5 Ways to Create Depth in Your Mix w/ Ganesh Singaram (Trey Songz, Pharrell) (FFL!)

[@enosisback]

So if you want to push something back in your mix : 1 Roll off low end and/or high end 2 Remove some transients (with transient shaper or compressor with a fast attack) 3 Use some reverb (Large room = long distance) 4 Mess with delay time (Long time = long distance)

[@AdimasDuvitra]

+Enos is Back you're saving so much minutes. thanks.

[@armanm246]

Thank you

[@aczibcultur]

thanks dude

[@MrTigerlore]

No man, you gotta dress it up! Draw me a chart. The info is not legit without a chart!

[@studiomomochannel]

Saved me a whole lot of time. I am grateful.

[@boypeanut5595]

"Try to close your eyes and hear the difference". Things got hazardous when I realized I was driving a car while listening to this. All in all great video! Made some notes as I got home!

[@D0olzBeatz]

lol lost within music for a brief moment

[@real.demesure]

Ride a horse for your safety !

[@That1Guy]

I love the wording “depth of field“ in this context. It made me think of the audio picture completely differently. Pushing things back just slightly out of focus and sharpening up the focus or transients or high end information to bring the “subject” forward

[@beberdepantin2667]

Here is a good teacher.... Clear, pragmatic examples, makes us hear what we look for before messing with the parameters... Wish him the best :)

[@ghoshneh]

This is probably the most comprehensive video I've watched on creating depth in music. The use of Compressors for adding depth was something I didn't know about. I'm very grateful for you guys to put this on KZbin. Many thanks.

[@xXxAmadeuzxXx]

this guy is a beast of a teacher. thank you

[@11dremoss]

Best example of compression I've seen in 10 years! So clearly explained

[@mantis834]

I've been producing and mixing for about 15 years, I even give private Logic tutorials on my spare time and really enjoyed this clip. The "kind of obvious tricks" as mentioned below may be just what one needs, beginner or seasoned alike. I thought Ganesh's approach in illustrating basic front-to-back placement in the soundfield by way of basic EQ and compression was quite refreshing. No finish line in this craft, we're always learning new things, at least we can always view certain things we do - any why we do them - from a different perspective. Nice one PBMS.

[@alanreadofficial]

Came to comment section to see if people are rating this guy, and im like really?, then I watch only some of the vid and im like yes really, this guy is a great teacher, most mixing engineers talk too much like this should be this frequency number, they turn it into a math class most techs talk numbers, but not this guy he confirms music is the art of listening and how we perceive sound, I was already doing some of this stuff already but this guy helped to solidify it for me, dude helped me just finish a mix I was restling with 🙌🏽

[@OmenAhead]

Really well made tutorial, good job! I just want to add that i think the best way to add depth with the reverb, is to use the dry/wet knobs. When you want something in the background just crank the wet knob and reduce the dry one and adjust the volume accordingly. Also sometimes it works for me especially for leads (in electronic music tbh) to clone the line, pitch it down 1 octave, put reverb, cut highs and very lows and layer it with the initial one. I have found out that more low mids/bass tones = more depth but you really need to be careful not to muddy it up :)

[@PhenyoPilatso]

Point Blank is the best online music school I've come across.

[@aRoyalAffair]

I usually do these things on intuition, this guy was great at putting words on concepts. Helped me think up some more creative/strange techniques based on this!

[@mb3official]

Not sure if I agree with using many different reverbs on different instruments. I think its a rookie approach which creates a non-cohesive sonic impression akin to different musical instruments recorded in different spaces. I would use 2 same reverbs (at best) in the song. First one with a very short decay (high passed upto 500 Hz) and then a long reverb (high passed up to 900 Hz). And will put reverbs ALWAYS on send (auxilliaries) rather as a channel insert. And most important, to create depth we need to create a dry reference point first. So some elements in the song must stay dry (besides kick and bass) to make sure the listener has a reference point to psycho-acoustically measure how deep is deep indeed.

