Plup vs Prince Abu - The Weirdest Set Ever Played

[@LunarDuskSSBM]

Glad to see that Melee Stats is taking a crack at the "Short documentary that you watch at 3 AM even though you don't really care about the topic" genre

[@dizzydee4889]

Just finished this at 3:28am. Goodnight.

[@theimpulsivevulcan5346]

Gave me emplemon vibes

[@jonesy2009]

Way to call me out

[@radreviewz9482]

Can confirm. It is 3:18 now in the morning. You are basically spot on.

[@Roupization]

can we get some more channel recommendations in this genre? I honestly love it, and am looking for more

[@evetslon]

I wasn't aware of that port priority moment. Insane

[@salvadorhenriquez4091]

That port priority is actually important

[@viviblue7277]

Salvador Henriquez eh it basically makes most of your moves half a frame faster which isn’t a huge advantage

[@expertoflizardcorrugation3967]

@@viviblue7277 tiniest possible advantage... But damn when it shows up it's always unexpected. At least for me

[@eleven9286]

Never understood the whole port priority thing, in terms of why they even designed it that way. Why wouldn’t the developers make every port, you know, identical?

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@eleven9286 to avoid having to deal with the scenario of them grabbing each other and just getting locked in place or something It really is one of the only realistic way of dealing with it other than awarding priority by something else random like weight they could write code to cancel both attacks out or something, but it's such a niche scenario that people would be confused and it risks adding more bugs

[@clonesharpshooter101]

“They’re sitting in tacky chairs...” Well, I guess we’re not after the Vertagear sponsorship here, lol

[@boiboi7717]

it's all about them 300 dollar Pewdiepie chairs

[@thetextbookgamer]

That's exactly what I thought and was went directly to the comments

[@gamertygonl]

@@boiboi7717 399*

[@0Synergy]

Cool story, most of those chairs arent very different from the chinese brand ones, same factory, same materials same well everything just a different brand name.

[@incongruous4]

Using a race car chair to game with is tacky though

[@johnleecooper8520]

would love more deep dives like this into random sets

[@theimpulsivevulcan5346]

Amen

[@aaronhoang6233]

one set id love to see is m2k vs plup at summit. where m2k lost 2 games in the sheik ditto, went fox game 3, and then marth game 4-5 and did the reverse 3-0. that was so crazy/weird

[@EliTheGleason]

Pleeeeeeease

[@rafaelbernardo3132]

i just started watching this video but yup

[@danissel5451]

Yeah like that one with wizzrobe and zain a while back when wizzy fucking died for a quick second

[@ElectricalFlame]

Something that's always interested me about Plup is how he just does this kind of thing ALOT. Winning or losing, if he doesn't wanna play he just kinda gives up mid-set. He's still good enough that him not trying can still net him a set win as this set also proves. I've always felt like Plup could be the best player in the world if he just had the mental fortitude to continue playing as incredible as he's shown capable to do. It's definitely not easy to have that will, especially against even better players, but he's capable of so much and he's so emotive you can see the moment he tunes out the game usually, at any time in the set. This set and video is a really good introspective on a big trend for someone like Plup. Great video.

[@polynices2461]

Lots of people play like that but plup does it and is crazy good so I don't even know.

[@Annarassa]

Isah was the same way bro. He could beat anyone he wanted, he just didn't feel like it

[@leonperezgalvan8002]

He has improved a lot his mentality, his sets against hungrybox at last summit were very close and didn't feel like he gave up mid set

[@mlalbaitero]

That could be said about anyone

[@illford]

@@mlalbaitero but it's very obvious for Plup. I've never seen someone more insulting in giving up than Plug because he can play brilliantly yet he gives up. He could've won yet he gives up.

[@JacobGeller]

This absolutely kicks ass. Great job.

