PoE Complete Lore Series: Siege of the Atlas - The Tangle, Cleansing Fire

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Siege of the Atlas means "they" have finally arrived, greater forces from the cosmos sending mortal champions to stake their claim on our Atlas and, eventually, Wraeclast itself. But there are some heavy implications in the lore that "they" have been here before...
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@Ryan-sn3uo
@Ryan-sn3uo 2 жыл бұрын
While we exiles are normally known to be ignorant of the lore, I still wanna thank you for sharing these lore tidbits with the community and driving discussion.
@robertfleischman5762
@robertfleischman5762 2 жыл бұрын
can we talk ablut how in the searing exarch ball phase the maven is like "i will extengish them all" then destroys like 3 balls
@blvcksvn
@blvcksvn 2 жыл бұрын
Exarch literally says "you do not have the strength, hatchling"
@marioruiz9493
@marioruiz9493 2 жыл бұрын
15:35 The templar calls innocence "his lord of light" after we ressurrect him. "I knew that you would find the path of righteousness once more, my Lord of Light. I shall be honored to fight by your side!"
@felixryker5056
@felixryker5056 2 жыл бұрын
How? Don't the player character voice lines end in act 4? Did they add new ones?
@marioruiz9493
@marioruiz9493 2 жыл бұрын
@@felixryker5056 they added "act 5 to 10" voice lines to the templar and the duelist in the last couple of patches
@Zookay
@Zookay 2 жыл бұрын
Wohoo, finally another episode of this series :D
@Pshaurk
@Pshaurk 2 жыл бұрын
In POE2, the narrator talks about corruption that started 3000 years ago. Perhaps this refers to events that involve the celestial beings and the birth of innocence and sin. Interesting also that innocence wants to go to the south and sin mentions of asking for forgiveness in the ice at the bottom of the world. In a later dialogue, innocence says he will remain in the south - a place of ice and ash ( possible link to the ring that covers enemy in ash vs frost? - it also happens to be called 'polaric' devastation)
@blvcksvn
@blvcksvn 2 жыл бұрын
Expedition's End is the reference to Innocence's journey
@Pshaurk
@Pshaurk 2 жыл бұрын
​@@blvcksvn Interesting. I am curious as to where it fits in the timeline. Its clearly hinting the the location being special - hope we get to visit it in poe2!
@SimbaXp
@SimbaXp 2 жыл бұрын
I think the zana arc to destroy the atlas(if that ever happens) will be a way to revamp the entire endgame systems for poe 2 as said on exilecon that they want to scale down the scope of the story and make the player more human than god-like again.
@CJ00014
@CJ00014 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for that. We don't need Nephalem 2.0
@ianregan37
@ianregan37 Жыл бұрын
I think you're likely on the right track, especially since Chris Wilson is a fan of Magic the Gathering. I could see him taking inspiration from The Great Mending storyline that was used to scale down the god-like powers of Planeswalkers in that game's lore.
@farris101313
@farris101313 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that adds to the idea that the Eldritch Champions are definitely somehow tied to Wraeclast is The Black Star shares a few similarities with Solaris and Lunaris. I do think Innocence and Sin are connected in some way, as Sin and The Beast have parallels with the Entities and how they were put to "Sleep" The Envoys line, "The veil of constancy drew all beneath its shadow into a steady sleep bereft of the petty squabbles that hemmed the time before time." Clearly implies that the Entities clashed before time existed and either The Lightkeeper or Progenitor or both sealed the Entities away.
@Kevin-jv7mz
@Kevin-jv7mz 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to have someone analyze and collate the lore throughout the leagues. Like, GGG puts in more effort than they need to, to make the lore that they do, and it's hard as a pleb to sometimes make sense of all these disparate lore nuggets. Really appreciate your work because it helps me appreciate PoE's/GGG's more.
@EvilWeiRamirez
@EvilWeiRamirez 2 жыл бұрын
I'm finally interested in playing Poe again because of ashes of the stars, and here comes kcn with more Poe lore. These are the good old days.
