PLAY TO WIN vs THE HERMIT DRUID - TYMNA|KRAUM - KINNAN - ROGRAKH|TEVESH SZAT - TYMNA|DARGO

This week we're joined by The Hermit Druid to play some cEDH
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[@SirDoogleBeard]

The "You guys play DnD?" followed by awkward silence and then multiple "nooooo...." killed me 😂😂

[@thehermitdruid]

Lmao

[@MindLaboratory]

Every game group has this moment at some point

[@DaxVerus]

I felt his pain, hell never be on the channel again lol

[@pe3der]

@@DaxVerus 90% sure that's not true Nathan is a treasure I expect we'll jam with him again

[@DaxVerus]

@@pe3der it was satire :p

[@thehermitdruid]

I still can’t believe I fought through Blue Farm and Kinnan to get stuffed by a fucking Rograkh 🤣🤣😭🤣🤣

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

LOL You were still very close

[@tariqmaketab595]

Did you have the win if the Necromancy wasn't there?

[@thehermitdruid]

@@tariqmaketab595 yes I would have 1000% won if I got my Razaketh

[@kalebpenno2632]

@@thehermitdruid the list you're using here seems quite a few cards different from the primer list, do you think running razaketh is a major boon to the deck?

[@thehermitdruid]

… I may have forgot to update my list. And so far it seems okay? I wasn’t sold on it but I am trying it out

[@michaelatbarnett]

I love the stack visualization by you guys. Always makes things way easier to follow as a viewer. Another great video!

[@oddball_covers]

The Kinnan player in me was very happy with this game. Go Tyler go!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Go Tyler indeed

[@pe3der]

Thanks Tommy :) I ended up watching this whole episode too basically just so I could make kissy noises at mystic remora every few minutes. 10/10 would do again

[@Starkipraggy]

justice for tyler getting bodied for quite a few videos now lmao

[@Zelphiez]

"Dyl Dyl it's okay cuz eat shit." made me genuinely chuckle. ILY guys and your friendly banter so much.

[@Zelphiez]

"Ho my God Tyler!"

[@pe3der]

Also my fav line but I'm a smidge biased

[@Kallastin]

That awkward since when he asked "You guys play DnD?" I'm surprised you guys don't. A dnd Campaign with Tyler, Nate, Dylan, and Cam would be so hilarious! You could even have the session made in Ravnica since it's magic themed! That would be super cool to see as a DM!

[@thehermitdruid]

YESSSSS HAHAHAHA

[@pe3der]

I've tried man. Every time in 5+ campaigns I get a month in and I'm just like...... but I could have had more fun with these 4 hours just playing magic 🤷‍♂️

[@Kallastin]

@@pe3der Yeah I understand that. I'd always be down to play cEDH tho. But when it comes to DnD, it's a nostalgia thing I guess. Always played it with some friends back in HS. So I'm biased. Lol

[@charlesmaillho367]

Tyler openly says the force of will and mana drain are on the bottom of his library after the wild magic surge. Next turn he cracks a fetch land shuffles the deck. He then gets 2 remora triggers and draws and it just so happens that 1 of those 2 cards was force of will. That's some shuffle luck there.

[@pe3der]

True true. One of a number of things I lucked out on that game, most notably Dylan answering the Razaketh which I'm pretty sure I couldn't have stopped at that moment

[@Highwang]

Hermit Druid's proxies for Tymna & Dargo are incredible.

[@thehermitdruid]

They are my favourite meme and a fantastic study for social media management

[@DINGTAN1]

As much as I understand why Stax is important for the meta, seeing 3 Turbo decks and 1 midrange just have a slap fight is peak cEDH for me.

[@raycebannon6422]

That was a fun stack around the Sacrifice. The Dark Ritual to pay the baiting, all of it. What a fun game.

