Playing Gottlieb's 1988 "Bad Girls" System 80B Pinball Machines - Yes, They're Twins!

[@LyonsArcade]

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[@HebaruSan]

This channel has introduced me to the concept of trying to play a pinball machine strategically. I always just tried not to miss the ball and watched random stuff happen. Then the ball would fall through between the flippers or one of those side gaps and I'd go play something else. Maybe I was too young.

[@LyonsArcade]

Yup, that's the next level is actually trying to shoot for stuff, I'm not all that great at it but some of the games have really deep rules after you play awhile that you start picking up on!

[@jasonshouseoffunandvideoga7169]

Those pinball machines are awesome! The sounds, lights and that volume. It reminds me a stereo system my mom had in the 70's that was also an 8 track player. Machines these days, pinball or other are missing that. Maybe something in the decimals that's regulated or something. You did a great job with cleaning them both up. Not going to lie, I'm glad I found your channel.

[@LyonsArcade]

Awww, thanks Jason. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, we appreciate you watching!

[@williamgregory5011]

I like the pinball machines that do something. Like little figures moving when you make a shot. These bore me easily

[@TheKurtsPlaceChannel]

Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.

[@TheHeadlessHorseman]

For some reason I have spent over 2 hours trying to find anything I can about the back glass and where it was shot at or who was in it. Basically I am in the same place I was before I started. The only real clues are the Exit Chicago jackets which is/was a punk rock bar in Chicago located on Wells street. There is few to little photos of the interior of the place. So its very possible it was shot inside the bar but only someone who was there when it was on wells street could attest to it. The bar was shut down in early 90's and then reopened at a different location which is where it stands today. Of course its possible it was shot in a different bar other then Exit but kinda strange that they clearly wanted that name showcased because several people are wearing it.

[@LyonsArcade]

Only info I can give you is that it's common knowledge that a lot of times the people in the Gottlieb photo backglasses like this one, were people who either worked for or were involved with the company, they usually didn't hire models... if you go find our "Rock" game for instance on here in the replies the guy who did the music or part of it says he was in the photo and identifies who he was. Another thing is some of the people who were involved with the games back then are online and easily accessible, so if you look up the designers etc. on ipdb.org you can probably contact them and ask them if they remember the photo shoot....

[@TheHeadlessHorseman]

@@LyonsArcade constantino Mitchell was responsible for the artwork. I cannot find much on him except for the games he designed. Jon Norris was the programmer and I think he is more reachable but not sure. I might make a post on pinside seeing if anyone has any connections to this. The m1 seen at the top of that beam on thr translight may be a clue.

[@nicole_local]

Got to say, I'm glad I'm nowhere near your store-- or I'd be trying to figure out a way to fit one of these into my third-story apartment...

[@LyonsArcade]

We understand :)

[@kjemradio]

As a pre teen in 1988 these games look fanstastic. Though they do have a more 1983 DEVO vibe, and definitely fit that whole Euro look that was big in that time. Indeed the 80s was unique, and we can never replicate that time. If you didn't experience the 80s, then you have no idea what it was all about. It was totally to the max and ultra cool!

[@LyonsArcade]

We have exactly 1 customer, who still uses the word "Radical" when he comes in :) It was just an interesting time...

[@kjemradio]

@@LyonsArcade Yeah wasn't that Milhouse? LOL. I totally agree. The 80s is really like no other time in my book. This is why I enjoy your channel, because I get to see the arcades/pinball games of my youth!

[@MM1717mm]

youre doing the lord’s work 😁🍺

[@LyonsArcade]

Aw, thanks Mark Mark.

[@jussikuusela7345]

Is the synth chip a proprietary one or one of the common stuff by Roland or Yamaha etc?

[@LyonsArcade]

I don’t know the specifics but I know it wasn’t proprietary... in the manual I believe it has schematics.

[@douro20]

@@LyonsArcade YM2151. An MP7528 DAC is used for the digitized sounds.

[@_gnarhess]

Would you still have either for sale? I’m looking to add one to our line up out here in Santa Cruz, CA

[@danvanvoorst7329]

Love those pinball!

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks Dan, we appreciate you watching as always!

[@TheDannyGTV]

Really cool stuff! Where did you buy the light bulbs for the Clean Sweep repair from your April video?

[@LyonsArcade]

www.CompetitiveProducts.com

[@TheDannyGTV]

@@LyonsArcade thank you!

[@demofilm]

those machines are both great. again ! they say no pinball machine is the same , do you feel tiny differences between the 2 girls? and the looks with those mirrors must “reflect “ the future for that time .

[@LyonsArcade]

Yes they're a little bit different but definitely twins :)

[@coinopsteve2334]

Nice collection of trans lights do you have the rescue 911 and class of 1812

[@LyonsArcade]

I don't have either one of those unfortunately! Thank you for watching Coinop Steve!

[@coinopsteve2334]

@@LyonsArcade soon you will have those I own the leftovers of NOS from the factory when they went out I will send you one of each

[@SamuliTuomola_stt]

34:44 used to think that weird movement you can see after it hits the right hand flipper has to have something to do with the magnetic field of the coil, but I guess it's just backspin in a fast moving ball

[@LyonsArcade]

That is weird but yes I think i'ts just backspin. On SOME games the inserts are raised or lowered which affects the ball slightly sometimes....