@XeroVersus
@XeroVersus 2 жыл бұрын
You've mentioned that you've never heard of Innocence being called The Lord of Light, but look at Templar's quotes that GGG added in 3.16. First level up to 15: "Your trust is the only reward I need, my Lord of Light." Added in 3.16: Encounter with Brine King: "Lord of Light, hold back the sea, so that I may slay its pretender king!" Entering Canals, before fighting with A10 Kitava: "I knew that you would find the path of righteousness once more, my Lord of Light. I shall be honoured to fight by your side!" Defeating Innocence or falling to A5 Kitava, can't remember: "Has my faith truly been a lie? My God, an impostor, too weak to defeat the Ravenous One..." Maybe one of possible events could be that first Templar mistaken Innocence to something else...
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I even have all the Templar new dialogue and didn’t check it! Good catch. I guess that reinforces that Maxarius is talking about Innocence there.
@vulpix0r
@vulpix0r 2 жыл бұрын
The Templar lines that shows him slowly doubting his faith and restoring it is so gooooood.
@angel38618
@angel38618 2 жыл бұрын
Wowowowoowow wow wow Wait Innocence and sin aren't around anymore What if????? Hmmmmm
@riendutout5190
@riendutout5190 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SchwingyGaming
@SchwingyGaming 2 жыл бұрын
"So fun" :) love it
@Discipol
@Discipol 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I love Kitten Cat Noodle's vids!!!!!
@deatherage9458
@deatherage9458 2 жыл бұрын
Now that we know that the atlas can be fought for by eldritch beings vying for control, it is possible to suggest that the Tangle and Cleansing Flame did try to fight the Decay for it in the past before the elder was imprisioned, and just their mere conflict had rippling effects on to Wraeclast. Dawnbreaker's bigger surprise to me is it suggests that the atlas was active and being explored at that time where previously I didn't think the templar did anything with the atlas until Venarius. If people were exploring the atlas for a very long time then it may be that each of the 'gods' we fight could have been like Sirus, having attained godlike power with a projection they merged with. It may not be that the searing exarch based itself off of Innocence but rather the other way around and that Innocence attained his godhood using items retrieved from beings related to the Searing Flame.
@SupahMerror
@SupahMerror 2 жыл бұрын
The kirac dialogue that talks about sirus and the female exile that killed him is the Sirus option when talking to kirac
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
Weird. I beat Sirus and it still didn’t show up for me. Glad it’s in the game, I was just running out of time to make the vid. Thanks!
@blvcksvn
@blvcksvn 2 жыл бұрын
@@KittenCatNoodle you have to talk to him in the epilogue town, it's hidden behind another dialogue first
@parheliaa
@parheliaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@blvcksvn If you play a male character, is the exile changed to male, or simply there is no this dialogue?
@jejxkxk
@jejxkxk 9 ай бұрын
I actually think that The Envoy is much more than he pretends to be. He knows too much, and his story doesn’t add up. He’s hiding something, and I suspect he is more than he appears to be. Perhaps, he is a being above both the Progenitor and the Lightkeeper.
@TheFlyingMage
@TheFlyingMage Жыл бұрын
If Zana will get what she wants and block the atlas, we'll have to farm A10 endlessly. Can't let it happen.
@Necrark
@Necrark 2 жыл бұрын
Sin symbol: downward means toward humanity Innocence's symbol : upward means godhood Searing exarch : eldritchhood He could be their father since they were born gods and did not reach godhood through their lives. But it still makes me wonder, as any wreaclast god ever gone into the atlas? Is human-god-eldritch the only way to ascend? After all we kill kitava (god) and became maven's champion (eldritch). If not for the progenitor's champion, the envoy, we would have killed her.
@angel38618
@angel38618 2 жыл бұрын
God damn Finally dude
@matthewdimalanta1700
@matthewdimalanta1700 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I subscribed to you before it was even halfway through.
@lilyofdesire
@lilyofdesire 2 ай бұрын
"... and why did Zana leave me?" asking the real questions
@Minhar
@Minhar 2 жыл бұрын
How are you even still sane, exiles?
@TheTerspet
@TheTerspet Жыл бұрын
hue hue hue, listening to this the first time playing sanctum know that the first high templar was innocence himself :D that was kinda funny because most of my lore comes of you
@blankspace2185
@blankspace2185 2 жыл бұрын
Yoo let's go! Kinda hard to pay attention to lore in-game so ty for this!
