Richard Dawkins Confronts a Christian Extremist!

The Reverend Michael Bray is a leading advocate of murdering abortion doctors. He also takes biblical literalism to the extreme of advocating the death penalty for adultery and homosexuality. His friend and coconspirator, the Reverend Paul Hill, was executed for murdering an abortion doctor and his bodyguard. Bray strongly defends Hill’s action and thinks he’s now being rewarded in heaven. Bray himself served 46 months of a 10-year jail sentence for conspiracy and possession of illicit explosives. What follows is an audio recording of a long conversation I had with him in a public park in Colorado. He struck me as a deeply confused individual but at the same time sincere, a mind addled and perverted by religious faith, walking evidence of Steven Weinberg’s well-known aphorism, which I quote at the end of this recording: for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.
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[@yeahcat7509]

I like the way Dawkins stays calm and allows the man to convict himself with his own words.

[@dougkampe6117]

I don't know how he does it, but he does a beautiful job!

[@stefanlindstrom-entreprenology]

@@dougkampe6117 thought controls our emotions, our emotions control our behavior

[@belperflyer7419]

Dawkins is invariably polite in his interactions with religious fanatics

[@johnferry7778]

@@stefanlindstrom-entreprenologyWe have gut reactions as well though don’t we? Sometimes our thoughts have to catch up to our feelings don’t they? It seems to me that sometimes we have to rationalise our immediate reactions to things, sometimes our feelings can surprise us and we have to work out why afterwards.

[@Shaara1]

@@yeahcat7509 Dawkins keeps winging like a spoilt kid each time the other doesn't agree with him. Tantrums.:) He argues about religion all the time yet , till these dayshe didn't make an effort to look up what's it all about. I remember when once he was losing control again when proving a full religious audience that God doesn't exist because he doesn't get it, and went around with a thought, until he just proved there is God. But he couldn't understand it obviously, only the audience. Everyone started laughing, and he got even more frustrated.:)) "What is it?!! What are you laughing at?!!" He was making a fool of himself.:)) Rightly so. He should study everything before giving an expert advice on it. Arrogant pr*ck. There are intelligent atheist with whom arguments are a pleasure. Idiots like this just entertainment like reality shows.

[@Domzdream]

Prime example of a human being who doesn’t realise he’s actually evil.

[@richardlawson6787]

I might suggest the biblical god is evil with all his hatred and killing

[@NunchucksHabit]

How did he even survive in prison? I haven't had so much as a speeding ticket in 20yrs & I'd have had a 'problem' with him immediately. Imagine you make it through medical school, you help, you heal, you serve your community, you're given the title "doctor", which to thinking people is a far more respectful title than 'reverend'. I do applaud Mr Dawkins for allowing the "cultist without a cult" Bray to expose the lunacy & cowardice of his efforts. If Bray was actually paid for this, however, I take that back. To see a grown man try to explain how he knows the nature & origin of the universe where true genius doesn't, and the laughably childish fantasy world he's trying desperately to believe - I'm actually relieved that the proceeding generations simply won't put up with this - not just Bray's sick fantasy, but they're far better informed, and less susceptible to gullibility. Bray will have his moment, no matter how much of himself he throws into his "it's true 'cause the bible says so" attitude. As a thinking adult, everyone eventually comes to that crossroads. Deep down, they know it's not true. No matter how much they want it to be, no matter how lost they might feel as they initially cope with the reality. I hope they're given leniency as they 'transition' to non-believers & see the positive side of it all. How *should* people respond to an utter silence that is deaf to our every dose of pain for what, 300k years? How is it that we call someone who wouldn't dare say his name, "god"? In our species' entire history, this entity has not once made a single sound. God is a 'he', he loves us, and the punishment for not loving him back is eternal fire. Watch the christian expression when they describe 'hell'. The revel in its torments. We are to deny our intellects, pretend he's there, believe those are his words in the bible/on stone tablets, punish 'sinners' accordingly. The 'virgin' thing is what first got me to look at smarter scenarios. Jesus had a father & mother. They had a baby. If you don't believe that he was conceived naturally, I do hope you find comfort in this - but I do not.

[@Domzdream]

@@NunchucksHabit Yea man nice comment 👏

[@margaretjohnson6259]

pure evil. nothing good in bray.

[@allenheath6564]

That’s such and idiot attitude……

[@tomdahmer7596]

Prof. Dawkins, you are a national treasure of the UK and a global treasure of the rest of the world. Carry on in good health. We need you. I thank you.

[@dennyworthington6641]

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire

[@justsome-guy7596]

I've never heard that before - such a perfect line!

[@ChesterRingtail]

And whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@justsome-guy7596 i've seen it credited to mark twain. "but in the morning madam i shall be sober again, but you madam will still be ugly" - churchill when accused of being sloshed.

[@MustAfaalik]

Every indigenous community have their own story of creation. What makes religious people believe theirs is the only true one can be attributed to superstition, ignorance & arrogance.

