Pogačar Hits Back At Claims He’s 'Greedy' + Soudal Car Crashes 😬 - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Final!

[@JustinEastmanMedia]

by far the best tour de france podcast this year, well done everyone

[@anotherscandinavian]

Escape Collective.

[@binford37]

Ya, have to agree. I'm new to Cade Media and have become a fan.

[@gabrielmazza7923]

Not even close, but nice effort

[@thefollandgnat]

​@@gabrielmazza7923 Yes, they lack a knowledge base/experience, but it's like a congenial chat among your mates who know a bit about pro cycling and the two main hosts are quite entertaining. Bruyneel's probably the best, along with Horner. Lanterne Rouge is knowledgeable, but his and Benji's commentary suffers from a lack of experience. Shame that Wiggo hasn't a channel as he was excellent on The Move. Thanks anyway, guys, been a lorra fun.

[@bikeomatic8005]

@@thefollandgnat agreed, they had a cycling clothes brand, but that doesn't make you an expert in pro peloton stuff, the podcast scene is bit bizarre, from this one, through amateurs and elite amateur raiders turned comentators, to greg lemond and wedu's convicted dopers everyone jumps on the train with something to say and presumably make few quid while doing so (the more controversial the better for audience engagement).

[@sunshinecycling]

You know who the last person was to take 6 stages in one Tour? Mark Cavendish - 2009. He was celebrated and considered unstoppable. Eddy Merckx won 525 races in his career and was nicknamed "The Cannibal" for it. He is called "The GOAT". Jonas said he would have done the same thing. I think the media is making this more than it is. Let 'em race.

[@onlyfineinclines]

Im vingegaard fan but pogacar is like an anime protagonist to me. Just going hard everytime just because thats his philosphy and he wants the hard route. Telling him to do otherwise is disrespectful imo

[@tommccafferty5591]

Eddy won 8 stages in a single Tour twice, 1970 and 1974. Two others have won 8 stages in a single Tour one time.

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

@@onlyfineinclines Going hard "everytime" is a philosophy? The critics are the ones with corrupt "philosophies" and lack any form of critical thinking whatsoever.

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

@@tommccafferty5591 Imagine how they will freak out if Pogacar breaks the world hour record (track event).

[@squngy0]

@@indonesiaamerica7050 I doubt he would be able to. The hour record is more suited for bigger cyclists, because W/kg is a lot less important.

[@morapelimokokomali7907]

Visma dismantling Pogacar at the Col du Granon would be my motivation if I was Pogacar. Nobody felt sorry for him back then, nobody said the strongest team ever, with Sepp Kuss, Wout van Aert and TWO GC guys (Jonas and Roglic) was too strong and to take it easy. In fact, Visma publicly said they'd crack him and no one had an issue with them winning all three grand tours. I'd be even more ruthless if I was Pog, based on that memory alone, I wouldn't even let them win a stage if possible!

[@Aidan-tu4un]

Pog didn’t want JV to win a stage and I bet that slip made him (and succeed) decide to destroy him in the last TT

[@miguelteixeira4134]

Facts

[@michelemeixner7604]

Right?!! Thats what i keep thinking about, & so when they bring this up about Poggi, it makes me crazy!! Jonas would have done the same if the tables were turned this year. Enough already. Thanks for this great discussion!

[@exmoorphotographer]

Oh no, back to weekly podcasts :( really loved these daily instalments, thank you for all the effort and keeping us all entertained

[@Mmalebogo]

The complaints about Pogacar being greedy are just double standards. The guy really went to do his best, and the form does not remain the same your whole life, so you use it when you can

[@soundninja99]

Exactly! He's making the races fun and exciting to watch. What's the alternative? Boring robotic sky style trains that bring him to cold calculated wins. I'd much rather have what we got this year. We can't have it both ways

[@Otto_Normalverbraucher]

UAE and Pogacar are the best in cycling at the moment and Nobody can fault them to go after the stage wins. But: UAE basically bought a super team with domestiques coming in 4th and 6th at this TDF. It really wasnt that exciting this year with only 3 real competitors with Vingegaard, Evenepoel and Roglic, all having major crashes before the tour. One can only hope that Visma and Red Bull ramp up their efforts or it will get boring very quickly. So Pogi, go win ten stages next time. It just isnt good for the sport in general. He is already the best cyclist in the world, how many more wins to rub it in?

