This video was an absolute blast. Thank you so much for featuring me! I also want to take this moment to thank wizzrobe for being an amazing player and good sport. The kids nice and I'm proud to say we stood toe to toe on the field of battle ⚔️
@PhilipWalker3 жыл бұрын
Hi, just wondering, are you Dart33 on Slippi? If you are I played against you a few weeks ago!
@Bones03 жыл бұрын
Legend.
@DoctorCyan3 жыл бұрын
Aw that’s sweet
@natecallon97553 жыл бұрын
ur fuckin amazing dude
@prof_jelly3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you good sir
@albyrt_3 жыл бұрын
I love these mini docs about these crazy hidden narratives in melee
@SuperMrSuperHero13 жыл бұрын
“Losing sucks” *swaps to idbw cam” 😂
@OGKidMelee3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@E-Brightvoid3 жыл бұрын
“HE QUIT COLLEGE FOR THIS” -Vish
@crooker233 жыл бұрын
that final fist bump was an attempted murder
@vapedragon9833 жыл бұрын
It was FORCEFUL. There was some kinda energy in that hand punch
@Lowrholler3 жыл бұрын
F....Falcon Punch
@MultiAsdasad3 жыл бұрын
for real, but its disrespectful after all, so much no sense hate there lmao
@genericdeveloper39663 жыл бұрын
@@vapedragon983 Just seems like Dart has some anger issues.
@archivelibrarian68182 жыл бұрын
@@MultiAsdasad hows it disrespectful? obviously youre going to have emotions running through your head right after beating the best falcon player in the world
@MaxwellWilliams423 жыл бұрын
I love how human these stories are. It makes them a great window into the melee scene for somebody like me who knows how smash works but has never been interested in actual competition.
@dodosilent3 жыл бұрын
In case you don’t know it yet, I strongly recommend the videos about Axe and Apex 2015 by Turndownforwalt. Same energy, beautiful stories
@jman20503 жыл бұрын
Dart: “I have to kill Falcon. It’s not a hope, or a dream. It’s like a hunger. A thirst…”
@arJunebugSmash3 жыл бұрын
Solid vid, Dart is sick; he gave me dope Falcon v. Marth tips as well Goes without saying, but Wizzy also told me back at SnS Dart was by far the best Marth he had ever seen in that matchup lol
@turtlechamp83253 жыл бұрын
Best marth at the MU, not Falcon
@prof_jelly3 жыл бұрын
Dart is a fucking badass. Driving three hours to take down a god. Hats off.
@AlmostProGaming3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I always enjoy the lore of little rivalries I didn't know about in the melee scene. Thanks for the upload!
@ilovebluestorm3 жыл бұрын
The way Scar couldn't handle the comments of Laudandus at the start is absolutely golden.
@Br0k3nS41nt2 жыл бұрын
This is literally the only time I’ve seen wizzy even closely angry at the close of a set. Everyone rates him as one of the nicest people in melee.
@Dzuh Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, makes me wanna share a personal story: This is back in 2015; I'm a Dr Mario player, and I had the same absolutely vitriolic hate but for Marth. We'd host a national tournament in London every month or so called Kickstart, and 2 weeks before Kickstart 2 I got knocked out of locals by a Marth player. Absolutely fuming about it, I decided all I was doing for the 2 weeks leading up to it was figuring out Marth. I was on smash ladder, at the locals, only playing against Marth, taking notes about Marth, and malding about Marth. Come to the national, and I get put in a pool with... only Marths. I lose to the top seed, but beat the pants off every other Marth in my pool and make it into bracket for the first time in my life. I'm absolutely over the moon about it, and go get a sandwich to relax and wait for bracket proper to start. I get back to the venue, sit in the communal area by the friendly setups, and suddenly I hear behind me: "Dude Doc's down smash is so broken." I turn around, and it's one of the Marths I beat from my pool, playing friendlies. He doesn't realise I'm there, and I get to listen to a Marth player complain about my character the way I always complain about theirs. A sandwich has honestly never tasted so good ☺️
@TylerjX55 ай бұрын
Haha, that's great
@TheCinemaphobic3 жыл бұрын
The irony of a Sheik player complaining about lame characters is absolutely hilarious
@mlalbaitero3 жыл бұрын
it’s complaining about one character
@mattcupp85063 жыл бұрын
I mean Captain Falcon is just as lame as Sheik. Its just that he gets cool animation on the knee.
