Solid State Logic SSL2+ USB Audio Interface Review / Explained (Differences between SSL 2 & SSL 2+)

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@JavierMercedes
@JavierMercedes 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing review as always. I hope people don't get the "4k" confused as a "hit this and get crystal clear 3840 x 2160 4k Ultra High Definition signal."
@MrmelodyUs
@MrmelodyUs 4 жыл бұрын
hah
@maul9815
@maul9815 4 жыл бұрын
For sure they will :facepalm:
@ET2carbon
@ET2carbon 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it is a problem with marketing. Remember everything had an i(something)? Remember everything had HD on the label? I don't know what 4K here means but you have to remember this would be a prosumer product where not everyone cares about science
@walterwilliams1323
@walterwilliams1323 4 жыл бұрын
@@ET2carbon 4K refers to SSL 4 thousand series serious mixers back in the day (the '70's) hence 4K.
@psychoticblackout6982
@psychoticblackout6982 3 жыл бұрын
I saw someone saying in a review, we all have used HD and HD+. SSL has come up with 4K. and i'm sure he meant better clear quality by that. lmao. I did leave the comment there telling him what it means.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын
That 4K analogue sounds nice on the SM7B. I was skeptical, but I stand corrected.
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday 4 жыл бұрын
I have a raw audio clip with the Sennheiser MKH416 if you want to check it out. Feel free to DM me on Twitter. I sent it to him when I got mine last month, haha.
@bigtb1717
@bigtb1717 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Normally when somebody "EQ's" an SM7B I find myself simply preferring the standard sound. I think I just really like the flat sound of the SM7B. But the 4K mode on this interface seems to work surprisingly well with the SM7B.
@mrdone5942
@mrdone5942 4 жыл бұрын
I used the 4K on the RE20 also. Sounds great. Put away my cloudlifter.
@gabrielraphaelofficial
@gabrielraphaelofficial 3 жыл бұрын
its the 9K you want, SSL9000 series is the one with good mic pres not the 4000 series which I think where standard amek, if you want that the SSL 6 and audiant interfaces have better versions of the Amek or 4K sound, the 4K on the SSL box is just a sim like version..the real deal can handle very hot signals and sound far better.
@mikehunt576
@mikehunt576 3 жыл бұрын
Ssl4000 had the worse pres, its the 9k we want
@VaseLu
@VaseLu Жыл бұрын
Hey Bandrew, just wanted to say I bought the SSL based on this video, like 2 years ago, and it's been absolutely fantastic! As you point out, the signal you get is very clean and I've recommended it to a number of people since. The usb/input mix knob is also very handy. So, if anyone's looking to buy this thing, it's still well worth the money.
@Podcastage
@Podcastage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the update ,I love hearing these long term updates good or bad. but I'm thrilled to hear it's been working well for you. Hope you get years more use out of it. Happy recording.
@naizondj
@naizondj 10 ай бұрын
Sold by rme for this one!😂
@moorhertz829
@moorhertz829 4 жыл бұрын
I bought mine last week, I cannot believe how good it sounds. It’s worth it’s price alone as just a DA converter for listen to music. Seriously, I’ve heard numerous high end interfaces and this equals them in terms of sound quality, no doubt about it.
@AI-Consultant
@AI-Consultant 3 жыл бұрын
" just a DA converter for listen to music" what do you mean here, what would you play?
@moorhertz829
@moorhertz829 3 жыл бұрын
@@AI-Consultant I use it for recording, but it’s also great for listening to music through from my computer 🙂
@Legendgamer100
@Legendgamer100 4 жыл бұрын
the "audio gets loud" count down was very beneficial to the quality of the video. Thanks man
@TheMillersBibleStudy
@TheMillersBibleStudy 3 жыл бұрын
I do a radio program and have used many of the interfaces and microphones over the years. I now use the SSL 2 with a Shure sm7b. I've used the Shure sm7b for years. You are right about the 4K switch I love the sound of my Shure sm7b with it on, it is a great combination. Thanks for your reviews, you do a great job.
@edwarddsullivan
@edwarddsullivan 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered one to use with my SM7B. I was having 2nd thoughts until I watched your video. Thanks for putting my mind at ease. I can't wait to press that 4K button.
@dragonballbeatz7714
@dragonballbeatz7714 4 жыл бұрын
Ed Sullivan I was thinking both
@A7mad.
@A7mad. 6 ай бұрын
hello, can I use +48v and 4k together with sm7b
@ChrisWoodcox
@ChrisWoodcox Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video in June of 2023. As I'm about to pick up one of these interfaces for about $170. Very well delivered, thorough and informative. A tip of the hat to you sir. Thanks for the info.
@MadmanAcrossTheWater
@MadmanAcrossTheWater 4 жыл бұрын
This completely sold me. I bought before the video even ended!
