Pocket Heavies, the Panzer II Ausf. J | Cursed by Design

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Today we look at a tank that has largely been forgotten from the pages of German armor from WW2. Although small this little machine boasted armor as thick as the Soviet KV heavy tanks coupled with a tiny 20mm armament. Join me and lets learn about the Panzer II J/VK 16.01.
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[@ConeOfArc]

Head to keeps.com/coneofarc to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment.

[@jamesedwardzerrudo4522]

ConeOfArc its interesting to see a F-89 Scorpion Cursed by design

[@DirtyHairy1]

lol is your demographic really that specific ;)

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

I have hair.

[@jwenting]

Keeps, as useful and reliable as a Pz.IIJ.

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

You've fallen low to promote shi... hair growth fraud shampoo or whatever that never works.

[@ShortHax]

World of Tanks players: “Do you want to lose 20k silver every match in a premium tank that costs 100 euros? Well, look no further, its the PZ II J”

[@Shaun_Jones]

Well, they had to at least pretend it was balanced, so they gave it the worst gun in the game at that time. It’s still second worst, but they added a semiautomatic AT rifle to the Pz.II and forgot about the magazine, so it’s a single shot 20mm with a one and a half second reload. The DPM is 520

[@sparrow9990]

The war thunder rank 4 or 5 us heavy experience

[@TheRedneckBudha]

Also world of tanks players every christmas: shut up and take my money

[@warhawk4494]

Too true lol

[@razor1uk610]

@@TheRedneckBudha ..queue Quagmire throwing a stack of $20 bills at Meg - while repating that last part of the sentence.....

[@mathiasbartl903]

Completely OP until Germany could no longer afford the gold ammo.

[@OverFlowWater]

They can still use their wallets

[@jamescruz8678]

I remember these being sold in bundles on WoT:Blitz for $11 CAD. Now that the "realistic battle" mode is a thing, I wonder how well they'll perform now...

[@humzaakhtar9208]

Im just about to buy one with T15 (already have T15 but sold it) and panzer 2 J for £3.50 and I'm excited

[@chrishamilton2559]

@@humzaakhtar9208 good luck with that

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

Only tanks above tier V can get into Alternate Modes.

[@alan6832]

A small tank with thick armor seems like a good idea to me since their light overall weight should enable them to cross light bridges, soft ground, and be transported quickly by light trucks and trains. But the thing to sacrifice seems to me should be crew, with no room for loaders and with it, reduced rate of fire. Such tanks would have to obtain viable rates of fire by operating in groups and using collective rates of fire to fight opponents containing 5 men per tank, you pit against such a tank, 3 light heavies containing a total of 6 men. The engines and ammo supplies might have to be small too, since the area of armor needed to surround large engines and ammo supplies would weigh down the tank.

[@tacomas9602]

I might still have it on my acc lol

[@johnathansaegal3156]

The Panzer II (all variants) has been my favorite tank of all time... I even looked into the company that builds exact replicas (minus a working 20mm cannon/mg)... and I am so tempted to buy one of these tiny little beasts. (EDIT: and by "always". I mean since I was a kid in the 70s)

[@duncanp1987]

What company?

[@faltomjager5823]

Yes please what company

[@baronobeefdipyes5181]

Replica you say?

[@alexdunphy3716]

You can't leave a comment like that and just not tell us what company makes replica panzers for people to buy!!!

[@brokenursa9986]

I’m just gonna leave this comment here in case you respond to the other guys.

[@loucyphers_nightmare]

I have the PzII J, at one point it was a seal clubber but over the years power creep has made it less so, there are tanks in the game that can easily pen her with gold rounds, but, when you do get into a game where you're top tier it can be a real blast. Sometimes you can get through a game firing regular ammo and you don't lose money but if you have to resort to using gold it can be expensive. But funny thing about my PzII J, is I've gotten 3 Raider medals with her

[@derrickstorm6976]

Wow, a camper Pz 2 J sealclubberscum

[@jamesedwardzerrudo4522]

Dat Russian snail

[@CharChar2121]

Premium ammo? Shit, I thought War Thunder was a cash-grab.

