How Is Mortal Kombat 1's META Shaping Up?

[@CommandThrower]

Cyrax is the meta. I feel very confident that if copter assist gets a cooldown/damage scaling/hitbox nerf, you'll then see characters like Baraka not be as popular, and new strategies will then be forced to develop. Cyrax's strength is meta defining at the moment.

[@rabbyd542]

20 minutes in training and you can perfect block Cyrax.

[@dvnte2621]

we already know how to counter cyrax

[@robloxvempor]

@@rabbyd542how does it work? Don’t you have to take into account the timing of their string and when Cyrax is called in? I haven’t been on the game as much but I feel like there has to be some type of mess up with the Cyrax player. If not then I feel like FBlocking the assist would be talked about more 🫤

[@darkaero]

Chip is meta. Raiden/Cyrax and Baraka/Cyrax not only have high damage combos, but do ridiculous chip

[@exorder2005]

@@robloxvempor They're capping, obvious Cyrax users.

[@tyry_sa]

Thanks for talking about defence. I'm surprised that this has been overlooked. It would be interesting to see more defensive kameos later down the line similar to SubZero.

[@ORIIHON]

I agree! I normally use sub zero kameo only because of the ice armor. Almost every I fight just walks back and stays and just throws projectiles to get an easy combo. There are sometimes where the chase down game is fun but I see it too often 😭. It gets annoying after a while

[@viniciuslessa3480]

I would add flawless block reversal! Sometimes it seem that you flawless block but it stays the same ....I know it negates chip but you just stay there blocking and thats it....pressure is still on

[@MacDibs]

​@@viniciuslessa3480it does stay the same depending on the move. It does negate the chip and knock back and sometimes the block stun.

[@wiiman218]

I honestly think nerfing Cyrax’s diagonal copter will shift people’s perspective on the top characters. Kenshi is definitely staying one of the best unless Sento changes. But Johnny cages pressure would be a lot less oppressive w/o as good of an assist as cyrax. My adjustment for cyrax diagnoal copter would be it costs, full kameo bar.

[@super.hero.landing]

Yeah, the move is just way too powerful to use more then once. That or at least scale back the chip damage.

[@thugkermit9999]

What people should realize is that the game is very much still in its infancy and therefore while some good options pop up players should be given time to find a strategy around the strong strats before they get nerfed instantly Just give the game some time to breathe

[@exorder2005]

Haha think again, Striker just as good for Johnny, gives him enough block stun to continue his pressure and is such a good assist you can intentionally leave gaps in your pressure so you get pocked and the nades hit the opponent, hit stun is so big you can actually combo them. Not mentioning he's another source for + frames his overhead being +6 and the low being +1 as well as a final hit 50 50 to steal rounds. In fact he's even better than Cyrax for Johnny. And big surprise, "ambush" assists are the best in the game, everyone's who's played Marvel or Dragonball would know, the bigger the blockstun, the better the assist. It's why Cyrax is so strong. What did they expect.

[@xxWicKedWayZxx]

Johnny would still be top 5 simply because of his staggers and buttons. He’s easily got the best buttons in the game. He would be still be too 5 even with Sektor or Lao

[@super.hero.landing]

@@thugkermit9999 definitely agree

[@garesgaming7381]

I think its one of these games where there is so mich possibilties to counter a character for another character. Like Havik can easily destroy Kenshi with Shujinko if use properly to get a guaranted 90% of you health bar with 2 bars and no FB. Like its very difficult to make the meta bc the game is still new

[@djcrazy941026]

I agree. Kameos help a ton to counter. I was getting zoned out by Liu Kang, changed to Subzero and he had to play footsies. When I'm loosing the neutral and opponent is jumping a lot, I switch to Stryker and his smoke bombs help me to get in. I still need to learn shujinko for kenshi but it's on my to do list. Plenty examples. I'm using 4 kameos at the moment

[@adachiandmarie6024]

😴😴

[@garesgaming7381]

@@adachiandmarie6024 You have something to say?

