The Gang talks about Davey and Mac Callander / Hidden Dialogue / Red Dead Redemption 2

[@dtrfilms___9536]

Sean: miss me? Everyone: I miss them callander boys

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

@Thundercracker YT - Accurate.

[@citizenwayne9800]

They were something else

[@leonnieuwesteeg7681]

Me: I miss Lenny

[@gtrman12887]

I woulda said "with every bullet so far..." (if you know where thats from)

[@dtrfilms___9536]

It's been 9 months and I got 1k wow

[@sabbagels]

Things we learn about the Callander boys: 1. They was somethin' else. 2. It's a real shame.

[@zerosorigin8387]

3. Mac was heartless but had a heart (according to Bill)

[@sloanbassstuff7246]

@@zerosorigin8387 4. They was a liability

[@sloanbassstuff7246]

@悪Aiiko Yous a busta! Straight up!

[@momenshakerhameed9362]

They were also some viscous and vindictive bastards and that is what they’re ever gonna be according to Charles.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@momenshakerhameed9362 Thought Lenny said that

[@oscarhaydenperditionbound1195]

I love how Bill was genuinely a pretty good guy (albeit insecure) in this. Shows that Micah was the only one who was a true psychopath

[@HalstenSnowborn]

He comes across as sort of the loveable oaf of the gang, albeit being highly insecure about other people's perceptions of him. He has his faults and can be a real dick at times, but he's kinda endearing in his own way, unlike Micah who's just a straight up vicious snake bastard. It's a shame to see how the breakup of the gang has clearly had a seriously negative impact upon Bill's mental state as of RDR1

[@rezeren5326]

Beat up 20 sailor boys, though

[@walkingwhisperer]

In the beginning it seemed he took pleasure in bullying Keiran, but eventually wanted to become friends and was deeply impacted by his death.

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

@Oscar Hayden (Perdition Bound) - Agreed. It was weird, in the first Redemption, Bill came off as an ignorant, but ruthless and a psychopath, but in the second Redemption, he comes across as a loveable idiot.

[@65firered]

@Louis Cypher Considering how he once stole from that very box and was caught by Hosea, I can understand his caution.

[@jermainecloetejki57]

Lenny at poker: we cant speak ill of the dead Lenny with Sean: They were a liability

[@Al_3abbas]

"Poker builds character" ~Davey Callander

[@Lolpy.]

Perhaps canonically Lenny only said that after speaking with Sean. He was like “Damn maybe speaking bad about the dead is a bad thing.” My brain is ascending.

[@Winabagel23]

5:07 Arthur: "They was liabilities, but I still miss em 😔" *Turns his head* "LENNAAAY! 😀"

[@sjagkid]

Lenny was his best friend.

[@luke8801]

Charles was his best friend, Lenny was like a son to him. John was his brother, and Sean was like an annoying little brother. Hosea was his father.

[@waltersobchak4565]

Arthur was jealous of Mac. Facts.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@luke8801 Lenny was more like a little brother

[@navax1468]

@@waltersobchak4565 wut

[@abm9056]

“Heartless son of a bi**h, but he had a heart.” The kind of description that would fit a protagonist.

[@07Spelar]

I wasn't heartless i just had some anger issues

[@charliedelta6382]

Kind of like the description of arthur in the epilouge

[@nolanbronchitis5737]

Mac'd be the perfect protagonist for rdr3

[@arkguy5103]

Yeah it sums up the "Redemption" part

[@stewartzplayz1271]

In my opinion Davey or Mac would both be perfect protagonists for rdr3 they're not talked about alot even when they are they don't go into too much detail they're stories and reasons and how they joined the gang are left open-ended maybe on purpose so they can lay the grounds for rdr3 like in rdr1 you were given bits of information about Dutch Bill and Javier but not they're full stories but in rdr2 it delves much deeper so maybe in rdr3 we could see the callander boys story. I know we don't know them but how the gang talks about them I like to think that Mac was sortve a gentle giant like Bill said he was heartless but had a heart and I like to think Davey was much more like Sean because in the legendary grizzly mission in chapter 2 hosea and Arthur talk about how Davey was a partier and sort of a hothead much like Sean in my opinion I would love to see Mac as a protagonist we also don't know what he looks like so thats another point. Rockstar lays the ground for this character with bits and pieces of information but you don't get the full story till the next installment in the series. Alright that's all from me on that subject.

[@xSpazx7]

Never even met Davey, Mac, or Jenny and we miss them. What incredible dynamics rockstar is capable of with emotions.

[@AbysmalRandomn3ss]

I definitely missed them, but that’s because I felt like I was invested in the whole gang. Hearing only small bits of their personalities and how it impacted most of the gang members it made me want to actually know them more than these small pieces of dialogue

[@gustavogonzalez7939]

@IG: confused_melo For FACTS #Ginga Did u mean white*?

[@thebossgames4314]

@IG: confused_melo For FACTS #Ginga no wtf fuck that that's just dumb

[@thekeyboardguy3667]

@Jayden Jaco yeah we see him, but we don't met them, we don't even hear his voice.

[@Football_fan098]

I think we met davey in the beginning

[@loganmalough2379]

If only rockstar games can make a dlc about the blackwater massacre and Dave and Jenny.

[@deathitself6985]

Story dlc ftw

[@0dot9]

I’d rather they make a whole prequel that ends with the Blackwater job. For a dlc, Undead Nightmare 2 would be nice.

[@cosmicxspidey2850]

Vice.01 would be awesome if Rockstar read your comment. The idea is amazing!

