Playing F-4J the way God Intended | War Thunder Pack Giveaway

[@seekerpro486]

The missile bug isn’t just with radar missiles, but ir too. They messed it up somehow when they were tampering with the losat somehow.

[@kiki7170]

It takes them like a year to fix real shattered. (starts with AN/M3s) When they first change ATGM/SAM, the missile starts wobbling sometimes. They take half a year or so to realize that and fix it only to create a new bug that absolutely ruin AAMs. How long will it take to fix the missiles this time?

[@coolboyeagle9281]

What about for phoenix missiles?

[@seekerpro486]

@@kiki7170 well right now it may be them shadow nerfing missiles to make the new ones better without making something extremely overpowered. They’ve done it before. 🤔

[@kiki7170]

@@seekerpro486 Not really. Its a bug you can see the replay and find the server one's missile is not going anywhere near as the missile traveling in your local gameplay. Just a bug.

[@kiki7170]

@@coolboyeagle9281 Not sure. Since the RWR changes I gave up taking those and tbh, I don't think I will track the missile anyway so I would not know it does not kill when it should. However, I think it would also be affected by this bug.

[@viniciusg.lourenco1175]

2:59 "11.3 is a terrible... terrible... terrible matchmaker" 2024: F4J is moved to 12.0

[@standalonecomplex2195]

yeah....

[@robertgaudet7407]

Still not as woebegone as the F-4C at 10.7. And it’s not like every other jet didn’t also move up .7. Except the F104s stayed put.

[@tty4393]

11.3 match maker is quite harsh at this moment with so many uptiers; the performance gap is just so great with both improved weaponry and improved airframes, hope decompression comes soon

[@alucidrust]

10.7 is just so perfect though, such a fun tier to play, currently grinding Israel in my Kfir Canard and having a blast.

[@kingghidorah8106]

the f-4j is a huge step down in flight performance, the only 11.3's that are actually great are the mig23s while the other 11.3s are either stuck, barely better than their prior aircraft or worse.

[@truphot1]

​@@alucidrusti have ~400 matches with the canard and its one or the best premiums and fun planes to fly Got to the netz in 11 days with around ~240 matches

[@alucidrust]

@@truphot1 yeah it’s heaps good, I’m basically fully done with Israel ground and air and it took 10ish days. Another 3 and I’ll have everything

[@blacksky121_]

Congrats on 10k, Lee! And yea, that missile bug is infuriating. I had so many easy kills taken from my grasp and all i got was a slap to the face

[@mar7774]

A little correction: The Mk12 gunpod was in service, however was ahkstually not an "experimental" thing aboard naval phantoms as mentioned in the intro. While the Navy did opt against the usage of gunpods on its Phantoms, it *was* used extensively by Marine Corps Phantoms and even then, primarily for CAS loadouts.

[@Apollo_1641]

Oh man! Navy LARP is the best. All the way from Buffalo to Tomcat. (The F/A-18 can't come soon enough) It's a pity there aren't more naval maps with carriers on them. Anyways, congrats with 10k!

[@GeneralLee2000]

I want carriers back (so long as they have their AA disabled)

[@BohemianCloud35]

I just love how they updated the carrier models in the New Power update back in 2020, then REMOVED all carrier maps from the game.

[@pieisawesome2204]

I was in that first game where you crashed, funny to see myself in chat haha. Great vid man, I tried to play the F-4J while grinding for the tomcat and just couldn’t get into it, maybe I’ll give it another go eventually.

[@Philodendron0]

Congratulations on 10k subscribers Lee! Ive been watching since 7k and its nice to see you already almost at 11.

[@ALonelyCorsair]

Happy 10k! I personally love this plane-i do usually run gunpod and 5 aim 7f with 2 aim 9g as personal preference but yeah! Oh btw i saw you filming this plane in game :D Also, the plane has a stupid problem...the flares fire up! making it hard to do anything to make the missile follow the flares

[@MajorAndersonM]

Congrats on 10k Lee, Been with Seek and Joib for a while, then you, and Perennial E and now Jaek

[@user-Xx0xxxxx]

congrats on 10k, ya make very solid videos

[@humanshark9828]

what a coincidence, literally yesterday I sent you a clip of me playing the F-4J hahaha, good games Lee, you always bring very good and informative content, you help me a lot to understand which planes are good or bad depending on the scenario. Cheers mate

[@micperson8651]

I was playing my Mig29, i just got my r27er's and i wanted to use them but they just didn't work i didn't know what was going on. thanks for shedding some light.

[@conmanmedia1739]

Yeah I’ve just took a break from top tier for a little bit because the missile bug was affecting me so much

[@SilentButDudley]

Yeah all automatic and radar missiles are messed up it seems. Both ground IR based missiles like stingers and air to air missiles are all not tracking properly as well as having their proxy not work.

