Point in Line Compilation - Foil Fencing Highlights

[@josephkerr6963]

This must have taken a lot of time to find all these clips, much respect to you for making this. There's a L8 bout from the 2015 World Championships between Cadot and Akhmatkhuzin where there's about 7 lines scored against Cadot

[@OlympicFoil]

Thanks! I must have watched 100 bouts to find them all haha. Just watched the Cadot - Akhmatkhuzin bout, it's amazing. Perhaps once the season starts again a point in line Part 2 could be possible :)

[@OlympicFoil]

Thanks again for linking me the Akhmatkhuzin Cadot bout, I've included it in a new part 2

[@OlympicFoil]

If Avola and Mepstead didn't exist this thing would have been impossible to make, they are at least 50% of this by themselves

[@t.i.p.s.official7562]

Including Richard Kruse

[@garchompdude]

I go to the same club and Mepstead and you’d best believe he does line all the time on his poor club mates

[@barneybyron2094]

A quick refereeing question, perhaps you can help. If a fencer attacks but falls short but remains with their point in line, do they keep priority? Thank you!

[@OlympicFoil]

The impoertant thing is that the point in line is established for a while. If they hold the line for a few seconds after falling short, and the opponent doesn't do anything about it, the line is pretty valid. If they put it out but the opponent just hits them immediately after falling short then it's unlikely to be called 🙂

[@barneybyron2094]

@@OlympicFoil Thank you, that's very useful :)

[@OlympicFoil]

@@barneybyron2094 no problemo!

[@garchompdude]

I feel like getting a point in line touch in Cadot is just a rite of passage for fencers

[@OlympicFoil]

Poor Cadot lol he does get hit with it A LOT

[@garchompdude]

Olympic Foil it’s the inherent risk of his style

[@OlympicFoil]

Kinda big brain, if you had to chose one move to be weak too, PiL is the choice since it's rare and hard to do. Bet loads of fencers who fence Cadot don't think of PiL, or the don't have the guts to pull it off if they do think of it.

[@garchompdude]

Olympic Foil Jeremy Cadot just feels like every modern aspect of fencing taken to its logical extreme. From his insane prep to his parries. Almost fitting his weakness is one of the most extremely controversial aspects of the sport

[@OlympicFoil]

@@garchompdude Imagine fencing him without point in line!

[@alienworm1999]

epeeist here: wth is point in line and why does it count even when they're backing up

[@bryanh5524]

Well coming from a fairly mediocre saberist, the point in line is when you stick your sword out so that your shoulder, elbow, hand, and tip of blade is one line. However, it has to be held in position for 2 counts, initiated before the opponent's attack, and if you break the line, you lose priority. This includes if you beat it. It's super risky to use tho because many refs will ignore it and call it the attack in favour of the opponent. I hope this helps

[@christianalbertjahns2577]

Point-in-line is when you keep your arm straight threatening opponent's target area. This gives you the priority even though you move backwards. To break the line, the attacker needs to deflect the defender's blade to retake the priority. Point-in-line calls, however, is quite inconsistent that some referees ignore it and give the touch to the attacker. One thing to note: in sabre, for the point-in-line to count, the defender needs to hit with the tip of the blade (and obviously in foil too since every touch is made with the tip)