Pneuma vs. Ousia: The "Annihilation" of Fontaine (Genshin Impact 3.8 Lore, Theory, and Speculation)

[@Roihclem871]

Freaky

[@sylvarogre5469]

Saving the 🤯🤯🤯 for the last minute. What if the Sinner was the wish granting crystal, and Traveler just assumed they meant the Celestial Nail? That does make sense, though.

[@roozeveltfox]

I just love the idea that they could be like, "wait, there's a DIFFERENT mysterious glowing rock down here?!" because it tickles me

[@youraverageviewer9546]

And if we add the Caribert quest to this theory, the Sinner is indeed shown to have been somewhere deep in the chasm (at least hundreds of years ago)

[@hermannfernandes9510]

That would make sense. No other nail has ever been referred as wish-granting. The Sinner, on the other hand...

[@plingploong]

If "The Sinner" turns up in Fontaine or its lore I'll be so psyched. There’s so much going on, so many threads to connect...I completely forgot about Yelan mentioning pneuma in her incantation to activate the compass. Now I feel like going back and watching those cutscenes again to see what else I missed.

[@roozeveltfox]

1) the Sinner's GOTTA reappear at some point, and 2) old content has SO many hidden gems. I am, no joke, in a loop of having to go back and revisit every past quest and event. forever. my own samara of lore. my eternal return. HELP

[@ny3l009]

that dain quest in fontaine is gonna be a buffet sgshdhdjdjdfg

[@justchica3243]

The khaverena of good and evil quest and the Fontaine glimpses that we’ve has had me thinking about opposing forces. Rene talks a lot about opposing forces right? One purifying and one corrupting. I think it’s interesting to make the parallel to the Traveler, who has innate purifying qualities, and the abyss twin, who through alignment with the abyss is connected with corruption. Separate but related to that are theories about how the twins are perhaps the progenitor god of genshin Phanes split into two people (Phanes was androgynous and had wings and has seemingly disappeared). The twins always remind us that they “will be reunited.” Im wondering if their reunification is more than just physical proximity. Either way, when two opposing forces come together, it creates an annihilation reaction like you said. You could power something really powerful with that.

[@MrFlip2247]

yeah they kind of just went “oh you purified dvalin’s tear” and never brought that up again..? nor was it explained. it seems vastly important under new context of the current story beats.

[@ikikcas]

It seems that Fontaine arc would explore more about energy : the annihilation reaction (opposing reaction abyssal and its purification) and the energy from oratrice (energy from people's belief). Meanwhile Honkai latest arc also explore about energy/other mechanism granted from people wish that at the end bring destruction to the people. In HSR they also explore similar theme for xianzhou where the people long for immortality that later on bring destruction to them in form of mara struck. I am wonder what is the Hoyoverse writting team cooking with this wish and destruction theme

[@jeremiahsmith916]

I do hope they further explore the concept of people’s beliefs literally powering a machine. Then maybe the traveler defeating Ei with “the power of people’s ambition” will finally make actual sense in-universe and stop being a pure plot device.

[@namaste19]

Theory: Jakob's transformation into an abyssling worked because Jakob was Ousia-oriented. Like + like = abyssling. When Rene and Jakob tried this procedure on Carter, it failed because Carter was Pnuema. Like + unlike = neutralization. Carter was "neutralized" into goo the same way the celestial nail neutralized forbidden knowledge in the Chasm.

[@MaximilianH]

I prefer to watch your great theories over some wine and a candlelight-dinner. 😂😜

[@steindoesnothing]

If celestial/abyssal (or pneuma/ousia) do annihilate each other, if celestial grants wishes and abyssal inspires fears, then it would only make sense if they are somewhat of the same origin... at least for me it would make sense lol

[@TinkRomero]