[@globalcoupledances]

Le premier devin fut le premier fripon qui rencontra un imbécile. It is from an essay. Title "On Divination" or something like that

[@erinelizabethmsw5137]

Fabulous job using questions instead of accusations. You’re one of a kind Richard. ❤

[@alexanderlehner1849]

Absolutely! I learned this method from Dawkins and others. It works brilliant in debates.

[@erinelizabethmsw5137]

@@alexanderlehner1849 💯

[@jezdavis1865]

Richard is obviously outstanding, but not one of a kind in this context. For a masterclass in Socratic questioning, look up Peter Boghossian’s street epistemology videos.

[@erinelizabethmsw5137]

@@jezdavis1865 He’s so good at keeping his cool when most people’s blood would be boiling. I’ll check that out, thanks!

[@LogicalKip]

That's the blood of Street Epistemology and that method is what is going to cleanse the world from religion. It just works.

[@tam323]

Prime example of why religious zealots are so dangerous. This man's irrationality is terrifying

[@jamespppyacek342]

Twists himself into knots trying to justify his bigotry.

[@mynameiseve.1]

he doesnt even believe wat hes saying!! he is stuttering and stammering with too many ahhhs and uhhhs.

[@MikeTheBizGuy]

This man is a living example of the dangers of fanaticism

[@MikeTheBizGuy]

@cyberpostpunker1619 dangerous? 😂 are you high?

[@mrhallangen]

​​@@MikeTheBizGuyThis is a person with a Trump PFP. No, he isn't hight... he's just an imbecile. Ah, good old USA. The land of the brainwashed.

[@stevenhall9009]

Fascism comes intertwined with conservatism, electing either to any office gets you both.

[@MikeTheBizGuy]

@@stevenhall9009 what are you talking about?

[@thefallengallery6459]

@@MikeTheBizGuy he wouldn’t be high, that’s a sin 😂 he’s just an idiot

[@WilliamCarlson-rh2ri]

At 66, as a gay man, this man and all his cruel religious zealots have been my enemy since childhood, they are evil and cruel, wrapping themselves in the Bible, where Christ preaches love. My saving grace is all the humans that actually believe in love, compassion and acceptance, and dispel hate, bigotry and cruelty. Love Democracy. . . . Vote Blue!

[@FECtetra1918]

I don’t think those who vote blue like democracy.

[@StephenHowton]

I can't vote "Blue" because I live in Australia, but, as a sixty-eight-year-old gay man, I must agree with your comment. You and I would remember a time when we could be imprisoned just for expressing who we are. So many of the countries with laws against homosexuality based those laws on religious beliefs. Indeed, I was quite active in my younger years joining campaigns to abolish those laws. In recent years I actively campaigned in Melbourne for marriage equality (which we achieved in 2017). This campaign was set against an awful public discussion culminating in a postal plebiscite. Despite all of the terrible things said to and about the gay community, the people in Australia voted resoundingly to change the Marriage Act.

[@FECtetra1918]

@@WilliamCarlson-rh2ri Do you really think ‘reds’ love democracy? I have never seen a more hateful group. I have experienced more bigotry as a conservative (from liberals) than I have as an atheist (from religious people).

[@FECtetra1918]

@@WilliamCarlson-rh2ri Liberals can’t even tolerate freedom of speech. It’s my speech or no speech at all.

[@FECtetra1918]

@@erikchristian3894 Perhaps you missed the part where I said I received more hate from liberals than from conservatives. Liberals are the most hatefull group of people I have ever encountered in my life.

[@slickshewz]

Michael bray probably makes more atheists than Dawkins does.

[@PrivateSi]

Maybe they're hoping to convert Islamists and J**s to Christianity!?

[@three_owl_night]

I think Christian apologists in general move more people away from Christianity than all the atheists combined.

[@tomgreene1843]

He probably does !

[@PrivateSi]

Converted to Anti-theism would be more accurate terminology. One religion to another. I'm anti-religion.

[@slickshewz]

@@PrivateSi anti-theism is not a religion, in any sense of the word.

[@kennedyokongo]

The fact that he has a church and congregation is even more worrying

[@mynameiseve.1]

plus 11children and a human piece of property at home in form of a woman!

[@DomRoy-w7r]

The existence of individuals like Michael Bray in 2024 in a developed country is frightening and dangerous for humanity!!!!! I admire Richard Dawkins for staying SO calm in front of such a revolting creature!

[@earlr2992]

Reverend Michael Bray is an American Lutheran minister who was convicted in 1985, along with two other defendants of two counts of conspiracy and one count of possessing unregistered explosive devices in relation to seven bombings of women's health clinics and three offices of women's health advocacy groups in Washington, D.C. Bray and his wife, Jayne, are the named defendants in the Supreme Court decision Bray v. Alexandria, a ruling that determined anti-abortion demonstrators could not block entrances to abortion clinics in order to stop patients from entering to receive services. At the time of his conviction he was a member of the Christian extremist terrorist organization Army of God.

[@wmm0106]

The man's MAD. I'll get the straight jacket.

[@2011littleguy]

Its just back from the cleaners!

[@loumeep]

Truly mentally ill. His hyperfocus is mythology and he is a danger to others

[@rlstine4982]

He is a biologist, can't be that bad... 🤣

[@gaelicd8328]

​@@rlstine4982 o yeah....

