Playing St Andrews BACKWARDS using hickory (wooden) golf clubs

[@Paddyf64x]

Min Lee’s swing is a thing of beauty

[@emjfotografi]

Agreed. Very smooth and powerful

[@KarateSensei71]

Min Lee is a class act, a very nice young man. Having Frasier walk and give history was priceless. Great video Rick.

[@R_J_G]

Great swing! Hope he wins many more tournaments.

[@lorenreyes2855]

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[@atarsingh2471]

Ojpmw class ç

[@Champs-ek7lh]

That story of how the course came to have 18 holes was amazing!

[@chopperskicow359]

He went to school with me

[@nicholaslandis596]

Rick needs to put this hickory putter in his bag. Haven't seen rick putt this good throughout the entire break 75 series

[@jefffawcett]

In all honesty putters are the most overpriced club. Is there really a difference between any modern putter be it $100 or $600?

[@MrPek-fe9fp]

@@jefffawcett Maybe for professionals and really good players overall. Not me though. 😂

[@thestalkinghorse]

He certainly did well with that one ( I think he always putts pretty well).

[@le4085]

@@jefffawcett $500

[@JimJamJ4]

@@jefffawcett there's a putter that stands up and you can go behind etc, that's the one I want🤣

[@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance]

This practice helped Min Woo Lee secure the Scottish Open.

[@PlatinumRuleDotCom]

Those last three holes proved to me that professional golfers can properly strike and shape shots at will with nearly any equipment. They play at a level I simply cannot comprehend. Also, Mr. Shiels played amazingly well having never touched those sticks prior. Only took him a few holes to make adjustments. Great playing by both men and was very entertaining to watch.

[@ramzhal4260]

Min Woo Lee on 10: "Hit that drive too good". Something I've never said in my gotdamn life.

[@h.m.5924]

Min Woo just casually hitting a 4i off the deck as far as I can hit my driver. It's disgusting how good Tour pros are.

[@floydianepic3259]

And one of the best swings I have ever seen.

[@jrtaylor1010]

Hearing his strike in my headphones got me speechless.

[@Mesenteric]

And he’s like “should I hit it 200 or 210 yards” and meanwhile I’m standing there trying to keep it in bounds lol.

[@jacklowe3037]

@@Mesenteric I’m sorry I’m hitting a drive 220 on a good day and my guy is just casually smashing my drives with a ruddy long iron. It’s stupid. But that’s why they are pros.

[@granthowes5659]

I hit my own 4i further than I can drive 😂 Little embarrassing but steps in the right direction

[@niknax2]

When Min Woo Lee said his shoulders were feeling tired on hole 4 😂

[@ZBisLOVE]

Because of you Mr. Shiels, I've learned to laugh at myself more. If I shank a shot I don't get so frustrated anymore. Watching your content and observing your personality along the way has rubbed off on me. I find myself enjoying the game of golf more nowadays. Thank you for being you man. I've gotten some friends addicted to your review vids as well haha

[@CATKYBNM]

this is a really nice comment.

[@MrRobertLavala]

I couldn't agree more. I feel the same way and actually started talking to myself and the ball when on the course... LOL.

[@_K_W]

I love the first swing Min says break 90 challenge almost immediately, kid has a sense of humor.

[@thenextgen175]

Today’s golf club designers: Makes like 50 different lofts on clubs Ancient golf club designers: Let’s make the same head but different shafts

[@FatManWalking18]

only 7 clubs so you have to be creative instead of relying on stock loft

[@madisspiegel]

Well the old timers ended up actually carrying 30-40 clubs eventually, before the 14 club rule was introduced.

[@caseysmith544]

​@@madisspiegel When that was though was in 1915 up till the 14 club rule and mostly used before the iron or Steel shafts in all the clubs in the 1920's that were labeled often as a rustless metal as a true stainless steel or stainless iron was hard to find in the clubs was the the need with hickory to have replacements due to how the hickory shaft would break after time or on hard shots in rocky rough not earlier then 1910 due to mass production of golf clubs was not really yet a thing so getting the same club that the head and shaft would be rather similar in flight for spares was hard.

[@ksharpe10]

@@caseysmith544 Didn't they have steel rods in later hickory shafts for a while before all steel shafts??

