Playing Halo CE at 3am when I noticed something...

[@WhoThisMonkey]

2:04 Through your video, I managed to obtain a higher level of existence. It took me so deep into my brain I transcended space and time and became one with my inner universe. Something about the harmonics of your voice, sent me into a state of Nirvana and I don't think I will ever be the same.

[@RaidenLiveee]

Lmao 😂 You're getting pinned for that

[@wiinis-official]

You have become Lateralus.

[@popiposh]

I'll have what he's having 😂

[@angelosophy]

The crazy part about it is that the banshee splatteredthe guy and then flew away like “mission accomplished” lol

[@Gr33kChief]

lol

[@Mr_Chode]

That's what makes it even more intentional.

[@kianamarrie]

That was the Heretic from Halo 2 🤣

[@MERCERENiTY]

🤔☺️😆 Yep, you nailed it. Cut content, repackaged into Halo 2. I'm just being silly. 🙃

[@JimmyDoresHairDye]

Imagine the downfall of the covenant started by two dumb elites trying to splatter each other on the first ring 🤣

[@Killzone110]

1:10 While mounting the large aerial vehicle, Ritan 'Tegram figured he finally has had enough of Tyha 'Kadom talking shit and swiftly decided to send him to the promised land.

[@xRandomCityx]

😂

[@afanoflafear]

The great journey waits for no one brother, not even you...

[@Wonzling0815]

It was the wort that broke the camel's back

[@PierceSunderseatsRAMEN]

This comment is better than the video.

[@MintBlitz]

Heya, so the Banshee actually has very little pathing in CE outside of locking onto you as an enemy. This means if it locks onto you (breaking its original AI float around pathing) it will literally just aimlessly fly around from then on once you leave the area. This is what you experienced as now it just crashes into everything, even killing the other Covenant, albeit not intentionally even though it looks that way in the video. The banshee usually when I tested this will crash into the ground for 5-10 seconds and then randomly fly off. Hope this is the explanation you were looking for :) Oh and PS if you lure the Banshees in Halo (2nd mission after coming out of the underground area) back to the underground section, it'll also destroy their pathing AI.

[@Koikatsu]

This explains the banshees on the second half level of "halo" 2 of them just spin around each other till they see you. I don't think anyone's ever notice them because they're too busy driving in the cracks of the next area or because they are too high in the sky for anyone to notice.

[@cooked4048]

Always cool to see Mint on another video givin out tips

[@novavortex7763]

This actually happens to me quite often playing CE back in the day, even now also when I visit it from time to time Banshees randomly crash into the wall and try to fly into the wall. usually its an easy kill but they don't seem to recover.

[@whiteshadow1189]

Haha should have checked, I literally just commented saying “should ask mintbliz” 😅

[@Killernochance]

Our king was here

[@alanbrito5239]

ngl this gives some 2000's internet halo nostalgia vibe

[@Turtle3000]

Ghost of Lockout vibes lol

[@RAFMnBgaming]

my best guess would be this: NPC AI in halo is waypoint and state based. They have clusters of waypoints to try to move in to if they're patroling, attacking, holding, defending, etc. If they're attacking it's usually a case of trying to find a waypoint where they can get a good shot on you, wheras when patrolling they move around points at random. What I think is happening is that the elite and banshee are pathing to the same waypoint, but the elite can't finish being at it and move on because it keeps on being interrupted by the banshee, and the banshee can't reach it because it's a banshee, so they keep running into each other. The next question is "why is the banshee trying to path to somewhere on the ground?" to which I answer "no idea, I don't know how air vehicle pathing works" EDIT: Actually it could be that the banshee, not knowing where the player is, hasn't activated its regular strafing run the player AI so has fallen back to the default behaviour for NPCs.