The Pneuma-Ousia Energy is already interesting in itself, but the fact that this changed the Vision Casings in Fontaine is even more impressive! And that it activates the respective Energy when an Element is used is also impressive. This however also strikes up the very important questions of How? And are there significant consequences for it? Ei tells us that visions need ambition and something else (which means that a person with ambition is not enough to receive a Vision). This “something else” could be the Element Decider, so two people can have the same ambition, but different Elements. (Or same/same, different/same, different/different). So if Pneuma Aligned characters are only certain elements, and Ousia Aligned Characters are the other elements, then the Pneuma-Ousia Energy influences the “something else”. If there is no Elemental correlation, then the Pneuma-Ousia Energy influences the Ambition. Idk too much about consequences, but we do know that with the Vision representing one’s Ambition, anything that influences the Vision, will influence the Ambition. (Ei taking away Visions is taking away Ambition. Pneuma-Ousia influencing the Vision, will be influencing the Ambition.) And considering how there is an Annihilation Reaction when the two Energies interact with each other … what would happen if a Pneuma Aligned Character attacks an Ousia Aligned Character? I will be leaving you to your own imagination to figure out the answer there.

[@rhuajjuu7726]

The sinner is probably gonna at least be explained in dain’s Fontaine quest if not appear again. I could imagine that its general thing is granting just a little bit of wishes or promising that so that it can lure people and things into the abyss for its own purposes

[@roozeveltfox]

Dain literally promised to explain things to us so he BETTER!!!

[@rhuajjuu7726]

@@roozeveltfox it would literally be the biggest scam if he pulled a zhongli and said “no, i can’t give you the details right now” or the traveler/hoyo just forgets for some reason

[@kiaradoesart9682]

Aaaaah omg your point about the sinner being the wish-granting crystal... galaxy brain I'm so happy to see another vid from you so soon!

[@basil9007]

Ya know the “Annihilation reactions” really make me think about how genshin really likes the opposites attract trope and the morally grey lmao

[@ill-fate3970]

I think Rene and Jacob might end up being a melusine( pardon my spelling), and i believe that the new system of pneuma-ousia that Alain invented is an improved version of the technology of the ruin guards, since both types of energy have a will of their own. So it's really ingenious to use the energy generated by this reaction, but it may or may not be very volatile. Can't wait Fontaine hype. Great video, keep it up.

[@roozeveltfox]

Thank yoooou! I'm also inclined to believe that Rene and Jakob aren't human, buuut it seems weird because in the investigation notes, they seem completely outwardly human, but Rene acknowledges that they clearly aren't (and furthermore can't((?)) explain their origin). Although what iiffffff they're more like Sigewinne from the Final Feast trailer who looks like a human-melusine combo... sheesh I can't even speculate on that. I'm also so hype though - less than a week to goooo!

[@MarthaBritoatriz]

Discovered your videos recently watching Branonline react to them. Very nice content, thank you!

[@jackson3475]

That literally just sounds like matter + antimatter reaction, both meet *annihilate* eachother and a lot of energy gets released, except, with extra anime bullshit added on top... annihilation seems to basically be the name of the reaction too.

[@MrFlip2247]

this might explain the explosion that happened at FRIKEE

[@eboshisdescendant8697]

Khvarena's versatility is said to be influenced by Amrita. Maybe Arkhe is limited to Fontaine because of the previous Hydro Archon's power?

[@roozeveltfox]

oh YAH!!!! Rene makes a comment about Amrita along the same lines. Maybe that's why. So maybe it originated in Fontaine, and Rene re-discovered it in the Sumeru desert after the original hydro Archon died there? But super good point!!!

[@dreamday988]

I just know one thing- we will feel Annihilation in the abyss with these new mechanics 🤣

[@jeremiahsmith916]

Can’t wait to see all those high and mighty abyss players being forced to use the hydro traveler’s water gun for pneuma application. 🤣

[@dreamday988]

@@jeremiahsmith916 i think we will be able to brute force it probably..i wont be pulling until 4.1 😭

[@jeremiahsmith916]

@@dreamday988 yeah possibly it will be similar to Shadowy Husk enemies - where you're _suppossed_ to not use shields, but can force through with shields anyways. I'm also planning on only getting like 2 characters from the whole Fontaine cast, Lyney not being one of them, so will look for ways to get by xD

[@minglifeng2862]

Yeah I especially noted the ‘Sinner’ crystal is in the Chasm of Liyue not Sumeru during Caribert quest

[@minglifeng2862]

Every Dainsleif quest we go to Liyue

[@ThefOf1000Faces]

I think it's like quantum and imaganary

[@lpfan4491]

The moment when I get recommended a Genshin lorevideo because of the names Pneuma and Ousia(Xenoblade fan).

