Pocahontas - "If I Never Knew You"

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greenmage128

greenmage128

Күн бұрын

The song NOT included in the theatrical release of the film, "If I Never Knew You," though put into the release of the 10th Anniversary Edition DVD.
I love this song, and I am SO glad they put it back in. Makes the whole scene much more effective. Also, this is my first KZbin upload, soo...Yay me! And if you notice the audio to be a little crackly, I do apologize.
[EDIT] To answer some of the questions in the comments, this song was originally intended for the film and was almost finished, when Disney ran the movie (with the song) to a few test audience, and the younger--read, the kid--audience pretty much started squirming during this song, probably wanting to get back to the action. However, the song performed well with the teen and adult audiences. (Taken from the SE DVD's commentary.)
Also, YES, that is Mel Gibson singing. He also does all of the rest of John Smith's singing in the movie. Surprising, I know. If you doubt, just listen to the speaking voice. Same vocal quality. Sure, Judy Kuhn sings the pants off him, but he's not bad.

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@Wolfmyth100
@Wolfmyth100 8 жыл бұрын
Guard 1: Be Quick... .......... Guard 2: Do you hear singing? Guard 1: Yes, yes I do Guard 2: Should we stop it? Guard 1: Give it a moment....
@AMReed8
@AMReed8 8 жыл бұрын
Lol...
@simplycamila7247
@simplycamila7247 8 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@rebekahfunches6876
@rebekahfunches6876 8 жыл бұрын
lmbo that probably actually happened too XP
@ladyembers5749
@ladyembers5749 8 жыл бұрын
Wolfmyth100
@MrGabeanator
@MrGabeanator 8 жыл бұрын
ikr
@grayk7455
@grayk7455 7 жыл бұрын
As a side note, if smith and pocahontas had kids, their jawlines would be incredible.
@feathernoteproductions3538
@feathernoteproductions3538 6 жыл бұрын
*WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE*
@constantineaztro9173
@constantineaztro9173 6 жыл бұрын
James Rodriguez would of been how their son would of look like he is known as the king of soccer from Colombia
@strbymilktea2195
@strbymilktea2195 5 жыл бұрын
Gray K 😂😂😂💀
@mikeyzmumu
@mikeyzmumu 5 жыл бұрын
PFFFFFFFT-
@TheMssmitha
@TheMssmitha 5 жыл бұрын
Oof
@ericsflin6629
@ericsflin6629 7 жыл бұрын
”I'd rather die tomorrow, than live a hundred years and see the sequel."
@latetotheparty7551
@latetotheparty7551 5 жыл бұрын
😂 That's good.
@adriftcheetah
@adriftcheetah 5 жыл бұрын
Simon Moberg You HAVE seen the sequel, yes? It’s terrible.
@KimsLantern
@KimsLantern 5 жыл бұрын
Eric SF Lin 林聖峰 I spit my drink out at this comment. 🤣🤣🤣
@mikeyzmumu
@mikeyzmumu 5 жыл бұрын
Same, man
@laianhajomar6072
@laianhajomar6072 5 жыл бұрын
Thanksssss
@nurselaykan3721
@nurselaykan3721 5 жыл бұрын
I love how when she leaves, he dips his head and kisses her palm. Like, this is clearly a man who expected to die in the morning and had made his peace with that.
@itsjustdina12
@itsjustdina12 5 жыл бұрын
Oh god damn it. That part always gets me, your interpretation made it even sadder/better.
@nurselaykan3721
@nurselaykan3721 5 жыл бұрын
Dina I aim to please.
@sarai5983
@sarai5983 4 жыл бұрын
CNNS I know right I love that part
@PaigeAshliegh
@PaigeAshliegh 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not crying, you’re crying😢
@lauraduarte3500
@lauraduarte3500 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaigeAshliegh l know girl, I know.
@megangenoshe5367
@megangenoshe5367 Жыл бұрын
I will never forgive Disney for cutting this scene. I’m so lucky I have the dvd version that still has this. Anyone watching this on Disney+ will never know the heartache and love this scene gives.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
Same! I have the anniversary edition, despite it’s unfortunately in the original format of the VHS, the colors are off. But the song thankfully was included, along with the original ending reprisal. Imo it was a huge mistake and disappoint the song got cut, given how large of a role it has in the movie, its played several important times, just for the actual song to never appear, and no I don’t count the pop version in the end credits.
@leanacaraballo2441
@leanacaraballo2441 Жыл бұрын
I agree, this was supposed to be my wedding song! Because I loved this seen so much ❤. 20 years later and It still makes me flutter
@propogandalf
@propogandalf Жыл бұрын
I watched this movie on TV as an adolescent and this scene was there
@helisendedelferiere228
@helisendedelferiere228 8 ай бұрын
Je viens de regarder le film sur Disney+ et j'ai remarqué que la scène n'y est pas ... pourtant j'ai le DVD et elle y est. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi l'avoir coupée, elle est incroyable.
@nicholasrobertson4200
@nicholasrobertson4200 7 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I'm here right now. I'm watching the movie on Disney+ and when this scene came on, and I realised they cut the song, I paused the movie, so I could still experience this song with it! ❤
@marianamoreira3645
@marianamoreira3645 9 жыл бұрын
The person who decided to cut this from the movie was the one who thought of the plot for Pochahontas II
@actingislife100
@actingislife100 9 жыл бұрын
I can assume the only reason why the sequel was like the sequel was because people got upset that this movie was so historically inn accurate. I don't have to look it up to know that is the reason why. Accurate or not, these two are my favorite.
@robinsietsema5537
@robinsietsema5537 9 жыл бұрын
+Mariana Moreira I just can't watch it, because I love John and Pocahontas together and I don't want her to end up with that other dude...
@Arthus850
@Arthus850 8 жыл бұрын
+Robin Sietsema Unfortunately, the sequel decided to be slightly more historically accurate. And in history, John Smith disappeared from Pocahontas's life only to be seen again much later on after she married John Rolfe.
@Misticasorellaraissa
@Misticasorellaraissa 8 жыл бұрын
+Arthus850 really sad
@robinsietsema5537
@robinsietsema5537 8 жыл бұрын
Arthus850 Really sad, that is why I am not going to watch it. My heart cannot take it (sorry for the overly dramatic reaction XD)
@isabellarose8805
@isabellarose8805 5 жыл бұрын
Whoever decided to cut this from the movie doesn’t understand that this song makes their relationship so much deeper and beautiful
@abjklmrsakagamiali1651
@abjklmrsakagamiali1651 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that during production they had kids watch this and they didn't like it so they took it out :((
@ryanp5790
@ryanp5790 4 жыл бұрын
@@abjklmrsakagamiali1651 wait they cut the song from the movie? So if i watched it on Disney+ it wouldnt be there? I only have the old casset :')
@somethingaboutsomeone7641
@somethingaboutsomeone7641 4 жыл бұрын
AND YET SHE STAYS WITH THE BRUNETTE BRITISH GUY AAAAAARGH. This world doesn't deserve u John Smith:((
@nessyness5447
@nessyness5447 4 жыл бұрын
@@somethingaboutsomeone7641 it was realistic, what was between pocahontas and jhon smith was very strong and passionate, very deep...but it was the magic of a first love. it would have never worked for real day to day life because they were too different. jhon smith is an adventurer who can't stay in one place too long or settle and pocahontas is a leader, someone who needs to stay with her people to take care of them. jhon rolf was more like her in that sense, he did wanted to stay and build a stable life with her and have a family. jhon smith will always be pocahontas first and strongest love...but sometimes love is not enough to build a life together.
@Shik0n
@Shik0n 4 жыл бұрын
@@abjklmrsakagamiali1651 EXACTLY IF I WAS THERE I BE SCREAMING SHIP
@kirboo9766
@kirboo9766 5 жыл бұрын
There is no sequel There is no sequel There is no sequel...
@gabrielzayas3903
@gabrielzayas3903 4 жыл бұрын
@Simon MobergWhy? Why pretending there's no sequel?
@gabrielzayas3903
@gabrielzayas3903 4 жыл бұрын
@@gracey.loux. um...no. Pocahontas married to John Rolfe. That's what's really happend.
@natspencer174
@natspencer174 4 жыл бұрын
Kirboo 97 There is no Pocahontas sequel in Ba Sing Se.
@kailajane4136
@kailajane4136 4 жыл бұрын
exactly
@user-ec9wi7ge8g
@user-ec9wi7ge8g 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Zayas it was more of an arranged marriage and John Rolfe raped her multiple times
@miaallen6161
@miaallen6161 3 жыл бұрын
this song makes me cry because, in possibly their most inaccurate film, they managed to finally capture for the first time, and i think the last time, true love. even as a child, i could understand in my own way, the intensity behind their feelings but now as an adult it holds so much more meaning for me.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
So agree! Part of the reason they’re my favorite couple is because they actually had more mature and intense scenes than any other Disney couple. I mean the waterfall encounter alone is the heart of the movie because of how powerful it was, like I seriously dig that it’s an instrumental scene until she ran, like there was much more intensity when neither were speaking. He’s even the first Disney prince who the first thing he asks her is her name, not singing a song about love or dancing with her. That part right there is just so magical. I also noticed they touched each other a lot more than other couples, specifically hugging. I also love how their relationship felt real and genuine as they’re one of the first couples to actually get to know each other first before starting a relationship, and of course they have a disagreement (which was going to happen) and they work through it. Also did you know they’re the only Disney couple aside Rapunzel and Flynn that actually caressed each other when kissing (all other couples just hugged) and that made their kisses more mature and realistic? Also as much as I’m torn about the sad ending, I also feel it fit the maturity of their love, that they had to make a choice NO ONE ever wants to make. When Beast died, Belle begged for him to come back, Flynn died Rapunzel sadly sang her healing incantation for one seemingly hopeless miracle. But despite Smith didn’t actually die, he wasn’t promised he’d survive even if he made it back to London, which added to the impact of saying goodbye because it truly was very possibly their last time together. And you consider If I Never Knew You it just adds to the danger of the probability of him actually surviving or even say their ship got destroyed in a storm like in Frozen. Just so many factors that add to her heartbreaking choice to stay with her people instead
@nathancruz9172
@nathancruz9172 Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@madisonmason9179
@madisonmason9179 Жыл бұрын
​​@@kristinahuchison2511 one my favorite underrated moments it's when her father let's John go and they hug. The way he hugged like he never wanted to let her 🥺
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@madisonmason9179 my favorite underrated moment is probably when they’re teaching each other how to say hello in their languages, or even the part when John is freaking out from a talking tree, but then teases Grandmother Willow and Pocahontas is so relieved he’s just rolling with it. Like the part she’s leaning on his shoulder is so adorable because she’s that much in love with him, but knows it’s not gonna be easy trying to tell her dad he’s the one she wants to marry instead of Kocuom. But yeah, the part they hug when he’s freed is so romantic, especially because it wasn’t a kiss. Did you know his position actually changed so he could be touching HER instead of her outfit? Like she was so scared her dad wasn’t going to listen, but stood her ground and in the end he could see how much he was hurting his own daughter. But ultimately John wasn’t like the others, and he almost made a huge mistake in killing her friend. But my overall favorite moment aside the waterfall scene is the sunflower one, which is actually my iPad wallpaper, and the part when Pocahontas is hugging him before If I Never Knew You, because she’s so ashamed she isn’t able to look into his eyes without crying, feeling so guilty about his death sentence.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
I disagree this was the last time/only couple that beautifully displayed true love. While it’s definitely one of my favorites, I’d add Hercules and Meg given he gave up basically heaven and being a god for her, Tiana and Naveen as they learn from each other and a little bit about themselves and are willing to sacrifice their dreams for each other, but huge shout out to Rapunzel and Flynn Rider as my other favorite Disney couple. Flynn DIES to save Rapunzel from someone he never actually met but could easily tell how abusive she was, and couldn’t bear to let Rapunzel remain Gothel’s eternal slave, so he cuts her hair knowing he’d die immediately. But yeah, I feel thats partly why Pocahontas and John Smith aren’t as popular is because they have a more mature relationship, given several of their scenes together, especially the ending. But I think something a lot of people don’t realize is they BOTH learn valuable lessons from each other, her getting him to see the world through her eyes, and him helping her understand how deep his love is and death is a part of life, that he’d rather die a better person in love with her than live his life filled with excitement and adventure, but he’d never meet her. Like what did Eric do? Slay an octopus and just rolled Ariel wasn’t a human? Or Aladdin lying nearly the entire time to get Jasmine’s attention?
@8DWeirdoGurl8D
@8DWeirdoGurl8D 10 жыл бұрын
John smith is easily the most romantic disney "prince". I mean come on "I'd rather die tomorrow than live a hundred years without knowing you"? That could make anyone melt 😍😍😍
@lisabarr66
@lisabarr66 9 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@ChaiiPetals
@ChaiiPetals 9 жыл бұрын
It made ME tear up
@CayLily
@CayLily 9 жыл бұрын
Truth every time i watch this it gives me goosebumps i want a love like that :(
@Galastel
@Galastel 9 жыл бұрын
Well, what else can he say, when, as far as he knows, he is going to die tomorrow, and he needs to console his girlfriend? But it is a beautiful thing to say nonetheless.
@jackiejohnson8821
@jackiejohnson8821 9 жыл бұрын
he isn't even a prince
@Autumnandlily
@Autumnandlily 8 жыл бұрын
I love how the guard says "be quick" and they end up having a whole musical number during her time seeing him😂
@Isildun9
@Isildun9 8 жыл бұрын
It's Disney. When they do a Musical Number, the characters enter a completely different time zone, where hours can pass for them, but only seconds in the real world. Kinda like Narnia. That, or they don't show the guards outside just bawling their eyes out.