@NickAlbie
@NickAlbie 4 жыл бұрын
My Focusrite audio interface shut down after 12 years. I loved that you did a test with SM7B since that is my main microphone for vocal recording, made me order a SSL2+! All love - subscribed! 💙
@LukeIzaak
@LukeIzaak 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I stumbled across this review after doing a bunch of research on this unit. reviewers everywhere can learn a lot from you sir. Thank you for the time, effort and detail you put into this. I'm sold. Keep up the good work!
@youngselfofficial893
@youngselfofficial893 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using one for a little while, and it runs laps around my previous gen1 Scarlett. The pre amp quality is amazing, the DI guitars sounded terrible and were extremely noisy, but now I can actually use amp sims... and the 4k option is usable in a lot of scenarios, the headphone outputs are clean and much louder (where my Scarlett gen1 was always at almost maximum, this one stays between 1 - 3 with my ash m40x). Knobs are much better, the meters are 1000x better than the halos. USB/input monitoring is a godsend, individual phantom power is also very appreciated. I always held off upgrading because a lot of people say that pre amps and interfaces are 1% of the sound, but goddamn that old ass Scarlett needed to go.
@BrentOkuley
@BrentOkuley 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, so sick when you had all the tracks together. Great tone and playing.
@jeroddunn
@jeroddunn 4 жыл бұрын
The vocal strip and drum strip plugins as an add are also amazing.
@CommonCommenter
@CommonCommenter 3 жыл бұрын
Liked for the loud audio warnings. Much love man! Many thanks! 👏🏻👏🏻
@kyron42
@kyron42 4 жыл бұрын
How about do a shoot out between SSL 2 motu M2 and ID14
@nirom1ronoc
@nirom1ronoc 4 жыл бұрын
Kyron yes please!!!
@uwebaganz5144
@uwebaganz5144 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@jemarmitchell5555
@jemarmitchell5555 4 жыл бұрын
Looking out for it, please
@luapmartin
@luapmartin 4 жыл бұрын
Same, interested also into this information
@heavymetalmixer91
@heavymetalmixer91 4 жыл бұрын
Bison voice: YES! YES!
@chrisbraddock9167
@chrisbraddock9167 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. My SSL2 is going to be here Tuesday and Ironically I picked up an NT1 that will be here Monday. You demonstrated precisely what I can expect when they arrive. Sounds clean and nearly noiseless.
@chuckjuice1317
@chuckjuice1317 4 жыл бұрын
Had mine (2+) for two weeks now, and LOVE IT. Plays nice with my other SSL gear.
@foxproduction4554
@foxproduction4554 4 жыл бұрын
oh man today i bought ssl2 it amazing!!! iv got audient id4 and i cant compare them ssl2 is so clean so (radio ready sounding) cant believe...regards and thanks for your great videos...
@Hugmir
@Hugmir 4 жыл бұрын
Did you not hesitate between SSL and MOTU M2/M4? I'm having that problem right now, also being an ID4 user.
@foxproduction4554
@foxproduction4554 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hugmir dont know how motu sounds, didnt have a chance to try it...but ssl2 is really good...regards
@foxproduction4554
@foxproduction4554 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hugmir didnt try motu but ssl2 is great...
@techmed-rainer
@techmed-rainer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curiously waiting for getting my SSL 2+ delivered next week. Thank you so much for your constant work to keep us informed 😊
@mallorga1965
@mallorga1965 4 жыл бұрын
That thing sounds sweet! And what a good combination it makes with the NT-1.
@walterwilliams1323
@walterwilliams1323 4 жыл бұрын
NT-1 has never sounded better, they are a great Studio package from Aussie boys Rode.
@micahcottrell3488
@micahcottrell3488 4 жыл бұрын
I love this thing I'm so excited there is an interface that's by an industry standard company, but that doesn't make me go bankrupt! I am definitely upgrading from my Steinberg UR22 MKII even though that is a great interface and it has served me well for years. Super excited for this guy.
@tonylancer7367
@tonylancer7367 4 жыл бұрын
I hear the DSP on the MKii is amazing. Is that true?
@triplebeam23
@triplebeam23 4 жыл бұрын
You literally have the worst interface right now... anything will be a upgrade from what you have now
@a1d5
@a1d5 2 жыл бұрын
Have one with an sm7b. Music producer and I engineer for people as well as myself, Pretty great for my set up and style over all. The one thing everyone complaining about... I have mine routed into a usb3 port with led power switches, so no power switch needed on the unit ;)
@micajones1483
@micajones1483 2 жыл бұрын
Love this interface. Just got the 2plus in yesterday. Plan to track drums all day today...
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday 4 жыл бұрын
I love mine, think it sounds great, and is super easy to work with. I wish it wasn't so big, and that the buttons were a bitt nicer, but I'm okay with that if they freed up funds to emphasize preamp quality. An extra headphone jack in the front would be nice, for sure.
