PlayStation Backtracks Helldivers 2 PSN Account Requirement

Helldivers 2 has had it's worst weekend ever. In this video I go over all the Helldivers 2 Drama that happened over the weekend as well as the resolution we got earlier this morning from PlayStation.
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[@zbug84]

"Who knew training an entire playerbase on how to work together towards a common goal for 4 months would backfire against them?"

[@tzoanast1061]

Most important Major Order, completed.

[@yamivalkri]

the playstation network account required tag is still up on the steam page , the may 2nd update page DOESN'T say its been removed simply that they are learning about player preference , NOTHING is changed except a REVIEW SCORE FOR THEIR UPCOMING INVESTORS CALL by people taking a twitter post as solid evidence, until the PSN required tag on the helldivers 2 page is removed and an update clearly stating it wont require PSN on steam im not changing my negative review im not falling for twitter crap that can be reneged on without consequence.

[@tzoanast1061]

@@yamivalkri Without consequence? If they move back to the PSN requirement they're done, they're gonna have the biggest gaming controversy known to man. They're not pulling it back. The steam page not being changed is because the news literally just dropped today, you cant just snap your fingers and change a steam page.

[@yamivalkri]

@@tzoanast1061 what do you mean move back to it , they havent removed it at all. looking at the just refreshed helldivers 2 steam store page, and the update page no PSN requirement has been removed at all

[@Talcor]

Don't forget the Minor Order, if you changed your review to negative in order to get sony to backtrack dont forget to change it back to positive if you want to.

[@MeltonCrest]

No.

[@Radec_G]

Till they actually do something aside that twwtr post, like you know, remove the account requirements and bring back the game to the banned countries

[@Talcor]

Well thats why i said if you want

[@Talcor]

@@Radec_G yeah, i imagine itll take a day or two for steam to relist it

[@pjmack177]

Agreed, but most are quick to jump on the hate train.. slow to get off. First person who responded to you is one of 'em.

[@oscarshedwick4862]

All sony had to do was say "hey want a free comsetic to link your accout?" And no one would have cared. Instead they fucked around and found out.

[@Xepent]

Exactly. A cape with the triangle square circle and X would have gone hard

[@duross101]

I don't think that's true

[@Premium_Jelly]

That’s true that would’ve been the optimal play

[@_Rackham]

People not being able to play because they live in the wrong countries wouldn't be fixed by a cape. what a dumb thing to say.

[@thestash0078]

​@_Rackham I think they meant not making the linking required, but giving it as a insensitive to do it

[@zeroarts7623]

How crazy that it went from overwhemingly negative to very negative to now mixed lmao.

[@KujoTenshi]

holy crap, it is back to mixed, damn that was fast

[@zeroarts7623]

@@KujoTenshi back to positive in overall. Recent is mixed due to some countries still being locked out from buying

[@DragonXZero]

I swear Sony is an expert of shooting itself on the shoot in the most massive way imaginable

[@cordeliacentauri1737]

Game is so good we have a campaign in real life. 10/10 - From Steam review

[@Marioshrooms]

"There's no way ANYBODY would be this dumb!" Sony: Allow us to introduce ourselves.

[@Arc.Knight]

Tremendous W. We can only hope the community heals back to how it was before this all happened.

[@Dracobyte]

I hope that too!!

[@dante8506]

It doesn't matter on what plataform or planet you are in, when I land on that planet no diver is left behind!!!!

[@nuke2099]

Except Sony did the same thing after with Ghosts of Tsushima. So is it really a W?

[@Arc.Knight]

@@nuke2099 Yes, it is. Although I agree with your point, I'm talking about Helldivers 2, not Ghost of Tsushima.

[@nuke2099]

@@Arc.Knight I know you're talking about Helldivers 2.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

Sony felt the insurmountable might of the Helldivers!

[@Gharon]

Great to see that every once in a while these big corpos will actually listen if the backlash is severe enough. Now we need also band together and revert the negative reviews and get the game back to an overall positive rating. All that's left otherwise is Steam re-enabling the sales in all regions.

[@Xepent]

Once they actually go through with it

[@VattoBr]

Trust is easy to lose and hard to build.