@Autumnandlily
@Autumnandlily 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Brammer true, true
@swimfreestyle18
@swimfreestyle18 8 жыл бұрын
i know lols xD
@swimfreestyle18
@swimfreestyle18 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Brammer lol
@paulapeniche9592
@paulapeniche9592 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Brammer +Autumnandlily YAS exactly ikr!!!!
@sunnalif5437
@sunnalif5437 8 жыл бұрын
I'd rather die to tomorrow then live a 100 years without knowing you IM CRYING GODAMNIT
@kennediestephens5025
@kennediestephens5025 6 жыл бұрын
ITS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THING WHAT HE SAYS
@cici.trinity
@cici.trinity 6 жыл бұрын
Ik ;-;
@laurenare2184
@laurenare2184 5 жыл бұрын
I KEEP REPLAYING AT THAT PART😖😂
@TashayiaBusby
@TashayiaBusby 5 жыл бұрын
Right ? !
@shyanmarie4405
@shyanmarie4405 5 жыл бұрын
Pocahontas taught John a lot of things he never would have known had he not found her. She taught him to have respect for people, and nature as everything has a spirit and a name. This showed John that Native Americans weren't the "savages" his boss was claiming them to be, but instead nomadic people who saw beauty in everything Mother Nature has to offer (the sunsweet berries of the Earth, rolling in the riches of foliage all around you).
@benmunn7593
@benmunn7593 2 жыл бұрын
"I'd rather die tomorrow than live a hundred year without knowing you" I know this is historically inaccurate but, you gotta admit, that was a beautiful line
@callanightshade8079
@callanightshade8079 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The true history of Pocahontas is dark, scary, and heartbreaking but I don't associate it with this movie. This is what I wish could have happened. Revisionist history.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@callanightshade8079 honestly, if they had different names fixed a few racist issues in the story, this could’ve easily been as huge as Disney anticipated. It really sucks the only thing that got in the way was unfortunately its the only Disney movie that was based on a real story that was anything but a fairytale unfortunately
@hollyhock9638
@hollyhock9638 Жыл бұрын
​@@kristinahuchison2511straight up facts
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@hollyhock9638 I have a rewrite in the works if you want to look at it :)
@albertoealabanzajr9294
@albertoealabanzajr9294 Жыл бұрын
It was a beautiful line.
@xxwolfrocksxx1829
@xxwolfrocksxx1829 6 жыл бұрын
Hear the sound of him kissing her hand? Listen closer, you can hear my heart sHATTERING.
@WishfulThinkingArt
@WishfulThinkingArt 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, I never realized he did that. That is so hot!!
@mrs.portgas6602
@mrs.portgas6602 4 жыл бұрын
i think i just had an eargasm .....
@1837mar
@1837mar 4 жыл бұрын
On what part? :(
@msnugget4283
@msnugget4283 4 жыл бұрын
@@1837mar around 3:06
@xxwolfrocksxx1829
@xxwolfrocksxx1829 4 жыл бұрын
@afootineachworld girl i already have
@ponypickles7389
@ponypickles7389 6 жыл бұрын
Pocahontas:" I cant leave you" John: "you never will. No matter what happens to me I'll always be with you. Forever" tHe fEelS But noo the sequel just had to ruin it!
@shawnlittle3091
@shawnlittle3091 5 жыл бұрын
Pony Pickles sequel what sequel. 😉
@diegodubber2140
@diegodubber2140 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Screw that sequel to goddamn hell! It sucks so bad that I disown it!
@aldozanoletti8166
@aldozanoletti8166 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck the motherfuckin sequel that disgrace piece of shit of a movie doesn't exist hell I am sure 99.9 of fans disregard that piece of shit worst disney movie ever as total waste I sure do cause it sucked and ruined the magic of the first one and I dont give a fuck about historical accuracy this movie was made by Disney for entertainment purposes period so Journey to a new world can suck a motherfuckin dick that movie doesn't exist
@anonymousperson560
@anonymousperson560 4 жыл бұрын
the sequel👏🏻does not👏🏻exist👏🏻
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
@@aldozanoletti8166 I agree! While Pocahontas unfortunately wasn’t as nearly successful as the Lion King or Beauty and the Beast, I feel the percentage that actually hated it was like less than 10% because the sequel received a hellload more of hate to the point Smith is officially paired with her, not Rolfe thank God
@miraclebrainstudio
@miraclebrainstudio 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that ignores the existance of the sequel
@chocolatethunder7256
@chocolatethunder7256 9 жыл бұрын
No I do too
@ladygagafan1ist
@ladygagafan1ist 9 жыл бұрын
I will never watch it.
@dani010203stor
@dani010203stor 9 жыл бұрын
UrBanPiNkPaNdA i have never ignored the existance of someone or something with so much energy than the sequel of this movie
@lonelylittledot
@lonelylittledot 9 жыл бұрын
UrBanPiNkPaNdA No, I do too! I even made up my own sequel, where John returns and they live happily ever after
@Moonlitwatersofaqua
@Moonlitwatersofaqua 9 жыл бұрын
UrBanPiNkPaNdA I do to. Untill I remember the real life Pocahontas did in fact marry John Ralphe. Damn Disney do not try to be historically accurate After what you did in the first.
@awadd6280
@awadd6280 9 жыл бұрын
"Pocahontas, look at me. I'd rather die tomorrow, than live a hundred years without knowing you." If a man could ever tell me this, I think I could die in peace.
@feniskoura3726
@feniskoura3726 6 жыл бұрын
i just realized that Damon from the vampire diaries said something like that to elena when she removed her memories of him!
@myuuruma4713
@myuuruma4713 6 жыл бұрын
i'm crying SHIIII-
@lightsidemaster
@lightsidemaster 6 жыл бұрын
I'm about to say something similar to this to someone important to me, weirdly enough I wanted to say it even before I knew about the existence of this scene. I only knew the song from the soundtrack
@zilans6955
@zilans6955 6 жыл бұрын
I swear I’m not crying.
@princessamour1372
@princessamour1372 6 жыл бұрын
zilan s DAMN THESE BOWL OF ONIONS!😭😭
@Treemotan
@Treemotan 8 жыл бұрын
OH GOD WHEN HE KISSES THE PALM OF HER HAND BEFORE SHE LEAVES
@ellephedre
@ellephedre 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed it now and i melted.
@Piratearicat23
@Piratearicat23 5 жыл бұрын
And then he kisses her hand AGAIN on the water reflection TT-TT
@mrs.portgas6602
@mrs.portgas6602 4 жыл бұрын
Im crYINg 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
@becca2046
@becca2046 4 жыл бұрын
Treemotan RIGHT 🥺😭
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t notice that until now! Man I wanted to kill Nakoma for interrupting them before they could kiss one last time
@Brainysaxophonist
@Brainysaxophonist 9 жыл бұрын
Let's just all pretend that Pochahontas II never existed at all shall we? I think we can all agree here that none of us really care about the historical accuracy of this story...
@BowserandLover1
@BowserandLover1 9 жыл бұрын
True that, so true.
@spartanmuse
@spartanmuse 9 жыл бұрын
Historical accuracy my balls, sorry, but you can't just have this wonderful couple and then disgrace them with that awful sequel. They clearly missed John's "I'd rather die tomorrow than live a hundred years without knowing you"
@madisonmrazek1953
@madisonmrazek1953 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry but this movie is to good
@emilyearmuffz
@emilyearmuffz 9 жыл бұрын
Pocahontas II fucked me up and I watched it when I was 20! I know happily ever afters don't really exist but to see it destroyed in one of my favorite childhood movies killed another bit of the child left in me. Wah.
@madisonmrazek1953
@madisonmrazek1953 9 жыл бұрын
Wait nvm your talking about II
@alexie832
@alexie832 3 жыл бұрын
I dont care if this is not historically accurate This movie is my childhood.
@cianwilson4049
@cianwilson4049 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY A RECENT COMMENTT
@ghosthost100
@ghosthost100 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, this applies to The King and I and Anatasia for me.
@dragon2218
@dragon2218 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Who gives a f*ck about the actual story? So bitter we never got Pocahontas Smith 😭😭
@origamipein18
@origamipein18 Жыл бұрын
And mine.
@disneyxperia7532
@disneyxperia7532 5 жыл бұрын
"Pocahontas, look at me. I'd rather die tomorrow, than live a hundred years without knowing you." ...how the hell they didn't end up together? Like, Pocahontas 2 is absolutely a joke
@treasure3950
@treasure3950 5 жыл бұрын
Forreal
@_mika-mikazuki_
@_mika-mikazuki_ 5 жыл бұрын
There was no sequel, whatddaya mean
@socialgoat5519
@socialgoat5519 5 жыл бұрын
history was a thing
@dull_needs_magic
@dull_needs_magic 5 жыл бұрын
Pocahontas 2 doesn't exist for me
@alwaysannelise
@alwaysannelise 5 жыл бұрын
Same way Klaus and Caroline didn’t end up together...but I have no clue
@PrincessButterflySadie
@PrincessButterflySadie 6 жыл бұрын
If they ever make a live-action film of Pocahontas, they should put that song along with this scene.
@constantineaztro9173
@constantineaztro9173 6 жыл бұрын
I'm native and I want to audition for Kokoum
@Jobe-13
@Jobe-13 5 жыл бұрын
Constantine Aztro DO IT.
@beccagregory3586
@beccagregory3586 5 жыл бұрын
@@constantineaztro9173 I wish you good luck
@augustusfreeman4032
@augustusfreeman4032 5 жыл бұрын
If Shang and Mishu got left out of the Mulan live action then John Smith definitely wouldn't be the love interest to be honest.
@Leinad0001
@Leinad0001 5 жыл бұрын
The song Savages in today's climate would be like stepping on a landmine XD
@jeydanguyen100
@jeydanguyen100 5 жыл бұрын
not sure if anyone else caught this, but when john smith first encountered pocahontas, the instrumental of this song was playing in the background.
@meganlawson9080
@meganlawson9080 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! They call this a "leitmotif." You can actually hear it in several places where they're together, including at the very end as they're saying their last goodbye. Then when he gets to the ship and we get that final moment, it morphs into "Colors of the Wind"- magical!
@raadmanesh9700
@raadmanesh9700 4 жыл бұрын
I did 😊
@mabelidove6813
@mabelidove6813 4 жыл бұрын
@@meganlawson9080 I like your explanation 😊
@chinny7700
@chinny7700 3 жыл бұрын
@@meganlawson9080 wow
@BridgetRavens
@BridgetRavens 3 жыл бұрын
@@meganlawson9080 yeeeees music theory! 🙌🏻
@Aight7
@Aight7 Жыл бұрын
Pocahontas is the most empathetic and passionate princess... The way she looks at him, embraces him, looks for his lips... This scene deserved to be included. So perfect and sweet...