@somi0mms
@somi0mms 2 жыл бұрын
envoy says he takes the shape most pleasing to the ones who must listen and yet doesn't look like Zana. curious...
@StrangeMachines1
@StrangeMachines1 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. That's ma boi Noodle
@janmachala6511
@janmachala6511 2 жыл бұрын
What if searing exarch = mother of two? What happened to her anyway? (Where / Who is she?)
@loganharvey8086
@loganharvey8086 2 жыл бұрын
Can I go play the boat adventure instead of mapping for my next endgame?
@nerd4tw
@nerd4tw 2 жыл бұрын
Awwww sheeeet, yesssssssss
@Dharengo
@Dharengo Жыл бұрын
One thing I don't quite get. From what I understand, the Atlas was created by... Valdo? Was his name? He used the map device to create it, in order to imprison the Elder. So where did these other entities gain entry from, and where were they before? Were they in a similar place as the elder?
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle Жыл бұрын
The elder is the originator of the atlas! His dreamlands are the “nexus” that shaper (Valdo) eventually took over. The atlas itself is kind of a place, but also more of a map or entry point into memories or recreations of places? What Valdo created was the cosmic arcana which was more of a bauble to contain the Elder
@gonzavera
@gonzavera 2 жыл бұрын
I missed this so much. Thanks Noods.
@melksilent283
@melksilent283 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the Searing Exarch can have children, cuz he is hot
@copperlocke
@copperlocke 2 жыл бұрын
I just ran across your channel 3 days ago, and binged all your prior lore vids. Thanks for this one!
@bcr_light
@bcr_light 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@yaythereal
@yaythereal 2 жыл бұрын
The templar calls innocence his lord of light
@Ciapciaq
@Ciapciaq 2 жыл бұрын
When the gears started moving, She left the stage. Someday, She will reveal her true face, or She will turn into another brain-washed-person by corrupting power of the atlas.
@ProfWollhoven
@ProfWollhoven 2 жыл бұрын
They are not exactly what I had in my mind when I posted the following in the forum but I like them :D "Since they are coming and I'm totally hyped who they actually might be, I have some ideas of them just to prevent a GOT2.0 where they're are coming for 7 leagues and than arrive and get killed within 1 day. I'll also refer to THEM as a race of Others. We already got the Elder (Codename: Devourer) and the Maven (Codename: Child). So the thing is, that the Elder actually dosen't live anymore sowe can cross him out. If the story wants to progress Maven has to get some story weight while either siding with us (falling in love with our slaying and training us to get stronger so THEY won't take over our world - atlas points) or standing against us (trying to kill us but always failing and leaving some of her power behind for us to gather - Atlas points). After finishing the first Maven fight (like actual encounter Maven but maybe a weaker fight just for the story) THEY are arriving. Not all at once, but maybe one or 2 per league. And here, THEY are: The Wayfarer (Codename: Protector) He/She sides with the Exile because there are some of THEM that actually love the lesser "creatures". If the Wayfarer gives us any additional gimmicks like atlas points or just shows up in maps to help us with unique Others-buffs or something completely different if up to you. The Ferryman (Codename: Porter) He sides with the Others and has the ability to create portals to invide Otherlings (small spawns from the Other realms). He's collecting energy from the old gods and even the beast to create a large portal that the Others could use to finally invade Wraeclast. Dosen'T matter if we kill him because his death would bring up enough energy to activate the portal but Zana and some others will redirect the portal to open at different locations within the atlas. The Orge (Codename: Butcher) One of the evil Others. First one to cross the portal. Goes on a rampage and will sometimes show up in maps if certain conditions are met. He drops some usefull currency and unique items. The Queen (Codename: Mother) One of the oldest Others. She wants to either protect or cleanse the world. Not sure about her motives yet. Tell me if you have any ideas. The Sage (Codename: Prophet) He is like the Envoy but you'll actually face him. He had the idea to conquer other realms because the Others are the Apex of creation and other lifeforms just exist to feed them. The One (Codename: Origin) The oldest and first of the Others. He's the strongest of them all and the final enemy. His motives aren't visible yet but he's able to create Others without any problems."
@gamingmalaum
@gamingmalaum 2 жыл бұрын
always good content!