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
I was so jealous when you got yours weeks ago. I’m super stoked you’re liking it though. I sleep a bit easier knowing you’re connecting your monitors properly because the daisy chain method you described before gave me heart palpitations. 🤮
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday 4 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage 🤣🤣
@alainjean2974
@alainjean2974 4 жыл бұрын
Out of all companies who make audio gear knobs & buttons, the only ones I like are the SSL, Toft or Trident.
@Artemie093
@Artemie093 3 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage L
@bille77
@bille77 3 жыл бұрын
You can't tell the difference to a Focusrite Scarlett. I'm sorry.
@MoghulVeyron
@MoghulVeyron 4 жыл бұрын
That 4K switch sounds beautiful!
@JimGramze
@JimGramze 4 жыл бұрын
The current offer of four of their native plugins on perpetual license along with the interface makes it an absolute no brainer for me. Great review, by the way.
@LightningSpiritVA
@LightningSpiritVA 3 жыл бұрын
No lie I am soooo happy I got this interface definitely an upgrade for my set up definitely give my AT4040 more power for voice acting and listening it through my headphones definitely hear audio very nicely love the power through this puppy
@arkaxvii4699
@arkaxvii4699 3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, I’m going to buy a SSL2 tomorrow because of this review.
@MahDryBread
@MahDryBread 4 жыл бұрын
I just got this for my Shure SM7B, thanks man!
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
Heck yes! I can't wait to hear what you think!
@MahDryBread
@MahDryBread 4 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage I've been fiddling with it for the last few hours. It's a big upgrade over how I sounded with my old mixer, that's for sure!
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
That’s so great to hear man!
@dr.b.3179
@dr.b.3179 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna buy a SM7B and the SSL2+ as well. Do you need a cloudlifter or feathed to increase the gain or not required with the SSL2+????
@demon-ll9eg
@demon-ll9eg 4 жыл бұрын
@@MahDryBread can u record 16bit 48000 with it ?
@augustleo7434
@augustleo7434 3 жыл бұрын
The SSL2+ sounds fantastic. Mine is on the way and I can't wait to start using it. Thank you!!!
@isaacyork3854
@isaacyork3854 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. All reviews should follow this format. Time stamps are great too!
@noelcalizo1724
@noelcalizo1724 4 жыл бұрын
OMG!! Finally a reviewer I can actually listen to and i'm glad the SSL2+ brought us together!! I already pre ordered the thing!
@QuieroMiCacao
@QuieroMiCacao 4 жыл бұрын
Did you get the SSL2+ already? Thinking of purchasing it.
@andrewpeters2775
@andrewpeters2775 4 жыл бұрын
As a voice over guy I use my SSL-2 for Source Connect sessions with a vintage C414eb P48, it sounds great. The reason I use it for these sessions is because I have SC Pro on my laptop and SC Standard on my studio PC. My daily gear is an OC818 into a Neve 1073 and NTG5 into a Grace M101, but the sound of the SSL-2 is so good it could replace everything in my studio.
@damolin77
@damolin77 4 жыл бұрын
I like the longer videos feel like I got more detail about the product and make it easier whether I should buy it or not
@thegraceandpaulpottscast9462
@thegraceandpaulpottscast9462 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very detailed review! It left me with no questions left at all!
@xfireFXMotionDesign
@xfireFXMotionDesign 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought one for my RE20 an damn, that sounds so goddamn sick with the 4K feature and the Yellowtec VIP1. Thanks for reviewing it!
@R1PPA-C
@R1PPA-C 2 жыл бұрын
As I need a second interface whilst on the road, my upgrade from a very dated gina 3d interface is definitely decided on the ssl2+.... Thanks man 🙏🏻
@melodychest9020
@melodychest9020 4 жыл бұрын
The best part is @15:40 !!! I kept hitting it again and again! Wow, that alone is worth this video!