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
I know right? Come on, admit it, Pocahontas and John Smith had a lot of sexual tension and passion for a Disney couple. Legit the way their positioned and acted around each other in several scenes proved they had a more mature relationship than most couples
@Aight7
@Aight7 Жыл бұрын
@@kristinahuchison2511 I somply love her. She's so beautiful inside out. Maybe the most underrated princess from the Disney Renaissance and for a sad reason of course 😞
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@Aight7 yes! I don’t get why some people call her boring or “too serious” given she literally complained Kocuom was too serious and stern, and that’s mainly why she refused him as a husband. I find her very similar to Ariel, wanting to explore and see what’s outside of her village. And she also struggles with her loyalty to her people and being in love with someone who doesn’t try to change her into someone else, like her dad and Kocuom did. If anything she’s able to help both sides see themselves as equals. Like what did Ariel do? Disobey her dad every way possible just for a guy she hardly knew and had a crush on? Sadly, the main reason why Pocahontas and her movie is severely underrated is because she’s still based on a real woman who’s life was basically a living hell when the English came to her land. I’m not kidding, I knew the real story as a kid before even watching the movie. I remember being super disappointed Pocahontas and John Smith definitely weren’t lovers, let alone even the same age, and she married a different John in reality. But I digress. If anything it really sucks how much hate John Smith gets as a character, and it’s very largely because he’s still based on a terrible man. Like if their names were different, 90% of Pocahontas’s problems (specifically racial issues) would be solved. And its really sad how it’s slowly decayed overtime, but a movie like Hercules has been growing in popularity and people claim “We all know the actual mythology is grievously inaccurate to the Disney movie” but Pocahontas gets all the heat and hate because “She was still a real person, like it or not” She was always my favorite princess, and I always thought she was a lot more beautiful than Ariel, Belle or Jasmine tbh, especially her gorgeous hair. And I find her story really relatable, about struggling to fit in with her people while being very close with someone she knew they didn’t like, she just couldn’t figure out how to show them he wasn’t like the others, and truly and deeply cared about her and her tribe, going so far as to almost die to protect their chief from his own men. But no, him being racist at the beginning is too large of a problem to ignore, despite he changes a lot earlier than Aladdin does, who took the entire damn movie to stop lying to Jasmine. And its really sad and rather alarming to see how many people would rather date a liar over someone who was a bit of a jerk at first, but instantly accepted he was wrong and immediately changes his beliefs and ways to the point he literally argued with his boss about the war. I have a rewrite of Pocahontas in the works if you want to check it out :)
@Aight7
@Aight7 Жыл бұрын
​ @kristinahuchison2511 What a mature, sensitive and empathetic reply! My guess is that, with the elements they got, Disney with Pocahontas really tried to show that in unity and perseverance future can chance, despite an ugly past made of horror and historical depressive moments. Of course if J. Smith was not J. Smith but a brand new name and characters the destiny of this beautiful (and versatile, in terms of age) masterpiece would have been different. But people don't go so deep into diving and in all of this, history and pain are in the middle. Native Americans are to this day, in my opinion a minority that is the most disrespected despite long time ago being the majority of the beautiful country that is America today. So let's say that is a delicate topic. This being said, if only the matter wasn't this intricate, it would have been wonderful if people saw the beauty in the message the company tried to portray: despite our differences, despite what sadly separates us, love can break the chains of evil, even the unthinkable ones. You're right, the characters needed to be together to show that, just like in the lion king 2, love can overcome hatred, racism, supremacy and injustice. Love triumphs in the storm. The colors of the wind they showed us, needed a grand finale. My favorite princess is Ariel but right after her, the maturity of Pocahontas always catches my attention, from the way she's characterised (like I specified in the main comment), to the morale of the movie. Just like you with our native American princess, , to me Ariel is the bridge between diversities and the exploration of the new world, a motif of personal growth and wisdom. Ariel represents, to me, the demonstration that following your "gut" feeling isn't always wrong (unless you sign a contract made up by a stranger with tentacles 😂) and that the old of the past, the made up lies of prejudices can be broken through curiosity and innocence of heart. Thank you for this comment. ❤
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@Aight7 well, I don’t hate Ariel or anything, as I know a lot of people really love her passionate, yet curious and quirky side, and not letting her dad deter her from what she wants. My only question is why so many people love her, but then proceed to call Pocahontas too serious or boring? Ariel imo literally wasn’t afraid to keep disobeying her dad and didn’t fear his temper until he destroyed her treasure trove, which pushed her to believing he hated her and would be much happier with someone who didn’t even know she existed, let alone her species. For crying out loud, even in the live action movie, they confirmed that Athena was killed by humans, so why would Ariel still be so curious about a species that killed her mother? I know she felt she just didn’t belong in the sea and felt such a powerful connection to the human world. But I feel in the sequel she doesn’t really try to learn more about them, simply becomes a queen and a mother. I honestly believe the main reason why she’s still so popular is because she’s a mermaid, as she’s more very largely marketed as a mermaid instead of a human. And I do understand the primary reason why Pocahontas is kinda in the middle when it comes to popularity is because of how awful the real story is, I feel a lot of people forget how powerful she really is. She struggles the entire movie of being true to herself and satisfying her father and people’s expectations of her by being forced to marry a respected warrior who she knew she could never love. The reason why she’s able to befriend and fall in love with John Smith instead is because she could tell how similar he was to herself, and didn’t see him like her people did. And she loves how he completely embraces her as she truly is and doesn’t try to get her to be someone else. But ultimately, she was the first princess to stop a war on her own and actually save her man, being the hero in her story, not John. Even in the end, she made the heartbreaking decision of staying with her people over being with someone she didn’t want to leave, and really wanted to see his world. She felt like her people didn’t really understand her, but she still cared about them and just didn’t have the heart to leave them for a little while, fearing she was endangering them if she left to pursue her happiness. And I admire she doesn’t choose a man she didn’t know for long over her people she had a duty to protect and lead one day. Even in the sequel, I love how she was willing to risk her life and possibly never seeing them again to create peace. The part Nakoma cried about very possibly never seeing her best friend ever again was really heartfelt and one of the few scenes in that movie that didn’t have me screaming in rage. I personally don’t find Pocahontas boring as a character, as she’s very strong and has character growth as well. I just feel her movie is a lot deeper and mature than most are willing to admit. One of my Pocahontas friends even admitted she actually loved the sad ending of Pocahontas, because it proved the romance wasn’t the point of the movie. And while I disagree, I slightly appreciate its a different kind of happy ending. Pocahontas really wanted to be with John more than anything, but she loved him too much to let him die in her land when he had a chance to recover if he went home. Her happiness was making sure her people remained safe and peaceful with the English, but ultimately making sure John got better, even if the price was never seeing him again. Like, what happened if Ariel discovered being a human wasn’t everything she imagined and chose to stay a mermaid instead? Would Eric have abandoned his kingdom to be with her? And that’s something I really loved about the ending of Pocahontas, after she sadly declined his offer, he immediately chose to stay because he didn’t want her to make such a difficult decision of feeling she was being forced to choose between her people and him, he was completely ok with dying so she didn’t have to make that choice. While with Rolfe, I really don’t buy their romance at all, and it felt his choice to dump everything just to be with Pocahontas felt he didn’t really comprehend how much he was going to have to learn and change to be able to live like her people. Let alone he doesn’t even bother to get to know her as a person, making the movie that much more irritating. While her romance with John Smith, I always loved how it didn’t automatically begin as a relationship. Yeah they definitely were entranced by their beauty, but their love truly comes from them actually getting to know each other a little better and learning valuable lessons from the other. Like a lot of people always claim “John only liked her beauty and was going to shoot her at first” and proceed to forget about this song and the ending entirely, including saving her dad’s life. I’m not trying to bash other couples, as each have their own dynamics and morals and stuff, but I don’t get why Aladdin and Jasmine or even Hercules and Meg are a lot more popular than Pocahontas and John Smith, given how much Aladdin and Meg lie and manipulate Hercules and Jasmine. And for whatever reason John being racist is the worst sin imaginable and is a completely unforgivable crime? Despite he even argued with his comrades about the war, saying the natives aren’t savages and can be trusted. Just don’t understand what else he had to do in the movie to prove he deeply and truly regretted how he acted before and really does want to help make things right by helping create peace
@michaelplurad8121
@michaelplurad8121 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Gibson actually provided the singing voice for his character. I find that very admirable, when people who are not trained singers fully embrace the role.
@Bbq_kiwi
@Bbq_kiwi 3 жыл бұрын
It killed me to learn he was the voice of John Smith lol like nooo my childhood crush ruined
@josterio2.071
@josterio2.071 3 жыл бұрын
It's rare now.
@sofiesbox
@sofiesbox 2 жыл бұрын
His is a pleasant singing voice. Did it for me and the character.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Actually most Disney VAs actually sing I believe for their characters. Pocahontas unfortunately was sung different. But I don’t care if he didn’t sound British enough, Mel Gibson had a beautiful deep voice.
@overcomingobstaclescreates1695
@overcomingobstaclescreates1695 2 жыл бұрын
@@kristinahuchison2511 Nowadays most Disney VAs also sing their characters, but that was definitely not the norm in the 90s.
@PhamNguyenLinhLan
@PhamNguyenLinhLan 5 жыл бұрын
Hands down John Smith is one of the hottest Disney male characters!
@nikklh.9240
@nikklh.9240 4 жыл бұрын
Since I was a kid, John S. and Phoebus (Hunchback) are the ONLY REAL MEN in Disney Movies in my view, the others are sweet, but to young for my taste 🤣🤣
@jadabates9719
@jadabates9719 4 жыл бұрын
He rivals Tarzan.
@unnie3101
@unnie3101 4 жыл бұрын
Shang from Mulan fine too
@arielandmalody6573
@arielandmalody6573 4 жыл бұрын
@@unnie3101 And Aladin and Erick
@unnie3101
@unnie3101 4 жыл бұрын
Ariel and Malody yessss❤️
@lrosex8953
@lrosex8953 9 жыл бұрын
NO NO NO NO THIS SO SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE ORIGINAL! THIS BIT HERE IN THE RIVER 3:50 IS LIKE PARALLEL TO JUST AROUND THE RIVER BEND WHEN SHE SEES HERSELF WITH KOCOUM AND NOW SHE REALISES HER PATH WAS JOHN SMITH AND SHE SEES IT NOW YES THIS BIT I FEEL IS SO IMPORTANT IT SHOWS SUCH AN INTIMATE SIDE TO POCAHONTAS AND JOHN SMITH THAT YOU DON'T SEE THAT MUCH IN THE FILM AND IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL W OW
@darthnowlan
@darthnowlan 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@joanastresewski8880
@joanastresewski8880 9 жыл бұрын
Yes you're right, I agree with you too :((
@OSOVexing
@OSOVexing 9 жыл бұрын
It was removed because although older audiences liked it, they thought it was too mature for the child audiences. It was a good song for the plot and really made their separation and the sequel all the more heartbreaking for them.
@prdukcja2643
@prdukcja2643 9 жыл бұрын
^ Ul kto.
@sototallyshannon
@sototallyshannon 9 жыл бұрын
L Rosex im so glad someone else is so passionate about this omg
@crazydacey
@crazydacey 3 жыл бұрын
Can we at least acknowledge that the scene of John Smith looking up to the sky and it suddenly becomes the water Pocahontas is paddling through is one of the most beautiful transitions in any disney movie?
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! Also the part they’re looking at the moon during her verse and when she sings his first verse he starts singing “There’s no moment I regret, since the moment that we met, if our time has gone too fast, I’ve lived at last” and it transitions to their happiest memories together (unfortunately without the kiss) but I’m so HAPPY the sunflower scene was in there, it’s always been one of my favorite scenes as a kid and I’m actually getting a tattoo of it
@sumayaomar9067
@sumayaomar9067 5 ай бұрын
yesss
@taylormoore7104
@taylormoore7104 4 жыл бұрын
In my heart, John Smith and Pocahontas are together. I refuse to acknowledge the sequel because these two were meant for each other🥺
@DarkButterflyChikage
@DarkButterflyChikage 4 жыл бұрын
Sequel doesn't exist...even in disney parks they don't count it...they sell pocahontas and john smith's dolls...he is the real husbando!!!
@jomac841
@jomac841 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be that person lol. Though the sequel was awful technically the real Pocahontas never married John Smith but instead really did marry John Rolfe.
@DarkButterflyChikage
@DarkButterflyChikage 4 жыл бұрын
@@jomac841 dude since when Disney was accurate? Little Mermaid OG : dead; Quasimodo: dead...the snow queen: dead. Og Pocahontas: Deaad in a foreign country, domesticated by the Colony
@terrencelewis645
@terrencelewis645 3 жыл бұрын
Then you refuse to acknowledge history... 🤦🏽‍♂️
@taylormoore7104
@taylormoore7104 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrencelewis645 I’m very aware of the history and how the Pocahontas Disney movie was extremely inaccurate. I was saying that purely as a DISNEY FAN. I’m sure neither of the movies were totally accurate. They’re not meant to be. They’re KIDS MOVIES. They’re weren’t going to include the actual history of the colonists and how the Native Americans suffered. THEY’RE AIMING TO KIDS! I watched it when I was four years old and still love it today as an adult, AS A DISNEY FAN, but I acknowledge history and I’m very aware it’s not an accurate portrayal. But no Disney movie is meant to be.
@jaeycl
@jaeycl 4 жыл бұрын
WHY DID DISNEY STOP MAKING GOOD MUSIC. I WANT SONGS LIKE THIS, I WANT MORE REFLECTION AND YOULL BE IN MY HEART AND I CAN GO THE DISTANCE AND MORE 2D MOVIES. PLEASE BRING BACK MY CHILDHOOD. I DONT NEED CGI. I NEED TO GRASP WHAT LITTLE CHILDHOOD I CAN REMEMBER
@eatthebottle3297
@eatthebottle3297 4 жыл бұрын
U go ya spunky kid😭
@ravensart4494
@ravensart4494 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly same 😫❤
@lisettecortes974
@lisettecortes974 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but I think Speechless from Aladdin is a great song 🎵
@jordanhaines8497
@jordanhaines8497 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes SAME. Those movies affected me so deeply as a child and i was in such awe. They made me who i am today. And I'm not just being dramatic. The 2D is stunning and peaceful and feels like home. I miss it. And the music was something you could fall asleep to. Very beautiful
@springlady8337
@springlady8337 4 жыл бұрын
Disney songs used to be like ballads and songs that ordinary people could actually sing but now they are HEAVY with the broadway style. It makes me feel like I’m watching a stage musical now but back then it felt like I was watching a masterpiece of a film.
@risnawidyalestari1124
@risnawidyalestari1124 7 жыл бұрын
John Smith has the most beautiful voice of Disney Princes and has the best jawline too. He is also the most charismatic Disney Princes
@christinemartin1352
@christinemartin1352 7 жыл бұрын
He was why I've been trying to sing and learn the lyrics to this song. I didn't even know Mel Gibson could sing!
@feathernoteproductions3538
@feathernoteproductions3538 6 жыл бұрын
lol jawline
@raesmith2164
@raesmith2164 6 жыл бұрын
Risna Widya Lestari and then she had to leave him for fucking John Rolfe... 😒😬
@kpbennett7743
@kpbennett7743 5 жыл бұрын
Well... Eugene from tangled is a quick second in charisma
@hannahskeldon7944
@hannahskeldon7944 5 жыл бұрын
@@christinemartin1352 I think I read somewhere that he had some stints on Broadway before he became an actor and Mel Gibson revealed on the Wonderful World of Disney they had to alter and change the music and tone quite a bit so he could do it right and sound purer, but he managed to do it fantastically.
@cabellero1120
@cabellero1120 Жыл бұрын
" I won't leave you!" " You never will. I'll always be with you." A beautiful sentiment. This is what Love should be, ideally.
@regalknight6738
@regalknight6738 8 жыл бұрын
Person: This is not accur- Me: *SHUT THE HELL UP, IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!!!!*
@raesmith2164
@raesmith2164 6 жыл бұрын
Regal Knight yass me too. I'm a history buff so when I was little, I got annoyed with all the inaccuracies, but now, I don't give a damn because they were meant for each other
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 5 жыл бұрын
@@raesmith2164 human growth is a beautiful thing isn't it
@raesmith2164
@raesmith2164 5 жыл бұрын
@@splashnskillz37 yup. Ain't that the truth.
@TashayiaBusby
@TashayiaBusby 5 жыл бұрын
YES !
