What If Piccolo Turned Good Early? Part 2

[@floatingf8783]

Nappa: Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level? Vegeta: It's sixteen THOOOOOUSAND! Nappa: What, 16000? There's no way that can be right. That would mean he's almost as strong as you are.

[@jaydengilbert2033]

Stronger Goku, stronger nut and that means stronger Gohan.

[@ronjayrose9706]

Would that mean that the goten and trunks in this timeline would stronger

[@rawnorth7882]

This is sound logic Jaydawg I agree

[@kingjay8843]

It’s funny because that’s exactly what happens

[@BenFan-hx6ih]

raditz: please let me go I'm your brother (piccolo kills raditz) goku: I already have a brother.

[@endritguri5399]

What if Piccolo’s influence turned Gohan evil, instead of Gohan turning Piccolo good?

[@PlusUltraMan]

Could be interesting

[@bullshitproductions2539]

I wanna see it

[@randomperson7309]

@@PlusUltraMan but it would be hard since gohan was born pure of heart and the fact that he's a half saiyan makes him have more s cells which would be a stretch but most of these theories are a stretch when u really think about it.

[@Ahmed-tz7fz]

@@PlusUltraMan nappa and vegeta only brought 6 or 7 saibamen not an army so goku and piccolo shouldn't be forced to use any more of their power

[@matthewlaflamme9019]

Oh, that's an interesting one. I always wonderedb how gohan woul turn out if radditz successfully took and raised him, but I can't believe I never considered this one.

[@PlusUltraMan]

Extremely late upload on this one due to a few editing problems but better late than never! Hit the bell to get notifications in case things like this happen again and follow my twitter to stay up to date!

[@jakequali7608]

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[@jobjovanodoherty6599]

Please do part 3

[@jobjovanodoherty6599]

And please do part 5 of what if goku joined raditz

[@imgroot8919]

Y is Chichi not in the battle field? She trained in this timeline

[@PlusUltraMan]

I'm a bit late on this announcement but we're gonna have a 100 Subscriber Special Livestream!

[@PlusUltraMan]

Probably this Saturday

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[@12luigi45]

Awe Piccolo calls Goku his brother, that's really sweet

[@alancaldwell2764]

Tenshinhan’s injury was still fresh, so the senzu bean would have restored his arm. They restore stamina, nourish for 10 days, and heal any fresh injury. Remember that Yamcha had a hole in his chest that completely healed after being stabbed by No. 20

[@MajorLeagueGamingTrap]

Can you do what if Goku kept his tail

[@nail5872]

Ahah planet go boom boom

[@charizardred239]

Not major changes

[@IceeFanta]

@@charizardred239 besides the possibility of super saiyan 4 in buu saga making it a wash and just being a bit stronger till battle of god

[@jakobewilliams7986]

Aye man keep up the good work this is my fav series on youtube

[@PlusUltraMan]

That actually means a lot to me! I was actually scared no one saw this one. Thanks a lot man!

[@jadetheredqueen4749]

Dude I love your work nice job

[@LightroStorm]

Alright, I'm only really seeing one or two discrepancies in this What If and they're during the Raditz Saga and leading up to the Vegeta Saga. You said Goku and Piccolo were about 640 and 590 against Raditz. That would be 224 and 182 points higher. You also said that no one died in that fight. Well, there was a statement by Raditz where he said that even if their power was increased by a few hundred, which means 2 - 3 hundred more, they still wouldn't come close to matching him (without pulling his tail or the Special Beam Cannon) The second is that you said they'd get to King Kai's 2× faster, but since their power levels are only about 1.5× higher each, their speed is also that much higher, so it should take them about 75% of the time originally taken rather than 50%. Sorry for not commenting on the first part, I saw it late and figured you'd pay more attention to the more recent ones, plus it's easier than making two messages. I like this series quite a bit though, so don't take offense.

[@PlusUltraMan]

Goku and Piccolo are way better martial artists than Raditz which gives them a huge edge, they've also been training for 8 years together and so they have teamwork at the level of the androids or so. With these 2 factors Raditz doesn't Stand a chance Competition is what forces them there twice as fast not their speed, Piccolo doesn't really have to eat or sleep while Goku does and he by no means wants to lose to who is essentially his younger brother so less time is spent resting and they can also fly because they're stronger than the original timeline. So yeah 2x as fast.

[@LightroStorm]

@@PlusUltraMan But Goku when running Snake Way, minus the filler is already heavily driven by the Saiyans threatening Earth, plus fighting them and learning new techniques. Also Goku could already fly well at that point but chose not to because it wasted his energy, as shown by him using the Nimbus several times and taking a Senzu Bean right after in the case of the Vegeta Saga one, and with Piccolo not needing to rest, Goku would at some point have to rest, especially including flying which likely takes more energy for this current Goku. I see your point and it could likely be somewhere close to 2×, but I don't see full 2× there.