[@WhiteKoneko]

The biggest question is...that a 5 star Fontaine dinner date you're taking our Dragon Edgeworth on a date with? lmao 😏🤭

[@roozeveltfox]

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ baguette

[@wannabe3399]

what if the chaotic space in the chasm was actually in the abyss and that was the "enemy" that wanted to consume them, it has been talked about the abyss having a kind of will before

[@nanas1515]

You need to decide WHICH guy is it to explain to you “preferably over some wine and a candle at dinner” 😂 I can’t, this made me laugh ❤❤❤❤

[@Fezaki]

Holy underrated channel? Really cool theory that I haven't seen before.

[@frenchie2580]

Awesome video, thank you!

[@777dreamresort]

holy shit i love your videos roozevelt

[@AriasFco]

By the way, the adventurer's guild is implicated in a scheme against the divine, orchestrated by Marionette. Cheers.

[@Saji_0]

pneuma= traveler ousia= the abyss but there's one that I don't understand... where's the sibling in here??? I guess the sibling is gonna be fake ousia then (because they think they're abyss prince/princess)? Then do the siblings story ends up with killing each other as that "Annihilation reaction" or what? or do we just purify her/him?

[@sapph1rekween]

god i am terrified and gor chills from that chasm revelation 😭😭😭

[@MarclenChin]

Just discovered your channel and am currently binging it all. You got so much right with all your tinfoil crackpot theories. I'm subscribing and I anxiously await all upcomin vids!

[@xXZynaXx]

pneuma + ousia = annihilation :: yin + yang = wuji?

[@phatbeatz1311]

I call it FRIKEE anyday in the week

[@n7talula777]

Ohhh let’s go!

[@niamhomahony7794]

also the name rene literally means reborn

[@minglifeng2862]

L’Institut de recherche d'ingénierie cinétique de Fontaine (IRICF)

[@liaartist3671]

Now that i see it, why would there even be a reason for a magician to be like the ones we know in our world? In a world (teyvat) where magic actually exist... i don't see the point of lyney and lynette being magicians. Is it exclusively for entertainment? Or does the fact that they are magicians have to do with a possible " magic and alchemy doesn't exist in Fontaine" thing?

[@krys9463]

I can't wait for Fontaine, especially since we'll get a free character to play around with so we can become more familiar with the annihilation reaction. One thing that I'm curious about is how the Traveler will react upon entering the nation, in the SP they seemed to be getting another headache. Are they just sensitive to abyssal energy or is the Sinner trying to get in their head? This is more of a crack theory but I've been wondering if the Sinner sometimes tries to brainwash the Traveler whenever they're emotionally vulnerable, that way they can have both twins rather then just one.

[@roozeveltfox]

I've also wondered about that scene with the Traveller getting a headache and it would be SO JUICY! Like Traveller can resist a ton of stuff, right? and Dain basically said the Sinner isn't restricted by time or space? That would be a suuuper interesting weak point

[@minglifeng2862]

Every single Dainsleif quest we go to Liyue. Does that have any lore relevance? Lmao

[@pqpqupid]

The video was amazing

[@TangledRivers]

Yelan’s mentioning of pneuma is NOT related to Fontaine’s Pneuma/Ousia (Arkhe) annihilation reactions. It’s in fact a creative choice made by the studio handling English translations, and does not appear in the original Chinese. It’s super important to cross-reference the original words used when trying to string together a theory like this. Here’s the actual translation of the line wherein she mentions ‘spirit curbed, pneuma surge’: “Apprehend gods and spirits, allow the continued flow of the world's essence.” The nature of opposing forces is a common theme in Genshin, and while they obviously were using something like this in the Chasm- it is not related to Fontaine at all.

[@kyasarin9644]

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