@sasuke1243
@sasuke1243 4 жыл бұрын
I just got this as my first professional voice over setup, I really like how simple it is to use, and set up. though I'm not so sure why there is hiss in my audio. further learning is required. u.u
@pvalenti
@pvalenti 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the SSL 2 and couldn't be happier with my purchase. The preamps have a little character and I like that. I've gotten mixed reactions from peers but I personally like the sound, and afterall it is MY ears that will be doing the listening and my brain doing the mixing. I am a bit upset however that I chose to buy my LDC based on Sweetwater's suggestion that I would need a Cloudlifter if I purchased the SM7B and due to the gain range of the preamps of THIS unit (I had a Presonus Audiobox USB before) I could've been completely happy with the SM7B. But I wound up with a Warm Audio WA47jr and it has a similarly dark sound. So it's all good...saved a $100 too. I'm not too upset I guess! lol
@ricardoprieto6401
@ricardoprieto6401 3 жыл бұрын
The mic preamps on the SSL2 are astonishingly amazing! Just did an A/B comparison with the new Audient ID14 MK2 and there is no comparison. The SSL 2+ sounds clearer and beefier and more in your face. Just a totally different tone and character. It also has a more powerful preamp at 62DB VS 58DB on the ID14. The SSL also has a slight bit less noise floor. I had to crank the gain all the way up on the ID14 with my SM7B and still didn’t sound loud enough than at 9 o’clock with the SSL. The SSL also uses Neutrik mic connectors VS Amphenol in the ID14. Not to mention the RCA and Midi connections which the ID14 doesn’t have. You also don’t need the iD mixer software and It’s also cheaper in price. Needless to say, highly disappointed in the new iD14. I wanted to like it and thought Audient would be good since everyone speaks so highly of the preamps which is why I got it but I can’t justify keeping it. The SSL has spoiled me.
@Rammbock
@Rammbock 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I'm literally about to get either an SSL 2+ or ID14 Mk2. Mainly doing voice (with SM 58 and 7b), but also some guitar. In many comparative reviews, the ID14 is praised bc of the preamps and *lower* noise floor than the SSL2+. You seem to have a different impression - so which one has a higher sound floor? I'm a beginner, could you perhaps tell me what the differences between the two will mean for me in real life? Also, will I absolutely need the ADAT if I want to record to my recorder or connect a mixer at some later stage? And overall, what would you say is the main pro of the Audient? A few words would be highly appreciated, thanks a lot!
@renetstjacques1761
@renetstjacques1761 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You " Podcastage " , for your informative and music talent !! - Merci " Podcastage " , pour votre talent informatif et musical !!
@RobKristjansson
@RobKristjansson 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great two person podcast interface, too
@walterwilliams1323
@walterwilliams1323 4 жыл бұрын
Totally podcasting is one of its target markets apart from VO Pros.
@taylorbickford6682
@taylorbickford6682 4 жыл бұрын
4K switch enabled + mid presence boost option on SM7B.. can’t wait to try!!
@maxbarter7524
@maxbarter7524 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing review, so clear and concise, and extremely thorough. Glad I stumbled upon your channel
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much max, really appreciate it!
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed you’re very intentional about your audience , I love that. You obviously have some expensive professional gear in your studio but for the target of this channel you consistently discuss budget friendly, bang for buck , beginner - pro consumer level gear. Awesome work. . . . Still gonna need a full review on your high end studio gear ! UA 610 mkii I noticed?? And that Neve looking device?! And that tape real looking thing ! Please :)
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
Tim. Thank you very much for the kind words. That really means the world to me. I love the high end stuff, but it's very rarely exciting to me because you buy it and almost always know it's going to work and sound great. With budget stuff, you'll stumble across a lot of trash, but then you'll find an amazing diamond in the rough. And absolutely I'll have the LA610, WA73EQ, BAE1073, Neve 1073LB, API 512c, Arturia 8 Pre, U Audio X8 and UA Twin X...That's just the outboard gear. The mics I have coming up are going to be insane but I have to mix in the affordable stuff as well. Thank you again Tim! Appreciate ya very much.
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 4 жыл бұрын
Podcastage wow!! More thumbs up from me, can’t wait to see your channel grow , it will and you deserve it, the high end series is gonna be awesome it’s hard to find good reviews like yours with any gear. And I love the diamond in the rough concept ..it’s a competitive market indeed. Best pre owned gems?? Could be a series/playlist down the road. With Your channel content and style of delivery + how thorough your reviews ....endless content ! 🙏🏽
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Aka TAllent oh I have a series planned for out of production items. Have a bunch of them already lined up. I just need to find the right time to record and release them. I have some coooool ones. Like the original Rode NT1, the American SM7, the SM5B, a bunch of the predecessors to the blue snowball. I’m so excited to eventually do them.
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 4 жыл бұрын
Podcastage can’t wait!!! Thanks for sharing that info
@babydreamsy
@babydreamsy 4 жыл бұрын
6:28 Don't exactly know what a "mirophone" is, but it sounds interesting...
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
You must be uncultured. It’s a phone based on the paintings of Miro: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Miró 😏a
@randallburghart4282
@randallburghart4282 4 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage nerdy painter reference win
@adamspeaking373
@adamspeaking373 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Was waiting for this review! Thank you. (Pff..don't ever apologize for long reviews.) THANK YOU SO MUCH for telling me what you thought about the PREAMPS vs the MOTU m2/m4, but in the end that matters to me more than an ON/OFF button, or loopback functionality.
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
The on/off. loopback. meters. all selling points for the Motu.