@DiligoBarba
@DiligoBarba 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry IT DIDN'T HAPPEN ah the tranny of false emotions for a FAKE couple they're well drawn, but I like Pocahontas with her REAL HUSBAND thankyou very much and so does her ancestors.
@WijaxJun
@WijaxJun 10 жыл бұрын
If we wanted a historically accurate presentation, we wouldn't even watch Disney movies, okay? So yes, we get it that originally Pocahontas was very young and was never in love with Smith. But that's history - in which this animation was based on, but NOT entirely the same thing. In this media, they made us believe that the two of them were in love with each other...but then to suddenly turn around and tell me "lol no we were kidding, it was a one time thing, Pocahontas is in love with this other dude" which kind of shove some BS into our throats just because they think we'll take it no problem. But this kind of thing ruins everything the first movie was ever created for. Which is why, I take this first movie as a stand alone and why Pocahontas 2 never existed to me.
@WijaxJun
@WijaxJun 10 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would rather read about history or watch a more accurately presented work than this. Disney animated movies were created to make magic happen...which is one of the greatest things I look out for when they release a new work. Accuracy went out of the window from the get go with their first princess movies - Snow White? If people knew the original work, it's not as happy as the animated movie so I have no idea what Disney ate to let the people who kept complaining about the inaccuracy of Pocahontas to get to them. I mean they worked so hard on the first movie, to let outsiders to get to you means you've lost your original purpose and it's not your work anymore, it's someone else's.
@joseeduardogarciaparrilla8639
@joseeduardogarciaparrilla8639 10 жыл бұрын
to those people it's like watching Hercules for appropriate Greek mythology... for one Hercules is Roman.. as well as Cupid.. the Greek names are Heracles, and Eros. As well as Hera wasn't actually his mom, in either Myth, but she hated and constantly tried to kill him (not Hades) throughout his lifespan :P because it was a greek tragedy D;
@WijaxJun
@WijaxJun 10 жыл бұрын
But of course Disney won't put that in there lol
@michaelhealey9096
@michaelhealey9096 10 жыл бұрын
cry about it. disney is better than you
@WijaxJun
@WijaxJun 10 жыл бұрын
Just because we're nobodies doesn't make Disney better than us. Just so you know.
@girlonabookshelf4922
@girlonabookshelf4922 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently this was boring to the original audiences of this movie...I want words with these people...
@fish98ful
@fish98ful 6 жыл бұрын
Meghan Robertshaw I know right ! This is such a beautiful part and people could defiantly learn from this scene
@RamdomRando
@RamdomRando 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most romantic disney songs ive heard, the people who thought it was boring probably never fell in love before.
@Maryland2
@Maryland2 6 жыл бұрын
The Denisse well the screen test audience were abunch of kids so yes.
@damonika09
@damonika09 6 жыл бұрын
Emily Pesce ironically this was my favorite song from this movie. I wouldn’t have minded it. Lol.
@AlexanderLong
@AlexanderLong 6 жыл бұрын
I think this scene was never included in first rough cut at all, it was not animated until 2004. This animation was made special for the DVD release as a special feature, just like what they did with "human again" in Beauty and beast
@PupRiku
@PupRiku 4 жыл бұрын
How this could be rejected by initial audiences throws me to this day. It's one of my all time favourite Disney songs, thank god the appreciation for it has developed over the years.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the test audiences were literally kids, like 3 year olds. The song isn’t like previous love songs which are visually entertaining, its meant to focus on the here and now as both really thought this was their last time together. Plus it has a more mature tone because it’s not about falling in love, rather just how much John really loves her, and doesn’t even want to imagine a life never meeting or loving her. Plus it also is meant to be sweet yet soothing as Pocahontas feels everything is her fault and everyone including John hates her. But that’s not true at all! He’s even more in love with her than ever before, and would do anything to protect her! But oh course little kids obviously weren’t going to understand the more mature tone of their relationship, especially with the sad ending having a more realistic and mature tone. All Disney couples except Pocahontas and John Smith got happily ever afters. Cutting this song had several huge mistakes, but the worst is I really believe if it wasn’t cut a lot more people would like John a lot more as a Disney Prince instead of constantly complaining how arrogant and cocky he is. Does he look like a f*cking colonizer in this song or when he took a bullet to save her dad?! Did you know Part of Your World was so close (and I mean really close) to being cut from the Little Mermaid for the same reason? Howard Ashman fought like hell to keep it in, and it ended up sparking a Renaissance! So why the heck Disney didn’t learn from the first time they almost made that mistake?! Worse is Pocahontas’s movie is actually shorter than the others, which I seriously don’t get why
@PupRiku
@PupRiku Жыл бұрын
@@kristinahuchison2511 If Part of Your World was cut, I don't think Disney would have been able to get to Pocahontas, nevermind Treasure Planet
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@PupRiku well, Little Mermaid wouldn’t have been as successful imo. The song made Ariel the first Disney princess whose dreams weren’t purely about a man. Heck, the song was ordered to be cut, and she was going to have to have a song about desiring Eric. The song is literally what launched the Renaissance. What I’m saying is imagine how much better Pocahontas would’ve done back then if the song wasn’t cut? Which is so stupid why it’s not even available on Disney+
@TimeandMonotony
@TimeandMonotony 10 жыл бұрын
I truly think Pocahontas is very underrated among Disney movies. Sure, it fucks with history, but it's not based on Pocahontas' actual life, it's based on her legend. And it actually sticks pretty close to the 'legend' of Pocahontas, if not the the life of Pocahontas. This is a lovely song, but I can understand why they cut it. Mel Gibson has a surprisingly good singing voice. I know he sang earlier in the movie, but this shows off his talent more. And Judy Kuhn, of course, what can you say that hasn't already been said.
@Schockocrispie
@Schockocrispie 10 жыл бұрын
Nearly every Disney movie fucks up with history :) So whats about the hunchback or anastasia, Pocahontas is the closest because the persons she met are the real one. In the hunchback there even never existed someone like foebus... But juts lets enjoy this faboulos movie and the great massage he tells us :) Btw sry for this try of english :)
@TimeandMonotony
@TimeandMonotony 10 жыл бұрын
Schockocrispie Anastasia isn't a Disney movie, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame isn't based on a true story, it's based on a book. :) But yes, I agree.
@joosoo
@joosoo 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Native Americans were practically wiped out and are still treated like shit, a lot of their historical sites are overrun by the government and defaced, like Mount Rushmore. It’s sort of disturbing you would take the story of a 12 year old girl from a group of people who are still oppressed and turn into a romance between her and some old drunkard who made up the “the legend of Pocahontas”, when the reality is that Matoeka was kidnapped, her husband murdered, and her father blackmailed into trying to pay her ransom over and over without the settlers ever letting him see his daughter again, and then she was shipped off to England to be forcibly married and raped by John Rolfe, just to appease the royals that the Natives weren’t being mistreated by forcing Matoeka to pretend everything was fine until she dies away from her homeland. Like… yeah, I see the big problem with that. Anastasia is about the only animated movie I could say that lands in that historical fantasy genre, and it doesn’t feel nearly as icky or disrespectful as Pocahontas.
@TimeandMonotony
@TimeandMonotony 2 жыл бұрын
@@joosoo Are you always this much fun?
@joosoo
@joosoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimeandMonotony “wehhhh real life history and the genocide and oppression of the Natives doesn’t make me feel good!!”
@sioapekupu1756
@sioapekupu1756 4 жыл бұрын
When Pocahontas says "I can't leave you" while touching him and the look in her eyes AHHHHHHHHH!!! I lost it!!
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 4 жыл бұрын
they had me whipped when i was 6 and it still makes me feel a LOT even when i'm older. i can't forget my first ship ever lol
@litefury9839
@litefury9839 4 жыл бұрын
SAMEEEEE OMG
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
We gonna ignore they almost kissed one last time before stupid Nakoma interrupted? He literally kissed her hand before she left, that had to sting like crazy they didn’t even get a farewell kiss
@ZannaZatanna1
@ZannaZatanna1 8 жыл бұрын
Second movie? What second movie? Lalala, I can't hear you!
@cupcakefluff16
@cupcakefluff16 8 жыл бұрын
+ZannaZatanna1 Exactly! I just pretend it never happened
@alyreadsbooks7560
@alyreadsbooks7560 8 жыл бұрын
That's what I do. Because there wasn't a second movie. There should of been so we could see Pocahontas and John Smith get married. But, we can just infer😂😂😂
@waylonguini133
@waylonguini133 8 жыл бұрын
+cupcakefluff16 I know , there love was rushed and nothing new or meaningful!
@silverwoodmeadows9877
@silverwoodmeadows9877 8 жыл бұрын
Eh, I disagree. This song would hit so much harder if they never met again
@divadonarres425
@divadonarres425 8 жыл бұрын
+Silverwood Meadows they meet again in heaven
@kdfever1732
@kdfever1732 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that, when Pocahontas saw herself with John Smith on the water, she gave her hand and let John kiss it. It shows that, at this point in her life, she finally found somehow whom she entrusted with her heart. While in the beginning, where she also saw herself with Kocoum on the water, Kocoum asked for her hand but she didn't gave it to him until he disappeared.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Same! That part is so adorable, showing she couldn’t go through with marrying someone she would never love the same way, she just didn’t know how to tell him no. While John Smith loved her exactly as she was and loved her even though he was going to die. Honestly the way he holds her hand is like it was a delicate flower, giving it a gentle loving kiss before sadly vanishing as if to say “I’m sorry for breaking your heart, I will always love you” This is something no one has noticed yet: before this scene (not in the video) she tells Nakoma “All of this happened because of me. And now I’ll never see John Smith again” this implies she was actually scared of seeing him one more time because she was so scared he would blame her for his death sentence or didn’t love her anymore. She’s so overwhelmed with grief and sadness, notice when she first enters the wigwam, his head keeps lowering because he has no desire to see whoever is there, but the moment he recognizes her his eyes lit up just like the first time he looked at her! She immediately breaks down and even snaps out of sadness everything would’ve been better if they never met. He was trying to cheer her up by literally joking about dying because all he wanted was to see her smile one last time! She’s so overwhelmed with grief and guilt she lets her frustrations slip a little. I just love how this song is like soothing a deep burn. Its so gentle, comforting but ultimately loving! It isn’t about kissing the girl, a beauty finding goodness in the beast or discovering a whole new world, or even can you feel the love tonight. It’s about if they never knew each other, how they completed each other in ways no one else ever did and their love is literally based on understanding and appreciating their differences!
@cellytron
@cellytron Жыл бұрын
DUDE I’ve watched this movie 400 times and I never noticed that!
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@cellytron I mean, this song sadly wasn’t in theaters. But yes, that moment of contrasting her letting John take her hand when she refused Kocuom just shows how much she truly loves John and vice versa. Imo the 2 scenes are meant to reflect how Pocahontas sees each man: Kocuom expected her to marry him and didn’t really care or consider her feelings, while John loves her so much and she is so precious to him, but he’s so sorry for breaking her heart as shown when he disappears
@LeafInTheWind88
@LeafInTheWind88 Жыл бұрын
I’m just noticing that. Beautiful isn’t it?❤️
@Elysia63
@Elysia63 Жыл бұрын
​@@kristinahuchison2511Do you bet Kocoum's crush love for Pocahontas was actually his *downfall* when Thomas shot and killed him when he tried to kill John from taking his fiance away from him?
@Tiix3
@Tiix3 8 жыл бұрын
I'M NOT CRYING, YOU'RE CRYING
@IfyouBelleve
@IfyouBelleve 8 жыл бұрын
Just the chopped onions is all!
@danielasundberg9207
@danielasundberg9207 8 жыл бұрын
YEAH, I'M CRYING.
@TheMolotovCupcake
@TheMolotovCupcake 8 жыл бұрын
OMG HOW DID YOU KNOW
@unknownunknown9580
@unknownunknown9580 8 жыл бұрын
God damn it how did you know!?
@rileymclellan8953
@rileymclellan8953 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, where are your cameras? Who said you could spy on me?
@chloedraper2984
@chloedraper2984 5 жыл бұрын
"There's no moment I regret Since the moment that we met If our time has gone too fast I've lived at last" 😭 2:37 *TEARS*
@susanae1410
@susanae1410 4 жыл бұрын
Queen Chloe *FR BRO*
@louera
@louera 3 жыл бұрын
yes 🥺
@edenn.6168
@edenn.6168 3 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite part
@josterio2.071
@josterio2.071 3 жыл бұрын
Wedding vows in a nutshell
@chloedraper2984
@chloedraper2984 2 жыл бұрын
@@josterio2.071 yesss omg
@AlexHedgehogStan
@AlexHedgehogStan 4 жыл бұрын
WHO DECIDED TO CUT IT OUT?! It's such a beautiful song 😭
@rachelharvey977
@rachelharvey977 2 жыл бұрын
They decided to cut it because they thought the song "took away from the message of the movie" Like no give it to me😭😭😭😭
@rosesweetcharlotte
@rosesweetcharlotte Жыл бұрын
@@rachelharvey977 But this song is the message of the movie!
@rachelharvey977
@rachelharvey977 Жыл бұрын
@@rosesweetcharlotte they thought that Pocahontas and John Smith's romance took away from the the other messages like the racism and such
@rosesweetcharlotte
@rosesweetcharlotte Жыл бұрын
@@rachelharvey977 But the song goes into that
@rachelharvey977
@rachelharvey977 Жыл бұрын
@@rosesweetcharlotte also the children they tested the movie on thought it was boring
@kaguraaru1744
@kaguraaru1744 6 жыл бұрын
Disney should have just focused on their own version of pocahontas and did not made a sequel just to follow the history's accuracy I will always be #TeamJohnSmith
@AlejandroReyes-ev7zs
@AlejandroReyes-ev7zs 4 жыл бұрын
Kagura China honestly same , #FuckJohnRough
@kaylacomeau1111
@kaylacomeau1111 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else feel as though they mixed up the personalities of John Smith and John Rolfe in the second movie. John Smith wasn't as cocky in the first movie, he was understanding and open to learning about her culture. He even wanted to stay with her in the end but he had to leave to save his life. But in the second movie he was extremely cocky and more interested in his promotion and having her as a trophy wife. Similar to how John Rolfe portrayed himself in the beginning of the movie.