@Lenno943 жыл бұрын
@@mattcupp8506 Sheik shieldgrab galore proved me otherwise
@sleepyhead46273 жыл бұрын
@@mattcupp8506 can be just as lame* but only if you don't try to get creative with your combos
@mattcupp85063 жыл бұрын
@@sleepyhead4627 I think that can be applied to sheik as well.
@pacnb3 жыл бұрын
Marth players getting Falcon throw combo'd with literally every different arial because they can't DI: "God Falcon is so lame and braindead" Marth players doing a combo invented in 2004 that's 7 fairs in a row to a guaranteed dair: "Damn I'm so custom"
@jakefromstatefarm6969 Жыл бұрын
Marth players: Random knee so stupid Also Marth players: Random fsmash tipper
@Zetts3 жыл бұрын
Damn!!! I never knew about the Rubicon rematch, I got chills during the part of this! Fantastic work as always boys
@RiahGreen Жыл бұрын
AND YOSHI! YOSHI AND PIKACHU ARE THE FACES OF MELEEEEE
@alecschwartz52423 жыл бұрын
i love how these mini docs kind of feel like satire. melee docs love to make these story lines feel epic but these make them seem so ordinary but weird enough to be interesting.
@SSB_Seal3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome to see Dart get the recognition he deserves for his ridiculous ability in the matchup, and also for being the only player to ever defend Chicago at a Rubicon! I'm really glad that more people will know about this story from my local scene, and especially from such a quality Melee Stats video. Thanks for making this one!
@Nebuchadnezzar_Hekatonkheires3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that he wasn't in Chicago anymore when he won XD
@irishjet26873 жыл бұрын
@@Nebuchadnezzar_Hekatonkheires Yeah, but he was still living in Illinois. Close enough!
@trevork74203 жыл бұрын
Flashback to SCL2 week 2, Wizzrobe fighting Zane, best Marth and best player in the world. No prep, no sweat. There's only one Marth that Wizzrobe fears, and he's confined to the midwest.
@richcast663 жыл бұрын
He must have a friend that mains falcon like I do. I've been fighting falcon like he's my archenemy for like 15 years, even across multiple smash games
@jamiecal113 жыл бұрын
The complete lack of sympathy towards Wizzy and his medical condition is astounding to me. Based on this vid alone you'd swear he goes out of his way to wind people up.
@eftorq3 жыл бұрын
Imagine calling Falcon lame while being a Marth main - this post was made by a lame Falcon main
@narhwallord69853 жыл бұрын
@@bigslaps Eh. Every character is sickk tho. Except Peach. Armada ruined Peach looking sick. No hate on him. He just made her look like a flowchart of destruction.
@KasranFox3 жыл бұрын
be sure to stay hydrated if you're gonna be consuming this much salt
@sdw-hv5ko3 жыл бұрын
Every (good) Melee character is fucking sick as hell and also broken and stupid. It's beautiful to watch
@lorenzoricci45513 жыл бұрын
Really cool video as always. I got to admit, it feels so weird to be in 2021 and hear Falcon called broken, how many years has passed where everybody shittin on him, or sayin it won't win a major or is not viable. Really cool video, I'd like to watch other stories like this one I didn't know, much love to everyone who plays melee in the world
@stanz3 жыл бұрын
this video is so good LMAO
@MrCalpolkid3 жыл бұрын
Minesweeper king himself blessing SSBM
@eternalstar43523 жыл бұрын
Ah man Final Fantasy X music. Don't hear that often in videos, as background noise. Had no idea Falcon was so disliked lol. From my casual perspective, he's quite fun to play as and against, but of course I've never played comptitive smash. These types of moments are so interesting. RIP all Falcons who faced off against Dart.
@_Majunior3 жыл бұрын
Every character is disliked tbh lol
@Boss_Firo3 жыл бұрын
@Starbreaker56 I think it’s FF7 music
@lzls43793 жыл бұрын
@@Boss_Firo It's mostly FFX but the Cosmo Canyon remix is 7 obviously.
@parkerargyle41123 жыл бұрын
I loooove these local stories - thanks for giving them a voice!
@Faulheit3 жыл бұрын
stc having a breakdown rn
@lagalil3 жыл бұрын
Smash bros melee stories to relax/study to. Really, this video is so calming to listen to while being extremely engaging
@raincatchfire3 жыл бұрын
This video held my attention the whole way through!