[@adachiandmarie6024]

@@garesgaming7381 😴😴😴😴

[@slowmojo9355]

This games sound like to much work😴😴

[@RunarVinter]

Kall me Krazy, but I think Shujinko will become a bigger deal once players start learning defense more

[@Kek393]

Shujinko is crazy matchup dependent but on characters like Liu Kang he's crazy if you match vs a Scorpion or Kenshi.

[@jaxfan]

I'm really enjoying the game so far. Most fun I've had with mk since mk9. I do have trouble doing some of my moves a lot which causes me to lose some matches and it's frustrating.

[@ForeverMG]

There's still input glitches that haven't been fixed. They fixed P1 advantage, but that's not the only issue..

[@Dhampire1976]

@@ForeverMG yeah,skill issue is an issue no FG will ever fix. Get good

[@silverpower6912]

turn off release check

[@Quiron1985]

yeah be sure to turn off release check

[@ForeverMG]

@@Dhampire1976 Another 13 year old talking about "get good". Listen nerd, I know you think that's an insult. But being good at MK means nothing in real life. I say that as someone who loves MK and makes content for fun. Don't let pressing buttons on a controller alter your ego 😂

[@Ocean5ix]

Out of a hundred and so matches I'm one of the 3 Kenshi players I've encountered. So far, as I predicted, as good as Kenshi is, people just won't bother learning him if they can just destroy people with Baraka or Raiden. It's honestly the fate of every gimmick/puppet character in any fighting game.

[@ZombieaidZ]

Well to be quite honest. I don't want more kenshi players. I've ran into more than 3 in less than 100 games. And oh boy are some of them intense

[@JaeEunA]

TBF I also think a lot of people are exploring other characters. We had two separate opportunities to really deep-dive into Kenshi bc of the limited selection, but everyone being open *and* the Kameo roster expanding means there’s so much to do.

[@Ocean5ix]

@@JaeEunA Might be.. I'm coming from the Zato experience in GG Strive. Everybody said he was busted the first week. A month later he was old news, everybody was playing Sol Badguy and Leo and destroying people both online and in tournaments. With MK1 it's Baraka and Raiden.

[@KhanBalkan]

Facts, ive only met one kenshi online.

[@CI254]

I'm seeing them slightly more often in Demigod. They're still rare but I'd say one every 10 matches as opposed to one every 100.

[@TheDylbot5000]

Another banger video. And I agree, pay attention to the pros... everyone wrote of Liu as basic until Ninjakilla's Liu + Scorpion popped up a day or two ago, he's making liu look absolutely busted for example

[@little_error295]

Liu and scorpion been a thing since the beta first dropped months ago though remember seeing a KZbin short of it

[@SuperJJParker]

​@@little_error295I'm pretty sure Scorpion was not in the beta.

[@egrassa1480]

Liu is basic, but he's definitely stronger than people anticipated

[@little_error295]

@@SuperJJParker really I could have sworn I’d seen it

[@SuperJJParker]

@@little_error295 You definitely did not.

[@Coziarts]

As a subzero main, my only real option to win is to learn defense! As he controls the pace of the match in a way it’s been great trying to adjust to the meta and slowly work my way to elder god

[@mokaza40]

Sub zero has always been a defensive playstyle. Why you learning that just now?

[@lorddeathfetus9528]

​@@mokaza40You didn't play MKX?

[@darkaero]

​@@lorddeathfetus9528you mean the game where 90% of subs would just Turtle behind ice clones all game? Barely anyone played Cryomancer outside of Online and even then it was like 50/50 between Cryo and Grandmaster players

[@Coziarts]

Nah I was always hella aggressive in MkX and mk11, plenty of mix ups, but the meta for MK1 is really forcing me to slow down. It’s definitely a weird way to play from I usually play sub against people

[@lorddeathfetus9528]

@@darkaero yeah but 80% of MKX in general was overhead low mix

[@michaelmichaelllpp]

It also makes sense that a defensive meta is harder to establish unless you know what kind of offense to be prepared for. Great video as always Ketchup!