[@PlusUltraMan]

If flying takes more energy than the fact that their stronger would give them more energy to fly longer and faster. Having someone there makes people competitive and try to do things at a faster or better rate so yeah Goku needing rest, which he actually wouldn't reallyneed much of because he's already dead, is a point of contension so yeah they make it there twice as fast.

[@PlusUltraMan]

And if Goku was already motivated by the saiyans wouldn't having a rival with him motivate him even more and force him to go faster? While also being much faster in this timeline yes they make it there in 104 days

[@LightroStorm]

@@PlusUltraMan I wouldn't necessarily say "much" faster, as Raditz stated even if their power increased by a few hundred, which they do in this What If, they still would have been fodder to him, so adding a few hundred to their power wouldn't have made them that much faster. However with their speed and with the motivation, I'd agree with around 104 days.

[@brandonvicbossmorgan]

Real talk I've never understood why Goku never taught the KaioKen to anyone else over the years

[@evansappiah2547]

Gooood viddd !!!!

[@BrianAwesome]

Hopefully they will sew Tien's severed arm back on.

[@alexalsip9613]

I am positive Chelsea would not have killed himself, if Goku and Piccolo over there, also TN most likely wouldn't have lost his arm either, with Piccolo there, having as much power as you referenced, Piccolo's extremely shrewd, and likes to get straight to the point, so I believe Piccolo would have taken Nappa and Vegeta out before anybody else would have been injured, or killed

[@juliemunguia3153]

What If Kurama Became Friends With Naruto Early

[@ssjart156]

you got a new supporter well deserved 😉

[@PlusUltraMan]

Appreciate it man just checked out some of your art your stuff is dope!

[@nintennerdz6939]

More episodes please these are so good I really like it

[@PlusUltraMan]

It's about to get better

[@zerocks88]

I feel like they wouldn't have pushed the kaioken so far tbh, even with everything considered I think them training and perfecting the technique it would have been like goku 2x and picollo 4x, in the OG timeline goku got kaioken down pat but didn't do more than 2x and couldn't sustain it for any duration of time but I think in this one it would have been better to be conservative and just say he perfected 2x and then he can push harder if he needed great ending!

[@PlusUltraMan]

Piccolo is the one who pushes it so hard because his body is better suited for it. Goku pushed to X5 when Gohan is killed and he doesn't think too straight so he ends up pushing harder than he should have. I appreciate the feedback though

[@zerocks88]

sorry I should have specified, I meant in the training they did, I agree they would have used it exactly how you stated in the action scene! great video :D @@PlusUltraMan

[@HORIZON00236]

Thank u for putting out the point for goku training with king kai, because others what if channels thought since goku didnt die, meant no training for goku even though kami could've told them about it

[@evansappiah2547]

Im surprised goku didn't go super saiyan

[@PlusUltraMan]

He's not strong enough yet, emotional trigger was there just not the strength

[@ruby_dragon4034]

goku; *walks in* im going to die. chichi: oh ok have fun

[@PlusUltraMan]

Gohan: Wait what?

[@aniita948]

Lol

[@SteelNinja-mw3jt]

Hey man I love u can u start doing 2 or 3 video I really love video

[@PlusUltraMan]

Thanks so much! But sorry no at the moment that isn't a realistic option, I'm a student and right now 1 video eats a lot of time that I want to devote to my books. Only way I can manage it is to do an upload every 2 weeks! Thank you do much for the love and support though it really means a lot to me I hope you continue to like my content as it grows better in quality and quantity

[@TM-db2wz]

Nappa's power level was around 4000 at the time, meaning based of your estimate. Tien alone should've been enough to beat em. The other z fighters would just be overkill. (Late i know)

[@sonmakis911]

His full power was 7.500

[@SpeedGamingU504182FG34]

Can't wait for part 3

[@jreddtrex1618]

Hey man, I just found your channel recently and I keep watching and really liking your what-if's :). I figured I ought to comment and tell you what an awesome job you are doing. I have an interesting idea for a what if that I don't think others have tried yet and if you like it you can use it and expand on it however you wish :). Remember that filler scene in DBZ where the earthling Z fighters face off against the Ginyu Force on King Kai's planet? What if instead of the Ginyu force, King Kai arranges for the Z fighters to face off against some Metamorans (The race that invented the finger fusion). My thought process is that individually that race isn't that strong, but when they combine they become powerful warriors. The earthlings see this and keep it in the back of their mind. Fast forward to when Trunks tells everyone about the android threat and the earthling fighters work on trying to perfect the technique they saw while in other world training with King Kai. With this, individually the Sayains are certainly stronger but I feel like the humans would be less prideful and willing to use the technique to make a temporary stronger warrior that might be able to keep up with the Sayains for at least a short time. I thought it might be a fun way to make the B team somewhat relevant again :). I have other ideas too if you like the thought process behind this one and would like to take a crack at some others but I didn't want to overwhelm you with a super long comment :). Either way, keep up the great work!