@valentinperrot353 жыл бұрын
Melee Stats, everything you put out is at such an absurd standard of quality. If anyone makes it, I really hope its yall. Chills at every video.
@robinrai49733 жыл бұрын
When you git gud against one character out of pure pure spite I fucken love it
@vietnamgamer94903 жыл бұрын
This really highlights the difference between playing and spectating. As someone who exclusively spectates I still like him. Stomp knee is stupid but it’s fun to watch.
@lzls43793 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the music feature! Huge melee fan. The world isn't ready for my story of getting bodied by Anther in my first tournament back in 06-07.
@anokhpalakurthi96283 жыл бұрын
just so you know; I listen to your remixes pretty much every day at work. when you release a new FF remix, it's the highlight of my week. you've probably seen me comment on your videos before and I pretty much cite you as a constant in all the Melee Stats videos I work on. the fact that you're a Melee fan too (!!!!!) makes it so much cooler that your music fits well with the stories I want to tell. bless sincerely, the creator of this video
@lzls43793 жыл бұрын
@@anokhpalakurthi9628 yeah dude! Definitely recognize you. I'm finally back to work on my FF8 mix after taking a bit of a break so I should hopefully have some new stuff to share soon. Keep making melee magic; as we all know, melee is sick.
@ethanmurdock27343 жыл бұрын
Such a great vid. Always incredible how the Melee Stats folks can find and tell these stories
@matthewzakrzewski17973 жыл бұрын
That mini rant was very vindicating as a falcon hater. For years the narrative has been that not only is falcon the coolest character in the game, but that he's underpowered, so that falcon players could do guaranteed shit and then act like the underdog when a sheik techchases them to death. Wizzrobe is my favorite falcon for being the "lamest" yet being far and away the best for such a long period of time.
@alicon8523 жыл бұрын
Whenever I get mad at smash I watch one of your videos, cuz everything about the way their presented, the stories they tell, and the way they make you feel, they just make me wanna play the game.
@Simikins3 жыл бұрын
The little stories you guys pick out are awesome. Keep it up.
@nathanzavala28613 жыл бұрын
Falcon didn't expect for the moves to be shown
@33kappa13 жыл бұрын
>tfw marth mains complain about anything as if their character isn't the easiest character in the game to be good with >EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS MOVE'S IS GOOD IN ALMOST EVERY SITUATION *"fair fair nair fair OUU SIDE B fair fair nair dair COUNTER dair fair nair up air up air up air up air bair up air"* at least fox takes some time to learn smfh. i hate it when marths hit me with the taunt after f smashing my recovery 3 times in a row as if that took any fucking thought like WOW UR SO COOL. the audacity it takes to complain about something like stomp knee when fucking anything into everything works 100% of the time as marth is astronomically insane NOT EVEN TO MENTION THAT falcons downthrow tech chase game is useless against marth and upthrow rarely ever leads into anything. vs marth is one of the few matchups where dash back or full hop can actually be a death sentence cause his fucking giant sword catches EVERYTHING FOR FREE. marth is literally easier to play than puff and you can't prove me wrong ok im done sorry for being so salty i had to get this out of my system
@supersylveonplushgaming3 жыл бұрын
I love these melee documentaries that tell the narratives behind the game
@RawwestHide3 жыл бұрын
This is what it's all about. Props to y'all for showcasing local legends and stories Also, as somebody who mained Marth and had a Falcon training partner, I felt this entire video hard.
@gmoner3 жыл бұрын
your videos make the melee scene history like an anime
@TaiSharTanner3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content, this channel needs more attention ASAP!
@sigurdtheblue3 жыл бұрын
This is another motivating video. I might hate Pyra in Ultimate, but it could become the reason I beat the character better than others.