[@thehermitdruid]

🥺 thank you

[@corbangreen-wlmfaculty9427]

As much as I love the themed games, it's also really fun to see you all play your favorite decks. Would love to see more of this in the future :)

[@oddball_covers]

I saw Dylan wild magic surge into a knowledge pool with an eidolon of rhetoric, so that card is mad risky

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

CARD BLOWS

[@bend5963]

@@PlaytoWinMTG better for destroying combo pieces than value engines imo

[@Tspang42]

I’m personally sticking with chaos warp😂

[@Luastardust]

Tyler is just absolutely winning with those one liners AND an ashitaka alter for Kinnan :’) great game!

[@pe3der]

Lua!!! See it in person at Okotoberfest! Can't wait, see ya there

[@grinreaperoftrolls7528]

15:42 “Oh my god, tyler” idk why but that was hilarious to me 😂

[@fnaw17]

Ahh yes, the classic bully the guest as tradition calls for it and the kinan player wins, this sounds like my pods irl lmao

[@thehermitdruid]

Tbh they had to lol

[@jonnybirch2268]

I love how you guys analyze the games! It really helps see why the game progresses like it does, which is awesome

[@especko6789]

I absolutely love the Isabelle/Doom Guy proxy 💚

[@thehermitdruid]

:3

[@skagwaterrpgs6893]

Nathan's opening got me busted! "You can find me on Twitter. But don't!" Freaking got me.

[@blakerobinson4198]

Considering the set is the brothers war, i think you need to have Urza and Mishra st the table. Doesn't matter which version, but both should be represented

[@jmcauley650]

This game was great! This group is hilarious. Instantly subscribed. Nathan is such a great guest, I'd love to see him on more episodes.

[@thehermitdruid]

Thank you so much 🥺

[@toctheyounger]

Hella spicy plays here, this was a bit of an arm wrestle, you love to see it, especially if you're Tyler. Also, my 2.5yo son would like details for your dogs' litigation team. There are many things for which he would like to be absolved of blame.

[@thehermitdruid]

I do all my work for free contact us any time at 1800 GOOD BOI

[@Flip4Crypt]

There was so much interaction that was crazy Hermit Druid was so close, walking through the fucking mud I would love to see a Tawnos Or Kayla Bin Krug deck on here, but don't know how cEdh they are hahaha Great shit as always I'm loving the content every week and so happy for the constant growth of the channel!

[@thehermitdruid]

Fought so hard 😤 if he didn’t snag the Razaketh that would have been GG 😭

[@Blackadam36]

Damnnnnnn Tyler just taking the game like “I’m the captain now!”

[@thomasnoonan2039]

So much interaction, love it! Keep it up y'all.

[@justinullman6253]

Dylan had multiple opportunities to capitalize and failed to. Also having grinding station allows him to wish with the talisman and sacrifice it in response so it doesn’t shift control.

[@BriceQ]

The table in the background of Dylan's post-game clips is like a behind the scenes lol

[@TheWaffleDad]

As always, I loved the video. Keep it up!

[@SvviftDeath]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who plays Perplexing Chimera. It is such a house of a card when you can bounce it back to your hand or in my case back to my side of the field with Roon of the Hidden Realm.

[@pe3der]

There are dozens of us

[@tellable9425]

Babe wake up, Play to Win video dropped.

[@videowiz22]

That late game interaction battle was crazy. Sucks when you think you are clear only to be knocked down again lol

[@thehermitdruid]

OUT OF ROGRAKH ON GOD 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

So close

[@alessandrocardona2290]

For Brothers War Queen Kayla Bin-Kroog seems insane and would absolutely love to see you play her.

[@barndone]

The desire to proxy out dab farm is even more intense, that was such a fun game to watch!

[@thehermitdruid]

YEYEYYYEE

[@Ataelglory]

Love that keywork ink on Nathan's hand! Deck wasn't too shabby either

[@thehermitdruid]

Thank you :3 it’s my baby

[@Akodo25]

i also was going to comment on the keywork tattoo. it's cool to see one among the fence on here

[@bongzong9824]

Waited my whole weekend for this video.