[@danyelrod7]

PS5 gamer here, I was rooting for PC players from the beginning. In our Victory, I purchased the original Helldivers in support.

[@OD91MJ]

I never expected Sony to cave. I bet it meant a lot of money changing hands somewhere. Sony took some sort of payoff to relent.

[@Michael-ex8lk]

Steam probably slapped their PP after they started giving out refunds.

[@VampLord-im9pp]

People unsubscribe Sony to free Stellar Blade Sony decide to make 💩bag move decision Also Sony: *surprise Pikachu face*

[@brettd4857]

Major Order completed. New Order: Change them reviews.

[@48cxy2]

I find it funny how people in the west who hate sony call the company soyny; soy + sony. In Japan, they call the company, kusony; kuso(garbage/shitty) + sony. And now in Helldivers, the company is called Snoy. Get bent sony!

[@25xxfrostxx]

Helldivers 1 peaked at 6700 players on steam. Likely a bit higher than that on Playstation (It initially released on PS3). In the case of the community managers... I have worked in customer/client facing roles where I represent my employer and am expected to defuse and control situations where customers or clients are upset. If I behaved the way their CMs have toward customers, my employer may not blame me on a personal level but they would absolutely fire me while being right to do so. Not to mention the CM openly (and completely falsely) claiming that Grummz s3xually assaulted multiple co-workers (this is called Libel) along with other accusations, the doubled down when pressed. The team needs to be repopulated.

[@anubrakahn2970]

It can't be underestimated how well received this game is. I love it. It has a $10 per month battle pass and everyone's like "yeah it's fine! We still love it!"

[@tzoanast1061]

It doesnt rly though. I've gotten all of them for free because you can just grind the currency easily.

[@anubrakahn2970]

@tzoanast1061 Sure. And it only takes about an hour with 4 people exploiting (which will be parched). But that's super boring. Otherwise, you just can't stop playing. If you never stop playing, youll be able to get the 1,000 sc through natural gameplay after a couple of weeks. But, put the game down for a couple of months and come back when you're 2 or 3 war bonds behind. You have to either grind for weeks or... just pay a little money. These aren't for cosmetics, either.

[@tzoanast1061]

@@anubrakahn2970 I earned my super credits very easily and without any sort of intentional grinding, ever. Now yes I've probably played more than the average individual cause I have had a lot of free time lately for personal reasons but it was still very easy. If you come late into a game, which is actually something thats gonna happen to me cause I'll be away for military service for 9 months and I'm gonna lose a lot of updates, then yeah it makes sense that you'd need to grind for the warbonds, I dont find that weird personally and it doesnt bother me.

[@Moankeymage]

@@anubrakahn2970 right. Great concept. casuals with money can come back and catch up, More hardcore players are free and make sure there is always an alive game for the casuals to come back too. Live service done right.

[@alphawolf8995]

I get about 1000sc a month just by playing normally

[@dragonboyexz]

Unless there is cross save I don't see the point linking acc cause i am under impression you will need to buy console and pc version seperately to on both in first place.

[@CiromBreeze]

The devs have said they will add cross-save in the future.

[@IronLordEXO]

As far as I'm aware, purchase is still restricted on Steam for certain countries, so nothing's changed and this isn't the win everyone thinks it is

[@adrianocs4]

Steam did the change not Sony, they got bombarded whith refund requests and did the obvious thing. It will stay blocked for a good time.

[@coderaccoon6061]

Thanks for posting an updated video. So many ppl made news on the controversy with Sony but have failed to make an update to the pullback so people who are seeing these videos are thinking its still happening.

[@thunderchicken6438]

Sony decided to poke the hellbomb with a stick.

[@chitin122]

Seeing democracy in action is refreshing, because this shit rarely happens in real life where government doesn't care what the people think and continue to cater to special interests and line their pockets. Ironically the game about "managed democracy" has a more democratic system than real life democracy.

[@Thevikingninja117]

We did it everyone! We won!

[@Noctula]

Positive steam review delivered. For democracy and liberty! For Super Earth!

[@channingeastman2863]

Round of applause to the community and how you all fought back to reverse this.