[@espada6002]

Maybe rdr 3 we can play as Mac or Davey

[@salgrrez]

Cyber Sparkle I was thinking the same thing, we can play as Mac and he probably saves Author then we end as Author like John

[@eccentricwisdom9971]

Hearing how they talk about the Callander boys, makes me think that they will definitely be a protagonist in the future.

[@ridermanyt8029]

I'm guessing it is

[@MohammedMahdi8005]

My thought exactly, that's how John and Charles talked about Arthur after he was dead and now they talk about both of them like that. I really wanna see how that would look like

[@Football_fan098]

yeah it will be interesting if we can play as davey and mac

[@eccentricwisdom9971]

@@Football_fan098 It will probably be the brother we didn't see. This is so Rockstar has all the room to still cast the voice actor and make deciding choices on his appearance.

[@josh_the_alien]

@@eccentricwisdom9971 I would love it if they were twins

[@woahwhatarebeans837]

Arthur: you ok? Bill: H E L L O

[@somedude6833]

He’s having a Hell-o a bad time.

[@trollege9618]

@@somedude6833 damn pun

[@chosen9010]

@@somedude6833 damn pun

[@Zz0Z79]

Where is the PANTAFOLA?

[@YodatheHobbit]

Bill's always so much more friendly when he's not on a mission with you or the gang. At camp he's almost jolly sometimes.

[@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace]

I actually really love Bill, he just needed some love...

[@SirDieALot666]

@@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace some manly gay love

[@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace]

@@SirDieALot666 I mean he was sent to the MEGA GAY ZONE

[@romella_karmey]

@@SirDieALot666 Arthur should have given him at least a night..

[@SirDieALot666]

@@romella_karmey you mean Kieran?

[@Evan-nw5ro]

I want to experience every last detail of this game, but there’s so much that I never will

[@YB-sm4we]

There are shrinking horse balls

On god I never knew theres like 50 side missions u have to find by yoself there hella conversation I the camp.thts funny asf!! Never any of this

[@Blackkey034]

Evan why not?

[@mybestfriendisaduck7992]

@@Blackkey034 because theres so much you can miss.

[@justanuff]

@@YB-sm4we i had suspected but didn't wish to stare at a pair of horse's balls to confirm

[@ronologic3540]

Ok so here’s what we know about mac: 1. Died in a final last stand in black water, or escaped black water and died later either due to wounds or due to the pinkertons catching up to him, the details aren’t clear but I think the final last stand in black water is the most likely way for mac to go 2. He was close with bill, Sean, hosea, davey, Dutch, uncle, and Arthur 3. He beats up 15 sailors 4. He was a heartless man, but he had a heart 5. Mac was known as a good man, at least from bill 6. He was fun to rob with 7. Karen liked to tease the callander boys 8. They were a liability

[@mattiatf2]

Charles and Lenny dislike them for their Racism

[@maccallander603]

I'm alive!

[@crywlf9103]

According to cut content, it was Mac who gave Arthur his coat and his horse to get away from Blackwater after Arthur’s horse Boadicea had died in the fighting.

[@hellotherehru4309]

@@crywlf9103 I’ve heard of that. Would be really interesting to see that if they ever make rdr3

[@achilles4655]

100% a setup for red dead 3

[@elultimocaido7745]

0:56 javier says you are already death kieran in spanish jajajaja

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

lol

[@donvergas4855]

And that was in a soft voice. It would only sound like a threat if he yelled it to Kieran... This...? This was an unavoidable statement. R.I.P., Kieran.

[@Red_Vega]

*dead

[@mrschizo2837]

Javier: Ya estás muerto. Kieran: *_Qué?_*

[@reikojimenez7669]

Omae wa mou shindeiru kieran! :V

[@Gabriel-rp2pc]

Three dlc’s this game should have: - Arthur’s youth - Uncle’s youth - Callander boys story

[@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace]

Don’t take it from me but we already got a game based on uncle’s youth ;)

[@itsshrimp91]

@@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace Uncle is NOT Red Harlow.

[@alexcross7583]

Ye I would love to see them Callander boys

[@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace]

@@itsshrimp91 Hehe who said that, no of course he isn’t!

[@offlinemedia1784]

@@itsshrimp91but are we 1,000% sure, I mean, it’s pretty convincing

[@freebird264]

I love the comparison between the Callander boys and Micah. All three were vicious gunmen who could shoot up a whole town for the gang, but whilst nobody had any genuine love for Micah, everybody talked about the Callanders and missed them after they died.

[@BenDaGoat]

Charles and Lenny both didn't like them. They might have been racist.

[@WforBogart]

I disagree. Micah shot up a whole town for himself (to get his guns back). Not denying that the Callander boys could have been as vicious as Micah, but they were actually loyal to the gang, hence why most gang members spoke about them with grief and remembrance.

[@Klausinator451]

2:29 that sounds like a fun mission

[@moustacheguy3404]

That ain't nothing. Everybody knows them navy boys can't fight

[@rodrign007]

@@moustacheguy3404 that’s why they float

[@moustacheguy3404]

@@rodrign007 oh, that so?

[@rodrign007]

@@moustacheguy3404 sure. That ain’t nothing. I once beat up twenty

[@francob8290]

@@rodrign007 Okay......

[@walkmanboi465]

I wanna know more about Mac, Davey and Jenny

[@Jim-zl2si]

Walkmanboi wait till RDR3

[@xvxvcaspervxvx]

I was going to say...RDR3 would most likely have them as the playable protagonists...since R* likes to kill off their protagonists....it also coincides with the start of RDR2 and their deaths lead into playing as Arthur.

