THE NITPICKING NERDS vs PLAY TO WIN GAME 2 - THE GITROG MONSTER vs SIDSI vs IKRA|KRAUM vs KARADOR

This week we're joined, once again, by Beezy and Joe Cheries of the Nitpicking Nerds to play some scary commanders!
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[@BDbiogamer]

Beezy's banter is honestly so funny in this episode, you guys have good chemistry together, awesome game! :D

[@chasm9557]

I think it's because they all have the right mindset for playing the game and they must also have had a good rule 0 conversation so that they're all on the same page for the expectations of how the game was going to be played.

[@Its-Lulu]

When Joe said they didn't know what they were doing, I felt that 😂

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

We all did lol

[@procyonbytes1523]

The smoke coming from Dylan's side as Beezy goes for the Hulk is definitely a highlight. 11:54

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

😈

[@dsnavely13]

Something worth noting: at 16:10, Beezy shouldn't have known the target of the Grist ability when deciding whether or not to do the Viscera Seer + Activated Sleeper stuff, since all that is done in the Grist ability is optionally sacrificing a creature. If he did those abilities in response to the sac, Cam would have had the option to either choose not to sac a creature, or choose a different creature to sacrifice, and if Beezy had done the abilities with the reflexive trigger from Grist on the stack, Cam would have had the ability to activate his artifacts, since there's another round of priority before another Ouphe hits the table. EDIT: reflexive, not delayed

[@keepingit.casual]

Was it not that Beezy was responding to the target of the reflexive trigger and Cam allowed the "Protean Hulk" trigger to resolve not knowing that Beezy would grab his own Collector Ouphe during resolution?

[@dsnavely13]

@@keepingit.casual Given that Collector Ouphe didn't hit the graveyard until after the Viscera Seer activations, I don't think so. Additionally, after the seer activations finished, Cam also could sac the Ouphe to kill Beezy's Ouphe, funnily enough.

[@keepingit.casual]

@David Snavely maybe I'm misunderstanding how reflexive triggers work. Once Cam sacs the Ouphe wouldn't that trigger the ability to target a creature to destroy? Or are the targets picked during the resolution of the Grist ability?

[@dsnavely13]

@@keepingit.casual Grist's ability activates, players get priority, then the ability resolves and Cam chooses a creature to sacrifice, if any. Then the destroy trigger goes onto the stack, and targets are chosen then.

[@ary31415]

@@dsnavely13 Ouphe was sacrificed at 15:52. The Viscera Seer activations were in response to the reflexive trigger, which already had a target

[@avatarofpapermagic]

4 of my favourite creators. Love it!! Thank you legends!

[@dave7592]

Beezy playing the most OP strategy ever and just sandbagging the whole game. My man!

[@johnayala771]

These episodes have that early Saturday morning cartoons vibe

[@bellona0544]

Oh sweet, didn’t know Joe came out! Nice to see some pretty darn awesome content creators go up against each other :)

[@bellona0544]

Also, Joe Theirries

[@Zelphiez]

This was a REALLY good episode. Great showing from everyone and their decks.

[@acesblue123]

Awesome episode! Really enjoyed watching you guys play cedh with the Nitpicking Nerds!

[@njsification]

Largest creature in play: "I can't possible win against a 3/2!" Get in the zone my brother.

[@gobenku1464]

This was a super fun episode to watch! I haven't seen a lot of the NPN, but it's cool to see you all play together and was a lot of fun.

[@paulandvy]

It was great meeting you guys at Okotoberfest! We chatted about IkraKraum Green grixis a bit, cool to see it pop up in a video again!

[@franslair2199]

Nice of Cam to livecast a 3-player cEDH game!

[@_jordaank_4970]

That base drop when the ad naus resolved was super funny lol 😂 counter spell wars are the best!

