Playing The Worst Nation In Hearts Of Iron 4 Until I Have Fun

[@just__mate]

With how big and convoluted it is, the Turkish focus tree should really hide the paths that have become inaccessible to you.

[@maxtex60n40]

New DLC idea 😂

[@halolong5461]

​@@maxtex60n40it's going to be $30 with this as a core feature and like 4 minor nations geting focus tree

[@luna_macaroni]

But no relevant minors ​@@halolong5461

[@northernmostrat]

Isn't there a setting that does that in the options menu?

[@Coldwatercavs01]

Only some nations seem to do it for whatever reason. Guess they didn’t care enough to update old focus trees

[@tyrakodyrg2511]

Mr Timothy was my father, please just call me Gravy.

[@piercebunge4297]

AYO😊

[@qhu3878]

gravy timothyson

[@huni1939]

The Turkish focus tree is about as understandable as the Navy in hoi4

[@JudgeandJuri]

IDK man Navy seems less esoteric

[@clementpruvost8670]

The only thing that I can put out with the focus tree is the Ottoman Empire.

[@kaancesur-19]

I understand it but i have played every single path

[@olcia4bify]

Yes

[@kaiser_wilhelm_II_of_germany]

It doesn't help the fact that the mutual paths don't disappear like in other focus trees

[@a_person_of_all_time]

The entire tree is just 70d focus slop, and when you finally get to the bottom to the Turan part, it's decent but it's so late in the game it's literally useless

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

By the time you get there Russia or Germany is already on the verge of capping and everyone is in the Allies so you can't do anything without it turning into a World Conquest.

[@yengidemir]

1943*

[@keizervanenerc5180]

Do you know where Turkey in Hoi4 is also infamous for? Randomly declaring war on tje Soviet Union while being in the allies while Historical AI is ON. That has repeatedly ruined games for me! (AI allies or Soviets already eating rocks against the Axis deciding it's a better idea to fight each other as well.....)

[@veritusahriman9720]

It is honestly really annoying, I was doing everything I could to push into Italy as Allied Bulgaria, when all of a sudden some AI gremlin decides to open a second front right on my northern borders with the Soviets (I already capitulated Romania). I have to strat redeploy 75% of my army, losing northern Italy and got stuck in 'Mannerheim-mode' for 2 ingame years until my airforce clears up the opposition. I'm good with some 'operation unthinkable' action, but the Axis hadn't even capitulated yet.

[@yengidemir]

thats skill issue, no way you hae not capepd germans by 1943

[@bigpoppa1234]

I took my first long break from the game because of this and I've never gone back to Vanilla since either. I play on the hardest difficulty because of the brain dead AI at least in vanilla, so after a very long build up, finally holding back the germans at the gates of Moscow and preparing a counter-offensive, game instantly ruined by Turkey.

[@qhu3878]

what thw actual fuck, I've played enough crusades in ck3 to know paradox ai has a mental disability but how is that even possible in a historical game

[@playerspieler1122]

There is also a "hidden" path where you go down the focus tree to reform the Ottoman Empire and get the civil war but instead of actually restoring the Sultan you can go down the reconfigure Turkish Foreign Policy path making everything you did for nothing and leaving the country in a limbo as the Provisional State of Anatolia.

[@kaancesur-19]

There's also a hidden event option if you don't do political focuses and your leader retires, you can get a hidden leader

[@U87-z2w]

​@@kaancesur-19who

[@dripmaestrolxix4228]

@@U87-z2wHidden

[@captainspaceboyloverxx]

this is not hidden and ai can do it(i saw them do)

[@captainspaceboyloverxx]

​@@kaancesur-19this is also not hidden, you get the abdulmecid

[@JesseSchultz-v8k]

The best part of any Isorrow video is that he always address me by name, and I really appreciate that.😊😊

[@GoodbyeBleed]

let me hit please let me hit let me hit please let me hit let me hit please let me hit let me hit please let me hit let me hit

[@Potatotenkopf]

I hope they make the Ottoman path easier to get now that they clearly dropped the "realism" bit with the Germany wins update.