[@KHOBB99.1]

@@xvxvcaspervxvx yeah and the prologue is them in the snow and nothing goes wrong until you play rdr2 again. But I dont see rockstar doing that.

[@boah1668]

Maybe in RDR 3 we will play as Davey and the story will end with his death but what after that?

[@gettheleadoutaerosmith]

"RDR3"

[@croweman6515]

The way they talk about Mac, I'd bet my last dollar that the RDR3 playable character is gonna be him. Whenever the game comes out that is. Know What I Mean?

[@heaven22-_-22]

The way the gang talks about them, especially about Mac, is the perfect set up for a pre-prequel, it would start when the Callender boys first met Dutch and join the gang, then they could add the special gang activities "Campfire story" where Hosea could be telling stories about the gang like how him and Dutch met, or when they met Arthur and John, and those could be unique activities so if you lose them, there wouldn't be another opportunity to play them. And they main story would end with the Blackwater massacre.

[@obiden5286]

My theory is the game will out around 2030

[@gencfgchm7021]

Yes because Davey model was shown, but Mac model never shown maybe because he's customizable maybe??

[@barkovisthegoat5822]

it’s either that or when john leaves the gang for a year

[@JustMe-cs9ku]

100 percent also I thought it was weird to have two dead brothers before the game began if one was dead I’d understand but not two

[@alenrakanovic3332]

“We try to save each other, when we can.” What a lie Dutch shows how much he’s changed

[@romanbellic7753]

He was gonna leave john to hang and arthur to be killed by soilders never really loved them like he said just a good actor who was evil deep down

[@yme_7185]

Do a lemonade Or a man who’s changed.

[@elmigo_]

The death of the gang members along the story (mostly Hosea) made him a real changed man

[@mustachecontroller1096]

@alen rakanovic your wrong he went insane after that trolley business in saint denis hitting his and losing hosea made him went insane chapter two Dutch would have never listened to Micah that must or trust him that much

[@elmigo_]

@@mustachecontroller1096 yeah thats it but he also started to listen to Micah because Arthur and John didnt want that life anymore

[@greywolfsamurai2121]

At 4:05 Lenny said “cant speak ill of the dead” and everyone at that tables death scene ran through my head

[@immew8249]

That was sean

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

Like AC 4 BIack Flag ending when Edward Kenway looks at the table.

[@junehollybell5977]

I think Lenny, Hosea ,Shaun and Keiran would have all joined Arthur against Dutch which is why they were killed off

[@johntavevo673]

June Hollybell if Charles and Sadie were there they would side with Arthur too.

[@sheikhsafwan1191]

June Hollybell Don’t think Sean or Lenny would because both were loyal,if Javier died as well we would have said the same thing but he sided with Dutch

[@dinohello6573]

@@sheikhsafwan1191 Lenny and Sean were Arthurs best friends tho, Arthur said Sean was like a little brother to him

[@sheikhsafwan1191]

Dino Hello He was also very close with Javier and Bill and don’t forget Sean said Dutch took him and fed him when he has hungry for 3 days,even Bill and Javier said when they met Dutch he fed as they had nothing and Sean wasn’t some one smart who would think Dutch was wrong and Lenny I am not sure about,could be anything which we will never know

[@dinohello6573]

@@sheikhsafwan1191 Well Sean and Lenny would most probably side with Arthur after Dutch went crazy

[@johndasalty111]

I can see it now, a prequel to Read Dead 2 where we live the life of Mac Callander, in a time well before Micah joins the gang. It would show characters like Davey and Jenny, and we'd get to see more of Sean, in his prime state before being captured. We would also get to finally see what truly went down on 'that boat' and the Blackwater Massacre.

[@dusty2080]

It would be a good closer, we'd finally get to see what really went on (which could ruin some of the mystery and theme however, I guess) and get another section of the cycle of empires down (in this case the empire being the Van Der Linde gang), showing the height and stable period of the Van Der Linde gang, before their gradual decline, and eventual collapse and wiping up. Climax would likely be the botched robbery on the Riverboat, and Mac getting wounded and trying to escape with Sean, only for them to get wounded. Mac has a hard few weeks on the run and depending on honor, would either be tortured and killed by Agent Milton in the closing, or manage to get away, likely meeting his end by some other fate, maybe in his possible redemption (guarding a town he previously robbed blind or something, but due to his injuries from Blackwater worsening without treatment, he can't keep up and dies defending the town or something)

[@someweirdo4577]

You never know? Mac could be alive? And agent Milton was just trying to scare Arthur and Jack. Unlikely but you never know?!

[@obiden5286]

@@someweirdo4577 I think mac died, him and Aurther were pinned down by the Pinkertons and aurthers horse bodeicia was killed so mac gave his horse to Aurther and he escaped and mac held off the Pinkertons, theres cut dialogue where he tells ducth all of this after he gives Dutch his pipe

[@crazie0239]

But how would that game end and how will you be able to free roam at the end of the game because right after the black mater massacre mac is captured and Davey dies

[@agx8447]

Jenny joined around the same time as Micah so if we got to see Jenny we’d have to put up with Micah as well unfortunately

[@theinfinity2988]

I would like to learn more about them It’s also weird seeing Bill miss them

[@bigstanky2037]

oh god here she comes dont be akward dont be akward me: 3:32

[@dravenocklost4253]

That's funny lol

[@justanuff]

You made me laugh, i shall contribute one like and one comment good sir, May your stank be the biggest.