[@ilaphroaig]

Poor 11 children. Wouldn't want a dad like him. What a horrible human.

[@MMAJE5]

With 11 children, the odds of one of them being gay is high, no? I wonder if he thinks about that. Would he kill his own child? This guy is indeed terrifying.

[@margaretjohnson6259]

even worse for his wife. 11 children. poor woman.

[@mynameiseve.1]

i feel terrible for the wife!! no doubt she is way below him! disgusting!!

[@JorgePetraglia2009]

This man got a sentence of 10 years for assisting two murders and served only a couple of them. I wonder what the relatives of the murdered might think about the justice system in that nation. The power of religion is so strong in there that it can convince society that this man has been rehabilitated , while he clearly still makes public his criminal ideology, basing it on old scriptures which don't have any real value today. This monster is as dangerous as the creators of "The final solution" in WW2. Thank you professor Dawkins for bringing these people out in the open. Greetings from Toronto.

[@Bruintjebeer6]

It is the Christian version of the Taliban. Sad enough he is far far from alone. It is these people who support Trump to implement a national christian dictatorship. People like this man are sitting in the House and Senate on the moment

[@linaanderson2622]

But he can go to his priest or whatever say he's sorry say 10 hail Mary's and he's forgiven, oh the madness of religious fanatics. They are all in for a big gunk when theyre dead cause that's it, when your dead your dead. Lights out

[@Bruintjebeer6]

@@linaanderson2622 that is the greatest of being a Catholic You whatever the you want to do and go to confession do your punishment and have a fresh start next week you do the same Than when your in your last hours you call for a priest. He gives you the holy oil. You say that you are truly sorry for all you did. The prest prays with you and you g to heaven Can't go wrong. Even a Jack the Ripper can die in peace and go to heaven if he is religious and believes that such thing exists

[@linaanderson2622]

@@Bruintjebeer6 I was brought up catholic and went to a catholic school, we were lucky my Italian father didn't practice his faith. My childhood and teens I the catholic faith is why I, m an atheist to this day. It's all one big con to keep the people in line

[@Bruintjebeer6]

@@linaanderson2622 I went to a Catholic school as well Complete with a monastery I was 3 when I went there until I was 16. I had a marvelous time with my girlfriends but like you and many many other the hypocrisy and double standards drove me away. We also had a seminary in our village and I remember that many boys coming there to learn to be a priest quit after their eyes were opened and after the assaults some had to undergo.

[@hurkuy]

Exactly like my father! Christian version of my ultra religious muslim father!! Enough from religion people enough!!

[@leedelmont4Yeshua]

I totally agree, i am sick of man made religion, i mean religion is what put Yeshua on the cross in the first place... Randy Kay channel more than proof enough of an afterlife.. :).

[@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt]

@@leedelmont4Yeshuaman made middle eastern fantasy stories written by men to control their tribe.

[@jeanlou79]

Freedom from religion!

[@mansourbakook2226]

Guys I live in Iran and it was really hard for me to break years and years of religious teaching. The only thing that made it happen was listening and learning from these great atheists And finally after 27 years I'm free from religion

[@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt]

@@mansourbakook2226 and the weird part is adopting someone else’s culture because of this religion that has nothing to do with our ancestors.

[@lizzieh5284]

His 'church' sounds like a criminal organisation.

[@alibarron7558]

Millions of us had to grow up within these criminal churches.

[@g-mony767]

It is a criminal organization!

[@sarge420]

All churches all criminal organizations

[@jojolag31]

So true

[@normanhunter7]

Deep down when your pull the dirty blankets aside all churches are criminal organizations

[@EpiicxFuziion]

The wrong people are breeding.

[@rlstine4982]

Fortunately, ideas are not contained in genes.

[@rlstine4982]

@Tired-hm4tw Hence why churches try to indoctrinate them as soon as possible.

[@LarryButler-kp3se]

I'm doin' my best!

[@martinogold]

@@LarryButler-kp3se Give her one from me bud 😝

[@trocarcat]

and these are the same people complaining that too many people are coming to the USA and stealing all the "black jobs" this guy has 11 kids? so I'd guess the girls won't be allowed to be educated or work, ( since their job is cooking cleaning & risking their lives to have as many births as possible) but 5-6 of them will be "boys" so they will be stealing the black jobs, but that okay, because they look like him. So if someone honeymoons in Aruba, or the Galopogos and 9 months later has a baby... is it really American? since life begins at fertilization and all.. Is it Ecuadorian? I really need to know whether I have to disown and deport my kid or if I should "love" them..

[@sharonboggs]

Richard Dawkins as a lot more patience for this guy's nonsense than I could ever hope to have.

[@rikomagic2885]

This guy is off the scale. He is a perfect example of just how dangerous religion can be to those who are so easily swayed by a 2000 year old story book. It's scary when he actually has zero evidence of anything he actually believes even existed or happened

[@Domzdream]

This little psycho would happily see hundreds of people writhing in pain, because a book tells him to do ‘x’ Scary indeed. I’m amazed guys like this roam the streets freely. But I guess within fairness, people like this should only be worthy of an arrest WHEN they’ve done something wrong. But you definitely see he’s frustrated that he can’t carry out tortures die to les put in place that override his ancient biblical law.

