The Horrors Beyond the False Sky (Genshin Impact 5.1 Lore, Theory, and Speculation)

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roozevelt

roozevelt

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@arxii-21
@arxii-21 3 ай бұрын
Conclusion: every single genshin theory crafter is going insane after the 5.1 archon quest
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 3 ай бұрын
I was just saying that to a friend. Clearly the reason why it's taking so long for everyone to post is because their heads exploded
@Zarozian
@Zarozian 3 ай бұрын
Surely it is the work of the Outer Gods noticing them! = w= It's like being looked at by an Aeon in HSR only by on Outer God instead!
@Sacration
@Sacration 3 ай бұрын
true that
@Keiki-kun
@Keiki-kun 3 ай бұрын
Always have been
@TinkRomero
@TinkRomero 3 ай бұрын
Can you blame them? If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back. … I’m simply referring to the phrase, not the Abyss we fight in the game …
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 3 ай бұрын
I'm telling you, one of these days this False Sky will break for good and something very VERY bad will come from the other side, then we will have no choice but to awaken the Heavenly Principles.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 3 ай бұрын
the more I think about this the more I wanna see it happen!!
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
If that were to happen I hope Genshin won't use the same forces from Honkai Impact/Star Rail like the Old Gods, Honkai, Aeons (Stellaron, Swarm) etc. I hope it will be new and unique and to top it off it would be cool if the big bad outside Teyvat is going to be much worse and powerful than the ones aforementioned.
@Rakaszta
@Rakaszta 2 ай бұрын
hey, I remember people going crazy over the celestial nail in the Night Kingdom. Celestia have been pinning those wherever the outbreak of Abyss happened. The Suramar's desert, Dragonspine, the Chasm... I guess in future patches Celestia will decide the Night Kingdom is polluted a bit too much? Or at least there will be danger of them doing it. I know the trailer was showing something different that we got in 5.0 but COME ON, an entire celestial nail being there just for shit and giggles?
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 2 ай бұрын
​@@Rakasztathe fact that the Nail in the Night Kingdom has Purple coloration means that the Abyss Corruption is too strong for the Nails purifying capabilities.
@Rakaszta
@Rakaszta 2 ай бұрын
@@bisayafascist5725 well the one in Dragonspine was even shattered but still it wasn't beyond repair. It also still distorted climate on the entire mountain
@Venus-ur7dy
@Venus-ur7dy 3 ай бұрын
I hate the "it was all a dream" trope BUT I feel like "it was all a dream" is VERY different from "you exist in a dream" In one, you wake up. In the other, you are the dream. That's some crazy levels of existential dread.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 3 ай бұрын
a very good distinction, yes!
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately Hoyo isn't dumb enough to go to that direction. Why? Well because Genshin has one of the most Volatile community out there and that is Scaranation so just imagine what would happen if their Husbando is just a figment of imagination within a dream, so I don't think Da Wei wants to get stabbed for real if that were to happen.
@demonic_banshee
@demonic_banshee 3 ай бұрын
@@bisayafascist5725 I'm no expert at all-things-fandom, but considering what CN Scara-HATERS did IRL, I'd say those are the people Hoyo ought to fear the most...
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
@@demonic_banshee those "Scara Haters" are actually The die hard Scaramouch fans, as a matter of fact they HATE Wanderer because Hoyo made Scaramouch have a "Redemption" arc and they rather want him to be a bad guy.
@demonic_banshee
@demonic_banshee 3 ай бұрын
@@bisayafascist5725 I've heard those people hated for him to be playable and everything bc he's such a "bad person", talks rudely and so on. Whatever the case, those people are batshit crazy and deserve to be thrown into prison for their actions. I'm a Wanderer-fan and I don't want to be thrown into the same category as this scum.
@kreideblum
@kreideblum 3 ай бұрын
"what if the worst day of my life was just the idle thought of a really really bored god" -my oc when i put them through endless and mindless series of suffering for giggles, probably
@bluwu3698
@bluwu3698 3 ай бұрын
dust of azoth and dream solvents having the same role but for higher rarity materials feels like it could also be a connector in this line of thinking~
@Sacration
@Sacration 3 ай бұрын
OMG TRUE
@tigeress151
@tigeress151 3 ай бұрын
this suddenly reminded me of a fanfic I read years ago where the twist in the end was that all of the events of genshin are paimon's dream and the real teyvat is already destroyed, and she's reliving its destruction over and over again in her dream, constantly trying to find a way to save it. the traveler is a figment of her mind that she invented to not feel so lonely anymore, which is why she's constantly emphasizing how she's their most important travel companion, and through the traveler she is also trying to change events that she could not change herself. now I don't think this is the actual genshin ending but it's pretty interesting to think about in connection with your suzumiya haruhi theories lol. especially the connection between holy blades and the power of imagination, perhaps the traveler/descenders are so powerful because they are a figment of someone else's imagination and therefore are not subject to the rules of the world or "fate". like maybe they're literally someone's mary sue oc where the original person felt powerless to change the fate of teyvat, but through a dream they can imagine this all powerful isekai hero changing the fate of the world. maybe we're just the primordial one's mary sue oc lmao.