[@Lupo32]

(Take this with a grain of salt ) When Arthur talks to Dutch while he’s smoking in Horseshoe Overlook, your given an Item Quest to bring Dutch a pipe. In the official game you give it to him and that’s it. What was cut was that when you give it to him. Dutch asks how Arthur was able to escape the commotion and regroup with the others at the northern Blackwater border. Arthur sadly admits that when Boadicea ( his previous horse ) has been shot in a gunfight, he was pinned with Mac. What Mac did was that he let Arthur take his own horse while he holds the Pinkertons off, believing that they both won’t have time to escape and Mac decided to be the distraction. Arthur apparently would never tell anyone else this, and it’s interesting how this was cut out of the game, plus the extra dialogue that the Gunslinger Coat used to be Mac’s, Arthur would say that in another conversation cut-out that he would’ve had with Hosea

[@cadestockman5731]

I can see them having cut that out so we can have a big reveal at the end of red dead 3 that after we’ve grown to love and mourn mac as he’s dying he gives his coat to Arthur and holds the Pinkertons off so he can escape to rdr2. My god what an ending to a game I know nothing about

[@Lupo32]

@@cadestockman5731 Basically a repete of rdr 1 ending . I got that from a website called amino apps so I don't know how true it is hence the ( take this with a grain of salt ). It is said in game while arthur took Jack fishing that andrew milton interrogated a dying mac callandar Then killed him sort of a mercy killing . Every thing comes full circle.

[@ACE_1923]

That’s exactly how the game could end Arthur and John running away arthur gives him his hat and holds off the Pinkertons then well we know the rest I have a feeling in rdr3 we will play as mac or at least see him

[@dusty2080]

So we saw Davey on screen (albeit briefly) and he died of his wounds from Blackwater. I'd love to see some sort of content involving Mac and his time on the run while wounded, before getting caught. Read also that apparently there were cut dialogue lines specifying that the Gunslinger coat of Arthur's originally belonged to Mac, and that Arthur was supposed to have escaped from Blackwater by Mac holding off Pinkerton agents so he could get away on foot after his horse was killed. Which is interesting but who knows of that will be included

[@ronologic3540]

Is there a link to these voice lines?

[@dusty2080]

@@ronologic3540 I wish I could get you one, but I think the website I found this on was not the most reliable of sources

[@ONeill01]

Given the ending of rdr2 it would make sense to pass on the buck from Mac to Arthur, as it did for Arthur to John

[@MegaJacko4]

I really wish we got to meet the Callander brothers. They seemed like alot of fun. The things we know are 1. They were violent and reckless 2. They were amoung the best gunmen 3. They never shut up 4. One loved to fight, the other loved to drink 5. They probably hated Micah as much as Arthur did.

[@thormux7097]

They're ruthless but they had a heart, I bet the Callander brothers wouldn't dare to hurt a child, unlike Micah

[@Dom_510]

Mac Calendar is going to be the protagonist of RDR3.

[@TheEngieCat]

I think the same! Or maybe we'll play as both Davy and Mac in rdr3. But i woud love another game with Arthur tho...

[@HeyImSupercoo]

He can't be you realise the point of RDR is that main protagonist gets redeemed and dies in the end. Mac and davey did not have any redemption they simply died. So no rockstar is gonna have to create a new story.

[@kene301187]

@@HeyImSupercoo red dead (*Insert other word here)

[@ryanelkadi3196]

Dutch Van Der Linde we don’t know 100% if mac died, sure he got shot pretty bad but milton might have lied about him being shot to death to piss off Arthur. Mac could have possibly ran off after that

[@user-vp6cq4sv3d]

@Arthur Morgan You are daft. The second game is called what it is because of marketing.

[@austin7095]

Watching this just makes me so excited for the next red dead, to learn about the Callander boys, so far mac seems like a cool guy, my bet is on him being the next protagonist. Even though the next game wont be out for years its still fun to think about

[@fiammanerapatrick3215]

From the way they talk about him, he was ruthless. Almost like Micah, but doesn't go through with his threat. If i remember correctly he threatened to kill a whole town while drunk.

[@bobbys1308]

@@fiammanerapatrick3215 arthur was ruthless too

[@fiammanerapatrick3215]

@@bobbys1308 Yes but the way they describe them was ruthless ruthless. Arthur had a heart, but the way they described them was just reckless.

[@bobbys1308]

@@fiammanerapatrick3215 That's not true, Bill literally says "heartless son of a bitch, but he had a heart, if that makes sense". Did you even watch the video?

[@fiammanerapatrick3215]

@@bobbys1308 Alright then, but it still seems like they were pretty reckless. I guess they could be like Arthur though.

[@connor971]

I want to see an alternative ending where all the gang members survive and go to tahiti to retire and see how they interact with each other

[@jrobotdas209]

Connor in charge that’d be geeky bro

[@Ginnster]

But then rdr1 would make no sense

[@connor971]

@@jrobotdas209 I don't care the chemistry between the gang was every positive word

[@connor971]

@@Ginnster rdr1 can take place in tahiti were the pinkerton find em in tahiti and they all escape to timbuktu

[@cgkik]

Maybe in a “alternate dlc”

[@RustCohle072]

"The group talks about the protagonist from RDR 3 and the other Callander brother" 😏

[@MrBlack252]

Who's that? The Protagonist in RDR3 (if there will ever be one I just think they're gonna keep adding things to RDR2 because of how good it looks and how long it took to make.) but the protagonist in RDR3 will be Young Hosea

[@la912]

Wow, very good hint

[@RustCohle072]

@@MrBlack252 Mac or Davey Callander. I think we might see a third Red Dead within 10 years. Playing as Hosea would be great, and I approve, but if they want the potential trilogy to be more poetic, the protagonist needs to die at the end. Playing as Arthur in the epilogue would be so cool. They may just go further back in time and have us play as a new character we never heard of because the gang heads straight to Colter after the botched Blackwater job.

