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@Almond199122 күн бұрын
Even in the intentionally losing category, Calyrex-S is too OP
@wienerrrrrrrrrrr2 күн бұрын
god i hate that stupid horse
@leaDR3562 күн бұрын
Just goes to show how strong the Horse council members are
@misalignedmisanthropist2 күн бұрын
@@leaDR356Calyrex-S is a fraud, he can't even learn High Horsepower
@sidhaarthnair83682 күн бұрын
@@leaDR356he doesn't learn High horsepower so should he be considered in horse council?
@RoninofCrimsonMaple2 күн бұрын
I still stand by that Grim Neigh is close enough to maintain its status as a horse.@@sidhaarthnair8368
@randomnessrules49712 күн бұрын
"Should I make this weird metagame?" "Sure, knock yourself out."
@Laezar12 күн бұрын
nice
@firemanking3271Күн бұрын
This comment is so good I could faint
@cranapple3367Күн бұрын
Familyguyhaha.mp4
@enigwa32863 сағат бұрын
LOL it's hilarious to see this. I'm Adrian Marin, the creator of 'Suicide Cup' (later called The Loser's Game). I'm proud to have created such a cursed metagame 😂
@werh2272 күн бұрын
Playing Loser's Game to feel like I'm winning by not using loser strategies and oneshotting everything
@isaacsimpson80982 күн бұрын
It would be pretty fun to see a bottom ladder full of people just doing this lol, playing losers game but both trying to win
@woomyboy982 күн бұрын
@@isaacsimpson8098 technically they would be the true losers by losing at winning by winning which is losing
@isaacsimpson8098Күн бұрын
@@woomyboy98 yes
@aprinnyonbreak1290Күн бұрын
This Broke: Playing Loser's Game to lose, thus winning Woke: Playing Loser's game to win, thus losing Bespoke: Ignoring the conditions of Losers game, and playing it to boost your ego or pull off combos that are too inconsistent to use otherwise, but really cool to pull off Ascended: Funbro in Loser's Game
@jrodd13Күн бұрын
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Funbro in losers game is just flat out evil 😂
@plhbuschannel2 күн бұрын
Fun Fact: In gen 7, Skill Swap Magic Guard is actually banned because people start running offensive alakazam to kill 5 pokemon and then skill swap magic guard and the opponent literally cannot die with heal pulse support
@olivergro71052 күн бұрын
Well shouldn't they have banned recycle leppa berry instead? :I
@irakyl2 күн бұрын
The fact that you straight up win if you stop just 1 of your opponent's pokemon from dying is what makes this so interesting, for the tourney I was trying to see if I could make it an actual legit playstyle like steel beam and court change but it's too inconsistent. Realizing that you can intentionally faint their problematic pokemon so the final one is exploitable was a eureka moment, but it still wasn't enough.
@FurryCombatWombat2 күн бұрын
Fun fact: as the guy in the video that did this strat, it does *not* stop the hp cut from Curse :/
@ViciadoSocialempires2 күн бұрын
LMAO
@The_Red_Scare15 сағат бұрын
What if the opponent had something like Mold Breaker which ignored abilities? Would Mold Breaker on the Alakazam prevent Magic Guard from forcing the opponent to live? And yes, I know they could just switch pokemon, but I'm asking if receiving an ability that ignores other abilities would override the strat if you couldn't switch pokemon for whatever reason.
@muishaggyblanco23492 күн бұрын
Finally… black sludge bisharp is its optimal set
@AMereFoolКүн бұрын
The CTC foresight be shiesty.
@brunoemf902 күн бұрын
I was waiting to hear Freezai do an 180 on his catchphrase “People play to win” when talking about tiers
@meadnex33119 сағат бұрын
Hey freeze sauce, ai here. People play to win...but what if they didn't?
@essentures2 күн бұрын
So I was not bad at Pokémon, I was just playing the wrong format
@ioioi_prx46392 күн бұрын
I'd be a millionaire if I got 100$ after losing
@nellewoodruff63372 күн бұрын
@@essentures Cue that one gen 5 preschooler quote about changing perspective
@500werewolf2 күн бұрын
Praise the almighty Calyrex-S! Even when it loses, it still wins.
@PatrickArcatoКүн бұрын
I really can't like that pokemon, first it doesn't even look like one, second it's designed by 12 year old stoner, way too strong
@SeaOfPixels7 сағат бұрын
@@PatrickArcato What seems to be happening is that Gamefreak makes sure to make the latest generation's main important Pokemon blatantly overpowered, so that they stand out in the generation. Sometimes they'll nerf them the next generation so that they don't overshadow the new important Pokemon (Zacian). Seems like they're trying to avoid another Reshiram/Zekrom situation?