@mesmercricket6720
@mesmercricket6720 2 жыл бұрын
Since it wasn't brought up in this video, I'll bring it up here. When the Envoy mentions having encountered "a bastion of flesh that towered above, smothering the stars (which matches the "Melding of the Flesh" unique jewel's flavor text about 'rising into the living sky')", and how he and those he led got absorbed into it, that most likely was his encounter with the Tangle. Which invites the question of how he managed to get out. Based on his other stories, odds are he was pulled out of the Tangle by someone/something else - e.g. the Lightkeeper pulled him out and gave him his assignment/punishment of being the Maven's guardian/caretaker. That or he managed to get out on his own before then being given his "punishment". Dunno if it means much in the long run, but it's something I remembered from the 'Echoes of the Atlas' lore vid.
@chicomanara
@chicomanara 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the new PoE conspiracy video hahahahah
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 2 жыл бұрын
Wait ???? Zana leaving will be explained?????
@adambaker6794
@adambaker6794 2 жыл бұрын
You know I'm actually doing an oni'garoshi character and I def thought the goddess herself would have a few great things to say about the cleansing fire
@jaquelinelorn1906
@jaquelinelorn1906 Жыл бұрын
"rivaling piety" as if she was ever a big deal...
@OhSeanO151
@OhSeanO151 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory which I feel is kind of obvious but maybe only because I'm also into mtg and comics. The atlas is obviously a representation of the multiverse. It seems possible that these eldritch beings could be other iterations of Sin and Innocence, or even the seed by which each iteration, our Sin and Innocence being some of them, are reflections of or grew from. I've always thought of the other conquerors and rogue exiles in the atlas as being versions of me. Further theory: if we take our past exploits before the new version of the story takes effect as canon, we can also theorize that those things did happen and were not retconned. This seems obvious, because they attributed to another exile, but if I really think about it, if Kitava was already destroyed, there would be no reason to do it again. So maybe, the new eldritch beings are just other versions of Sin and Innocence from another reality that got really powerful and the silence allowed these beings to come across.
@Discipol
@Discipol 2 жыл бұрын
The mother looks a lot like Zana...
@yourmadwife
@yourmadwife 2 жыл бұрын
pointing that out right after Zana's leaving into the atlas? might be The Atlas got inspired by fears of Zana, wondering between the realms, and created these Searing Exarch and Eater of Worlds. As if The Atlas itself reacted to Zana's presence and created these abominations as embodiments of her own nature: Eater of Worlds for her fear of neverstopping danger coming from atlas and Searing Exarch for her humanity(Sin part) and arrogance, righteousness(Innocense part). Arrogance in her vision of silently deciding to sacrifice exiles sanity if needed, as she did with Veritania, Drox, Al-Hezmin, Baran and Sirus, because it is for the right cause. Those Exiles became their desires but suppose Zana did not became something like that in four splitted beings. If take Sin and Innocense symbols as eyes, i can see how Sins symbol represent an open eye of humanity - unordered routine, egocentric, grief, curiosity, possibility to experiment, learn things and make mistakes, leaving a trail of grease and dust. Innocence symbol as a crossed eye - closed eye, which do not desire to look upon trembling sinners, granting ordering fire, purging away all in which there is no curiosity for him. Exarch seems to have both symbols, both eyes. What is it in his hand? A Lantern? He's looking for sane people like Diogenes. To purge them and suffice curiosity in the process, while they wither to ashes, leaving a trail of scorched expanse. The Black Star looks like a mess merged Atziri + Solaris + Lunaris, something vaalish and that duality of divine creatures. Maybe she represents Zana's phantasms about ascending to divinity and become a god on her own, reflecting her knowledge about existing gods and recent Oriath cataclysms. Infinite Hunger as a minor phantasm could be just a walking obsession nature mind corrupting obsessive and disgusting thoughts. Even most innocent thing or thought may be percieved as "disgusting" by someone. Maybe Zana observed how numerous exiles strived for power and was disgusted by that selfishness, compare her own to them on and on, and one day - a tangle of hesitation slithered in her mind. Maybe, for a moment, she found herself wanting to seek a power too. Since than that thought grew, she tried to fight an urge go mapping too and this desire defeated her so she left. Where is Conquerors Watchstone Atlas Altars? Zana may did unplug them and destroy.. or use them to create some devious machine to turn The Atlas inside out so it would reflect and absorb its own mirroring presence till annihilation.