@T_Dev69
@T_Dev69 2 ай бұрын
holy cannoli, please tell me where i can find this fic! :0 If u remember, that is
@capriciaelcid4743
@capriciaelcid4743 2 ай бұрын
What was this fic? Give us the link or the title at least please ! 😭
@fleurdelacour5247
@fleurdelacour5247 2 ай бұрын
Please say the address of this fanfic
@HoneySpades
@HoneySpades Ай бұрын
Not to mention it looks like Paimon sleeps on the Genshin Logo
@slamburger6189
@slamburger6189 3 ай бұрын
so fun fact, fighting all the riftwolves on elynas's surface grants you the achievement "Angle Eraser", a reference to a man who rounded out all the corners of his house to hide from the Hounds of Tindalos, as they were rumored to "live within the corners of the universe, while humans lived in the curves of the universe"
@slamburger6189
@slamburger6189 3 ай бұрын
ashikai told me so :3 its innn one of her recent videos lemme find it
@Space-lxy
@Space-lxy 3 ай бұрын
You know what is also deep red colored and glitchy... Perrie the harbinger also it would be interesting if the teyvat we know is a dream from the heavenly principles and the real teyvat is just a desolate planet that resulted from the war with Nibelung just imagine we awake the heavenly principles at the end and just in a wink we are standing in an empty rock staring at the red space
@shakkoryu
@shakkoryu 3 ай бұрын
Dark Souls 3 Ringed City ahh ending
@imnotherenow200
@imnotherenow200 3 ай бұрын
@@shakkoryu ringed city ending did give us slave knight gael so i'd say it's worth it
@imnotherenow200
@imnotherenow200 3 ай бұрын
hold on doesn't the perinheri story mention how he goes into the corridor, seeing a crimson moon, then leaving? could this be someone trying to leave the firmament and coming back?
@cam9913
@cam9913 3 ай бұрын
​@@shakkoryu just say ass oh my fucking god
@motemo8413
@motemo8413 3 ай бұрын
Peruere's entire character is basically a foreshadowing of themes and things happening in Natlan kek "purgatory flames", some ghosts coming out as snapshots of time(similar to Clorinde quest), red glitching exactly like sky beyond the firmament, existing between life and death(two worlds) e.t.c i think all of this hints at grander connection between Ronova and Crimson Moon if anything
@netzilore
@netzilore 3 ай бұрын
Tbh from the very first moment I saw the true red sky I had a thought that the whole world where Teyvat is placed in got conquered by Abyss, and the firmament keeps Abyss from entering Teyvat. Also wow, I never thought about connecting Vera's Melancholy to the lore this way, props to you.
@koratora2468
@koratora2468 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of honkai... interestingly, ever since star rail was released, theres been a crafting material from Herta Space Starion called phlogiston, which looks identical to the phlogiston recently introduced in Genshin. Its just... interesting to me, that with the introduction of phlogiston in Genshin, that we are seemingly getting much closer to leaving Teyvat
@koratora2468
@koratora2468 3 ай бұрын
The honkai version even appears as small droplets, with the beginning of the description saying "particles that form the flame". Reminds me a lot of Natlans sacred flame
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 3 ай бұрын
I just checked the Star rail wiki Still couldn't believe that was a thing
@koratora2468
@koratora2468 3 ай бұрын
@shanedoesyoutube8001 they got us good right from the get go lmao
@HonkaiBane
@HonkaiBane 2 ай бұрын
@@koratora2468 I noticed it too. There are also many others thing related to teyvat in honkai 3. Sumeru is a domain, Fislch come from beyond the skies, and Abyss monsters are similar to monsters from the sea of quanta. Genshin is closer and closer to something new, only 1 region left, and I think the story will be continued in star rail.
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 2 ай бұрын
​@@HonkaiBaneI hope not, I want Genshin to develop its own identity like how Warhammer fantasy is completely different from Warhammer 40k despite being in the same Multiverse.
@cobaltblue42
@cobaltblue42 3 ай бұрын
"In the perpetual meantime of a sheltered eternity, most are content to live, and not to dream. But in the hidden corners where the gods' gaze does not fall, there are those who dream of dreaming. Some say a few are chosen and the rest are dregs, but I say we humans have our humanity. We will defy this world with a power from beyond." - Dainsleif - Travail I will always come back to this quote, because I do believe Dain is directly stating the plot of the game here. It's poignant, beautifully written, and seems more and more relevant with each patch and after every new connection theory crafters make, especially everything you've mentioned in this video roozevelt.
