Sean, Bill, Javier and Micah Discuss the First Time they met Dutch Subscribe for more: / @point_zero This Channel is dedicated to Story Driven Games and capturing the best moments for you to see.
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@kennygudz93264 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot more sense that bill and javier sided with dutch now
@rijn18554 жыл бұрын
Kenny Gudz I expected bill to stick with Dutch from the beginning but I was so disappointed In Javier.. he was my favorite until I played again, came back to camp more, and saw how aggressive he actually is.
@spicelord46884 жыл бұрын
Julian Guardiola yup and it’s not a glitch or flaw either. On my controller I pressed the key pad arrow pointing up ^ and it raises your gun to the air while you aim. You can still shoot too.
@amirfreeman15574 жыл бұрын
@Julian Guardiola That was actually a choice on his actor's part, because he thought that realistically Javier would never point his gun at John or Arthur, the other folks at Rockstar wanted him to point his gun at them like the others but he fought hard enough that they let him keep his gun in the air.
@ianjohnson38404 жыл бұрын
We actually got a good insight on Bill, I like him a lot more now. People hate on the "bad guys" (Dutch,Javier,Bill) but they forget that all of these characters are outlaws,they're all horrible people.
@crypto13474 жыл бұрын
Rijn same here I liked Javier so much
@drummyt71664 жыл бұрын
I feel a lot more for bill than I ever did after that little heart to heart. Always just thought he was a tool. He’s actually a very sensitive and sad man.
@robertcampbell30194 жыл бұрын
Yeah in Rdr1 he had a lot less characterization.
@BlackIce31904 жыл бұрын
robert campbell By then the dementia was in full swing. Whatever was left of Bill was gone, replaced by a bloodthirsty savage born out of a broken mind.
@robertcampbell30194 жыл бұрын
@@BlackIce3190 dementia?
@BlackIce31904 жыл бұрын
robert campbell Yep. It’s in another of his camp dialogues, when he’s talking about his father and how he went insane from it. He worries it’s going to hit him too...and he was right.
@robertcampbell30194 жыл бұрын
@@BlackIce3190 I mean he might, I guess.
@Agent-ol5re4 жыл бұрын
So basically everyone tried to rob them...
@matthewgaviola88854 жыл бұрын
Agent 245 That does seem to be the best way to evaluate one's worth to the gang.
@joshs23564 жыл бұрын
And that's why Dutch laughed at them all.
@Agent-ol5re4 жыл бұрын
Thank keep it this way
@DJ_Thanos4 жыл бұрын
No, they _thought_ they were gonna get robbed. Poor fellers just needed a job.
@hittingdasauce4 жыл бұрын
Life of a outlaw man it aint easy
@Mirokuofnite4 жыл бұрын
A lot of similarities with this gang and a cult. Dutch finds people at their low points and builds them up. Thus insuring loyalty while having himself look like a savior.
@garrysmith10294 жыл бұрын
That's what gangs and cults do
@thewholehorse71404 жыл бұрын
I think to some extent Dutch really cared about the gang, but at the same time it's pretty obvious he was enjoying the god complex from all of them. I think a lot of his confusion and actions towards the end were the result of his whole image coming down, he did care about the gang but from like Chapter 6 onward he was thinking about himself and just how others saw him
@lostpotato47233 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Dutch didn’t try to control what people did on their off time, unless it’s telling people where the gang is
@glowhoo92263 жыл бұрын
Just like Mary’s brother and the chelonians. A lost kid with nowhere to go, gets conned into a group that preaches safety in numbers and living free, saying that they know the truth of the world.
@Mirokuofnite3 жыл бұрын
@@glowhoo9226 had Arthur had someone like his older self as a kid he might've turned out better. Arthur mocked the cult as something silly (because it was) but he doesn't realize at the time he's basically been in a cult his whole life. The Robin Hood thing him Dutch and Hosea had didn't last long as the gang grew and it's needs grew as well. When it was just Dutch, Hosea, Arthur and Susan it was probably more like a family. But at some point Dutch got a savior messiah complex, and a cult of personality developed.
@Trash-Bambino4 жыл бұрын
Like how when Sean telling his story that Hosea has a look on his face like "you better tell the story right".
@zephyr_x454 жыл бұрын
that little smile when sean said how they laughed at him-
@rainbowcloudss_ Жыл бұрын
@@zephyr_x45 that little smile really makes it so much better
@getsugaallen6612 Жыл бұрын
lol
@Takaichi666- Жыл бұрын
I did like that Hosea was giggling at the end like “yep that’s what happened you silly fool” man the Amount of detail that goes into this games story is quite something
@Disconnect3504 жыл бұрын
Javier saying "You're all my home now" was really sweet. All these conversations at the fire and character interactions in the first 3 camps set such a great atmosphere.
@BasedChad4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@CenoriaWoah4 жыл бұрын
Wolf Hound, Even at the end of chapter 6 when Arthur confronted Micah at camp Javier points his gun in the air and doesn’t aim at Arthur or John not wanting to betray his brothers.
@Kenny-jy5kl4 жыл бұрын
He technically died at home then if you kill him in rdr
@zephyr_x454 жыл бұрын
Loyality was everything to him, and he was forced to decide who to be loyal to.