[@somedudethatdoesthings8057]

Nice to see you here. Love your stuff, man. :)

[@spiderfingers2113]

I knew you were a man of culture. Love your vids aswell my guy

[@calacatchy]

jacob geller knows melee... what

[@nuclearcatpotatoe3714]

oh hey its jacob !

[@matsushitathefifth2862]

The Mario galaxy guy!

[@FrekyD]

10:42 well alright he can bring it back with.. 30 really good reads _awwww_

[@mrgreenboy644]

How do you do italics on YT? *I only know how to use bold*

[@exigency2231]

@@mrgreenboy644 you use the _ character. _I put the character around this statement_

[@mrgreenboy644]

@@exigency2231 _2 years late, but _*_thanks!_*

[@GimR]

This video is amazing.

[@kennynguyen4984]

GimR's Lab sure is

[@etats515]

Back to the lab again (oh no) back to the lab again (we messed up)

[@dtoskar]

You know what else is? Today’s sponsor, raid shadow legends!!!!

[@miloda_bess]

Yes

[@SS2Balls]

Back to the lab again

[@turndownforwalt]

Simply excellent.

[@shromp2034]

We live in a society where 2 documentary creators comment on each other’s documentaries

[@linkXness]

Not-So-Funfact - The Tournament was held in the very same hotel that was the place of the most deadly mass shooting in us history.

[@FieldsOfConfusion]

nice

[@FieldsOfConfusion]

nice

[@simbosatosa65]

Half expecting jon bois to hop on

[@JackFlash771]

It's a straight rip-off. A great deep dive, but should have its own style.

[@simbosatosa65]

@@JackFlash771 this is incorrect, there wasnt a single graph.

[@cameronguitarhero]

@@JackFlash771lmao no

[@jakefromstatefarm6969]

@@JackFlash771 jon doesnt own this genre, hes just awesome at it

[@jakefromstatefarm6969]

@@JackFlash771 ok mr flash

[@jaydenyamada2916]

I don't even play melee, but watching a game get dissected like that is phenomenal.

[@supremechaosbeing2696]

15:46 "a few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent."

[@dylan_5]

I think one of my favorite ultimately insignificant sets in Melee history has to be Taj vs. Colbol at The Big House 6. It was Taj's only major tournament that year, and he hadn't made a particularly notable run at any Melee tournament since Evo 2013 over three years prior. Then out of nowhere, he comes back to beat the No. 25 player in the world with Mewtwo, finishing in 33rd. From what I remember, that was Taj's last really notable win at a major tournament.

[@benzed37]

the big house 6 is full of those sets. axe vs r2dliu, zain vs plup (it didn't matter for a while, after that) and I think rudolph vs ice? Big House is always filled with anomalous sets.

[@Mario1023001]

until now

[@Berlinwood27]

"sometimes when you play super smash brothers, you just lose" but that wasn't the tale it was a tale of plup getting lazy with his strategy and losing because of it lol. And plup has lost the same way to hbox a few times later.

[@btf_flotsam478]

I think he mentioned enough of that in the video. His main point is that life isn't a story, where there's a clear main thread that summarizes absolutely everything. This is sometimes true, but the world is often a lot more complicated than that. If Melee, and the world in general, had a script, then there would be tons of dropped plot arcs and no deeper meaning. Looking for grand narratives generally ends up with you being flat-out wrong. Sometimes, there is no real deeper meaning to analyze.

[@palmid6069]

@@btf_flotsam478 Correct. Came here to say exactly that.

[@BenjoCovers]

so its just boring

[@Berlinwood27]

@@BenjoCovers in almost anything competitive you need far more patience than in regular play. Even if it is aggressive in nature and requires you to explode in energy, at certain times. unless maybe, hot dog eating competitions or something lol.

[@BenjoCovers]

​@@Berlinwood27 that was an answer to "Sometimes, there is no real deeper meaning to analyze."