[@laureelohnes4231]

What's off the scale is your sweeping statement dismissing Judeo-Christian Christianity scripture as a 'storybook'.

[@DomRoy-w7r]

@@laureelohnes4231 It is a book of bad stories, written by ignorant individuals, who obviously could not know any better some 20 centuries ago!!!!

[@tonyfanfarone]

@@laureelohnes4231because it is.

[@richardlawson6787]

​@@laureelohnes4231so you believe those silly bible stories like samson losing his hair?.lets grow up

[@bluelab5019]

This guy is every reason 90% of people reject a god

[@debbiesunlight7047]

Yeah except in USA where 70 percent are religious. :( terrible.

[@AnythingwithGregG-f2z]

@@debbiesunlight7047 And like all good christians, 70% are lying.

[@darthmong7196]

I'd like to think 'insufficient evidence' would be the primary reason.

[@charlescossel7948]

Boy Howdy!

[@WizardImp]

93% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's arse.

[@dwolfcoach]

So he killed the doctor out of love? And these folks wonder why their pews are empty? 😮

[@Yet-Another-Joe]

Michael Bray represents a troubling case of religious extremism. Regrettably, there are others similar to Bray attempting to take control of the United States government presently.

[@LynetteA68]

#SCARYFACT #VOTEBLUE

[@RayThackeray]

They already have the majority of the Supreme Court so it's all over, they won.

[@cgpcgp3239]

That guy is nuts. If he walked up to you at a party and said hi you’d know without him saying another word something is off about him.

[@benkeating9237]

Saying that he's nuts, is an understatement. He's very dangerous! He's established a school ffs!

[@MrMattSax]

A man in the 21st century who still believes severe weather is the result of displeasing his god 😳

[@amarissimus29]

Are you serious?? Every single anomalous weather event is now tied to climate change, an opportunity to bring in an expert to lecture us on how we have all sinned against the planet and must atone and abase ourselves before the Science. Don't delude yourself that you're immune to superstition. We're all capable of making absurdly ironic statements like yours. I forgive you. Go with Green, my son, and carbon no more.

[@MrMattSax]

@@amarissimus29 kind of flew off the handler there, my dude. Just so I’m clear: you think we CAN draw a correlation between weather events and a supernatural being’s disposition towards things we’ve done?

[@dnlwood32]

Surely as soon happens all around the world constantly (their beliefs) this would mean we would have constant storms!

[@m.a.sperry3424]

@@amarissimus29 Please explain how that statement is "absurdly ironic". It's precisely what Bray said. If you summarily dismiss the "Science" then you are not forgiven.

[@Jay-ft3xh]

@@amarissimus29 fox news did a number on you, sad clown.

[@KarlToompuu]

I wish Dawkins had asked him what he would do if one of his eleven kids was a homosexual.

[@judgedottaylor7565]

I thought he was going to ask that immediately after asking if he loves his kids.

[@sssppp2923]

Nothing would make me happier than to hear that some of his 11 children grew up to be members of the LGBTQ community and atheists 😅

[@kookamunga2458]

I can't watch the video because this evil man is scary as hell and gives me the creeps and I'm not talking about Richard .

[@MrMattSax]

That kid would be in severe danger and would likely just live in the closet until he was distanced from his father

[@markrichter2053]

I think we know what he would do. He would first disown him. Then seek to have him killed

[@richardwells1804]

This guy is nuts….. No wonder the USA is such crazy place

[@wburke121]

47.48 omg he is nuts.

[@tammyburke9453]

Dawkins is just so refreshing! Clarifying. Intelligent. Love to hear him interact with religious nuts.

[@davecannabis]

i would add to that , he also takes a non confrontal attitude, more like a conversation than interrogation

[@WayneLynch69]

'Dawkins' pal, Princeton prof. Peter Singer, advocates for euthanizing children up to one year of age and you're affronted by this religious guy? Singer is so insane as to be enraged by "animal abuse"...unless human. Dawkins titled his BBC Documentary, "The Root of All Evil"...guess what?! "In 75 years, genocidally atheistic Communism was responsible for 100 million deaths"--Harvard University Press, "The Black Book of Communism" "Of the 1,763 wars dating to 300 BCE, religion (other than Islam) was the impetus of 61." (The Encyclopedia of War, Vols. I-III) THAT'S 3.5%, though contains OVER HALF earth's population! The 20th century alone had wars consuming 136 million lives. WWs I&II were the product of leaders: Churchill, Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, FDR, Kaiser Wilhelm, Lloyd George, Clemenceau, Wilson, Mussolini. NOT ONE advanced their aggressions predicated upon RELIGIONS of any kind, sect, denomination... BUT...'Religion is the Root of All Evil'! The Council of Nicea originated institutional hospital/infirmary, education, indigent care. It is THE DIRECT LINEAL ANTECEDENT of those social causes today. WHY NEVER FACTS from the Dawkins of the world for their libels such as "Root of All Evil"?! ONLY the religious are so nakedly, provably libelously, gleefully bigotedly smeared. NEVER would the sanctimonious Dawkins DREAM of lying similarly about BLACKS, WOMEN, JEWS... It is done purely to declare his smarmy, self-aggrandizing purity... read: SUPERIORITY! IT NEVER CHANGES...THEY'RE ALWAYS THE SAME: Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Un, Ceaucescu..."I'm the one pure, inspired visionary"

[@ShuggieEdvaldson]

@@WayneLynch69 Bingo!