[@rowrow_]

Suggestions for Brother's War talking points that I've seen: One card that stands out is Thran Vigil for decks that want to assemble a persist sacrifice loop for a wincon, which is a cheaper and more effective way I think than any previous ways in black decks without white or green. Might be awesome with Yawg decks. Fallaji Archaeologist is kind of like an Augur of Bolas except it also fills your graveyard, and can draw you any noncreature spell, dunno if any decks are looking for that effect but for 2 mana and a body, any breach decks can make use of it I feel. Though I don't think I've ever seen Strategic Planning used in cEDH. Arcane Proxy's prototype is possibly really efficient at casting some strong spells from the graveyard like the suspend cards, though I can't think of any that immediately stand out as game winning. Might be part of a Gale deck. Haywire Mite is like Caustic Caterpillar which I don't know if it sees any play, but being able to exile cards like Breach seems relevant for any green decks that want to have modality with exiling artifact/enchantment based wincons.

[@robertmitchell3030]

My new cEDH battlecry…”This is my boat now MFs!” 😂. Nice win!

[@Donny-G]

Great to see a good scoop done respectfully even on a recording

[@rowrow_]

Fish sticks was the highlight of the match

[@RageofVaddix]

Fish sticks was hilarious and got me hungry at the same time lol

[@grinreaperoftrolls7528]

Bruh, fish sticks had me rolling 😂

[@dylanpruitt4814]

I freaking love your guys’ content. I can’t get enough! I would love to see an episode where you guys do a “why Kinnan is good in CEDH.” I thought the Jeskai/Blood pod episodes were rad. Would love to get Tyler specific opinions on certain cards. Guy definitely knows his stuff!

[@khengar5517]

Thanks for showing the stacked cards all the time, helps me as a nooby casual player alot !!

[@Its-Lulu]

Man Tyler really said NO!!!! 😂 Btw nice blue eyes toon dragon shirt Dylan 😏

[@thehermitdruid]

Pain

[@jaydonthewarrior636]

For the commander game, I would probably have one of them be The Archimandrite. Advisors, Artificers, and Monks are pretty strong creature types, and the commander lends himself pretty well to a Stax deck.

[@literallyaghosttpoc]

HERMIT!! What a hella cool dude Im excited as hell to see him play!!

[@thehermitdruid]

Oh my gosh thank you😭

[@literallyaghosttpoc]

@@thehermitdruid Absolutely!! Following you on Twitter is a treat!

[@FecklessSpoon]

I absolutely love the doom slayer/ Isabel custom art that The Hermit Druid had!

[@isaacweber8289]

Hold up - kinnan runs perplexing chimera? That's glorious

[@pe3der]

Nah man I'm just a monster. One Patreon playday I was like "you know, I want to resolve ad naus in kinnan. I'm gonna try perplexing chimera for the memes." Then I realized it's actually an insane stax piece and I want it every game. You've inspired me to do what I wanted to do a month ago - change the name on Moxfield to Kinnan Ad Naus. Done.

[@nicholasbowdler9447]

Tyler dressed up for the game with da collared shirt. I respect that!

[@pe3der]

We film on Sundays so usually I'm coming from church nah just kidding magic is all the church I need and I'm just a weirdo and wear button downs like half the time for no reason

[@frankdetank9126]

Awesome video, per usual. Have you ever considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?

[@aidanb4834]

Love Nathan's Coheed tat!

[@thehermitdruid]

One among the fence

[@liamw.1313]

Damn really felt like Hermit Druid deserves the win here, so many chances only to be foiled. What a rollarcoaster of emotions.

[@thehermitdruid]

BY ROGRAKH HAHAHA oh man it was so good tho I love the fight that’s why I play cEDH

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

What a spicy game .. interaction upon interaction...loving it

[@thehermitdruid]

They fought me so fucking hard

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

IT NEVER STOPS

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@thehermitdruid Well You were really scary so take that as a compliment ;)

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

@@PlaytoWinMTG And never shall it stop EVER

[@thehermitdruid]

@@VeilofDeathMTG oh I fuckin do lmao

[@TheSpunYarn]

after seeing Hermit do some Dargoposting for as long as I've followed him i finally get to see the beast unleashed

[@thehermitdruid]

Did you like it? 🥹

[@TheSpunYarn]

@@thehermitdruid hell yeah dude i love casting things that scare the shit outta people. that's what all my decks do hehe.