@adamspeaking373
@adamspeaking373 4 жыл бұрын
@@Podcastage Definitely, but I'll take the preamps of the SLL2. Thanks again.
@dmtphone
@dmtphone 4 жыл бұрын
I have purchased one of these and am very excited for it to arrive. I will admit I am frightened by the headphone output impedance being so high. It is high enough that I expect it will cause some frequency response issues undesirable for monitoring on more sensitive headphones. Great review as always!
@hfranke07
@hfranke07 4 жыл бұрын
I luv this device.... SSL are the masters of preamps and with a small formfactor like this, it is getting just better for a small speakbooth..... I like the fact, that the front has no plugs.... make the desk look cleaner. Personal pref..... great review.
@CommonCommenter
@CommonCommenter 3 жыл бұрын
Watching him to sad face in 2x speed was amazing. 😂 (I do not generally speed through your videos, but this time it was worth it. Also, I only sped through the pros and cons lists.)
@itskane1791
@itskane1791 4 жыл бұрын
So I record rap at a studio near by. Great quality. I asked my engineer what he felt about home recording cuz I'm a skeptic. I feel like my home will never sound as good as a big studio. Then he suggested the SSL2 as well as the Sm7b because of my aggressive style and to my surprise this video shows BOTH. So I'm kinda sold on it. Lol i would definitely get the cloudlifter though lol subscribed
@Hugmir
@Hugmir 4 жыл бұрын
You might really not need the cloudlifter with this interface, though - especially if you're more on the aggressive side and not whispering quietly at your mic (and SM7B really wouldn't be the mic to go to for whispering, I think). The notion that pushing your gain to the limit introduces additional noise seems to have been debunked a while ago (at least when it comes to most devices).
@natehaiden
@natehaiden 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I've been so lost and wanted something with a great preamp and great A/D that is not as pricey as a UA apollo so, given SSL's street cred, I'm sold on this one, thank you for reviewing it :)
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. You're going to love it.
@dadrobit700
@dadrobit700 4 жыл бұрын
I generally really don't give much credit to on-board "features" and "fx" that seem to never amount to anything more than cheesy gimmicks, but that 4K did absolutely work on the SM7B. The bass as well really took advantage of it letting the high end come through. (Though from a practical view, I'm not sure if the bass upper frequencies wouldn't just get lost/cut in a complete mix anyways. Save it for the solo I suppose :D)
@tsservices1552
@tsservices1552 3 жыл бұрын
This video was VERY well done, I appreciate the quality and detail!
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine the silenced glee felt in the engineer when a high up person asked "why not make 10 the loudest?"
@MrDylanMitchell
@MrDylanMitchell 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see quality amps that can drive dynamic without needing a Cloudlifter or Fethead. SSL2 is great opton for voice same amps less money and uneeded features.
@bigtb1717
@bigtb1717 4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a cool interface. I can't say most of the features would benefit me personally, because I've never had the knack for music (you sure seem to have it). But it seems to have some stellar pre-amps and the price isn't bad, considering the features and quality. Great job.
@drowdrw4770
@drowdrw4770 4 жыл бұрын
best review ssl2 on KZbin. thank you !
@FrankTheTankA1
@FrankTheTankA1 4 жыл бұрын
That 4K sounded good on the U87 and the 7b
@peterblackmore7560
@peterblackmore7560 3 жыл бұрын
I know that this may seem a bit stupid. I want a DAC to provide clean conversion of my computer music and test tracks, which is mostly CDs as wav files. Part of this need is for music testing of installed sound systems (have the full NTi-audio test system including Talkbox for the basics). On my desktop, it would be also great to use this and have one big monitor knob rather than holding an up or down volume buttons (which always seem to overshoot a tad). The dual monitoring enables me to switch between monitor speakers and headphones without plugging/unplugging. Even better, because all the inputs and outputs are at the REAR of the unit, I won't have these cables cluttering my desk! Bonus, I have two Sennheiser MKH 416 P48s, so the switchable phantom will simplify recording, when I want to do that. Your review is excellent, detailed and methodical - Illuminati with OCD? Well done.