[@loucyphers_nightmare]

@@derrickstorm6976: I've never camped in my PzII J

[@BobSmith-zj7sp]

Had a game back in 2018 in World of Tanks Blitz were I got hit 125 times, 101 times were non damage while the 24 where hits. Did 955 damage with 2nd Class mastery badge but loss 41k credits. Like you mentioned it’s fun before but it got power creeped and isn’t the glory seal clubbed people used to know.

[@CZ350tuner]

Pretty much a German Matilda I, except with a 20mm. autocannon, instead of a Vickers 0.50" HMG. Just about as much use, too.

[@kimjanek646]

Except that the 20mm cannon could knock out pretty much any light armored vehicle 🤔

[@Xenomorthian]

@@kimjanek646 depending on your definition of a light armoured vehicle is standard m2 50 cals can too

[@Bialy_1]

@@Xenomorthian From close range and if the vehicle showing you the right side and is not angled (you forgot to add)... btw. The British .50 Vickers (12.7×81mm) is not the same as better known American .50 BMG (12.7×99mm). Armour Piercing: Penetration: 70 per cent., 18mm. Armour Plate at 100 yards. Semi-Armour Piercing: Penetration: 70 per cent., 15 mm. Armour Plate at 100 yards. So good luck with .50 Vickers and Puma armored car especialy the one with 50mm... 🤣

[@kentlindal5422]

So, PKW II: built to assault the Magineu Line, E 100: built to *be* the Magineu Line, that a fair summary?

[@rookiemistakes3258]

I like describing the E-100 as **The defensive line**, it's funny to me. The E-100 is one of my favorites

[@Elderrion]

Could you do some more minor nations? I understand Germany, the USSR and the USA get more attention, but Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Sweden and Belgium have some... Interesting design choices as well

[@Ironpine27]

I think material on such designs is scarce, not to mention what little data could be found, will most likely not be translated.

[@aregulargenericname8794]

Sweden has alot of interesting tanks that if im correct aren't in any game and barely in any media

[@canton7180]

most of those countries are covered to be fair because Germany took their most sucessful designs and adopted them as their own, notice they never adopted anything the Italians made lol, for example Poland 's most prolific tank was the 7TP which was based on the British Vickers MK.e which bare many similarities to the Russain t-26 with exception of the christie suspension, the French had a defensive juggernaut in the Char B and Renault FT but it had no effective offense, Czechoslovakia had probably the best early design in the Skoda, it was the base for many variants used by the Germans in the LT vz. 35 from the Czeks and LT vz. 38 Sweden notice this is early war only

[@noahhuls]

@@aregulargenericname8794 you should check out war thunder

[@zzaronn]

You forget france, french have their own way that only them can understand

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

These things were fucking monsters in WoT.

[@i8yourDog]

@@type10mbt29 war thunder had panzer 2 j's?

[@Kuba_K]

@@type10mbt29 they dont exist in war thunder xD

[@zarlev9083]

The normal pz2 are annoying enough comparebly in WT, so we got that equaled )))

[@dirtydan2721]

@@type10mbt29 I easily kill 3.0 vehicles with my 1.3 panzer II C. You can take out shermans if you hit them on their sides. The trick with a tank this size is to never stop moving, you have faster acceleration and as long as you hold the forward key down most tanks struggle to chase you or even hit a shot on your tiny tank when you're moving. I've bounced several large shots just by them not being able to line up their guns properly on a small target.

[@mangofanta2667]

Could you do a cursed by design on the BT-42 and other finish BT tanks

[@nitsu2947]

**SAKIJARVEN POLKA EUROBEAT REMIX INTENSIFIES**

[@alkestos]

But they were not cursed. They did what was asked of them.

[@flexprime2010]

I doubt it, BT-42 is blessed* by design. They can destroy at least 3 pershing each! :p

[@alkestos]

@@nitsu2947 Säkkijärven Polkka

[@alkestos]

Also it's Finnish, not finish :P

[@Torbert_]

I misread the title as Panzer III... i got exited thinking you made a video about me

[@alexmoon3844]

Don't worry. It will happen eventually.

[@gonkdroid8589]

Yes

[@smile-sc9zx]

you'll get there eventually

[@kasugaryuichi9767]

You're not cursed though

[@alexanderortega7559]

Strv in the swedish tank industry means sridsvagen

[@CMDRFandragon]

Panzer Is and IIs are adorable, same with the M3 Stuart.