[@RikusentaiOfficial]

16:44 I know that TRIGGERED Canadians lmao

[@xeanderman6688]

0:20 I thought T stands for "Let's sell some opium to China"

[@absent_sucks]

interesting enthusiasm

[@NavyVet9702]

ISP invading Iraq for oil. The Americans: ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

[@worldofdoom995]

Britain owned half the middle east for like 30 years

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

The Turkish tree is stupid. It has some good focuses but by the time you there, everyone is guaranteed or WW2 has been going on for 3 years, there is next to no industrial focuses, everything is convoluted, and the most important parts of Turkiye during that time like the Kurdish resistance gets a bunch of button clicks. Turkiye, USA, and Japan are awful trees. Meanwhile, Paradox is giving us an entire South American trees for countries that had little to no influence in the war.

[@valance10]

Tbf turkey didnt do anything in ww2 either

[@aviosche8951]

I like having focuses for minor nations even those that did nothing cuz I rather make my own history than copy paste what already happened. But seriously after the next dlcs they should rework some other nations including battle for bosphorus group

[@doctorwhat779]

​@@valance10 I hate this argument. This is not just a ww2 game it is also an alt history game.

[@valance10]

@@doctorwhat779 true. I understand what the devs were trying to do with turkey but ultimately fun NEEDS to come first

[@doctorwhat779]

@@valance10 also true. I don't think focus tree is great but "x county tree not needed because not in ww2" is an annoying argument.

[@timsdoingstuff]

The best part of any Isorrow video is that he always address me by name, and I really appreciate that.

[@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta]

5:18 I have no idea why the game doesnt calls it the 12 islands. Who the hell is gonna know On iki means twelve.

[@Thor_the_chad]

Damn, dude just released a turkey vid at the same time im having a vacation there. Baller

[@florianbielawa2919]

i was going for the ottoman achievement as turkey, didnt really read the event pop ups correctly so i was just casually locked out of the focus tree and had to start over lmao

[@e.corellius4495]

literally, your stability was too high, thats why the the civil war wont pop, and why the pasha's dont show up.

[@greggorythefox722]

Imagine a turkish spy, convincing some british bureaucrats, that collaborating with the Turkish Empire is a coll idea

[@matthewsmith2715]

can't wait for THE RAT(just give it over man)

[@muleorastromule3491]

18th restart after messing up the Turkish tree: "Maybe I'll just not play Turkey ever again."

[@Daniel-kq4bx]

Turkish invasion of Cyprus? I think I have seen that anime before

[@Daniel-wy3tc]

Isorrow playing turkey talking about dealing with the Kurds. Swimmy moment

[@josephcola9662]

I'm not Turkish, but the Turkish focus tree is such a mess that I think I'd pay another $10 for a DLC that just disables it entirely.

[@treyringgold3357]

Lazytown mod nostalgia November

[@rogueemerald]

For nostalgia November you should check out the warlord era mod successor autumn begonia

[@commandantcarpenter]

2:05 "kamalism"

[@TheChaoticLaw]

140 days for a focus decision?! Surely there isn't a longer one...

[@aux-jarivistes9681]

Surprised this video isn't still an ongoing livestream

[@TangyGuest1]

Least complicated HoI4 focus tree:

[@easternoilcrisis]

git gud

[@ordinaryrat]

Um.. actually its actulally the most complicated focus tree and nothing else comes close

[@RottenFlesh-we6nu]

Switzerland:

[@User1-zxsdsdeete]

@@ordinaryrat r/ wooooosh

[@ordinaryrat]

@@User1-zxsdsdeete ironic

[@AmirrezaGaffarzadeh]

Yo. Iran was invaded by allies and comintern and didn't capitulate Iran stronk😂 😂😂 17:15

[@zachgamr99]

Ironic this came out the same day as the Reddit post. It truly is the Focus Tree of all time.