@joaopc94
@joaopc94 2 жыл бұрын
In the cannon, did Valdo aka shaper die after the fight with the Elder? Does he stay just as a memory in the atlas or is he still alive roaming it? Because i fear what a father-daughter combo would do in the future of the atlas.
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that, in the Uber Elder fight, Shaper/Valdo dies. However, he is now part of the Maven’s collection, retained as a “toy.” We also know that there are multiple timelines, as explored in Scourge… so Shaper being alive in another timeline is possible.
@Braindead154
@Braindead154 2 жыл бұрын
When the expansion was announced, my big headcannon was that the exarch was Maxarius. While I was wrong, it does feel good to at least be tangentially on the right track
@vergil4816
@vergil4816 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. I want to add something about Zana. During the inauguration of siege of Atlas , Chris Wilson said something at the very beginning. He said Zana left us for her 'AGENDA'. He didn't mention heartbreak or sadness. He directly said 'her agenda'.
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the new end game?
@Acemont
@Acemont 2 жыл бұрын
Originally I was going: "Why in the all Nine Hells would we work with Maven". But GGG did it. She was training us for a year and now we fight first 2 minions of the Great Eldrich Horrors. And the Best thing about it - with new Atlas and new pair of bosses - Path of Exile opens itself to a lot of new possibilities. Which is great.
@Acemont
@Acemont 2 жыл бұрын
(Though I would love for Zana to be the Final Accord of Path of Exile 1)
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 жыл бұрын
Because Maven is the most known quantity, not serving some mysterious higher power. She just wants to have fun, not invade.
@ulgenrabishlave4645
@ulgenrabishlave4645 2 жыл бұрын
Just one more map Mom I promise! 🤞
@blvcksvn
@blvcksvn 2 жыл бұрын
Btw I think the envoy's lines about the Bastion of limbs and flesh are referencing the tangle.
@LoneWolfJi
@LoneWolfJi 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a Sunday lore video?
@SubtleSerpent
@SubtleSerpent 2 жыл бұрын
SirusFusionNukeBeam1: Be utterly annihilated! CleansingFireExtraBRandom: Be utterly annihilated! hmmm. If you compare The Searing Exarch's voice lines to Sirus's voice lines, they are incredibly similar. Glorious Flames!
@warbloodpoe8830
@warbloodpoe8830 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Maven could take both the Exarch and the Eater by herself lol having us there is overkill.. Just saying..
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
The fact she needs a champion at all makes me wonder if she is, herself, a growing cosmic force who by “Order” cannot fight herself. We do fight her, though, so that’s a bit of a wash
@warbloodpoe8830
@warbloodpoe8830 2 жыл бұрын
@@KittenCatNoodle If the Tangled actually shows up will she need a group of champions or will she be more active. That will be interesting or will the creator of The Tangled ever make itself known Right now, she basically a kid with an ant farm (the atlas)
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking yes I'm glad this was made ,I took a break after binging every episode.
@DDukenLU
@DDukenLU 2 жыл бұрын
누가 한글 번역 자막 좀 달아주세요 ㅠㅠ
@braize6279
@braize6279 Жыл бұрын
And Zana took the muscular golden ass of Innocence along with her
@leaguerusher7523
@leaguerusher7523 2 жыл бұрын
Longtime viewer, first time commenter. What do you make of the Crystal Omniscience amulet flavor text in specific? "That winter, scorched refugees emerged from the shrine" seems pretty specific. Like REALLY specific. What winter? what shrine? And if you look at it the symbol is the Innocence symbol. thanks love your channel!
@beningram1811
@beningram1811 2 жыл бұрын
Re: the new unique at 14:04 , One reason why there might be that flavour text on that unique is that the followers of innocence were previously afraid of the Searing Exarch, but Innocence fought it off, (or opposed it in some other way) and gave his followers tools to do the same. EDIT: at 15:35 you say "...we have never heard Innocence be called the Lord of light" . You obviously don't play Templar class very much, as he's ALWAYS calling him that. EDIT2: at 18:05 the text displayed on screen, underlined strongly implies that, outside of Sin's own testimony, Innocence was once human. Also the text on screen shows that Sin retained his humanity, (he had some to begin with, he was human). They also refer to each other as Brother while conversing, and even in Innocence's own propaganda, he never neglected to call Sin his brother.