[@RoyArkon]

Obviously the meta is less than a month old, there are still so many things to be discovered in MK1. And unlike other assist-based games, MK1 does give you more room for defense than pretty much all of them. You guys once again broke down the topic perfectly and described it to a T, once again excellent video.

[@strippinheat]

Pre-release: "Can't wait to play as my favorite character! These kameos look great for player expression!" Post-release: * picks the top tier because they only want to win * * expresses self the same as everyone else with Cyrax helicopter *

[@madvibezz6716]

Bro like every Assist game I’ve played u can make pressure safe and plus and it’s a normal thing just block, BUT, the chip damage and meter build along with it is actually insane

[@madvibezz6716]

So if they nerf cyrax they should just attack that specific area and give all other cameos the ability to have an assist that can be used any point like cyrax to keep both pressure and neutral control

[@aWildJersh]

Reptile the go to, but there are genuinely so many characters I'm looking forward to learn. I can't wait for the life of the game

[@RoyArkon]

Reptile is very good, he's a jack of all trades character who's mainly focused on mid-range Zoning and ground mobility. Ketchup just talked defensive playstyles, Reptile can go that route very easily, and even with defensive Kameos like Sektor or Sub-Zero.

[@pious83]

I like Reptile and Goro. They compliment each other well.

[@MrLachapell]

In how much time do you learn a character ?

[@RoyArkon]

@@MrLachapellIt's character-depended, some characters are easy to learn like Scorpion and some are not. Reptile is one of the easier ones to learn

[@mbeining11]

Man, this game is so strong. I'm loving this, and awesome to hear my boy havik is getting some kudos

[@pious83]

Sad that he only has his morning star in story cutscenes though.

[@mbeining11]

@@pious83 hahaha ya, forgot all about that. His arm is kind of a replacement? That arm has hella reach. Wonder if removing that was intentional

[@pious83]

@@mbeining11 I'm hoping that "Titan" Havik having it at the end of Story Mode, might indicate he _will_ have it again in the next game. (Which is rumoured to be Injustice Vs MK).

[@ZenseiSmoke]

The problem isn't cyrax its the balance of ambush vs summon assists. The meta is ambush if cyrax gets nerfed he can be substituted with kano knives/ball and while i am aware that sareena is a thing i feel like ppl out grew her quickly, especially because there are stronger assists So the kameo system as a whole needs a review some summon assists need to be ambush Also this game would benefit from a push block of some sorts to deal with pressure

[@MTR_Nara]

So far I’m loving Mileena, Kung Lao and Nitara. Kameo wise, Stryker and Kung Lao are pretty fun

[@ryanrowe1975]

Development and characters to appearing the same area of ability to walking in cameos

[@jaceofspades6721]

Big sad Scorpion's stand 2 isnt plus on block anymore. Its all he had in terms of frame traps and pressure. Now he's PURELY relient on wiff punishing, seeing as he also has ZERO mixups.

[@3eezy]

I didn't even like scorpion much in mk11, but I'd take that version over what is in mk1 😂

[@metsuscorpion8311]

He definitely needs a major buff ik this is a different scorpion and it's kuai Liang but the issue is by making him a purely whiff punish person no mix up and his teleport doesn't track makes him lose so much and on top of that he has to rely on grabs at times I hate how they constantly make Scorpion predictable but give subzero better options

[@soulwarrior5791]

Now you know how us Kitana mains feel like

[@spencerdavis1572]

Meta is spamming cyrax after punished frames . Over and over and over till u connect with spacing lmao for a 40 or 50 percent combo and down 1 and grabs lol. There ya go

[@khorne133]

It'll also be interesting to see people start mixing in up blocks and punishing the overheads.

[@PhillipOnTakos]

I feel that the up block is something people aren't using. I will say I forget about it too a lot, I mean I've never seen anything like it. Sure it's very risky but the reward for using it correctly can change the course of a match. But like you said defense is underexplored right now and I think stuff like that will just evolve into people's playstyle.

[@bloodCount8895]

The Up Block is utterly stupid. Just use HI Block mechanic like every other FG out there since the dawn of FG.