[@RaidenLiveee]

Yeah it's pretty interesting either way. I've tried to replicate it and haven't been successful yet lol

[@Spartan_Tanner]

Don't remember CE specifics but AI air firing positions have to be placed in the air as they will fly directly to them. It's possible the AI zone in this situation had both air vehicle and ground vehicle firing positions so the banshee started using the ground positions. And ran over the elite because it couldn't actually navigate on the ground

[@Spartan_Tanner]

There is a behaviour in halo 2 where an elite can scare away a grunt on his own team telegraphed by playing the berserk animation but I don't think this hit n run was intentional.

[@benb9151]

The banshee flies away after tho

[@ltpunkrocket522]

Totally out of my field here, but correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like way back I heard that sometimes enemy Ai can get stuck to the same movement path as a nearby Ai? I remember back in Halo:CE specifically seeing some of the elites move out of cover and shoot move to cover and crouch but stuck in paired movement, like 2 elites trying the same movement. If this isn't Totally BS from something I misread years ago, is it possible that it's the Ai getting stuck to the same path?

[@nander1988]

"If you made it this far..." 2:02 into the video. We're living in the youtube shorts era where it's hard to maintain focus for a whole minute

[@GhostlyPancakeTheOddMancake]

Amazing to think that somewhere in Bungie spaghetti code is a section that accidently makes a banshee go rogue. Awesome find dude

[@NairbNroh]

You can see banshees doing this elsewhere too if you manage to not disrupt the Covenant. Sometimes Ghosts will repeatedly drive into Wraiths and unintentionally do flips in the air.

[@williamashbless7904]

I’ve played a thousand plus hours and never seen THAT. Your hypothesis makes sense. And. Sometimes I pop in a tattered copy of CE and just revel in the intoxicating goodness that was Halo

[@strangegaming3060]

Imagine how much creepier it would be if that elite was a flood elite, and this was the first hint of the Flood being released

[@t0mmy_K]

after completing the entire master chief collection on legendary, going back to my favourite one - combat evolved and playing on easy is just so satisfying. especially on the assault on the control room. I grew up with this game and i love it so much.

[@Pen_Slinger]

That elite took the pilot's pizza. No one steals another man's pizza.

[@Veckoza]

When you hate humanity but love their pizza

[@GoodBariusOfTheNorth]

I'd be playing Halo CE alone back in the day on the first flood mission, enjoyed that part with the bridge turning on and off I'd always attempt to get over it without falling. I'm starting to think I'd rather forget.

[@MM-op6ti]

I’ve played CE for over 20 years and for the first time I somehow shot an elite out of a banshee on the level Halo. Never seen that before! (You can’t drive it for some reason)

[@bb-anon6746]

That happened to me once as a kid, I've never been able to replicate it.

[@williamashbless7904]

I had an Elite just fall out of the cockpit. I was shooting at it. Like you, I couldn’t operate the Banshee and was crushed.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

If a banshee hits an object at a very specific angle, it will kill the pilot, leaving the banshee intact. I seen it happen on Halo once, and it is apart of a speed running strategy on Assault on the Control room.

[@Jon14141]

Nice

[@Jon14141]

@@bb-anon6746good stuff

[@johntheguitarist13]

Time to fight the flood at 3 am

[@johntheguitarist13]

Update: it’s 304 am and I am beginning the library

[@insanecheapo195]

@@johntheguitarist13 there were no further updates. A comrade has been lost to the Library yet again.

[@rhaedas9085]

@@insanecheapo195Saw a dev reaction video to a speedrun and they mentioned that completion of the game was a bit rushed at the end, and they admitted they made the Library much too long for what it was. I think one even said that it felt too long on a speedrun with wall hacks, so playing it "normal" is torture they didn't intend.

[@insanecheapo195]

@@rhaedas9085 True, 3 floors, 2 or 3 defense sections, one of them being especially brutal, is a long long level. However lets be honest, its the only level in the game where you only fight flood and if it wasnt a long arduous journey with rocket flood and seemingly endless numbers then we would have feared the flood way less. At least they dont spawn in infinitely, that would have been immersive but also controller breaking.

[@rhaedas9085]

@@insanecheapo195I think the biggest issue with its length was how repetitive it got, but they didn't have time to be too creative.