[@theerdem4698]

Those driver ports would make this thing unpenable in warthunder

[@yeetissheetsfoot60]

True

[@ToshioThunder]

"I want you to up-armor the Pz.II. Why? Because it's adorable!"

[@Macrochenia]

I did notice one minor mistake you made in this video: right at the beginning you refer to the Panzer II J's "feline ancestors" when I'm pretty sure you meant to say "feline descendants."

[@MarkhorSculpin]

Thank you; now I don't have to point it out myself. (It's at 0:17.)

[@leyvawilly]

Offspring not ancestors since the panzer IIs came before the bigger cats. Still a great video.

[@JosipRadnik1]

I remember seeing that Tank on display in Belgrade back when I was a youngster. I was confused to read "Pzkw II" on the plate, for all pictures I had seen of Pzkw II's showed some markedly different wheel configuration. Also that rounded escape hatch at the side with its interrupted mudguards looked so awkward that I assumed the partisans must have cobbled some frankentank together from parts of different tank wrecks. Little did I know that the germans actually built their version of the Mathilda I

[@brackjackson1894]

Totally enjoy all of your contests and videos. Keep up the great work 👍

[@dairydregone7146]

I remember owning this tank in World of Tanks. (I didn't buy it, just got for free for some reason).

[@mh1ultramarine]

it used to be a preorder or early adopter reward kinda thing

[@dairydregone7146]

@@mh1ultramarine oh yeah! Now I remembered... But still not too sure

[@clayman71497]

They gave it away for free Playstation players who had ps+ as well

[@Macrochenia]

@@clayman71497 I appreciated the free garage slot.

[@grant9939]

And another time for free

[@HeinzGuderian_]

Imagine how awful WoT would be if historical accuracy was instituted. From constant breakdowns to being one-shotted, most vehicles would be unplayable.

[@user-xu6zu5ym8u]

@removethatpfp usubhhumanssackoffshiitbbittcchh and make it worse by 100x by adding "historical accuracy"

[@Cx10110100]

People play War thunder and find the realism fun

[@HeinzGuderian_]

@@Cx10110100 I've played it. At no point was my tank penned by a shot and game over. They took several pens just like WoT and killed after health eroded.

[@Cx10110100]

Lucky you 😅@@HeinzGuderian_

[@samizeddini6653]

@@HeinzGuderian_definitely all you bud, that shit happens all the time to anyone who plays a decent amount

[@carlorrman8769]

Always so well researched. Thought I knew my shit. Ww2 history is my thing, built two pzkfw 2's in 1/35 scale. Feel a bit of a tool because I've never heard of this. Good on you, mate. Be great to see more of these lesser known ones.

[@lorenzopollocaffe6277]

Really happy to see you get sponsors and views in the hundred of thousands, came to this channel back when you were barely getting 1000 to 10000 views

[@cleanerben9636]

I remember a battle where it was just me and another Pz.II J left at the end of the match. It was a draw. I did land on top of him though for 10 damage.

[@edwardphillips8460]

When I was playing I remember a similar battle. It was down to me and another player. Both in the Pz.II J. We bobbed weaved went round and round for the last 5 minutes of the battle at brawling range. The major problem was neither of us could do anything more than lightly scratch the paint. It ended the battle with a draw. Under the circumstances that was the only possible result.

[@markandrews8437]

I like the L version of this little tank the Luchs I have built a few models of this never get tired of it excellent video thanks for sharing 👍

[@TheMoon-mc9nk]

One of the best series ever. Please don't stop until you run out of content!

[@worldconqueror2206]

I see they got the perfect Krupp steel viewports as the armor, these bad boys will tank any gun in the world

[@kampfgruppepeiper501]

Another great upload man, thank you 🙏

[@lajoseles7986]

Köszönöm hogy vannak végre Magyar feliratok !! Nagyon szuperek a videók!!!

[@Juansolous]

Very interesting to learn about this damn thing, keep up the great work.

[@safetyharborfirearms]

Had never heard of that model - good info

[@planescaped]

I'm amazed there's still hair loss snake oil in this day and age.

[@alkestos]

It's different from the grow back snake oil

[@johanmetreus1268]

When the snake oil has been clinically tested and approved, is it still snake oil?

[@onepuffman]

​@@johanmetreus1268 Yes, it just means the snake oil salesmen was always right after all.