[@jaegerjaquez1944]

his face reminds me of Will Sasso from Mad TV so i subscribed

[@mortexia]

Hi Ruri, FYI while we don't really know who ask steam to retroactively delist the game as technically steam could have done it on their own, we do know one of Sony's responses to being in a PSN unsupported region "PSN requires users to register in their country or territory of residence. Individuals who are traveling, working, or studying abroad may create an account in a country or territory different from the one in which they are currently located" AKA illegally make an account in another country by violating Term 2.5 of their TOS of "Truthful" information

[@ifrit1937]

Let's be clear the main reason they backtracked is because the biggest issue is that they sold the game in countries that don't have PSN access thus by making it required everywhere, including those countries, would likely break one or more trade laws in those 120+ countries if no exception was made for them (which if they did tons of players would likely make alt accounts from said countries and use VPNs to get around that and that would be a red flag as it'd be obvious if tons of players suddenly come from said countries and sifting through those that are really from said countries from those not from said countries would be annoying as fuck and take tons of cash and time to do) which could lead to not only individual and class action lawsuits but likely even lawsuits against the government from said countries as well (and while Sony can use delay tactics on individual and class actions until the other party gives up they won't be able to against a country as the country has unlimited cash via taxes as well as can just tell them no you can't delay anymore, we're finishing this up now you had enough time to make a case and you failed to do so'). The moment that Sony dropped this requirement (technically option as they didn't even make it needed on launch as their EULA said it was optional on release) they should've given up this idea and if they wanted it mandatory they never should've released and made sure Steam didn't legally let people buy the game in said country from the start (granted it'll piss fans off though and is a stupid move imo that will kill any goodwill towards the company if anyone has any goodwill for Sony). The other big issue is supposedly if Sony was to ban you on Helldivers via the PSN account they may also be able to ban your Steam account as a whole (I don't really paly on Steam/PC (my computer's 10 years old and can't really play modern games) and don't link Sony to it for the few games I played so I'm not really sure if this is true or just BS some people are spouting online) which is also a huge amount of BS...if they want to ban them from the game/PSN fine, but from another company's launcher Sony shouldn't have that possible control over your non PSN accounts. I will also criticize Arrowhead for teaming up with Sony under these requirements (should've just said piss off to Sony imo and gave up the IP and made a new IP since Sony owns the Helldivers IP if I'm right...Sony may have been big in the PS4 era but they're quickly becoming more obsolete especially with the push for digital (physical is the only reason I'd consider buying a PS5 right now so if they ever drop physical I'll drop console for PC completely even if consoles are a bit easier to deal with due to not needing to switch/look up computer parts for a PC and don't cost as much as a PC most of the time) as well as for how their community managers acted (which was unacceptable imo). I will also say Steam's also accountable for allowing these games to be sold (at least legally...if players find a workaround and use it and later get banned well it's not really Steam's fault in that regard...well legally anyway) in these countries without PSN or having some pop up at the moment of checkout when buying a game stating that you would need a PSN/some third party account to access the game (imo all games that have a third party account should have a popup on purchase that states something like: "Note this game requires/may require a 3rd party account to play the game. Please make sure you're willing to make an account with said service before buying the game as if you buy the game after acknowledging this warning you will not get refunded for this issue if you do not want to make a 3rd party account for said game." and even then I'd say Steam should require all of these 3rd party games should either have a Require or Doesn't Require a third party account and no in between so BS like this situation cannot happen again as customers will clearly know what they're getting into as they buy the game). As for changing negative reviews to positive...I say no. If you change it than change it to mixed review scores at most and no more and make sure you leave a review detailing the issues you have with the game, what you liked, and clearly state you cannot push it to positive as this situation never should've happened to begin with...at best it should be somewhat Positive and no more (never overwhelmingly positively after this debacle). Granted this is my opinion on the issue when games do moronic things like (same sentiment would apply to games like Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky as both launched horribly even though nowadays they're doing good, granted I never played them or Helldivers either (not into shooters and all have shooter focused combat systems), all of these games that do something dumb either on launch or later on shouldn't every have a near perfect score as they released in a way that shouldn't deserve such a reception and it shows the company is willing to release games in a half assed state/with controversy which we shouldn't accept).

[@BerialPhantom]

RIP remnant 2s little bro, you will be missed

[@jlstruyde]

No, currently... wouldn't that means not at the moment meaning it is subject to change...