@jeremiahtruluck64984 жыл бұрын
I about cried 😭😂
@TheNikoBellic20084 жыл бұрын
Bill: *spills his guts out about how much he respects Dutch* also Bill in 1911: *NO MORE DUTCH, AND NO MORE YOU! I'M IN CHARGE NOW!*
@mnac15744 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Bill had lost his mind at that point
@sbj974 жыл бұрын
I mean it was like what..10 years while they were on the run and Bill wanted to become the independent type by forming his own gang so it'd make sense why he'd say that
@elil57034 жыл бұрын
His sanity went down the toilet
@e14ee4 жыл бұрын
thats what happens when an inbred drunk finally gains power over his murdering, raping gang
@e14ee4 жыл бұрын
Tom Phelps you an inbred drunkard as well? shit sorry for upsetting you
@Toviyah4 жыл бұрын
it so sad how the gang fell apart after all the good stories they shared
@shadowagent60514 жыл бұрын
It's very clear now why Bill and Javier didn't want to lose faith in Dutch,but when they finally had to face the facts they lost themselfs and Bill felt really hard,this is why he went totally crazy in RDR 1,he wanted to live by his own rules since he lived most of his life by Dutch's rules and Javier felt lost to the point that he thought that he had no reason to stay in US since the man of his motivations was no longer around.
@NieMonD4 жыл бұрын
And it’s all because of fucking Micah
@user-ew2bq3sw1s4 жыл бұрын
Gamer67 splane yo notten
@Lena24314 жыл бұрын
Welp then the first game wouldn't make no sense
@qwerticia9154 жыл бұрын
Exactly, when I was done chapter six when Arthur was riding to the camp when miss grimshaw got shot I was literally about to cry because all the dead gang members were speaking which brought back so much good memories about the gang
@askaykeeners87124 жыл бұрын
Bills like a sad and lost puppy it actually made me sad for what happened to him in rdr1
@lobaandrade71724 жыл бұрын
askay keeners Bill has the most tragic villain backstory in the RDR2
@tracyrae48544 жыл бұрын
@@lobaandrade7172 No Fuck off Dutch does
@seanmorris32764 жыл бұрын
In the first game, the things he does in his gang are beyond evil, RDR2 doesn’t show his true nature at all. It makes it hard to feel sorry for him. Even people get John wrong in RDR2, in the first game, he burns down a Mexican village with people still inside the houses, assists the capture of innocent women etc.
@django88754 жыл бұрын
@@tracyrae4854 calm down he just based his opinion
@ironic75834 жыл бұрын
@@tracyrae4854damn calm down hot head
@cartoskysin1354 жыл бұрын
Dang, I always liked Javier. You can see how hesitant he was in the end times of the gang. He always seemed to be on the fence.
@sotsu6184 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Like the little detail they add where he doesn’t aim his gun at Arthur. He aims it in the air instead
@henryeberman63424 жыл бұрын
Really unfortunate he was a bad guy in RDR1
@jamesyoo47793 жыл бұрын
@@seanbean6801 and that's with mostly (if not all) the same voice actors as well. I think RDR2 had better direction and purpose behind it. RDR1 feels like Rockstar just intended to make a fun open-world western shooting game and story was secondary priority, although it was a good story of its own. But with 2, I feel like I could tell that the story and the world-building was the primary focus. I hope they end up remaking RDR1 and give it the same narrative polish.
@peanutbutter67203 жыл бұрын
@@jamesyoo4779 surprisingly the only returning voices were the people behind Dutch, John, and Bill. Everyone else was recast for a multitude of reasons.
@BernieTheDevastator3 жыл бұрын
He should be. Arthur saved him in Guarma
@dutchvanderlinde24884 жыл бұрын
i like how hosea is sitting there with sean and bill and having a laugh with them and having a whoa face when bill said he wanted to kill dutch lol..detail is great
@K_ingh164 жыл бұрын
theres 2 of u here
@quint45734 жыл бұрын
@@K_ingh16 I can confirm this is the REAL Dutch
@K_ingh164 жыл бұрын
@@quint4573 oh, hey charles, and i thought you hated dutch
@coleglaser59914 жыл бұрын
@@quint4573 hey cowpoke
@quint45734 жыл бұрын
@@K_ingh16 i do, he's just sneaky
@jimmyvondoom13414 жыл бұрын
"Alright I'll catch you later then."
@uragiri63794 жыл бұрын
a line that you can hear
@musio34384 жыл бұрын
U R A G I R I no shit Sherlock
@danielm86564 жыл бұрын
@@musio3438 stfu
@posstaldude4 жыл бұрын
naked sname ufts
@Trash_B0at4 жыл бұрын
"Alright, I guess I uh... Leave you to it then."
@sunflowertea69484 жыл бұрын
These stories make me wanna see Dutch in his prime. Before the stress and fear made him callous. I wanna see the man who helped the boy who tried to shoot him, who saved people rather than kill them.
@TIMETECH073 жыл бұрын
Would also like to see how he found Arthur
@jaimelannister17973 жыл бұрын
More like took people in at their lowest so they could feel dependent on him to boost his ego and god complex
@shydreameress2643 жыл бұрын
I crave to know the story of Dutch and Hosea meeting Arthur and also John later. They probably tried to rob them just like most of them. Still I wish Arthur would talk about it, John too.