[@connorr.6600]

Hell Yeah Nathan! So fucking close. More DAB FARM Vids Bring Nathan Back 🎉

[@cordreg]

GG by Tyler. great player.

[@ethanstates884]

Great game fellas. Btw, for brothers war I want comments on the new silence effect and the new defabricate

[@didupaytheone2678]

A good time to be had,seeing new video from u guys made my day,keep up the good work, combat damage baby ,who wont love it wink wink looking at u bro

[@forestmcguigan7058]

The Gilded Drake tokens look just like tyler. Incredible.

[@frosty980]

Been messing around with Queen Kayla and the deck can get some absurd value, would be cool to see what you guys come up with for her

[@sayntfuu]

"No Dylan it's ok, because eat shit." Tyler

[@jameshall3068]

Hermit is the best! thanks for having them on!

[@thehermitdruid]

🥺thank you

[@fluffylegend294]

Another great game, as always! Would love to see someone play Myrel next week for the brothers war game :)

[@kristopherwatts9466]

Oh man Hermit Druid!!! First came across him on Tiktok, miss seeing his content!

[@thehermitdruid]

🥺

[@kristopherwatts9466]

@@thehermitdruid Sending love your way my friend! Hope everything's been going well for you!

[@simontorell1549]

Why perplexing chimera in kinnan? Is the chimera somehow extra useful in that list?

[@user-oy6tu5wr7g]

Your videos are so good edited, congrats to the responsable

[@bladerbattler25]

I like how Dylan is wearing a blue eyes toon dragon shirt in a magic video

[@blaineholton6068]

Cam’s esper sentinel trigger resolves before hull breaker horror trigger right?

[@pe3der]

Nope. Both are cast triggers so they hit the stack in APNAP order

[@applefartty]

Which URZA is the bect cEDH commander in BRO?

[@didupaytheone2678]

Other gg in the books,love to see games like this,to much fish for me lol

[@GrizzledYoungVet]

"You can find me on Twitter but don't" Gotta respect it

[@thehermitdruid]

Heheheh

[@kingcherubix7064]

Is that a berserk deluxe edition book behind dylan in the video 👀😎 what a chad.

[@blakemcconnell6213]

Tyler won with Kinnan!! It makes me so happy. As a Kinnan player!!

[@mindfreak314]

For the Brother's War gameplay I'd like to see, if Mishra, Eminent One is any good. Trying to get infinite turns with Gonti's Aether Heart Besides that Myrel, Shield of Argive could also be intersting.

[@paulmcclain642]

I know we try pretty hard to keep this channel family friendly. But when Tyler hardcast Hullbreaker Horror…dear Viewer…I came

[@thehermitdruid]

Ngl I was in the pod and I still had a chub

[@pe3der]

100% with you man. I do not ever get sick of hard casting that shit in cedh

[@jonathantrigoura6545]

I see Coheed tattoo, I press like. 🤘 Nerds of the fence unite!

[@thehermitdruid]

AYOOOOOOO🗣🗣🗣

[@piloht4923]

I love the hermit druid's playmat

[@tristownsproductions7472]

The archimandrite definitely! And maybe portal to phyrexia!

[@matthewcowles6031]

What is perplexing chimera for?

[@alanschellenberger9356]

Jesus Tyler so many counters

[@traxefy5633]

I neeed you guys to upload more Podcasts episodes ♥️

[@sPontus]

Wait Nathan, one of my favorite people on Dab farm, one of my favorite decks? Lets dar-goooo!

[@thehermitdruid]

DAAAAARRRRGOOOOOOOOOO

[@titak7755]

Tyler is that guy who always asks the teacher if there is homework. Great game! It's hard to force interactions when the control player has Rhystic Study / Mystic Remora in play.

