PlayStation's Ex-CEO RUINED Modern Gaming?!

[@OhNoItsAlexx]

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[@ahmedmmasri]

Shawn: “PlayStation putting their games on Xbox is bad and will anger the fanbase 😡” Also him: “PlayStation putting their games on Nintendo is great because PlayStation has a historic relationship with them 🥰” Shawn layden is a pure hypocrite He should just say he’s a PlayStation fanboy himself

[@ImViruxx]

Because Nintendo are not in direct competition with PlayStation, Sony are competing with Microsoft no one else.

[@GoAskMark]

​@@ImViruxxand Microsoft is not in competition with Sony and Nintendo. They are competing with Nvidia, Google and Apple.

[@ImViruxx]

@ Yup, so why is Sony VS Microsoft still a topic in 2024?

[@ahmedmmasri]

@@ImViruxxI’m mean Sony was scared shitless when Xbox was buying ABK Jim Ryan literally said “ if Xbox buys Activision PlayStation will never recover” while flying around the world, begging the regulators to stop the acquisition

[@UnRu1eD]

@@ImViruxx Because dumbass fanboys. Microsoft is competing against Meta, Nvidia, Google, Disney, Apple, Tencent. Sony and Nintendo are nowhere near the same playing field.

[@Lil-Famin]

Meanwhile, Microsoft’s over here throwing entire day-one releases onto Game Pass, and Sony's like, "Nah, here’s Spider-Man 2018 again. You’re welcome.

[@chriswihulu]

Yep, seems like Sony wants to give every Game Series the same treatment as TloU 1 and 2.

[@Throbingkcoc]

Im in no way defending Sony remastering games that came out 4 and 5 years ago but unfortunately most of those day 1 releases are pretty weak.

[@Hynotama]

I wouldn’t praise Microsoft’s ransomware subscription either.

[@leeviheiskanen1271]

​​@@Hynotama How is it ransomware ? Or you did you already have Indiana Jones and the Great Circle and Microsoft took it away now, and to access the game, they force you to pay for gamepass ?

[@neonsheep3358]

Mind you, gamepass is funding a lot of the woke garbage coming out of Microsoft lately. You're the modern audience, bro.

[@thegreatmightyd]

I knew this since the PS4 when every single Sony game just copied TLOU over and over again 🤦‍♂️

[@jubei20111]

It started with Uncharted.

[@GamesTrailerzers]

shawn layden is responsible Why PlayStation makes the same game template.

[@TheRealRuddRants]

Making him less likable.

[@Silver_silva0]

I wouldn't surprise, this is the same dude who agreed with ponies

[@bobtista88]

I hate how PS games are one and done experiences for $70, and then a month or so down the line they add new game + when I already moved on

[@dr_diddy]

This is how most single player games are?

[@ChrisAzure]

​@D4C_LoveTrain1 yeah, but those games used to have a multiplayer mode and no longer have it.

[@bjarnis]

​@@dr_diddyit used to be different, like I have played Skyrim at least 50 times, doing another one right now.

[@zerosam5541]

@@dr_diddy not games like minecraft,terraria,fallout,devil may cry and dark soul

[@ImViruxx]

That’s a you problem.

[@V3ntilator]

He are the reason why there are more focus on graphics than gameplay, and too much focus on story and hours of video with no gameplay. It backfired for Sony because Switch sell a lot more console because the focus is on gameplay over movies.

[@zerosam5541]

I thought cuase the switch is cheap and portable

[@V3ntilator]

@@zerosam5541 Switch isn't that cheap. It cost only 100 bucks less than PS5. Nintendo care more about gameplay and local multiplayer. Switch games in general don't have online DRM. There is a few reasons why it outsells PS5 by over 2:1.

[@smaffl1525]

And people wonder why Square Enix is no longer doing exclusive games, Sony putting more games on PC and other platforms, game costs are so out of control. Like people get so mind blown that when the fanboys brag about 60+ million ps5s being sold or whatever, its not translating to games selling, and game costs being so much more require more sales. This is why people need to stop bringing up console sales, if people arent buying the games. Theres plenty of people that buy a console and all they place is cod, fifa, madden and GTA. And a vast majority of them are on playstation.