[@Mmalebogo]

@@Otto_Normalverbraucher I agree that other teams need to up their game. The point system creates competition outside the traditional way we view cycling. From the beginning I didn’t see how most teams were going to challenge UAE, most of their riders had new coaches and improvements were visible from the start of the season, while other teams did not want to make changes Roglic really needs to start riding in the front of the peleton, not in the deep and dead centre, as he always gets caught up on crashes. No domestique can protect you there The most confusing team was INEOS, you just didn’t know what they wanted to achieve from the beginning; it was even difficult to figure out who the leader was Visma should not have brought in Jonas and Wout, they need good recovery. They had to opt for satellite riders to try to counter Pogacar’s attacks UAE’s strategy has been the same since the start of the season, I don’t know why others were arrogant enough to just trust in their own without counter measures Anyway, we really look forward to 2025, where hopefully, most top riders (and new heroes) would be fit

[@alpsalish]

​​@@Otto_NormalverbraucherI realize what you stated. Don't make it UAE's fault if teams don't show up is all. Yes, I read what you wrote. How is it not good for cycling though (JV and TP have shared TDF tour wins over the years)? I feel like there have regularly been super teams that dominate and cycling has only grown in the meantime. Winning on GC isn't the only means of success either. Honestly, what makes cycling so vastly exciting and interesting are all the battles going on and types of races (look at all the classifications). I hope you are at least consistent in your opinion about the classics too. I reckon you opinion is, "MVDP win it all, but you sir are bad for cycling?" I hope you aren't saying that. Cycling has many stars.

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

@@soundninja99 We need fake wrestling style management to decide who can win what prize. And longer press conferences with people throwing their bikes and bottles at each other.

[@Pik3tOgO]

watched every episode - was a great ride!

[@gavin18787]

Thanks for the PODcast guys, added a bit extra to this year's tour. Happy Holidays, well deserved!

[@ShawnIsBatman]

Thanks to the entire team for the efforts in putting this show together! This was a great addition to your show line-up and it was a great supplement to watching the TdF.

[@23Pixels]

Thank you Jimmi, Emily and guests for an amazing set of podcasts! They have certainly made my TDF even better, hope to see this again in the future! Enjoy your break over the coming weeks :)

[@colinogilvie4048]

Thanks to you all, huge effort.. very entertaining. Enjoy a well deserved break.

[@matthilsdon9710]

Well done to all of you for great coverage of the tour. Thanks for “chipping away” each day for us fans

[@twostate7822]

Who are the idiots who think Pagacar is "greedy" for winning so many stages??? This isn't a pre-school competition where kids get participation trophies. This is the highest level cycling in the world, and if other riders want to win stages, they have to ride better and faster. BTW, there were 15 stages that other other riders won. Do these idiots think that football, basketball, baseball, etc team who are guaranteed league championships at the end of the season throw games to bad teams to make them feel better??? Ridiculous.

[@glennoc8585]

They sort of do 2nd and 3rd are participation awards then we have all rest like most combative, best young rider etc which tbh is probably unnecessary.

[@twostate7822]

@@glennoc8585 Good point, but individual daily stage winners could also be considered participation awards. Do they hand out rewards in boxing matches after each round, or have a ceremony after each quarter in a football game, etc, etc??? Just have 1 overall award for winner of the race. And if the yellow jersey is also leading in king of the mountain, then the 2nd place king of the mountain rider wears the polka dot jersey, but that's in the rules. But, the point is, there are clear rules for the different awards, and nobody is "given" anything, they must be earned by performance (that's not considering internal team dynamics and overall race strategy)

[@AveragestCyclist]

Thank you so much to Cade Media for your excellent coverage of the Tour - it was thorough, and downright entertaining. Watching this channel grow has been quite an inspiration! Chapeau!

[@gedheaton1415]

Cracking series,big chuck up to all involved.Thanks for taking the time to do it for us, Emily and Jimmy have a great holiday.

[@dominikg8516]

cheers emily, jimmi and all of the co-hosts! loved watching the show every evening to recap the tour and all the antics taking place each stage! enjoy your well deserved holiday now 😁😁

[@Flyingredcactus]

As a French guy, I followed your daily show on the Tour as it was the Best. Thank you very much !

[@Cycleplayer117]

You guys have been great thanks

[@bessoceros]

Has everyone forgotten what Visma did to Pogacar last year? Champions race to win, no matter who they are off the bike. It's fine if you don't like him, as it's fine if you don't like Vingegaard, but to expect either of them to not be "greedy" is absurd. As long as the victory is achieved fairly and cleanly, it is always a question of "may the best man win." If that bothers you, then don't watch bike racing.

