Votann vs Tau. Who has the mightier big gun? Warhammer 40k in 40m

[@nickfroese]

T’au Nick here. Ooof. Sorry I messed up the wall of mirrors stratagem. Was used to how it worked in the old codex. Will get it right next time.

[@cakeless8486]

Nick , I love you but Why were you playing aggressive with Borkan with Kauyon ?

[@leestauffenecker6227]

No worries! It was an honest mistake

[@nickfroese]

@@cakeless8486 I know. I know. I couldn’t do it.

[@ZiggyStardunk]

Heartening as a new player when experts can still make mistakes lol

[@derricksmith8354]

I've made that same mistake so many times this season!

[@Slapdab]

Honestly, the editing makes these watchable. I want a 40k battle, but I don’t want to spend 3 hours watching it.

[@JohnDoe-zl6qw]

And that's the unfortunate reality of it. Take away the sharp editing and special effects and the game devolves into a 3-hour snoozefest of dice rolling and tape measuring. In a sense, these videos give a false impression of the game. Don't get me wrong, I think what the Play On Tabletop crew does is very entertaining; it's just not an accurate representation of the actual game play. That's not a criticism of Play On Tabletop but, rather, an indictment of the 40K game itself. If Games Workshop could figure out how to make their game leaner, more dynamic, and engaging rather than catering to a small minority of OCD, micro-managing, dice-rollers who would make Roboute Guilliman himself seem laid-back by comparison, maybe they could appeal to a broader audience.

[@bombarded15]

@@JohnDoe-zl6qw it's not OCD to have complex rules and stats in a strategy game. People who enjoy 40k don't feel like its a slog to roll dice and see what happens. And sure, a hex grid or something would speed up movement and take out any cover/line of sight debates, but it's easier to freely move models of different sizes around a 3d board for a more immersive display

[@okdef5963]

@@JohnDoe-zl6qw I'd say that's the direction Killteam seems to be moving in, at least hopefully

[@MortyrSC2]

@@JohnDoe-zl6qw It's a lot different to watch and to play a game. I can happily spend 3 hours playing tabletop, because I feel involved moving models and doing dice rolls, interacting with the opponent etc. Being a passive watcher for 3 hours tho? Hell no.

[@brendanhess7422]

@@JohnDoe-zl6qw The game is fine when you are playing; editing certainly makes it more fun to WATCH. I'd hate to just watch someone else play any great board or tabletop game.

[@plaguedoctor5145]

The stealth suit pause joke caught me off guard and got a laugh out of me. Good work with the production, fun video!

[@shadowmancy9183]

Did you see the purple orks that infiltrated the game as well?

[@plaguedoctor5145]

@@shadowmancy9183 no cuz purple orks iz da sneakiest orks

[@codyott1982]

Love Tycho's narration. He is perfect. Very interesting, perfect voice for the job, and doesn't over or under explain, doesn't steal the spotlight, but still captures your complete attention.

[@aunderiskerensky2304]

if 40k ever goes mainstream the first two caster spots are Tycho and JT. period. There are other channels that do good battles, but this is the gold standard.

[@josephandian3239]

It made a deep rock reference

[@robnoel9306]

And he doesn't say Gobsmack, Slobberknocker or Boy howdy

[@BDWFsfhew]

Damn production value is already showing, good job guys this is quality

[@Slapdab]

For sure!

[@bombarded15]

The pop-up terrain is a huge step down compared to the usual cinematic tables, and it's just wide open firing lanes

[@Ezra-UK]

@@bombarded15 It's about reinforcing inclusivity in the hobby. People shouldn't feel like they have to have expensive handcrafted and painted terrain just to be able to play some 40k. The pop-up terrain works fine as a budget option or as they said for people that have less space at home or want something that works well when travelling.

[@sambarnes6283]

@@joheric8886 Why the hell are you watching it if you think this? Bore off.

[@JonathanEleven]

Just a heads up, judging opponents units for holding objectives only happens at the end of the opponent's turn, not at the end of the Votann turn.

[@jtmcdowell2331]

We did actually catch that about 5 minutes later, but it got missed in the edit. Good eye! Almost like...an eye of the ancestors ;)

[@phoenixfire9176]

@@jtmcdowell2331_Grooooaan_

[@jayxeno]

@@jtmcdowell2331 Where did you get your shirt?? It's rad!

[@jtmcdowell2331]

@@jayxeno armorclass10.com. just bought 4 more t-shirts at LVO

[@jayxeno]

@@jtmcdowell2331 Thanks! I just picked up five. I really hope they make more shirts like the Martell one!