@hugoclubs9676
@hugoclubs9676 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great reviews and love your ending punching in the face :) BUT... I really don't understand why you seem to highly recommend the SSL2+ over the Motu M-series. Your arguments are: - the preamps of 62dB gain range agains MOTU's 60 dB gain range - SMALL DIFFERENCE - EIN of -130.5 VS -129.5 - VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE - Analog 4K switch which is a gimmick and something that can easily be reproduced with plug-ins or doesn't matter at all - AD / DA converters which, based on plenty of reviews don't look that different quality wise in both interfaces (I actually see more people advocating that MOTU converters are MUCH better than SSL's ones) On the other hand, MOTU wins regarding : - Dynamic range outputs (120dB VS 112dB) - Round trip latency (SSL performs really bad when compared to MOTU - based on gearslutz.com tests and testimonies) - Dynamic Range Mic Input (115.5 dB(A) MOTU VS 110.7 dB(A) SSL) - BIG DIFFERENCE - Mic Input impedance (3kOhm VS 1.2 kOhm SSL) - HUGE DIFFERENCE Honestly, what I see here is that SSL surpasses "SLIGHTLY" the MOTU in some aspects, but the MOTU crushes the SSL regarding other features. That's why I really don't understand your conclusion. Would you care to go deeper in your analysis please? I am currently struggling between this 2 interfaces and every single opinion of someone that owns both devices would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
@frankymino8773
@frankymino8773 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hugo. Not here to justify any interface but during my research the MOTU has a lot of stability issues. Mainly due to it's drivers if your on PC. Some MOTU's have even been returned due to the led screen not working at all from new. Others have reported dropouts in audio.... again probably due to drivers. Just some food for thought if you're deciding on an interface. I would have liked the MOTU though not convinced from owners. I have placed an order on the SSL 2+ as I am attracted by not only it's pre's but also it's AD converters. Tests reveal they are miles ahead of other interfaces in it's class. Though at the end of the day, you can't go wrong with most interfaces in this price range. Just not the M-Audio. Those pre's have a noise floor that goes through the roof.
@AudioSpaceGeek
@AudioSpaceGeek 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankymino8773 You hit on exactly why I have zero interest in MOTU gear. Far too many bad experiences with them over the past twenty years. When they work, they're usually pretty great. When they don't, trying to get them functional is like having a root canal while sitting on a red hot spike while Britney Spears sings in your ear without autotune.
@hugoclubs9676
@hugoclubs9676 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts. Thank you :)
@MatteoPauselli
@MatteoPauselli 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! Was looking for a good audio interface to improve the sound on my KZbin covers. I think I have found the right one. You've got a new sub :)
@ELEVATETHESKY
@ELEVATETHESKY 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I just got my SSL2. I love it so far. I use an SM7B and agree that the 4k brings that mic to life. I think it is all you need if you work alone or want to make simple vocal, bass, or guitar recordings. I compared it while mixing with the Apollo Twin MKII and honestly didn't notice much of a difference at all given that the AD/DA specs are quite a bit better on the Apollo. So in other words, I think the SSL2/SSL2+ has a good enough AD/DA to mix with as well as make high quality recordings.
@Cdssonyx5
@Cdssonyx5 4 жыл бұрын
do you think it's worth gettin over the Apollo mk2.
@ELEVATETHESKY
@ELEVATETHESKY 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cdssonyx5 Hmmm that all depends. SSL2 or 2+: If you like a more modern clean sound with clarity and already have great VSTS to mix with. Also way less expensive Apollo Twin: If you like a warmer sound right out of the gate and love to print your effects right away and also if you like UAD effects. Both do well with AD/DA conversion and sound great for recording or mixing. The Apollo specs with better converter numbers But i honestly didn't notice really any difference when mixing. But as stated up above...when recording, the Apollo is warmer and the SSL2 is more clean. The advantage of clean is you can still make it warm with saturation, compression, or EQ. So what you print is always clean and ready for your sculpting. the advantage of warm is if that is exactly the sound you are going for. You can always EQ it to sound more hifi. i did notice that with the SSL2 I don't really have to low cut my vocals. I use an SM7B and leave it flat. Other mics may vary.
@ELEVATETHESKY
@ELEVATETHESKY 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cdssonyx5 If you decide to go with the Apollo mk2 I have one that is in perfect condition with a lot of extra UAD plugins. I haven't put it up on ebay yet. i'll probably put it up in a week,
@Cdssonyx5
@Cdssonyx5 4 жыл бұрын
@@ELEVATETHESKY oh ok my email is cdsso@live.com. how is the latency between the two I have thunderbolt 2 iMac
@ELEVATETHESKY
@ELEVATETHESKY 4 жыл бұрын
Both do really well but I only track one thing at a time. If I remember correctly both do 1.1 milliseconds. However , the apollo does that while using plugins at the same time in the recording process with unison technology. But so far I haven’t had any latency issues with either. I always use low latency mode in whatever DAW I use.
@avalanwa
@avalanwa 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Love his dry sense of humor!
@metooblueshoes
@metooblueshoes 4 жыл бұрын
Omg dude I hit the like button and subscribed when you threw that box 🤣. I don't know who you are but, I'm now rocking with you on gear reviews. Nice to meet you
@erJonhy
@erJonhy 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man! You doing this very well!! 🙌🏻
@whiskeyweekly7533
@whiskeyweekly7533 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, who actually dislikes an awesome video like this.