@metalismychim6536
@metalismychim6536 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I thought just for the fun of it I should watch some lore and now I actually got interested. GGG really should make maybe some sort of short movie or something because this world is actually interesting.
@Krutontar
@Krutontar 2 жыл бұрын
The Tangle = The Thing.
@parheliaa
@parheliaa 2 жыл бұрын
If Zana becomes a boss monster, I hope we will be able to ask her "Still Sane?" 2:26 It's called "a new league", pal
@anba9499
@anba9499 2 жыл бұрын
oh how i missed falling asleep to the sound of you silky voice depicting unimaginable horrors
@m1xxx3r
@m1xxx3r 2 жыл бұрын
i still think that 4 color schemes on main supporter packs(imperator-vortex; annihilator-nebula; ravager-stardust; incinerator-solar) and "Eater of Worlds" are Terraria crossover easter eggs
@vallexti
@vallexti 2 жыл бұрын
Sinocence
@Dragynn999
@Dragynn999 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I ab prone to interpret the Maven's words "...This puppet stands on string unseen..." in a way that gives me a headcanon that might be a tad cheesy but still kinda fits. The Witch has a few animations in which her movements look like a puppet on strings, considering that she is likely connected to a being that enables her to wield her powers this kinda fits the description. The cheesy part, I believe that the entity she is connected with is the player, serving as a puppeteer. Maybe this even explains why the other eldritch horrors do not pay our exiles any attention... they are not the one confronting them. We are.
@angel38618
@angel38618 2 жыл бұрын
Btw what force does the maven serve Elder the decay Exarch the cleansing fire Eater of worlds is tangle
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 жыл бұрын
None as far as we know. She just enjoys doing what she does, which is why she's the safest choice to side with.
@jhtrq1465
@jhtrq1465 7 ай бұрын
If the Exarch's master is somehow the "father" of Sin and Innocence, could the Eater or World superior be related to Kitava? They seem connected by the same theme : Their hunger
@boisq97
@boisq97 5 ай бұрын
the Complete Lore Series playlist being out of order makes it kind of funny, because its like you forgot everything you said on a "previous" video, i mean, theres a poe 2 video right before the act 9 one...
@M1k3_
@M1k3_ 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is the Envoy will be the Boss of all bosses. He's gonna be like Whis in DBZ 🤓
@MysticalShadowDragon
@MysticalShadowDragon 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this vid, it clears up all this confusion of why theres suddenly karui shores instead of oriath like i was used to xD
@anathema1828
@anathema1828 2 жыл бұрын
Still sane?
@knaz7468
@knaz7468 Жыл бұрын
I don't get why people hate on Zana so much. I don't want her to become the big bad. I will also never forget seeing Zana (the voice actor) sit next to Mathil at the autograph take at exilecon, not realizing his own cosplay as her. GGG knew what they were doing.
@weertangel7231
@weertangel7231 2 жыл бұрын
This is some amazing exposition of the new lore and i do enjoy a good lore discussion! And i do wonder how the Searing Exarch is related to the gods of wraeclast, its gonna be interesting for sure. Not to mention how Zana will come back in the future, couse its without a doubt she will somehow and with a bang! And from what u say Innocence might be a child of the Cleansing fire while Sin is from the Tangle wich makes one wonder how both severed from their entities, maybe both are refugees?
@Nerim89
@Nerim89 2 жыл бұрын
i kinda got one more theory about the searing exarc! what if that being is the combined manifestation of Sin and Innocence
@Pierdzichuj
@Pierdzichuj 2 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@SkieraSeven
@SkieraSeven 2 жыл бұрын
If Kalandra uses the power of reflection (and inverse reflection) then possibly her children were reflections of both Searing and Eater?
@peculeo
@peculeo 2 жыл бұрын
Jun is the real victim after the loss of zana.. my poor girl..