@FaultlineSurfer
@FaultlineSurfer 3 ай бұрын
I believe that, at some point soon, the False Sky will shatter completely and the 5.1 test of the Natlan "domain" will expand to the entire map. Possibly mid-Snezhnaya. I don't think Khaenri'ah will be when SHTF, I think it'll be a lot earlier. The Winter Night's Lazzo told us that "check mate is not where the game ends" Collecting and using the gnoses is Step 1, but I think the Tsaritsa won't be able to use it against Celestia since Celestia is probably dead (I've become more and more convinced of this ever since we found the Byakuyakoku Collection and *brought that info to the Akasha network* and Celestia didn't notice, plus the island is ruined, plus THE HYDRO THRONE GETTING NUKED WITH NO RESPONSE (dealing with the prophecy was one thing, destroying the Throne was something completely different and SHOULD have immediately caused a response). Sorry about the stream of conciousness lol
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it Celestia being in Catatonic state is actually plausible because of the existence of the Hexenzircle and Alice. Remember that Alice's job is to maintain the Firmament and protect Teyvat from outside threat so the only reason why she does it is because she was chosen and the ones who hired her is currently Out of Commission.
@worm2976
@worm2976 2 ай бұрын
Yanno it's starting to look less like Celestia is sleeping and more like there's no one up there alive anymore
@alias_undercover
@alias_undercover 3 ай бұрын
22:26 on that note. Kirara's quest in Simulanka just hinted that whether or not things are real or not, both are reality. For Simulanka, it didn't matter that the people knew it was real because it was real to them. For Teyvat, whether Teyvat is a dream or not isn't the most relevant part because it was real to Teyvat, it's their reality. The reveal that Teyvat is just dream, wouldn't change the experience because it is real and honestly I think it would expand it more because we can now connect a lot of things. The fact there are multiple Samsaras could be a hint that the dreamer is having the same dream over and over again. Teyvat could also be a storybook and the multiple samsaras and multiple endings. Descenders are just witnesses of the story, they're not part of it. Probably why they can't actually change the dream, but add things to it.
@kaldimustheviator94
@kaldimustheviator94 3 ай бұрын
Maybe you are cooking considering that khaenri'ah chapter is "the dream yet to be dreamed". In any case , the Traveler ascending to the seat of the keeper to keep the dream going is an interesting thought I had after watching your video. If we liken the fact that descenders are outer-god that can reshape worlds through their will/thought this could totally happens. Now how to link that to the fact that Celestia put humanity on a pedestal, visions(ancient names) , ambition/memory (contending fire) and ect. Idk but considering that Natlan is basically mini Teyvat we may get answers soon enough.
@ratkamari1180
@ratkamari1180 2 ай бұрын
How is Natlan mini Teyvat?
@HiImYancy
@HiImYancy 3 ай бұрын
God, I fanboyed when I realized the Haruhi reference. Excellent work as always, Rooze.
@Sotik0
@Sotik0 3 ай бұрын
22:25 in this event, nahida asks the traveler “what if this all is just a dream” at the end of the event.. I found it interesting and didn’t see anyone else mentioning it so decided to say it here since it was brought up
@crags
@crags 3 ай бұрын
I personally think Teyvat is both a dream and real, there are a lot of signs pointing to this and I'm not bothered to list them all but a lot of it goes back to the samsara and Irminsul and how they are all about dreams but have links to code and computer simulation terminology, stuff about the world of Teyvat resetting, I could bring visions and the concept of ambition/wishes into this but that would take a while etc. I think that just like with Nilou, the samsara won't end, the dreamer will not wake up, until they get their "wish" that they dreamed for. Kind of reminds me of the endless 8 in Haruhi now that I think about it.
@crags
@crags 3 ай бұрын
alot of things are really starting to make sense after 5.1 and I'm looking forward to seeing ya'll put those pieces together.
@cainiaowu
@cainiaowu 3 ай бұрын
tech otaku save the world
@magicalgirl4
@magicalgirl4 29 күн бұрын
Honkai Impact was set within a samsara where the world reset after more than a thousand years, could be a loop like genshins
@sfjuhispst8144
@sfjuhispst8144 3 ай бұрын
My money is on Teyvat being in a similar situation with Penacony in HSR, where the leakage of memoria + a stellaron created a blend of reality and dream within the star system.
@vanessachowjiaying4423
@vanessachowjiaying4423 3 ай бұрын
It can be also similar to Mars Quantum computer in HI3 part 2. Considering HI3, Genshin and Star Rail took place in the same universe/imaginary tree, just different locations and time, all 3 games have repeating narratives/terms.
@jnliewmichael4235
@jnliewmichael4235 3 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I did not expect to see a Haruhi mention in this video specifically, cause like, yeah, Vera's Melancholy is literally "Shoujo Vera no Yuutsu", "Shao nü wei la de you yu", both JP and CN titles are a direct Haruhi reference, but I've never seen anyone bring this up before until now. I'm still praying for Hirano Aya in Genshin.