[@morapelimokokomali7907]

💯. I will never forget what Visma dud to Pog on Col du Granon! Nobody had a problem with Van Aert, Sepp Kuss and TWO GC guys ganging up on him (it was lauded as great teamwork). However they have an issue when the same guy they teamed up against figures out how to beat them?

[@donquique1]

Ducht medsia were toxhing jumbo for that behavior and sepp kuss agent was shopping him around. Reason why roglic is no longer with team because he was signed to 2025. ​@morapelimokokomali7907

[@Otto_Normalverbraucher]

@@bessoceros May the best man with the best team bought with unlimited ressources from oilmoney UAE, run by a teammanager who was deeply involved in doping, win every relevant stage. Sounds like a top sport to me. 😂

[@debbiea5737]

lol- the fact that anyone still is naive enough to believe that there is a clean high level athlete is more laughable (in all sports).

[@hammergod54]

@@morapelimokokomali7907 EXACTLY!! My how the memories are short lived. Jumbo destroyed and humiliated Pogacar last year. There were no gifts. Additionally, Jonas beat him by more time than in this years TDF. It's just plain ludicrous to hear all this crap of greed...such hypocrisy.

[@littlemrdrummer]

We definitely enjoyed the production, the podcast throughout TDF. Take the time off. Enjoy. We'll be here waiting. Thanks!!!

[@martinmahler7994]

Watched every single episode and enjoyed it very much. It became quickly a must watch direct after the extended highlights. Thank you for the show. Enjoy ur holidays!

[@MrStuartRimmer]

Thanks for the daily pods. Been great to listen and watch over the past 3 weeks. Managed to listen while on holiday which was nice. Enjoy your holiday..

[@sethmarcell1131]

Great coverage! well done team!

[@MrFahrenheit9]

I found you guys right after I watched the second season of netflix documentary, because I wanted to follow the tour. But you really cemented my love for the sport from the standpoint of a complete newbie. Shout out to producer Emily, you are my favourite!

[@antoniop1968]

How can you not like Pogi? He appears approachable and down to earth off the bike. I’ve seen no videos of him talking down his competitors nor avoiding his fans. He is currently the greatest man on a road bicycle and he should be celebrated.

[@paddyredmond3039]

A thoroughly good production throughout the TDF - well done enjoyed it and looked forward to watching it every evening. Have a great rest.

[@lindapilkington2687]

What an amazing series you’ve done Jimmi and Emily and your guests. A massive amount of work you’ve put it into this. Loved every minute. Hope you have a great well-earned holiday!

[@emrahyesil5475]

After all the stages, listening to the podcast made more valueable the tour. Thank you guys 🎉❤

[@IanHulme]

Loved this series guys! Can't have been easy so a huge thank you from all of your fans.

[@djrlloyd]

Thanks guys. I have really enjoyed these shows, my ‘go to’ after each stage and I very much appreciate all the time and hard work you put into making them. Enjoy your hols.

[@kalilebron007]

Super job, guys! The TdF was amazing and Enjoyed every minute of the podcast every morning while getting ready for work. See you soon!

[@Seiskid]

Thanks for the great commentary. Its been super fun watching you guys.

[@chrisduffill5248]

Well done for the round up so goooood . Many thanks

[@denouden92]

Thank you so much Cade Media! Definitely the best TDF podcast and made everyday exciting waiting for your podcast to release! Can’t wait for next year!

[@markjthomson]

Thanks guys - brilliant set of shows!

[@jamiesmith2314]

As it relates to other sports, no one ever made comments about Lionel Messi dominating for seasons or Tiger Woods and Roger Federer dominating for years in their respective sports. Tadej just dominated for this year’s tour. Next years tour might see Jonas, Remco or maybe someone else winning the tour! Doesn’t really seem rational!

[@Mr_Au_K]

Thx u guys, i really enjoyed the show. Looking forward to next year ❤

[@nickpatten5263]

Thanks for brilliant, refreshing and relevant commentary over the last three weeks. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Hope you can do the same for the Vuelta.

[@jonoharper4729]

Well done Jimmi, Emily and Cade Media, on a brilliant show throughout the TdF. Light hearted, fun, and with enough technical info and commentary to keep the newbies as well as the seasoned cyclist entertained and engaged. Thanks for a fabulous series. From Gold Coast, Australia 🇦🇺

[@acherfun]

Thank You…. Thank You…. Thank You!!! Very enjoyable. I looked forward to every day! Best wishes for your much deserved break.