@Reincarny
@Reincarny 2 жыл бұрын
this pleases me greatly
@MrJosh6889
@MrJosh6889 2 ай бұрын
If we're not already in it, the final league before poe 2 should be "Revenge of Zana"
@wellwellwell5069
@wellwellwell5069 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible lore video, I play pOE for some years now and tried one time to read through all the lore but god was that tiring and long. I'll be following the channel and look forward to the next update on lore :D
@kylemiles8291
@kylemiles8291 Жыл бұрын
Not true to say we haven't heard innocence called lord of light. The templar pc uses that exact phrase.
@Sith90lord
@Sith90lord 2 жыл бұрын
Boat league happened "off-screen" =)))
@mythmonster2
@mythmonster2 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, this is the first video I've seen from you, and it's great! It's good to see people interested in POE lore, it's really deep and interesting, and you did great work here!
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 2 жыл бұрын
I collecting "unsettling ghosts" in my hideout. She fits in well with other "unalived" characters. I suspect that Kirac is going to turn "baddie" (Are we the baddies?) over his brother and Maven.
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and Zana isn't human. She *IS* our atlas just like Maven is studying her to grow up.
@marceloandrade5568
@marceloandrade5568 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, do I like your videos! Said it once, will say it again: GGG should hire you asap! Now, as for my theories... what if the Searing Exarch and the Eater of Worlds ARE Innocence and Sin, enlisted as champions by the eldrich powers and changed in the process? What do you think?
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
Like, that they’ve changed back now? And are currently in the forms of Searing Exarch/Eater of Worlds instead of Innocence/Sin? Maybe! I dunno how I feel about that. I lean more towards Sin/Inn being related to/fathered by Searing Exarch, and Sin’s differences, his negative traits, being 1) different than the virtue/fire of Innocence and the Searing Exarch and 2) being compared to the Tangle (like his depravity is on the level of that cosmic horror), are described by the Templars and Innocence in terms given to them by the words of the Searing Exarch, to Innocence (or his mother, who took on his “values”)
@Joulespersecond
@Joulespersecond 2 жыл бұрын
Is the chaos mentioned here the same chaos that the Trialmaster served?
@G33KST4R
@G33KST4R 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, the flavor text on melding of the flesh is metal as hell.
@CJ00014
@CJ00014 Жыл бұрын
Those bosses are Sin and Innocence since they trip south
@lehmannthiago
@lehmannthiago 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing, as always! thank you so much
@Gildorify
@Gildorify Жыл бұрын
I don't wanna be sane. Just one more map? No. 1.000 or more.
@Black-Clad-Disaster
@Black-Clad-Disaster Ай бұрын
Chime in this context is pronounced "kime"
@ZoooZ
@ZoooZ 2 жыл бұрын
Is the maven more powerful than the gods? Great lore video as always.
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
I think so! Especially since the Envoy has to stop us before we do actual harm to the Maven, and the Maven can collect map bosses and conquerors and who knows what else as her “toys.” She’s got a bigger range and more terrifying powers.
@roye.5403
@roye.5403 2 жыл бұрын
I been waiting for this love the lore thank you
@Panda-sn5or
@Panda-sn5or 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any connection between the Tangle and Kitava? They seem to share a similar theme of hunger and that might not be entirely a coincidence. Also isn't Kitava opposed to Innocence just like the Tangle is opposed to the Cleansing Fire? It's been a while since I brushed up on the lore of this game so I'm not entirely sure.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 жыл бұрын
No, Kitava's beef is with the Karui gods. The Templar just happened to be conveniently available to eat where he got resurrected.
@KittenCatNoodle
@KittenCatNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
The theme of Hunger is certainly more applicable to Kitava, but I wouldn’t say Kitava is part of a duality with Innocence. He’s more of a shared obstacle, for both Sin and Innocence (and everyone really), and what he consumes is just eaten, not transformed into part of him
@HamyHaxxor
@HamyHaxxor 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and theories as usual.
@near3d945
@near3d945 2 жыл бұрын
What i want to know is who/what does the Imperator support refer to. The other 4 is the new endgame bosses but the imperator?
@Leffrey117
@Leffrey117 2 жыл бұрын
The atlas scouts under Kirac
@hereisawarning
@hereisawarning 2 ай бұрын
i love these videos so much
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