@Stacychat
@Stacychat 4 жыл бұрын
That second movie scarred me for life. Not only did they want her to pick John Rolfe, BUT THEY MADE HER CHOOSE BETWEEN THEM. That scene when she hugs John Smith and runs to the other bastard should have never even existed. #teamjohnsmith
@izabella6891
@izabella6891 4 жыл бұрын
They might as well have made her age accurate too. Just ruin all the magic of the first.
@Stacychat
@Stacychat 4 жыл бұрын
@@izabella6891 also add the rape while at it :')
@JennieK3
@JennieK3 9 жыл бұрын
I wish they had kept this not only because it's so beautiful and an amazing song, but because it brings to so much to John Smith's character. Remember at the beginning of the movie when he's watching everyone say goodbye to their loved ones and he's only known as this absolute beast? All the sudden he's become this passionate man who realizes he was wrong and he's suddenly willing to give his life up to someone else and he no longer acts out of vanity like he use to.
@feathernoteproductions3538
@feathernoteproductions3538 6 жыл бұрын
:D
@divinitycarson7067
@divinitycarson7067 6 жыл бұрын
Which is a beautiful thing but how does he know that Pocahontas didnt get lost while he was being the beast & needs revival like in what dreams may come
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I mean aside he’s a mini celebrity and undoubtedly a ladykiller he doesn’t really have anyone close. I mean in the scene when she asks if he’ll go home, and he responds he doesn’t really have a home, I’m a bit bummed she doesn’t ask if he had a family that misses him, and maybe he reveals he was an orphan and that’s why he joined the military, a great way to explore the worlds and even made a name for himself, despite now it’s in a way meaningless because his response secretly indicates as long as he’s with her he’s happy. Watch any scene after they met he isn’t with her, he RARELY smiled which shows how much his heart longs to be with her
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
@@divinitycarson7067 “Lost forever” is such a sad line as it emotes to him being the thing the spinning arrow was pointing to the entire time. I’m kinda bummed she doesn’t say anything like “I knew it was you” he says “What did you say??” and she shyly responds “Oh nothing” And it does kinda relate how in their separation they feel incomplete because their hearts long to be with each other
@romancerjar16
@romancerjar16 8 жыл бұрын
This made me hate the second movie even more, because this song showed how romantic these two were, the other two in the sequel which won't be named showed no signs of a love building up in the movie. These two John Smith and Pocahontas will always be my winning couple no matter what really happened
@pauchavez5122
@pauchavez5122 8 жыл бұрын
me too i hate the second movie because i mean jonh and pocahontas forever but well that what happen in real life.. because you do know this happen in real right?
@romancerjar16
@romancerjar16 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately I do know it's supposed to be real life accurate. Ugh
@graceface9455
@graceface9455 8 жыл бұрын
IKR!!!!! And she didn't even choose the cute one! 😂
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This song pretty much explains why Rolfe never stood a f*cking chance with her. How the f*ck both Pocahontas and John Smith completely forgot If I Never Knew You is beyond disrespectful and insulting. A song literally about how alone and empty you’d be if you never met, and how you completed each other through your differences!
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
@@graceface9455 ikr! Even Quasimodo is cuter than Rolfe. She picked a dud over a stud 😂
@fanya9399
@fanya9399 3 жыл бұрын
For me Pocahontas is the most meaningfull disney movie, its like love has no race, color, or religion, love is just love ♡
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Honestly they literally have the most beautiful romance of any of the other couples aside Rapunzel and Flynn Rider. The fact its more focused on their relationship instead of colonialism just makes it that more beautiful.
@joeandrews7329
@joeandrews7329 Жыл бұрын
@@kristinahuchison2511 another story is like Pocahontas, Mulan. Except the enemy is the Hun army who burnt China's villages into a pile of carbon!. From Joe. X
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@sunsetwilde for your information, I literally knew the real story as a kid before I even saw the movie. Never affected how I viewed the characters though. Why are you on here if you hate the movie? Go away if all you’re gonna do is spew sh*t on it to get people to agree with you
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@sunsetwilde also its literally a Disney movie. I do agree that it definitely should not have been based on a real story, but the point is John was willing to accept he was so wrong about how he viewed people like her. The movie isn’t meant to represent how awful colonizers actually were towards Native Americans. The point is he was willing to learn from his mistakes and try and convince his comrades to do the same. Not all Europeans were awful towards them, and the point of his character development is to show it wasn’t too late for him to become a better man. He clearly felt so awful and embarrassed about how long it took him to see he was the savage one, not Pocahontas’s people. If you actually listened to the song, you’d see and hear in his voice he deeply regrets how he used to see the world, and that’s why he loves Pocahontas so much. Because he knows how hateful and unchanged he’d still be if they never met. So stop trying to b*tch about actual events and just enjoy the video or leave.
@johnburpi8484
@johnburpi8484 Жыл бұрын
They need to play this for the whole country again. Don’t let hate divide us all
@rebeccatabor5508
@rebeccatabor5508 5 жыл бұрын
Outside the context of history, the way this story was written was extremely intimate, passionate, and dreamy. This entire duet between John and Pocahontas is exxxtrreemmmely passionate, but the way it was written and staged, the obvious love between them is so breathtaking. This is what love can be. A lot of people will be like “oh, its just a movie” but listen- love can be like this. A feeling that is so passionate. I’m just upset that I found this out so many years later. This duet really shows how passionate their dynamic is. Just so much chemistry gone because they cut this out.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
I agree so much. I absolutely hate it whenever I see some dumbass claiming the movie was better without it because of them not having enough time for a song. Since when is a song’s time logic relevant to the story’s time logic? Colors of the Wind literally shows her bending time just to show him a constellation, hence it would’ve taken FOREVER to get through it with all the running around they did. For a long time the waterfall encounter was my favorite part, still is because how beautiful and intense it was. But this is what I consider the second heart of the movie. Without it, it completely chopped out a different side of John Smith, considering this song is very similar to CotW where its his turn to show how wrong she is about never meeting each other. I also really love how it isn’t visually entertaining like every other Disney love song, it’s literally focused in the here and now as Pocahontas can’t stop crying and he’s comforting her through his deep base voice. Eric needed a singing crab, Beast needed a singing teapot and Aladdin needed a genie (disguise) and a magic carpet. All John Smith needed was a pair of shackles. And that’s what makes this song even more saddening yet beautiful especially in V2 “If I never held you…” because he is emoting to how badly he wants to hold her in his big strong arms, showing he will never leave her and will ultimately protect her from any danger, but all he can do is be there for her. Especially the part he headtouched her and is freaking nuzzling with her! His wrists are itching so much, his hands are probably going numb and he’s probably dislocated his shoulders having to lean that far just to touch her, but he doesn’t give a sh*t about his physical pain because not to touching her hurts way more. But yes the duet is when I really lost it. I don’t even mind it reusing previous scenes in the movie because it shows they sadly can’t make anymore memories, but they’ll never forget the love in these. How anyone likes her with Rolfe more is beyond me. Smith almost died taking a bullet for her dad, while Rolfe flat out kept trying to change her into who he wanted
@officialjayi
@officialjayi 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing stopping me from crying is focusing on how sharp their jawlines are.
@feathernoteproductions3538
@feathernoteproductions3538 6 жыл бұрын
AGAIN WITH THE JAWLINES
@kateyfruehauf2328
@kateyfruehauf2328 4 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHA this made me geek
@disneydisney1490
@disneydisney1490 3 жыл бұрын
Their kids would have been so powerful
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
We gonna ignore their kids would have gorgeous hair too?
@Zoey_0629
@Zoey_0629 21 күн бұрын
​@@kristinahuchison2511 REAL. Like I wish I had hair like them 😂
@barbaraespinoza9564
@barbaraespinoza9564 5 жыл бұрын
cartoon characters have a better connection than most hollywood couples.
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 4 жыл бұрын
Barbara Espinoza how i feel whenever i watch scenes between these two and anastasia & dimitri tbh
@chinny7700
@chinny7700 3 жыл бұрын
@@theladyprincess yess Anastasia !
@disgustedcharlie6679
@disgustedcharlie6679 2 жыл бұрын
Technically they were made by hollywood so technically they are a Hollywood couple
@rodrigogonzalez7858
@rodrigogonzalez7858 2 жыл бұрын
O agree. A better connection than those live-action “romantic” movies showing toxic or failed couples
@a.mp.m7340
@a.mp.m7340 5 ай бұрын
2024 still listening! Ignoring all the people hating on this movie.
@aidandavis8832
@aidandavis8832 Ай бұрын
Same,most beautiful movie Disney ever made peak love story fr
@Ginn31
@Ginn31 Ай бұрын
Same right here. It's damn beautiful in this otherwise dying and morbid world. I take this every day.
@romanumeralz
@romanumeralz Ай бұрын
👊🏽
@marksoliva2332
@marksoliva2332 9 жыл бұрын
"I rather die tomorrow than live a 100 years without knowing you" Damn that shit is deep. Such an awesome scene :)
@ogorodami
@ogorodami 8 жыл бұрын
Screw history. Screw the sequel.
@jacquelynmartin196
@jacquelynmartin196 8 жыл бұрын
took the words right out of me!
@ma.angelica3771
@ma.angelica3771 8 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@swimfreestyle18
@swimfreestyle18 8 жыл бұрын
lols. i know right. damn john rolfe.
@amandasanders4114
@amandasanders4114 8 жыл бұрын
Yes.!!!
@ticcitoby894
@ticcitoby894 8 жыл бұрын
hell ya
@lemabarkzai195
@lemabarkzai195 7 жыл бұрын
bro...WHO WAS THE IDIOT WHO DECIDED TO CUT THIS SONG FROM THE FILM! this song displays so much feeling for the movie and to the plot/climax
@amethyst5761
@amethyst5761 5 жыл бұрын
Lema Barkzai Wait... this *is* in the movie??? I always see it when I’m watching movie. Do I just own a rare version of this movie or something?
@laurahenckens
@laurahenckens 5 жыл бұрын
They thought it would be inapropriate and boring in a disney movie because of children🙁🙁
@amethyst5761
@amethyst5761 5 жыл бұрын
The Gacha Couple wow. I swear I’ve seen this, maybe I have to go back and rewatch the movie. But i swear I remember watching this, i love the music
@yasnaynavarrete7411
@yasnaynavarrete7411 5 жыл бұрын
They took so many bad desitions back then... like making Pocahontas 2 for example
@MrGabeanator
@MrGabeanator 5 жыл бұрын
@@whythough9753 actually no
@thegirlwholovesmusic
@thegirlwholovesmusic 4 ай бұрын
as someone who had trauma in their childhood and didn’t receive love, John smiths words hit so hard as a kid. I used to imagine my future partner and finally feeling love. I totally forgot about this song as a teen and adult and now rediscovering it, having loved and lost someone, this song hits even harder. because even though I can’t be with him anymore… I will always be grateful to the one who came along and loved me. ❤
@bre_me
@bre_me 8 жыл бұрын
This is so gorgeous, why doesn't Disney make animated movies like this instead of that weird 3D thing?
@KashaLupul
@KashaLupul 8 жыл бұрын
Because God hates us
@rociojuarez5489
@rociojuarez5489 7 жыл бұрын
Because the new CEO laid off all the animators that did THEE best work in these movies and in the industry to merge Pixar with Disney and bring about 3D movies you see now. They're more into the new modern generation rather than the classic fairy tale genre and would prefer to bring about Miyazaki films too--anime and 3D movies generate more profit since that's the current trend.
@snickerdoodle212
@snickerdoodle212 6 жыл бұрын
Laziness.
@rayjohnson67
@rayjohnson67 6 жыл бұрын
because the last animation movie they mad, did so badly compered to what they thought, that they released that that kind of art is not working anymore, cause when most adult see a traditional drawn movie they thing "for kids" but when they see a 3D movie they think "an adult can watch this" regardless of the type of movie. so Disney releasing where the money at went in that direction, and if you think they are wrong for doing that, well before they merged with Pixar, they were dying like for real, the only thing keeping them from crushing was Pixar, and when their contract with Pixar was ending Disney did the only smart thing they could, they bought Pixar, and give them foll control over Disney. also if you are wondering what animation i was talking about, it was the princesses and the frog, and i know what your saying "but that is a great movie" and you are right, Disney thought it would be a huge success, but it wasn't, even thought it was a great movie and Disney worked really hard on, it was not as successful as i should have been, or as Disney was hoping it would, so they had to go 3D.
@anzelatte6993
@anzelatte6993 6 жыл бұрын
Even so 3D is now a trend, it would be nicer if Disney still make movies applying this style of animation. It's just sincere and classic!
@heypeaches8816
@heypeaches8816 6 жыл бұрын
honestly, i dont know how she ended up loving the other john. Here, you can see the love. The animators do such a good job at showing that in every little look and movement, the forehead touch, the hand kiss, everything. With the other guy, it's sort of like "oh yea i love her" from one scene to the next. I understand if she tried getting over smith because she thought he was dead so she wanted to move on with her life and not get tied down to the past but whem she found out he was alive, how did her heart not flutter like it did before?? The chemistry between the two was way betger than her and rolfe. I mean, he was pretty rude from the beginning. And i dont care about that "historical accuracy". Since when did disney care either. I really wished smith ended up with her...