[@pointblankmusicschool]

+MB TV Sonic cohesion is not always the goal

[@citizenstaefn9042]

+MB TV creatively speaking, that sounds quite boring.

[@mb3official]

+Citizen Staefn LOL ! So creatively speaking I suggest you use as many reverbs as you want (20, 30, 50, 100 .... as many as your creativity allows) and then listen back to your production. Actually, let us all listen to your production so that we all can share what a creative master piece you have articulated. I can not help stop laughing at the naivity of some rookies. At least now I know why we some times get to hear sonic mess of certain production...very, very creative eh !

[@mb3official]

+Point Blank Music School In music it is....unless you are creating a special effect for a sci fi or horror movie where there is a specific goal of creating different sonic spaces. You guys dont need to defend your argument always. You cant be right always.....even if its your youtube tutorial. Hope you get my drift buddy.

[@okidot]

+MB TV Think you missed the point! Precise usage of reverb is key, whether you use 1 or 4. The number is not relevant, but rather how they place elements in the mix.

[@andrhythm]

definitely one of the best FFLs you guys have put out. Great perspectives to view mixing from.

[@RelicLabzEntertainment]

The transient shaping was what i was missing, which was a golden tip

[@pointblankmusicschool]

Glad the video was of use.

[@AVenged13m]

dude this taught me things that are fundamental and i didnt know and im only halfway through.And i've been producing for almost 4 years like a maniac Knowledge comes from teachers you cant think of everything youself So i sit down like a good boy and i listen with my notebook taking notes, going into the daw checking the compressors etc Big ups

[@bwash333]

This tutorial is GOLD. Kudos to you AND that jacket! haha Thanks guys

[@Skyefaux]

This is one of the most useful production videos I've ever seen.

[@em8969]

Thankyou Ganesh, one of the best videos on Music Production 👏🏾👏🏾

[@richardschumacher6014]

Finally a video that describes all the aspects of depth. Thanks a lot!

[@gregg_msk]

Awesome video, but I have the only refinement. To my opinion PREdelay option in reverbs defines the signal source and the listener position in a room in terms of either signal source closer to the listener or to the back wall. So if predelay is close to zero it means that s.s. is closer to the wall if you add some predelay you are making s.s. being closer to you rather then to the wall which far from you. If you want to make some ambience treatment but you don't want to place the source backstage you need to encrease predelay.

[@REXONCROSS]

The best tutorial I have ever seen. Good teacher

[@yeshuacorp.4754]

Probably one of the best mixing tutorials/sessions I've seen thus far. Super informative.

[@KarasamaBeats]

This was an extremely great video on Depth. Thanks guys .

[@israelhwang4033]

So far the BEST of the BESTS tutorial about DEPTH MIXING!!!!!!!!!! Helps A lot.........THANK YOU GUYS

[@esoteric6178]

I came across a vst which really does this well, I wish I could remember the name of it but I'm driving. It shows you a picture of what looks like a symphony concert hall the seating fanning out from the orchestra, the upper and lower levels and you can literally drag a position in virtual 3d space which illustrates which depth your putting this sound in.

[@TheAlbiCollier]

Wow, please remember what that is. sounds awesome!

[@princesrc]

Did you remember it yet?

[@southernman2]

Really nice explanation of what the attack does on a compressor

[@debajitpalchoudhury1571]

Best mixing teacher 🙏 . My concept about depth is clear and I am confident. Thank you ❤️

[@boughtinerror]

You can use reverb on individual tracks but do it as a paralell chain. That way you get the full dry signal and 100% wet version that you can move up and down

[@arande3]

One weird thing I noticed about depth I didn't expect is that you hear it even on a tiny cell phone speaker. Now yes the resolution of that depth increases on a better system but still

[@SouthYarraMan]

Priceless information and so clearly explained. Ganesh Signaram, and Point Blank, thank you.