[@FireRevanShadow]

I have been wanting a votann vs tau game for a while now. I think not being farsight hurt here. The problem with kauyon is that you need to stay alive to do stuff for turns 3, 4, and 5 and that can be very difficult against an aggressive army. Votann are pretty aggressive and generally pressure the kauyon player. In the end Mont'ka is the true philosophy of the tau. I am here to continue the campaign to request Tau Nick vs GS Nick vs Guard Nick! Think of all the sound effects! Hopefully, narrated by Nick. Maybe Tau Nick vs Rebel Nick in either star wars legion or 40k game with custom rules for factions.

[@zachnoland155]

Kayoun redeploy is invaluable and Borkan is by far the best anti shooting Sept. Votann don't allow rerolls of failed wounds effectively nullifying montka's benefit anyway. Nick played the right strategy but the dice said no and Votann already were the much stronger army

[@ArbitraryLiberator]

The Battle of the Nicks. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

[@nklinef]

The Montka warlord trait makes it worth it over Kauyan if you can alpha strike hard enough, which realistically you have to do before the enemy gets in charge range. It also frees you up to take a second dakka Commander over Shadowsun because the extra firepower is necessary.

[@zachnoland155]

@@nklinef void armor nullifies exemplar of montka. No wound rerolls

[@nklinef]

@@zachnoland155 oh ok, makes sense then in this match up. But in every other match up, especially with the removal of armor of contempt. It seems like the clear choice. One power combo I've seen is custom sept +1 S in 12" trait on flamer spam paired with Exemplar of Montka able to melt tanks and heavies on shear weight of wounds.

[@Therail888]

whoever decided on the stealth suit pause joke definitely deserves a high five and a slice of pizza

[@Fire_bellied_Newt_Sorcerer]

I love the kindness displayed by both Nick and JT. Makes me feel comfortable about joining the hobby

[@justinsinke2088]

The matchup I wanted to see, a test of railgun vs railgun. And the railguns did practically nothing between either army. Also man, this is the game of one wound remaining. For all the talk of "the Votann are slow", they do seem to get up the table in matches. "So now you've paused just to read this" Well played Play On, well played.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

Well there IS a reason why they got nerfed on release. They aint slow at all.

[@wyatttyson7737]

They are """slow""" because their standard movement is 5" rather than 6". I really feel like the people who keep going on and on about how slow they are really are just coping due to the fact that Votann really are as broken as everyone has heard they are, even with the day 1 nerfs.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

@@wyatttyson7737 cope indeed, fucking hell, the fact that they are slow is completely negated by everything else, it was as if Tau were said to be fragile to compensate for their shooting yet they were as toigh as custodes, and Tau have 2 major flaws, only that melee is mitigated by a stratagem that osts you a CP. Votanns MEDIOCRE movement is completely negated by the rest of their abilities and fighting phases, also they are not really that slow, heck, they are still faster than Nurgle forces including death guard!!!!! And that factions only upside is durability!!! Votanns have great shooting, durability and melee, wtf is this balancing?!

[@ArbitraryLiberator]

Seeing the guys' models in the intros always makes me envious of their skills but inspires me to keep coming back to the work table to hone my own painting skill. Same goes for the sportsmanship and fun you guys always put on display for us. Thanks for always being wonderful and a special thanks to Nick for inspiring me to dive head first into the hobby as Tau player. You guys rock!

[@Seneca911]

Doubt they paint them

[@ArbitraryLiberator]

@@Seneca911 Everyone that plays has their own armies. Some have had friends of the show that appear as guests come on and paint an army for the occasion. Other times they get sent paints from sponsors and show them off by painting armies with them before using them for an episode. At least, that's what I've gathered 🤷‍♂️

[@cango8415]

Your effects getting even better! That thumbnail looks amazing.

[@alessandrorottigni4403]

Didn't think it was possibile, but you took it up a big notch. Damn guys! Amazing batrep, editing, presentation, everything!

[@matiasyannuzzi9655]

"They've stolen my rail weapons!" Pretty sure they had those magna-rail weapons when the T'au ancestors were still in the primordial soup. Besides, in lore the Kin taught the T'au how to make and use ion weapons.

[@ccreations5120]

You guys sparked my love for Warhammer and inspired me to create my own army

[@TravelerMastermind]

The production quality of your vids is simply so far above most of the other battle reports on KZbin, it is amazing. Also, congratz to the Space Dwarves. ROCK AND STONE, BROTHERS!