[@Cormano980]

And this guy promotes it on his channel 😂

[@angelogarcia2189]

Do the Luchs. I like that little guy.

[@Oliver-uk3tc]

This was the first premium tank I got on my PlayStation, what is the same tank you see in the game play, this was for a long time my favourite tank and to see you do a video about it is great to see.

[@zombieraptor9wot312]

I always enjoy your videos.

[@SebastiaanKr]

Vind het een schattig tankje . Best mooi kwa uiterlijk.

[@JoeyWebber955]

Used to love playing a platoon of PZ1C with a full gold loadout a few years ago .

[@svenw688]

Awesome! I believe there also has been a sturmpanzer II .. one is still standing somewhere in Romania i think.

[@papaainsl3705]

Panzer II autocannon goe Brrrrr .

[@TheDonutMan3000]

Ever since badger made a video on this tank I can’t unsee the sceptical face it makes lmao

[@joshuadoll9000]

6:29 was there a mention of two other vehicles before the quote you put up? Because that only adds up to 20 vehicles, not 22. With the extra 8 delivered in 1941 that only adds up to 28 vehicles, not 30.

[@MisterOcclusion]

I guess the vision blocks, road wheels, armour layout, and tracks could lend some visual comparison to the Tiger....

[@jaxsullivan2117]

Wierd how you posted this when I was watching the h. You did. I love these tanks. There my favorite.

[@blueduck9409]

Thats a pretty neat vehicle. Im sure it would have gained fame if it were kept only in a role it was designed for.

[@lucidnonsense942]

It had a gun that was useless against fortifications so pointless in assault role. It was too slow and heavy for recce, so useless in that role. Guess it looked nice on parade. It's just another symptom of German bloat, where contracts were given based on party connections, not some strategic goals.

[@Drunken_Master]

That VK 18.01 at 10:40 is at the display in Belgrade Military Museum.

[@PatriotPaul759]

Thanks for the video.

[@wolfsoldner9029]

I guess it would have been a good vehicle for naval landing operations.

[@aaronhuang580]

Mini Maus!

[@Charliee_Woofy_Pz]

I cannot unsee that tank's skeptical looking boat face.

[@Swellington_]

It's a good looking tank

[@FirstDagger]

0:19 I think you meant to say feline descendants.

[@mikepette4422]

like that new intro much better than the old one

[@sinclair2469]

This thing has 80mm frontal armour, to put that into perspective the tiger 1 has 100mm frontal armour. So it has good armour. Germany uses the 20mm cannon for anti-infrantry purposes, i'm sure it was never inted for anti fortifcations or anti-tank. It was intended for recon and anti-personel, but yes it failed with that

[@stevesandford7442]

From memory, the one you referred to as a recovery vehicle was a Ladungstrager,, The boob carried a demolition charge that was remotely dropped from inside the vehicle.

[@jfobel2204]

YES. THE MINI BRICK!

[@flame1998]

I love the name pocket heavies it makes me happy

[@ComradoftheWest]

Plz do a video about the SU-100y

[@rajanilotti3359]

can u make a vid on any vk series of german medium or heavy tanks??

[@zombiemarine2754]

I argue that the Panzer I should be added to more games as it’s a fascinating tank. It was adequate enough to perform certain tasks and in my mind I reckon it should at least earn itself a Reserve spot in WT as it is similar to the Panzer II although I do admit it wouldn’t be completely useful due to lack of weapon penetration capabilities

[@Fnaffan_-tc2so]

I once had an interesting Match with as Panzer2J in WoTBlitz were I blocked 5K Damage from pretty much the entire Enemy Team and i think some even ran out of ammo in that round

[@andrewmencer916]

Wasn't there panzer too with the 75 in it long barrel or was it a 50 mm long barrel

[@TexanLumberjack.]

You really should look at getting a War Thunder sponsor. Much more realism, and an ability to use its in depth armor analysis, Xray, and protection analysis features. Itd surely help you improve on these already amazing videos!

[@majordegurechaff5436]

He was a CC for War Thunder until the game developers for War Thunder became so bad he just pretty much stop playing War Thunder and make much War Thunder content anymore. So I don't think he will work with people that is neglecting their own player base. However, it doesn't mean Wargaming is any better.

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

Me: This reminded me of the "baby tiger" from your previous vid- Me upon watching: oh it is. . . Stupid me. How could i forget that?