[@y2vince]

The most evil people always think they're the good guys

[@desireedebellis6766]

or the" chosen" ones

[@akamunaga4139]

A man as calm and as patient as Richard Dawkins is a proof of evolution itself.

[@PrivateSi]

So are dinosaurs - and they'd eat Richard for breakfast... no debate!

[@kathybruno482]

Ha! Exactly. The Christian guy needs to evolve himself.

[@M3Busssin]

Dinosaurs are explanation for no god themselves, why would god make dinosaurs first and have them exist for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of years before a bunch of other species and time, and then us? To Believe in religion is to deny dinosaurs

[@abhijeetchavhan37]

​@@PrivateSi they're dead

[@PrivateSi]

@@abhijeetchavhan37 .. Apart from Living Dinosaurs! Catch yer later alligator!

[@peterclemmet]

His rationale is quite mad, what a terrifying person.

[@randyprice5392]

A conversation that fully explains the separation between church and state.

[@TaiguRyu]

It's quite striking how similar Extremist Christians, and Extremist Muslims opinions are. This guy could be an Ayatollah!

[@robertbrozewicz8003]

This so called believer is so full of love that in Medieval Ages he would work for Inquisition.

[@abernalestevez]

This is so scary, listening to this type of fanatism with such conviction and evil is simply terrifying, it is amazing how Richard D. can keep his temper so calmed and objective!!!

[@gerardgauthier4876]

I'm not sure what's more frightening.. What they believe or that they believe it unwaveringly.

[@rlstine4982]

Those biologists are crazy, right?... 🤣

[@wjs1]

The multiplication of the two

[@food4thort]

A perfect lesson on how religion addles the brain!

[@mineshpatel5677]

Richard dawkins had common sense. That's what makes him an atheist. Its not a choice

[@rexpayne7836]

Richard Dawkins is such a gentleman. Bray sounds dangerous. 🇦🇺 😊

[@CIMO13]

The arrogance of those in the wrong is beyond amazing.

[@markwoods4439]

These religious extremist are the frightening part of the religious set. And should be watched very closely and taken seriously. Because if they had real power as long ago we’d be in trouble!!

[@Peacefrogg]

Should children have to earn their parents affection? Kind of sound like child abuse to me.

[@seanlahm4826]

He has 11 children because he has a list of 11 chores he needs done around the house. Soon ALL of his children will spite him . ITs just a form of slave labor. Using your own children.

[@psibert]

It is frightening when a man so insane is so eloquent.

[@alibarron7558]

Believe me, there are millions of them out there. Numerous are in all the branches of the Abrahamic base religious system. All religious organizations are filled with them, when you get down to their souls. The bibles and works were all written by mainly the same.

[@francelaferriere6106]

Well, he's not that eloquent...

[@PlaCerHooD]

You really find him eloquent? No trick question... He says so extremely little it's just world salad

[@rogernichols1124]

He talks. Gramatically correctly. Clearly. Please don't confuse the apparent "eloquence" with intelligence.

[@jonmeador8637]

Christian morality is an oxymoron. He said as much.

[@JckSwan]

Well don't strain it, it'll be replaced by Islamic morality in the West soon enough.

[@MichaelHeinen-qk6gg]

​​@@JckSwan Muslims come to the West for freedom and to cheery pick their own Religion ( Islam ) not to take over the government . Muslims in the Western World want the freedoms that the achient Arab world once had before their ansestors were radicalized not to mention , there are different groups of Muslims just like like there are various denominations of Christians and Catholics.

[@jonmeador8637]

@@laureelohnes4231 First, I’m not an atheist. Second, we can with 100% certainly know that the Christian god is not this source of the “good” you refer to. 100% certainty!

[@laureelohnes4231]

@@jonmeador8637 so what or who is that source? And what do you base your statement of judgement of God on? Your idea of morality?

[@XarXXon]

@@laureelohnes4231 1. Pick up a dictionary and read the definitions of subjective and objective. Obeying a divine dictator isn't morality. 2. Morality starts with empathy which is caused by specialised brain cells, found in all mammals. And the understanding that we're a social species therefore survive easier and longer in a group. 3. Wrong, if Hitler repented he's in heaven. While "mother Theresa" was a monster who deserves hell.

[@johnwarren6110]

That is 11 children who need taking into care.

[@laymelek]

How the f* can he feed 11 children in this economy. How and how much this guy earns?

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@laymelek His followers probably donate all the money he will ever need.