[@HiramTuaPR]

That CEO created the Sony Ponies

[@Xajne]

Facts 😂

[@ShakilMia-gz6mp]

Who are you xbots fanboy

[@JoseRamos-z6v]

Phil Spencer created the Xbox cucks

[@kepnach6453]

@@ShakilMia-gz6mp Speaking of ponies here comes one now.

[@Snoddy2Hotty]

Love how every “cinematic” game nowadays always has the “shimmy between a crack in a wall to hide the load screens” in them

[@saintxrage2311]

You're absolutely right about that. I didn't pay attention to that.

[@JoseMedina-hs9st]

The movie station😂😂😂

[@dookie_12]

MOOVIE games

[@ShakilMia-gz6mp]

Indian jones moive simulator xbots fanboy 😂😂

[@cluckbent6466]

@@ShakilMia-gz6mp hardly. that game is wolfenstein with an indiana jones skin. machine games rock, only an insecure sony fanboy would say otherwise.

[@smaffl1525]

Companies think lets just throw a ton of money into developing a game will lead to a ton of sales, all that does is make the game need mores sales in order to turn a profit. Not the case. Theres reasons why more people are playing more live service based titles, like Fortnite, or cod or now path of exile 2 when its out. Idc what anyone says, the game output that Sony has done this generation is without a doubt their weakest. They had one of the worse gaming blunders since the Wii U imo with concord, and their "biggest" game this year was a lego game based on horizon that also launched on PC and switch. The only ones who say their output has been top notch are blind fanboys.

[@saintxrage2311]

I get corporate suits are the core problem with the gaming industry now, but how come no one is calling out the consumers? I don't like it one bit, but Sony exclusives do sell really well. In my opinion the modern audience is the ones that need everything fed to them, because they don't have the brain cells nor patience to see a complex game through. So in short this audience told the corporations "Yes please hold my hand and tell me I'm a good boy", and I don't feel sorry for them.

[@Johan_the_Marshal]

"Cinematic gaming" is oversaturated and inappropriately applied in games right now. At least in my eyes. "Line go up forever," is, unsurprisingly, unsustainable. Graphical fidelity can do alot, but making higher environmental interactivity, increased player agency in how they effect the evironment (except in the more obvious and violent ways) and making the game feel like a living or atleast lived in world? THAT can do far much more than the simplified, homogenous, yet graphically, supposedly, better looking game that plays like a movie where you press a button to succeed in the quick time events.

[@RedRabbit-ZA]

I used to like the whole "cinematic experience" thing, but I got sick of it. As an older gamer I don't have any patience for these movie games anymore.

[@greggcellente]

Agreed

[@iconofsin4578]

Never liked this shawn dude. Its like fanboy inside a company

[@cluckbent6466]

same. He's the one that went full throttle on those crappy movie games last generation. they should've kept Jack trentin, ps3 had great games.

[@johnwalters7608]

I got a ps5 to try the games like last of us and spiderman . There is more cut screens than game play . And I found spiderman to be a gring outside of the main game . Chasing pigeons 😮what a mission

[@djstef4549]

Ok I’m not gonna lie they do have a lot of cutscenes. But what your saying is objectively untrue. Through my playtime of the game on pc with all dlc completed I have 30hrs. The game doesn’t have doesn’t have even half that in cutscenes. So in fact you are wrong

[@dr_diddy]

@@djstef4549 people like to be hyperbolic on the internet.

[@Xyler94]

@@djstef4549 It just goes to show you how little the gameplay "feels fun" if it feels like there's more cutscenes than gameplay. The issue is that modern gaming disguises cutscenes as "walking moments". Where you are in control of your character, but you're not in the "gameplay". You're walking alongside an NPC having a conversation. You're walking down a path to the next combat sequence. Oh neat, they put in an easy to solve puzzle in your way to pad the runtime and make you feel like you are playing a video game. It may not literally be more cutscene than gameplay, but the issue is that it is heavy on the cutscenes, and breaks the gameplay so often that it feels like you're watching more than playing.