@gillandalearts30412 жыл бұрын
I wanna see how Dutch became the Dutch he is famous for whithin the gang. How he became strong minded guy and also what Micah did to bring that down.
@Strawberry-ds4ee2 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I think rd3 would most definitely be a prequel to rd2, so many call backs to the gangs prime and the fairy job, how Bessie died etc, so many call backs.
@MegaJohn7574 жыл бұрын
Javier did end up going back to Mexico.. crazy he was always a nice guy, was was a lil crazy in RD1
@nathanbaileigh92104 жыл бұрын
I mean he's nice until you fuck with him or dutch since if you notice one of the conversations with Bill he pulls a knife on them and when you save John in chapter 6 he just treats Arthur like shite
@Cj-xt6tv4 жыл бұрын
Javier wasnt even pointing a gun at them at the end. I don’t think he’s like the others. But what he turns into when he goes to Mexico is a different story
@mjc3134 жыл бұрын
John mentions in RDR1 that though they used to be close, he felt when Dutch went crazy in the end it affected Javier as he really believed in Dutch and it was all he had. Wasnt the same after.
@saniakshay124 жыл бұрын
Javier literally became a merc for the guy he ran from. He killed Allende's uncle or something.
@xMurdererr3 жыл бұрын
although javier was kinda crazy, he still had some loyalty to john, he had multiple opportunities to kill john in rdr1 but he didn't
@TihetrisWeathersby4 жыл бұрын
When I first met Dutch he was telling me about how he had a Plan
@justamediocreyoutubechanne41724 жыл бұрын
Good times
@Schros_kitty4 жыл бұрын
First time I met Dutch he blasted open an innocent woman’s face. Fantastic times.
@posstaldude4 жыл бұрын
smooth criminal hol’ up...
@Schros_kitty4 жыл бұрын
The cheese is a lie rdr1 was an awesome trip
@posstaldude4 жыл бұрын
smooth criminal he blasted open an innocent woman’s face ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@lukewilliams66484 жыл бұрын
Bills storytelling always gets me in the feels, his voice breaks and he sounds like he’s about to cry if he’s not already 😞 :”/
@missbelled67004 жыл бұрын
the actor did an amazing job in this scene, with conveying someone who isn't great with words but fully believes in what they're saying and is trying to say it right..
@justjust31003 жыл бұрын
bill is gay and had sexual feelings for dutch thats why he is so sensitive
@diegoidepersia3 жыл бұрын
@@justjust3100 OwO
@wolfhein69733 жыл бұрын
@@justjust3100 Huh?
@justjust31003 жыл бұрын
@@wolfhein6973 yes
@milesupshur41794 жыл бұрын
Everyone sure loves to open up about themselves when the moon is out
@Chrisadeth4 жыл бұрын
The night plus a couple drinks seem to be open up even the most uptight of men it seems.
@milesupshur41794 жыл бұрын
chrisadeth I like how when Sean is telling his story of when he met Dutch and Hosea, Hosea actually smiles like “haha ah yes I remember that day”
@missbelled67004 жыл бұрын
@@Chrisadeth this game captures that feeling so well, I love it to death. I have a lot of memories with campfires and open bottles and talking about old times, good and bad.
@walter97333 жыл бұрын
You never been camping?
@nobodyxdel23903 жыл бұрын
Its because they're whywolves. They answer why questions when the moon is out.
@fartsmella62984 жыл бұрын
Damn, half the gang tried to screw Dutch over. What legends.....
@choursatch61474 жыл бұрын
In the end one did though
@caveguy224 жыл бұрын
In the end he screwed himself over lol.
@vvthetalentlessduo69763 жыл бұрын
L
@Red05434 жыл бұрын
*desire to hug Bill and tell him that’s everything is gonna be alright intensifies*
@mithridates88904 жыл бұрын
The way that Sean, Bill and Javier talk about how Dutch helped them when they were at their lowest is akin to how an actual cult operates. It's no coincidence that someone like Bill lionises Dutch, as he's not exactly the brightest person in the gang and therefore, is easily believed that he won't survive outside of the gang/cult. It's only his separation from Dutch in RDR1 that he shows some independence and forms a gang of his own.
@JesusChrist-bq6lu4 жыл бұрын
Dutch ran a cult helping people at their lowest making them think he was this wise old teacher/Robin Hood character when he was just a outlaw no different from Colm that see’s a opportunity and takes it to help him achieve his goals he knows if he helps them he’ll own them because they’ll most likely feel like they have some sort of debt to be paid
@missbelled67004 жыл бұрын
@@JesusChrist-bq6lu I don't even think Dutch was doing it in an intentionally manipulative way, there's just something in him that loved being head of the van der Linde gang more than the people in the gang itself. I think he truly believes himself to be a good, helpful leader who improves the lives of those in his gang, and it's this conflict with his own ego that we see breaking him apart over the course of the game. He's very desperate to believe that he's doing the right thing, but it's increasingly clear how he's motivated by pride, greed, and self-preservation. He acts to do right by Dutch van der Linde, not the van der Linde gang, but because those two things are one and the same to him the lost souls in the gang, he gets away with it.