[@SvviftDeath]

Great game and I loved seeing my boy Karador in action, my favorite commander. For when you don't have the Survival to be able to freely discard a creature I play Body Snatcher in my Karador deck. I have used it many times to get the Protean Hulk out of my hand or in your case you could use it to Discard the Blood Artist, then Sac it to Reanimate the Hulk and then continue to search whatever else you needed to win the game. With your updated list it's less important now but it is worth Tooling with.

[@bryanlincks8323]

Love it! Always good see you all playing

[@marlonlam6959]

Oh man… some misplays and rule mistakes this game. Looks like the game I was playing last night 😂😂😂. Jokes aside you guys make the best cedh content! And it’s cool to see the nerds here!

[@phil4459]

I really enjoy the videos with the nitpicking nerds, super fun :)

[@leonardoherrera8908]

Wouldn't Beezy's Necropotence discards not get a void counter? Because instead of going into the graveyard it goes into exile instead. So since they never hit the graveyard in the first place, the Dauthi Voidwalker can't put a counter on it.

[@charohazard]

necro is a trigger that occurs when a card gets discarded to grave not a replacement so the card would be discarded, dauthi sees they being sent to the grave and they are exiled before they hit the grave so the necro trigger never even goes on the stack

[@daniescc9622]

Best episode i have seen in a while, great collab!

[@SMiTCHexe]

so cool seeing a game that really had everyone slugging it out, without an early win

[@adamsantiago4765]

We need more of this ! :)

[@murrowmench1565]

Such a great game. I still have an Abzan cEDH deck that USED to be Karador but is now Tymna Kodama just for value. Karador is too slow for the format in my opinion, and the card draw/permanent value from Tymna Kodama respectively is much more supportive to getting a win off the ground early than late game Karador is. I love Karador. He was my commander of my graveyard combo deck for about seven years. But cEDH is a different beast, and the hardest change was made to my command zone. GGs guys! Hope to see more from this pod in future videos

[@pookygallahad4749]

This looked like a lot a fun, very cool group of peeps all around

[@intention21]

16:46 "you thinking unhealthy thoughts 🤔?" Amongst other things you said had me laughing. Fun episode. Best channels for mtg content

[@deadNdivine12]

Whoa! Beezy and Cherries were on your guy's channel? Nice I missed when two of my favourite channels got together for a video.

[@connorl0204]

Boi that game was a SLOG for beezy cam and dylan. I cant remember the last time yall posted a 25 minute, single game video!

[@brucanthwood]

Best commander channel on KZbin!

[@TheCrazyBraz]

Beezy is a gah dayum bling lord

[@heroic_gamer2108]

Lol omg I love these games, super excited for the next set of games against the Nitpicking Nerds!

[@jerzysikorski4846]

Awesome game! I love the fact, that the player who casts mass removal get the win :)

[@DylanDillaPhDSine]

Cameron that opening was beautiful. Please never change.

[@andrewrockwell1282]

Love it! Love the Nerds, love PTW!

[@shredz6]

I am SO excited. I'm building Sidisi doomsday right now and have been praying for some sultai gameplay, but this is just so much more than I could have hoped for!

[@jakelarynx6347]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

Don't know if anyone caught it, but Necro discards don't go under Dauthi. @ replacement effects are happening, so the owner decides, and puts them to regular exile

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Nope. Necro is a triggered ability. Dauthi is a replacement effect

[@thomasnoonan2039]

Love seeing Kraumbat. Good game!

[@agustinprosello4687]

Nitpicking Nerds are awesome guests

[@jasonappel1253]

4:33 I think it’s your choice if they get voided or not since there are two replacement effects.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Necros exile ability is a trigger

[@sagegarrett1723]

So happy to see cam in 1975 merch 😌

[@jtvanilla1776]

Sick match. Love it

[@Honesty90Percent]

2:10 was well deserving off all the giggles

[@eduardoparanagua1031]

was there a window to activate cam's artifacts after he sacrificed his own Ouphe and before Beezy's protean hulk got him his?

[@carlosm1514]

Awesome episode!