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 5 жыл бұрын
i watched this movie again recently after almost more than a decade and as i'm older i gotta say their chemistry was like off the hook (for a cartoon it was REALLY intense) which is probably why i loved them as a kid, and still do till now. this was the first romance i got invested in lmaoo
@everythingedits7665
@everythingedits7665 5 жыл бұрын
heypeaches * Low key wish they didn’t make the second one so they could change it 😂, I want a remade sequel with Mel Gibson playing John Smith, the sequel John sounds not right 😂😩
@brianatudose698
@brianatudose698 4 жыл бұрын
@@theladyprincess same. I watched both the original movie and the sequel again yesterday and now I am so pissed off that John Smith and Pocahontas didn't end up together. They had such a great chemistry
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 4 жыл бұрын
Briana Tudose honestly even after all these years those two still give me all the feels that personally i don’t think i’ve felt as much with another couple from a disney movie
@NataliaSanchez-df4pt
@NataliaSanchez-df4pt 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the writers tried to make Pocahontas and John Rolfe's chemistry in the style of the Anastasia and Dimitri's development (in the Anastasia movie), since John Rolfe started their relationship being rude and sexist and a lot worse, but.... They kinda forgot(? they've already gave us this beautiful and wonderful story beetwen Pocahontas and John Smith, can't be beaten that easily
@XGothicPonysX
@XGothicPonysX 8 жыл бұрын
I always laugh when people are always "they never loved each other in real history bla bla bla it's not accurate! This movie is horrible!" There is literally a talking tree in the movie and you're going on about the accuracy of their relationship? Who cares, it made a great and tragic story and I love them!
@IfyouBelleve
@IfyouBelleve 8 жыл бұрын
Haha I agree 👍👍
@LiaHollenbeck
@LiaHollenbeck 8 жыл бұрын
ikr
@LinkIsOurChampion
@LinkIsOurChampion 8 жыл бұрын
I irnos about the real storyline but fuck it. This is my favourite Disney movie
@amandagoober9559
@amandagoober9559 8 жыл бұрын
The best argument ever
@nevermagic
@nevermagic 8 жыл бұрын
I think lot ppl who know real story for pocahontas just think this movie is so bad because real story is so cruel. i loved movie when i was young but when i was older and did read real story i can't just stop laughing how Americans making them look good what they did.
@thehobbityhomeschoolmama
@thehobbityhomeschoolmama 2 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't historically accurate at all, but this film still tugs at my heartstrings and I wish they would've kept this. It's such a tender moment and speaks to those first loves that don't work out but teach us how to love and appreciate it. ❤
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
I say its a mature song that unfortunately sometimes love doesn’t work the way we want. Like this song made the ending a million times sadder. Like Disney deliberately dialed up the romance and tricked us into thinking they could be together after her dad spared his life, just to shatter their happily ever after with Ratcliffe unwilling to back down and he made the heartbreaking decision to sacrifice his life to save her dad’s instead Also I wouldn’t say “first love didn’t work out” because then you make it sound like you don’t mind she chose Rolfe instead. They clearly wanted to be together more than anything in the end, but she loved him too much to let him die when he might live if he went back home. He literally tried insisting he wasn’t leaving her side when she said her people needed her more for now. But she wanted him to live, and she so badly wanted to go with him, but gave up a golden opportunity to make her dreams a reality for the greater good of her people.
@annagrear1955
@annagrear1955 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I think I just realized something When Pocahontas left he turned away and only looked at her shadow so he didn’t have to watch her leave FORGIVE ME IF I’M WRONG BUT LIKE MY GOD WHY DIDN’T THEY ADD THIS INTO THE MOVIE
@lolabunnyv
@lolabunnyv 4 жыл бұрын
The part where he turns and watches her shadow is actually still in the movie. Only the song was removed.
@mabelidove6813
@mabelidove6813 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice attention to detail 💖
@mabelidove6813
@mabelidove6813 4 жыл бұрын
It was also touching how he finished the song after she left. I'm sure she heard him from outside the tent...such a sad and touching farewell.
@a.mei.c
@a.mei.c 3 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure they did have it in the movie
@tasnimnash3897
@tasnimnash3897 3 жыл бұрын
@@a.mei.c I think it was the BlueRay version that only had it
@KiokoTama
@KiokoTama 10 жыл бұрын
"I'd rather die tomorrow, than live a hundred years without knowing you" - How could you undermine this love disney?! Pocahontus 2... you never happened!
@StarlightSong1
@StarlightSong1 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@AineAdachi
@AineAdachi 10 жыл бұрын
Starlight.Song yup john smith in pocahontus 2 is NOT the john smith we and pocahontas loved in the first movie at all so yea. lets just forget about the sequel :D
@cwoerman123
@cwoerman123 10 жыл бұрын
Aine Adachi To me john smith In Pocahontas 2 looked not as handsome as he did in the first movie. It saddens me really
@KiokoTama
@KiokoTama 10 жыл бұрын
cheyenne woerman It's the same in most Disney sequels unfortunately - less money is put into animation and the design inevitably suffers.
@cwoerman123
@cwoerman123 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Except for mulan 2. It still wasnt like the first one but pretty close
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 10 ай бұрын
Why is this song so underrated? Also anyone else feel Pocahontas and John don’t get enough love?
@hangaborbely8897
@hangaborbely8897 8 ай бұрын
So comforting that I'm not the only one who thinks this way😌
@gingerlemon865
@gingerlemon865 7 жыл бұрын
"I thought our love would be so beautiful, somehow we would make the whole world bright." I'm crying
@saharanicholas1458
@saharanicholas1458 4 жыл бұрын
when john smith sings "empty as the sky" i cry. every time. even when i can't see how much pain he's in. just his voice.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
The fact he NEVER cries either, oh man how strong he is while his heart is completely torn. Honestly the scene when he’s released and hugs her I’m surprised he doesn’t tear or when he let go of her hand in the end, you see him close his eyes as he’s too sad too look at her, so disappointed she chose not to go with him.
@mattpaul173
@mattpaul173 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people hate John. He’s a good man, brave, open minded, willing to change and gorgeous. What more could people ask for?
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
Sadly a huge reason is because he’s still based on a terrible person who was so awful towards the real Pocahontas and her people. If you’ve read even a little of the real history, you’d see her short lived life was anything BUT a fairytale unfortunately. She was even imprisoned and raped by the English, and was forced to marry John Rolfe for a political marriage because she was a chief’s daughter, for whatever peace the English promised. But yes, John Smith has always been my favorite Disney prince too! My other is Flynn Rider. But yes, it pains me so much John Smith gets sh*tted on so much in comparison to other princes just because he’s unfortunately based on a terrible person. I even read a comment once that said they completely hated John Smith BECAUSE Disney tried portraying him as this amazing man when he was the complete opposite in reality. Like, my boy changed about halfway through the movie and wasn’t afraid to confront his comrades they were wrong about the natives, that they could learn from them and coexist peacefully. He risked his own life several times just to spend time with Pocahontas, even protecting Thomas and he probably expected he’d be killed in her village that night. But ultimately, he jumped in front of a freaking bullet he knew would kill him to protect someone who hated him so much and almost killed him to declare war. And in the end when Pocahontas chose to stay with her people instead, he chose to stay with her despite he knew he’d die! But despite wanting to stay with her over surviving his wound, he honored her wish to return home without her, knowing he might not even survive before making it back in time, which added to how sad her decision was and insisting he go home. Like, I hate it whenever people try complaining “He’s a racist who called her a savage and almost killed her the first time he saw her. He’s also cocky and arrogant” Like these people clearly did NOT see him jumping in front of a damn bullet he expected to kill him to protect her dad and stop the war. Not to mention this song really shows just how much he matured as a character, she feels everyone hates her and everything is entirely her fault. She’s so overwhelmed with guilt and sadness she snaps at him they shouldn’t have met, because she felt he’d blame her too. Despite it really hurt his feelings, he gently reassures her meeting her is the best thing that’s ever happened to him! Like she truly doesn’t understand how much he loves her! He can’t even hold her in his big strong arms and tell her everything will be okay, just be there for her and help her to understand the importance of letting go and his love will burn on forever even after he’s dead. He’s extremely hot and sexy, kind, brave, strong, open minded, free spirited, protective, and ultimately very loving and caring about the woman he loves! Not to mention he was patient with her, not understanding why she was afraid to let him get closer because she was already betrothed to another man. Like he was willing to be just her friend and still protect her people! And ultimately he’s sacrificial, willing to die to protect his loved ones! No joke, Eric and Aladdin have nothing on John Smith. Legit If I Never Knew You is much more impressive than Eric popping a giant octopus, and I personally don’t get why Aladdin is hailed as one of the best Disney princes, given he lies nearly the entire time to Jasmine. I’d rather date someone who was willing to admit they were wrong and learn from their mistakes than someone who kept lying to get me to give them a chance.
@cellytron
@cellytron Жыл бұрын
A lot of it (at least these days) might just be because Mel Gibson, though a good actor and a decent singer, and very likable in this movie, well… he kind of isn’t the greatest person. So there’s probably some overlap there. I’m able to set aside my “ugh Mel Gibson” and acknowledge that he KILLED it in this movie, especially this scene, and I’m 38 years old and still cry when I watch this 🤷‍♀️
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@cellytron somewhat. I don’t think too many people were bothered with him as John Smith at the time, but unfortunately he did say some racist things later on about Jews. I know the historical nerds complained “He doesn’t even sound British.” Despite from what I’ve read, his accent is actually more accurate to how Brits actually talked back then. But the main reason why not a lot of people like the character is unfortunately he’s still based on a man who was just as bad as the rest of the English towards Pocahontas’s people. There’s even widespread rumors he completely lied about her saving his life and he fabricated the entire thing for attention. So it makes having a popular entertainment studio romanticize them pretty cringy and downright offensive for some. If you’ve read even a little of the real Pocahontas’s life, you’d see how terrible the English were towards her. So its really sad to see such an amazing Disney character imo get hated on merely because of his name and unfortunately being a real person. While characters like Hercules don’t get crucified for what happened in their stories, like Hera manipulating Hercules to kill Megara and their children.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@cellytron but yes! Frankly I’ve never really been into “casting” but I found it incredible Mel actually insisted he wanted to sing any songs John had. A lot of Disney movies back then normally had a professional sing for the characters instead of the voice actor themselves. And I found that incredible Gibson actually kinda embraced his character, considering Alan Menken had to rewrite the song to fit his deeper voice. But it really makes this song more wholesome and just makes it that much more irritating and disappointing the song got cut for the dumbest reason, kids getting bored. I really feel if this song stayed a lot a more people would like Pocahontas as a movie more and stop b*tching about historical inaccuracies in a literal cartoon. But ultimately would stop calling John an arrogant racist, but see how much he truly changed and deeply loves and cares about Pocahontas. That he isn’t afraid to die because he got to meet such an incredible woman and her friends, but she helped him become a better person! Anyone who’s stupid enough to say Rolfe is better for Pocahontas clearly never listened to this song or is too immature to understand how deep their love is
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you watched game of thrones but my realization after watching this movie again as an adult is tbh......this fictionalised depiction of john smith kinda draws some similarities to jaime lannister in /some way./ i can even say he got a better send off than jaime did on got lol
@yuesarutobi364
@yuesarutobi364 9 жыл бұрын
😭😭Why did Disney have to kill such a beautiful love to keep true to historical accuracy. Who cares if it is not accurate. They killed a beautiful love story and replaced it with a crappy love story. John Smith's and Pocahontas's love for each other was beautiful and meaningful while John Rolfe's and Pocahontas's love was rushed and none meaningful 😭😭😭
@actingislife100
@actingislife100 9 жыл бұрын
They should have just left it alone if they were gonna do that. I hate how they made Smith seem like a bad boyfriend to make you not feel as bad for her going with Rolfe. Not writing to her? You know that guy would've made plans to sail back as soon as he recovered.
@yuesarutobi364
@yuesarutobi364 9 жыл бұрын
+actingislife100 I agree with you
@MissRiggie
@MissRiggie 9 жыл бұрын
+Yue Sarutobi This is the superior film out of the two when it comes to emotion and a beautiful romance, but being historically accurate is very important. If Disney didn't make the the sequel then this movie would have been a poop-stain on her memory.
@actingislife100
@actingislife100 9 жыл бұрын
MissRiggie I dont think it wouldve been a poop stain on her memory. This movie would be a poop stain if they portrayed Pocahontas as a character that wasnt really her. The original tale, Pocahontas may have never been romantically involved with Smith, but she still cared for him enough to saved his life. So although this movie has them both in love with one another, they still portray her as a strong woman. It shouldnt be a terrible part on her memory because they created a beautiful movie about her character. Yes they changed Pocahontas/Smith's relationship but it isnt an insult to her. But I do understand why being historically accurate is important at time.
@actingislife100
@actingislife100 8 жыл бұрын
+Alysia Williams amen to that. It's a freakin Disney movie. It shouldn't be looked into that seriously. You shouldn't have a big problem with a freakin Disney movie that was probably mostly watched by little kids at the time. I just don't think it should bother you that much. I wouldn't think it would be a sucky part on her memory by making her a strong woman willing to do anything to bring peace to her people and the love of her life, willing to risk her life because she loved smith. That's how I would like to know Pocahontas.