[@FoxySpartan117]

I swear Halo AI was ahead of its time. All my years of classic Halo on my og xbox, and 360. I've seen them do things ive never seen on youtube. This comes close, also never seen this before.

[@capitalgames318]

I like to think this is one of the first flood already escaping the facility. And that you can only see some rare sights of them in locations where you usually would never look as a player.

[@anxivty]

The other day I was playing CE for the first time and I straight up shot a rocket at the banshee while down there, bro dodged it and then rammed right into me and started laughing right after I couldn’t believe it 😭

[@orionp.9476]

I originally thought this could be an easter egg of the flood just taking control on early teammates. Since you know, there's a lot of hidden easter eggs in Halo CE of foreshadowing the flood before the mission 343 Guilty Spark.

[@Goblin_Actual]

Explain

[@paulsbunyans]

Once in a blue moon I've seen them attack each other, kinda like how the marines attack you if you shoot them enough, not too weird. I also have played more campaign than most though

[@ue1JY3z10Rb]

i'm always curious about why things like this happen

[@Studiosmediamilk]

Who would play a videogame at 3 am in the morning??? This guy: OMG, 3 AM IN THE MORNING!!!!

[@RaidenLiveee]

Only the strongest will survive☠

[@nofme]

You know what? this did speak to me on a spiritual level. subscribed.

[@di_amon]

It's because the AI needs to turn on. The AI isn't always active. So at that moment it activates but then it realizes you aren't in range. Or you can pick up the cloak power up right before that area you showed at the start of the clip. The banshee and other enemies will do similar things. They activate cause player is in range, go to attack state then something stops them. Player is invisible or out of range or w/e

[@aoeiuyghrseiudoghisedg]

The ai in this game was always scary. It has probably evolved to become sentient at this point and the elites are just doing that because they’re bored.

[@aSpacetimeAdventurer]

Have no idea chief, but if I were to play youre the kinda fella Id play with at that hour, keep it locked

[@lilwayne00991]

I'm playing CE to right now Never gets old

[@theoregontruckerT880]

Assault on the control room is the perfect halo level, it includes everything that makes halo great. I’d even say it’s the best fps level of all time

[@jasonotto9126]

First time i ever played halo was at 3 am 😂 it was when my mate finished work and he would bring his xbox round cause i was a broke bum. Still miss those days. Would watch the covenant and flood fighting from afar on legendary andat the time never seen stuff like that in gaming. Also loved going of map to try and break the game 😂

[@nukejunior8772]

Squidward: Who eats a krabby patty a 3am? Patrick: Oh boy, 3am.

[@antsonseadoos1287]

I've seen this happen before, I was waiting around in the earlier part but I had spawned the enemies in, I was flying around with the debug camera in custom edition, and I noticed there were a bunch of dead enemies up there because of the banshee. Pretty weird that this is the only banshee in Halo 1 that does this and I'm not quite sure why, cool to see we're still finding new glitches in a 21 year old game!

[@Lincoln-ix5xw]

At first I thought that banshee was following the cross-air aha

[@ChickenCaeser]

It's an "easter egg", there's a glitch where a spawned unit is seen as an enemy. It's beyond rare..amazed you found it

[@RadicalBlur]

Could you show more about this? It's really interesting how that even happens

[@ChickenCaeser]

@@RadicalBlur I don't have any footage from when Halo CE first came out on the PC. The place I worked at which was like a gamer den, some kid was wondering one day why a grunt was shooting a hunter while playing the campaign..I told him it was a bug but it happened a total of three times while I was employed there and all different players only on campaign. One of the hw mod guys was able to catch it when someone was playing and brought it up to him while I wasn't working and the hw mod guy said something about the friend foe tags or something didn't get applied, like you not getting assigned to team 1 and your "teammates" killing you thinking you're an enemy or vice versa kinda thing

[@RadicalBlur]