[@MrBlack252]

@@RustCohle072 yeah but think about it, if you play as one of the Callander boys you know their fates. So it restricts you from investing in that character because you know they die. Unlike when we all first played as Arthur we knew he wasn't in or mentioned in RDR1 but we didn't know what was going to happen to him. There was a while where before he got TB I actually thought Arthur was gonna make it out with Mary

[@MrBlack252]

@@Texai-ig2kw yeah Hosea was gonna get hanged but then a mysterious gunman shot the noose and Hosea escaped. There is a rumor that the mysterious gunman that saved Hosea was Red Harlow

[@alexcross7583]

Can we all agree that it would be cool to see them callander boys online i really want to see them aspectally mac he sounds like a bad ass

[@sauce6746]

5:19 "LENNEEEYYY" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nicholasrangel7099]

In “Exit pursued by a bruised ego”, Hosea mentions Mac threatening to kill the whole town of Deer Creek. I have a strong feeling that when rdr3 comes out, we will be playing as Mac for the whole story, and in that mission we do exactly as Hosea says what happened to the town. The mission will be called “Outside a building, inside a town.” I bet it will be called that

[@spambamkeija634]

I'll come back for this comment in ten years

[@nicolasmorales5955]

@@spambamkeija634 same.

[@spambamkeija634]

@@nicolasmorales5955 Bet bro

[@immew8249]

Let me know if you from 2028

[@IconicMisfortune]

@@spambamkeija634 I will as well

[@mnmfreak502]

These callendar boys need a redemption story. They opened up the East part of the map. Time to open the west and finally see the ferry job. Epilogue play as Arthur. I need more from these characters.

[@Chitenho1]

Ready guys, we’re playing Mac Callahan in rdr3. He sacrificed himself so the gang can escape.

[@ridermanyt8029]

I'm guessing, you will play as Arthur in the epilogue

[@ghostwolf94]

@@ridermanyt8029 but after Blackwater massacre rdr2 starts maybe I could see rockstar to pull it of of us playing Arthur if they just don't do a prequel and just let us free roam

[@dr.inspector2403]

​@@ghostwolf94 Nah rdr3 will be set with the war. I think that'd be a interesting change n only rockstar could pull it off. Get flashbacks of the blackwater scene from Mac and get redeemed since Mac is most likely racist and have a crisis about his brother

[@Mandalorian_Goblinslayer]

Rest In Peace Mac, Davey & Jenny😢😢they will be missed

[@Zz0Z79]

Well all the gang are enjoying the hell hell

[@Zz0Z79]

But my boy REVREND SWANSON

[@ionutciobotaru7341]

😭😭

[@garrysmith1029]

I'm glad the internet haven't found all the secrets

[@999dunkins]

5:17 LAENNEEEEEEEEHH MAH BOOOOOOAH

[@darthmaul3090]

Man if only the callandar boys were alive Imagine how cool...

[@immew8249]

I ain’t gonna lie when bill called him heartless but had a heart that was the same thing Mickey said about Arthur to John “crazy guy but he had a heart” there’s no doubt in my mind that Mac callander is the next protagonist for red dead redemption 3

[@joshuaaragon7110]

I hope we get a prequel to the prequel of Dutch Van Der Linde and the Wild West days.

[@TheEngieCat]

I really hope so too! It will be awasome!

[@manojk1811]

We saw Davey Callander, we saw jenny in Arthur's journal, but we never saw Mac Callander. If RDR3 happens i think we'll get to play as Mac. Maybe Milton lied about Mac.

[@nirmal2811]

Sean: *well stinky feet Morgan saved me* Morgan: *literally in front of him* 🤔

[@aphia5559]

Im pretty sure rdr3's protagonist will be mac

[@faisalchaudhry5281]

yeah

[@Mandalorian_Goblinslayer]

I have a feeling when the DLC will come out, we will feel very sad for Mac, Davey and Jenny’s death and that massacre in Blackwater will be in the final mission

[@rakanel-45]

Mr. Mayhem yeah

[@salgrrez]

I would be better if Rockstar made it in rdr3 instead of a dlc

[@Mandalorian_Goblinslayer]

Salgado yeah properly, I don’t know but maybe

[@_Daniel_Plainview]

It will not come out, at least not Blackwater DLC. It's been a year since the game came out and no leaks or trailers or anything. Probably nothing ain't coming

[@IV_97]

@@_Daniel_Plainview Would take longer than a year to make a DLC

[@ryantudor9230]

This is why I think in RDR3, we'll be playing as Mac or Davy, most likely Mac because we never got see him, I also think RDR3 will end with Macs death and we the player will get to see how it happened.

[@theone-n-only47]

Arthur: yeah we’re gonna miss them... Also Arthur: Lenny!

[@corvuszeta6389]

I’m gonna bet in RDR3, you play as Mac. Then Arthur in the epilogue.

[@fiammanerapatrick3215]

I feel like the main story will probably be building the van der linde gang. Epilogue might be Blackwater.

[@anonymousstill9276]

​@@fiammanerapatrick3215 we'll not immediately blackwater. For epilogues maybe they would tease their biggest score yet...... Blackwater.

[@MrDoom885]

I think Mac Callander might be the main character of RDR3.