[@le4085]

Hic stx each have their own personal flex points. They are primitive sticks of nature adapted for primitive games. Finding the flex point is key to executing what shot you are trying 🎯. Each club was cut, cast, or forged with breakthroughs like dimples. That's y old masters would say "Golf is a stupid game played with inadequate tools".

[@killacamfoo]

I recently played a course in Michigan called "The Loop" which replicates the originally intended layout of St. Andrews and even has the same grass seed used as those courses. It plays two ways every other day. Incredible.

[@jackparres6133]

I watched a video on that. It looks awesome

[@adamgermain48]

Forest Dunes is one of my absolute favorite courses. Last time out we were going to play the Loop but didn't get a chance. Maybe this year!

[@sliver8682]

Played there last year. Loved it

[@bpvirgo]

Wow!

[@stsgolf14]

yes i have seen clips of this as well, looked awesome

[@daniellish8914]

This is one of the best videos you’ve ever put out. Amazing.

[@leonardhandzlik6008]

Again, one of your best videos ever. You keep coming up with great ones. I once thought I would like to play a round with hickory clubs, but now I am sure I would just butcher it up. I do think I would like to have a go with my old Wilson Walter Hagen drive again though.

[@danielvosloo1691]

No wonder he won the Scottish open!!🙌 class act, deserves it 100%

[@TheGar1968]

My Grandfather was junior champion at St Andrews. He born and bred there. His father was a caddie and carried for Jock Hutchinson as an Open winner. Both worked for Old Tom Morris as club makers. His record with Hickory clubs was 68. I have a dozen hickory clubs that he made. ST Andrews is a special special place. GREAT video.

[@AtticusLane]

I literally looked up if you had played with Hickory Clubs before last night. Damn, lucky me.

[@dougie6897]

Hopefully Rick will make some more hickory videos.... golf in it’s truest sense

[@thestalkinghorse]

And not just hickory clubs, those things go back to Old Tom Morris I think. I have hit balls with hickories from the 1920s. Very stingy sweet spot and a club or two less carry (and, do not hit into rough). They would probably feel like game improvement clubs to Rick after playing with those relics.

[@Justhype89]

Mate get min woo Lee on more often of he's over here he's such a cool guy man

[@eg1918]

Rick, I think you found your new putter😅

[@twm4259]

CarpenterMade 1811

[@timroden6617]

That is some of your best putting.

[@yellowhammer685]

"It's time for the old Billy Barru!"

[@cd66061]

@@twm4259 lol.. 👍🏻

[@gbC4mpos]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@discgolfbilly]

Excellent nostalgic experience Rich & Min Lee!......Tom Morris would give you both a "Jolly Good Show and Well Done laddies!"

[@dhelps]

Absolutely love this video. Great to see that the equipment is secondary to a players skill. Incredible that you can both pick up anything and hit shots like that! 👏🏼

[@MarkM22]

The funny thing is I was literally just watching Happy Gilmore use his hickory clubs to outdo Shooter an hour ago. What are the chances

[@mikelob6707]

Not to doubt ya mate as I haven't seen happy Gilmore in years but were his clubs hickory or just wooden head clubs? Either way, I think I need to watch happy Gilmore again for nostalgia

[@cathanmccarthy8898]

And I just watched cinema sins talk about happy Gilmore earlier 😂

[@chrisparry4461]

Did you see Rick just ‘tap’ it in!! Tap tap tap!

[@sweetbillyb0y]

Well good for Happy GilmoOHMYGOD

[@thespamisgood12]

Of I was only 3 hours earlier, I had the same interaction

[@maka1177]

Probably the best video in a long time if ever. Cool to see the use of hickory clubs and old school ball. Plus Min Woo Lee is now one of my favorite golfers. Hope to see him win some big tournaments.

[@SirLampsALot]

This comment aged like fine wine

[@hauntedutah]

“Golf was hard back then….” Lol 😂

[@K2SKIER112]

Yesterday, last week, last month or last year?

[@hauntedutah]

@@K2SKIER112 I was just repeating what Rick said in the video lol

[@filippostopponi]

@@K2SKIER112 tomorrow. Tomorrow it was hard.

[@stsgolf14]

haha very true

[@bobanderson6675]

Love watching Min Woo Lee a great modern player play with old clubs and balls. Awesome.