@theshyguy49324 жыл бұрын
@@JesusChrist-bq6lu at the beginning he was Robin hood if you read about Arthur Hosea and Dutch's first robbery the gave slot of the money to poor people
@henryeberman63424 жыл бұрын
But he was a really good man at the start. He was Robin Hood and a gang. As time went on he became a typical outlaw, taking in people like Strauss, Micah and Sadie in chapter 3
@imma102003 жыл бұрын
@@henryeberman6342 Sadie didn’t do anything wrong. It was Micah and Strauss
@reddeadyourmom95524 жыл бұрын
I really hope there is a RDR3 that is another prequel to RDR2
@quickfury69014 жыл бұрын
I have 3 predictions on who the story will focus on, Amos Bell (Micah Bell's Brother), The unnamed traitor that was mention in chapter 3, or maybe Mac and Davey Callander.
@almightyschwein2904 жыл бұрын
@@quickfury6901 I can see that happening in RDR3
@ejcoolkid4 жыл бұрын
Or a remastered version of RDR1
@trashcantacos4 жыл бұрын
Or a spin-off to the series that would see Jack in WWI So it wouldn't really be an RDR game...
@chickenbreasts55434 жыл бұрын
Maybe about jack? The last van der linde member
@lenoirtnb40774 жыл бұрын
When I first met Dutch, he shot some poor lady in the head.
@richardgardner61424 жыл бұрын
3:55 “You tell em bill” “Somebody’s gotta” “For sure” 😭 cracked me up
@henryeberman63424 жыл бұрын
Wierdchamp
@SarcyBoi414 жыл бұрын
6:25 I think that's the only time Micah's ever laughed at himself. I almost liked him for a second there.
@Drukasss3 жыл бұрын
Only for a second but yeah
@tailsbread3 жыл бұрын
If only Micah acted like that more
@imma102003 жыл бұрын
I liked him when he killed all those Grays in like 5 seconds after they killed Sean
@somegirl80072 жыл бұрын
@@imma10200 yeah same
@superiorbeing1111 Жыл бұрын
I think he did that in a sarcastic/threatening kinda way
@devinpendergast37654 жыл бұрын
I wish the gang was still together 😢 I hate Micah
@nutsfromberk1794 жыл бұрын
@@clinicalpsychologist can't complain about spoilers if you're watching this kind of video
@Thomas-sq3ek4 жыл бұрын
Devin Pendergast yeah he ruined everything. Dutch should have never let him in the gang
@devinpendergast37654 жыл бұрын
The Deer Hunter sorry not sorry
@ashtonviola98934 жыл бұрын
The Deer Hunter the game is 2 years old
@DwarChief4 жыл бұрын
@@clinicalpsychologist You must be joking right :v
@MrFXGoT4 жыл бұрын
Bill: *pours his heart out* Hosea: 🗿👂🏻
@therealramos55424 жыл бұрын
I always liked Javier, even after the ending because he never really tried to kill Arther or John until RD1 ofc. But I though he was a loyal and cool dude. He did subtle things that I liked him for.
@LordBeerusGodofDestruction4 жыл бұрын
thereal Ramos even when all guns were drawn on Authur, Grimshaw, and John, Javier’s gun was to the air because he was so conflicted.
@therealramos55424 жыл бұрын
Beerus The God Of Destruction yes, exactly
@grey19164 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even really try to hurt John in the first game either. He just kinda threw a box at him and ran away. I don’t remember but does he even try to shoot you at all when you chase him? Even so, he still wasn’t trying to kill John right away. Hell, even at the start of the game Bill doesn’t even shoot you, some rando does.
@therealramos55424 жыл бұрын
Grey Honestly,I think Bill would kill John if he had the chance in the first game. Besides the obvious start of the game
@minalooo4 жыл бұрын
When they were stranded on guarma Javier was the one who helped arthur up, alongside Dutch, He got him water and then told them to leave him once he was shot.
@DaInvisibleNinja4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this game makes Red Dead so heartbreaking
@communismsucks50624 жыл бұрын
I love *DEATH* 🤘👹
@bepsiican5083 жыл бұрын
@@communismsucks5062 k
@bigknobbob2483 жыл бұрын
@@communismsucks5062 sorry solid
@dennis_duran3 жыл бұрын
Bill actually improvised his story in one take, and it’s his favorite scene.
@fristnamelastname55494 жыл бұрын
Bill, Javier, and Shaun all talk about Dutch as if he was a father figure, or a teacher. Micah seems to take Dutch for granted.
@T-Patchezz4 жыл бұрын
Sean*
@e14ee4 жыл бұрын
lmao they call dutch their daddy
@vincenttan7533 жыл бұрын
Sean*
@tanaysaxena11392 жыл бұрын
Subtitles-BoYkA
@greatersabre31352 жыл бұрын
Yeah, cause even before micah ratted dutch out he was just using him
@raphaelambrosius3 жыл бұрын
sean telling his story, hosea sitting by the fire right next to him. pay attention to hosea's reactions. he is genuinely listening to it and reacting to it - nodding his head with perfect timing. to think such detail was put in animating this very missable dialog, as in something most players will never hear. damn, this is a very good game.
@fairweather2764 жыл бұрын
I rarely catch the gang tell about their stories in my gameplay so this compilation was great and eye-opening. It's interesting to see the contrast between Sean, Bill and Javier's encounters with Dutch compared to Micah's. While these three men talk about that first meeting with a heartfelt, warm fondness, emphasising on how Dutch saved them and looked after them, Micah's tone is the opposite. The latter sounded proud and arrogant and almost condescending, boasting about how it was HE who saved Dutch. Bill emphasising again and again how Dutch saved him from a bad place was very moving. His actor did a great job putting so much emotion and action in his words.
