Playing AWFUL Advance Wars Days of Ruin Maps With Ephraim225

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Playing AWFUL Advance Wars Days of Ruin Maps With Ephraim225
#advancewars #daysofruin #nintendo

[@Mangs1337]

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[@sturm2186]

Thank you for the feedback I would help make my advance wars game better its called advance wars the droid rising it will be made in unreal engine 5

[@caellanmurphy4751]

cmon mangs i keep telling you that JAPANESE SITE has a button that flips it over to english

[@justapassingbycommenterrem5642]

Yo Mangs, you got a discord or something? Or is it members only? Would love to chat with the behind the scenes peeps

[@dragonlord1507]

👍👍👍

[@bleakhorizon521]

Hi, as a somewhat competitve player, I'll clarify some things. The advance wars DoR by web is in english, you can change the language in the main page (there's a button written 'english' on it). Terrain stars work the same: 1 defense per star per HP. Defense works differently, you have to divide the damge by the defense, so for example Tabitha with her +80 defense, you have to divide the incoming damage by 1.8, instead of removing 80% of the incoming damage. For the meta, in the capture phase you usually see a mix of infantries and bikes, later on it's usually mech spam. As for the COs: - Tabitha is not actually that good (mid tier), because you can deny her CO charge. - Will is good, thanks to the prevalence of mech, that get the +2 mob from his CO power. - Brenner is up there with Isabella as one of the best CO in the game, thanks to his strong CO zone (3 range with a good boost). - Penny is weak but somewhat under rated I feel like. Her power lasts for 3 turns (yes, including rain), both sandstorm and rain are good while snow is less impactful. - Gage I don't really know since I never played against him, but should be very weak, only buffs indirects so very easy to play around, plus it's not going to be a lot of units and he doesn't get that strong of a boost or a big zone to compensate. Good video, would love to see more DoR, especially with good maps.

[@PaperMario]

Do you know what's the DoR website's called? I swore i found it one day and couldnt find it again since.

[@reddishgold3492]

@@PaperMario Tinywars

[@remixtheidiot5771]

I finally know how defense works for days of ruin! Thanks! Why isn't this info on the wiki?

[@revivalfromruins]

How good is Lin?

[@insertjokeh3r3]

@@PaperMario Make sure to look up tiny wars online and not tiny wars cause tiny wars is some browser gacha or something.

[@DeejusProductions]

Lol I love that map where the air units just win turn 1, like some crap a little kid tricks his older brother into playing so they can win

[@gogobrasil7185]

tbf the other side does have an anti-air and missiles, if they target the dusters, the fighters can't attack anyone

[@Buster_Scruggs]

@@gogobrasil7185 yeah absolutely, the maps in this game are not only fair, but they're fun! We should create them for global league with absolutely no QA process at all and rotate the boring maps like stalingrad, verdun, and scavenger that are too focused on equal symmetry and multi-front positions, because that stuff is getting old. There's even naval maps in Days of Ruin!

[@ThisismineIguess]

​@@Buster_Scruggs Yeah, symmetry is one thing but I think slightly modest deviations in maps could lead to a more robust strategy scene(especially with counterpicks or CO pick/ban pools, though AW games can last a long time on the web so hurfdurf,) although those arguing for pure symmetry pop a blood vessel at the thought most of the time. Even with all that, there's still no denying bog-standard nonsense is the fairest in the end, it's just... eh.

[@Purrfect_Werecat]

in fog of war though, with the assumption you havent seen the deployment yet, it would be different right?

[@zapdomanic]

Legendary guest introduction

[@lexif.8609]

Whenever I pick a map, "sufficiently terrible" is always the mark I'm aiming for.