[@ptp1999]

This episode was awesome.

[@TETTAhatHunger]

The rulings at Dauthi Voidwalker state "Playing a card with Dauthi Voidwalker's last ability is still subject to normal timing restrictions." So is the Aven Mindcensor at 5:20 illegal? I really don't know. But it sounds like you could play sorcery speed things with Voidwalker only on your turn. Complicated card :D

[@Ragnarok633]

Every game with a Gitrog is a good game!

[@AuraXars]

aside from the theme, what is the reason to run karador over something lika tymna X for absan hulk lists, just the redundancy lategame?

[@Iheartvengeance]

The ad naus music banger was on point

[@frankdetank9126]

That was fun a very reminiscent of a casual EDH game with powerful cards--"attack the one with card draw!" By the way, have you considered making a video on the best enchantress deck in cEDH?

[@DaxVerus]

I am hoping for a deep fried christmas begin and my year will be complete.

[@joskajiri]

u totally should do "an angel version" of "begins"

[@esrohm6460]

did i miss something spooky in december is this some krampus stuff

[@orsettomorbido]

What a great game!

[@nCedric1]

Big fan of Dylan's hairstyles every episode

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

What's This? What's This? Another Spicy Play to Win VIDEO!

[@joaovitorvazsantos7892]

The Nitpicking Nerdssss!!!!!

[@psyonicpanda]

How does the Necropotence exile effect and Dauthi Voidwalker work?

[@fosterdawson7339]

So Necropotence is a triggered ability that happens when the discarded cards hit the graveyard. Dauthi voidwalker replaces them going to the graveyard with exiling them with void counters.

[@therealax6]

I posted a reply, but I got it completely wrong! My fault for not reading the Necropotence oracle text. Necropotence's effect is a triggered ability ("whenever you discard a card..."), but Dauthi Voidwalker's effect is a replacement effect ("...exile it instead"). Dauthi's replacement effect applies as the card is discarded, the card never hits the graveyard and Necropotence never triggers.

[@donglord880]

unsure what the decklist looked exactly like--but i think the hulk player (beezy) could have won if they fetched yawgmoth, thran physician with their copied hulk. yawg's "pay a life, sac a creature:draw a card" ability + their scry would have let them go grab 4 cards (mox diamond, land, chrome mox, random black card) with which they could have cast the blood artist from hand and won the game with the saffi+karmic loop. may have missed some of these going to the yard though. in any event, hulking for teeg to prevent a wipe like culling ritual would have been nice too. Grat gameplay!

[@sebastianrodriguez9451]

did cameron activate mana crypt untap ability with an ouphe in play?

[@bigscrub1875]

My two favorite channels playing together!!

[@aklepatzky]

Why did Beezy put the cards with a void counter ? Necro Is a replacement effect he can choose to exile them

[@lomalindasmogcheck1]

4:17 Wouldn't Necropotence exile the discarded cards vs Dauthi?

[@lomalindasmogcheck1]

It works Dauthi gets the cards, checked gatherer. All good.

[@stevenlorenzo7399]

Are Krosan Grip and Grave Titan cEDH cards?

[@savinobalducci6148]

no, but Phyrexian Arena and Cultivate certainly are

[@Tspang42]

@@savinobalducci6148 highly debatable

[@hesnotbad9045]

Could beezy have discarded the blood artist to survival and reanimated it with dread return?

[@simondebesai5947]

why not just play altar of dementia in Beezy’s deck? the sack outlet doubles as the payoff

[@gypsieking3280]

Great game

[@zaq001]

Karador had a different line probably: Sac hulk get karmic get hulk Sac hulk get saffi get sleeper targeting hulk Sac saffi targetting sleeper Sac sleeper getting Reveillark Sac karmic and lark Get saffi and karmic getting lark Sac saffi targetting lark Sac lark and karmic Get saffi get karmic get Hulk Now you can get all creatures in your deck onto the field So if you're running something like dryad arbor and lotus cobra -> infinite mana -> cast blood artist

[@zaq001]

Oh, his list isn't running lark or a payoff for the line.