@Melly_Wayy4 жыл бұрын
fair weather Outside looking in Micah could see Dutch found them all at their lowest so he just spoke what he saw, arrogant is just his natural state lol
@issysomething10774 жыл бұрын
fair weather it is, bill, Javier, Sean all met Dutch at their lowest point, he took them in and looked after them. Where as Micahs is completely different
@markbaltazar69164 жыл бұрын
If you read Arthur's journal, you'll see how he says the same thing about Micah. Short temper, arrogant, and full of himself.
@jassykat4 жыл бұрын
The voice acting in this game is one of the best I ever heard. It's so consistent.
@joshfallon1234 жыл бұрын
Sean is a really great character.
@K3nseiii4 жыл бұрын
0:53 look at Hosea's face. The facial animations in this game are absolutely beautiful!
@excitedcat95174 жыл бұрын
2:58 Awww...Bill...now I get it, Jesus, now I feel bad for putting a bullet in him. Well sorta RDR Bill was a long gone compared to Bill in RDR2, That Bill was a monster.
@henryeberman63424 жыл бұрын
Domince Gasperince II did u play the game. He shoots u the first time u see him.
@henryeberman63424 жыл бұрын
Domince Gasperince II ur a very edgy 14 year old go back to Reddit
@arturkaczan33524 жыл бұрын
"first time i met DOTCH"
@Fr0st19893 жыл бұрын
Hosea laughing quietly to himself as Sean tells the story of how he tried to rob Dutch and him was great :D
@anthonyspitery63324 жыл бұрын
I believe Micah's story 100% He loves to call people out on their weaknesses, and Dutch was very much on a decline since as the context of the beginning of the game established. I very much believe that Dutch tried to charm some potential buyers and got in trouble. Micah and Dutch probably had a shootout and then got some drinks together. I believe when they got to talking, Dutch also didn't have to persuade or fool Micah and go all pimp on him. I think he was also 100% honest with his situation, and felt he needed someone to do the dirty work better than anyone else would have. Micah had Dutch begin to think maybe it was the only way they can survive...and it changed him into his true self for everyone to see.
@familyfilms78534 жыл бұрын
Yeah and when it comes to shootouts. Arthur is definitely the best shooter in the gang.
@tonydaza85043 жыл бұрын
Actually that sounds like what really happened with Dutch but my question is what made him change his mind and shoot Micah
@anthonyspitery63323 жыл бұрын
@@tonydaza8504 Well…If you read Molly’s poem in Dutch’s tent she writes “I gave you my all” Arthur and John (and presumably other people) have told Dutch that they gave him all they had…In a nutshell, It’s the best way to appeal to Dutch’s humanity, by showing him how his selfishness stole their entire lives. Dutch actually had a conscience and is capable of moments of clarity…which is why he shot Micah
@johnywang81382 жыл бұрын
@@tonydaza8504 he's realized why the gang is fallen apart yet too stubborn to admit it's his fault
@flowersinawasteland Жыл бұрын
You’re wrong and stupid.
@doki-doki-hi19603 жыл бұрын
Bill admitted his low intellect. But he also admitted his weakness to the camp that he was a man at his deepest low. Someone who had no one to go back to, risk seeing, or let alone anyone. Someone that was waiting to die either from the booze or a bullet to the chest. Like how Lenny looks up to Hosea as a father figure, Bill and Javier did for Dutch too; the fact someone out there offer a hand to pick them up from a deep hole. I'm glad we were able to listen to this.
@temp97474 жыл бұрын
Puts it into context why Bill kinda went crazy and why Javier stuck with Dutch
@keepwondering_4 жыл бұрын
Why do i never get this convos when im at camp.. they only tell me to sit down and then leave me hanging and walk away😂
@GHOSTLOVER0704 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Janzq134 жыл бұрын
It seems like usually the conversations are triggered when you walk to the campfire. If you hang around the camp fire all evening and night they don't always start. So try walking around the camp and do something like shave or change clothes etc. and then walk back to the camp fire.
@keepwondering_4 жыл бұрын
Janzq13 noticed that indeed, also after a mission or when you just started to play they will have conversations like that, took a while for me to find out tho🤣
@SkyDoggyH204 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll sit down then like 30 seconds later they'll all get up and walk away like tf lmao tell me to sit down then leave
@Kidofthesouth1474 жыл бұрын
Dutch : So anyway I started Laughing
@sheisbrit174 жыл бұрын
Now I see why Bill and Javier blindly followed Dutch. They ended up not havin a mind of their own.
@Ravenous888884 жыл бұрын
They had their own minds but they were just loyal to a fault.