[@nak3dxsnake]

Finding easy ways to make buildings has become a new obsession of mine and those pop-up versions are sweet. Would be so great to keep in a kit and have an easy ready launch game in so many scenarios.

[@DrDirtyBird]

I absolutely love the dynamic between everyone on this channel. You guys are so funny and light-hearted. Keep up the amazing work lads!

[@Gojira1744]

Awesome game again from you all. Always nice to see JT make an appearance in a game! Very strategic player.

[@TabletopTitans]

So pumped for this!

[@jetflaque8187]

*Its amazing Nick did not throw in the T'auwel*

[@blakehensley2217]

😂😭

[@nightlordnorris4446]

It's my headcanon that this is now on the Tau Melee weapon list (it's a short list tbf): *The T'auwel* 😂😂

[@m.c7083]

Hey guys, I love the pacing of this video. I think the mix of narration and the commentary is a good balance it keeps it very interesting. You guys keep getting better and better!

[@LeftyRedd]

Great game. That was wonderful sportsmanship from JT when Nick was gonna do the ignore invulnerable save ability. :)

[@FemboyDisciples2]

25:31 ROCK AND STONE!

[@dondongman]

This makes me want LoV vs GSC more because of tokens vs tokens

[@mantradox]

Great episode! Thanks a lot, guys, such an awesome delivery, easily the best batrep channel/format on KZbin! Question - you boys planning some boarding actions?

[@coledibiase5971]

This channel is awesome. The content isn't exactly bingeable, I've had my fill after 1 video, but its perfectly presented, and the editing is perfect, everything is perfect. Always interesting to listen to, love watching it, great for when I have work to do and need something to help pass the time on. Great content.

[@TheTachyonLad]

Nick is the person who inspired me to start playing 40k, but more importantly, to play in the name of the greater good and railgun the sh*t out of everything. Great video, hoping to see more!

[@xenonsean7050]

1:49 I wanted to leave a like on the video after reading that edit, only to realize I already liked the video 😁

[@Morathiiii]

The editing is incredible on these videos. Its very nice of you to use the pop up terrain, now you can place it in the recycle bin where it belongs tho :)

[@runesmith1373]

Straight facts it was so shit

[@ginnungagaplemniscates1405]

Been wanting to see more Tau vs Votann. THE CONTENT GODS SMILE UPON THIS FIELD OF BATTLE.

[@Harcellion]

Pretty neat 3d effect for the deployment area when showing off the mission and objectives at the beginning

[@killahertz7124]

Great game, wonderful watch! Good to see Arks in action! Couple of issues on Tau redeploy, Exemplar of Kauyon outside of Tau sept only allows Shadowsun to redeploy TAU SEPT units as she's not BORKAN. Also Devilfish doesn't get pregame move in Kauyon, it gets the ability to hop into reserves if its near a board edge. Well played all around!

[@Reesily]

Love the stealth suits picture in the intro. So camouflaged they completely blend in

[@texanjoecoffeehouse8141]

Yes...yes I did. I did pause the video just to read that.

[@Aliashavoc]

Now explosions are great.. but man was I screaming at my screen for JT to use his iron-master to repair the Hekaton !!

[@williamculverwell7738]

Man, love this content! Quality is better than ever, can’t wait to see as the studio gets more upgrades!

[@Devianreal]

Oh, finally. I was waiting for JT to get real and teach this fishlings what is true undeniable power is. Amazing game!

[@kylefindlay8411]

Awesome video guys! If your open to suggestions I have one good one and a few confirming ones that you have covered already. The one idea, is a two parter but it builds on both principles. Adding a complimentary glow, aka a color that directly works with the background, or game mat, when a character or vehicle or anything fires, also brighter effects when firing, like make them glow like they all had tracers!! I had a hard time seeing where the shots were coming from, often having to rewind to see the effect and angle as well. Otherwise, narrating where units are going if the players do not, yes, large dice for Cmd points, yes, Tycho, yes, Nick having his rail gun blow up in his face, yes (but not in a mean way, just, you know, SPLOSIONS!!), JT's innuendos, yes. Background difference instead of table and minis, yes. Great video!

[@cook279]

That stealth suit secret message stunned me for multiple turns.