[@SteelValkyrie202]

In the UK you now need to provide a phone number and/or some form of facial recognition to create a new account. A few months back I got a message saying as such even though I've had a PSN account for ages so, no it's not that simple at all. Edit: Also, Sony hasn't actually the best track record for good security when it comes to data (they've been hacked quite a number of times) so it's no wonder people were sceptical of Sony's reasons for doing this (keeping people safe from "harassment" etc).

[@ramadhanbenny6640]

Miners of DRG and Alpha Team of EDF congratulate our comrades in Helldivers

[@Galmir_]

So this looks clearly like a business move, which is notoriously oblivious of what make gamers tick as they are seen as clients to milk. It's the same corporate shit philosophy that had Dragon's Dogma 2 inject those dumb mtx at release. No one of those suits has any idea of what love for a game is.

[@Rogue_Trooper970]

Welcome to PC Sony. I think you understand us a bit better now.

[@juggernaut6666]

think it would have been fine if they just didn't force old accounts to do it. if only new purchases needed it after the update. that would have given them time to delist it in countries where you can't have a psn account. why it was ever being sold in those countries to begin with is beyond stupid.

[@marceloduque3617]

The mastermind Rurikhan have all figure out!! No acounts problems! 🤣👏

[@MrThademon]

Here's whats good for PC players... LET 'EM PLAY THE GODDAMNED GAME THEY PAID FOR!!!

[@vhex61]

I don’t know. Lots of hate to “Sony” because it’s always easy to point to the corporate, but it seems to me more of a dev ceo decision issue. It was all pre planned before launch , took it out, didn’t check what’s possible or not with psn, then now implementing them back , again without checking if there could be any potential issue. To me it looks like a major oversight at least twice by Arrowhead CEO.

[@CRVSE]

Day one, you could skip PSN creating accounts (like all Sony games). ToS/EULA never stated it, Sony support page also said it to be optional since day one. On top of that, one thing is requiring an account when you're actually the one selling and providing everything like Ubisoft, MS, Battlenet and others do on Steam. Another is not doing any of these while also requiring an account without giving anything back and also ignoring the fact that you sold the game to people that would not be able to have the PSN account. Most likely they didnt have it right away for selling purposes and to see how it would fare. After the huge success (and most players playing it from Steam), they decided to do it and boost their PSN numbers right before their next sharehold meeting in june. Also, the CM part, this is basically the only time that companies need their CMs and they receive their money for it. And when Arrowhead needed them the most, they just stoke the fire and run away. Things like this always happens to try to educate people that being a "higher up", "game dev", etc. doesn't exactly mean that you know everything about this better than everyone else. "They know more about the business than you!" and Sony higher ups do something that anyone with a little bit of common sense could see a huge problem.

[@Sinphanius]

I Love the Smell of DEMOCRACY In the Morning.

[@khiemnguyencao4324]

12:40 nice tip

[@arsenii_yavorskyi]

This is why Stop Killing Games campaign is so important - to stop companies from cutting you off after taking your money.

[@dante8506]

The game will heal it just needs love and liber-tea, and remember.....No one can stand against the insurmountable might of the Helldivers!!!

[@worstwordmonger]

All of this happened shortly after I had to log in to an xbox account to play Sea of Thieves on the PlayStation, and I didn’t think it was a big deal. Then Helldivers asked for a psn login and everyone went crazy. It looked to me like people were just overreacting. I wasn’t aware that sony removed the game from many countries as their solution and that’s just uncalled for. That’s the one thing I think people should have been mad about

[@robertarmstrong2323]

CEO said they are working on cross progress

[@Dracobyte]

Good.

[@Filipengra]

agora fiquei tentado em ir comprar o jogo e dar um empurrão para o "overwhelming positive"

[@bobbyhawk8797]

The one thing I didn't understand is one of the countries that can't get a PlayStation account is Japan and I'm like wait a minute isn't it Japan that had the PlayStation account

[@Someone-lg6di]

Might be due to law violation, dont forget sony moved HQ to us and people have been moving away from sony in japan recently

[@bobbyhawk8797]

@@Someone-lg6di they haven't really been moving away from Sony it's still one of the top product people buy in Japan right next to Nintendo

[@Bunnymorphosis]

KUSOny providing safety hahaha

[@VampLord-im9pp]

Sony beings a 💩bag since 2017

[@trlentjr]

Happy Helldiver Independence Day Everyone!