[@djstef4549]

@@Xyler94 good now this point makes way more sense. Glad your not an idiot stay blessed

[@rabbyd542]

​@@djstef4549 Six hours of cutscenes is crazy. Probably another six hours of that game is going from point A to point B to start a mission.

[@ni55an86]

I'll be the one to say it. I'm not dropping $80 after taxes to play a 5hr interactive film!!! Long games generally mean more gameplay and therefore better games. Not everytime but most of the time.

[@christopherholmes7324]

I agree! 100%!

[@dimmonkey]

It depends on the game AC Valhalla should be no more than 20 hours but it well overstays it's welcome while Elden Ring has given me 300 hrs so far.

[@danbooke2001]

Sony games are just push forward simulators.

[@chriswihulu]

Also some quick time events, but you're still very much correct 😂

[@thegreatmightyd]

And filled with DEI propaganda.

[@dr_diddy]

@@thegreatmightyd what propaganda does Ghosts of Tsushima, God of War or Spider-Man have?

[@thegreatmightyd]

@D4C_LoveTrain1 Those games weren't really woke but the sequels were.

[@jedthementalist5112]

My last PS consoles were PS3 & Vita for this exact reason. With the PS4 I saw the future of Sony, nothing but 3rd party and Uncharted clones. I'm currently enjoying indie/AA games and my extensive back catalogue. Remnant 2 is a good example of gameplay and value for time/money over anything AAA has to offer.

[@cptcaveman9183]

I miss the 6th console generation era of games. It seemed like every dev was coked outta their minds because of how wild the ideas for games were... it was awesome

[@The_Bearded_Warrior]

One of the reasons why I went back to Gen 5 & 6 games, When games were actually fun & you can play over & over again. The more these modern games feel like movies the less I play them. I missed how games had more gameplay & less cinematics.

[@relentlesspleb1153]

In my opinion, the term "video game" is a misnomer that fails to capture the essence of what these experiences should be. To me, they are simply games, and the industry's increasing focus on the "video" aspect undermines the fundamental joy of interactive entertainment. Many companies seem more invested in delivering long, unskippable cinematics and visually stunning cutscenes, often at the expense of gameplay quality, animations, and mechanics. When I sit down to play a game, I want to engage with challenging mechanics, explore interactive worlds, and enjoy fluid, responsive controls. Unfortunately, too many modern titles prioritize cinematic storytelling over these core elements, resulting in sub-par gameplay experiences. These games often feel more like passive movies than active games. If I wanted to watch a movie, I would do just that. The immersive nature of games should stem from their interactivity, not from mimicking Hollywood blockbusters. The industry needs to remember that the strength of games lies in their ability to offer unique, engaging experiences that movies simply cannot provide. By focusing on improving gameplay and mechanics, developers can ensure that games remain a distinct and vibrant medium, rather than becoming mere movie-like simulations.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

"video game" is so we know the difference between a board game and a video game. That's all.

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

The game length sometimes depends on the genre, for RPGs it makes sense that it is 80 to 100 hours because the game is story and side quests focused, for a platformer it makes sense that it is only 20 hours because the game is gameplay focused , but nowadays almost all AAA games are graphics and Story focused and everything else has been thrown away

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

I actually have a playlist of long form video game analysis videos to fall asleep to

[@kingstrojek9937]

Same I got a huge playlist of videos analyzing games a good handful are from White light and Salt factory I think

[@theincrediblefella7984]

​@@kingstrojek9937 I find salt factories videos to be genuinely terrible. White light is really hot or miss.

[@Dawk_50]

Gameplay is king. Graphics lose their thrill quickly when you are trying not to die. I guess that's why they are movie like.

[@Throbingkcoc]

The PS3 era was still pretty strong. Sony went overboard on button press movies in the middle of the PS4.

[@LeviathanXVer3]

I hate long modern games, it's mainly because they fill their games with BS busy work and not enjoyable content. I also hated how the industry went from different studios designing a game around a targeted audience and changed to what they called "stream lining" their games for a wider audience during the late 2000's. Current day they just use the term "modern audience" but also attack their audience. This industry is stupid. AAA needs to collapse.