[@erictorres5935]

7 years ago and I’ve found it today . Great video and info . Subbed from me

[@ЭльвираШебанова]

video anda sangat bagus dan mempunyai mesej yang luas terima kasih

[@THENATAN]

Thanks A Ton "PB" And " GANESH SINAGARAM". The best tutorial I've ever seen About Depth. Thank You

[@arrrozcigala]

nice tutorial, the simple tips, but the real important to make a song sounds good with natural physics sound knoledge

[@JamesBermingham]

I learned something here ✊⭐️

[@vibhanshubiswas8729]

what not have I learned from this interview!! thanks!!!! now it is time to try this actually and practice is properly!!!

[@DaMonstaMuzik]

The visual idea is great, i learned that from The Art Of Mixing Book/Dvd series some years back. forget the guys name, but its on youtube alot now

[@thepinkjournalrehearsalpro5390]

Never understood these tools so well and how to apply them.

[@psychedelicpornmusic9526]

Wow, thank you so much. This tutorial was extremely helpful! You guys are the best! :)

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

Thanks alot for these tips. I tend to use paning, delay and reverb alot. Wich gives cloudy/muddy mixes. Ive tried to use ALOT less reverd, close to none, wich cleard my mixes extremly much. But far from great still. I will try to remember these tips :) THANKS again :D

[@wxxxbattle]

compression on delays on sends can also do wonders to your depth. (i use izotope trash because of the filtering not the most exciting delay for guitars and such but works wonder on synths)

[@elijahlucian]

When you are producing a track do you plan where parts should be and EQ them while you record? or just after? or wait until the mixing session itself.

[@elijahlucian]

***** yeah. Usually I locut things if they need it. Ok thanks for the tip.

[@pairadeau]

Ganesh is a beautiful mind. Bless.

[@BlackVybezwiththeflow]

This was helpful! Thnx!

[@Gemoct]

That's just excellent with excellent and sweet personies. Thanks!!

[@msubb5197]

Great, now I'm gonna be thinking about this all day

[@GregJay]

I have a question is it okay to layer a stereo track on top of another one and mastering them together? Is this a known technique? I did it by accident actually and both of them together sound terrific lots of balls and width ,I was wondering what would or could be bad with doing this ? right now I don't see anything ? but I am probably wrong, It makes it a lot deeper to me. Another question I have is it ever done where the 2 track mix is side chained to a nice reverb and just a touch of it added to the mix in the master? Or is that bad too? it sounds pretty good to me.

[@brandonwilson4265]

as long as you can here each instrument in its proper place(where you pan them)with clarity and depth!!! and EQ right!!!....there is no wrong way to be creative!!!....if it sounds good to the you.(the producer)...then who can say youre wrong!!!....cant look at Picasso painting and tell him bout his brush stroke!!!

[@y.f.6555]

And it is the opposite with release:fast release time brings vocals in front of the mix while slow release time is pushing them back to the mix.

[@Allan-et5ig]

di. m. regardless of what one thinks of Point Blanks pay structure and friendliness (not terrifically friendly for non-students as has been noted) no, you're wrong. mixing IS obvious. difficult but obvious. the simplest things are the hardest. When Singaram walked backwards and forwards to the presenter... is exactly what mixers of all abilities must constantly think about with regard to relative volume as it relates to detail. (Now, granted, I've only watched the first 10 minutes of this video, so I don't know if the point is belabored ad nauseum but at least in the first 10 minutes, points covered are the baseline from which all great mixes are created.)

[@tiico4344]

can someone explain the last answer to that question kick and sub compress i mean

[@MB1z]

thanks for all this info ,everything makes more sense .thanks again.

[@tostare]

This is great. Thanks for uploading.

[@krilin84]

Umm, what is he talking about regarding pre-delay - I've learned it's the time before the given effect kicks in and used to preserve transients...

[@WadeWoodring]

He did the example I use to describe mix placement but now I just use plugins for 3D arrangement.

[@petter9078]

1 thing thats not noted here. Is that when you mix in an untreated room, there will be flutter echo. Whats flutter echo? Look at it as a small natural reverb, in your room. This makes it hard to judge the tails on your samples, and could trick you to think instruments are further behind or in front of the mix than they actually are.