[@pe3der]

I literally was that guy you're not even wrong 😅

[@g_n9726]

Always saw Hermit Druid hype up Tymna/Dragon, might work on the decklist as my 2nd competitive deck

[@thehermitdruid]

YEYEYEYYEYE

[@xShiroiTears]

I fucking love Tyler so much

[@Rabbit3]

Pregame shout out: go kinnan!

[@koreyg8552]

Hermit Druid trying to force his win through two blue players especially with one of them being kinnan is a prime example of cedh. If someone letting someone draw insane cards as well as sucking interaction and giving the game away to the next player in order. Also the big debate of how hard should you push a win, perhaps it’s better to hold back if you get stopped once or twice just so you don’t punt the game

[@thehermitdruid]

Tbh I did beat the Kinnan it was the Rograkh I miscalculated on. 🤣😭🤣

[@Serouzo]

I don't get it, what does Perplexing Chimera do in the Kinnan list?

[@pe3der]

Short version: it's the ultimate stax piece. Any spell that could win the game, chimera can steal and stop that player. So most often they just don't cast em. On top of that, once you trade it, Kinnan late game can still advance under it with kinnan activations while 2/3 of your other opponents are STILL being held down by it... chef's kiss baby. Can't believe I slept on it for so long.

[@justinb845]

It would be cool to see a urza vs urza vs mishra vs mishra. Since they printed multiple of each. (Urza, Prince of Kroog vs Urza, Chief Artificer vs Mishra, Tamer of Mak Fawa vs Mishra, Eminent One)

[@lds4628]

You should talk about machine over matter, brotherhood end, defabricate and calamitys wake . Also play myrel stax :)

[@carboncuber3147]

Kinnan goes brrrr.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

As someone that plays against a Kinnan player, that's the way it goes.

[@EXQEX9]

Wow, this channel hard-passes the vibe check. If it's okay to ask, is there any chance you're considering more educational content in the future? :)

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Are you saying you’re hard passing on our vibe or the vibe is more than vibey enough?

[@aidansmith1198]

Queen kayla seems good among the commanders for brothers war but im not sure how strong it could be in cedh

[@ayllipkhieu8659]

I’m assuming pretty good bc you can advance your board state while ignoring all rule of law and other stax effects while keeping your hand at a decent size

[@ghost64626]

Please play Queen Kayal! She's the card I'm most looking forward to in Brothers War

[@buckeyemanboy]

MOAR NATHAN PLS MOAR DARGO PLS You guys the best, bring him back again!

[@therealax6]

For the new set, in terms of commanders, I wonder if Myrel can do anything. It's a powerful effect to have in the command zone, but a mono white commander that provides no value doesn't seem like it would go too far.

[@bend5963]

Doubling an army of soldiers every turn isn't value?

[@therealax6]

@@bend5963 True, but I feel like that's too small for a fast game like cEDH tends to be without extra combat phases. (The obvious comparison is Najeela, but that has the extra combats in the commander.)

[@bend5963]

@@therealax6 not if you’re playing rule of law while simultaneously locking out your opponents from interacting on your turn

[@therealax6]

@@bend5963 True, it could work. Now I want to see it!

[@pe3der]

I advocated for Myrel but we haven't locked in what we're filming yet.

[@SpicyPlay]

The man to angry to die Dargo. Dab farm is silly and have lost to both it and Nathan before. Thinking of giving the deck a shot.

[@jaydonthewarrior636]

In regards to the top 10, I can name a few cards, but honestly, most of this set power seems to be mainly in the command zone. Meticulous Excavation, one mana one card combo with dockside. Machine Over Matter is more or less an objective upgrade to Alchemist's Retrieval in Shorikai decks. That's all I can think of honestly. Honorable mentions to Sardian Avenger, I think some people may test him out to see how he stops treasure combos, but honestly, I don't think the loss of life he provides is enough to stop anyone from winning beyond exactly Korvold and even then I think it would be somewhat weak. I.e. an ok card that people will overhype for a month but probably isn't playable in cedh.

[@kaneman56]

I would like to see you guys play tawnos, solem survivor

[@markwilliams6008]

Tyler had the answer 😮