[@AnvilPro100]

God, I've seen the EmpLemon video, but imagine being as good at the game as Hungrybox that people pay to fly in another player just to practice against him to be ready for you

[@HM03_Surf]

“Tied with a Swedish Fox main” lmao

[@bl4ckbl4z39]

that comment freaking killed me, and the lack of emphasis on it just sells it so much

[@SuperBugCatcher]

The epilogue is so moody. Its like smooth jazz plays while dude is lost in thought while smoking a cigarette in some hidden bar with neon lights.

[@jmccullough975]

The song is called soulful if you’re interested

[@SJNaka101]

Its a classic! Pretty sure it was in one of the guardians of the galaxy movies, so it's one of those oldies that'll last a long time

[@maxono1465]

@@jmccullough975 you are a legend

[@20102010b]

This is... Dare I say, Pretty Good

[@minimunch7]

Don't give me hope

[@burntsiennaleigh]

was grinning like an idiot this whole video, this is like everything i've ever wanted. great stuff

[@mitch.e2960]

Is no-one gonna talk about the bird alligator thing... That blew my mind. Apparently it's cuz the alligator gets food caught in it's teeth so to avoid infections it let's birds clean the food out and eat what they want from it teeth.

[@gluessb]

I swear I thought this was common knowledge

[@scouthatesrainbows]

@@gluessb I thought that whole thing was actually an urban myth?

[@suned3128]

No... I learned it on discovery channel... or school... or a book... I really don’t remember... because it’s I also feel like it’s common knowledge...

[@gluessb]

Tom C. ?? I wasn’t making fun of them, sorry if it came out that way. It’s just a thing I was taught in elementary school, I’m being a bit close minded I suppose.

[@ryankeenan4425]

Symbiotic relationship

[@johns3713]

This is like the best melee-related video I've ever seen, and I've seen PTAS' Peach break the Targets WR History video

[@SSB_Seal]

Stuff like this is just another reason why I love you guys. Please, please make more videos in this style! The storytelling and analysis is so enjoyable to listen to, and that outro was perfect. Also, I watched this set live on twitch, and I remember being stuck in absolute disbelief for nearly an hour after this set. It was simply insane to witness, especially as a big Plup fan.

[@kayiu102]

Man, this might be my favorite piece of smash content ever, and that's saying something.

[@saadinhalf]

As a tennis player Every single analogy and parallel you draw is just incredible and I love it

[@catisticallyspeaking]

I just want to say that the editing here is truly top notch. I was blown back by the introduction, good job fam.

[@leaffinite2001]

Barely 1:30 and man does this give off Jon Bois vibes. In a good way. Edit: dear god please make more videos like this. Very good stuff

[@orpheos9]

Rip off or not I'm here for it. Love this kind of content

[@leaffinite2001]

@@JackFlash771 idk if id go that far. It utilizes rhetorical techniques found in most successful online analysis vids, just the jon bois influence is the most obvious. Most people who start this way gradually develop their own style with time

[@BlepSSBU]

I was thinking this the whole time. I'm all here for a melee version of John Bois

[@cameronguitarhero]

@@JackFlash771 you're wrong

[@nivlraccarlvin]

Jon Bois? Pretty good.

[@RDKelly12]

Dude I really like what you're going for with the quotes. My favorite author prefaced every chapter with a quote and it really expanded the context of the ensuing chapter

[@pippincovington1348]

Omg I've been wanting John Bois style Melee content for so long!!

[@Player_0914]

Love me a melee stats production

[@GlennHope]

Fantastic deep dive! Loved the narration, the quotes, and the narrative. Looking forward to more like it!

[@kadenhurst1129]

Extremely well done man -- was a super fun watch and appreciated the accompanying commentary. More videos like this would definitely be appreciated!!

[@drakoz254]

More like this, PLEASE! A Jon Bois for melee is a dream come true.