[@PlusUltraMan]

That is indeed very interesting actually! I could definitely see myself picking this timeline up!

[@PlusUltraMan]

Actually I'm definitely going to do this so expect full credit!

[@jreddtrex1618]

@@PlusUltraMan That's awesome! I was thinking that if Piccolo does fuse with someone in the future, not only would his Kaio-Ken increase because of overall power but because he'd have an increase in body density as well like those fused Namekian warriors from universe 6 in Dragon Ball Super but maybe to a lighter degree. Something to consider as well, if they get Dende then there would really be no big reason to hesitate with fusion because this Piccolo is pure of heart. Plus, this may just be my head cannon but I would have to imagine that with Kami being a low level God, that might help Piccolo a bit with further mastery of techniques like Kaio-Ken and Spirt Bomb which are invented by God of sorts with North Kai being one as well. I wonder if someone as smart and as pure as this version of Piccolo would consider finding a way to give Goku back his tail for a power increase of sorts later down the line. Piccolo specializes in mediation and control in cannon, and I would imagine here with him having that deeper brotherly bond with Goku if anyone could help him control that power it would be him. Could you imagine if Goku pulled a Broly and made that Oozaru power part of his base and then stacked Kaio-ken/Super Sayain on top of that? That's terrifying! Which makes me think of another what if you might try which is what if Kami decided to let Goku keep his tail and attempt to help Goku control the Oozaru power instead of removing it? Sorry man, I'm just excited. Go at your own pace, no rush for any of this! I'm just glad to find a what if channel that takes interesting requests :D. Keep up the great work man :D.

[@PlusUltraMan]

@@jreddtrex1618 we'll have to talk about this!

[@mugiwara-no-lucy7802]

PLEASE update with part 3!!

[@PlusUltraMan]

Part 3 will be out this week! You should subscribe and hit the bell so you know when it's out

[@mugiwara-no-lucy7802]

@@PlusUltraMan Alright! And thanks for replying!! ^_^

[@PlusUltraMan]

@@mugiwara-no-lucy7802 My pleasure I love interacting with you guys about this stuff

[@BTG25]

I was expecting piccolo to be a giant using kaioken to fight oozaru vegeta.

[@owenanderson7829]

I got a cool what if what if Broly would raised by Master roshi

[@PlusUltraMan]

So What if Broly was sent to earth?

[@owenanderson7829]

@@PlusUltraMan yes and goku will land on earth too

[@PlusUltraMan]

Could be an interesting What if, for now I think I'll have to see the new movie and get the new cannon for Broly's origin.

[@owenanderson7829]

@@PlusUltraMan okay no Rush I mean it doesn't have to be Canon Broly it could be the old broly but new broly could be interesting

[@stephenquinn7931]

@@owenanderson7829 old broly would be a bad idea

[@KuraiSomnium]

12:56 what tune is that I know it from naruto but I can’t find it

[@liamhayes9544]

If I seen my 4 year old vaporized, I'd have went ikari/ssj no matter how low my power or how little s cells I had. Sure a nice 500X boost would have done the trick lol

[@ndiaz1982]

Lol @ chichi being terrified at the thought of Gohan being alone because he's dead

[@justsomerandomyoutubeguy6167]

3:10 a point in spirit and time

[@endritguri5399]

What if Vegeta and the rest of the saiyans could not or at least thought that the super saiyan form was only meant for Goku? How can this affect the story of dragon ball Z after the Frieza Saga?

[@PlusUltraMan]

Well I don't see it being a huge change. Trunks' timeline is a constant usually so he'd still show up and be a Super Saiyan which would debunk that idea

[@endritguri5399]

Plus- UltraMan But What do you think would happen if only Goku could do it?

[@PlusUltraMan]

If that didn't happen the androids would have kill everyone pretty quickly cause no Trunks means no heart medicine so now you don't have any Super Saiyan

[@PlusUltraMan]

The androids kill everyone, Cell absorbs them and destroys earth and with it Majin Buu, moves around space just destroying for fun, maybe meets beerus and gets destroyed. No TOP, No reseruction F, no battle of Gods and most likely no Broly movie.