[@ShinKamaitachi]

You know what I don't get is why Sony can't just make video games instead of pushing cinematic feeling movie style games you know.b it's okay if they want to make a movie star game but you know they could also make regular games without dei and woke garbage in it. You know, I also think that you could make a video game for 5 million or less with a people who know what they're doing versus hiring a bunch noobs who only worked on one game or no games at all. Now ask for the amount of money they spend on video games because it's mismanagement of the money, and hearing the excuse that video games are hard to make or they're expensive is a lie. A good example of that would have to be Concord because of the fact that they worked on the game for God knows how long and most of the time it was broken. 400 million on the video game that's like almost half a billion right there. Like I can imagine how much they wasted on the last of us factions before they they pulled the plug on it. I feel like instead of game studios focusing on Dei or hiring gay people to fit a quarter maybe they should set a road map for how they're going to make their game set a budget and go with that and if it goes over budget a little bit and it's okay.

[@Hynotama]

Sonic the Hedgehog is cinematic too, with cool camera angles and action set pieces. Somehow it’s not a walking simulator, unlike Sony games.

[@dookie_12]

Sonic also doesn’t walk slowly while talking about feelings.

[@Cobra-Kai-Commander]

The Series S strikes again

[@XarronChaos]

In Dragon Ball terms, Series S is like Kid Buu lol

[@dookie_12]

The Series S can’t keep getting away with this!!

[@daviddamasceno6063]

If the problem is that if players think the game is too hard they will quit, the answer is not handholding them and treating them like babies. The answer is to make the game so fun and adicting players will feel motivated to overcome the challenge.

[@matthewcharles9813]

I think dark souls series is a good example of this. Honestly I wasn't into difficult games until I randomly tried demon souls when it came out on PS3. The game made me want to beat it.

[@ingmarderuiter9089]

There is this cohort of "gamers" and "games journalists" or "critics" who seem to think the highest priase a game can get / achieve is "it copies the movies and TV shows you have already seen"

[@retromario6130]

Shawn is also a hypocrite. After he left Sony, he criticized the way Sony was making expensive games. Yet… he’s the SoB responsible for creating that environment.

[@thegreatmightyd]

I think the best description I ever read about modern Sony "games", as well as most modern games in general is that they all feel like you're walking thru a virtual amusement park made for one person.

[@Soapy-chan]

10:38 putting Twitter there was genius, I lift my hat for you

[@OhNoItsAlexx]

Someone got the joke lol

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

So the Ex CEO is the reason why Sony is what it is today. Gone are the days of innovative games like Jak and Daxter, Resistance and Killzone for movie games like Last of Us, God of War Ragnarok and Spiderman 2. I do miss the PlayStation 1 to early PlayStation 3 era when Sony was innovative but now they're stagnant and stale.

[@contrapassose7en]

I would add that jrpgs are a big time sink and they have never been more popular. Atlus make super long games and they are super popular. Also, maybe I'm a filthy casual but I do like a good visual novel. That's all story and (almost) no gameplay and they don't cost too much money to make.

[@possiblyinsane6995]

That’s because Japanese people have no social life

[@CHEIF_L97]

0:12 spin then ass slap combo always makes me laugh

[@NowhereNarrative]

People raved about Spider-man. When I finally played it on PC it was just OK. Anyone claiming it was better than the Arkham games is smoking Sony salt.

[@diablomozart]

spiderman was overrated imho...is it a good game? for the most part...is it a mindblowing experience? no, it's just a good spiderman game (minus the forced stealth missions)

[@NowhereNarrative]

@@diablomozart Mary Jane missions suck, but even the Spidey stealth sections felt uninspired. Compared to Batman predator encounters they might as well have not bothered and kept it a pure action game.