@sheisbrit174 жыл бұрын
@@Ravenous88888 The way I see it, they didn't. Thats just my opinion and the way I look at itm
@drpufosoide54223 жыл бұрын
@Edwin C. racist fuck
@user-jd9kf8ow2q3 жыл бұрын
@@drpufosoide5422 what did edwin say
@cameliamares3 жыл бұрын
You can say the same about Sean XDDDDDDD
@yourmomuglysi95053 жыл бұрын
2:45 perfect example of blind loyalty. can't blame bill
@getsugaallen6612 Жыл бұрын
lol yep
@forbiddentuna31273 жыл бұрын
Bill sounds like he's delivering a eulogy at Dutch's funeral
@gtrman128874 жыл бұрын
2:50 "because he saved me...HE SAVED BILL WILLIAMSON!!!!" *church chorus starts to sing* Dutch is on the mainline, tellem what you want... Dutch is on the mainline, tellem what you want...
@alaineneuburger28304 жыл бұрын
I was watching this with my dog next to me and when Micah laughed, he started growling. Attaboy
@Sparky-gp9vh4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always felt bad for and always kinda liked Bill. In the 1st game I felt a little bad about killing him because he was your brother and then this came out and he was one of my favorite gang members and I saw this and it genuinely made me sad.
@Schros_kitty4 жыл бұрын
I hated him from the first game. When I got into rdr2, I was ready to antagonize the hell out of him. Then I got attached like hell, and he’s one of my favorites.
@41Brother24 жыл бұрын
Tbh i had no attachment to Bill or Javier in RDR1. We only ever see Bill 3 times and Javier once. And from what we knew then Bill just seemed like a crazed outlaw hardly worthy of any sympathy. Javier tried to weasel his way out of being caught and came across no better than the typical Mexican banditos you encounter there. But man after RDR2 gave me a whole new perspective on em both as well as Dutch
@nihaalsandim99864 жыл бұрын
I hated him snd how he treats others hes a typical bully until you him who he really is...a coward this us shown when hosea and javier confront him and he just shits and he also doesn't give any lip to arthur and only bullies lenny and keiran
@Satellite_Of_Love4 жыл бұрын
@@Schros_kitty Same here. He was genuinely loyal, if not the brightest or easiest to get along with.
@Snook_YT4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how cool rdr3 would be if you played as hosea or Dutch and recruited the gang!
@rysescups4 жыл бұрын
*"And I thought to myself, I'm going to rob these fools."* Dutch & Hosea: **laughs** Oh, you silly child, come here. Let us get you some food, clothe you, and shelter you. Everyone was just glad they had met someone like Dutch and Hosea. It's almost too precious and sad. And everything makes sense now with Bill and Javier siding with Dutch.
@haroonabassi18214 жыл бұрын
dude everyone wants to talk about Arthur and Dutch but Bill's voice actor is really damn good too. Listen to the emotion in his voice. In every line Bills voice actor gives 110% By the end of the game I found myself actually feeling sorry for him more so than the gang being dissolved lowkey.
@sadcockroacheatingaburger88794 жыл бұрын
In my playthrough I spent most of my time in the camp just hearing the stories and watching the events and hunting deers and other animals for the camp during the playthrough I had this weird feeling I felt like I was attached to the characters emotionally every time a gang member dies I cry I don’t know I felt like every gang member is an old friend rockstar really played with our emotions in this game 😢
@ehodges112 жыл бұрын
This actually makes me respect Bill more. I didn’t actually like him much but he’s very loyal to Dutch and for much better reason than I thought before. He seems like much better of a man than what I saw when I played.
@cccc-fh7su4 жыл бұрын
I like Bills reaction to Micah. Bill sees Micah as the lowest person (lower than himself which is saying something since he calls himself scum and a waste) Bill was saved by Dutch (he sees as a god, an angel) Micah (complete trash) saved Dutch (god/angel) Gets completely worked up by it
@SplicerYT4 жыл бұрын
Dutch was essentially like a cult leader, reminds me of Charles Manson of how so many did his bidding and revered him. Its a shame as obviously these type of people are capable leaders who can inspire others with some purpose, but the cruelty of the World leads them to have ill intentions.
@lilliankeene80374 жыл бұрын
Everyone: ...Dutch? He... he saved my life. Javier: We didnt know each other, but found each other stealin' chickens and he kept me! Micha: I saved his life. Thank me later.
@marwan43584 жыл бұрын
Lol that's what seems to be happened 😂
@sci_pain34094 жыл бұрын
i feel like micah was lying about that
@marwan43584 жыл бұрын
@@sci_pain3409 Of course he was, that's what I was implying, he has to be an arrogant asshole
@thephoenix40933 жыл бұрын
@@marwan4358 its actualy true its why dutch kept him even if he tallked loke trash to other members
@collincaperton67183 жыл бұрын
@@marwan4358 no Micah did actually save dutch at this point in time Micah wasn't fully evil and I wouldn't say his evil roots came oit until around blackwater
@user-zp8sc2hv7s4 жыл бұрын
0:01 Sean : The first time i met dutch Subtitles : The first time i met *touch*
@BPANDS4 жыл бұрын
Bill’s emotion kinda gave me goosebumps. He’s such a lovable character.
@reddeadpufferfish52933 жыл бұрын
It’s quite sad, the end of the game really made me question why Bill didn’t help Arthur but his story really explains why. Dutch saved him so he wanted to save Dutch. 😢. Same with Javier in a way.