@MAOU-Demonking
@MAOU-Demonking 3 ай бұрын
I would like to point out that Lovecraft NEVER stated that Azathoth dreamed reality, this was a thing added by later writers prob influenced by Gods of pagana, the original mythos and what has become after so many writers are very different, not even the term outer God was used
@BooTart
@BooTart 3 ай бұрын
Ashikai hype you up so much during her latest live stream! so excited to see some of it ♥️
@mettaursp309
@mettaursp309 3 ай бұрын
Ah so that must be why the algorithm took me here. I remember her talking about someone, and a bunch of us must have come over here so the algo slapped me and said "you there, you're in that demographic so you go too". Gotta say it was a fun video.
@kiaradoesart9682
@kiaradoesart9682 3 ай бұрын
OK ok ok but what if it's "forbidden knowledge" because it's the collective belief of everyone in Teyvat in their reality, that is holding the sky (and Teyvat) together. Enough people realize the sky is fake, and Teyvat crumbles away~
@AndrewsMobs
@AndrewsMobs 2 ай бұрын
OH SHIT
@icyr0bin-794
@icyr0bin-794 2 ай бұрын
I interpreted "forbidden knowledge" as knowledge that contradicts what is written into immersul. like the existence of rhukavata
@kadatheklund2904
@kadatheklund2904 3 ай бұрын
Speaks about "Dreams" coming to reality, speaks about "Solvent".... Forgot to mention Dream Solvent lmao Good video btw, its just that my brain was screaming that.
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury 3 ай бұрын
To address your last point, I think that if all of the people of Teyvat are real but the world they share is a dream, the things that make the "it was all a dream" trope bad don't apply. The experiences and relationships would still be real so long as they are remembered.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 3 ай бұрын
💯
@spieds9994
@spieds9994 3 ай бұрын
So what you mean to tell me is that... Teyvat is basically SAO? Cuz it does basically mean that it's a big VR game (Fantasy/Dream) with real-life consequences
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 3 ай бұрын
People of Teyvat could be memes. In Honkai Star Rail memes are memetic entities that don't have physical body and can only exist inside dreamscapes with Memokeepers as exception, they can freely traverse the Universe using blessing of Remembrance.
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
Man I hope they don't follow Aether Gazers path (with the whole setting being a simulation and the enemies are just Malicious Data) because that would be so ASS. I hope Genshin is basically like a Mortal Realm like in Age of Sigmar and outside is basically the Warp (Abyss).
@missvanillacchi
@missvanillacchi 3 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful video but i think it gave me some real life existential dread too. Genshin and every story humans created started with a thought or a dream. I can see why people might think our world is the same.
@GeneSysFNLT
@GeneSysFNLT 3 ай бұрын
On the subject of someone dreaming. The most recent limited time event, Chromatic Ode of Candies and Roses, had a line from Nahida saying: "I was just wondering... if this whole thing might be a dream..." Obviously, Paimon and Traveler write it off, but I can't help but side-eye that line given what's been implied about Teyvat since Sumeru (or maybe before?). Also, this is probably nothing, but have you noticed how the album art on Genshin's OST (with Siblings and Paimon) lately look more and more like Paimon is asleep and Wishing for the Traveler? Idk if I'm reading too much into the album art, but it makes my spidey senses tingle. I *SQUINT.*
@nyxsiren8403
@nyxsiren8403 3 ай бұрын
every archon quest we are getting close to possible reveal of Teyvat being a bubble universe swallowed by Sea of Quanta.
@monadolifesaver5613
@monadolifesaver5613 3 ай бұрын
as soon as I saw the dust of Azoth, I immediately knew where alchemy was going in genshin's world. I'm really hoping that the traveler ends up being something crazy like the secret manifestation of Azathoth's dormant consciousness and they're completely unaware.
@ionian21
@ionian21 3 ай бұрын
You talk about the blind dreamer, you show Fischl, and you don't go there??? I'm so glad you've dreamed big in this one, the dream lives on. Love your work.
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 3 ай бұрын
tbh would need a separate video because I go so ham with fischl
@Faishgly
@Faishgly Ай бұрын
Idk why but I’ve always had this feeling that the Primordial One is the aeon who went missing in HSR. I mean, think about it. An entire aeon can’t just go “missing”, which means something had happened to it. Maybe that aeon decided to start its own world, therefore finding one and conquering it (the world of the dragons). He started life in that world and separated it and himself from the rest of the universe, therefore being labeled as “missing”, though he never went missing, he just separated himself from the universe.
@wordsmith6154
@wordsmith6154 3 ай бұрын
If that thing in the sky is really Yog Sothoth, I fear what could happen if we get a "Dunwich Horror" situation. Now that you mention Lovecraft, I'm making so many more connections than before to the stories I've heard of and read.
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
Genshin's Wilbur Whateley 😅
@wordsmith6154
@wordsmith6154 3 ай бұрын
@bisayafascist5725 Exactly!