[@Shorkshire]

I paused the video. I giggled. You got me. I love you guys 🤣

[@ozzyjordan8946]

At first i was like "DANG! NO J.T. NARRATION!? WHAT IS PLAYON COMING TO!" Then i saw he was playing and i calmed right down! The child of CHAOS is a great narrator, but i fell in love with the amazing voice of the one and only J.T.

[@jtmcdowell2331]

Aw, I'm blushing

[@joshuameyer3686]

I love watching how other people play 40k since my wife and I are new to Warhammer. It's hard to watch other channels because they are to long and filled with extra banter. Your videos are editing to a perfect consumption size while still having all the important info provided. Please keep them coming

[@tortollaa7148]

The new editing is amazing. Keep up the good work guys!!!

[@TotallyPointlessTV]

These videos are top notch guys, keep it up

[@epicmediocrity2603]

That table graphic, at the start, really hit the yum yum spot. 🙏🤩💥

[@Calebary]

What an absolutely delightful game. I could watch JT and Nick just talk about their girthy railguns all day. Thanks for this, I loved it.

[@thefloridaman41]

Great game and great sportsmanship. Loved this battle. And as always a support comment for Chaos Daemons. My favorite army.

[@dinkledord7026]

classic Florida Man: worships chaos

[@McBane.]

1:49 "stealth suits" hahahaha brilliant!

[@ivan_says_hi]

Amazing battle! I am terrified of those tau railguns! I feel like if Nick had a more competitive list he would have destroyed the Votann no problems! Even with the horrible dice rolls it was a really close game. If one or two of those key dice rolls went the other way for either player I feel that this game could have ended with one side completely tabled.

[@Polar87]

Damn Tycus " Child of CHAOS " did a hell of a paint job on those Votann, like I love that orange and how it pops xD

[@alphajank8052]

Hey I wanted to say I realize that JT was using the books 2 shots per bolt cannon on the hekaton. They actually changed it to be 3 per bolt cannon in an FAQ. Just wanting him to be using the hekachonk at full

[@josephreyalcala8798]

That stealth suit joke got me. Hahaha

[@cjwoulard]

Yes!!!!! I love your Tau videos! Please more!

[@christerprestberg3973]

The longer i look the more I start to think that this episode should be named "and X survives with 1 wound!" ^^

[@garylingenfelter4111]

Imperial Guard Nick is Mighty.

[@IzzysBuisness]

Just a heads up on the redeployment with "exemplar of kauyon" on shadowsun, you can only redeply "Tau sept" units, so because you are play borkan the only unit you'd be able to redeploy is shadowsun herself Edit: i just realized unless of course I suppose exemplar of kauyon was on the ethereal

[@swaythly]

You know things got real when JT’s cap spins the right way around!!!

[@Hallow_the_fur]

1:31 oi what do ya mean? The Votann gave you yer Rail guns and ion cannons. THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK

[@Skitselz]

Loving the new backgrounds, huge huge huge improvement that I didn’t even know we needed

[@enricolunelli9039]

ROCK AND STONE FOREVEEEER!!!!

[@RushGamma]

ROCK AND STONE!

[@Gudni_TH]

Did i hear a Rock and Stone

[@zebcas7337]

FOR KARL!

[@RushGamma]

@@zebcas7337 FOR KAHL

[@michaelbrodeur7506]

IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE YOU AINT COMING HOME

[@Mazzy774i]

These videos make me want to get into 40k tabletop

[@nak3dxsnake]

I already wanted to but these help me feel like I will have a grasp of things once its time to sit down and learn my army.

[@sniperlemming]

😀 My 2 favorite armies!!! Thanks for doin this game guys, this was one of my favorites!.

[@BoisegangGaming]

Vanquisher Gunner in the Land Fortress: "Don't worry, I've got this!" The rest of the Kyn in the land fortress: ._.

[@TamashiiSenpai]

those terrain look amazing i may have to put in an order this payday also amazing video as always!

[@thijsv948]

In an alternate universe (spoiler-free): You did it! You really are the Railgun 40k

[@MrOK-fx2ep]

The new presentation looks absolutely great!

[@bmuzza5897]

I must admit - I went back and paused the video exact at the point you would expect... As always - well done folks.

[@jermainereyem7635]

Vibing heavy with this episode's Industrial music! 🎸🤖

[@nickk964]

Wow I love those Voltann in that paint scheme... seriously making me want to buy and paint some

[@guerillanextdoor]

Amazing job guys. Best TT game production on youtube.

[@charlesbush4063]

“Victory to the Diggy Diggy Holes” nice Wind Rose reference.