@sadieadler30654 жыл бұрын
Javiers story is kinda sad and the emotion in his voice always gets me
@laurajarpe15412 жыл бұрын
9:17 “oh Arthur, hello :)” the way Bill changed his tone after that heart-to-heart as if he weren’t there the entire time crouched up in his face
@MicahBell457 Жыл бұрын
İt was Reverend
@AlexKS19924 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense why Bill and Javier stuck with Dutch. I feel for Bill. At some points in our lives we are at times like Bill, Javier, Arthur or John. Sad, angry, lost and forgotten.
@drewomeara10054 жыл бұрын
honestly dutch just sounds like a cult leader manipulating all these young lost folk into believing in him
@sotsu6184 жыл бұрын
Mostly after Hosea died
@thotticussupremus47723 жыл бұрын
That’s legit what Agent Milton said to the group when he and Ross came for a Dutch lmao.
@mateocruz14202 жыл бұрын
Hosea would’ve stopped Dutch
@DawnsTower Жыл бұрын
Sean 00:00 Bill 01:25 Javier 04:05 Micah 06:17 Bill reprise 07:37
@MarcoGamer640Productions20123 жыл бұрын
I put so many hours and missed so many of these... It makes even more sense of why Javier and Bill were so loyal to Dutch, he saved them and they all saw him as his father figure... If only Hosea would’ve lived... His death just began the destruction of the gang as now Micah could manipulate Dutch without Hosea interfering.
@TheStoneyJackson4 жыл бұрын
This made me realize Bill was a deeper character than I thought.
@Culebrunch4 жыл бұрын
Bill had like the most heartfelt back story of how he met Dutch. Makes you really see how much Dutch gave to all these people, and really heartbreaking at the end when he starts going bad.
@dippy1472 жыл бұрын
these interactions are what make me think dutch wasn't a manipulator, these stories likely happened quite a long time before the set of the game, arthur even says that he was with the gang for 20+ years. you would think that if dutch was a manipulator he would have betrayed them sooner.
@shadowagent60514 жыл бұрын
There were two things impossible in 1899,those machines that can make a man fly like angels,and be able to like Micah.
@johannsebastianbach78464 жыл бұрын
TL;DW: The gang members tried to rob Dutch and he laughed and saved/fed them.
@Person-hw9ei3 жыл бұрын
Dutch: minding his own business Every gang member: so you have chosen… to get robbed
@Goji9383 жыл бұрын
John has this line in RDR where he says “it seemed like the only thing Javier believed in was falling apart and he took it hard.” And that just kinda makes the beaver hollow encounters with him that much more sad and desperate.
@fiammanerapatrick32152 жыл бұрын
I hope in Rdr3 we continue going back in the timeline. I really like these characters, and want to see more of them, especially in their prime.
@johnlad10884 жыл бұрын
I really love these like heart to heart scenes with members, It really adds that bit of character that really makes them feel alive, and you do gotta feel for them, like Bill and Javier, if you didn't hear these you'd probably just think of Bill as the camp drunk and Javier just a blank canvas, and it really makes sence why they sided with Dutch in the end because they really do owe Dutch there lives
@Aldo_LptllLoc4 жыл бұрын
Is so devastating watchin RDR after completing Rdr2.
@yep81094 жыл бұрын
Why did I tear up at Bill's story..
@Arthur_Morgan4594 жыл бұрын
Dutch was a good guy until Hosea died, that was when he allowed micah to get into his head, I feel if Hosea didnt die, he could've guided Dutch back.
@jug12434 жыл бұрын
Andrew Knepp the train car accident in San Denis also changed him, I bet. he was saying his head hurt after the crash
@thewholehorse71404 жыл бұрын
@@jug1243, Is that about the theory that Dutch gained a sudden personality disorder after he hit his head?
@jug12434 жыл бұрын
The Whole Horse ya
@thephoenix40933 жыл бұрын
No he couldnt stop dutch from killing bronte or robbing cornowall train so ur wrong
@zerstorungdeslichts47063 жыл бұрын
Dutch is a liar and manipulative, the reason he "adopts" people is for manpower alone.. He always lies to himself that everything he does is right. He speaks the word of god to his men in chap 2, yet in chapter 3, there's a little dialogue where he tells Arthur that goes like - everything is not real and their life has no purpose (he preach things from fiction or things he doesn't believe in to capture the hearts of people). You can also find a note/script of Dutch's speech in camp, which means anything he says is not by heart.. Hell, his lie is even effective to the audience/players who think he's a good guy lol.. That's why later in the story, both Hosea and Arthur says that instead of Dutch changing, he's showing on what he truly really is.. This further proves that in the ending, it hits him harder when he saw a kind dying Arthur was genuinely loyal to him, even if he always questions him in the end, Arthur gave him all he had out of kindness and not being brainwashed like his other followers.. He realizes he is far beyond redemption so he left him there and Micah
@kansascityscarecrow4 жыл бұрын
You know playing the first game it made Javier and Bill just seem cold-hearted... You can't help but have a soft spot for both of them because of this game, they actually sound human.
@rexraptor10943 жыл бұрын
Javier made me cry when he said, “You are my home now.” I felt that 😢
@emmiethekid8742 Жыл бұрын
Hosea looks greatly disturbed 2:00
@johnnykime24113 жыл бұрын
I love how they’re written out, as genuinely human people with genuine emotion under all their grit and walls.