[@NunchucksHabit]

I bet 10 of them end up hating him. Raise a kid in a strict religious environment, and that kid will REBEL. Once they're left alone with a web browser, they're gonna wake up slowly. No matter what 'values' he tries to instill, it won't work. They will know & they will go. His followers are likely on FBI watch lists.

[@seanlahm4826]

I guarantee his children are looked at the same way Mormons view their children. More cheap labor around the house. When they are old enough , more children . These people are disgusting.

[@bentley684]

They need taking into well regulated, assessed fostering, not in to care if in fact you mean care homes or childrens homes, believe me when I tell you that is not always the best option for young children. I understand people don't realise that.

[@Colstah]

Taliban in a suit.

[@marleneravan9927]

it's actually frightening to think he is raising children with his convictions...

[@the_luggage]

Dawkins has called it 'child abuse' and I agree.

[@marleneravan9927]

@@the_luggage yup!

[@razony]

The Cult of Christianity.

[@alibarron7558]

There was and are many millions of children who couldn't or wouldn't be able to escape growing up in such psychotic families and churches. I couldn't escape it and have always referred to my mom as being "the first Christian Terrorist ever Known". Everybody wants to control the other, many to the point of extreme insanity. Religions were formed from such.

[@welshgruff]

I was brought up like this but even as a young child I couldn't believe in sin inherited from Adam and needing a human sacrifice. Later I read writings from other religions and realised it was all fiction and used to control us. There's hope for his children if they are able to think beyond the indoctrination.

[@mindymild]

Knowing people like this exists I’m convinced we are all screwed

[@Peaches328]

And there's a bunch of them spreading false religion. 👍

[@mindymild]

@@Peaches328 “false religion” is rhetorical

[@LynetteA68]

Republican Project 2025 written by The Heritage Foundation gives us the Reps EXACT blueprint on how they plan on turning the USA (w/Out the U) into the theocratic fascist country they’ve long dreamed of!! If we don’t ALL get our asses out and vote men like this INSANE criminal will be running this country & we’ll be the “Christian” version of ISIS or the Taliban!!! As a Native American I’m well aware of what the US gov is capable of and if people think the sins of the USA’s past can’t or won’t be repeated they’re not paying attention!! #VOTEBLUE Nanaya hullo I kana~ ✌🏼 & 🫶🏼my friend! (In Choctaw) ❤from THE CHOCTAW NATION🪶

[@mascot4950]

"God is merciful and loving, " yet he will murder everyone and everything on the planet if some humans upset him enough. The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

[@fionagregory9147]

Richard Dawkins made me an atheist 👍. Thanks.

[@عادلالشمري-ش1ذ]

كيف الطريقه 😅

[@عادلالشمري-ش1ذ]

كيف الطريقه إلى ذلك 😅😅

[@marcsteenbergen8541]

I already became an athiest before but Richards shows hope pernicious the superstition is indeed. There is no heaven or hell but there is live before death lets enjoy that together. I will be in Cambridge and Amsterdam to meet Richard Dawkins and am looking forward to read the new book!

[@lervish1966]

The universe is a thoughtform projected from the mind of God.

[@stephenholmgren405]

Same! Life has been better ever since 😌

[@paulwhittakermusic]

Nurse! Nurse! Mr. Bray is out of bed again!

[@chrisgraham2904]

Oh my! It seem he as left the ward, may have left the institution. Someone check the park across the street.

[@rebeccastanhope3989]

🤣😂🤣

[@Peacefrogg]

‘a book made me do it’

[@GBEL-f2u]

This idiot doesn't know that even the laws he believes in were written by humans. And thousands and hundreds of years ago?

[@lizzieh5284]

I love the way Dawkin's ask this fanatic questions in a calm manner and allows him to dig a bigger hole for himself.

[@rolfsimonsson2295]

It’s scary to know what crackpots we are sharing our world with. Thank you Richard for letting us all know whom to watch out for. Sadly enough there are many who share this madman’s visions of a moral law provided by a God.

[@2011littleguy]

You phrased that very well. "what crackpots we are sharing our world with". Sorry to get political, but I feel that way about many in the you-know-what party.

[@99guspuppet8]

@@2011littleguy❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ i have an immensely long list of people much worse than this man ……… i have no reasonable idea of how to deal with these people ……….. any idea that seems good at first can be taken too far …… let’s all go to Sugar rock Candy Mountain

[@ljoc7455]

This is a prime example of the arrogance of most religious followers. Cherry pick the texts to support your beliefs, and decide you are the moral compass all people should follow

[@1957rayn]

Richard Dawkins is a decent human being and enlightened. I was once a Christian until I learned the truth about who the god of the Bible is. He is not the Creative Force of all creations who does not need to be worshipped, and all that bs we have in all religions.

[@Onionbaron]

Faith can take you anywhere, but not lead you to where you need to be...

[@verko5292]

What a Monster!

[@Henria99]

Frightening he believes to have valid reasoning behind each question. Someone who twists and bends the stories & myths in his favor. Madness.

[@lizzieh5284]

this guy would feel at home living in Afghanistan.

[@jimmyh268]

This guy is effin dangerous

[@brysoga]

How so?