[@F104Gaming]

Man well done, you really deserve the 10k, Always enjoyed the content :)

[@GeneralLee2000]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@severestar200]

As someone who doesn't bring the gunpod on the f4j, fg1, and fgr2, it can still hold itself in matches, but with f14,16, and mig29 it can get tough sometimes

[@henryatkinson1479]

Congrats again on 10k! And yeah, 11.3 is rough right now, MiG-23s aren't a ton of fun at the moment, from my personal observation.

[@markotc]

Congrats on 10K! I honestly thought I was the only one experiencing the missile bug.

[@Mister_M_YT]

Congrats on 10k! I talismanned this plane a bit ago and, in my experience, it can be very hit and miss but I do love playing it.

[@lajus-debattheo1745]

i can see you try and pull in for thea headon at 1:13. and congrats for the 10K

[@MrSuperkiller3d]

Hell yeah good job with reaching 10k ! Warthunder Jets need more love

[@OvercastCoob]

Ey nice, 10k been a lil' while coming! And honestly, no matter their spot in the meta, the Phantoms are still gorgeous imo

[@agiliteka]

I've been finding the bug with my Lightning's Red Tops, as well, always just put it down to firiing from too far out, or the missile having to maneuver too much and not reaching the target. On second thought, the British missiles have pretty big proxy fuses tho.

[@danielzaba9913]

Congratz duud.

[@bouncyseal8675]

Nice one on reaching the 10k chief. Considering the missile bug i noticed it too and i have had it happen with other missiles as well such as the R27R *not the ER* and the Aim-7-E2 and of course as you showed in the vid the Aim-7F as well and its absolutely infuriating, hope they fix it sooner rather then later.

[@thecanadianprinz1840]

Congratulations on the 10k subs! They way you explain actions in game “chef kiss” helps with ppl like me that need that extra help. I did the same thing in my videos but it quickly got to overwhelming for me! Glad to see it’s working for you! Keep up the good work

[@GeneralLee2000]

Glad to help! I'll do my best!

[@nymeric5833]

Congrats on 10k. The phantom is such a goofy plan in this matchmaker but there is just something fun about it, idk what though.

[@JP2000WarGamingandFun]

Congrats on your 10k! Let's keep growing :)

[@andreinedi1563]

Really the only ARB youtubers I enjoy watching every time. Just personal preference, I like the way you talk and present the info to make your points and how you align the script with the gameplay. You deserve the 10K and I hope your following keeps growing.

[@veprstreak3041]

Congrats on 10K, I’m not even close to high tier jets, so it’s always nice seeing what the “other side” looks like lol

[@forseir]

Congrats on 10k, that’s a massive milestone! The F-4s in general are a little of an interesting airframe from my experience (of only fighting them, I’m yet to grind out any tree that has one)

[@christopherfallout4552]

congrats on 10k, it wasn't long ago you were at half of that. on a side note. i just got the f4j like 2 days ago, i played 3 matches and cried myself to sleep.

[@Sidestrafe2462]

Missile bug is exceptionally awful feeling in sim, you fire a missile and when nothing happens after a little bit you can't even press U to see if the missile is still around or not.

[@dasheroo4979]

Congrats on reaching 10k! its a big milestone for ur channel.

[@bobbrown5737]

Congrats on the 10k!! I really wish WT gave you ground kills. you defiantly completed the challenge. btw that was a cool idea for a video really enjoyed it.

[@coloneljason9094]

Congrats on ten thousand subscriebers man,its been a long journey. Also F-4J is my most played Phantom ever since I've grindied both F-16s with it upon Apex Predator update,its the most tough looking plane ever built.

[@cease_requiem6034]

the close up 9G shots were really something in this video. shotgunning people is very funny

[@Evrimomono]

What's more frustrating is that the bug seems to occur mostly when people are flying straight AFK style lmao. And unironically those are the shots that missiles should connect

[@kubo7]

The missile not hitting is caused by proxg fuze bug, also Congrats for 10k subs and keep up the work!

[@ancientgrandpa.1]

Dude I tried playing 11.3 and the matchmaker is so miserable, the power creep and br compression is so bad, 11.3 vehicles feel like they stand absolutely no chance against 12.3s which just is not a fun experience by any stretch of the imagination. It was so bad I just gave up after a couple games lol. Also huge congrats on 10k!!!

[@jpppe]

I've never played the f4j but I've played the F4e, and it was kind of painful tbh. That was back when 12.0 was the max br, so I guess it might be a little better, I haven't tried it out yet though. Being the F4j is at 11.3 that means it faces top tier ofc where everything is better then you so it takes some skill to play it. Also, congrats on 10k.