[@rottingbubbles]

@@PlusUltraMan 😶😥

[@randomgamer7407]

Piccolo kaioken Goku spirit bomb Op Piccolo holds them off Them Goku charge up spirit bomb since piccolo has kaioken and puts in extra energy

[@-biggs-5696]

5:40 it WOULD be real training if he were also drinking plenty of juice.

[@nava2810]

This is good but why did I goku not go super Saiyan!

[@PlusUltraMan]

I adress this in a different comment but he's not strong enough yet, the emotional trigger there but not the power. And thanks!

[@phoenixencore4126]

What if a villain crossed over from DBZ. Like freeza, mjin buu, broly, the Androids or cell.

[@stephenquinn7931]

What do you mean "Crossed over?"

[@john98765333]

With NAppa and Tien being so cclose in power, I don't think Nappa would fare as well. Tien just has too good of techniques and skill for the brutish type warrior. Also, there is no way Tien would let Piccolo and Goku get away to go to King Kai's place. I think he wold bite the bullet too and die to go there. lol

[@pokehunterhd]

5:42 with plenty of juice.

[@szymonbollin6277]

What if Deku from my hero academia was a Saiyan ?

[@evansappiah2547]

Gohan should go to king kai ?

[@PlusUltraMan]

We'll see what he does

[@john98765333]

Also, A Senzu bean would restore a sever limb like that, as long as it was fresh.

[@jamesbah2561]

What’s the intro music

[@PlusUltraMan]

That's the 10Th ending of DBS "70 cm square window "by ROTTENGRATTIFY

[@shadowdemon502]

Wait Goku's Power Level Is 16K With The 25x Boost His Power Should Be 400K With Kaioken x2 Its 800K With Normal Kaioken It Should Be 600K Right?

[@alexpalsater7983]

"Because there is no filler" xD true though

[@rirtrirt4757]

What if raditz dodged special beam cannon and killed piccolo and goku

[@aniita948]

That's sark

[@Jadoo_Jod]

what if goku had killed all humans after he was sent to earth

[@stephenquinn7931]

Impossible, at that point coniel silver could kill him

[@jamaldavis8232]

Piccolo learned he was an alien in the last part 😁😁👍

[@PlusUltraMan]

Actually he didn't, I call them Alien warriors but no one ever identified Piccolo as an alien or said Namek or referred to Namek. That's the exact reason I specified in this part.

[@jamaldavis8232]

@@PlusUltraMan oh okay

[@SuperOhaddd]

What the ost name in 12:16???

[@christiananderson263]

I know this is an old series but I'm curious why did king Yamna allow piccolo to train with goku?

[@PlusUltraMan]

#1 Kami's 'son' #2 He's only ever worked to do good since he has no more connection to Daimaou at that point #3 Going with Goku increases the chances less people die to the saiyans which means less paperwork

[@micahdelia9717]

icon looks good

[@DragonLordJesus]

Man this What if was awesome, to bad Vegeta is dead.

[@jmooradian19]

Shouldn’t the lost of Gohan push Goku to become a SSJ

[@nbafan784]

Gohan dying was unecessary

[@PlusUltraMan]

Certainly an opinion one can have!

[@HunterWhoLaughs]

Cool

[@iimpoliite]

pls review oran high school host club

[@xavierh1744]

His mahogany desk💀💀

[@sephirothcrescent6091]

Cell is going to be alot stronger in this what if.

[@gersainc.]

Too many conveniences in this story!!

[@BenFan-hx6ih]

what if goku was a kryptonian?

[@PlusUltraMan]

Got the question the other day in a livestream I'm actually very willing to do it!

[@BenFan-hx6ih]

@@PlusUltraMan I think it will inspire you kzbin.info/aero/PLqHoWnizbYlrDr5fBFYh_saOuFsI-FJFD

[@ferhanthefox4688]

He wins every battle ever

[@BenFan-hx6ih]

unless you are some kind of a New God with magic powers and kryptonite who trains a lot

[@billyboi8086]

Milk

[@dianadiaz3597]

What happened with the nimbus

[@Driger1792]

I think his kid dying would make goku go super saiyan. His best friend died and he was able to do it.

[@PlusUltraMan]

Sure when he was like 375x stronger than he was on Earth and had loads more S-cells than he did then as well, wouldn't make any real sense here

[@Driger1792]

@@PlusUltraMan your series is pretty okay. Keep it up. I love masacox's run.

[@PlusUltraMan]

@@Driger1792 I'm not sure he's done this story

[@Driger1792]

@@PlusUltraMan no, I meant his what if run. Not the story. I told my friends to watch your piccolo series. Very fun.