@prodigalus
@prodigalus 3 жыл бұрын
count em, 57 *_LOSERS._*
@KaidoLP
@KaidoLP 4 жыл бұрын
Still debating with my self if I want to get this, the Motu M4 or the Scarlett 2i4
@keyboyrecords
@keyboyrecords 4 жыл бұрын
M4 of course. Why would you settle for only 2 inputs?
@KaidoLP
@KaidoLP 4 жыл бұрын
@@keyboyrecords I only need XLR inputs
@kairos_sou-nd
@kairos_sou-nd 4 жыл бұрын
MOTU headphone can only hear either 1/2 or 3/4 at once, not both at the same time. SSL doesn't have loopback. 2i4 got both function.
@MixingGBP
@MixingGBP 4 жыл бұрын
If they all meet your I/O needs, I'd probably go for the SSL due to the reputation of SSL alone. If you done like it, I'd probably go with the Focusrite. I have the 2i4 and made many songs on it. No real complaints about it other than the noisy pres and that it can't support an SM7B mic.
@KaidoLP
@KaidoLP 4 жыл бұрын
@@kairos_sou-nd but the 2i4 only got 2 inputs, how can you listen to input 3 and 4?
@nicolasstrawberry4148
@nicolasstrawberry4148 4 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest benefits the SSL 2+ has over the Motu M4 right now is that you can actually buy one, I’ve had an M4 on back order for almost 2 months, I’m about to cancel my order and buy the SSL lol
@wearashirt
@wearashirt 2 жыл бұрын
genuinely here for the review. But the monitor button selector is available on the behringer 1820
@eyesWitcher
@eyesWitcher 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. It helped me a lot to buy a SSL2+. 😍
@LitOfPrince
@LitOfPrince 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you as always. I think you can compare the sound of preamps of different audio interfaces, think people will love it.(or I)
@Deamonition
@Deamonition 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a really detailed and excellent review. Answered all my questions and concerns. Thanks a lot for that.
@wadewilliams1892
@wadewilliams1892 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video - there had not been many videos showing what people want to see - a range of industry pro mics and its output sound and capabilities - although you get paid for views - I’d like to say thanks 😁
@iMajeala
@iMajeala 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting weeks for you to post this one man! I run an Apollo twin at home but have been debating on a new work interface.
@solo-manwright3189
@solo-manwright3189 4 жыл бұрын
same man. Have you made your decision???'
@RabihSaadguitars
@RabihSaadguitars 4 жыл бұрын
Actualy the SSL 2 and the SSL2+ got killer converters..Kinda on par with the Motu M2 and M4..Those 2 compagnies dropped the bomb on the 1k Interfaces..
@Talanya
@Talanya 4 жыл бұрын
I’m swear your content never cease to amaze me. I purposely looked this interface review up, just to know more about the how well it works with the sm7b. And of course you pop up! ANND WITH an example with the sm7b. I freakin love you, you make the experience of setting up my home studio easier. no longer am buying a booster.. 🤗😅 And again amazing talent you have!
@tiburd7
@tiburd7 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds fantastic! Thanks for the great review!
@baranyiproduction
@baranyiproduction 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, I just bought the item. The rear headphones inputs are disturbing me as well, you plug in and out at each recording. You did not miss any details. Keep on posting.
@autoazure
@autoazure 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video despite the exceedingly annoying use of high rising terminal speak!
@BlenKingzly
@BlenKingzly 4 жыл бұрын
impressive for lower level prosumer use, seriously thinking abt grabbing one now, great review, btw.
@brianjones3584
@brianjones3584 4 жыл бұрын
I love mine! It’s a great sounding unit I hope they make a 8 channel version later for my drum kit 👍🏼
@rickguerre
@rickguerre 4 жыл бұрын
i hope they think of this, an 8 channel version would be amazing
@demon-ll9eg
@demon-ll9eg 4 жыл бұрын
does the sound diffrent from unit to unit?
@AGsosa
@AGsosa Жыл бұрын
and they just did recently!
@AGsosa
@AGsosa Жыл бұрын
@@rickguerre its here now
@mamanpapa4632
@mamanpapa4632 4 жыл бұрын
thanx for the review I managed to buy the ssl 2+,nNow I'sure It s yhe right interface I need in my home studio!
@demon-ll9eg
@demon-ll9eg 4 жыл бұрын
same
@this_smitty23
@this_smitty23 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still torn between the SSL2+ and the MOTU M4! Anyone with thoughts outside my own? 😂🤷🏻‍♂️ **Update** I decided to go with the Motu M4. It's hard to beat the features at that price point. While the SSL2+ i'm sure is amazing, it has some design choices that won't work for me. One simple yet major one is having the headphone inputs in the back of the unit. I don't think you could go wrong with either of these interfaces.
@michelevisser6811
@michelevisser6811 4 жыл бұрын
good choice!