[@noboom4025]

We didn't forget about the RAT bring back the RAT

[@e102g2]

comedic timing of my headset.. "They are in africa just not the part they used to "BeeP" and then out of power xD

[@bobreto]

Funny thing about turkey is when I played soviets i puppetd this Nation but after a year they Turner democratic and had ottoman civil war (still as my puppet and the Republic took constantinopol from me (i annexed it when the bosphorus crisis happend)

[@supermassivecow308]

When I imagine you sitting at the computer for days at a time. I can only see a man sitting at a desk made of carboard. its resting on the concrete floor of an unfinished basement. The floor is covered in water like a pipe burst and nobody cared. A big glass of tea not a mug A Glass is in your hand. the pc is this monstrous RGB lighted behemoth with a Windows 97 looking old as funckle case, the monster is Lying sideways on the watery floor. On the wall behind you is a British imperial flag that has been shredded and looks moldy. Your chair is a Victorian armchair that has been sat in Everyday for 150 years. Fog envelopes your room. Sewer rat vibes. I refuse to elaborate further. Any way i love your videos I watch all of them!

[@BaguetteSolider]

I have ONLY done the Ottoman path in hoi4

[@Lysvsyl]

Gaming KZbinrs when they don't feel fulfilled in their career: "What if I tilt the screen? I am an artist!" To the annoyance of everyone.

[@patchworkpizza5832]

Fun fact: The Soviets on historical will always back down over the straits being remilitarized even if the British abandon you

[@TheVirtuosoe]

Thank you bro, was waiting for this video :)

[@TheVirtuosoe]

You did not get compliance advisor?!? Whyyu

[@Pandacous]

I thought I was alone in thinking turkey sucked. It's not that the flavor isn't there its that it takes forever to get to.

[@selimcelik3494]

I actually like the Turkey tree... It's wonderfully cheesy and outrageous towards the end. But I like playing super late games, unlike almost everyone else.

[@ScotchWhiskey864]

I'm feeling nostalgic for Regnum Bosphori If only there was a month to bring back the Roman client state This message was brought to you by Timmy 136,925 of the I Sloppidy Poppity Rat association

[@Crusader1089]

I think the Kurds and Armenians would say it's a Turkish empire, controlling lots of land which rightfully belongs to people who are not Turks.

[@N1ght_Breaker]

1:50 ISP, if you are on historical the Soviets are hard coded to back down every time even though the Brits abandon you, as long as you keep standing up to the pressure without caving. But obviously that's only on historical, if you're on nonhistorical you better be praying to the RNG gods lol

[@ondrajankuj156]

Well... when i read the title I thought the video will be infinite.

[@TheStonewall117]

Lowkey surprised the USSR didn't crush Germany when it was struggling so badly through most of the video.

[@jayschmidt1009]

Calling the US the fun police is one of the best isorrow lines I’ve heard

[@IianaDRK]

Remember the video where he tried to hunt the pride of the fleet for the achievement, and he just gets it so easily this time

[@WappleFan]

this won’t make us forget what you tweeted, iSlicePreemies

[@JudgeandJuri]

Playing turkey is like being with your family during thanksgiving (For you non Americans/Canadians imagine christmas diner) It's filled with pointless pleasentries, there's lots of arguing, and at the end of it all you just want to nuke everything

[@BoredDomino]

Sounds more like a you problem lmao

[@warthunder7730]

Why are you separated Canadians like that lol

[@IIZCHAOS]

Damn imagine how many genocides this turkey would try.

[@NormalChannel95]

Bring the Rodent 🐭🐭

[@oniki_]

oniki reference!?1/1 3:11

[@Oniki1y]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@monariza.]

Oniki means "12" in Turkish

[@Diamond_Brony]

The point is, Turkey is the country no one ever plays, since realistically Luxembourg is higher in the list of the choices for playable countries than Turkey for 99.99 players anyway... The point is, since no one plays Turkey, no one really does any of the paths, so.... You could do anything, really.

[@Shellslime]

"Band-aid"? What will his majesty think of such Americanisms?!

[@zedgy3559]

Day 424 demanding ISP to form Mongolian empire with generic focus tree and minimal mods.

[@beeschurgergaming]

YOU PROMISED US THE SULTANATE #GIVEUSAUSSA

[@Turkish_natonilist]

As a turkish person i do not support the paradox devs THEY butcherd our country

[@kolikolikolikolikolikolikoliko]

#1 TÜRKIYE OF THE WORLD 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@Verfection.]