[@Naozane_]

No one notice how much Arthur looks first worried when Milton talked about Mac, then got really mad. I feel like he never got that mad even at Sean or Lenny's death. But for Mac, he was angry af Maybe Arthur had a special relationship with him ?

[@stefanosiclari]

I doubt this, there's interaction with Charles that shows Arthur agreeing with him about the Callanders being vicious bastarda and nothing more than that. I guess he was just pissed knowing the Pinkertons had killed one more

[@ghostwolf94]

@@stefanosiclari not true

[@DuncanUdaho67]

Sean seems like the only person in the gang (besides Dutch) that Bill didn’t have a problem with lol.

[@randomps5guy315]

If they do another prequel, Mac should definitely be the character, you never see him, not even a picture, so you could make him your own character like we did with Arthur, they tease his character so much about how he had a heart but was heartless, which could tease another return of the honor system, like how they did with Arthur in rdr2, also the gang fondly remembers him so obviously his character would be good, I think Mac would be perfect

[@TheMellowMal]

Anybody peep Dutch reaction when Arthur tells Dutch about Mac being caught by the Pinkertons? It was shady as hell the way he reacted lol and him saying he “figured as much” makes me think he possibly had something to do with Mac being shot up before the Pinkertons finished him off like Milton said. Maybe they could explore Mac’s character in RD3?

[@andrewvasquez7565]

Judging by all this chances are if they make a red dead redemption 3 you'll most likely play as one of the calendar boys probably mac

[@unchainedsins3254]

"I don't wanna play as arthur, I wanna play as mac!"

[@MrZsasz25]

There is also a random campfire dialogue in which Mrs. Grimshaw briefly mentions that it is sad that Davey died + a dialogue in Shady Belle in which Karen in a depressed state reminisces about Jenny and the Callander Boys

[@GrandTheftDiamonds]

Pay close attention to these dialogues, folks. Mac might be our next RDR protagonist.

[@JM2033l]

Micah was to blame for everything

[@JerryDood98]

I have a big feeling Red Dead Redemption 3 will revolve around the Calendar brothers

[@massinirev2283]

Mac sounds badass. I'd love to play as him.

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

I wish we could have seen the Callander boys in action. They sound like badass characters. I get the feeling they would reflect Charlie Prince from 3:10 To Yuma(2007) or the Sundance Kid from Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid(1969).

[@KhepriProductions2022]

No wonder this game took so long. Had to put in the small details.

[@Smolyne]

That "Lenny!" at the end just reminded me of the time I got drunk as Arthur and he started calling out for Lenny again but it was after Lenny had died

[@testepoi4843]

I found onw easter egg about arthur becoming drunk and talking to lenny he will remember when he was drunk with arthur I am gonna publish it soon(now i cant)

[@kasra...]

Testepoi Gamer someone found it before

[@testepoi4843]

@@kasra... oh so i am sad :(

[@xx_breakfastroll_4627]

@Testepoi Gamer Aww don’t be sad! There’s so many people out there looking for possibilities in so many games. People don’t really get special awards for finding things, so don’t feel too bad.

[@MrBlack252]

What?

[@Mazzi2457]

Cant wait to play as mac in rdr3, the signs are there. He was ruthless, but also had a heart (keep it vague for high/low honor), Everyone liked em (player character), and he was never shown since he would be customizable

[@Mazzi2457]

my guess for davey is that he was constantly getting mac into trouble, seeing as he was apparently a liability and crazy. So Im guessin the plot will involve mac trying to become a better man and davey betrays em

[@TheRealGrampz]

I feel like they are trying to set up the callander brothers as the protagonists for rdr3 so that it wouldn’t be a plot hole like Arthur in RDR 1

[@ridermanyt8029]

I think so.

[@Monigote001]

"Mister Escuella" "ya estas muerto Kieran" GOT ME DYING

[@ggt47]

1:05 Nice to see he misses him.

[@DegnaDings]

Lenny: we can’t speak Ill of the dead Lenny the very next frame: yeah they’re dead major skill issue 😂💀

[@Cobards24]

RDR1: Love playing as John RDR2: love playing as Arthur RDR3: gimme some Callander boys

[@ghostwolf94]

We won't want to play as Arthur anymore then lol

[@iliketrains.539]

Arthur in a general caring tone: You Okay? Bill, looking back at this response like a robot: H e l l o.

[@erenaydilekci2334]

'I'll still miss em' 'lEnNeHh!'

[@basedsigmaspeaks]

I've always thought Mac will be the protag for RDR3. The way Arthur reacted to his death.

[@mrimmortal4905]

i think in rdr 3 we gonna play as mac callender cause he seems a pretty hard guy i mean he beat up 15 sailors in one day

[@don_dombalak]

bill beat 20 so he's the protagonist, now beat it.

[@faisalchaudhry5281]

@@don_dombalak bill might be lying

[@relaxationtime2916]

My Arthur beat up 35 labor guys in Saint Denis once. Just antagonize one of them and therest of his boyfriends show up to beat you up untill u r dead. The police showed up and just watched the whole show. Then I ran away and the police didn't go for me.

[@relaxationtime2916]

@@faisalchaudhry5281 everybody knows he is lying. The question is that is no reason to be the protagonist. This Mac looks crazy. That's it.

[@mrimmortal4905]

@@relaxationtime2916 exactly my point

[@azriffazli4670]

Micah being one of the gang's fastest gunslingers and Charles being one of the gang's strongest, hearing them say that the Callander boys were tough makes me think that they're either as good as John/Arthur or they're better. I don't think they could make any redemption story with those but if there were any Red Dead story in the future where we play as a completely different character, I wish that we could meet the gang when they were at their peak, where the callander boys are still alive so we could see them in action

[@nickmoreira5082]

Troy baker and Nolan north would be epic if they voiced the callender boys.