[@Fnelrbnef]

How do you put EQ on effects? The whole process please :P

[@Spaced_Invader]

Very nice... Really enjoyed this tutorial! Thanks

[@fojeba]

Great eye-opener tutorial :) Thank you very much!

[@lukasmrnka8312]

Thanks for this video guys! Cool stuff!

[@pbueno]

This was excellent! Thanks.

[@christock1973]

can´t find pdf to download!?!?! lol..

[@radatabass]

I agree that a low cut is a good way to add background depth to most elements. However I feel a kick drum is a bad example because when kicks or sub elements are far away the low frequencies are all you hear not the highs. Anyone that’s camped at a rave festival has experienced hearing that low frequency reverberated boom from afar. I️ would have cut the highs to give depth to a kick drum.

[@KosmoDeuz]

What is that blue lighted keyboard, somebody ?

[@WhatVideoWasThat]

what does he mean by delay triggering the reverb?

[@RicardoSilva-jj6rg]

Why does my Compressor look so different :S ? its the logic one too... older version maybe ?

[@andy-gee-2k]

Nice tut, but what I wonder most is about the reverb. I thought that to make a sound farther away, you need to bring down the dry amount... otherwise the voice still feels upfront, but of course the tail of the reverb sounds farther away. Isn't that a crucial process when using reverb for depth? Thanks for answering.

[@andy-gee-2k]

+Sain Code Thanks very much for your answers... I'll definitely keep that in mind. very helpful.

[@merowsProductions]

but if u look into stereo imaging image in google it looks like the lows and highs adjust that hight of the sound and volume adjust the depth, check out this video cus im confused kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYuXp2OFr6dgesU

[@asdfdsa16]

any reason why he does not gate drums? i usually gate at least kick and snare...

[@HersonAvalos]

If you can hear them there's no need to do anything else. You don't HAVE to do stuff just to do stuff.

[@DavidBoura]

05:55 "we'll make that available for download", lol ;D Great FFL as usual, thank you guys!

[@devoicedmusic]

+David Boura where is the download? i'm lost without the chart

[@DavidBoura]

+andmer here it is lol : s24.postimg.org/5p0g6g5tx/DOF_Chart.jpg

[@julianspruce6044]

+David Boura A true hero.

[@DavidBoura]

+Julian Spruce i agree, my best youtube comment ever ;)

[@DaMonstaMuzik]

+David Boura Have you guys ever seen The Art of Mixing?

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

where can I find the download for the diagram? ;)

[@i0like0water]

+SlayerDarkRaver couldn't find the original, but I hope this helps dude! www.londoncityairport.com/content/images/icons/wifi.png

[@jvanwijnen8915]

very nice tutorial guys, very helpfull

[@jeffking4604]

Excellent!

[@denzylmarbaniang5602]

Love the video helped alot. But talking from a mix point of view y'all should've used lapel mics. Cuz by moving your head left right centre. Your depth of field was all over there place. 😁😁😁😁

[@Msoundkim]

really helpful. thanks to Point Blank.

[@publicsaar]

35:50 "ZONE 6 BABY"

[@yijuncai8400]

It's good for the idea that who don't know the depth about music production and sound design.. allowed people and audience make sense what are you talking about. It's not good for sound designer majoring people to learn something as well.

[@doctorfroyd7794]

What plugins are used in this Video by Ganesh?

[@ottoskerb7316]

hes really great, thanks for dis

[@TheSIMBAJUDAH]

Thanks.

[@mehradmuse]

Hi, I think that was not a correct example by using a high pass filter on a kick to show its depth! In fact, the more you go further from an audio subject, the less you'll hear its high freq. in comparison with the Low freq. Just imagine a car with a loud Hi Fi system driving toward you ! At first you'll be able to hear the sound of "Booms" and then as it comes closer you'll hear the high freq. signals ! So, aside from using other effects, if you want to send your Kick Drums back of the mix, you need to roll off some high freq. and if you want to add more presence, you need to add more high freq. to it ! Same thing about Synth Pads, Bass, Leads, etc..