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
​@@wordsmith6154 picture this. Tsaritsa opens a door to Celestia using the Gnosis but instead of being greeted by the Sustainer it's a Lovecraftian entity and said entity shines a beam at the Tsaritsa impregnating her and instantly gives birth to Genshin's Orphan of Kos.
@talonharibon8577
@talonharibon8577 3 ай бұрын
Holy damn.. I never connected that Vera's melancholy is a reference from Haruhi. I feel old now. Also I bet you hoyo actually used Haruhi as a base, they're a weeb company afterall.
@nthinparticular3345
@nthinparticular3345 3 ай бұрын
The whole Sumeru samsara archon quest part felt very reminiscent of the Endless Summer episode from Haruhi already - I would really not be surprised
@athankoh1
@athankoh1 3 ай бұрын
One day, the whole dome will break and we'll see a cutscene of the whole Teyvat's reaction. Venti and Zhongli looking up with some shock but kind of expectant, Raiden readying Inazuma for a war that is to come, Nahida straight up worried because of the implications and her conversation with Il Dottore. Neauvillette looking up with worry but a steady gaze, Mavuika who is just, "oh another thing to fight."
@SilvoKnight
@SilvoKnight 3 ай бұрын
15:50 venti quest and imaginary friends.
@towayyyyyy3
@towayyyyyy3 2 ай бұрын
OMG I FORGOT ABOUT THAT
@FireyFox273
@FireyFox273 3 ай бұрын
4:31 a silver forest makes me think of the Moonlight Forest described in The Pale Princess book.
@malkavian4120
@malkavian4120 3 ай бұрын
I am always ready for some Lovecraftian horrors, oh yes
@bluemochi2474
@bluemochi2474 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait when ''teyvat chapter'' is finished and cosmic horror become common enemies in next chapter
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 3 ай бұрын
Genshin is going to enter its Bloodborne phase.
@fireblade295
@fireblade295 3 ай бұрын
If it does end in the next four years...got one nation and that entire Dain subplot.
@miragames9475
@miragames9475 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if at the end of genshin, we get connected to the star rail system.
@GH-pf6mw
@GH-pf6mw 3 ай бұрын
simulanka shows us that "fictional beings" can "escape" to "the real world". i believe that's what the whitches did, but also maybe the sinners are trying to do that? i haven't consolidated my thoughts on this, but i feel someone should touch that detail simulanka gave us.
@lulufortytwo3884
@lulufortytwo3884 3 ай бұрын
11:49 *squints* I know they mention Delphi in Enkanomiya because I've been living there after 5.0 and 5.1's info AQs. Even when I try to get away, things like this happen and bring me right back. Long comment ahead Enka book Vol 3: about The Serpent's Heart From the first time our ancestors discovered this place, it had already played host to a unique phenomenon in which space itself might overlap in a certain locale. Later, those who came before us would utilize this phenomenon by creating the Serpent's Heart. It would be used to guard secrets, imprison criminals, and worship the great imaginary serpent, Ouroboros. In the earliest times, this place was called Delphi, the land of snakes. AND from a bit of dialogue in the Serpent and Drake quest (shout out to your first appearance, Enjou, our pookie) Aru: The Serpent's Heart is home to an altar that is considered the heart of the Cosmic Serpent. Before the coming of Watatsumi Omikami, we called this place The Heart of Ouroboros. So I guess the VM snippet is trying to say "the place where you are" which is strange way if saying it. Kind of like how the sibling said that "home is where ever we are together." However, I'm guessing the purpose of weird phrasing in VM is to highlight this section of Enka's book and its importance. First Ouroborus and its cyclical nature which ties into the samsara cycles that we know exist, even if aren't completely sure the details. Also, something something Ancient Names. I looked up Cosmic Serpent and the only other thing I got was about DNA, which is kind of interesting. That area in Enka has a natural layering system, which kind of reminds me of all those whitenight and evernight puzzles. The area is the same, but what you can see or do is different depending on the light. There's some things that lead me to think that Teyvat is a multilayered world, or as my friend put it, like a digital image where you can draw on different layers. Like Varanara, whether you see the aranara depends on if you've played the music. Eleazar was contained to those born in Sumeru because layer 4 was infected with some forbidden knowledge. And that's how Enkanomiya "fell down." Maybe the heart of the cosmic serpent (human dna?? the genesis pearl?? something new??? ) is the base layer of Teyvat that points to why Teyvat exists. After all, Delphi is where the main human characters in VM are from before they go in their space adventures. I know this wasn't the point of the video. I guess 15:05 is me too 🦊🍷
@agentsig6100
@agentsig6100 3 ай бұрын
21:20 I don't think it's goofy that you made the connection. let's not forget the dialog between liben and the Traveller right before the natlan patch as it suggests their trying to make that connection as well
@agentsig6100
@agentsig6100 3 ай бұрын
KZbin search: liben talks about natlan
@eonsadrift
@eonsadrift 2 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to make the connection between vera's melancholy and the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya 😭 thank you
@bluwu3698
@bluwu3698 3 ай бұрын
THE THING MENTIONED THANK YOU I KNEW YOU HAD GOOD TASTE
@youthsonyeondan3233
@youthsonyeondan3233 2 ай бұрын
Ok so that lovecraftian being you mention, the first one related to abyss thing in the sky in Natlan (im not even gonna try to spell it lol), actually exists in the hoyoverse. Shes like super overpowered, to the point where its silly in a bad way and i dont remember too well but im pretty sure she has control over everything, she shows up in the first honkai game, the one before honkai impact the 3rd (forgot the name), just wanted to mention it since its not in the vid and a lot of ppl actually dont know this haha
@mauricioos2294
@mauricioos2294 3 ай бұрын
What if the dream of the Elder God is Teyvat itself, and when it wakes up, it will see that eveything it imagined became reality or fought to became reality beyond its dream? I wonder how it will react when it have to face its "creation".