[@joshuaa.5523]

In WOT, I've killed almost the whole enemy team with this thing when I matched as the top tier vehicle!

[@markmulder9845]

A tank that can be described as a seal clubbers wet dream. Me: You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

[@SgtZak_]

Power creep has since eliminated the OP nature of the 2 J inside WOT. Ty for the video.

[@johnsatan117]

I came up against the Pz2 j in WoT once. I fired multiple rounds, but couldn't pierce it. I was using the either the T28 or the Su76, but can't remember which one.

[@Howardhandupme]

I love seal clubbing in this tank

[@wangl601]

Wow, 2 driver's viewports as upf, this thing is stronger than tiger!

[@od1452]

I never studied these tanks but wondered why they came about. On another note.... Is there a little micro country with one or two tanks in service ?

[@senatorarmstrong524]

I mean it looked cool then… it went down hill from there.

[@ryerial7723]

Cone..Cone I have an idea…Panzer II J Plushie

[@mc.walrus9364]

3 hours the earliest i have ever been i ur vid

[@pachikwasaway6879]

could you do the Japanese type 5 ke-ho or the italian p.43?

[@markholmphotography]

Need to look into Panzer II “Luchs”

[@Nightdare]

6:55 "Consult the book of armaments"

[@LanzoL.]

Please do a video about the VK 36.01(H) baby tiger 1

[@1nm1]

Some of the video segments appear to be taken from what I assume is an online tank game, which game is it?

[@ArxInvicta]

The guy in the beginning casually chilling in front of a machine gun barrel, laying on the front of a moving tank that could not stop if he falls down because the driver wouldn't see it. People were made out of different stuff back in the days.

[@zacherymooney]

I just finished using that in ear thunder just because I saw it in old footage

[@jamesalexander7747]

It was called "small tiger " due to the frontal armour, which was the same thickness as a tiger, not weapon carring or fighting capabilities. Basically a well amoured lead element or recon, but with emphasis on crew survivability.

[@redneckjuggalo1776]

You need to do one on the Ratta

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I feel like an MK 108 with HE frag shells for infantry support would have been a more useful armament or maybe if a 5 cm version of the PAW could have been made.

[@sushiknith1851]

can you do the german flammpanzer II flamingo / pzKpfw II(F)?

[@domco07akagrassknuckless89]

I just noticed this, but in the begining you said that the PZ. I and II were overlooked by their feline ancerstors. Its not a big mistake just one that you cant unsee/ unhear once you notice it.

[@DH-co6dj]

the panzer luchs was probably where the baby tiger name could originate.

[@tamakaze712]

L3/35 variants more like pockets and mobile training target right?

[@irontricky14]

I love your videos and I was wondering if you could do a cursed by design for the Object 297 e

[@szymonchlebicki4606]

You mean the object 726, the 279e from WoT is actually called the 726, dont ask me why i dont work for wargaming

[@The_Ninedalorian]

Not only is ConOfArc a spokesman for KEEPS he's a Client

[@jeffrandall4046]

Fun tank to seal club in, but yeah, very expensive to run….60k credits per battle.

[@deennice6035]

What game is that in the background?

[@gunslingerluckytankijunky]

You don't shoot things in the panzer 2J - you ram things.

[@DedMan28]

"Sealclubber's wet dream". Looks legit... XD

[@razor1uk610]

I'd say 'Baby Tiger' is a post-war nickname at earliest, if not from a model making company's box art, then from early postal-subscription or early-internet scuttlebutt, or even from WoT (Wargaming) or WT (Gaijin) games's own YT/Twitch community content creators.

[@Lance-Urbanian-MNB]

A truly harry episode. Sad that there is no real combat performance statistic there. More that there is only very little vehicle data given. Would have been interesting how it was operated. Sights. Lookouts. Ammo types. And so fort.

[@godzillamon2]

This tank side view looks like something out of sprocket

[@ciuyr2510]

CoA: ....with only a 20mm cannon, it was all but useless agai...... Gaijin: Aham, not in WT xD

[@Otokichi786]

2:07 Ad ends and the Panzer II tale begins.

[@Farkmetal]

how is this different from the luchs?

[@lonelyslug]

when i first encounter the Pz II J in WoT, i was panicking cause i have no idea how to pen that thing