[@wandering_pete]

First year of watching the Tour for me having rekindled my love of cycling. Just wanted to say thank you for doing these podcasts. They have been entertaining and informative, and felt very much like being down the pub with mates.

[@buzzman4860]

Emily, Jimmy, and guests, y'all have been fun to watch and listen to. Thanks for the TDF show.

[@TamagoHead]

That Pogacar won the Giro & now the tour makes the sport very interesting again. These younger riders and their teams are both strategic & aggressive, and I like the energy!

[@actact9899]

Thanks allot from Eritrea for covering tour de france 🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷

[@kimdecker8901]

I've really, REALLY enjoyed these dailies! Makes me look forward to the normal weeklies returning even more. You folks did a fantastic job covering the tour, and I hope you enjoy your well-earned holiday!

[@rejean2744]

thanks, I truly enjoyed your coverage of the TDF.

[@LordPopeye]

Brilliant coverage folks... hugely entertaining!! Chapeau.

[@diaroneal6969]

Anyone who has watched the doping stars of the tour over the last 20 years and who ever sat on a saddle and pushed themselves to the limits will realize Pogacar is taking some special morning cereal

[@redauwg911]

Eddie Merckx tested positive for doping three times in his career, and was expelled from the Giro d'Italia

[@bernhard1360]

it's been great to watch the pro show, thanks!

[@Ryanv7x]

Love these podcasts!! Thanks for the hard work!!!

[@Cycleplayer117]

Very observant 👏🏾 I notice intermarché was riding for their other sprinter when Bini suddenly won the stage 10:02

[@roberthealey6820]

Bravo, an awesome series!! Thank you ❤

[@PeterDavison-ff2po]

Really enjoyed the shows. Well done and thanks to everyone

[@randallmiller3842]

I’ve been waiting every day for your race coverage. Fantastic.

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

Enjoy your holidays!! You’ve done great, watched every episode

[@davidcooper2516]

Brilliant! Terrific commentary, good clean fun... Thanks a bunch!

[@brandoncox7672]

I was more excited for your episodes over Lanterne this year. Thanks for the fun!!

[@davidbraddon-mitchell3152]

You guys were more fun, but Lamterne is still the gold standard for analysis!

[@alpsalish]

​​@@davidbraddon-mitchell3152Gold standard for analysis? Is Horner too color commentary for you? I prefer his analysis even if I don't agree with every detail. Laterne shares a little bit more about a greater number of riders, but is less understanding of what is actually happening sometimes. Honestly, I do like both quite a bit and Cade as well.

[@miniguy1267]

By far the most engaging and enjoyable TDF coverage ever. It gave me the same buzz as Two Men 1 Bicycle daily updates. Now, what do I watch.. Please cover the Tour de Femme the same.

[@nalissa77]

Thanks for the daily podcasts. It was the best!

[@ReportReport-fz2pn]

This was a brilliant format. Thanks for providing this entertainment beyond the tour itself. Get well soon, and hope all is well,

[@josehansen13]

Loved The pro show! Thaks!! Awesome

[@billincolumbia]

Have a great holiday! The Tour coverage was great!

[@qcalsop]

Great job you guys. Loved the pod and way better than others Ive tuned into. Enjoy your holiday 👍

[@dirgsuite5546]

What worries me is that Tadej in the last time trial when he crosses the line, starts to celebrate immediately with his team mates. How can he not be out of breath? This means he did not go to his limit and could have driven faster. I can't wrap my head around that.

[@hipster-somme977]

You can mate….it’s called cheating.

[@dirgsuite5546]

@@hipster-somme977 I won't because I don't have direct proof. I can only tell what I see from the images. Too many on KZbin claim things without proof.

[@michaelboock9102]

I watched Tadej as he climb the hill on the tour he does not breath heavy ,, and his ,mouth is shut ,,, mind bogging ...,

[@markbabcock]

Great show. Can’t wait for next year. Thanks!

[@gabrielgostelidelacruz6235]

Thanks guys

[@chrisbrodroy1183]

Your daily podcast was a superb addition to the tour coverage and i enjoyed it very much!