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Ай бұрын
well, everyone in genshin IS just passing idle thoughts of us, players, who are higher dimensional beings to them.
@wasntdeleted
@wasntdeleted 3 ай бұрын
YAAAAYY ROOZEVELTS OOKY SPOOKY NEW LORE VIDEO YIPPEEE!!! \o/
@ShineEdgateAshton14
@ShineEdgateAshton14 2 ай бұрын
This sounds like something Otto Apocalypse wrote. There is no wall
@dragondevil69
@dragondevil69 3 ай бұрын
my guess would be Aether is the dreamer and paimon is keeping him in check
@alexanderericson8628
@alexanderericson8628 3 ай бұрын
ROOOOOZE with the HALLOWEEN THEME don't think I did not notice
@Skylight-nn9cl
@Skylight-nn9cl 3 ай бұрын
The destroyed planet may be the original home world of the Primordial One or the Twins, or both.
@jodyangel
@jodyangel 3 ай бұрын
I tend to have dreams at times that feel like reality. I even usually follow the similar rules to reality. But there have been times where I have tried to use my own thoughts to change the dream.
@barti560
@barti560 2 ай бұрын
Nathlan 5.1 was just Hoyo saying that dark fairytale party is over.. Ragnarok cometh.
@Eda_876
@Eda_876 3 ай бұрын
Minecraft brain... The sky: the end Teyvat: the overworld Khaenri'ah: the nether
@lizjanejam
@lizjanejam 2 ай бұрын
Roozevelt- your videos, especially lately, have been the perfect blend of humor and analysis. Be proud of your work!
@destiny2390
@destiny2390 Ай бұрын
❤u for mentioning and analysing vera's it has been living in my head since before Fontaine
@frogzilla1706
@frogzilla1706 3 ай бұрын
17:12 That is a common misconception. Azatoth does NOT dream reality. That rumor somehow made its way into the community from a completely different mythos.
@deltaparadise4402
@deltaparadise4402 3 ай бұрын
Now THIS is a theory I can get behind. Nice job once again Rooze!
@noyhyon
@noyhyon 3 ай бұрын
The face the traveler makes when they saw the firmament being shattered i think shows that they know a LOT more than they are letting on. Just an observation someone brought to me, wanted to share
@TheThunderOx
@TheThunderOx 3 ай бұрын
I really loved this video! The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya was the first slice of life anime I ever watched, and the Sumeru dream Archon Quest immediately made me think of S2 with the Endless Eight.
@Hie_Hyoumaki
@Hie_Hyoumaki 2 ай бұрын
We lovecraftian media enjoyers FEAST on this patch bc wtf that means there are 2 sides of the abyss: the Order and this Eldritch abyss
@imaginarygaming79
@imaginarygaming79 2 ай бұрын
Back in a certain chapter in Honkai Impact, we see Otto using a machine to peer into other Bubble Universes, and Teyvat was one of them. In an interview, one of the devs mentions too that Teyvat is a Bubble Universe when explaining some connections between the games. Basically I assume the false sky, and the red digital mess behind it, is most likely the Sea of Quanta, or parts of the Sea of Date that are slowly consuming the broken world, and the Abyss is most likely the corruption of the Sea on the Bubble World
@jet2078
@jet2078 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to your video on the fake sky!
@hinomi107
@hinomi107 2 ай бұрын
interesting fact: we discovered in a small mission in ochkanatlan through Och-kan's writings that the ancient dragons, even before the archon war, had weapons capable of destroying mountains with one shot etc, but the biggest discovery is how they had some weapon and technology that used fragments of the three moon sisters, and that this could not be allowed, as it was a very strong evolution of dragons that went against the "god" Xbalanque (och-kan was such a glazer).
@daten9075
@daten9075 2 ай бұрын
Baby Rooze was onto something when she made that video about veras melancholy way back when... amazing video!!