@soberkitty2610
@soberkitty2610 5 жыл бұрын
This movie was my first True Love experience honestly. Seeing John Smith and Pocahontas so in love with their whole hearts, only for it to show that not everything will be a happy ending. I was crying by the end of it seeing both the hope their eyes that they'll see each again someday. And as far as I'm concerned they did and lived happily. No sequel in sight. But I think we all agree on that one.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
In my heart, they eventually did find each other again. Not fair they’re the only couple who got a sad ending. Aim it at a ditz like Snow White or Aurora, considering both didn’t even know their dudes’ names, let alone their princes did all the saving. At least Cinderella spent 4 hours with the prince and got a decent sequel (still don’t like how much the prince’s personality was changed) and at least they fought for their love
@joeandrews7329
@joeandrews7329 Жыл бұрын
@@kristinahuchison2511 Mulan had great animation like Pocahontas. From Joe. X
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
@@joeandrews7329 so did Hunchback of Notre Dame. I really liked Mulan’s animation because it felt it was inspired from traditional Chinese art.
@Joeyblondewolf2
@Joeyblondewolf2 9 жыл бұрын
Omgggggggggg I started bawling! Fuck part 2 and the historical facts! This movie was amazing! In my mind they live happily ever after! ;)
@SunnyDCurlesrainbow545
@SunnyDCurlesrainbow545 9 жыл бұрын
Started bawling!!! Omg!!
@actingislife100
@actingislife100 9 жыл бұрын
Same!! If people got pissed, they should've just left it alone instead of trying to make it more accurate. You made the first one just go with it or leave us wondering if they reunite. I hate how the sequel made Smith seem like such an ass. Never even wrote to Pocahontas? Come on! There is no way he would go that long without talking to her. Don't make him look like that guy!
@yeowool3358
@yeowool3358 8 жыл бұрын
+Valentina Fangirling Wow thanks :) I always hated the second movie, I thought it was sooo stupid. Pocahontas one was much better. And you have a point the second movie wasn't that historically accurate. I hate that they changed that : (
@actingislife100
@actingislife100 8 жыл бұрын
Sooo let me get this straight. Disney makes an incredible movie that isn't entirely historically accurate which makes people upset, only to make an extremely crappy sequel that was even more historically accurate. Way da go Disney
@chiarasim
@chiarasim 8 жыл бұрын
+Valentina Fangirling Nice story, but that is not what happened darling. Check your facts more carefully if you want to explain what happened in historically correct context. I like the movies especially the first one, but they both are inaccurate. John Smith and Pocahontas have never been in a relationship. He was ca. 40 years old and Pocahontas was 12 at the time, that letter is actually written, whilst he saw her in London while she was treated as a civilized savage, not out of romance written but out of remorse. However what is accurate is that scene you speak of :) , John (the expedition leader) was captured when looking for food, because looking for gold was more important than growing crops for those immigrants, which you can also sortof see in the movie. And for the second movie: I don't think John Rolfe the giant monopoly drugdealer, who took 'a special interest' in the hostage Pocahontas for his own good is a good example to make a movie of.
@jonquilgemstone
@jonquilgemstone 2 жыл бұрын
This...this is so beautuful. It gives way more depth to their love than what we saw in the final product, and it teaches a beautiful lesson about love: it is better to love and suffer than to never love at all. There is no regretting true love.
@imarock8763
@imarock8763 7 жыл бұрын
Imo they are the most grown and hottest disney couple..like john was built, and pocahuantus had curves for days.. Theyre hot..its a good thing they aged her up for the film
@Dani-xw7zg
@Dani-xw7zg 5 жыл бұрын
kbaby boo 🤣😂
@Susanajogs
@Susanajogs 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this comment cracking me tf up 😂😂
@widowswail888
@widowswail888 4 жыл бұрын
I mean.. facts.. but like excuse me for loling 😂
@jordanamoon5215
@jordanamoon5215 4 жыл бұрын
Pocahontas body is goals both of them are
@dais1151
@dais1151 4 жыл бұрын
Wrll yeah if it was accurate she was like 12 and he was about 60 so yeah good job 🤦‍♀️😂😂
@raven3067
@raven3067 4 жыл бұрын
I really feel like crying when I listen to this. The chemistry between these two is so cute. Why did the sequel have to ruin things.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
Same! Their love is so beautiful and mature it honestly felt real for a Disney movie. Like Ariel literally fell for Eric purely because he’s a human, that’s basically it. Or even Jasmine ended up marrying someone who lied to her the entire time. But they’re still pretty popular. It really sucks the main reason why Pocahontas and John Smith aren’t more popular is unfortunately they were real people whose friendship definitely wasn’t like the movie. It really sucks especially John himself gets shitted on for being based on a very bad man, instead of how much he did for her people in the movie. Like he jumped in front of a freaking bullet he knew would kill him to save her dad and prevent war, but everyone’s too busy calling him an arrogant jerk. While Meg gets praised for being crushed by a pillar, despite she played Hercules the entire time for her personal gain. But she and Aladdin get free passes because they weren’t real people.
@nathancruz9172
@nathancruz9172 Жыл бұрын
2:38 me too
@LeafInTheWind88
@LeafInTheWind88 Жыл бұрын
I cried like a baby listening to it the other day🥹❤️lol
@SangoNanami
@SangoNanami 9 жыл бұрын
is it just me or does his shirt open up more as the video goes on?
@Mintie365
@Mintie365 8 жыл бұрын
+Sango Nanami not complaining at all aha
@evanrasmussen6572
@evanrasmussen6572 8 жыл бұрын
+Sango Nanami I know mine did
@SplendidOlive68
@SplendidOlive68 8 жыл бұрын
+Evan Rasmussen hahaha 😂
@Mintie365
@Mintie365 8 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of perverts ahahah
@simonariviera1677
@simonariviera1677 8 жыл бұрын
+Sango Nanami hahahahaha this comment made my day xD
@bluepixie2
@bluepixie2 8 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe the second movie exists.
@MajorAlenko
@MajorAlenko 5 жыл бұрын
what second movie?
@bluebay1031
@bluebay1031 5 жыл бұрын
Shhshsh we dont talk about that
@EmmaCRBsnewstuff
@EmmaCRBsnewstuff 5 жыл бұрын
the direct to video sequels don't count imo
@DaniaDraws
@DaniaDraws 5 жыл бұрын
I never thought someone has my same opinion as I do!
@marimc9823
@marimc9823 5 жыл бұрын
Which second movie?! Is not such a thing like a second movie that screw up this romance and my childhood?!? *Goes away and cries, trying to refuse that excited*
@r..1240
@r..1240 4 жыл бұрын
*Lyric:* If I never knew If I never felt this love I would have no inkling of How precious life can be And if I never held you I would never have a clue How at last I'd find in you The missing part of me In this world so full of fear Full of rage and lies I can see the truth so clear In your eyes, so dry your eyes And I'm so grateful to you: I'd have lived my whole life through Lost forever if I never knew you If I never knew you I'd be safe but half as real Never knowing I could feel A love so strong and true I'm so grateful to you I'd have lived my whole life through Lost forever If I never knew you I thought our love would be so beautiful Somehow we'd make the whole world bright I never knew that fear and hate could be so strong All they'd leave us were these wispers in the night But still my heart is saying we were right Oh if I never knew you (There's no moment I regret) If I never felt this love (Since the moment that we met) I would have no inkling of (If our time has gone too fast) How precious life can be... (I've lived at last...) I thought our love would be so beautiful Somehow we'd make the whole world bright I thought our love wuold be so beautiful We'd turn the darkness into light And still my heart is saying we were right We were right And if I never knew you If I never knew you I'd have lived my whole life through Empty as the sky Never knowing why Lost forever If I never knew you
@requiemghost999darkrender3
@requiemghost999darkrender3 4 жыл бұрын
*Hug*
@katarinastanisic799
@katarinastanisic799 3 жыл бұрын
I've stopped counting the times I cried my eyes out to this song and scene
@maeganbyerley
@maeganbyerley 6 жыл бұрын
One of Disney's greatest love songs and they had to go and delete it from the theatrical release
@JustinsDVDandVHSOpenings2015
@JustinsDVDandVHSOpenings2015 5 жыл бұрын
I know, especially since the original theatrical cut transitions seamlessly into the additional footage.
@allisonmarie9070
@allisonmarie9070 4 жыл бұрын
is that what happened? i was watching this on disney plus and was so confused the song didn’t play...
@WNY323
@WNY323 4 жыл бұрын
@@allisonmarie9070 Me too! I rewinded it because I thought I had missed it. Then I was like,"Where's the song?!"
@jswatch9270
@jswatch9270 4 жыл бұрын
@@allisonmarie9070 I wish they could've add that and they should
@koldkutgirl
@koldkutgirl 4 жыл бұрын
alli ; wait this songs cut on disney+? i have it on dvd and its not cut! if it is, thats stupid.
@UnselfishServiceTheater
@UnselfishServiceTheater 8 жыл бұрын
And, of course, the guards are just out there listening to these two sing their hearts out, and are like: "Oh yeah, she's /really/ givin' it to him for killing Kocoum. No doubt."
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
I CAN’T BREATHE 😂😂
@59771006
@59771006 8 жыл бұрын
For those of you who are wondering why this song was cut this is why there was a test screening and when this song played Roy E. Disney and some of the people who worked on the movie noticed that the audience was getting restless it was actually Alan Menken who suggested that it be cut but he was actually hoping that everyone else would talk him out of it.
@adelaide201
@adelaide201 7 жыл бұрын
yeah as awesome as this song is, the movie was already pretty long and had a lot in it
@59771006
@59771006 7 жыл бұрын
+Claire Wood True it's probably the best song from a Disney movie that wasn't actually in the movie.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
@@adelaide201 I though Pocahontas was actually a bit shorter.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Since when do kids actually listen to a song unless it’s visually appealing? This song is literally the most intimate ever made, I mean the fact he isn’t able to hold her just completes this scene as it’s focused on his eyes and especially when he gently touched her head with his, as if to rest in saying how comfortable he is just being with her. I ALWAYS melt whenever it cuts to the part she’s leaning on his chest and his eyes are cut out as if she’s too sad too look into his beautiful blue eyes.
@rosabelflair
@rosabelflair 5 жыл бұрын
This is why no one meets my expectations... Disney movies set high standards for everyone 😪💕
@Rainnyparadise
@Rainnyparadise 4 жыл бұрын
Nazy Disney knows true love exists...and it really does. You will feel this feeling, never settle for ones not meant for you.
@evanlandry7047
@evanlandry7047 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there
@plejaren1
@plejaren1 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too...but I found one- or he found me. Never had I heard such words of love- such a man. They are out there, but you must be the feminine and as loving and romantic as you want a special man to be. and he will come.
@pascalarancibia5199
@pascalarancibia5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@plejaren1 So true love exist?
@VuittonSA
@VuittonSA 2 жыл бұрын
This is why our world doesn't meet mine. It's like my buddy Obito Uchiha once said; "this world is completely worthless. There is nothing left in it but misery.”
@sapphicfemme
@sapphicfemme 9 жыл бұрын
you know you're heartbroken when pocahontas chose the other guy over john in the second movie :'(
@didoaeneas123
@didoaeneas123 Ай бұрын
This tears me up everytime, so beautiful and deeply captures the love and beauty of their relationship.
@gratrunka6479
@gratrunka6479 8 жыл бұрын
Back as a kid, when John Smith continued singing when Pocahontas already left the tent just proved to me that he really loves her. And it still does~
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Um, the scene when she enters he literally is praying for one last chance to tell her how much he loves her, and when she touches him his eyes shone as if she was an angel. When she tells him it would’ve been better if they never met, look at how his smile melts away and his eyes changed, the fact he can’t touch her with his arms/hands makes this scene that much intimate when he says “Pocahontas, look at me….” because he can’t touch her to lift her chin, just hoping she would. Especially the part when she apologizes he gently responds “For what? This??” As he’s just so happy to see her one last time. I ALWAYS melt when the scene cuts to her leaning on his chest and his eyes are cut out as if she’s too sad to look into his beautiful blue eyes. The head touch as well is so beautiful as if he can easily read her mind.
@TShirt4
@TShirt4 10 жыл бұрын
you see, pocahontas 2 was truly special. there are a lot of bad sequels out there. but few sequels are SO bad that they ruin the first movie as well. somehow, it managed to do just that. i think we're all better off just pretending like the second movie never happened.
@swinxfee
@swinxfee 10 жыл бұрын
I'm with ya bro!
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the fact Disney actually has John Smith paired with Pocahontas in the lineup but never bothered to make another sequel to FINALLY give us Pocahontas Smith is completely disgusting and in a way racist. This isn’t even the first time I saw a POC couple where one of them dies, taking away their chance to live happily ever after! And no I don’t go for the “Pocahontas represents you can still be in love with someone even if you can’t be with them, ever” TBH if that was the case John Smith should’ve been killed off instead of this stupid “he lived but never came back” because that is NOT who he is or how he feels
@becca2046
@becca2046 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe it’s been 25 YEARS since this movie came out 😢❤️
@captainjacksparrow9728
@captainjacksparrow9728 Жыл бұрын
I know right? I also can't believe it's been 25 years since this movie came out too
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
Yep! I was only 2 years old when it came out! Pocahontas was always my favorite Disney princess. Its really sad how underrated she and the movie is. More so is how much hate John Smith gets as a Disney character, which sucks when you see how much he changes in the movie. His hate is being largely based on who he was in reality, which is the polar opposite of his Disney persona. Like Aladdin and Phoebus are complete jerks in their original stories and Hercules actually kills Megara in the mythology of Heracles, but for whatever reason they aren’t judged by their original characters, only Disney. Its really sad how this movie hasn’t aged as well because of more people becoming aware of the sad story of Pocahontas. Like if the movie was INSPIRED by her legacy and their names were completely different, I feel a lot more people would be more forgiving and accepting like they are with Hercules. Like, Hercules is just as inaccurate as Pocahontas is when it comes to the source material, especially with Zeus, Hera and Hades, but Hercules isn’t crucified for how graphically inaccurate it is, and neither is Anastasia. So its really sad how Pocahontas gets sh*tted on but not them
@Neat95Freak
@Neat95Freak 8 жыл бұрын
OMGGGG Damn it Disney why draw such BEAUTIFUL characterss! I swear I had a crush on John XD
@kineretcookie4254
@kineretcookie4254 8 жыл бұрын
man crush!