@beniderentspannte85063 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the best videos I've seen in a while
@Ruckus7903 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch this channel I glance down at the sub count and wtf this channel is too good to be below 100k
@youtubeobserver3 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight: Puff is lame because bair spam and planking Peach is lame because cc downsmash and generally defensive play Marth is lame because of FD counterpick and ledge cheese Ice Climbers are lame because of wobbling Sheik Falco is lame because the netplay falco community Fox is lame because of the over-abundance of top players that use him Pikachu is lame because chaingrab and upair gimps Low and mid-tiers are lame because “you’re not taking the game seriously” And now falcon is lame because he has combos and because people like him? lmfao Sounds like we play a pretty lame game
@timwinterhalter52333 жыл бұрын
I think that's the rhetoric at hand here. "Melee is actually lame but thats okay"
@youtubeobserver3 жыл бұрын
@@timwinterhalter5233 I think he was toying with that idea too but I think the reality is that the community is lame and wants to discredit absolutely everyone and everything Like unlikely people winning tournaments is always “got lucky in bracket” and people hitting combos that punish bad DI or missed techs is always “where’s the techs?” as though they tech and DI everything optimally It’s just a shitty habit and it really leaves me with a “why bother?” kind of mood
@timwinterhalter52333 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeobserver Melee Stats generally makes content that challenges or subverts melee culture as it's existed which is fine as long as it doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater and start associating "hype" with melees worst excesses as a scene
@iamspikefire3 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is Yoshi is the most hype character in the game
@youtubeobserver3 жыл бұрын
@@iamspikefire that’s actually exactly what I’m saying, yes. But I actually have met this one dude that absolutely hates yoshi and does try to discredit yoshi players so I’m pretty sure we’re out of characters at this point
@ReddestRosa3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I always get excited when there’s a MeleeStats notification
@jaredbowers95033 жыл бұрын
So masterfully done. I love every upload 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@jarroddobben3 жыл бұрын
Props Edwin, this is some good stuff
@kuwabara_ssbu8389 Жыл бұрын
Only the real ones know about my boy Hanky Panky 2:36
@sagacious033 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat video! Thanks for uploading!
@Belive7heHype3 жыл бұрын
The look on wizzys face when he lost the first time was like nah this isn't okay lol
@kdot95273 жыл бұрын
"I love these mini docs about these crazy hidden narratives in melee" - Albyrt [he just said what I would say so...]
@irishjet26873 жыл бұрын
As always, fantastic mini-doc, but something caught me off guard: it wasn't until Rubicon 8 that an Illinois player won the Chicago regional. As someone from northern Indiana, why don't Chicago, and to a lesser extent Ohio, have better Melee scenes? Whenever there's a regional crew battle series at a large tournament, it's always Michigan players who carry our region. KJH, Duck, Ginger, etc. Chicago's the third largest city in the US, and Ohio has a surprisingly high population. So why aren't there more great or really good players from those states? It's always puzzled me.
@jazionpurnsky11853 жыл бұрын
Situation in Chicago makes it tough to just chill and play a 20 year old party game all day.
@christomanci2 жыл бұрын
@@jazionpurnsky1185 ?
@ricardoludwig47872 жыл бұрын
I live for these types of rivalries: The absolute titan that for some reason struggles with the seeming random nobodies
@mustachewalrus3 жыл бұрын
3:23 Edwin trying to fake yell so he doesn't wake up his wife.
@cooolbigguy3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. First one of yours I came across. I'm the total opposite though. My love of captain falcon's speed draws me too this old game.
@jackclay55653 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! thanks for this video
@SkeletonSSBM3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very inspiring the way Dart destroyed Wizzrobe. Not that I hate Wizzrobe, or Captain Falcon, it's that it's nice seeing the underdog win.
@aidantrerise34373 жыл бұрын
Great work! Please keep making videos! :)
@Dee_micl3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Edwin budding
@andrewwebb6243 жыл бұрын
Captain falcon in melee is actually my favorite character in any fighting game, I just love how balanced he is I actually think he's the only character in melee that is juuuust right like, his strengths are good and well defined, and his weaknesses are the same and it's what I love about fighting games. I hate fighting games where every character is the god damn same(like ultimate where everyone is a fucking floaty and everyone has a good recovery, and everyone has a 3 frame jump squat except ONE) so balance wise, my favorite character. I see falcon as a lot like a grappler but with a fast ground and air speed which is something you really don't see and I love it. My favorite characters have always been the struggles in neutral, really tanky, really hard to kill grapplers who destroy you on impact and I think falcon emphasizes that roll really well, basically if you ever see how fab the guilty gear player takes Potemkin and just absolutely makes it a slog to kill him while he touches you once and you die is what I love.
@DarwinDing3 жыл бұрын
incredible script writing, had no idea about this storyline LOL
@jakifio3 жыл бұрын
yo your channel is very very good such an inspiration to make content and play smash! thank you for explaining all of this!