@Flannsyn
@Flannsyn 3 ай бұрын
Oh my god, I'm SO glad to finally hear a content creator talking about Edward Plunkett!!! His works were a huge inspiration for Lovecraft and everyone after that period. And often people don't even know, because the name Lovecraft has become mainstream, yet the true father of fantasy is forgotten way too often... I love his stories and was so excited when I heard the name Pegana in Star Rail. Can't wait to get there!
@roymantic1833
@roymantic1833 3 ай бұрын
Saw that you were in the midst of cooking on Ashikai's 5.1 discussion stream and I am here to say I am pleasantly pleased
@Orion_TheyThem
@Orion_TheyThem 3 ай бұрын
I REMEMBER BRINGING UP HARUHI SUZUMIYA ON YOUR VIDEO DISCUSSING VERAS MELANCHOLY. I LOVE Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. One of my top 10 animes. So I love that you acknowledge it here. There's definitely a LOT of similarities. Not a one for one but pretty damn close!!! Also, her name is more pronounced Hah-roo-hee. Not Haroo-hee. In case you weren't sure.
@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem
@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem 2 ай бұрын
9:21 DONT THINK WE DIDNT NOTICE THAT ANNOYING DOG (i love seeing Undertale sprites in the wild lmao)
@tine1396
@tine1396 2 ай бұрын
It would certainly give a new meaning to Kaeya calling the god who chose their fate as "inept"
@jafetsoto5804
@jafetsoto5804 3 ай бұрын
Simple wooooow!!! 1st time in tour channel and You got me...Really love tour story telling and how. Tu connect the dots... Wow... Thank You for this, unespected, lore drop...keep doing it you're just AWESOME
@Ottobon
@Ottobon 3 ай бұрын
10:00 ish i love the music but recently decided to turn it off so i wouldn't overplay it. Huge recommendation to try this there are lots of interesting environmental sounds all throughout the game, i really slept on it. From now on i only use music during quests or the odd moment out where it would be nice
@roozeveltfox
@roozeveltfox 3 ай бұрын
10000% this, I do the same thing often!!! they have some REALLY interesting/spooky/neat/atmospheric/etc sound design
@eunicezayas3216
@eunicezayas3216 27 күн бұрын
Ever since the whole Gosoythoth thing… I’ve realized that the animation for the golden slumber features a dark “Eye” looking down from the sky right at 9:33 😮 So the people of Gurabad probably broke through the firmament somehow or were otherwise invaded by the Abyss just like Natlan was… crazy stuff!
@cofyrights
@cofyrights 3 ай бұрын
The bit about the editor begging the author to come back and finish the book series sounds a lot like real life Douglas Adams with the Hitchhiker's Guide series
@fatjontredhaku388
@fatjontredhaku388 Ай бұрын
Heavenly Principles when she first appeared she opened that specific red-chaotic space and we can see it similar to it, also the Crimson Dynasty of Khaenriah also stated during that golden rule of era the sky was crimson Red with it's Crimson Moon of the 3 Moon Goddesses that Arlecchino showed the Traveler a Chaotic Red Space with a Giant Red Baleful Moon eye watching
@infectesoul
@infectesoul 3 ай бұрын
what if the entire teyvat is just a storybook for klee made by alice :))
@JohnCivor
@JohnCivor 3 ай бұрын
Genshin as Eldritch Horror?... Sign me up. 😎
@vampi314
@vampi314 3 ай бұрын
so... some thoughts that came to mind: 1. its curious to me that azazoth is known as the "primordial demiurge" in lovecraftian myths, cuz as we know, genshin has a lot of gnosticism in it, n it just happens that in gnosticism the demiurge is often attributed with the role of the "creator of the universe and lesser gods", a role in genshin which has been attributed to the primordial one n i cant help but wonder if somehow, the primordial one is connected to azazoth. 2. the whole deal with tyevat potentially being a dream of a higher entity reminds me of hi3's kevin's plan. the tl;dr of it was "bro wanted to evolve the human race to a stage where they were able to deal with honkai, but everyone that was not able to evolve ended up in a comatose state n in a "shared dream". in hi3, the main cast goes n defeat kevin n this plan doesnt succeed. but i wonder if tyevat is not a result of a somewhat similar plan, by either the primordial one, or even an older entity. 3. in light of this previous point n the dream theory, dainsleif words in the travail video, take a whole new meaning.
@twistedblood0000
@twistedblood0000 2 ай бұрын
Hadn't thought to Haruhi Suzumiya in years, but that part made me think of the fortune teller in Sumeru saying the traveler would live for 10,000+ years and Paimon saying something to the effect "... that sounds pretty accurate..."