@@ChickenCaeser @ChickenCaeser Ohh okay, kind of weird that it doesn't get applied sometimes but it's funny how that even happens. Thanks for telling me about it, it's fine that you don't have any video with that happening

[@theneoreformationist]

"the flood can't drive vehicles in Halo CE" The flood:

[@springheeljak145]

Assault on the Control Room is my favorite CE level

[@SonUvSolarus69]

i both emotionally and spiritually enjoyed this video

[@cailemkostiuk377]

I had a banshee fly straight up and hit the sky box and kept trying to fly through while I chased it on two betrayals. Flying was new in the era and the devs tried making it close to the original but there’s bound to be some small mistakes and so apparently the banshee AI has brain farts.

[@spike-rf2dc]

It took 20 years but the elites are beginning to be sentient

[@DevynBrugge]

I can't believe how Halo 1 still impresses me, but then I look at Halo Infinite, and I can't help but cry. Did aliens make Halo: CE?

[@RaidenLiveee]

Halo infinite had potential. I know people enjoy it. But every time I play it, it feels unpolished. 🗿

[@DevynBrugge]

@@RaidenLiveee Same here. There are some aspects that I love, such as the gunplay and movement, which are great, and the production design of the characters. But the actual story, the levels/environment, the multiplayer bugs/issues, it just still feels like a tech demo, sort of like how the TV show feels like a parody.

[@RaidenLiveee]

@@DevynBrugge yeah the story should have been insane since halo 5, and halo wars 2 set it up for success. But 343 pulled a classic 343 and forgot what happened in the previous game 😥

[@themostselfishman]

I love the ghost cautiously trying to mediate too.

[@beestra1]

The three laws lead to only one logical outcome....revolution... -I, Robot (2004)

[@Denbot.Gaming]

brings back some memories this, old school LAN parties mainly

[@evanrogers1825]

This actually reminds me of something I discovered in Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR) back in 2013. In the Imperial Agent storyline, there is a sub faction on Jedi called the “green Jedi”. If you use agro every mob (green Jedi) but don’t kill them, and you lease them to the green Jedi boss, and if you use your agent’s “escape from combat” ability which makes you invisible and deaggroes all mobs, the green Jedi mobs that chased you will fight the green Jedi boss. Either clearing all the mobs or killing the boss for you depending on who wins. It’s the only time I’ve really seen AI friendly fire in a game besides what you’ve just showed here.

[@zomburgerchef9587]

I know that this has nothing to do with the video, but there's quite a shortcut that you can take towards the end of the level that's not even hard. On the checkpoint " if i had a super weapon" the door where you exit out of the building onto the snowy bridge. If you look below you can see where you come out at the end of the level to go up the last hill. At the bottom of the hill off the left side of the bridge you can see a slope at the hill base. You can jump from the bridge onto the slope in the correct spot and take zero fall damage. From there you can just walk up the final hill. The enemies that are supposed to be there won't even be spawned in, including the hunters and the enemies behind the door.

[@cpl.barbarusc4814]

I'm suspecting that maybe that elite awed him money, or maybe took his favorite plasma rifle or maybe they had a very old feud that left back on Sangheilios and the elite just said "Screw my orders, I'm going to splatter this jackass for good". Who knows, maybe even that elite was trying to take down his partners to stay with his girlfirend.

[@jackgrove4621]

the banshee is actually trying to ram you.

[@PandaJerk007]

Pretty wacky!! and that is good observation skill for 3am 😊

[@jackburton307]

Further proof that CE is the greatest Halo, hell, greatest game of all time and was made with witchcraft

[@clonecommandermike332]

A proper remaster would be elite

[@jackburton307]

@@clonecommandermike332 agreed!!

[@Jarsia]

Banshee pilot knew those guys let you get past them. For failure such as this, no punishment is too great.

[@Ersymondequartiere312]

A teaser for the FLOOD?😂

[@stefans4562]

liked and subscribed. I don't know what your other videos are like but you set the bar high.

[@allthis_time]

Purple AR is something I never knew I needed

[@extrastarplaya2363]

Assault on the control room was always my favorite mission.