@williamzen16543 жыл бұрын
I like how the onscreen dialogue jokes alters the tone of the video
@SmileGayming3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why a lot of players hate falcon these days is that a lot of newer players and people who don't know a lot about the game think that falcon is cool because his animations are cool, like he's playing a whole nother game than the rest of the cast. When the truth is falcon really is just playing the same melee as everyone else.
@SmileGayming3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean it's not okay for newer players to like falcon for his cool animations, it's just that as you play the game more, it's harder to focus on those animations more than the game that you're playing.
@bananastan7143 жыл бұрын
I think falcon's defense and recovery lack a bit compared to the other top tiers. So its fun watching falcon mains try to fan the flames in neutral, and capitalize on their punishes.
@Jupitec3 жыл бұрын
great work as always !
@NickyG_vz3 жыл бұрын
What a satisfying watch. What a hero Dart
@Tarti_offi3 жыл бұрын
this doc was absolut fire like the others !
@Alexouais3 жыл бұрын
Bobby’s face in the first minute hooked me
@Hitmonchu3 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, new Melee Stats post
@griffendesai20393 жыл бұрын
If captain falcon is lame, who isn’t lame?
@Shing_3 жыл бұрын
The players
@sebin52163 жыл бұрын
@@Shing_ It’s one thing to say Falcon is lame because you think tournament-viable characters, in general, are lame. But it’s another thing to say that Falcon is lame because of his moveset and play style. Falcon loses neutral very easily, has trash out-of-shield options, poor shield pressure options, is combo food, and is very easy to edgeguard. You’re damn right he gets touch-of-death privilege
@Shing_3 жыл бұрын
Huh, when did I claim any of the stuff you said lmao. I just said the players make the character hype.
@sebin52163 жыл бұрын
@@Shing_ Your response implied that he is lame, so I was just saying why he isn’t. But if you didn’t mean it that way my bad
@Shing_3 жыл бұрын
@@sebin5216 @Sebi N I'm more someone that thinks every character can be lame, but the players themself are making the character hype. Understandable if you assumed that I think Falcon is lame with the reasons you mentioned. If you want a quick tl;dr on my opinion on Falcon, he's both cool and lame depending on the MU and player. I find him a little more lame as I'm biased to have a bad MU against him, and seeing people overly hype him for some simple stuff has made me think him a little overrated in term of hype.
@aidantrerise34373 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! Please keep it up
@Tulsy_Grape3 жыл бұрын
As a Marth main both historic and current, this matchup is definitely very frustrating at times. Despite this, I highly enjoy the matchup. My favourite part of the matchup is that both characters can beat the fuck out of each other. It is directly because of this that I regard the matchup as 60-60. Both characters have an advantage, and matches can feel like a tennis game with all the back and forth of stocks. (Also yeah I know 60-60 doesn't make sense, it's half a joke)
@ImHitch3 жыл бұрын
This is a really well done video man! YOu deserve so many more subs
@E-Brightvoid3 жыл бұрын
Chicago Melee is a mystery to me and I live here
@deep_cuts20193 жыл бұрын
This mini doc was sick
@TylerjX55 ай бұрын
Great content. It's funny, when I was a Falcon player I always enjoyed this MU. Now i play Marth and Falco. I can understand why falco players would dislike Falcon, but it seems silly a Marth player would
@metroid11173 жыл бұрын
I love Dart, this was an amazing watch.
@metricleader82433 жыл бұрын
I think that Nintendo no releasing F-Zero games since 20 years was enough to poor Captain Falcon.
@ggpnkrs3 жыл бұрын
RIP Captain Falcon, killed both by Nintendo and competitive smash
@skipdiner99723 жыл бұрын
bro your content is so good
@jessie43513 жыл бұрын
fire stuff again as always
@x9x9x9x9x93 жыл бұрын
Ah I was trying to remember which channel was Edwins. This is it. So good.
@jarroddobben3 жыл бұрын
All these great little universes connected by a glitchy old game. And it's beautiful.
@flixtwif3 жыл бұрын
great video as always!
@jacob4colts3 жыл бұрын
Ive never heard anyone bad mouth wizzy or falcon before. What a hot take
@everydavid2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@uetzel3 жыл бұрын
Man, do I love spite!
@nxxdle_3 жыл бұрын
New Melee stats vid and AsumSaus today we’re eating
@bobbycool28153 жыл бұрын
Yep, another underrated video
@cheesekimbap29963 жыл бұрын
that hbox playing a guitar clip KEKW
@thegreatergoo78423 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Wizzy fan, but props to Dart he's a legend