[@justmonika4340]

Congrats on a very deserved 10k! The phantom has always been my favourite plane and it hurts to see the matchmaker the way it is right now

[@Disgustipation778]

Congratulations on 10k. Keep up the good work!

[@Starwarsfan-zl4eg]

Nice Video, didn't knew that Navy Phantoms carried no guns wich is interesting when you look at what happened in Vietnam I am hyped to finally get my hands on the Starfighter

[@YogaGott187]

Congrats on 10k and i have been thinking of buying the F4 for some time now so great review.

[@cat-nl4sv]

I do enjoy these challenge type videos a bit more, but your content is great regardless, Congrats on 10k, you earned it!

[@Jimmywolf8535]

Congratulations on 10K, keep making good content be here right with ya

[@GraveDeath101]

Im glad to hear the missile bug is a thing, i thought i was losing my mind on my new tornado f3 when the supertemps felt like crap

[@markjackson7650]

This video was what i needed to see, i juat unlocked the the f4j and i have genuinely never suffered so much in war thunder

[@opar6585]

I absolutely unexpectedly SLAPPIN in F4J when it first got HMD to grind the newly released F14A at the time. Kinda sad it sucks now because of bad matchmaking, like P 51 H. The missile bug is what preventing me to finish spading F16C, luckily i already done all performance and missile upgrades tho. Anyway, congrats for reaching 10k subs!

[@AtharvaBhingarkar]

Congratulations on the 10k mate. Been following you for a while now and always a pleasure to watch your videos.

[@AllHailMerp-DBMusician]

I recently spaded my F-4J and yeah the matchmaker for it is so bad, f-16s like 95 percent of games. Great vid

[@wimhamelink2683]

grats on 10k Love this channel it covers my beloved t2 and other Japanese planes ;-)

[@DaMuffinman5000]

Lee with banger content as always. Congrats on 10K!

[@b1rell4987]

Congratulations on 10k! Yep, the radar missiles are pain to use right now they are missing like 60% of time... Hopefully they will fix it soon.

[@LeAoZiM024]

congrats on the 10K lee, keep up these good videos!

[@RamTengri]

Thanks for all the tutorial videos lee! I recently got back into warthunder with the economy changes and the cold war jets is a different ball game entirely!!! Would love to get my hands on a TierVII to grind out the tech trees!

[@thehigherman9918]

Congrats on the 10K, won't take long to reach 100k for sure!

[@joeses4162]

Good to see you reach 10k, been watching since the first thousand or so

[@JohnnhoJ-o]

Congrats on the 10k! (you're probably tired of seeing so many of thoses alredy) But in all honstly your reviews and even gameplays are very informative and intresting to see, keep it up!

[@TigerOwO]

Congrats on 10k! The concerns I have with the F4S are that 1, it needs to carry a gun pod that adds drag significantly 2, it is 11.3 in RB so yes F-16 and Mig is there almost every single match Other than that it is a good plane.

[@pilot2076]

congratulation on 10k Lee, watching your videos made me switch to air RB from AB :)

[@mikoajnowacki5516]

Well done Mr General on the 10k! Sad thing is that you have to "larp" something in a game that *was* dedicated to bringing up realism in it's battles (you probably remember those times when ground RB were very similar to what we see in tank battles in Squad for example). But after all I still believe in Gaijin, I don't know many developers who keep in touch with their player base as close as them.

[@aerais]

Congrats on 10K I run into the same issues with the radar missiles, Isn't it great when your primary weapon don't work?

[@techromancer1576]

Congrats on 10k love the gameplay and tips

[@kiki7170]

Congrats on 10K! Right now the missile bug is some server/host issues that the server think the missile is way off so it would not trigger the proxy. Probably due to some PL or lag of transmission, the missile on the server would overcorrect its path. I have watched like 5 replays from local saved replay and server replay and find this is just the thing going wrong. BTW, F4J is getting the RWR (actually RHAW) same as F-14A I think, improving some kind of situational awareness.

[@kiki7170]

Overcorrect is like the missile should pull 25G at 0'00'', 20G at 0'10'', 0G at 0'20'' and hit for example. The local would seem normal just as the missile follows the path it should be following, the server side is like 25G at 0'00'', 20G at 0'11'', 0G at 0'21''(1G at 0'20''). And those late on reaction you will know the missile just overshoot the target and misses. And this is just guiding towards a straight target. If the missile needs to turn multiple times, the error might get even bigger.

[@Showtek1011]

It isn't radar missiles only its happening with IR too, i've had a few situations where 9m just fly through planes in side aspect.

[@kiki7170]

@@Showtek1011 Oh, I see. Maybe some of my IR also miss but I won't track it everytime so not aware of it, lmao.

[@GeneralLee2000]

That's good to know in that case, thank you!