[@KCKempinski]

This is your best video hands down Rick, you had a great time and it showed. Jealous but at the same time happy you got to play the round this style and the cherry on top was using time period accurate equipment. Any golf enthusiast would've been over the moon with this opportunity and it's great to see you took the time to enjoy it. I'll be cheering for Min Woo Lee on the tour, what a great example of a class act.

[@bobbrown5951]

"I'm asking like I know what club I'm gonna hit". Made me laugh. It's all guesswork.

[@GreenIris1110]

When you Gents changed over to the guttie, those hickory sticks just came alive!! Amazing footage, I would like to see a whole round with the guttie!!

[@viktornicht260]

Rick plays better with hickory clubs than I play with my fitted clubs

[@Leftylobber]

Sounds like a personal problem. Get lessons my friend. We always can improve with help but improving on our own is the greatest conundrum to playing golf.

[@TheEvoTheory]

makes me want to cry

[@joeschmoe2697]

@@Leftylobber “Sounds like a personal problem” sheesh dude

[@Leftylobber]

@@joeschmoe2697 I did sound a bit rude. My bad, I've been eye-rolling the LA "Citiots" with douchebag attitudes who think they're good since Covid brought them out here.. When guests ask me all puffy chested and arrogant, "whats the course record?" I tell them "1Hr, 5Min"" LOL

[@Leftylobber]

@@joeschmoe2697 most of these folks play golf like they're going bowling. "We need to rent clubs, can we rent shoes? Can we rent a glove? If we buy balls can we return them if we didn't use all of them" never set foot on a golf course in their life, no etiquette no understanding. Its like skipping training wheels to a racing motorcycle. Doesnt work that way

[@johnnyhicks2386]

I played all my younger days with hickory golf clubs and I loved them , no fancy heel toe weighting , you brought back some great memories Rick many thanks.

[@trevisaf]

The sound of the hickory drivers off the tee shots is amazing. Gives me the warm and fuzzies 🤗🤗🤗

[@jdstarek]

I honestly feel like I’m out playing when I watch these videos. Lovely series, amazing camera work.

[@bpvirgo]

This was such a pleasure to watch - such a great concept, such a great experience and such a good production. Thank you.

[@dougie6897]

Fantastic video! Wouldn’t it be wonderful if just one of the 4 majors was a hickory club major...... no more 7000 yard courses needed... it’s good for the environment... good for quicker golf rounds... just skill skill skill and great tempo golf swings .

[@ksharpe10]

I have wanted to see this and or a back to Persimmon/balata ball tournament for ages. There is a hickory League somewhere from what I remember.

[@charlesbond4413]

This is the most fun I’ve had watching golf since Tiger live. Thank you Rick, Min and Frasier.

[@metsrule31]

Been a huge fan from the very early days, and you can go back and easily pick out the top fan favorites from the channel, the battles with Pete and M&MG, the Dubai rounds with the young lads, the Turkey trips; the night golf series, the Orlando vlogs with The Hammer, playing in Santa outfits in freezing windy weather, I mean these are classic fan favorites. This video here though, now ranks at the top of the list, hands down number one pick! Thank you for this incredible experience to watch!

[@kpkelsey]

One of the best things I've seen in a while. Wow.

[@steveash656]

In a hundred years time, the pros will pick up a Callaway like that played by Min Woo here, and say how did they play with these things....!!?

[@nokia5359]

By then Par 3 would be from Pebble Beach to St. Andrew. Par 4 would be earth to moon...

[@TheAdamwalters]

Where can they actually go with technology though?! I’m sure they said this in 70s but it’s hard to think what else that can change other than more gimmicks eg twist face

[@Pulse2AM]

@@TheAdamwalters AI and materials I imagine will constantly evolve, plus so much is marketing to get you to buy the latest.

[@daltonparker1163]

@@TheAdamwalters I think you’re right, assuming though that the rules don’t change. We’re already at the point in the last 5 or so years that amateurs like myself can hit a ball at or over 300 yds comfortably.

[@krazykozey2259]

@@daltonparker1163 I don't even play at all and was smashing drives a week ago 330 yards at the range. According to the guy's in the next stall I have a natural draw shot. 2nd time in my life going to the driving range. I'm picking some Taylor Made Rs1's up tomorrow from one of the guy's we met and they want to take me practicing. 36 years old so maybe the technology is maxed out if I can do it lol. Wish me luck lol.