[@MrJblazini]

The Conon Obrien video he said basically we are still not playing the game, we are still watching this" 😂😂😂😂

[@jawsofwar]

Anyone else have their controller turn off during huge “cutscenes” Happens so much during like a dragon and final fantasy 16 😂

[@ps5blows317]

Oh yeah, the death stranding on Xbox. He doesn't even play videogames and he gets it.

[@kitsune-chan6897]

My favourite kind of game is the ones that are easy to get into, but hard to master. I think Ultrakill is a good example. The gameplay is rather easy to understand, but you can do so many crazy tricks, skips and strategies.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

I loved going from Doom Eternal where I play exclusively on Nightmare, then went to Ultrakill and felt like an actual retard for a while lmao

[@lunasmokezim1718]

I totally agree, his complianing about an environment that he fostered.

[@jakedizzle]

I’ve recently been replaying Hitman 3. I guess it’s called the world of assassins now. The game is beautiful. Honestly, having more fun with that game than anything recently that’s came out.

[@brancofreitas13]

Just now PoE 2 released that it's over a MILLION people with EA and they requested more servers for the weekend

[@TheIndulgers]

It’s amazing to me that people praise games like Spider-Man 2 and TLOU2. These games are boring cinematic snoozefest with mid gameplay. I didn’t buy a game to watch it and have the game basically play themselves.

[@WvlfeTV]

Nothing beats the creative output of the PS3 era btw, it is the best collection of exclusive games of varying genres.

[@derp3305]

Dude I'm sick of hearing Horizon is the best game ever, stop! I played the 2nd one for an 1hr and I fell asleep, while baby sitting when I woke up I had to play with the kids just to stay awake.😅 I rather just play Monster Hunter, hate the slow mo mechanic it ain't satisfying.

[@jptellsyou]

The problem is these corporate heads aren't gamers, the don't understand what gamers want.

[@Foxbat2B]

Agreed 100% what you said Alex at the 15:12 - 15:40 about the game industry. Video games should be about is it fun to play.

[@subjectnivleis7572]

The Sony that made parappa the rappa jak and daxter and sly cooper no longer exists

[@ThatVikingGamer]

Perfectly put points Alex, this is the reason I couldn't finish God of War Ragnarok, it was so boring I just gave up.

[@robert461]

Trash Playstation games are the most boring games ever.

[@HardcoreWrestlingNerd]

Let me rephrase trash games are boring. No need to console war every platform has trash and most often trash, shallow games, repeat content are popular : cod, gta, cs2. Even woke crap can be successful : Baldur's Gate 3, god of war "ragnarök, starfield for instance.

[@foxx8x]

Thinking of getting into poe2, can't wait to learn a thing or two from tonight's stream

[@sarmstrong7014]

Alexx is 100% right about youtube video length imo. I hate having to stop whatever I am doing to try and find a new video to watch because i cant find anything i care for that is over 15-20 minutes and/or having to scroll and search and scroll some more looking for shit to queue up. and when queue ends having to repeat the process.

[@ReaperCet]

Hey, remember how Don Mattrick was right? I do.

[@kikayei]

I loved GAMEPRO magazine rating system. It was simple and well placed. I wonder what’s going on with Scary Larry today.

[@IamQuietKrys]

Imagine ruining a game for everyone just because you personally lack the time to complete said game.

[@bffcst]

I know a lot of people that won't play games based on how long they are, most ps3 ps2 era games usually took around 10 to 15 hours, but now that's to short for some reason

[@damianelswick8828]

This video should be shown to every developer when they start a job. If the game is fun, it's almost always going to feel too short. Damned shame the industry needs reminded that entertainment is supposed to be fun.

[@doctorgames101b]

Right on, Alexx. A long game can be a positive asset to a gamer (specifically adult gamers) in the long run. It is not our fault that Sony or Microsoft has an inflated budget for the past few years now. That's their problem, not us consumers.