[@HawkTheRed]

As someone who used and spaded the FGR.2, don't take less then maximum fuel unless you have zero confidence in your chances of survival. The F-4 isn't the most hungry beast, but I have found myself dangerously low on fuel multiple times, even ran out once, even when I do take maximum. On EC maps, I do replace the gun with a fuel tank because by the time the fighting starts, I've already eaten a few minutes of my fuel and can't engage for long.

[@jakeogroton]

The HMD with pulse and 7F is so good especially on the deck is mint and it's a shame you don't see it anywhere else. Getting ridiculous off boresight shots while flying nearly perpendicular to an approaching aircraft feels great

[@Astroneero]

The F4S Is very similiar to the F4J with it's missiles, however the F4S gets the agile eagle, yet that's still not enough to make it suffern't at 12.0

[@ajohn2243]

Congrats on 10k, on the road to 20k

[@Boltcult]

i love this jet still though idk why, also you deserve that 10k brother!

[@V3ct0r_24]

Love the work lee! Hope the bug gets fixed soon

[@chriscoones377]

Congrats on the 10k subs! Keep it up!!

[@haavi132]

Congratulations on the 10k, with quality videos like you make you're headed for 20k

[@GeneralLee2000]

Thanks a ton!

[@Hadgerz]

11.3 with no gunpod in an f4 without slats sounds like a great way to have a bad time, but can't deny it's satisfying when those 7Fs connect. Biggest problem since they fixed RWRs is that there's no J band warning, meaning with the flogger spam in sim, it's gonna be rough. I stuck with using the F5E to grind rank 7 and most of 8 personally

[@gerardmodica5693]

congrats on 10k keep up the work

[@KnightofDark00180]

Just recently grinded this mess of a plane and got into a F-14A. It's nuts how odd the AIM7f's have been muddled by changes to other vehicles. lol

[@Scart2001]

Congratz on the 10k!

[@Andkin98]

Congrats on 10k! I just finished spading the F-4J and it was my first introduction to top tier. Kinda rough.

[@GeneralLee2000]

Yeah... feelsbadman

[@kurnass2000]

Oh my god, i agree, the missles are broken so badly, my AIM9LS started to be able to dodged, they dont detonate or they somehow dont destroy the target the target. Some mig-19 dodged my aim9l without flares or rockets, there was 0 sun it was a rear aspect and we were both flying at mach 0.8, it was a 1.2mile rear aspect shot and he started evasive manuevers and it went right past. Then My AIM7F just sometimes doesnt track at all, i shot a perfect head on shot from 7 miles and my missle tracked my teammate flying away while i was locking the enemy.

[@nickq4398]

Great video on the F4J, one of my favorites in high tier!

[@botondkertesz8974]

I loved playing the phantom when I unlocked it but the matchmaker really ruined the experience for me as well

[@BBB-pk7cm]

I honestly love the fuse bug, the amount of times I’ve just not died when I should’ve is great

[@stormjet814]

hey congrats on 10k man! love your content and chilling with you on doof

[@GeneralLee2000]

Appreciate it! Doof is... enjoyers lol

[@emilw9690]

I mean I'm not against missiles sometimes failing to reach/kill their targets, but the probability of that happening is currently waaaay to high. Of course given a solid radar lock etc. Completely agree that they need to decrease that, but a solid lock should still not be a 100% guaranteed kill, but maybe like 90-95% :)

[@jerryjuutalainen1783]

Glad to see the game isn't crashing just for me this update and ye that's the only correct way to play navy/C phantoms NO GUN

[@Loxigshsbki]

Congratulations on 10k!

[@D4NY0NL1N3]

10k is just a milestone get ready for the next phase brother

[@Seagull_on_a_Lamp]

Great video and congrats on 11K

[@ModernTimesYT]

Congrats on the 10K Lee. Super excited about your future content. I just made my way to rank 7. I am researching the F-5E right now 😊

[@pelot3167]

Non gun phantom, true Vietnam experience 😅

[@MrAsalic]

Congrats on the 10k, I love your video =)

[@damonkeywithdrip660]

Congrats on 10.000 Subs!

[@Timothyyyy.photog]

Nice vid man, also have been having the same missile bug while flying in WT.

[@someguy2393]

You and joob singlehandedly got me back into air rb...keep up the great content!

[@GeneralLee2000]

Awesome! Thank you so much!

[@4fter777]

The fact that the F4J has the flight performance of an F4C at 11.3 is crazy

[@HerrKiryu]

Yep, missiles have been pretty wonky recently, specially the R-24R’s that sometimes have a stroke and go into the floor.

[@colibri2025]

When I was grinding us tree I thought I'd like the f4j because I think phantoms are cool... but man the matchmaker hit me like a truck because I just kept facing f16s and mig29s so I just hate it now. However it is fun seeing the occasional f4 video on youtubers like you.

[@No1harris_98]

This is honestly a very cool video concept