[@lawbinson]

Hickory Players: I can’t stand the profile of those Mizuno blades. Soles too thick.

[@FlamingPiss]

I have a set of blades from the 70s, and I think the same thing. Modern day blades look like game improvement comparatively lol. In a way it’s confidence inspiring 🤣

[@lawbinson]

@@FlamingPiss Yeah, funny enough, it's the game improvement irons that have gotten smaller. Compare the Ping G20 with the G425 haha

[@ericsingleton7736]

Pretty much

[@firstlt2]

The Old Course in Reverse... incredible. That 18th Tee shot is absolutely gorgeous.

[@SethKash]

Oh this brings back memories. It’s some feeling being there in that little town. The people who live there are blessed. So beautiful!

[@ozitenor]

Love that whole family! - Min Woo and Min Jee are legends and we Aussies are so proud of them both.

[@mattlawrence6342]

Played my first hickory event last month - grew to love the mashie niblick, and the challenge of hitting each shot as pure as you can. Makes you think about how much modern clubs hide one’s frailties

[@kennethseeholzer3565]

This was by far the best video Rick has ever made. I had a smile on my face the entire time. What an experience! Everyone was class, Rick Min Woo, and especially the caddie. Absolute class all around!p

[@thestalkinghorse]

I loved it too. I didn't think you could play the old course backwards anymore. I had read that they used to do it in days of yore. Bucket list item.

[@badgerski705]

One of the most entertaining golf videos ever. Your and Min Woo Lee's obvious respect for the game was apparent.

[@petemonks8796]

Absolutely awesome video! I didn't know the course could be played backwards like that and the way you both adapted to the hickories was tremendous. Proper entertainment right there!

[@Shogunslossy]

By far my favorite course I’ve ever played. Something about being on that course bring a whole different experience to golf

[@jimmccoys5778]

Definitely my number 1 bucket list trip. Even if i just get to walk it on a Sunday. But to play it would be a dream. Not sure i could stop my knees from shaking the entire round!!

[@flucazade]

Certainly some places just have an aura, you can almost feel the importance of the region. As a golfer it's almost spiritual

[@Shogunslossy]

@@flucazade exactly you can’t even put it in words.

[@Shogunslossy]

@@jimmccoys5778 I was lucky enough to have my older brother attend the university so I was able to play there a few times. I couldn’t suggest a trip there more, stop over and play kings after hahahahaha

[@Knchowley]

Priceless opportunity and great history lesson. Well done sir, per usual.

[@daegantrafton3272]

Let’s go another vid coming in hot!

[@caggius42]

One of the most enjoyable videos I have ever seen on KZbin. Iconic venue, great to see it played backwards and with real clubs !

[@deanoz1973]

I have ben putting off watching this video as I didn't think seeing you play Hickory would be interesting but wow what a great video and Min Woo Lee seems like a super cool guy.

[@jasonbrunt850]

Rick, it was so enjoyable watching this. 30 minutes well spent. Thanks for making great content.

[@Mark-sc4bu]

This was a great video Rick, easily my favourite of all the vids. The amount of respect for the pioneers of golf playing with that equipment is off the charts! Min Woo Lee was a great sport and appreciated how difficult it was to even hit the ball cleanly with the old clubs.

[@cvlyons18]

Awesome video. Love that the course was played in reverse and with hickory clubs. Makes you appreciate how good those golfers were back then

[@iiredeyeiiredeye1569]

Rick of all your videos you've done this is by far my favourite. I'm sure it was as special for you as it was for all of us. Playing with those beautiful old clubs with one of the worlds elite players (and a gentleman), at the most special of all golf courses. Thank you for sharing this with us all.

[@TheMinioner]

one of those videos you watch with a smile on your face from start to finish .

[@pootle1810]

Cracking video. That must have been an awesome experience, like you said in the video, not one that many people will ever get to experience. 👍

[@peterhodel9071]

I'd love to play the Old Lady reverse! Bottom line: this just shows how incredibly good players Vardon & Braid, Hagen & Jones and many others where. I sometimes wonder what they would've managed with modern clubs. PS: This vid 'explains' why some of the bunkers on the Old seem to be facing in odd directions when you play the course the 'regular' way.

[@teebob21]

20:19 "Look how thin it is" Me: *looks at my 20 year old no-name clubs from Target* "I don't see the problem here."