[@a_level_70_elite_raccoon]

Nice game.

[@JacobBos1988]

That Sidisi list looks kinda spicy.

[@TripsAhoy]

This was a funny game.

[@yscg-4277]

Surprised I haven’t seen too many Traezyn decks I think traezyn might be the best mono black cEDH deck because the combo is a little hard to interact with unless they’re playing graveyard hate specifically but even then he can dump even more combo pieces afterwards to keep going

[@darkdragonXD1]

Activation on survival exiles gadog teg since necro is on the table too

[@salchi-papa]

I just wanna know who on the P2W team is the fan of big room house?

[@maxsternburg1956]

Supposed to have put ad naus in exile when discarded to cabal therapy becasuse of necro

[@jeanmarais337]

nice game

[@freya002YT]

Cool

[@themagicgeek4765]

19:54 Abrupt Decay is a creature?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Lol I meant, “witch is a creature” as in divining witch.” But I see how that is not how it came off

[@themagicgeek4765]

@@PlaytoWinMTG Haha no worries. I just like to give people hell. Yall are doin great though. Thanks so much for the content you put out. It's made me a much better player overall

[@whiskerwhale4313]

My two favorite edh channels having a crossover!?! IS THIS REAL??

[@robertoruiz742]

Yay nightmares 🙃

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

😈

[@Danielsworlds]

Gitrog is a deck that I personally love but is nearly impossible to play in casual because it is so accidentally powerful. You're running cards that are just kind of good in the deck anyway minding your own goddamn business and then suddenly you oopsie into an infinite combo.

[@SamuelKacerik]

Maybe don't play combos then?

[@marlonlam6959]

Lmao. You def don’t oopsy into the win.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Gitrog is the kind of budget deck you can put 50 lands into and be fine, I tend to recommend it to beginners in EDH. I play Korvold and get a similar reaction, LOL, but I do have Gitrog in it as back up so that might have something to do with it also. I designed the deck around the concept that your going to eat all your lands like Galactus showed up to galaxy wide planet buffet, it's a fun riskay' way to play :P

[@ajaydassani9931]

One day would luv to see a battlecruiser edh game totally opposite of these games

[@alexmarshall4854]

epoic

[@justusnation66]

5:20 I don't think Dylan can cast Aven from the Dauthi in response to the abrupt decay. Dauthi doesn't break timing rules

[@fosterdawson7339]

Dauthi doesn't break timing restrictions BUT aven mindcensor has flash so he's still able to cast it

[@theroxenes]

It doesn't alter timing but Mindcensor has flash so it's a valid play.

[@justusnation66]

Thanks guys, my bad!

[@SkunkBubbaKush]

JESUS PIECE

[@alexandrepelletier5731]

THE 1975!!!

[@ingolf82]

oh Beezy... feels bad when you don't remember what is in your deck. you could have won on the spot there

[@ericpartridge8300]

DVoidwalker is just such a stinky card, it bothers me every time I see it hit the field. At my home table we all are allowed one card to ban, and that one should probably go on the list.

[@jormungardwe]

that man is cheating he discarded gaddock teg and ad nauseum to his graveyard with necropotence in play

[@_xoxomonster]

Agreed

[@dallashoover5431]

p♥r♥o♥m♥o♥s♥m 🙈

[@DeathSpeach]

When breezy discarded at the end of his turn with Necro out and Dylan's dothy voidwalker, those cards should have just been excited, not excited with void counters on it because both are replacement effects and he should have picked the option that doesn't benefit his opponents more.

[@iSpawnF]

Necro isn't a replacement effect. It has a trigger that exiles the card.

[@MtendoTheSkunk]

Survival+Necropotence is VERY bad. Beezy should be exiling every card they discard to Survival...

[@DPrior-gk6pd]

Beezy, you have been making vids long enough to buy a better webcam.