[@jonpoon3896]

During his podium speech while shouting out Cav, Tadej said 36 instead of 35 stages. He’s definitely got the record in his sights

[@soundninja99]

He's 13 years younger than Cav and "only" has 20 left to beat the record. He knows it's a realistic goal to set for himself

[@AveragestCyclist]

I caught that too 🤔

[@doctorscoot]

Well done, very enjoyable thankyou

[@Wyliedawg]

GREAT work throughout the TDF folks, have a wonderful few weeks off, you've earned it and then some!!!

[@almostalwaysoutdoors2394]

Well done J and E, this has been brilliant for the last three weeks x

[@sannynur4589]

We love "Producer Emily!"

[@andymarks1049]

Great job. You made each day interesting and exciting. Have a nice holiday.

[@plhrph1]

Nice work guys, thanks.

[@akek76858]

Loved the show, cant wait for the next :D

[@ChinCycling]

The Pro Show was great, extremely fun and entertaining, you guys should do it for the Vuelta too

[@cb6866]

Thank you to all....be safe !!

[@mattbockbrader2140]

Don't forget about Simon Geschke. This is his final TdF as well.

[@josemanuelriveroandreusala9273]

Thank you for a great podcast!!!

[@andreemurray7039]

A big thank you for a great show

[@alstuart8801]

Great stuff guys

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

Enjoy your holiday, it's well earned. This was something new and very informative.

[@niggimatt]

Best part is in the interview he said rainbow looks good on MVDP so he's gotta take it off him 😂

[@edreilly6674]

Have a great holiday! You have really earned it!

Well done! I think we'll have an interesting tour next year(s) and I don't think that pog will be able to snatch so many stages at once. I mean, just imagine a tour with healthy and topfit Roglič, Pogačar, Vingegaard and Remco in the mix!

[@eduardoschneider2010]

Best cycling journalism, thanks guys 😊❤

[@markday1714]

the best coverage !!!

[@danielosman3134]

Congrats guys it’s been a great series

[@robjervis3898]

Great work guys!!! How about a Vuelta show in August?!

[@aliverbirduponmychest3055]

The level of athletic performance in cycling now does not compare to the days when guys won multiple Grand Tours in the same season! I am really struggling to believe in this. Bernal announced his performance numbers are better now than when he won the TDF! This sport has always been horses for courses, great climbers, great sprinters, great TT guys now we have riders who dominate in all disciplines! Does anybody not find that strange? I just find it difficult to believe an athlete could maintain peak level performance for months on end, there is a reason training is tailored to peak for an event but we are seeing guys maintaining peak performance levels for months on end? I really hope I am wrong but i am really struggling to believe what we are seeing here!!

[@jpwarg]

This was the only way I followed TDF. Cheers to crew&guests

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

Great podcast, thank you very much. 👍

[@steffenhiklev904]

Well done! Good entertainment 🚴

[@jcap1552]

Ive watched bike racing for 30 years. In that time, Ive seen many exceptional performances. Every single one has turned out to be tainted. We will see over the next few years how this one turns out!

[@PeasyFC]

No way that was clean unless AI has bred a superhuman. Only history will tell…..

[@Horus-Lupercal]

All pros are doped, they need to separate leagues by tested and non. This's what they do in powerlifting and bodybuilding.

[@jazbec]

So... you were not watching in the froom era? or what?

[@jcap1552]

@@jazbec Over the last 30 years includes 10 years ago.

[@jazbec]

@@jcap1552 you aint the sharpest crayon in the box a

[@gavinsmith1176]

Love the Wild Ones pods thanks guys. Nothing about Carbon Monoxide yet? Do you have a subs to Escape Collective?

[@soundninja99]

I was with Jimmi on the TT. I was hoping for an exciting final week TT like we got between Roglic and Pogi in 2020. In the end it just ended up being a predictable stage after the podium was solidified in the mountains. Thank you for keeping up the daily podcasts! They've been amazing to follow, and refreshing in an age of overly technical or pretentions (looking at you Armstrong) race commentary. You bring the human element

[@RoyHughes-tg9hh]

Excellent work chaps and lady. Most entertaining coverage trophy 🏆 👏 👌 ❤

[@TESTA-CC]

Cheers Cade Media ✅✅✅

[@richardacerra2975]

Let's remember that Jonas attacked his own GC in last year's Vuelta. I also don't recall Jonas slowing down when Tadej bonked in the previous year's TDF.

[@donquique1]

But he waited for him after pogue fell. Do you think pogue woukd do the same?

[@averyharebin3343]

Thank you

[@tonyh1859]

It was lovely, have a nice holiday!