[@kaloifortich4491]

i've already changed my review to positive to help incentivise AH and Sony to keep doing the right thing but if they dont restore the delisted countries soon, im going to change it back to negative in solidarity with the community.

[@pse2020]

or maybe wait untill u understand why those countrys could buy the game... it could be some sort of misstake from sony or even steam... then act.

[@kaloifortich4491]

@@pse2020 fair. will wait until more info.

[@kaloifortich4491]

@@pse2020 that fair.

[@totalwarlock9498]

The biggest issue steam players had with the PSN account is how it requrires a phot of your Government ID and a picture of yourself in some cases and how Sony gets its PSN hacked annually and millions of people get their data stolen its amazing that sony is still a functioning company, and i believe this helldivers situation is far from over because it could have been entirely avoided and sony doesnt learn from their mistakes and will try something stupid in the future with this game or another

[@FuDiggity]

Wish Pokemon fans would...nevermind.

[@thebluePumpking]

lol

[@tonyhacker5980]

Sad but true lol

[@aesopdotts866]

I left SONY entirely back in 2019/2020 during the Anthem debacle. Sony refused to refund my money for a game that was broken from the start. I was a lifetime Sony guy from 12 I had a PS1 all the way to PS4. I gave them thousands upon thousands of dollars over the years, and left a $2000 library behind when I switched to steam. BEST Gaming decision I ever made! I will never go back to that company.

[@Dracobyte]

Always remember to vote with your wallet!

[@Ioreck]

"Cross save progress," Yeah, we bought the game on PS5 for my wife to play while I'm on PC. I logged on to my PSN account to see if I could play my character on the PS5 version but... Nope. then what is the point of linking the account?!

[@GSyh-si4yg]

If they don't reinstate the other contries to buy this game again, i view this has just another delay than a proper backtrack

[@hadrielstriker]

1 people 1 super earth For the 177 we must show our worth For us all to see victory Bringing them home must be our priority Untill they are home we must not rest Because fighting for whats right is what we do best If the 177 are not home i will not dive alone Helldivers one and all We dive together or not at all

[@radwanx]

I love how everyone from every corner of youtube from you to Asmongold to Criticaldrinker is picking up on this.

[@EuropaTelesBTR]

Never take a mans bread, never take a mans entertainment. Like the Romans said: "Bread and games"

[@Anterak11]

The backlash should have been anticipated even more considering this game likely attracted a lot of non-PlayStation gamers (especially XBOX gamers) that will balk at being forced to create an account for a console they don't want to own, several weeks after the launch of the game. So many companies making brand-tarnishing decisions in the last few years... 🤷‍♂ executive greed strikes again?

[@vinnieg007]

Trust is a very hard thing to gain back. Sony can change their decision anytime.

[@matthewcharles9813]

I think helldivers 1 peak was like 10 to 16k peak.

[@quipsilvervr]

They should absolutely make that into a cape. It's a celebration of a time gamers were so strong together that they forced a Corporation to back down. This is what happens when you release a game that creates an army with players having each others back, and then screwing them. I honestly think if the gamers returned their steam reviews back to pre-PSN, it'll show that the Gamers are strong together, but they also have the Developers back and they took their victory with dignity and unification to be an admirable force of good.

[@Srelay1024]

Yea this whole ordeal sucks but what i don't like is review bombing other psn games now and also doing death threats now to that community manager spitz thats f ed up lvls of messed up.

[@Cap_The_Captain]

WOOOOOOOOO F*CK YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[@BeautifulKurumi]

This is what happens when you take $ony's DIRTY MONEY! Square-Enix knows this! (For YEARS NOW!), Shift up knows this, now! This Arrowhead knows this! How many more developers will do the same SHIT!? My god!

[@robertarmstrong2323]

Helldivers 2 was and is awesome game..we will recover

[@Michael-ex8lk]

1. If this account linking was always going to happen then they shouldnt have sold it on steam to countries that cant use PSN. 2. PSN security is garbage and I suspect it could compromise my steam account if it gets hacked. 3. Fuck Sony.