[@dunx1574]

12:22 "he is unable to hit prince abu.. for the next....... !!!!TTTWWWEEENNNTTTYYY!!!!... SECONDS..." holy shit, TWENTY SECONDS????? A WHOLE THIRD OF A MINUTE???? WEIRDEST FUCKING SET EVER CONFIRMED

[@HumanVenipede]

I love lore and history like this, and I remember watching this set live on stream. Great video :) I'd say my takeaway was that the margins are so small at top level melee that you can't ever take a single game off, sometimes not even a stock. Hope to see more videos like this!

[@thatcomona]

I love how so, so similarly in tone this matches a Jon Bois video, except like, more normal. As someone who is both a huge stats nerd and competitive games/sports person, this appeals to me so much.

[@Trystaticus]

i see someone's been watching jon bois this goes down real smooth

[@TimSylviaFilms]

I never thought I’d be this invested in a doc about a melee set I’d never heard about. Well done, this video whips ass.

[@LacedWithOreos]

This channel is incredibly, INCREDIBLY underrated

[@shibuyasnobody9279]

Bruh yall got a type of humor thats so original, great video!

[@jarroddobben]

This was a fucking masterclass in narrative (maybe lack thereof). Please keep doing this. So incredibly well written

[@bradwurst8141]

Incredible work. I watched this live and certainly don't remember it happening lol, much less how it happened. Shoutouts to jon bois

[@WeatherScreport]

stellar video my guy. Good music, tasteful quotes from legendary ppl, great breakdown of smash culture/context, gameplay and personalities. Would watch many more

[@two_knocks]

incredibly good video, i hope melee stats continue doing these

[@LSDcrackers226]

"Sometimes when you play Smash Bros, you just lose" Fuck I felt that

[@monkey8554]

Those transitions are other worldy, the music, the quotes perfectly describing the situation, the graphic

[@M4TTM4TT]

Love docs in the style of summoning salt. I would watch these all day, good stuff :)

[@MarMaxGaming]

Haha woah! Nice production value and great job setting the stakes! Really enjoyed this :)

[@christophercole1679]

Thats so badass. Having your community want you around. Even if your not the best player, that's just awesome. Melee is above all about making friends.

[@lambmaster27]

Such a good quality video man. Thank you!

[@fursuitjumpscare]

Keep on making videos like this, you're very well spoken and I think it's enjoyable.

[@Audio_Titan]

Awesome video! Love this longer-form type of content, yall killed it. Can't wait to see what else is in store

[@JKelly756]

Man I haven’t played or watched competitive melee in over 5 years but I still come back for these videos

[@theindianfury]

This has some great Jon Bois, SB Nation energy

[@alloeVideo]

Plup has been my favorite player for a while now, and this video really does him justice. He’s a Melee genius, but even he can get impatient against Puff.

[@stephenschuster3555]

This is like when Fatality JV4d goblin and still lost the set

[@lucasmcnamee3658]

I'm just now getting into the melee community and I have to say that this community has the most criminally underrated content. It's so high effort if you look at stuff like this and turndownforwalt

[@cedarxric329]

Big fan, gotta say, that opening is outstanding. The pace the build up, love it

[@Top10-z8c]

that format is extremly entertaining and interesting. keep going with this format

[@Crimsonchinn]

I absolutely love your filmmaking style and you have earned a subscriber! Excellent work.

[@RektYuan]

This is a very nice video. I love video essays on game i know nothing about like summoning salt. Great job at editing and commentary

[@jameswasmynamo]

just drunk enough for this to hit just right. miss melee tournaments. thanks for the great vid

[@Jytami]

This is sooo relaxing to watch. And the production is godlike

[@firstlast3313]

This is so good! Please keep doing these!

[@PeptoAbismol]

i love these kinds of analysis videos. there’s just something so comfy about them.

[@kazaam8230]

One of my favorite weird sets is n0ne vs Forrest at The Big House 9. Last back to back four stock I remember like that was Sfat and Mew2king at Genesis 3. Crazy mentality from a then unranked player.

[@hernique]

Commenting in another videos because I became a huge fan of your work! I see the Jon Bois inspiration too and with that level of storytelling, it just makes sense. Great video

[@125micah]

This is an incredibly well put together video. Thank you for it!!