[@Ice-ls9jz]

@@bloodCount8895You even know what up blocking an overhead rewards you with? You can high block if you want but if you successfully up block you can counter more setups.

[@bloodCount8895]

@Ice-ls9jz why can't hi block just to that? Why does it have to be a special verison/kind of hi block that requires a different input or timing?

[@Ice-ls9jz]

@@bloodCount8895 you can do it with hi block if you flawless block it. Just do that 🤷‍♂️

[@PhillipOnTakos]

@@bloodCount8895 because then overheads and jump in would be worthless if they were all punishable from a high block. It's like asking why is flawless blocking in the game? Neither a required to play the game. Most casuals will never do it or it'll be a happy accident. It's something for the competitive focused players to use. Which is better than say the clash system which I think hurt the Injustice games at a fundamental level. Which is bad for both casual and competitive. I mean there were people who probably thought a meter system was too much. Now every fighting game has at least one. So this will either become something that becomes second nature to players or a one and done to make this game stand out after its lifespam is over.

[@9NASHY]

If the trash characters don't a damage scaling buff or the top tiers don't get nerfed I might be done tbh

[@Ant6O7]

Pretty much where I’m at with this game. The top tiers can play terribly all game and than can hit you with one combo and win. The kameo system is so broken it’s not even funny. Scorpion can do a 30% combo into a knockdown than send out cyrax and do his spear spin and chip you for 20%.

[@9NASHY]

@thewave4030 exactly, the gap between the tiers are too large, if not fixed then I dunno

[@aaron8977]

Rains design in this game is so damn good. I love that he’s more of a mage/wizard then a ninja

[@FAM0US-M0NSTERS-]

I think its safe to say that we didnt get a finished product. What we got was a beta where we paid to be the testers.

[@redjaguar6883]

I'm excited for the brutality experiments with Kameo setups. The possibilities are endless!!!

[@swaswag75042]

I think scorpion is the most combo friendly character he’s very accessible in ground and in air

[@keepitretrox]

Horrible mixup

[@philmchawkk]

He has like no mixups though, I’d say Sub Zero is combo friendly but his damage is bad

[@swaswag75042]

@@philmchawkk I wouldn’t put scorpion as the best competitively but to getting a grip with the air combos and kameos I think he’s a good set of training wheels I actually got dogged on by a scorpion earlier lol

[@Kek393]

@@philmchawkk for Sub Zero if you want decent damage Sonya is mandatory.

[@rsspinal]

Cyrax is a problem and sub could use a little help. Rest is to early to call.

[@kway26]

For me Sareena is the meta, because every time i defeat an opponent online they always change back to Sareen Kameo.

[@venombrand3157]

cause its for noobs and works with every character lmao

[@SayVarRee]

I don't understand why up block has push back. They sold it as a guaranteed punish. But you can hardly punish because of the push back. And it feels random because some moves don't push back.

[@viniciuslessa3480]

We need flawless block reversal! We need back dash reversal! We need throw as reversal.... currently we only have special moves (most of them unsafe)

[@leeben1504]

Aside from cameo metas, the meta is do a combo starter to a blocking opponent, low poke. Do it again untill you get though with either a overhead or a low. That's just how MK be, but so many matches turn into poking battles

[@sikevillain]

Been having a great time practicing Reiko, Johnny Cage & Havik.. i like to lab for a few hours then hop online for kasual and ranked matches.. met some great players too. Enjoyable fighting game for sure but could use some tweaks & QOL things that are missing.

[@LoneWolf89POW]

Another great video the ex music is a nice touch

[@joannagriffith763]

I’m now a grand master in KL having fun but only problem is just playing the same players /kameos over and over.. I stopped playing today just cuz I was tired of smoke, Johnny cage , baraka , cyrax, sareena .. I heard the higher levels in KL will have Ashrah and Kenshi so want to get to that point❤

[@DonYoGi8331]

People looove that Sareena kameo and annoying boomerang attack.