[@cs0555]

22:45 This map legit looks like something Mangs would quickly put together as part of an unit showcase

[@gogobrasil7185]

When I asked for Days of Ruin content I wasn't expecting this

[@gogobrasil7185]

If you haven't played it, it's an amazing game. These pvp maps aren't representative! I'm sure they were thinking of like random ways to avoid the old traditional playstyle (which dual strike does better anyway). Some trial maps for example do avoid the old capture game, while having an interest concept, like the one where there are no bases and you're fighting the CPU in a fog-of-war match. You have to strategize a way to find them while keeping your only units alive

[@franciscodetonne4797]

DoR also has more interesting units and stronger units than DS counteparts.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

I find units leveling up to be addictive crack as well

[@paulandreotti1639]

1:09 Holy crap, that's the Advance Wars equivalent of a knife-fight in a phone booth.

[@SynergyGamingTV]

"The limitations for sending it online" Hilarious

[@christiaan1332]

4:13 This map is also in Dual Strike, one key difference is that there they DIDN'T forget the cities. Also legit for a brief 1 second at 6:05 they might show the worse one by far, just a plain empty box with whatever units are predeployed.

[@Buttplug6432]

It's also in Advance Wars 1 and 2 by the way.

[@mrlucasftw42]

I had an interesting map I built in Advanced Wars 1 - basically it was land only, with separated HQs (separated by water, so you couldn't cross). Basically the point was balancing attack and defense. You could blast the enemy off your island, but if you didn't maintain the initial foothold on their island, you wouldn't be able to win.

[@blahmaster6k]

That second map you showed at 2:00 is actually even worse. Red can capture blue's HQ and block the center, and there is literally nothing blue can do about it. edit: they played the map at the end and even though mangs tried his best to mess it up he still won by HQ cap lol.

[@fortunastreet]

Here is what happens when we left the dev's kids design the maps...

[@JuanMatteoReal]

I'm currently playing DoR Skirmishes. I can confirm horrible maps. Help me.

[@coolgabe555]

I remember people saying penny was good only because her units being unaffected by weather extending outside her co zone, her co meter charges quickly and the weather effect of her co power being spamable.

[@MenardiChan]

A big part of why penny is good is the fact that because of the spamable co power her command zone is basically the entire map - which means her boost applies to all her units kinda like in the "normal" aw games.

[@Buster_Scruggs]

@@MenardiChan yeah but then there's Tabitha, who just Cos an MD tank and starts one shotting enemy vehicles to build her zone up to 2, then never uses the COP and just steamrolls enemies over with her MD tank units that are stronger than WTs.

[@coolgabe555]

@@Buster_Scruggs Tabitha is actually weakened by her co zone being self only harder to charge her meter up do to a programming oversight which makes tabitha worse than she should be. Like I would argue Lin is better than her do to her co zone being bigger do to letting it charge faster.

[@monsterchief117]

@@Buster_Scruggs Tabitha is only decent in small maps in std early game, she is not at all good in any other type of matches. She'll never get her power and she's easily avoided and doesn't buff any other units. Her best use is getting on a bike and harassing caps by herself.

[@Buster_Scruggs]

@@monsterchief117 I've never played competitive Days of Ruin, in fact I didn't know there even was a scene for it, but 50% buffs just seem so incredibly broken I couldn't have imagined it, but I suppose the COP matters more than the strength of the buffs in this game. I'm so used to playing AWBW games that I see things like Javier having a 20% boost being a completely busted, game ending thing because he can just park an MD or a Neo on the Towers and you can't get them back from him, and Kanbei being completely banned from everything except casuals even with more expensive units just because of the 30% boost. This game is just very different from the advance wars that I'm used to.

[@Eira_99]

Days of Ruin was the first AW my friends and I ever played and we use to do Wi-Fi battles all the time, but the maps are so bad that they're easy to exploit and my friend was really good at finding optimal strats for them and just steam rolling us all the time. When we later got into Duel Strike he was the kind of guy who would play Hachi & Von Bolt.

[@remixtheidiot5771]

You either spam infantry or bike, pick a favorite. Since having too much variety in your capturing units means it's harder to do join caps.