[@immew8249]

Huh magni and modi

[@noneofyourbusiness1199]

Wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar made the Callander boys the 2 protagonists if there is ever RDR3.

[@recklezzrabbit6693]

It’d be really cool if the next rdr or a dlc was about the davey and Mac and it could use the same mechanics from gta v where you can switch between characters like before they joined the vanderlinde gang and it shows how they joined and at the end it’ll be the black water heist

[@AniBuzzard2006]

Bill said that Mac was a horrible man but still had a heart and was kinda good man. That makes me think that it is all about Redemption. Maybe rdr 3.

[@semipunch857]

As much as I'd love to spend time with the gang again. I think it would be cool if we followed a different group of characters. I was thinking maybe a character belonging to the gang of the infamous gunslingers you kill as Arthur/John. (Jim Boy Calloway, Black Belle, Emmet Granger, Billy Midnight, Flaco Hernandez). Set during the "golden age" of the wild west for outlaws

[@Jason_-_]

Arthur: You okay? Bill: Hello. Rockstar games is pretty good but they need to improve the communications

[@Crossgaming66]

0:23 Really Dutch really

[@blackmondayy1]

At the begging of the game, even Micah says he liked those Callender boys. If the game was an absolute masterpiece just imagine how RDR2 would have been with Mac and Davey Callander in the game ...

[@xvxvcaspervxvx]

I never spent much time in camp during CH2 so I missed alot of backstory and character development. :(

[@Sam-rf6ev]

Really hope they’re the protagonists for 3 would piece the whole story together

[@haripk1]

I dont think rockstar would continue with the redemption story.. they might make another red dead game but an entire different storyline

[@IncredibleTheBob]

you know a game is good when it makes you wish you could meet people by the way the characters talk about them

[@elgrillocantor87]

My theory is that RDR3 will have a "GTA V" style of gameplay, you'll first play as Dutch, and then when he meets Hosea, you'll be able to play as him too, and finally, the third playable character will be Mac,and the final mission will be the Blackwater Ferry Job, and Mac's redemption will be that he stays and fights till death, to let the gang escape.

[@lucabrandao5243]

That'd be a damn big game, i reckon they won't do that. Arthur alone has 20 years of gang, imagine the time gap between Dutch and Hosea and the Callender boys

[@elgrillocantor87]

@@lucabrandao5243 Fair point xD. I think they will show how the most important gang members came by (Dutch and Hosea obviously, Arthur and John, and also the Callander boys) and then they will show something like "a few years later", and we see the whole gang as we know and have seen in RDR2 plus the missing ones. After that "timeskip" we see a more mature version of the first gang members, and we get to play the prep missions that would lead to the Blackwater heist. Plus, (this is most unlikely, but it could happen) they could release DLCs that show how each of the other minor gang members were found by Dutch.

[@tracyrae4854]

I hope it doesn't let you switch characters freely

[@elgrillocantor87]

@@tracyrae4854 Why not?

[@tracyrae4854]

@@elgrillocantor87 because it detracts from the story

[@thehaloscrolls391]

Anyone else hear about people talking about Mac’s death before Agent Milton tells Arthur that he’s dead? Same with the train robbery mission, Arthur mentions meeting Milton even though I hadn’t done that mission yet

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

I'm sticking to my theory that the Callendar boys were in cahoots with Micah and were about to double cross the gang, but Micah tripple crossed them. Sounds like something he'd do; talk someone into betrayal and then betray them

[@aarondawe448]

That would be kind of interesting, especially after hearing about an apparently cut dialogue between Arthur and Dutch about Mac sacrificing himself by giving his horse to Arthur so he could escape backwater. Possibly a final redemption? Realizing that Dutch isn't who he thought he was after killing Heidi. Mac makes sure that his wounded brother gets away (not realizing that he wasn't going to make it, or possibly because he knew he had no one left with Davey dead) Mac knows that Arthur was a good man and was just as much his brother as Davey was and that he knew Arthur could have a chance at a decent life, unlike himself and Davey feeling like they were too far gone. So he forces Arthur to run while he guns down as many Pinkertons as he has bullets only to die at the hands of Milton after they finally catch up to him.

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

I don't think Micah was talking to the Pinkertons at that time.

[@Crilltools]

I really like to think these 2 would be the next protagonist of RDR3, and have a switch function like GTA 5. Dave and Mac has a harsh tough love relation with a reason, maybe mac has done something that Davey would never forget. In the end, Davey got shot, Mac redeem himself by helping his brother, carrying him and told them to take him with the others and escapes, while he stays, sacrificing himself and pull the last 6 shot of his life. Like John.

[@romanbellic7753]

Who thinks Mac Callander actually survived?

[@sabarigirinath7251]

Do a lemonade There is a Possibility that Mac Callander escaped on his own and could not return to the gang because he never knew where they were camping. Milton lied to Arthur about Mac's death to Break Arthur Mentally And Emotionally. But Trelawny confirms in One Mission that Mac Callander is Dead. So it means he really is Dead...

[@Vanerov]

@@sabarigirinath7251 Well we still don't know if he's dead.

[@sabarigirinath7251]

Rodeo Rodeo But i guess He is still Alive and Escapes with some Bullet Wounds. Maybe he could have Gone to The Northern side and Escaped The Gang to Live a Peaceful Life. I hope we get to Play as Mac in Red Dead Redemption 3.