[@willdangerfield50468]

Tbh I’m not a huge nrs fan. Injustice 1 was the first fighting game I played barring ssbbrawl but I moved quickly to sf marvel dbfz. I love sf6 but GOD I LOVE THIS GAME. I’m an assist fighter junkie and I love this

[@Jomael954]

You just be really young

[@KnucklesWTD]

@@Jomael954not everyone simply plays fighting games

[@warycarpenter6960]

I get wha they meant when they say kameos can break the game and think it’s cool the variation they bring is awesome the only exception I believe where he “brakes the game “ or jus makes it unfun is cyrax having to sit through two stings and having to guess a 50/50 twice is like wtfff feels nice when you dodge a 50/50 combo starter sucks when you are forced to sit thru two strings getting chipped out and having to guess how or low

[@SuperDR2K]

Endless Baraka Cyrax. It’s obnoxious how fast the entire community latches on to the most broken set up of the moment.

[@magicmamba915]

Raiden+ cyrax is way more broken than baraka+ cyrax

[@MikeCoxmaul]

​@@magicmamba915FS. It's just that Baraka seems to be more widespread. Him and Johnny are the ones I see the most. Raiden is imo the best of the 3 but Baraka is everywhere right now. I swear he's spreading faster than Tarkat 😂

[@shogun0810]

Helicopter? I think you mean... HELICOPTER HELICOPTER!!!

[@ShaneCoo]

Idk man. I feel it's just kinda Sad how many playes I've fought just because of the baraka/cyrax O.P tactic. Like I wanna actually have a good fight and fun match rather than defend a broken aspect in the game taking an easy big chunk of chip damage everytime. Idk still fun and aggravating I guess.

[@ShaneCoo]

Also idk im more stressed playing against a Johnny cage than a baraka/cryax 😂

[@fernygamer6985]

*Rain will fall upon you like daggers from the sky* 💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧💧

[@FortuneTellher]

One defensive tool I have yet to see use of is meter burn down 2. Patches and nerfs cannot be talked about when the mechanics aren't being fully used. In this game, every change's effect would be magnified times 20, because of how it would interact with the other half of the roster. Players using what's strong will only accelerate the growth of their opponents. Remember the philosophy is player creativity. You must simply think of a better pair than chop chop and helicopter and win with it.

[@nightstalker5282]

I wonder when a patch, balance, nerf, or buff update will happen and how much it will impact. Then theres the DLC. Did the DLC include more cameos? Great analysis i didn't expect Cyrax to be meta.

[@ezekialmaverick5461]

Been playing Raiden w Jax, Reptile and Mileena with Scorpion, and dipped into the Baraka Cyrax combo. All incredibly fun but Baraka Cyrax combo on a GRAB is insane.

[@dariushorton6626]

What’s some good controllers for fighting games y’all? I want to get a new controller for MK1 with great accuracy for input

[@Quiron1985]

did 8 ranked matches and a good 70-80 casual matches and didnt see a single Baraka or Cyrax (yes, I did see 1 Cyrax) A breath of fresh air.

[@sstemplarPSN]

I think if a player belives they are really good, they play with what they like, not with what "everyone agrees is the best". The game is still young and i am hoping to see a balanced meta in the future. The current balance is shifted towards cage, baraka, kenshi and raiden but its not too bad. As a smoke, havik, geras, reiko player myself, i dont find the disadvantage to be that big. Skill is still a major factor. On the other side, chip damage is way to easy to do, way to dangerous to consistently try to perfect block it. I feel chip damage should have a sort of damage escalation by itself as to cap it.

[@arcfighterx2586]

I will always see Serena as the "training wheels" Kameo

[@kSwissh007]

the scrub spammy wheels u mean

[@NewSlangSlinger]

Of course Sonicfox subverted the narrative and won the first major MK1 tournament (East Coast Throwdown) with Rain.

[@princecharlesofficial]

We need a charactor speed increase and the run mechanics back!!!

[@christopherdelgado1645]

Anyone else wanting a full kameo roster walkthrough/breakdown by these analytical gents??