@NexusVFD
@NexusVFD 3 ай бұрын
My life goal would switch from "just make it to tomorrow" to "time to kill an outer good cos yesterday was a load of bs"
@watchingshows6683
@watchingshows6683 3 ай бұрын
That dreamscape and story book theory is intriguing because y'all remember how memories and existence in Teyvat can be altered? That we already witnessed the erasure of some people from memories, or that fabricated memories can be interested to the mind of people?
@bliblibloo8293
@bliblibloo8293 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always! Half way through the video I was like “oooo I want to tell her about the gods of pegana” but then you mentioned it! (also extra excited bc I ordered the book a few days ago and it arrives tomorrow on Halloween 😂)
@the_knut
@the_knut 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Looking forward to this video so much!
@deadamoree
@deadamoree 2 ай бұрын
8:39 there’s a real life plant who can mimic other plants by actually visibly seeing them- idk the science behind it but it could be referencing that too lol
@hinomi107
@hinomi107 2 ай бұрын
small addendum: azathoth also has beings that stay close to him singing for all eternity, so that he doesn't wake up, if we follow the logic that it was someone from outside who created them, then we can connect with genshin and mention how someone close to the primordial may have created a way for him not to wake up or even something from outside to make it impossible for him to wake up, this could be the abyss next to "the second who came from beyond the heavens", since he apparently arrived from nowhere after the Primordial One created humanity and brought the abyss with it, which would become one of the biggest causes for the PO not waking up and remaining in hibernation.
@GoldenEyeLauren
@GoldenEyeLauren 2 ай бұрын
Another banger. Thanks for the vid!
@hania264
@hania264 3 ай бұрын
Just the title "my backyard is slightly bigger than the entire universe" does hint to a potential make-believe universe, Vera's melancholy is the ultimate cheat book for genshin lore.
@lulu-jpg
@lulu-jpg 2 ай бұрын
18:55 This is scary specially when you think about Ei's haiku in her demo.. "Waking world, you seem woven from the stuff of dreams. All shall fade away."
@sherrish_
@sherrish_ Ай бұрын
So, It's either Teyvat is stuck *deep* in the sea of quanta or like Penacony, It's a dreamscape.
@Shado6588
@Shado6588 3 ай бұрын
Finaly i was waiting for this video 🤯
@dan2800
@dan2800 3 ай бұрын
Considering HSR x hi3rd collab and now 5.1 all of them being in pretty much save time frame happening they might be cooking hard something with all of this Imagine mega crossover event happening in the future after this unfolds all the way
@EttoreKortez
@EttoreKortez Ай бұрын
Not sure but it feels like there's an eclipse coming to Teyvat.
@P-rar
@P-rar 3 ай бұрын
the moon sister bit making me pavlov to the scroll of streaming song puzzle
@iris-28
@iris-28 3 ай бұрын
Remember how back in 2.8 Amy’s Immernachtreich was literally a kingdom made of her daydreams with its own unique culture and history ? ( yeah sure it wasn’t completely original bc of the Flowers for Princess Fischl rp but stick with me ), well, on gaa it manifested as a mirage, and mirages aren’t real but they’re still visible, well if we’re rolling with the idea that teyvat is some sort of dream, the fact that the Immernachtreich was made of Amy’s daydreams and became this weird illusion that somewhere between being real or not, makes me wonder if the real Fischl is the one who dreamed/imagined teyvat into existence, not sure how this can work with the Fischl is Khaenri’ahn theory bc that kinda seems more plausible than my theory but there is something here I can feel it So glad you mentioned Vera’s melancholy tho !! One of my fav books in game bc of how mysterious it seems, both Vera’s Melancholy and the crumbs we have of Flowers for Princess Fischl give me similar vibes so I often think about them along the same lines together, sometimes I wonder if Mr Nine also wrote Vera’s Melancholy and put another version of Fischl in it the same way he did with The Shattered Halberd and Flowers for Princess Fischl, maybe it’s Vera, maybe it’s the Princess, or maybe he split Fischl’s character in two and both Vera and the Princess are half Fischl, I don’t know really but I think there’s a connection here
@_elynas
@_elynas 2 ай бұрын
i kinda feel comforted by the thought of my life just being some existential beings passing thought. Like thats my oomf😭
@watariri7015
@watariri7015 3 ай бұрын
in the cutscene of the most recent nahida birthday event the traveller even straight up asked what if this is all just a dream. i think hoyo are setting up some foreshadowing
@blaneonthemoon2507
@blaneonthemoon2507 Ай бұрын
13:51 PEAK MENTIONED
@friendlyfellowfromspace7287
@friendlyfellowfromspace7287 3 ай бұрын
Finaly first omg, i love your videos❤
@cowboydevil5993
@cowboydevil5993 3 ай бұрын
My 2 cent crack.. teyvats universe has fallen into the sea of quanta.. and the false sky is protecting teyvat from the sea…
@Claudia_Ackermann
@Claudia_Ackermann 2 ай бұрын
Could you imagine if the False Sky shut down The entire sky of Teyvat will be just red and black with debris
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