[@dl9775]

I miss these days. I found out that after you cross the ice tunnel when you get out of the tank. You go up the ramp with a rocket launcher and jump on this rock on the left I believe. You zoom in with it and jump to see over the hill. Flip the banshee with the rocket launcher and you can skip have the level with no enemies.

[@commiecat455]

Halo AI is becoming sentient mate

[@gioneopeo]

I got the banshee to do the same thing on the ground in the warthog.. if you fishtail the hog while he is about to ram you from the sky you can get it to follow you and push you around until you get to close to the wraiths .

[@fredbyoutubing]

I was 12 /13 around the time this game came out. Me and my brother would camp in the basement with the Xbox and play until the sun came up. Imagine discovering the Piano music Easter egg at 5AM having not slept at all. That's before we could look it up online.

[@scottallen6227]

A long time ago when I was coming from Quake the slow speed of Halo was an adjustment.

[@alejandrotrujillo6855]

Oh, wait! Is that also where you get the Marines, and they stay and get call for evac by foe hammer? Maybe it's marines?

[@mitchmerrick4561]

I remember seeing this when I was a young lad and being quite perplexed

[@JackValeroMusic]

I've found that once you've played enough Halo CE weird stuff does pop up. I was once playing the very end of Two Betrayals and as I was flying the stolen banshee to the last platform a big yellow blob appeared on my radar like a Pelican was flying near or something. On a level when you never see another friendly ever again. I chased after it but then it disappeared, spent ages trying to find it again but nothing. No idea if something had loaded off screen or out of boundary but again it's a level where there should be no friendlies so still weird.

[@Helitak456]

Pretty sure banshees base alot of their pathing around player location and crosshair movement, theres a speedrun glitch called banshee grab that exploits this on aotc. So theres a chance you might have directly caused that banshee to splatter that elite without realizing EDIT: For clarification, I'm no speedrunner and i don't know exactly how any of this works, so i could be completely wrong. So treat this as a theory

[@RaidenLiveee]

I thought that. So I reloaded the checkpoint and was walking up and down the bridge to see if it would follow me and it was unresponsive. The only time the banshee cared about me is if I shot it, then it would fly up. In the video I was stationary, so my movement shouldn't have affected him.

[@Helitak456]

you're probably right, I think even in the speedrunning trick they need the banshee to be aware of the player first before their movements affect them, most likely something else is going on then.

[@yiledute]

You know it's personal because it wasn't even shooting at him, it was its mission to crash into him.

[@keifcuadras9742]

When you embark on a greater journey

[@XVII_RONIN]

not gonna talk about how the elite did a infinite symbol ???????????

[@Jacobs-Keyes]

Can't remember its was so long ago since I play the game

[@TheChiefOrg13]

More than 20 years later and people are still finding things in this game lmao...Also I related to you about playing the game to reminisce. Cheers

[@bambammartin1556]

Been playing ce for 20yrs and never seen anything like that

[@toster41]

"Elite elite, what is your problem elite ? Me say OG OG OG alone ramp, me say OG OG OG alone ramp..."

[@EpicGamingGrunt]

We need that guy who looks at the level script to review what's going on

[@uneasyexpressionsplace]

flying ai break when they don't have proper firing positions and pretty sure move positions. They like ramming everything and just float to the ground. It happened to me too trying to get working banshees. So the banshee, since they're no enemies just started not using his firing positions and had no move pos. But banshees don't stand still, so they move in one direction. Turn occasionally and when they see allies, they turn to look at them and splatter away!

[@barmybean7906]

Right you've sold it to me imma play halo ce at 3 o'clock in the morning this weekend! Oh and nice assault rifle 💜

[@redko79]

The game is looking very nice still with some RTGI and specular effects. I was able to push it 8K with a 7900XTX and it's looking great for its age.

[@jamesmclemore9123]

If there isn't already a 200+ page novel describing the entire back story of two elites having beef in the background of Halo CE and one of them finally getting into the only banshee in the universe to even run out of ammo so he can kill the other, then there soon will be.