[@idacrow7694]

He also said RPG are expected to the long time games he is talking about all non RPG games

[@ReaperCet]

VEILGUARD did not remove itself from ORIGINS. It's a sequel to a game that was not like origins And that game was a sequel to a game that was not like origins. And there are like 5 other games in between that are not like origins

[@OhNoItsAlexx]

Looks like you're seeing the problem

[@Andrew-vz7fj]

There was a Mythbuster episode where they showed people thought a cake tasted better if it had a higher price tag, even if the cake it was compared too was the exact same cake. I think the higher quality graphics and bigger budgets are to get investors who don't play games excited about investing in the game publisher's stock. Gamers are not the target audience, Wall Street is.

[@deiradinn]

I am excited about the new Indiana Jones, which is going to be largely like a movie, but since it is a movie IP.... I'll forgive it. The reviews are really good too.

[@kaiserpr0728]

In a 40 hour game they should include 1 hour in cinematics to explain the story and if you have to play part of the cinematic.

[@TennesseeMule]

The only studios that can afford to keep making games on these budgets are the handful that have live service games that are money printing machines: Rockstar, Blizzard, Epic and not many more.

[@vidsurfer0725]

Beat way i like to put it: Best raman place has a good serving size and a very good base broth. Some a-hole starts to serve less serving size, at the same cost and the base beoth is awful as are the rest of the ingredients.

[@george1521]

Sony know that nobody is finishing their games, I'm at chapter 3 rdr2 and I feel like everything takes way to long, I realise that's an old game but I also round God of war ragnarok missing something, got bored of that too half way through. I think multiplayer games are important too because humans are social and gaming is more fun with other players.

[@ImViruxx]

Another one with a short attention span, that’s pretty common with modern day gamers.

[@george1521]

​@ImViruxx but it wasn't because the games are long, it's because the gameplay/movement feels too slow in rdr2 i found it tedious. I got bored of gow2 because it felt like I was just killing the same enemies and doing the similar repetative enemies/combat. Despite my dislikes I still am playing these games and plan on finishing them.

[@XiphosGaming]

I spent over 3000 hours playing Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on the Wii U and over 2000 playing Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate on the 3DS, with the newer Monster Hunter games, I've probably maxed out at around 300 Hours played. The most recent game from Sony that I think is actually fun to play, is Days Gone and even then, I only have about 150 hours in that.

[@voidrat9176]

are you trying the POE2 early access later alexx?

[@OhNoItsAlexx]

Yes

[@TrumpetSoundProduction]

Absolutely CORRECT Alex.

[@ragingmonk6080]

He also said something about it being the end of the consoles. It is a hardware advancement thing which made no sense to me but he said it.

[@DamienDrake2940]

Just compare Xenoblade and Final Fantasy to see Alexx's point. Xeno is a classic open world JRPG title while FF is now a walking sim with scripted events in between cutscenes. All 3 Xeno games on the Switch are seen as successes while the last 3 FF are flops.

[@Chad_Wick]

He's right. I definately don't have time for sony games.

[@paccacio2935]

Gamepro magazine!!!! That was hot 5.0 was the highest ,sound,graphics,fun factor 👍👍 great times

[@drehm1011]

Shawn Layden is also responsible for the for sonys 8th generation exclusivity campaign that led to Hiroki Totoki saying sony has no original IP. He is completely responsible for the current landscape of the industry.

[@inxe8]

Nah, you have this all wrong. Shortening length is basically a synonym for reducing cost whilst retaining perceived production value. And like it or not, in a bunch of game categories those production values really matter, especially when establishing a new IP. The reality is that if you are entering a market where the visuals are going to get judged, if your game doesn't look visually competitive you're likely screwed from the off! Especially on console, where its practically mandatory to keep up with the established level of presentation for that generation or immediately get trashed for looking like an title. Allegedly dated looking games are rarely big hits. Not saying I'm a fan in so-called "streamlining", because I can't count the number of arguments I've had with producers over retaining side/extra content when their argument is if "if only 10% of players are going to see that part, why should we spend 4% of the budget on it? It makes more sense to spend that time/money on a flashy intro that everyone has to sit through at least once." And trust me, I was dealing with that BS years before Layden had his moment at the top. So trust me, blaming Layden specifically for that is wrong because that line of thinking goes back 20+ years and was rife across the industry.