[@Belgariad87]

As soon as this happened i knew HD2 would never really recover. Even aside from just losing trust and not wanting to undo a refund, the gaming community can sometimes be very toxic and like you said, they will rally behind a negative campaign over a positive one most of the time.

[@danmiy12]

sony shot itself in the arm, passed through and also hit arrowheads arm despite it being mostly ps fault. i guess it also passed through and hit stella blade's developers arm as well as psn messed them up too. Who would want to let sony publish their game when these two disasters happen, esp if sony shoots itself in the chest the next time, and it passes through breaking your game as well?

[@Cold_Zero_The_Wise]

Dont give up yet the 177 battalion is still Unjustifiably Court Marshalled and not free, we won the battle not the war.

[@captaincomplain995]

I love the helldivers community

[@ard9941]

Even after the huge controversy these past few days player based never really changed. So I think. They're going to do just fine after Sony's back peddling.

[@TheMrrccava]

Im....shocked actually. Arrowheads community pushed back hard enough at SONY. Hell may have frozen over

[@rekkagaming4086]

Saying that Sony took the game off Steam for those specified countries may not be true; there is no evidence that Sony did it. I think that it was Valve that did it to help stop the bleeding that was Sony's AND Arrowhead's doing.

[@BlackF0x_]

I guess someone at Microsoft payed a lot to Sony for this magnificent Xbox advertisement)

[@shoorty420]

Short term win Futurs plan is that they will make this a long time goal. Dont buy these appologies to quickly helldivers War is not done. Is has just began. We must be award of every move. To further recall. To superearth

[@Benri05]

I bet Sony understands now as to why PC players don't pay a monthly subscription just to play online multiplayer lol.

[@IsaacChoo88]

I just ignored all the Sony games on Steam

[@steelphoenix8978]

woah, imagine that. a good game not being console exclusive sells way better than ones that are? wow! fr tho, the 1st game wouldve definitely been a game me and not just my brothers but also my friends would play. i wondered why i never heard of it, but no wonder i didnt, im not in the ps ecosystem.

[@rurikhan]

Helldivers 1 also released on steam…

[@steelphoenix8978]

@@rurikhan i thought i tried looking for it and couldn't find it, but i see it now. i don't get it; maybe i searched wrong the 1st time.

[@kalfaxplays7899]

the game's score took a dive into hell and never resurfaced. jk, it's back to mixed, but i'll still stay away from buying this game.

[@duross101]

Until Sony takes a permanent back seat when it comes to involvement with helldivers I won't be satisfied. Stay where you belong sony, in the background with your mouth shut.

[@jakkrit6910]

and somepeople like me who refuse to make 3rd party account. sure some game is interesting but that's it interesting. 14:00 looking back it seem like he bait player to review bomb the game. i don't think you can keep your job if you just said review bomb the game so sony will give a sh//

[@aiesdief]

I'm sorry for helldivers2 but after this month sony is offlimits for me

[@MellaniePlays]

the funny part the whole warning banner of: Third party account required: PlayStation Network (Supports linking to a Steam account) was there from the start in all shops in every country. so actually the buyer could have read that.

[@Zazu1337]

But in the Playstation Shop it stated PSN was optional for PC on the Helldivers shop page. AFTER the Backlash Sony changed the general FAQ on the Homepage but on the shop page it is still saying PSN is optional (it will probably soon change as well). Also there is no other Sony game that NEEDs PSN on PC. SO even with that Steam banner it was perfectly reasonable to assume it would not be mandatory!

[@MellaniePlays]

@@Zazu1337 because all other ps games use something els like ubisoft. :’D

[@mategido]

I love to see sony los- I mean... to see gamers win

[@LackofFaithify]

Remember all the people that say everything is inevitable and to just get over the micro-transaction or whatever other BS that is being rammed down people's throat? Do you not understand now that resistance is not futile? Yeah, without undoing the reviews, this process won't be successful. Stick AND carrot.

[@joshuawilson6310]

Of course they backed walked the sign in. It's sony's 7th best selling game of all time. You think they wanna refund all that money they made so far.