@JesusChrist-bq6lu4 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough the last person I expected to be the most sympathetic for is bill he was a man so lost in life and scarred by the war spending most of his days drinking to dull the pain then he meets Dutch a man that can give him hope and a new purpose saving him from drinking himself to death and ending up like his father (bills father was an alcoholic) so I can understand why he stood with Dutch he felt he had a debt owed to him but it could never be paid
@Mattieromustdie4 жыл бұрын
2:34 man this shit got emotional
@arthurmorgan62884 жыл бұрын
Thank god it was Dutch and Hosea at the bar and not Colm
@nf20864 жыл бұрын
Arthur Morgan what do you mean
@nf20864 жыл бұрын
Amberlynns Gigantic Fupa well yea you’re right because Dutch always sees things in people
@kenjidayan75794 жыл бұрын
Amberlynns Gigantic Fupa maybe not cause he’s irish
@ivorydeluxe16724 жыл бұрын
One thing that always confused me is you can see how much loves Dutch but in the first Red Dead when John first meets him he says "no more Dutch and no more you" and the way he says it sounds like he's glad to be rid of Dutch and just have his own gang
@glasgowblackchigowski6117 Жыл бұрын
"Well sometimes he's a downright fool but usually, he's the best man i know" -Arthur Morgan
@signalslifeproduction75544 жыл бұрын
I want part 2 already..and thank you ..good day
@codenamezerogaming83333 жыл бұрын
Micah deserves CJ's "You're an asshole to the end" line when pulaski talked dirty about his sister
@tylerdurden3764 жыл бұрын
Can we briefly state again how awesome this game is.. All these emotional stories, which are already necessary for the story, are not imprinted on the player in any cut scenes.. No, we can experience them. Experience by listening to them. We learn a lot here what some game misses .. The ability to really see. To exercise patience and to understand the beauty of the moment.
@tracyrae48544 жыл бұрын
Facts Man Timeless Masterpiece😭😭😭
@terminallumbago64654 жыл бұрын
I love how RDR2 gives you exposition and backstory without force-feeding you and shoehorning it in. Everything feels natural
@missbelled67004 жыл бұрын
"Everything feels natural" is my favorite thing about the game. There's enough cinematic cut-scene tomfoolery in the story and the character writing seriously carries all that, but my most memorable moments are just meeting strangers and walking around camp and piecing things together myself. The world and characters are very deep for how wide everything is. There's so much detail that you can miss, since characters are constantly reacting to dialogue and actions and everything. When people started talking around the campfire, I was glad to be able to leave if I wanted, but most times I really wanted to stick around and hear it, because well, they're well-written tales, well-told. Good job, R*, you didn't get too heavy-handed with things (mostly).
@K-G-S_66 Жыл бұрын
I like this It tells you so much about the story and the gang without spoilers It helps me understand it more and enjoy my unfinished playthrough
@AsianAtTheDisco0092 жыл бұрын
its interesting to see Bill and Javier's camp interactions and stories, because it's moments like these that really explain why they did what they did in RDR1. You can see Bill Williamson falling back to this highway robbery gang society, because he ultimately saw that the ideals of Dutch were flawed and that the idea of free roaming family of bandits just wasn't going to work. To survive means to be strong and to be a ruthless leader. Bill Williamson embodies the harshness of Dutch while becoming a gang leader more akin to Colm O'Driscol. He was no longer going to let people bully him, but in turn he let's his violent ego encompass his personality. His interactions in camp already show that he never really felt like he belonged, so he would instead challenge everybody else and force them to acknowledge his place at camp, thus leading to a gang leader who violently let the Pinkertons and local law enforcement acknowledge his existence and kill those who try to deface him or challenge his authority. Javier on the other hand embodies Dutch's heroic and noble ideology. Javier earnestly believes in the romantic idea that Dutch preached and embodies those traits as a Revolutionary. Though he is still a criminal and a despicable man in the first game, you can see he ultimately wanted to be a heroic leader, but he just followed a bad example of one. Even in the camp at RDR2 he has this lone wolf kind of air to him, but all in all is one of the more noble and kinder members of camp despite his many crimes. Even he finds people like Bill and Micah deplorable but still admires Dutch to a fault. One becomes a loud mouth tough guy who can't stand the idea of being ignored and ridiculed. The other becomes a revolutionary and self deluded hero with a very very bad rap sheet. All because these men followed and put their faith in a man that has befallen onto his own ego and madness.
@tylerwyzard31344 жыл бұрын
When Sean told his story and hosea was sitting on the ground laughing it had me dead
@bettercalljg8742 жыл бұрын
We all want someone like Bill around.
@D881113 жыл бұрын
7:20 “Good day, gentlemen”
@rallo96354 жыл бұрын
Damn, hearing Sean’s story makes me miss the Old kind Dutch
@itchymgb27364 жыл бұрын
0:44 just 3 shots from kitchen gun
@mfs-3kiryu5924 жыл бұрын
Marry me
@itchymgb27364 жыл бұрын
Beast hunter Annatar im a boy
@joey93884 жыл бұрын
That one person that disliked this video is the rat of the gang
@nf20864 жыл бұрын
CupcakeChao “of”
@joey93884 жыл бұрын
ĀTx •{ᏩHᎾŠᎢ}• oof thank you -3-
@redtails30164 жыл бұрын
Bill talks about Dutch like someone who found Jesus or something
@marciolucena78953 жыл бұрын
So much history and background context, such a rich game.