[@DavidPurton]

Distance causes roll off on both ends of the frequency spectrum, but the human "equal loudness contour" means we have less perceptible sensitivity in the lower frequency spectrum. So in fact, when things are distant you can lose sub harmonics and not notice unless you carefully study the sound. check out... www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/ear_sensitivity.htm

[@kevoh9843]

This is incredible, what a tutorial

[@saviovfx]

this is great information

[@imthimode3085]

This is great thank you

[@ufooooooooooooooooo]

Lmao near the end I thought he would've been like"zone 6 is a paid DLC which we won't be able to cover today."

[@recipiend5711]

Hi thank you for doing this. my question is what reverb is the most used in american rap vocal?

[@DavidBoura]

+Thinka Deep the no-rule rule applies, imho

[@richardtyson100]

If you're genuinely asking that you're clearly not a deep thinka

[@recipiend5711]

+Richard Tyson lol. you ll understand my question later. i did say anything. there is rule for everything and then you can decide to be creative by using what you have got or because you are limited

[@dg13barragan]

Brilliant !!

[@lorisharrissfactorpenumbra]

really really helpful video guys :)

[@jcommodore7899]

incredible !!!!

[@4partmedia]

24:50 Genius tip 🙏🤙🏽💯

[@aeneasremotemixing7381]

this was really helpful

[@dstollb12ghee]

this is great!

[@a.gromov3889]

Sorry guys but kinda obvious tricks this time. I was hoping someone will spread the light on how to make a cool depth like we can hear in Blende or Birdie productions. That would be really cool. Anyway thanks for all that you guys doing! :)

[@pointblankmusicschool]

+Di. M. We can't give away all our tips - they're just for students ;-)

[@AlexStavi]

+MrMezotar imagine students pay huge for something small like this examples in the video.. I felt that the host would laugh at some parts

[@metaZen]

+Point Blank Music School Yeah because the human race is all about money and not about cooperative evolution..cool..

[@metaZen]

+Point Blank Music School Yeah because the human race is all about money and not about cooperative evolution..cool..

[@mezzopotanic]

+metaZen there is lovely mixing guide/walk-through tutorial focusing on stereo placement on Farid Music channel

[@ruukaoz]

What? i thought you push further away the sound with a lowpass filter, not a highpass as it is shown in this video. I thought high frequencies die first, because of their shorter wavelengths. (lower energy and there are more obstacles for them, they bounce off everything.) So am i missing something, or is the guy just tired, or wrong?

[@DavidBoura]

+ruukaoz it depends, without obstacles lower freq go further, that's why we used them in AM radios. I don't know, i'm also confused to be honest.

[@OmenAhead]

+ruukaoz i think bassier frequencies = depth because higher frequencies give definition and when you hear a sound from far away you cant hear that definition. in a sound bass frequencies are the backbone of it (and the ones that you can hear from outside the club etc), mids give the "in your face" sound, and treble give definition and that "brilliant" quality (sorry couldnt find a better word). So yeah high passing isnt so good :P

[@subtstudio4861]

Love the concept using EQ and comp to change the depth. I tend to always make things upfront. Good lesson for me. Only criticism was the interviewer was as sleepy as the guest. Really boring! This was a 45 min video that could have been closer to 15 minutes. I appreciate the core of it though.

[@steveshields2293]

Interviewer was sooo cringy and out of place. Liked a drugged up Mr. Roger's. Yikes. Ganesh was a damn revelation though. Great vid overall really helped.

[@sovrappozisione]

lucky to hear this for free __O

[@marceloribeirosimoes8959]

The audio and video are really out of sync here...

[@vmercadillo]

Holy guacamole. Those plugins.

[@TheGamezCorner]

oh man i miss Ganesh's diagram drawings :)

[@AustinDouglas75]

"U want that Shit oops" Just got U a new subscriber lol