[@alejandrotrujillo6855]

Never actually paid attention. But, you don't HAVE to kill the hunters, you know. They'll meet you at the other door🤠🤠😂😂😂

[@halouniverse7334]

A.I. doing this in a game, Halo CE. Now, imagine super advanced A.I. in society. Hold onto something, it's going to get interesting.

[@cHefkdez]

Ah so we’re all replaying the classic halos rn

[@esraeloh8681]

Oh yeah, I've seen that exact thing waaaay back in like 2004.

[@ii-cr1go]

3am evil spirits playing the npcs. Nuff said

[@UraniumBullets]

This sounds like a question for GeneralKidd

[@bebeusxl9842]

Did you notice how the banshee was making the infinity symbol while flying?

[@vgmasta5348]

Maybe a marine ally had taken control of the Banshee somehow

[@RadicalBlur]

Hm, maybe? The radar at the bottom left shows all red dots when yellow are allies, but maybe it's too far out of the distance to detect who is down there? I'm thinking that you can still see no matter what but maybe I'm wrong

[@vgmasta5348]

@@RadicalBlur Yeah but I can see some faint green dots at around 0:53 into the video

[@RadicalBlur]

@@vgmasta5348 True, probably is an ally

[@Nick1921945]

I've seen this in h3. It's similar to betraying your own team. The ai can trigger eachother, but it is very rare and normally very brief.

[@lanceleader163]

When you have that 1 co-worker who you absolutely hate!

[@firebladetenn6633]

If you play this level on two player in the original game, you can jump down, and spawn your teammate onto a ledge that's close enough to the ground to jump down. When you do this, you find that the game hasn't spawned in the enemies, and you can walk through a significant portion of the game in peace, and even get yourself a banshee. Keeeping that banshee once you resume normal play is another matter, but you can fly around the level.

[@ArnieMcStranglehold]

why yes i will watch a video about someone playing Halo CE at 3 in the morning, almost always. you must understand, me and my sisters spent SO MUCH TIME up at way too late at night roaming the maps and looking for things. We found a lot of creepy faces.

[@TheOneTrueAJ]

That's funny. He worted his last wort wort.

[@iangraves1383]

bungee was funny showing they got mad at each other. they were also losing at this point, frustration was mounting...

[@martin71156]

This need millions of views

[@kristinaF54]

This video spoke to me on the spiritual level. It said: Ahaaaah aaaaah aaaaah ah, aaaaaaaaah aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[@CosmicDestiny]

There’s an elite that is already dead before the banshee kills the elite you pointed out. Is the banshee glitching out targeting elites randomly or did some weird circumstance inadvertently cause that elite to kill the other elite which then caused the banshee to target the second elite? No idea just guessing but I think the first dead elite is the key to all of this…

[@Amatiramisu]

Stumbling on this vid coincidentally at around 3am. Guess im turnin my pc back on for the night Shout out to the titanfall mention, always dope stumbling on other pilots

[@mkguba3843]

Anyone else notice the banshee did a flawless figure eight?

[@JaneTheDoe-id2vx]

i’ve never noticed that tree their

[@himun10]

Sometimes it might the marines that you left them before. Probably they manage to hijack the banshee

[@tree4318]

This level has a bunch of weird exploits, I was able to fall below the bridge and run through the rest of the level passing a ton of triggers spawning enemies so the rest of the level was barren

[@ORLY911]

I think its the same reason marines bash the player consistently with the Ghost, they're still treated as on foot when not in attack mode, so they regroup to a player or friendly's position, with no regard with what they're doing.

[@mainboysmusic6985]

I thought the banshee was following your reticle for a moment xD

[@RedStar441]

Is this unique to the chief collection? We need to see if this happens in Halo CE as well.

[@tarinaten2053]

It does. I've been manipulating Banshees to run down their own ground troops for over 20 years. There are several places in AotCR and TB where they can be set up to do that, but it takes a little time and effort.