[@PyrelordPazuzu]

1:51 Mangs you have no idea how much I appreciate not having opened my Coca-Cola can yet, I would have sprayed that shit all over the place after seeing that this map is serious 7:24 Now I'm glad I was done drinking by this point because WHAT IS THIS

[@gordonlekfors2708]

ok time to take it down a notch, buddy. I'll tuck you in if I have to. no more soda for you.

[@UmbreonMessiah]

"Asphalt Maze. This one looks *properly* shitty!" Mangs that's a map from AW2 🤣

[@Buttplug6432]

It's also in Advance Wars 1 by the way. Intelligence System has a very big habit of reusing a lot of their old maps. I think they been doing since Super Famicom Wars and that makes Famicom Wars the only game (not including Game Boy Wars because those were made by a different developer group.) the only title in this franchise to not have reused maps.

[@franbh94]

The 24:20 map "Heaven Island", the shape is the japanese kanji for Heaven (Tenshi), which is also used for Nintendo (as they said).

[@sigurdtheblue]

I thought tenshi meant angel and that character was "Ten". I put the Ten in Nintendo! Is what I have to say about it.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

I just think of Akuma shun go ku satsu

[@Midnight29517]

Caulder's theme really fits in with these maps.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

Ye

[@splnter648]

2:30 wait a minute, that’s a shogi board. Shogi is the Japanese cousin of chess btw

[@RicardoGonzalez-to7vb]

Best quote of the video "do you have anything worse?"

[@AFlyingTaco1]

Well, at the very least, Days of Ruin had a fantastic map editor to make up for the awful base game maps.

[@rngstratos7812]

There's no way the devs playtested these maps...LOL!

[@apocalypseofplush]

0:17 This is the most amazing thing I’ve ever heard. You’ve just made my day.

[@ImmaLittlePip]

Gage: A good soldier follows orders Clone wars fans: *PTSD*

[@toaster1400]

I absolutely love Days of Ruin so I'm glad you decided to make an episode with it! Would love to see more DoR videos in the future!

[@honokakousaka5742]

You guys are making me want to play DoR again :( Also I wish they made a new AW based off of DoR like the mechanics, units and CO's in that game instead of the remake but oh well.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

With how the remake went, this game was spared. But then again there were issues in making the remake anyway. So much potential. Someone needs to give it another shot.

[@RunicRhino22]

0:55 Sorry to inform you Mangs, but I was doing Jaegerbombs with them while designing the maps :D. Hope you enjoyed playing these maps 😂😂😂

[@justinnall7108]

This was really fun to watch! Came for the god awful maps, stayed for the really knowledgeable and funny commentary over bare-bones strategy PVP. I'd love to see more with you two.

[@boertje1998]

I love how the theme that plays when you load a map is as maddening as the maps itself.

[@DimitryViktorovich]

What I remember the most about the map design in this game is how much I HATED the Trial Maps in the campaign mode, the worst being the 4P maps like T15 - Jay Islands (prepare for the ridicuously long, absolutely NOT fun 50+ turn battle). But my personal worst, most hated trial map was the goddamn T7 - Tatter River - ground, non-infantry units are essentially useless, and the air units are almost completely useless as well, because your opponents LOVE to spam Anti-Airs every goddamn turn. P.S. Mangs, if you think the AC Rivals has the worst map design - you should DEFINITELY try both Jay Islands AND Tatter River during your Days of Ruin playthrough, because it's going to be at least 5 times (or so) worse than the AC Rivals.

[@strikerstratos]

I played both trial maps as well. Yes, I agreed, they are very tedious since the AI will act according to your moves, causing the map to take more than 50 turns to finish. However, at least you and the AI players start from on equal footing. Unlike like Rivals in which Eagle starts off with an advantage.

[@greg_mca]

Jay Islands was the last map I completed from the whole campaign because I hated it so much. It took D-Day levels of buildup before I could safely make a move on an enemy island and not get flung back. On the upside, once I'd toppled one enemy, my funds advantage was too high to overcome

[@strikerstratos]

@@greg_mca the last map I completed was web River, which I personally hate. At least Jay Islands you have Gage as a CO who works great for the map. Plus, I kinda like using naval units and the D-day type strategy needed in that map is my personal favorite. Web River has choke points that need to cleared with indirects and only infantry and mechs can cross rivers, but they cannot do anything meaningful until you get your attack force to distract the AI so that your foot soldiers can start capturing the properties, especially the factories, nearby.