@@kolikolikolikolikolikolikoliko RAAAAAAA WHAT IS ARMENIA

[@jimtalbott9535]

Turkey combined with UK, Mexico, and the USA and Canada. Imagine the FOOD. They’ll have mini burgers on sticks, covered with spices ole gravy and cheese curds. They’ll call it Kaburtene.

[@that1guy975]

I'm gonna say it: I enjoy the Turkish and Greek focus trees. Crucify me all you want, I shall die on this hill.

[@kogz295]

Isp never fails to torture himself

[@dozer7412]

Stop feeding me your baklava Daddy. I don't enjoy that chewy texture.

[@DroidDeca_]

Why must your torture us with this turkey content even though you know we can turn it off anytime you know we wont

[@ebenmoore9770]

I can't believe this series is almost over.

[@P1kaSans]

suffering cheese man gobbles up an entire türkiye!

[@Alex-xh9wo]

The HOI4 will continue until morale improves

[@chaseforrer532]

Lazy town mod for nostalgia November

[@SayoriReal]

Navy only soviet union when

[@70blaziken]

Thats how you play it!

[@LikeGG]

Next series: World conquest to Z

[@manutron2010]

TNO is inevitable.

[@whitehawk4099]

Wouldn't be surprised if he does TFR in the next bit.

[@whiteelephant3673]

This one was pretty good, quite interesting)

[@aquablue666]

Remember to pray to papi sorrows 🙏 and fill your chalice with Timmy’s favorite juice. OJ. And enjoy it 🎉

[@tvqh]

Thanks god the "rat" spamming finally stopped.

[@whitehawk4099]

😢

[@perpotet4629]

Rat

[@Verfection.]

YOU FOOL, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT NOW THERE WILL BE 5 MORE VIDEO'S SPAMMED ABOUT RATS

[@Ismael_Malikshahi]

If they make the entire focus tree 35 day it will actually be enjoyable

[@lordvader9712]

Try Age of History 3 now, it's just released, it's like EU4, Vic2 and AoH2 combined.

[@Puckpatato]

I preffer to be called Mr.timothy-timothethem-III mr sorrow

[@nathanielrourke8886]

the 90s oof.

[@chungus_yoshi]

I am finally hiped for a new dlc in a long time

[@charlescarson4337]

When you did the Soviets, you should have just done the Red Navy focuses instead of army or industry

[@doctorwhat779]

Turkish tree is not the best sure but I think it is overhated, you can work with it if you try to do

[@vikki2702]

FINALLY THE TURKEY VIDEO

[@GGwasheree]

if it had shorter focus times it wouldve been good also Turkey mentioned!!!!!! wtf is a good economy!!!!!

[@Paya-hx6eu]

it’s so hard to get industrialized as turkey

[@NiffelTower]

how are you so good at making the worst paths look fun

[@larsreckert5423]

Turkey feels like Kaiserreich.

[@Alexvondark]

Well, Turkey is an interesting development ✋🏻👑🙂‍↕️

[@roxen4]

meanwhile i have 3 thousand hours playing with turkey

[@DumbCup]

Playing anarchist Spain rn winning

[@LiveLoveClams]

So How's it going?

[@sciencer9830]

you didnt have fun, you just fell for the stockholm syndrome

[@agoutisauvage8698]

turan 💀💀💀💀💀

[@Wahsteinious]

March of the Eagles A-Z when

[@willywonka6487]

Your so wrong, its one of the best with double focus speed mod (player only gets double speed) lots of flexibility and options and some brokenly OP stuff like the compliance gain

[@koir9596]

The rats under the skin are still there isp...

[@cadzilla]

worst nation, oh we're playing Denmark

[@robertmowrey2009]

Nah fam, it’s all about that hype for Barfs of Iron 5. No combat and no focus trees mmmmmm

[@borisf6294]

Did you know that Turkey was the main character in WW2?

[@La_Royalicia]

Play age of history 3 it’s like hoi but better maybe

[@ahmethakantozlu1389]

Will we have a New focus tree to Turkey with that middle east pack dlc? Pls say yes

[@emilsoderman3691]

While I don't *like* the Turkish focus tree, Turkey is sitll more fun than New Zeeland.

[@TheRavenLord1]

Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 100