[@Deadwarrior000]

I mean Wind Rose just covered the song they didn't write it.

[@m3nacingsquash989]

Uncut 😂 So they are mammals! I got you Nick 😉

[@shaneskelton9625]

Awesome video editing guys!

[@e21big]

Finally, the 'don't split fire mantra' came to bite. Nick might not have lost his Hammerhead, had he threw everything into that diggin truck with just one wound remaining

[@CastellanCrowe]

Love the video. Every time you guys split fire I roll my eyes, the hekaton should’ve just either shot all the small arms into the fire warriors or into the devil fish to 100% confirm the kill, split firing working in those cases is very low, it’s high risk high reward and I guess it makes for better content but I think it never works out especially when important targets need to go down. Keep up the great videos!

[@firemaneminiatures1337]

Hecka-chonk Land Tortoise has entered the chat

[@andrewjohnson4816]

Loved the stealth suit shot in the beginning!

[@alexsmith8240]

My two favorite armies!! It's so cool to see the Votann on the board again, and always awesome to see Nick play T'au!

[@barazo1011]

JT noooo! "uncut"... roflmao! That was great and the edit done perfect lol!

[@billybroschkus1102]

Nice game, really fun to watch and great sportsmanship! Just one little thing, Nick has to play Shadowsun more often and get to know her better. She can't be targeted as long as some other unit is closer to the shooting unit, so JT made some shots he shouldn't have.

[@jtmcdowell2331]

Actually when the hammerhead blew up I'm pretty sure her advanced shield drone was destroyed.

[@billybroschkus1102]

@@jtmcdowell2331 Ok, that explains it! So when do you guys play a 2v2 with the "should be allies" t'au and Votann?

[@jtmcdowell2331]

@@billybroschkus1102 oooh that would be interesting! Let nick go all close combat and me all shooty; really reverse the roles!

[@billybroschkus1102]

@@jtmcdowell2331 I think it would definitely be a fun game!

[@punintended6145]

Did JT miss the Brokhyr healing on the Land Fortress in turn two?

[@jtmcdowell2331]

Yes and no; I was actually hoping it was going to be a mortal wound missile rofl

[@Clasteau]

Hey, @PlayOnTabletop, what is an army we haven't seen much that you guys are wanting to hit the table here? Particular chapter, or Daemon Lord, or whatever faction leaders?

[@GundamReviver]

I gotta say, those pop up terrain sponsors are cool.

[@RevanR]

This is certified el classico match

[@B4D4617f]

The terrain is really nice! Last game I played we used the same set! I was very surprised by it!

[@jtmcdowell2331]

Right? Fantastic and easy to set up and use

[@mohastgridlock]

Didn't your sponsor allegedly get sued for ripping off another project's design wholesale?

[@Tyrnak_Fenrir]

Low scoring games are somehow more fun to watch since they're always neck in neck, every single point counts. Rock and stone!!!

[@ER0JIJI]

Never split fire!!

[@PsychicAlchemy]

I know Tau name their vehicles after fish, but where did the idea come from that Tau themselves are fish people? They have hooves and perform live birth. One would presume they're more like mammals.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Thank you!

[@shnuff5053]

Who has the best guns? Psh, the Guard, obviously.

[@eggbinary]

Man it feels dirty to play against Votann

[@Dragon_Fyre]

At the end of the day, the better Railgun is the one that is not rolling 1s.

[@dantdu]

Great manner moment from Voltann player around 17:00 .

[@rathstar]

Another awesome battle report. Keep up the great work guys ! What does Nick think lost it for him ? Did he think he was a bit too aggressive turns 1 & 2, there was just too much Votann left when he came out aggressively turn 2 ? I liked his flexible list, a nicely rounded and balanced list.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

I misplayed a few things. Should have been more cagey. And forgot to use the strike and fade ability. Would have made a huge difference

[@Skedaddle_Skanoodle]

That fundraising campaign is already showing itself off. Love the new effects

[@stax6092]

YAS, Votann. Go Space Dwarves. ROCK & STONE! Also Nick, Tau can't have better RailGuns than the Votann cause they got their RailGuns from the Votann. You silly Fish Man.

[@Dodexus]

1:49 ... Damnit

[@dogwithnobones906]

43:40 IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE YOU AIN'T COMING HOME!

[@Wildwolface77]

Hmmm.... I need to watch more of these videos before I could decide which army I could go as my second faction..... Otherwise, it was a magnificent match from both players. Cheers to you both