[@greg_mca]

@@strikerstratos that took me so long and I had to brute force it so heavily to do so. I couldn't use infantry and mechs because of the tank spam and movement penalties, so I just relied on masses of rockets and heavy tanks. I enjoy amphibious maps and maps with lots of buildup because it makes things feel decisive when everything is unleashed. It's the grinding attritional battles I really hate

[@strikerstratos]

@@greg_mca that is why I like Jay Islands and Tatter River over Web River. Even if the AI will build Anti-Air in Tatter River, at least you can build a squadron of bombers to prepare for the assault. Plus, you play as Waylon, which I hate to admit, his CO zone and power are very good for that map.

[@drago77blu38]

Wow, I haven't heard Ephraim said anything about AW unbalance maps since his video about a decade ago. Yes, a DECADE ago!

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

As a big fan of DoR, if there's one thing I hope they incorporate into AWBW from DoR, it's the radar With FoW conditions, properties in DoR act as units with a vision range of 2, but radars count for 5 vision instead The big thing that makes the radar interesting in any context though is it provides income and defense, but no repairs, so it'd still have its place in standard/HF maps I made a map at one point that was meant to be a Campaign-style map (Vs. Penny with a constant sandstorm going), where 1 of the properties on the opposite side of a chokepoint in the central area is a radar, which can make maintaining a hold on that area a lot trickier with the easy-to-grab cities further back

[@JarrettWasTaken]

Mangs how in the hell did you get Chinese Kanbei to be in a video!? Absolutely insane!

[@Indignation211]

I'm pretty sure Cog Isle was in previous AW games too.

[@Buttplug6432]

They are. By the way, Intelligence System has a very big habit of reusing a lot of their old maps. I think they been doing since Super Famicom Wars and that makes Famicom Wars the only game (not including Game Boy Wars because those were made by a different developer group.) the only title in this franchise to not have reused maps.

[@KopperNeoman]

I get the feeling Tabitha's absurd power with her CO Zone is the reason why Dark Conflict's defence boosts are multiplicative. She doesn't have 90% defence to take 10 damage, she has 10%×10%×20%×50% defence to take 32.4% instead.

[@lagg1e]

The reason Tabitha's bonus is 50% is because they rebalanced defense. All her bonuses together are right about AW2 Kanbei.

[@extremmefan7305]

Barren Plains: *exists* Jake: ZAMN

[@larsschillings]

@2:30 It indeed looks like a chess board. but for me it more looks like shogi.

[@mercuryGMMF45P]

24:04 Indeed, map 17, 18 & 19 took each kanji from Nintendo 任天堂. When they were scrolling through, I could recognise from the map preview in the menu.

[@WillieDangerously]

Another thing to note is cities only have 2 stars in this game instead of the 3 in games prior.

[@heroesoftomorrow3488]

And forest provide 3 stars instead

[@corndog2780]

30:00 wow mangs, i thought you couldn't get any worse at advance wars😹

[@Heeroyuy05]

I couldn't stop laughing. Memes aren't dreams with this guy, he is meme incarnate!

[@RunicRhino22]

22:57 Ah, so it’s WW1 then xD

[@isenokami7810]

33:45 That was a very me move. Also, I think I have that exact bear somewhere.

[@chaseweber6823]

I can't believe cog Ile was put in reboot camp. I am sure the only reason it was included was because of this video, or they wanted a minimum number of maps from every non gb game included.

[@solsystem1342]

Mr. Bear likes the way you talk directly too him. Most people just ignore him and it makes him want them to go BOOM! He, he -Penny

[@sigurdtheblue]

The missile silo one is basically about baiting the enemy into hitting one unit who can tank the damage then return to a property and heal. Looks really bad even if you optimized it.