@michabaron41292 күн бұрын
I like the deep dive into an obscure metagame and it was fun trying to come up with my own ideas about the format before learning the truth (i figured out SR court swap yay) but it would he nice to hear a smidge more about the final tournament match than "one guy lost other didnt" lol
@zachpro54752 күн бұрын
Funny uploaded after the meta game was unlisted for latter
@zdelrod8292 күн бұрын
Heal Pulse is insane in this format. Also, I didn't know Perish Song could be Baton Passed.
@firewall51892 күн бұрын
pokerogue taught me the hard way 😔
@SubugugitoКүн бұрын
@@firewall5189 my reaction when that mf pulls out a spiritomb against my gator (its totover):
@zaleww58248 сағат бұрын
All changes except status passes to pokemon
@SmugLookingBarrel2 күн бұрын
I remember trying to make a team around intentionally forcing the Endless Battle Clause game loss, where I would use Block, Fling a Leppa Berry and then Recycle it. Was disappointed when that didn't win me the game.
@Emilia-_.2 күн бұрын
what is endless battle clause?
@electrolapse70982 күн бұрын
@@Emilia-_.Endless battle clause is a clause that bans people from using specific moves that can create an endless battle, like using leppa Berry, fling and recycle. The idea of that is that nobody will run out of pp because the leppa berry will activate. It’s kind of hard to explain in one comment, but Freezai has a good video on it
@Skullhawk13Күн бұрын
@@electrolapse7098why don’t they just ban leppa berry straight up?
@rainbowthedragoncat6768Күн бұрын
@@Skullhawk13 bc you might want to use it for non endless battle purposes
@Skullhawk13Күн бұрын
@@rainbowthedragoncat6768 any examples?
@razorshell30492 күн бұрын
"Loser's Game" nah nah nah the OG Name is the "Suicide Cup".
@VixstraLarge2 күн бұрын
Ah yes, the chalice laced with cyanide
@zdelrod8292 күн бұрын
@@VixstraLargeBoeing Whistleblower Bash.
@lorekeeper6852 күн бұрын
@@zdelrod829 Like the guy from enumclaw?
@zdelrod8292 күн бұрын
@@lorekeeper685 not that one. The one that was supposed to testify.
@lorekeeper6852 күн бұрын
@@zdelrod829 you mean the recent two
@aldrichunfaithful35892 күн бұрын
a few ppl here were talking about endless battles, and it gave me a funny idea for a format which would basically be a race to trigger an endless battle. whoever gets their opponent stuck first wins
@GGreenHeartКүн бұрын
This would be such a blast!! Shame it would be literally impossible to build a computer to recognize a win 😅 But human refs in a tournament could work!
@aldrichunfaithful3589Күн бұрын
@@GGreenHeart i don't think it's too hard tbh. every endless trapper has to have recycle, heal pulse and a leppa berry, so once you get it going a computer could probably recognise that. the only cringe part would be people denying the loss with timer stall which already happens lol. also now that i'm thinking about it all the trappers would have to click a very telegraphed move that you'd switch out of to trap you, so the game would likely be about killing 5 mons to trap the last which would be pretty boring
@gengarisnotinsmash...2 күн бұрын
Obligatory "Finally, a format I'm good at!" comment.
@JavierGomez-px8xh2 күн бұрын
Black sludge bisharp is about to cook↕️↔️
@inferno7892Күн бұрын
It was truly ahead of its time
@tomorchard666018 сағат бұрын
Agency intelligence knew
@jpmac11192 күн бұрын
Playing in this was such a blast! Hope for more weird gimmick events like this in the future
@JaxOf711 сағат бұрын
"I fainted, making me the victor." "I must apologize for Sandshrew-Alola. He is an idiot. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke."
@VerbalLearningКүн бұрын
When you try to escape Calyrex Shadowrider by playing The Loser's Game. Calyrex Shadowrider: Nah i'd lose.
@axr17982 күн бұрын
At first I thought that the whole was going to be about gholdengo and damp pokemon like golduck, but there's a surprising amount of depth, this could actually be an official ruleset.