[@MeltonCrest]

I'm one of those people who do not buy games that require thrid party accounts and/or launchers, no game is worth doing what corporations want like a sheep.

[@3G00dboys41]

Best Game of the YEAR!! Everyone who made a negative review over this needs to go back and change it to positive.

[@pse2020]

PC gamers acted as if they never ever had a job in their life... They acted as if arrowhead and sony tryed to screw the gamers on purpose. most likley people in diferent possitions made misstakes. Also steam removed the game from all those countrys not sony. I am not sure sony was about to sell it there.. again stuff went wrong most likley

[@nuke2099]

They didn't backtrack they just targeted a different game after. They just pushed this on Ghosts of Tsushima. The battle might have been won but you all lost the war. Especially since no one is going to push back for Ghosts of Tsushima unlike Helldivers 2. And Sony will continue with other games too. You all need to pay more attention because in your complacency they slipped past you easily.

[@davidhaaijema4521]

Don't change your review yet, they said they won't push the 30th may update, they didn't say PSN is off the table, 177 countries still delisted who they sold 3.5 million copies too.

[@robertarmstrong2323]

Specifically says Is not going forward..a backtrack would fully ruin Sony

[@davidhaaijema4521]

​@@robertarmstrong2323 "The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward." This is what it says correct ? "The may update" is the main subject of the sentence which "will not be moving foward" references too than correct ? Sony will try it again later, non-PSN countries still have the game pulled on steam.

[@davidhaaijema4521]

@@Wizard_Pikachu "The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward." This is what it says correct ? "The may update" is the main subject of the sentence which "will not be moving foward" references too than correct ? Sony will try it again later, non-PSN countries still have the game pulled on steam.

[@shaifs5072]

Gamers, please don’t forget this moment. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil publishers, is for good gamers to do nothing. Whether it is a shitty remaster, almost unplayable PC port, micro transactions snuck on day 1, censorship, nefarious localization, etc, do not eat the dick. Use your consumer power, don’t buy it, if you did and then realized how bad it was get a refund and make it known. Do not go back to complaining and buying the product. If you bought it, you support it. If you condone it, you support it. Stay strong, gamers.

[@nuke2099]

Except you all lost the war because Sony just implemented this shit to other games.

[@shaifs5072]

@@nuke2099 “if you bought it, you support it” just don’t buy it then.

[@nuke2099]

@@shaifs5072 I have an Xbox so I never bought it.

[@shaifs5072]

@@nuke2099 woosh.

[@nuke2099]

@@shaifs5072 Indeed.

[@ResidentRecon89]

People celebrating this victory are short sighted. They’ve only DELAYED the policy, they’re going to implement it in June sometime. I hate Short Term Victories, I want Permanent, Long Term Victories.

[@nuke2099]

Yep its already happening. They targeted Ghosts of Tsushima and other games instead. Yet there will likely not be any videos or outcry against it. Battle was won and the war was lost because people are too complacent.

[@MegasXaos]

First the Devs fought the community, then realized they were on the losing side. "If you can't spend 120 seconds to know you're fucking over 2/3 of the planet with PSN bullshit, why should I spend 120 seconds making a PSN account?" Arrowhead wanted this change just as much as Sony, their CMs were gleeful about it. They attacked fans, were passive aggressive and condescending, then complaining about the dumpster fire they started. And after all that they come back on bended knees groveling for an apology. There are 2 CMs that need to be publicly fired by the CEO. And the rest need a few months off with no pay. Then, I will consider it apology accepted for their tone deaf response to the issue of their own creating. Then I will update my review.

[@TimoNaaro]

End of the day I dont think Arrowhead is guiltfree here. My helldivers 2 is on ps5 so thank god I don't need to revaluate what to do with my steam review. But lets think about this: How did arrowhead code in the game the possibility of linking psn accounts withouth knowing you need to link psn accounts? Why did they not relate this info to customers in due time? Did arrowhead just trip and accidentally hire the most white gamer hating community managers who imiadiately attacked gamers before going into hiding? Are they guiltfree if their employees essentially do very weird shit in their name? Thank god sony cave in but we need a lot more than a free cape cosmetic to get the good will back on helldivers 2 side. Just lika Rurikhan said its easier to rally to negativity than positivity.