[@corndog2780]

this is actually surprisingly entertaining, Days of ruin pvp is underrated😗

[@Pine0wlple]

It is herald as the most balance and competitive AW, I can’t confirm myself, but I have noticed a lot more attention went into the units this game. Lol

[@jjmarr7130]

The Heaven Map is based on the Chinese/Japanese character for heaven, for what it's worth.

[@Gatitasecsii]

This was absolutely hilarious! The Plains map and Mangs doing a mangs made me howl with laughter.

[@Baladucci]

AWBW just added unit movement animations. They are actively trying to make the game better.

[@racer927]

6:37 Well if *anyone* should be familiar with clowns, it's Ephraim!

[@stephen4006]

BRUH I thought to myself that Ephraim looks like Chinese Kanbei, but didn’t want to say it out loud 😂 hearing Mangs say it made me laugh my ass off!

[@jeremymiller3305]

Yeah do a series of awful map days of ruins matches with Ephraim225!! i had a ton of laughs Mangs shooting himself with the missile with chinese Kambei being attached to Mr.Bear! Oh shit I haven't laughed my ass off in a while! God that map with 1 base each is the one you should play! Anyway I enjoyed this video! Please Mangs take my advice, make more of Days Of Ruins matches like this!!

[@Purrfect_Werecat]

i remember the tiny maps for online

[@mrsupa444]

8 bridge island is actually stalemate plated correctly up into the mid-late game. Actually, Player 2 advantage if red isn’t careful like you guys. Attacking straight in loses your dusters then the antique prevents your marines from getting a factory

[@DanBottiglieri]

More Advance Wars Days of Ruin and more Ephraim225 collabs please Mangs, this was great!

[@D_Abellus]

To be fair with the map designers for Cog Isle. Its in AW2. I know because I had a very dumb game on it one time as Sturm. Its still a bad map for competitive play, but the one in Days of Ruin was likely a port over job. The others in the beginning were way worse because at least there is some strategic play on Cog Isle in order to not get mech/infantry rushed over the mountains.

[@D_Abellus]

@@Buttplug6432 I'm less experienced in AW 1 and Famicon wars so that is good to know thanks.

[@David-jx4gw]

@@Buttplug6432 you have a habit of repeating comments.

[@Buttplug6432]

@@David-jx4gw To be truly honest I've haven't watched any of the stuff lately so thank you for reminding me that there was a comment of mind that was still here Than you for telling me this and your insight.

[@madquack6449]

30:00 friendly fire is on!!!

[@robotsturm6488]

30:01 biggest mistakes of the match

[@renanmarcilio4677]

I'd love to see more DoR PvP with Chinese Kanbei! Maybe that'd be a nice stream in the future? Also, since a lot of people here at talking about the DoR by Web having an English option, we could see some action there as well, Mangs?

[@adept7497]

Yeah I remember that 10x10 thing, urgh....

[@ChesterRico]

Tiny Wars is totally playable, it's AWBW for DoR.

[@DoktorVicTim]

Man, good old Ephrain225. I remember watching hi Dual Strike LP and I've fond memories of all of those annotations. Thanks for removing them, KZbin... -_- My favourite was probably "BROKEN CRASH"

[@bernizubi5217]

This is gonna happen again in the reboot.

[@BBHood217]

There's a remake of Deep Defense in AWBW. Just an idea for the next AWBW stream.

[@Purrfect_Werecat]

i do feel like most of the maps were meant for fog of war but that doesnt excuse most of these too lol

[@Dripularstein]

Yknow I'm glad that I'm not the only one who played this game

[@soulhoney1227]

7:49 perfect map for a forrest CO :)

[@alfredkingofwessex]

Hey soul honey

[@soulhoney1227]

@@alfredkingofwessex hi alfred changed your profile picture i see

[@soulhoney1227]

@@alfredkingofwessex hello alfred

[@alfredkingofwessex]

@@soulhoney1227 hi yeah I’m streaming on Saturday

[@soulhoney1227]

@@alfredkingofwessex perfect

[@dorpth]

I've always thought Days of Ruin had the best unit balance of the series. And the worst EVERYTHING else.

