PLO vs NLHE: What’s the Real Difference?

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Joey Ingram and Tombos21 compare PLO and NLHE, discussing hand rarity charts, skill edges, new ways to visualize PLO ranges, and more!
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PLO vs NLHE: What’s the Real Difference?
0:00 Intro
2:04 Main Differences According to Joey
5:58 Win Rates by Position
10:29 "PLO is a game of equities, Hold'em is a game of frequencies"
14:16 Hand Rarity Charts
21:32 UTG Open Comparison
25:56 Filtering by Side Cards
28:16 BTN Open Comparison
31:28 Harmonic Opening Principle
33:55 BB Defense Comparison
39:39 ACR Reshuffle & Bunching
44:11 Roadmap
45:27 Outro
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[@GTOWizard]

Have you tried PLO? If yes, what was your experience like compared to NLHE?

[@DoubleBassX2]

Deciphering which two cards each hand uses feels way too slow for me especially when all-in and cards are coming quick. Even when the cards are face-up I don't quickly recognize which cards to root for haha.

[@dedc1982]

I love it, I mostly play PLO now

[@jamiebury1807]

I lost my bankroll very fast

[@Cuyl1989]

@@GTOWizard I feel PLO needs more geometric thinking, NLHD doesn’t coz I feel I can break down to different format and the results of river winning combo after the whole logical line doesn’t have that much. I don’t know if my thinking is right or wrong. I just feel Chart of PLO can by 3 Axis

[@UncleJoeLITE]

For mathematically inclined people, plo is a much better game to play imo. The uncertainties are bigger but more 'manageable', if that makes sense. Also i has not been 'solved', giving maths people an edge.

[@joeingram1]

Thanks for the discussion Tombos!

[@gesus.christ99]

when GTO wizard PLO solutions?

[@joeingram1]

Same thing I am wondering

[@itsrrraven]

that spreadsheet is the coolest thing ive ever seen in my life. ive made some neat sheets before but that one blew my mind

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Thanks, I'm a huge PLO fan, used to play a lot but bugger all games around Canberra AU lol. RFI charts are 3d - ie more a database than a spreadsheet. Joey's points on hands that can withstand a changing board texture & thinking ahead like chess makes a lot of sense.

[@nonsequiter5411]

We want our cheaper and more efficiently visualized PLO trainer and solutions NOW

[@owenkeith1188]

Hey, just wanted to say AWESOME video in terms of the graphics (graphs, numbers, data is the star of the show - no more giant AI art every slide!). Thank you for listening to the community feedback and I hope this continues with your future videos.

[@Cuyl1989]

So much info, gain a lot of new knowladge for solve poker problem.

[@assel0077]

I add more and more PLO MTTs to my schedule. I think it has great potential. Please build GTO Wizard for it

[@matheusstotti]

tombos u such a diamond rarety piece of mind imo

[@menhunttt]

Plz bring PLO Solutions for us!!

[@ladynomuck7857]

Thank you for the video! When is that PLO chart coming out?!!

[@chrisdangelo6047]

Ike haxton said plo is a game of equties and holdem is a game of frequency

[@jamessedlacek]

Is this spreadsheet available anywhere?

[@FishFacePoker]

having win rates by position for PLO suggests you already have Sims for PLO? When are they going to become available?

[@gangjinnsplays4312]

I'm curious how do you make charts with each individual cells having 2 or more colors. To symbolize different actions

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

More NLH/PLO mixed MTTs is actually better!

[@paulliberti8094]

PLO Matrix ftw

[@matheusstotti]

PLO Trainer that Joe uses?

[@matheusstotti]

28:00 - what about we develop a tesseract program to study PLO instead? A one you can move and be on the center of it - could even be using a 3D glass lol kkkkkkkk

[@mhamid8529]

Ahhhh all of these comments please can the GTO nerds keep away from plo you’ve already ruined NLHE

[@maxvaluemax]

I demand PLO

[@St3.]

I'm the best rapper that also plays poker. End of.

[@NoahMaryanoffPoker]

You’re not Hoodie Allen