[@karamuto1565]

He said the players should see everything... Meanwhile From Software just hides whole areas behind weird quests s.t. only the most interested get to see them.

[@Gestersmek]

Layden was so frustratingly close to understanding the "games are too long" argument.

[@Samgideon5]

I feel the same about games. Of course I would like, Story, Music and Graphics to be good. But if I don't enjoy the Gameplay I don't care about the other ones.

[@robbieelkins2301]

The issue is that Sony just doesn't care about they're fans anymore. They'd rather please investers. The problem with this line of thinking is that if you luse syte of what made you great as a company in the first place to the average person you luse everything.

[@XDEFXD]

Stares at my hundreds of hours in certain games.

[@jawsofwar]

I do think some games overstay their welcome by being too long. Honestly depends on the type of game you are making. Not everything should be a 100 hr plus experience it will legitimately turn some people off.

[@assassinlegend618]

Honestly I stopped playing triple A games and play indie games like Genshin Impact, blind fire, Make way, Monster Sanctuary, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, South park snow days, SpeedRunners, Crackdown 3, AwesomeNauts Assemble , so many more that I enjoy.

[@soulsolis3096]

Spiderman has been the only game I replay a lot from Sony, and that's ONLY because of the Mods!

[@erinherrington2501]

I’ll take it a little further, it isn’t just Sony but also Square Enix after Sakaguchi left. Remember FFXII’s development. It was a lot longer than the prior games and unnecessary budget. FF XIII had behind the shoulder cinematic elements and felt less like a game and more of a movie in terms of gameplay.

[@KainGarland]

I disagree, many people don't want long games, what we want is replayable games. Cinematic games don't have that often because the focus on the story is so much that once you experience it, replaying it doesn't do anything. Shmup crowd are happy with short games and replaying it over and over and trying to get better, increasing score, etc. Tmnt shredder revenge is posibly the best tmnt beat en up, only issue is that it's too long at 2 hours instead of the 30 minutes it usually takes with the old ones Friends and I have beat old tmnt beat em ups and others single or multiplayer dozens of times but have not with shredders revenge because if how long it is. I agree games have to be more involved, more fun rather than long.

[@stevenkennedy6870]

We don’t want short games what we want is games not to waste our time there is a difference best example is compare the time it takes too 💯 FF7 1997 port vs FF7 remake and you’ll understand why gamers find older titles better than new triple A titles

[@theincrediblefella7984]

You can't say "many people don't want long games" and then only talk about you and your friends with a 2 hour game that's arbitrarily "too long" Fuck outta here with that nonsense lol.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

​@@stevenkennedy6870 FF7 (the original) is one of my favorite games of all time. I've got 140 hours in it and I've never beaten it. I don't even think I've gotten to where Aeris dies lol

[@stevenkennedy6870]

@@theincrediblefella7984 well i was born in 1998 FF7 was before my time so when i heard the remake dropped in 2020 i said cool i’ll play the original 1st ended up loving it getting the platinum then luck has it FF7 remake free on ps plus essential i play it i couldn’t 💯 it i got through one play through and i couldn’t finish my second play through its too tedious with the terrible narrative dialogue and cutscenes

[@KainGarland]

Agreed, I don't want games to waste time, being long for the sake of being long. Personally I've beaten many games over and over, especially old nes games or arcade games because I can just pick up the controller, best them in 1,2 or 3 sirtings and have a blast. You start the game and instant gameplay. No missions feel like a waste. Not saying I don't like long games or that they are bad. But often now games focus way more on story and cinematics than the actual game being fun or engaging.vor have such innane engagement in the form of press x to listen, press x to look, press x to kick debri of the path etc which is confused for gameplay.

[@davidjohnston6547]

You also have shareholders, these studios are focusing on the wrong people, if they would focus on the actual gamers (those who buy the product) instead of the shareholders they would realize they could make more money putting out a great product, and that would make shareholders just as happy. I agree with you on a lot of your points. These game studios used to be run by people who were passionate about games, that actually played games, they pushed the boundaries of what a game could be in both game play and story while still being engaging and fun. Now those studios are run by suits who only care about money and deadlines, they all fit into the same mold, as you stated the "eye candy". On the flip side you have studios that put out games like Baldur's Gate 3 that show these so-called AAA studios you can make a great game without spending 100's of millions of dollars and people will buy it. That fun factor is gone from a lot of games, and they are released incomplete or as a buggy train wreck from hell.