[@super.hero.landing]

I'd give it another 6 months. Can't wait to see how the game looks by then

[@damonte985]

I hope they don’t nerf characters are kameos it’s way to early for that and personally I don’t like fighting watered down version of good characters because they got nerf. I like to figure out how to beat characters that are good in fighting games that’s where the fun is at for me. So as far gameplay I hope they don’t nerf anything and just give the game sometime and see what players come up with.

[@pious83]

Hope Shujinko's meditation gets a bit of a speed buff though.

[@paintballJohn2]

As a sub zero main. It sucks. I have to open up the other player at least 3 times.. if I play a baraka or a raiden they hit me 2 times and it pretty much over

[@Milliethepumpkin]

Fellow sub main here. Don’t give up. When he eventually gets buffed we’ll be ready :3

[@paintballJohn2]

@@Milliethepumpkin I’m not lol it just sucks when you know your better but get caught once and half your life is gone and now the have the life lead

[@nissan_skyline]

I love watching Havik. The animation is so cool. Although a lot of the players I've seen use Havik aren't that great, which is unfortunate.

[@lealius588]

shouldnt we wait until we get the first wave of dlc characters though?

[@kinginthenorth1437]

No, waiting a year to discuss the game would make no sense. Things can be talked about more than once.

[@lealius588]

@@kinginthenorth1437 aye, that´s fair

[@bljacks5]

There's a lot of talk about cyrax assist in different ways it can get nerfed... Should just make other kameo assist ambush assist and a lot more kameos would be used. A lot of other characters have cool assist but they are summons assist and they're not as useful as the cyrax assist. For example Kano has an ambush projectile assist... But Sony has projectile assist is a summons assist and you have to be on the ground and your point character has to pose... Just make it an ambush assist. I don't think the answer is tuner cyrax it's just buff the other assist... Not by changing move properties but just make it an ambush vs. Being a summons assist

[@AqUaiGamer]

My biggest complaint of this game is that most of the people I play against is Raiden, Kenshi, Cage, and sub zero. It gets boring after a while

[@magicmamba915]

Lmao for 300 games in KL on 2 accounts, i see only 2 kenshi's , one of them was me.

[@callumatkinson4402]

Think I have played like 3 sub zero's ... rather fight characters I know, fought one Tanya and had no idea what she does

[@AqUaiGamer]

@@magicmamba915 for me in my like 100 maybe 20 of them were kenshi

[@boulder1124]

I dont mind fighting cage it's scorpion and raiden I have the most problems with

[@dispozablehero9829]

I hate being a meta slave in any game i play so i generally stick to off meta characters. Right now ive been grinding with Li mei. Might try to learn so Shao

[@pious83]

I'd recommend Tanya over Shao. Personally I thought he felt the worst in the game.

[@asrieldreemurr1918]

some how even as an assist cyrax just cant stop killing people in one combo

[@asdfdc1946]

4:30 HELIKOPTER HELIKOPTERRR 🚁🚁

[@slowmojo9355]

GhETTO BiRD, GhETTo, BiRD

[@peteroneill1859]

The game is so much fun iam really enjoying it

[@Dreggy990]

Kommunities defensive options: ask netherealm for nerfs

[@enigmatic7303]

Eh, nrs games aren't that hard to figure out. There's not much to explore defensively other than flawless block, armor, kameo reversal, and delay wakeup, and ppl already know about these. Sento oki covers like all of these lol. I even tried to scorpion spear out of the sandwich, and he just sent the ghost to me full-screen 😂 I like to keep trying and labbing tho, hopefully something comes up

[@magicmamba915]

​@@enigmatic7303it's kinda hard setup true block infinite with sento, Kenshi has a lot of gaps

[@violentdreams96]

Baraka + Cyrax Johnny Cage + Cyrax Raiden + Jax Smoke + Sareena Other than that, once in a while there might be a Scorpion, Ashrah, Sub-Zero, Milena, Havik, Sindel or rarely so, a Kenshi or Reiko. I am yet to see literally the rest of the cast in Kombat League.