[@russellgibson3070]

Why does bad girls 1 drop targets reset differently then bad girls 2 after ball drains? Bg2 resets targets after drain but doesn't drop the targets that were already hit prior to ball drain where as bg1 does.

[@LyonsArcade]

It's a setting in the software, you can make it carry over the drops that were already dropped or make them reset after each ball. One machine is set one way the other the other way....

[@russellgibson3070]

@@LyonsArcade okay thanks for responding back. Wish I was closer to ya ,since now I wanna add this pin to my collection lol awesome machine and great work as always sir

[@MichaelAStanhope]

Say what you will about Gottlieb System 80 machines, but the System 80B machines had some of the best music pinball offered in the 80's!

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah I agree. Really cool synth sounds, good stuff!

[@danijelcar5184]

Nice works perfect 😎👍

[@LyonsArcade]

Thanks for watching Danijel :)

[@gilbertgottlieb1274]

I miss my Hollywood heat =( Cool show man!

[@LyonsArcade]

I haven't had one of those yet but most of the Gottliebs are pretty interesting, some of my favorites!

[@gilbertgottlieb1274]

@@LyonsArcade I think night moves has the best gottlieb music... but all the 80b games had sweet, sweet music! I like this bad girls game. Never seen so much "chrome" on pin (plastic chrome! Lol)

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah it's pretty crazy. I need to get a Night Moves in to check it out Gilbert!

[@MaxellAdGuy]

I wish they had made an “Escape From New York” theme pinball

[@LyonsArcade]

Yup that would have been great!

[@cnfuzz]

@@LyonsArcade Porky's pinball

[@thomasmickle7289]

For me, it's the flippers that I can't get over on the Gottliebs.

[@theguy3112]

I think they are the best. Heavy mechanical feel, unlike electrocapacitive switches.

[@thomasmickle7289]

@@theguy3112 its the travel that turns me off. You can trap up from an insane, which makes it much too easy.

[@scottbrady7499]

songlist of that timezone always got me. bangles had "eternal flame." ..forget about "travelling wilberries," milking it on mtv. george harrison AND jeff lynne riding the coat tails of a late fifties artist: roy orbison?? benjamin orr of the cars, AND lou gramm of foreigner, sell-out for the BUX, and go easy-listening! now, in the 2010's and 2020's, "dead malls" are the rage on KZbin. ..in 1988-1989, ACTUAL new malls were the rage, and Tiffany and Debbie Gibson music reigned supreme out of the ceiling in a million and one "forever 21's." ..dont forget "pass the dutchie on the left hand" side by the "criss cross." ..some clever youngsters who wore blue jeans on themselves, in REVERSE direction. [honerable mention goes to phil collins for the eternal]: "something in the air tonite," michelob advertisement for anhauser-busch, that eric clapton chimed in on for a few BUX. .. [he relied on a traditional: after midnite.] all of these artists made SO much more than they HAD been making- and "girlz just wanna have fun," as well as "papa don't preach," don't count for much- unless you include "when i think of you," by michael's little sister. damn, a vacuum of lasting entertainment! just that, for the moment- they seemed SO compelling and authentic...

[@SamuliTuomola_stt]

8:40 hahah yes, the more you look at it it starts to look like a neoclassical painting

[@LyonsArcade]

Top notch stuff!

[@SamuliTuomola_stt]

put them in a garden playing croquet in some frilly dresses and nobody would know the difference

[@ld3640]

The first song sounds like a knock off of Bob Seger's Shakedown from Beverly Hills 2 ?? 🤔

[@LyonsArcade]

I can hear it!

[@neilh2669]

Did you really Rickroll us in the video entry? Lol

[@chrismayer3919]

8-BALL DELUXE! 'Quit talkin' an' start chalkin'

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah, that's a hell of a catch phrase they came up with there!

[@adambaker5729]

Lol, bartender almost looks like Michael Bolton

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah I didn't notice that, ha!

[@mrhands6949]

8-ball delux reversed, and merged with black hole?

[@LyonsArcade]

It's got that window like Black hole and a few other ones, but you can't do anything down there it just has a few lights that light up.

[@pandaking6822]

Would show up good under a blacklight

[@lincolncwynar1547]

Around 26:40 you definitely hear Micheal Jackson music.

[@katilynnschwab2485]

Joe classic arcade turns off the lights

[@johnchitwood3328]

Are you one has PlayStation 2 memorycard

[@markt6199]

HaHa. That music made me want to play Duke Nukem!

[@LyonsArcade]

A real classic!

[@Wildfire86872]

Sounds a lot like the type of music the Sega Genesis games use.

[@melanatedprose9134]

Your decision to use some leds with the regular lights seems like a good choice. But the music...ugh!!!!!!!!

[@LyonsArcade]

That's the best part!

[@HebaruSan]

I think the music steals from Robert Palmer more than Michael Jackson. Especially the bassline, sounds a lot like "Simply Irresistible."

[@LyonsArcade]

Yeah I don't really hear the Michael Jackson vibe, BUT, the title is definitely a rip off of the "Bad" album.

[@Wildfire86872]

it makes me think of Neutron Dance by the Pointer Sisters when I hear it

[@cnfuzz]

@@Wildfire86872 Kenny loggins mixed with hair rock and a 'hey' sample for the rap part, when multiball hits the clavinet part is defenitly Michael Jackson pulling Neverland stunts