@RogerSartet007
@RogerSartet007 4 жыл бұрын
And? I'm curious about your experience because I'm facing the same decision: Motu M2/4 or SSL2+? I use a Mac with Logic and Cubase and tons of VST's (Arturia and Native Instruments, mainly). I read about some stability issues, hence my question. Thank you in advance for sharing your findings.
@RogerSartet007
@RogerSartet007 4 жыл бұрын
@God Loves You I ordered neither of them actually. I'm in Belgium and apparently the Motu is kind of hard to get hold of for the moment (out of stock in most European online stores). I reviewed my options and decided to spend a little more and went for the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd Gen. The people from Thomann, Germany (which is a very reliable store) drew me over the line actually. We had a phone call and they assured me that if the Focusrite doesn't meet my expectations, I can swap it for the Motu, when it's back in stock. This sounded like a fair deal to me and so now I'm impatiently waiting for it to arrive... .:-) Cheers, Gert
@TheArpage
@TheArpage 4 жыл бұрын
@@RogerSartet007 You were aiming for a 4in/4out device but let yourself get talked into a 16in/16out device?? How the fuck?🤷
@runnningonempty
@runnningonempty 3 жыл бұрын
happy owner here.GREAT VID AS USUAL
@RoncaBaixo
@RoncaBaixo 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the 1st time I see this dude not hating on a audio product.
@statostheman
@statostheman 2 жыл бұрын
The problem that PCM is not active all the time. I had make an working around. But after all that 4k button with my neumann ksm 105 black made my recordings sounded nicer. The detail it gives sounded natural and even I mix on it is much easier to mix.
@ethantrexler6169
@ethantrexler6169 3 жыл бұрын
Love your review, and your guitar ditty!
@HenJayMusic
@HenJayMusic 4 жыл бұрын
OMG 😍 I didn't realize that the SSL+2 has a Mono button on it too 😍. How loud are the headphone 🎧 jacks 🤔? I noticed he didn't have the 1st jack turned up 😂🤣
@Marian_Milos
@Marian_Milos 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! The 4K button is worth all the money and makes this interface sound like a beast. I mention that for two weeks I have SSL2 + and it sounds better compared to Audient ID22 that I have been using for 4 years. Let's see how SSL2 + behaves over time !!!
@coachkodymusic
@coachkodymusic 4 жыл бұрын
I currently have an Audient id4..would this be a significant upgrade as far as preamp? Thank you
@Marian_Milos
@Marian_Milos 4 жыл бұрын
coach kody Hello! Definitely worth the jump to SSL2 +
@RsqSqr
@RsqSqr 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the ssl 2+, Would you recommend over id14 m2 / motu m4? Help me I m torn. I need quality.
@Marian_Milos
@Marian_Milos 2 жыл бұрын
@@RsqSqr ID is over Motu and SSL is over both
@RsqSqr
@RsqSqr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marian_Milos thx for clearing up my mind.
@discountmuzakinc.7637
@discountmuzakinc.7637 4 жыл бұрын
Best reviews on youTube! Bad attitude a bonus.
@drutgat2
@drutgat2 3 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you.
@alexmarianoribeiro
@alexmarianoribeiro 3 жыл бұрын
Looking Forward to hear my Blue Baby Botton using 4K legacy. Next week I'll buy one. I don't know if 2 or 2+. They are exactly the same about specs but I will decide which connections are needed for my Home Studio. What a doubt
@jimvandersteege
@jimvandersteege 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed when you threw that box to narnia 😂
@jordanlmcgrath
@jordanlmcgrath Жыл бұрын
I would love it, if you would find the time to review the SSL 12 thank you.
@18CC
@18CC 4 жыл бұрын
SSL 2+ is the best product with 2 instrument inputs and 2 headphone outputs. And these other features. I prefer the SSL 2 because I dont need 2 outputs. I would have bought an Audient interface but the Evo8 isnt on the market. I could have bought an Apogee One but I didn't find anyone using the Apogee One with Windows 10. So I was thinking maybe it will not work well. I am using a Daw (FL Studio) and I want record an electric guitar and a mic.
@Bojitoooo
@Bojitoooo 3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit that I'm really seduced by this SSL2+. Seems to be very qualitative in terms of build and sound. I was surprised that the fact that the interface didn't have a Mute button and/or a Mono switch didn't come in the Cons section. For mixing, it is a bummer. The other thing I'm really disappointed about is that we can't switch between Headphone output and Monitor output. For mixing application, this is unproductive since we have to dial between the twos all the time. If SSL added these options, they would have the best audio interface at this price range ! I'm still gonna try it since it sounds super amazing and very faithfull to whatever's plugged in. Thanks for the review !
@BEATYVISIONCLOTHING
@BEATYVISIONCLOTHING 4 жыл бұрын
This was a really well thought out/put together interface....I wouldn't expect anything less from SSL tho!!!
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