[@mdjamilabdulkarim1364]

Who would have guessed that Min Woo Lee was joint leader at 18 under at Aberdeen Scottish Open wearing the same attire as in this KZbin video. And winning The Aberdeen Scottish Open. Rick must be the lucky charm. Congratulations Min Woo Lee!!!

[@markreid9810]

Fantastic video. Seeing you get the measure of the old clubs over the first few holes was the best part for me. Min Woo Lee is a class act and great ball striker. Need more videos like this!!

[@22LEKI]

All good Rick, we know you're the man! This was a great watch. Great drive on the 3 hole🔥

[@Scatpack0392]

Hi Rick I just started playing golf and I seen you’re video about the callaway edge set and I picked them up at Costco they are fantastic clubs thank you for Recommending them

[@keithcook5386]

Outstanding production! First time I’ve seen the entire Old Course played backwards. The touch of old hickory clubs & modern clubs alternate shot was amazing! Well done! KEEP that hickory putter in the bag!🔥⛳️

[@FrankHampster]

One of your best video blogs yet. Min Woo is an Aussie legend in the making and the future of golf in Australia. Thanks team for a fantastic round of golf.

[@lewiscox6858]

Probs the best video you’ve ever done Rick! Min Woo Lee what a class act! Keep em coming

[@twhite3003]

Min just clutched another win!! Hell yeah, he's young, he'll be contending for major championships soon.

[@ozcam666]

Rick every time: ‘gotta swing smooth’ Rick at the top of his swing every time: zooooommm

[@mrdestiny2011]

Min Woo Lee 2021 Scottish Open Champion! Ain't that something!

[@bjm1711]

Rick, I really enjoy your vids but this one was super special. I had a big grin on my face from 18th to the first. I admire your courage in taking on the hickories without any previous experience. Thanks too to Min Woo Lee, a nice guy and one heck of a golfer.

[@paulmoore1559]

Wow... money couldn't buy the day you had, very rare layout with historic clubs and a world class playing partner... just brilliant 👍

[@conorhickey6345]

Who’s here after Min woo lee won the Scottish Open

[@RobMensStyling]

1+

[@RobMensStyling]

Same Jacket

[@marklynch5236]

Won a cheeky $500 on him

[@elprez1]

@@marklynch5236 I won $50; dropped $1 on him before the final round.

[@drrob1963]

One of our fabulous Aussie boys!

[@GrowYourReputation]

Rick, the "Gutty" ball you unveiled on the 16th tee is not filled with feathers. The feathery balls were used before the "Gutty" came along. Gutty is for Gutta Percha, which is the rubbery sap of the Sapodilla tree.

[@TonyWhitley]

Also he didn't mention that it's smaller than current balls - "The standard size golf ball today is 1.68 inches, but before the nineteen eighties, the minimum size was 1.62 inches."

[@ubute]

and the "play club" (a long nose driver in this case) a little mound of sand was used instead of a tee (which hadn't been thought of then).

[@ubute]

and Old Tom had a son with the same first name. He's the fellow who won the challenge belt outright in 1870 after winning it also in 1868 and 1869. You actually showed a picture of him at the start of your video; Young Tom Morris. Because Young Tom got to keep the challenge belt for winning it three times in a row, the next year they played for a claret jug of all things.

[@phamilton0148]

I have recently go into golfing I went for the second time ever yesterday and I was very happy I hit 3 pars on 9 holes

[@Debidawg]

Min is so sweet and shy/humble. Great memory and amazed how quick you adapted to those hickory’s

[@user-tl2mp4qx9d]

This is right up there with your very best videos, Rick. Absolutely loved it. And to play with one of my favorite pro golfers, Min Woo Lee made it extra special.

[@monsterbowler]

Love it! I am actually in the process of switching to hickory as my primary set. Right now, I am shooting the same with hickory as with modern and find the creativity needed with fewer clubs and different technology an amazing challenge and has increased my enjoyment of golf substantially! Great stuff

[@Chazthefurr]

It was great to see how even for you two this was a real learning experience.... and it was clear how much you enjoyed the almost-unique day with reverse and hickories. Rick - were you tempted to put that putter in your regular bag?

[@jimfrater7395]

And he wins the Scottish Open! Well done Min Woo!