@JayBearr13
@JayBearr13 8 жыл бұрын
+Huda H SAMEEEEEEEEE PLUS I loved Mel Gibsons voice!!
@itty2270
@itty2270 8 жыл бұрын
+Huda H SO SAD THEY DONT DRAW LIKE THIS STYLE ANYMORE TBH
@liongirl1693
@liongirl1693 6 жыл бұрын
I thing everyone did 😂.Like seriously he is SOOOO FUCKING HOOOT!!!And he and Pocahontas make the BEST DISNEY COUPLE EVER!!!There sooo perfect that I want to punch them in the face.Seriously BEST. COUPLE. EVER!
@raesmith2164
@raesmith2164 6 жыл бұрын
Huda H and now they have crappy 3D animations... Fuck Disney...
@amandaarlt4948
@amandaarlt4948 8 жыл бұрын
HE SANG?!?!?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😱😱😱😱
@loudtyper
@loudtyper 8 жыл бұрын
Mel Gibson's voice all the way :-) :-) he should have sung more love songs with this one. So calming and chilling
@amandaarlt4948
@amandaarlt4948 8 жыл бұрын
when i clicked on the video i thought i was just getting the instrumental scene
@Queen_Of_All
@Queen_Of_All 8 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture matches perfectly with your comment XD
@kaarinapolly2293
@kaarinapolly2293 8 жыл бұрын
+QueenOfAll Ikr!!! 😂
@MrsCambers
@MrsCambers 8 жыл бұрын
er yeah he sings earlier in the movie too
@ctornlavan
@ctornlavan 10 жыл бұрын
God bless the animation. the way her eyes trace his face, their foreheads together, his palm kiss before she leaves, UGH SO GOOD!
@cabellero1120
@cabellero1120 Жыл бұрын
This is Beautiful. This song shows the power of Love over prejudice, hatred, bigotry. This movie is 1 of my Favorites.
@alienc
@alienc 8 жыл бұрын
John Smith. Making every human man look plain and mediocre since 1995.
@battleostrich9144
@battleostrich9144 8 жыл бұрын
+Just try and remember the good times... This made me laugh
@janiakapoor8611
@janiakapoor8611 5 жыл бұрын
I will marry the man who sings this with me
@aubreyalvarez7396
@aubreyalvarez7396 5 жыл бұрын
Actually since 1607
@sunshinesophia4924
@sunshinesophia4924 5 жыл бұрын
Heor my house Sarena baby girl boy bedfdn my house Sarena baby girl I love you too baby girl I love xoxoxo
@Piratearicat23
@Piratearicat23 5 жыл бұрын
I literally formed my ideal man based on him, damn.
@noneya85
@noneya85 8 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful song. It's a shame it was cut. It was already such a sad part of the movie, maybe they thought this song would make it TOO sad for the main audience - children. As an adult, I appreciate the deep emotion of this doomed Romeo and Juliet type scene. As a kid though, maybe it would have been too heavy.
@IfyouBelleve
@IfyouBelleve 8 жыл бұрын
Yea like I never realized how tragic there live was. Till I starting reading the comments But overall kids don't even mention this movie as much as others So they should have just left it for the adults lol
@caitlindunbar6697
@caitlindunbar6697 8 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. The movie was already sad enough but with this included, I feel like the 80% of water that I'm made of is gonna just flow out my eyes!!!
@BeckyMesser
@BeckyMesser 8 жыл бұрын
It was cut? I don't remember it being cut...
@AlylovesDP
@AlylovesDP 8 жыл бұрын
They released the song on Disney mania and I didn't even know it was Pocahontas
@LogoMan7777
@LogoMan7777 8 жыл бұрын
They kept the Jon Secada version for the closing credits.
@tonnerreeclair
@tonnerreeclair 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why this movie isn't popular these days I mean the characters are gorgeous! 😍
@coolcooldude1631
@coolcooldude1631 4 жыл бұрын
Tonnerre Fuego racism at its core
@PrincesSakura
@PrincesSakura 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolcooldude1631 nope
@coolcooldude1631
@coolcooldude1631 4 жыл бұрын
Princess Sakura come on the savages song lol
@a.mp.m7340
@a.mp.m7340 4 жыл бұрын
You know why.
@GamingPIPI
@GamingPIPI 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolcooldude1631 that's how the europeans used to think about it that time, dude. Disney was just setting a atmosphere. The idians also sang 'savages'. They're just trying to let you see the movie from the character's perspective. You are the problem why racism protests aren't taken serious by some people.
@theladyprincess
@theladyprincess 4 ай бұрын
i remember seeing this movie as a kid, my dvd had this song inserted along with the scene and it was somehow when i realised at such a young age that i was feeling something towards them that i did Not exactly have towards the other disney couples, hearing john tell her "i'd rather die tomorrow than live a hundred years without knowing you" did something to my brain. rewatched it for the first time as an adult after so many years when i was 20 (despite already having some knowledge about the historical inaccuracies amongst other things) and my god did the feels resurface back, it made me fully think that yep, disney's pocahontas and john smith were the first romance i felt something so intensely for without being aware of it. and here i am, age 26 at present and still thinking fondly about these two and most especially this song just because it heals the inner child in me........
@kagomefan101
@kagomefan101 6 жыл бұрын
How... how could Disney taint such a powerful, passionate love like John Smith and Pocahontas with an utter garbage movie like the sequel? I will never forgive you Disney!!😤
@divinearia1601
@divinearia1601 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. Disney really screwed this up. Since they didn't choose to follow the real story from the beginning and made up a love story between John Smith and Pocahontas, they should have never tried to then start following the real story in the sequel. That inconsistency just totally destroyed the beauty of their original film. True love turned into fake love, and that's very contradictory to the message Disney usually convey. Not sure who decided to do things this way but it was a huge mistake. If they were going to completely butcher the original film like this, they should have just never done a sequel to begin with. It's not like the original film, which was done well and had such beautiful messages, needed a sequel anyway. Personally, I just pretend that horrible sequel never existed. Most Disney sequels are terrible anyhow, yuck.
@hannahskeldon7944
@hannahskeldon7944 5 жыл бұрын
I think they did it was just to satisfy the history nazis.
@emberoniliece3289
@emberoniliece3289 4 жыл бұрын
The same way they did with mulan & the sequel.
@Noriko1988
@Noriko1988 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the sequel(s) was (were) a total load of crap.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
@@emberoniliece3289 um Mulan and Shang actually had to work through their differences, he even sacrificed himself to prevent her from falling to her death with him. And in the end Mushu becoming the dragon of unity nullifies the oaths of the emperor’s daughters, letting them choose who they want to be with, and despite that would’ve never worked in real life it was so cute seeing Ling, Chien Po and Yow getting their girls worth fighting for! Pocahontas and John Smith were ready to die for each other, their love is so powerful and beautiful it stopped a damn war saving countless lives, and the fact he had the choice to let her father be killed instead but didn’t hesitate even for a second just showed how much he loved her, sacrificing his chance to be with her, and him not hesitating is what prevented the bullet from killing him
@lionVODs
@lionVODs 9 жыл бұрын
Whoever decided to cut this from the movie, deserves to get punched in the face. This is an amazing song, and bc of where it would have been in the movie, it made the movie less violent. But then SOMEONE decided "Guys.. This clip is firetruckin boorrrrinnnggg.. Let's remove it :DDDDDD!!!!!!!!!! It isn't like this is actually one of the best disney songs ever or anything." >w
@gracekelley2907
@gracekelley2907 9 жыл бұрын
I second that! Why the hell would they remove this song?!
@PollyLWorld
@PollyLWorld 9 жыл бұрын
I never knew the had cut this part! I had it when i was a kid in VHS and loved this scene! Bunch of idiots cant recognize the importance of this. Agree with you.
@sharaspamacc3822
@sharaspamacc3822 9 жыл бұрын
Is it me or does it remind me a lot of For Good from Wicked I mean it is from the same song writer but I can't help but think they're so similar
@johnnynl
@johnnynl 9 жыл бұрын
Grace Kelley NicholeGames They cut this song out because children in test audiences found this song boring. I agree that it was stupid to cut this number out. It's the main theme throughout the film and It's beautiful as well. I'm glad they restored it back for the 10th anniversary of the film but I still wish this wasn't cut out back in 95. I feel this was meant to be the winner for Best Song not Colors Of The Wind. If I Never Knew You is my favorite out of all the other songs in Pocahontas.
@eunicechang8329
@eunicechang8329 9 жыл бұрын
I like the song. I remember when I saw this scene of the song at the TV in the supermarket when I was 8 or 9 years old. Oh memories...
@joannamorganegg7602
@joannamorganegg7602 2 жыл бұрын
Even with the completely historically inaccuracies of this story, I'm still so in love with this move just for the romantic story. Not historically right, but all on it's own is just so wonderful.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 Жыл бұрын
Same! Legit their love is literally why Pocahontas is my third favorite Disney movie. Its really sad it hasn’t aged as well as the other Renaissance movies because it was still based on a terrifying story of a real Indigenous woman. If Disney had just changed their names and fixed a few racist issues in the story, this would’ve easily been as successful as Disney anticipated. Legit it sucks how much hate John gets as a Disney character BECAUSE he’s still based on such a terrible man who lied about Pocahontas. Like he changed so much in the movie to the point he almost died protecting a man that tried to kill him to start a war. That’s pretty stinking selfless and amazing. All he wanted was to protect Pocahontas and anyone she loves, even if it meant he’d die. But no, too many people complain “He’s a f*cking colonizer that literally called her people savages and tried shooting her” instead of seeing how many times he endangered himself just to hang out with her, and oh course willing to die in Thomas’s place for accidentally killing Pocahontas’s friend. But other reason why I just love their romance is because of the more mature and realistic dynamic. Especially with the sad ending of them letting go of each other, despite he wanted to stay with her and was ok with dying in her land if it meant he could be with her until his dying day. But she wanted him to live more, so he went back ONLY because she asked him to. And the dude even stayed away when he learned of Ratcliffe’s lies to the king so he could protect Pocahontas again, knowing he couldn’t protect her if he went back to her world. Legit John gets so much crap and its so unfair given how much he does for Pocahontas, and people have the nerve to call him a selfish asshole who didn’t actually love Pocahontas, she was just another adventure or summer fling.
@billiemussolini5381
@billiemussolini5381 8 жыл бұрын
"and I'm so grateful to you", this line makes me cry everytime
@vokha3870
@vokha3870 5 жыл бұрын
Mine is "I would have no inkling of, how precious life can be"
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
I think mine is either If I never held you because he can’t hold her, plus I ALWAYS melt at the part she’s leaning on his chest and his eyes are cut out as if she’s too sad to look into his beautiful blue eyes. Or the “There’s no moment I regret since the moment that we met. If our time has gone too fast, I’ve lived at last” As if he’s combating her resinging his first verse “It’s ok. I’m ready to die if it means protecting you. I don’t even want to imagine a life without you in it” I feel the fact he isn’t able to hold her or touch her just completes this entire song because it’s all it the eyes and especially when his head touched hers as if he can read her thoughts, maybe telepathically telling her how much he’ll always love her
@vivian4406
@vivian4406 8 жыл бұрын
can we just forget Pocahontas 2 ever existed 😔
@lieinol123456
@lieinol123456 8 жыл бұрын
Except for where do I go from here that song is fantastic
@denniscoy3468
@denniscoy3468 6 жыл бұрын
Why it not that bad in yes the 1st one is better
@MagicalMusic34
@MagicalMusic34 5 жыл бұрын
What second movie? *wink*
@sS0O0L
@sS0O0L Жыл бұрын
honestly, i am not one of the biggest fans of this movie, although it was part of my childhood, but i gotta say, these two have one of the most tense romantic relationships among the disney couples. The love they share is honestly so intense... I've seen love stories with more tension than this, obviously, but i mean that for disney standards.
@prussiangreen6940
@prussiangreen6940 5 жыл бұрын
The only Disney movie that tackled environment awareness + anti-racism.
@gdesiree29
@gdesiree29 4 жыл бұрын
That's why it's my fav
@phoebeahn8941
@phoebeahn8941 4 жыл бұрын
Mulan got feminism. Thats why Mulan and Pocahontas are my two fav Disney princesses
@musical_lolu4811
@musical_lolu4811 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares what 'issue' they tackled? Jeez.
@luckyvanilla388
@luckyvanilla388 4 жыл бұрын
@@musical_lolu4811 i do
@annabond6278
@annabond6278 4 жыл бұрын
You people have nam racism ohhh how many Times you must say racism People are sick of this propagand
@shiroinohime
@shiroinohime 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone notice that Pocahontas says the same words when they bid farewell in the ending scene? This mature love completely touches my heart.
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. That’s what makes it that so heartbreaking. He literally says “What pain? I’ve had worse pain than this, can’t think of any right now.” Indicating he has NOT experienced the worst pain yet: saying goodbye. The fact she used his own words on him just completely broke his heart, and when their hands are separated he even closed his eyes because he was too sad to watch her disappear, I bet he was actually crying off screen before he felt the colors of the wind hit him. I will admit when he waved anna, I would’ve KILLED to hear a faint “anna” whisper to her, as a reference to when he prevented her from completing the motion “I like hello better”
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