[@milesupshur4179]

2:30 it’s so pleasant to see bill spending time with his dear old dad

[@evolutionmax9791]

RDR3 main character Mac, Mac dies then play as Arthur

[@niallheaton2724]

Nico Slade they won’t keep going back if they are they will play a young Dutch. Personally I’d love that because we’d grow to love him as a character without any hate.

[@salgrrez]

It’s either playing as Mac or playing as adult Jack

[@niallheaton2724]

Salgado noooo not adult jack. 2 reasons I just end the game after he kills Ross so I imagine he goes into a regular life like his parents wanted and he was such a shitty character imo as an older lad. Like how’d he go from weak little boy to John marston 2.0

[@romanbellic7753]

Big Mac

[@paweleee3183]

Rdr3 idea 1894, you play as Davey Callandar, the story takes place in the part of the map in rdr2 that is over the hills of the dessert. His brother, Mac, also serves in gang. During the year we also see a younger Arthur and John, and few new members like Bill Williamson and Abigail. The year end with Hoseas wofe dying from a mysterious disease. In this year, Dutch and Colm Odrisco are close. 1895, this year starts off with Davey and his brother in the gang, Mac, finding out on a secret treasure hidden in Mexico, they go to Mexico, and engage in a massive shootout leaving Mac arrested in Mexico, this makes Davey go on a quest to save his brother and finds few new people, (think soemthing like the set up for fort Mercer in rdr1but in Mexico) one of those people he teams up with is Javier who is trying to escape Mexico, Davey promises him a life in America of he helps him, he does and Davey, Mac and Javier come back to America. The rest of the year is spend with the gang and Jack is born, and later on, John disappears, the gang also moves to a new camp located in Armadillo. The year ends with Colm betraying Dutch starting a war, this leads to Dutchs wofe getting killed by Colm. 1896, the gang move closer to Blackwater, somewhere further away than thieves landing, Dutch wants to expand to compete with Colm, and creates multiple camps, he stays near Blackwater, but makes few new camps, in the swamps of Saint Denis, outside Strawberry, and further north of Annesburg. This year is spend mostly working in different camps, towards the end, most members from those camps turn on Dutch for not being seen as nothing much and Turn to Colms side. John returns and begins being a terrible father. Before John left, Arthur treated him like a brother, now since John returns, Arthur hardly speaks to him. Davey, Mac and a young Sean, find about a bank to rob in Annesburg, they got the lead from an anonymous source, later on it is revealed that the source was Micah Bell, thrown out of a different gang, Davey tells him that for someone like Micah it can take few years to get into Dutchs gang. The robbery on the bank leads Annesburg to be the poor city we see in 1899. The few gang members from the other camps that decide to stick with Dutch are only a small amount, one of them that sticks with Dutch is Jenny who worked as a thief for the gang outside of Strawberry, the few other members that stick with Dutch from other camps end up dying to a massive raid made by Colm. At the end, it switches to Arthur, the game does not kill Davey since he dies at the begging of rdr2. 1897 (epilogue part 1), Arthur is tasked by Dutch to try and track down Colm, while also getting some strong leads on money making opportunities, Arthur leaves the camp and while his time away he also tries to find Mart but finds no success. 1899 (epilogue part 2) this section is only available after finishing all other years, you can access these missions by going to sleep and waking up in the time before the Blackwater massacre, the last mission is the Blackwater massacre where you play in a 3 character system like in gta 5, you play as Davey, on the diversion team 1 alongside Mac, Sean, Jenny and John. You also play as Arthur the team that enters the bank and takes money, soon they get split up and you first have to fight of lawman as Arthur, and then you switch to Davey, watching Jenny get killed, injured Mac creating a diversion for Sean and injured Davey to get away with, while running away, you can hear a tired Mac getting confronted by Agent Milton. And then Arthur finds Davey and Sean, you switch to Arthur and help to get Davetly to safety, which we know he ends up dying in Colter, Sean decides to go back for Mac, not knowing what happened yet, but you can see Sean in the background trying to run away towards Armadilo.

[@ridermanyt8029]

Sounds interesting

[@TheSetesis]

Thumbs up for a Mac Callender Story for Red Dead Redemption 3.

[@uhtredofbebbanburg5493]

Yeah

[@TheSetesis]

@Whos your Daddy?Honestly, I could see Mac and Davey having that brother ying and yang. One is naive and the other one being the wiser. Hopefully this explains how the Van Der Linde Gang formed. We can see Morgan's and Marston's inclusion. I always pictured Mac as the no B.S uncle to the both of them and this could be the final game to end it as a trilogy. Final Mission is Mac gunning his way through Pinkerton Agents at Blackwater.

[@paliboy93]

@@TheSetesis Mac and Davey joined way after Arthur though.

[@TheSetesis]

@@paliboy93 Ah fuck, well maybe they can retcon that. Idk I just miss this game. And I find it interesting how Arthur reacted when Milton eluded to Mac's death.

[@romanbellic7753]

The original gangsters of the gang are dutch,hosea,and arthur everyone came after those 3

[@raihansungkar6747]

if mac was the main protagonist in rdr 3 , this video will get more views

[@ridermanyt8029]

I hope he will be.

[@flower5092]

no one: literally no one: Drunken Bill: 5:20

[@punctuationman334]

Becky that’s LENNY!

[@solidochus1]

Red dead 3 will be about the Callender Brothers

[@noaheverett103]

Davey and Mac sounded like better versions of Micah. Ruthless but loyal to Arthur.

[@maccallander603]

We were.