[@cito9991]

Mahogany Desk xD

[@timetraveler5547]

Nappas full power was revealed to be 4k. Tien would be more than enough to equal Nappa

[@mastrblastr8662]

But Nappa’s power level is 4000, and you said Tien’s power level is on par, so would Chiaotzu blow up still?

[@stealthbombsmith7770]

Why didn't Gohan...DODGE?!

[@ahmedadan1557]

what if goku landed on earth at the same time as piccolo

[@alexhenriquez6884]

Ok I really think goku should have went super saiyan like goku SEES HIS SON DIE and he is just kewl with it with a little sad

[@t-h-c-cchungus5668]

Goku wouldve gone supersayin

[@EciruamreklaW]

Tien at 4000 with a Kikoho would've vaporized Nappa, especially before nappa fully powered up And especially of other attacks combined with said Kikoho. Kamehameha is 2.23x multiplier and the Kikoho is waaaayyy stronger. But we all know that Narrative is King Great series as always Watching through against cause I need a Plus Ultra Fix

[@EciruamreklaW]

Also this was 3 years go xD

[@brandonmyers5448]

First

[@leevelllesure-jones5629]

What if piccolo fuse with guru

[@Ok-gp3ef]

Can you make Goku smarter

[@구독자500명되면이같은]

Gohan training by himself? Will never happen. His personality only changed from scholar to that of warrior only because piccolo treated him harshly and forced him to survive in the wild for 6 months

[@PlusUltraMan]

It's a completely different timeline, no one's personality is a constant my guy and the reasoning was even given. If you disagree provide your own reasoning and actually dispute the claim.

[@justinpotts15]

Nappa has a power lvl of 4000 so he would be as strong as tien and rember he and vegeta don't know how to supress their power at this point

[@israelloredo9118]

Tell me a good story I like it

[@tmcslayer4559]

Why was Nappa stronger than Tien? Tien was at 4000 and so was Nappa not to mention Tien known martial arts

[@renatomata2441]

Mahagani

[@skaterboyralf8675]

How did piccolo need people to beat nappa piccolo has 14000 power level

[@PlusUltraMan]

You realize I stated Piccolo's main goals here were keeping He and Kami alive, protecting the earth, and protecting the Z-fighters right? Nappa had already harmed Tien to the point of losing a limb and Chaozu had died. And beyond that Nappa began to attack the weaker fighters once Piccolo engaged him. It wasn't because he was losing it was because he's trying to end the fight quickly. This is something we even see Goku do in canon against Nappa.

[@theninetailsslayer1939]

NOOOOOOOO! WHY GOHAN, HE WAS A BOY😭

[@구독자500명되면이같은]

It's nonsense goku has to die to get there. Plenty of living beings have seen king Kai, not just the dead

[@PlusUltraMan]

Name them. In canon Goku is the first character we ever see go to King Kai's and after him Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, and Piccolo go. All are dead. Literally every instance of King Kai training someone in canon is given when that person has died. They have to be allowed to go and Cross snake way with King Yenma's permission. You can't just find it or go without it. And there's nothing to suggest he just allows that privelage to anyone and especially not every living soul. After that that's it. Goku is only able go return and move freely once he is taught an ability which allows him instant travel from nearly any point according to him and the only other person to reach King Kai's by their own power is Whis. That's two living beings, one of which a massively powerful deity who can also reverse time, travel anywhere, use Ultra Instinct, and bring the dead back to life without aid. Are you arguing that more than just Goku and Whis have been able to travel to King Kai's? That's incorrect. And if you're arguing that Goku and Piccolo either know Instant Transmission at this time or are as powerful as This that's impressively incorrect. Please read Dragon Ball your comments are extremely misinformed.

[@jz1528]

Gohan dead from Vegeta? Not likely at all I don’t think, and Vegeta dead from piccolo? And they still got the Kaiō ken? I got mad questions and points for this, thumbs down man, bad scenario

[@PlusUltraMan]

OK

[@구독자500명되면이같은]

Tien who is 4000 losing an arm to nappa who is 4000 what is this nonsense. And why the fuck would piccolo at 14500 base need kaioken to kill nappa?

[@PlusUltraMan]

You realize Full Power Nappa is way over base Nappa right? And Piccolo didn't NEED kaioken to beat Nappa he used it to finish him off aa soon as possible and prevent any further injury or death. It was even stated in the video that his goal was to protect the human fighters and earth as a whole. Your issue is not understanding the source Material well and not looking at the context.

[@billyboi8086]

Milk

[@MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT]

One of them has to die? That's asinine. Thumbs down.