[@michaeljonathan9715]

Still better than Wargroove's Pikemen stallly META.

[@KDill893]

Days of Ruin is such a good game, very underrated

[@subbie-eye]

This is an interesting video. Looking forward to more of this!

[@EmperorKarino]

im glad you are doing a days or ruin video. i hope you do more in the future.

[@SeaSlug]

You can play on wifi on a computer emulator with the melon ds Emulator. Then you can both have your own screen for fog of war

[@The24thWight]

This was cool! I'd love to see more.

[@ManaNek]

Not what I was expecting (a Days of Ruin video) but entertaining nonetheless

[@tiotharius]

The thing is, using Tabitha's power is actually somewhat viable. Sure, on your next turn you'll go back to having a single-unit co zone, but in exchange you'll get a Meteor Strike and ALL of your units get the 50% attack and defense boost. A lot of people forget that using your co power grants you a global co zone for that turn, though I can forgive Mangs for being inexperienced with Days of Ruin.

[@nablahnjr.6728]

the first days of ruin map i played in pvp actually is barren plains

[@andarus2798]

Deep Defense is such an interesting map though! I say this having beaten it as both Red and Blue.

[@johntrains1317]

I'd really love some more attention to this game if possible. It's my favorite one of the series. Thanks for the content!

[@Shanebomb11]

Bad or good maps, I would love more DoR content. After trying TinyWars myself, the competitive is worth playing.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Id love to see more of this

[@M30W3R]

Ephraim and Mangs play horrible AWBW maps, come on you know we want it

[@kazekamiha]

DoR Dev 1: We need war room maps, but we have no one to make them! What do we do!? DoR Dev 2: I have a monkey that works for bananas. DoR Dev 1: Perfect!

[@hadoukenfighter]

five minutes in and i am laughing my ass off at these maps.

[@smellyfishstiks]

MR beat showed up and I was happy.

[@charlessamuelpenn9374]

Alright alright...I haven't even bought this yet...I was looking for good DS reviews...seeing you guys play is a start.

[@shinyrayquaza9]

I want to say, played dor two momths ago, honestly surprised with how good it was. I expected it to be trash. Sidenote: The music is amazing, atleast listen to those "Were they drinking when they made these?" Also devs: buffed battleship, antitank, caulder, isabelle...etc

[@theedwardian]

"Whoever moves to the center first , loses" it's more of a philosophical statement than a game design. I have a feeling the developer in charge of the wi-fi maps was really phoning it in. They made those 70 maps in a couple hours, you can see his mental state deteriorating by the time he created Clown Island.

[@soulhoney1227]

I think the devs got very lazy while making the map they're like: Devs: let's add a couple of poorly place bases; and then add a couple of moutains then done new map :)

[@Buttplug6432]

It also doesn't help that they reused a lot of their old maps. by the way, Intelligence System has a very big habit of reusing a lot of their old maps. I think they been doing since Super Famicom Wars and that makes Famicom Wars the only game (not including Game Boy Wars because those were made by a different developer group.) the only title in this franchise to not have reused maps.

[@paires0]

I hope if this is going to be a series

[@yenmeng]

Tabitha gaming moment

[@inversepie6512]

Play all the DoR maps! This was hilarious!

[@splnter648]

2:25 wait a minute, that’s a shogi board not a chess board!

[@sigurdtheblue]

These maps are really inspiring as someone who has not created a map before. With some changes, these maps could be great fun, at least to me. If only 1 + 2 would have bikes.

[@alex_the_fiction]

Oh wow i never knew what ephriam looked like

[@gamermanzeake]

Absolutely need more Days of Ruin in my life.

[@masterkanbei9132]

More horrible maps!!! enough of all of these competitive plays hahahaha

[@thomasnguyen4427]

Oh shit Cog Isle was the OG shit for me!