[@patcostello7556]

This is my favorite Rick video. I come back to it a lot. the hickory clubs, St. Andrews and Min Woo Is so fun

[@bigjake099]

Rick, that without question is my all time favorite video of yours, AND, Min is a class act!!! ⛳️⛳️⛳️👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻

[@calebwhite8890]

Watching a professional golfer have to yell that dreaded 4 letter word and give the little sorry wave resonates with me at a spiritual level. Great Vid

[@garybrumley3519]

That was freaking awesome! I’m a bit surprised that you didn’t use a little mound of dirt when you teed off to make it more authentic. Great video and good to see Min Woo Lee again. Cheers!

[@Tydrummer]

"We have original golf balls." *Cuts it in half*

[@Special___K]

I wish he would have. The expression on his face would have been priceless when he realized that gutties don't have goose feathers.

[@Dude0000]

Imagine when that goose lived whose feathers are inside that ball...

[@Special___K]

Gutties. Don't. Have. Feathers.

[@joeypiatek6792]

Gutta perchas are solid, they don’t have feathers inside. Featheries had leather covers, not gutty.

[@christophereaton4694]

They had to play the big piece when they broke them back in the day.

[@samclulow]

Thanks for sharing that with us Rick, what an absolute pleasure to have seen the old course being played in reverse which as you say is so rare… to then see you both play the hickory’s so well ….. what a player and nice chap MEL is, it’s why we love an Aussie! 👍

[@brianmorgan7751]

My favorite video so far. Thanks Rick for the experience.

[@bwyn1268]

Watching the Scottish Open now and Min Lee waiting at the club house with the lead 😳

[@terranceparsons5185]

So who would be more shocked? Someone like Dustin Johnson dealing with hickory clubs or Old Tom Morris dealing with modern clubs.

[@nokia5359]

@terrance parsons, good question 👍. It would be old Tom, obviously. He would be screaming from first T to the 19th. You call this Golf !!! You are just a bunch of cheats !!! Cheat ! That's cheat !! That's cheating, too !!! DJ: cheat? You call that cheat? Wait 'til you see my driver 😜

[@bobbiebreezy1740]

Old Tom all day cause it would be like nothing he could have ever imagined. DJ has at least seen the hickorys before and knows they exist.

[@terranceparsons5185]

@@bobbiebreezy1740 I think so. Seeing Old Tom in his plus fours, tweed jacket and face fungus starring in shock at a modern driver would be a picture. "Whit duh yuh call thus wee jobby then, dee a play golf we it oor knock in a fence post?"

[@bobbiebreezy1740]

@@terranceparsons5185 all bets are off when DJ hits him with "it's a titanium carbon alloy combo metal" then Tom thinks DJ Is an alien for sure.

[@nokia5359]

@@bobbiebreezy1740 you are a very serious person, aren't you.

[@pokurowski]

Congrats to MW Lee on his Scottish Open Victory

[@allahalibaba9063]

Great round of golf Rick.....You are a natural with those clubs....and the weather really worked for you all...Thanks for the tour of St. Andrews....Love your Show....

[@tsbsox]

That was great fun, can't believe how quickly you got use to those Hickory clubs, Old Tom would be proud of you!

[@cameronhyde573]

And i'm here scared of hitting blades haha

[@rolirolster]

Where's the birdie sauce? I need my birdie sauce, they're just not quite as tasty without 'em. 😉

[@cauliflowerpete616]

Golfers back then really must’ve been impressive… wonder how they’d do today

[@davet2625]

Great that you have so much appreciation and enjoyment in what you're doing.

[@nohandledude]

OMG, Min Woo Lee's is so talented. I look forward to seeing more of his play on tour. Good luck, Min Woo!!!

[@adamgermain48]

Rick pulls out his ball cutter and says it wouldn't be a ball review without cutting it in half, world gasps!

[@bmurphy2393]

Update, Min Woo Lee just won the Scottish Open. Congrats

[@joshgilfoy979]

6:28 Golf was HAAHHHD back then

[@brucetonkin9032]

Awesome. The hickory clubs and old golf balls. Absolutely lovely.

[@triggerhappyreviews]

I hadn't played golf in 15 years. I gave it up when I had children. One of your videos popped up one day and i watched it and realized how much I missed the game. I started again this summer and am now addicted to it. Thanks for playing a part in getting me back in the game.