[@thestanman1486]

People are gonna play the easiest/simplest characters online. That's just how it is.

[@Grayson37]

How was sareena as an offensive kameo not mentioned in this

[@theshnorbix6603]

there are better kameos, she’s just easiest to use at lower levels

[@cookingwithtool159]

Yey havik is doing good

[@SidneyMosley]

Are we ever gonna get the competitive history of Liu Kang?

[@cookingwithtool159]

That’s probably a big one lol

[@littlezeppy3266]

oh word ECT? guess its time to make a name for myself 😅

[@P0wer999]

As a nitara main, I think she is very under looked and might need some looks at.

[@RoyArkon]

Indeed, no character should be overlooked, especially not at this stage of the game.

[@fernygamer6985]

I haven't seen many people play with Megan Fox

[@slowmojo9355]

​@@fernygamer6985i would love to play with Megan Fox, but Just not in Mortal Kombat if you now what i mean😉

[@pious83]

Not a competitive player at all. But, playing through the arcade endings with everyone there are some that I just really didn't take to. Kitana and General Shao I just didn't enjoy at all. Rain and Ashrah being only a little better than them. Personally worked my way through Invasion Mode with Reptile and Goro. They made it _less_ of the boring slog that it is.

[@lordzendor6698]

Make breakers 2 bar! By the elder gods this needs to happen will make the back and forth so much better

[@swizzywaffles2478]

True. And maybe one kameo bar instead of a third meter bar

[@exorder2005]

Kenshi definitely has weaknesses once you poke him out of Sento, and he requires galaxy brain to play correctly. There's nothing easy about him, truly one of the most complex characters in NRS history, would be a shame to see him nerfed into the ground, I don't care if Sonicfox and a handful of other people are playing him at "100%", he's so hard to master, he deserves to be strong when played to his full potential.

[@Killakj101]

I agree with this kind of balance, big brain = big reward is a great way to make a character fair as we all know that the dumbed down characters will always get nerfed because of how easy they are to play

[@KnucklesWTD]

Every Kenshi I see has sento down pack at this point

[@sweetillusions5495]

There's a difference between 'strong' and grossly broken when played well. Being good at a character shouldn't mean an auto win by existing.

[@enigmatic7303]

​@@sweetillusions5495Happy Chaos

[@magicmamba915]

​@@sweetillusions5495lmao, Kenshi has a lot of weaknesses actually, and really hard execution to play him properly. If you lost to Kenshi who use sento 2 into f22 that's you problem, not kenshi's.

[@kingfrosti8282]

People need to use Shujinko more. No reason, I just like him

[@deathmetalinyourface]

If you're going to have assists that make punishable moves safe, then at least make those assists cost 2 bars of kameo meter.

[@jasongode6179]

Add strength to the rest of assists

[@andrewvirtue5048]

NRS hasn't even put out a major balancing/bug patch yet.

[@magicmamba915]

Game on release only for couple weeks, wtf is must be a balance patch. They fix p1 advantage and some bugs in the recent update

[@Daiquiri_Zaiquiri]

I feel like im one of the only people who isn't really liking the meta of the game. Online got boring for me really fast since it just felt so focused on combos. I had almost no games have any neutral or defense, and either i was executing a combo or they were. Maybe its just cause scorpion is my favorite and he seems pretty low tier or at least boring to play well this time around, or the PC port might make the game less fun somehow. I just ended up giving up and switching to SF6 which makes me sad cause i love mortal kombat

[@aigami7928]

Same here, my favorite character was sub zero & they ruined him.

[@slowmojo9355]

Yea all i see on stream in this fights,.... that all it takes is to get open up and with 2 big Combos and the round is over. Don't get me wrong i like Combos and everything but i feel like you should not die that easy and quick just because your opponent touch you a couple of times. Once your meter is gone for ComboBreaker than goodluck not getting combo to death.