[@kurukq]

I dont think that was the "weirdest set ever" but it did have some weird moments thats for sure. Not really sure why this video was made but I'm happy it was. I appreciate the effort put in and I'd be happy to see more like this.

[@iirelative9797]

This channel is amazing, thank you for the great documentaries

[@iirelative9797]

Seriously hot damn, what a great video!!! I was actually tearing up a little bit to the outro. Thanks for going through all the trouble to make this TOTALLY FASCINATING EPIC history known. Been playing Smash since I was little and didn't know how deep this community is

[@melvinleamen1037]

This was a really cool video! Would love to see more single set deep dives like this, the style of the video is great.

[@Smoofmaster]

Damn this is amazing, would love to rewatch it in 1080p. Truly Excellent Content. It has a certain beauty to it.

[@Enochuout]

Ahh, this was beautiful. Thank you for the fantastic content Melee Stats.

[@rosettastoned7164]

Editing is fantastic. Subbed.

[@Slann_ted]

Loved it. Would love to see more, great job melee stats

[@allthingsgaming6]

You, sir, are the Jon Bois of Melee. Thank you.

[@11equalsfish]

This is one of the best videos I've seen on youtube.

[@vishuddasmash5024]

This was so well made, good shit. Would love to see more vids like this.

[@kal2045]

I've been wondering how long it would take for someone to make a Jon bois video for melee. You knocked it out of the park, by the way. Great video.

[@jamiecal11]

From here, Plup at supermajors (The Big House, Genesis, EVO) finished 2nd, 1st, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd). Really impressive run that people don't talk about much, though he has faded since.

[@CDXX_]

Plup was #2 on summer rankings 2018, I think about it every day

[@jayhaw2066]

Omg I love the video documentary style you guys used for this video. Fucking A+ work

[@BigGhoul53425]

Never seen a video from this channel but I love this video

[@dragoniota]

This is incredible content. I would love more breakdowns like this!

[@JoshandErik]

I was gonna be salty about the John Bois similarities but y'all had a special thanks for him at the end of the credits. Respect.

[@Benetheburrito]

what a great and high quality vid, keep up the good work

[@brettgibson1014]

This has to be the best KZbin channel

[@btf_flotsam478]

A game that springs to mind with a similar "meaning" is the 1st game of The Lake vs Nintendude. A Zelda main 4-stocked one of the best ICs mains in the world... and loses the set. This set does have a lot more views, however.

[@LifeOrbPlusle]

I love the jon bois influence here. Awesome vid

[@Jayluna98]

Great video really well put together

[@JoJo-rm8lc]

10:39 Lol that “No” was so sassy.

[@wieran35000vr]

Didn't expect to hear Memme in a Melee video, sick stuff.

[@ianmoore5502]

Gosh the artistry in the editing and script is untouchable.

[@mitty9010]

Freaking sHOWING UP with the Noisy Freaks remix off the bat. A+ my man

[@mochaolait199]

I honestly am not a fan of Melee, but you did Jon Bois' unorthodox, attention-grabbing storytelling method such justice that I was absolutely thrilled this whole video. Great work, and, while I'm at it, what a _bizarre_ series of events.

[@cycy8699]

9:35 the absolute confidence in this man to basically go “this is how it ends, and youre gonna be HOOKED”

[@SeniorGabri]

I honestly don’t comment too often here on KZbin but I think this might be the best video I think I’ve ever seen on this platform so far... thanks for making this masterpiece.

[@andybear6617]

You should some emplemon vids. His hbox vid is fantastic like this

[@Glennjamyyyn]

Two years later and this is still a banger of a video

[@matthewwhoseph6437]

Excellent editing; especially the music choices.

[@jasongranados5783]

bro this is literally an amazing video

[@antufcti]

This is sick it gives a real emplemon vibe dope vid man