[@marcblanchet678]

@@brysoga convicted in 85 for planning bombings. hows that?

[@joanabug4479]

@@brysoga "I don't like x person due to my own religion (regardless of his own) so getting the state to execute him isn't such a bad idea" - not dangerous at all, right?

[@kiritimati9967]

You better care to explain

[@rkmenescal]

He is dangerous because he is in charge of raising 11 kids under severe conditions of child abuse. I feel sorry for his children. It might take years of therapy to heal the trauma of being raise by such an ignorant fanatic. I know hundreds of people who were mentally tortured by the curse of religion when they were childten.

[@arnoldwillis7685]

So a panel of judges making law is not approved but an individual taking law into their own hands is ok....

[@PatGeo95]

This man is the embodiment of the Republic of Gilead.

[@LynetteA68]

100%!!!! That’s EXACTLY what Reps have planned with the Heritage Foundations Republican Project 2025!! Their plan is to turn the USA (w/out the U) into a theocratic fascist state & people like this INSANE criminal will be running this country!! Trump has introduced or awoken a sleeping GIANT and I’m afraid we’re in BIG trouble!! I’m Native American and while I live on the Rez I don’t even feel safe here anymore! I’m sure if Trump is elected he’ll come after our land steal it and sell it to his billionaire buddies and donors!!! At least I got my passport on 2018 just in case! 1st passport I’ve ever had and I got it for this EXACT reason!! Nanaya hullo I kana~ ✌🏼 & 🫶🏼 my friend! ❤from THE CHOCTAW NATION🪶

[@LynetteA68]

EXACTLY!!! See Rep Project 2025!!! Big brother YT censors keep deleting my long ass comments to your comment!! Let’s see if this one stays up!! Seems free speech is DYING!! Nanaya hullo I kana~ ✌🏼 & 🫶🏼 my friend! (In Choctaw) ❤from THE CHOCTAW NATION🪶

[@chrisgraham2904]

Exactly the type to be an architect of Gilead and hoping for a promotion to "Commander".

[@chrisgraham2904]

Did "Project 2025" steal of their ideas from Margaret Atwood?

[@davidbrear8642]

Michael Bray - a perfect example of the face of reason with the voice of insanity.

[@matshallstrom61]

Thanks Richard, you really expose the ideocracy in these people. What scares me is the evilness, the lack of compassion and humanity. PS He's actually hilariously stupid, but it's a too serious subject to be comedy, many gets hurt by these prophets when they get exploited in their cults.

[@mjwilliamsb2676]

What about the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'? If he thinks its okay to kill someone because they do something he disapproves of, that doesn't strike me as Christian at all....

[@AH-wr1ir]

Cognitive dissonance on an epic and frightening level.

[@johnniearc]

He doesn't believe any of it. He just needs to be seen as taking hard line so he can keep some followers.

[@rlstine4982]

Poor Dawkins, thats not nice to say about him... 🤣

If the word evil applies to anyone it applies to this man (Bray).

[@ivansanabria6633]

who let this guy out of prison?

[@Dex619]

I would love to see this evil man debate Sam Harris or Matt Dillahunty.

[@furryhippie]

Absolutely terrifying epistemology.

[@rolltru]

The real imbalance here is in education. Bray expresses very little other than dogma in trying to back up his beliefs.

[@millaflea]

For good people to do evil things it takes religion… that summarises it so well, Richard!

[@Shaara1]

Everyone is religious. Atheism is a belief system too. Specify when you say that.

[@bobwilkinson2008]

@@Shaara1 Wrong and wrong. Not everyone is religious. Atheism is not a belief system, it's simply not accepting other's belief in gods.

[@Shaara1]

@@bobwilkinson2008 Belief system can be built around anything. Not only God. Everyone believes in something. You too. Atheists usually put themselves into God's place. Or money, addictions etc. Anything that they worship more than a God and consumes their lives. They decide what's morally right or wrong, what's a sin and what isn't, who should live (IVF, contraception to select children) who can't( abortion, euthanasia). You don't know what religion means so you can't recognise it in real life. Satanists are religious too, they just believe in the evil, not in the good.

[@Matt13556]

@@Shaara1how can atheism which proposes no values or ideologies to follow, which ironically is defined as having no belief be a belief system ?

[@millaflea]

@@Shaara1 Think, before you speak, please. It’s the same when someone asks : what’s your fitness routine like? I do yoga, I do HIIT, I do cardio, jogging, resistance training, and someone else says I don’t train at all. Well you don’t train- this is your fitness routine!

[@frreinov]

When meeting this guy, be very sure to do it in a public place with plenty of witnesses...

[@nosexplease]

I find it deeply troubling that a man who appears so reasonable and obviously loves his 11 children (we are doing our duty!) cannot empathise with the children of the doctor who lost their loving father because of the actions of his friend. I also note he loves his comment about loving his twin children differently depending on their behaviour. Is he a theolog narcissist? One of the worst kind. Something sinister about his charm.

[@Steve-yx1xj]

you think he seems reasonable ?

[@2011littleguy]

I never heard anyone else say that if the child misbehaves, he loves him less. How disgusting. This 'man' does not know what love is. He 'conditions' love on how pleased he is with his child.