[@GPsarakis]

I keep telling people that the console market is stagnant and they keep selling to the same ~200 million or so users. This is why they're all porting games to pc and mobile.

[@Nirob615]

Less people experiencing parts of a game the deeper you go into the game has just been a sad reality of games. Not everyone that tries your game is going to like it enough to keep playing it; this is just how society and reality work in regards to literally any media not just games. This has been a problem since the 90s, and Shawn Laden trying to present it as a new problem is just a pure goober move. Case and point even though I bought the version of Nioh 2 that comes with it's DLCs I never actually finished the base game or even touch the DLCs. My GPU died when I was literally like 95% through the base game, and by the time I got it fixed I just never got around to finishing it. I was too rusty on the game mechanics, and I had forgotten a lot of the story meaning I had no idea why I was doing what I was doing. I was at the final boss of the mission I was on, and I don't want to quit the mission and lose progress. However, I'm admittedly not that good at the game anymore so I can't beat said boss :(.

[@Mark-nl1up]

It depends on the game. Story rpg games need some good length. Shooters don’t have to be that long but about mid range. Like the Witcher was a good length.

[@ZeroBeat1]

Sony moving Sony Interactive Entertainment's headquarters to San Mateo, California, was the worst thing they've done. EDIT: Layden is also responsible for most of the censorship policies that affected Asian developers. Jim Ryan made it worse by expanding it to indie devs.

[@ThatsGuy410]

As a former, only console gamer. My decision to go to PC was right on time!

[@peaceup5519]

I completely agree with you. Big budget and high production games with exceptional graphics can be good if they are done right. The key is being done right though. The current version of Cyberpunk 2077 is a great example. It's one of the best looking games on the market and offers up one helluva cinematic experience. The Witcher 3 is another great example... And that games a decade old. Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice is a perfect example of a bad game with state of the art graphics trying to offer a cinematic experience. God of War: Ragnarok is sorta half-and-half with me. The graphics are good, the story and cutscenes are good, the combat is amazing... But the game really wasn't put together like it should have been. It's off. Not enough for me to hate the game, but it's enough to keep me from wanting to play it for more than a few hours at a time, 2 days a week. POE2 is so good that I took a weeks vacation for the sole purpose of getting lost in the game. I am too... I'm gonna play the shit outta POE2! I rented an Air BnB with fiber optic Internet service and everything. I've never gone that far out on a game before. POE2 is a horse of a different color though. It's the game to end all games. The game that every AAA publisher is gonna hate... And I can't wait!

[@elibxborn]

Wow GamePro magazine. Those were the days.

[@zerosam5541]

Game cost should not be this high when technology is getting better they need to slow down with cutscene and voice actor

[@HankFett-1701a]

I think it's funny Ubisoft shut down XDefiant but not Skull & Bones. I have to assume it is because of contracts but still...

[@sunnyssundries]

Layden actually was very much in favour of low-budget indie games, innovative play-styles, etc, and wanted to have as many of them on PS4 as possible. Somehow that picture, which is painted here of him is far from accurate.

[@Nick-p6p1m]

Idk. He also green lit A LOT more variance. Medievil Remake, Dreams, Concrete Genie, birth of Astro Bot, birth of PSVR (laundry list of games), Ico/Shadow of Colossus Remake, Last Guardian, Last of Us actually had multiplayer which was lowkey fun as heck, God of War reboot would have began under him and honestly that’s just what I can think of without looking anything up. I mean the teams made the games but if we are attributing what comes out under them as kind of “their era”. All I would say if you said Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst…I would say give me Shawn Layden any day. There’s a reason he was abruptly departing PlayStation, and criticizes the way things are going. That NDA will expire someday and we will know the turmoil, he wasn’t going with the grain.