[@jdilla5622]

Ngl its tough playing liu kang as main in mk1 1 overhead combo ender is weak

[@youngdresbaby]

There are characters that dont need kameos to be great and then there's the male ninjas that sucks unless they have kameo being heavily utilized. I play ninjas in every MK games and this gotta be the wrakest they've all been. Smoke is the only one that can do well without a kameo. Other characters can do everything the ninajs do but better so I've shifted away from the ninjas and now currently playing Liu, Raiden, Baraka, Li and Tanya. Soon, I'll pick up Kenshi, Geras, johnny, and Ashra.

[@callumatkinson4402]

Geras doesn't need a kameo... you can do one bar 40% combo without a kameo. Which is cool because you can use any kameo you want

[@youngdresbaby]

@callumatkinson4402 Don't get me wrong. Scorpion, Sub, Reptile, and Smoke can get that damage it's just not easy to open your opponent without a few us frames. Can't strike throw on masters with them. You literally have to walk back and whiff punish for that damage. The rest of the damage will come from quick knockdowns and grabs if you're lucky.

[@jackjax7921]

Its better than the 3-D era games.

[@nero_149]

cyrax it is the urien of mk, every place he is in recent years(netherrealm era, not midway but yeah xd),he broke the game in half because he is so overpowered lol

[@magicmamba915]

Umk 3, deadly alliance, Armageddon, cyrax was trash in this games, even in mkx he's weakest of 4 triborg variations

[@H2NQWANTSCORPIO]

i just want scorpion to stop taking more then half my health away after hitting me 3 times in the air

[@magicmamba915]

It's fine, he use all meter for that

[@gamerdudepunk]

I love playing Baraka Kombat 1 it’s so much fun so unique and special love the variety of Cyrax chip damage into high damage so fair and balanced

[@KeijiMaeda86]

SonicFox doesn't count for determining if a character is good or not. SonicFox is just good with the whole roster

[@sophiegrey9576]

However the meta is shaped right now I hope we can agree it's leagues more fun than MK11

[@soufdagod5742]

Cyrax is the meta. Im not the type of guy to call for nerfs but Damnn cyrax needs to be tuned. And it’s not even cyrax, it’s just the helicopter move cuz his other moves are not even used

[@othellorucker8107]

Meta is be a bot with no thought and pick baraka and cyrax. Lol I do combo thus im good. Game is fun but still a lot of glitches for some reason. My frost kameo slide doesnt come out at times when im playing with kenshi

[@TabiOwusu]

All this is true until you meet ninjakilla who probably 70% combo you in a tournament 😌

[@Shazeen82]

The meta is backdash, backdash, backdash, spear, in close quarters death spin helicopter helicopter....

[@calleocho2107]

Everybody says nerfing cyrax, but am I the only one who thinks we just need nerf on the damage scaling of chipping while blocking? It’s ridiculous that blocks don’t make any difference in this game

[@Chadsgameroom13]

Baraka Cyrax is the meta

[@Shortstobeseen]

I dont want them to nerf anyone i just want them to buff others 😂

[@reun1clus]

As a casual, Raiden has been one of the best and easiest to use this game… possibly the strongest iteration of the character… nice to stomp some friends with him

[@shoahkhan5670]

Overhead/low 50-50 guessing games into 50% damage Wiisy combos, punctuated by two dozen shin jabs and throws per match. Also known as: *I'LL PASS.* 🚮

[@fernygamer6985]

Bring back the legendary John Tobías to fix the story and end all the multiverse BS 🙏🏻

[@KnucklesWTD]

He abandoned the franchise at its lowest point

[@fernygamer6985]

Tobias created the MK vs DC comic book and he is currently working at Warner Bros 💯

[@slowmojo9355]

Yea Ed Boon is brain dead! ... Doesn't now the difference between a good fighting game and a bad one...

[@rue_pardox]

I miss Skarlet 😔

[@SquishyOfCinder]

I really hope they rerecord Nitara

[@knickknack675]

HAVIK AND GORO IS CRAZY

[@DeadEye364]

"Offense is incredibly powerful right now, so where does that leave defense ?" Crying and screaming in the corner.

[@Oowops]

The most toxic thing I seen yet was scorpion cyrax that’s the most toxic combo I played