[@ritchie6162]

Wondering how much he’ll love his kids if any of them are queer/have an abortion/apostatize/commit adultery.

[@DomRoy-w7r]

He doesn't appear reasonable to me!

[@bernardleger8478]

Science vs delusion!

[@massimilianperetti7331]

Would you consider visiting Italy for an event? I feel our Nation, marked by the presence of the Vatican and institutional catholicism, would greatly benefit from your presence.

[@catch22michael]

It's unfathomable that there are people in the world like this, that are so removed from actually reality and Base all of thier actions and morals on such obvious nonsense.

[@Yxalitis]

So God's absolute and perfect words needed 'clarifying?'

[@Spock_Rogers]

These people are sick. The guy who killed Tiller had like 7 children. If they really care about children, they should start with raising and setting a good example for their own children. Disgusting hypocrites.

[@21dewsbury]

I'd rarely say it but this interview almosts seems unfair. The Reverend Bray is speaking like an uninformed, uneducated, teenager. He is clueless and not very bright.

[@21dewsbury]

What is going on in Richard's head.... he must be thinking that Rev Bray is a utter "gobshite" .... (That's an Irish term!)

[@lizzieh5284]

This guy doesn't even see the glaring contradictions in his arguments.

[@obnobn2345]

Its usually the people that say they are incapable of judgment that judge the most.

[@JerryMetal]

I wanted to like your comment but I never judge

[@martinrasmussen7754]

Reminds me of..."thief thinks everyone steals".

[@slalomsteve]

And we are supposed to respect this obvious mental case for his beliefs. Not me. He's just deluded.

[@Marylast-zb8re]

Protecting potential life by killing? Hypocrisy of religion in action.

[@JR-st3mp]

This man is actually a good representation of the mentality of the religious movement in the USA Today. Religion is toast!

[@TheSteveBoyd]

How is this Bray walking the streets? He's clearly an insane person.

[@Meekahel]

So that dude is ok with kings making arbitrary laws, but he is against a panel of judges making the same. What a dumb take.

[@PaulSkuta]

Bray struggles to express himself calmly and rationally on camera . It looks and sounds painful to him, But I’ll bet, no camera, his ideas flow forth easily and horrifyingly. That’s the real man.

[@robertbell2978]

Well, it’s pretty evident he doesn’t believe in the Constitution. Mr. Brey can take his bullshit to a religious country and get out of America.

[@AndrewWilsonStooshie]

He can't say how the family of the killed doctor would suffer but he can say how his friend's family suffered.

[@EpiicxFuziion]

BUT "god" was the hugest abortionist of all time.

[@spiritofMongan]

I dont think is about abortion but rather virtue signaling from a religious narcissist....The Doctor was an easy target.

[@nedleyolpal]

@@spiritofMongan either way what an arrogant shithead.

[@RealityMatters343]

Still is. Each and every miscarriage is an abortion by the "god." It could have just prevented a conception instead of planning it to occur and then planning for the fetus to die.

[@rogernichols1124]

QUOTE- "I'm satisfied intellectually". Does he know what "intellectually" means? I don't recognise anything he says as "intellectual ".

[@Antiorganizer]

Typical Christian con artistry: point out something we don't (yet) understand and claim that therefore, god done it. Instead of seeking solutions, they avoid and resist it. That's another example of how dishonest religious people are.

[@21dewsbury]

I take your point. But I would not think they are all dishonest - I think they are more self-deceiving.... self deception is underestimated!

[@obnobn2345]

No, that's pretty much their only point.

[@blupandax7902]

There is zero evidence of abiogenesis. That makes atheists the hypocrites here.

[@the_luggage]

'God of the gaps.'

[@rogernichols1124]

This guy is living evidence that religion warps the mind.

[@EpiicxFuziion]

I had two abortions when i was a teen. I wasnt a murderer, I was a scared child.

[@Lerian_V]

A scared child murderer if you want to be honest. That doesn’t mean you are as culpable as an adult with full knowledge and control of their actions.

[@jenniferzbarouskaya6543]

​@Lerian_V abortion is not and can never be murder. It's just not what murder is.

[@scaraboo3624]

I see 3 victims here. You and the two babies. Life is a tragedy. Sorry

[@MrManny075]

@@jenniferzbarouskaya6543 People who play with fire get burned for sure, If you can't do the time don't do the crime,

[@DanielCasasamperaGonzález]

A scared and murderous child. It is just a fact, murder is the intentional killing of an inocent human live. It is a tricky subject since the human is not yet very developed but it really feels wrong

[@shannonglover5291]

I feel so terrible for this dude's children. This is probably the most extreme I've seen.

[@aj_wuwei]

Okay ,here we have a psychopath talking decoding bible

[@mervcharles8365]

"...for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." That's such a poignant quote

[@robertcoane9167]

Michael Bray is way less than 'reverential' than he is a nutcase. And I found great relief from and freedom in losing gød. I AM a wholehearted ,full fledged, unshakable atheist.

[@warneraudio]

This is hard to watch. What a twisted and distorted world view.