@davidknopp12082 күн бұрын
OGs remember when it was called Suicide Cup
@Generichoneydew2 күн бұрын
"comment on the video too, thats an order" ON IT BOSS
@sup37602 күн бұрын
the format where tera ice is strong is the one where you want to lose, thats pretty funny
@PotatoPrem21 сағат бұрын
tera ice is strong in normal format too bozo. Bolt-beam regieleki, jolteon, etc
@jebalitabb8228Сағат бұрын
@@PotatoPremno one uses those pokemon tho lmfao
@TheRageBaiter2 күн бұрын
It sucks that this is a challengeable OM and not an other metagame with a ladder
@almightymudkip38562 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to try Jumpkick recoil strats
@warmwater95092 күн бұрын
hear me out on a new tournament format: loser's game, expect that every other battle in the tournament, including the finals, is won by winning, ie making the opponent lose all 6 pokemon. It would be interesting to see teambuilding that's both good at fainting and killing
@Siinory2 күн бұрын
FINALLY!! A category for me! 8D
@Edujs232 күн бұрын
My mental cook was using Cinderace, a stealth rock mon, and 4 pokémon 4x weak to rock The stealth rock mon uses it, Cinder court change it, and then you just switch your mons arround The rock mon would need a way to ko itself tho
@sarraceniafell2 күн бұрын
found the one who didnt finish the video before commenting
@ohandthefracking2 күн бұрын
@@sarraceniafell LMFAO GAG THEM FOR ME
@leandro-eo7bd2 күн бұрын
watch the vid until the end
@nellewoodruff63372 күн бұрын
My mental cook is rocky helmet, trick, contact multihit turbo. Also could pain split be good?
@tardigrade80192 күн бұрын
@@nellewoodruff6337I also feel like truck leftovers could do something
@therealx290719 сағат бұрын
This format is just a full on comedy show on my little friend Sandshrew-A
@vanesslifeygo2 күн бұрын
it is just as difficult to intentional lose at rock paper scissors as it is to win. pokemon is rock paper scissors gone out of control. here we are again.
@Arcanine19952 күн бұрын
'free' and 'doesn't cost anything' mean the same thing
@Blanktester6852 күн бұрын
incorrect
@ShinyCyndaquil32 күн бұрын
@@Blanktester685please elaborate
@jqvy2 күн бұрын
L take
@imapaincake23052 күн бұрын
You have free space on your phone You have "doesn't cost anything" space in your phone. It wouldn't cost you anything to do more chores!! It would be free to you to do more chores!!
@ShinyCyndaquil32 күн бұрын
@@imapaincake2305 I understand what you mean but in this context wouldn’t it just be a case of one word having multiple meanings.
@thecornmaker8492 күн бұрын
You love to see electrode winning
@kemosonicfan123lbp2 күн бұрын
This is like that one chess variant except there's enough layers to it that it's not solved
@slushbucket7072 күн бұрын
finally a metagame where my goat Klefki is good
@raywtКүн бұрын
aww alolan sandshrew is one of my favorite pokemon.. i'm so proud seeing it be the best, even if it's just the best at being the worst
@noxiousroxie11 сағат бұрын
I didn’t expect the perish song + Baton LOL
@luislaracuente2 күн бұрын
This is fun and creative!
@et34t34fdf2 күн бұрын
This is hilarious.
@Ufo3208_2 күн бұрын
Dude I had so much fun in this tournament, but sadly lost to the guy who ended up winning the whole thing by me throwing a little bit 😅
@Zorin1Күн бұрын
Still interesting to see the sweaty strats in a meme format
@sagacious032 күн бұрын
Another neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Although, this meta sounds a little centralized, no?
@untossablesalad44232 сағат бұрын
Could you make a playlist with videos of yours that are like this? :)
@emilygordbort73002 күн бұрын
I was instructed by Freezai's discord to watch and comment
@meguy77352 күн бұрын
This is awesome
@Yas-gu1pj2 күн бұрын
İ feel like this video should have been a freezai live video
@justme143572 күн бұрын
Sounds fun
@NagKai_G2 күн бұрын
It was fun playing this tournament and format. I didn't even think about black sludge strats, so i lost on the second game, but i used a stealth rocks comp (although it was very poorly made as i created the team minutes before the tournament) with shadow tag gothita to lock a mon that couldn't easily die by itself after i set up stealth rocks and heal pulse + taunt till gothita dies. Very poorly explained but at least i won 2/3 games (1 win in tournament and another in post tournament game)
@ashross5860Күн бұрын
Kinda want to see a primary flying/grassy terrain combo being used to losing game equivalent of sand/hail chip
@axbox85432 күн бұрын
Could using trick with leftovers or choice items be a good strategy?
@nickhelmerКүн бұрын
Hi Jump Kick seems like the anti Calyrex tech. Also I imagine Trick + Leftovers would be interesting countermeta
@majorhoolahanКүн бұрын
I never thought I'd hear about a metagame so fundamentally hilarious.
@eeveewithcoffee95542 күн бұрын
I wonder if court change could be useful. Like switching stealth rock to a full rock double weak team that uses eject button
@eeveewithcoffee95542 күн бұрын
I swear I commented this like a minute before that part came up
@gravityvertigo13579Күн бұрын
Finally... The time of Sandshrew is at hand...
@zEr-ne5ri2 күн бұрын
When first hearing in this intro I thought I was having a stroke.
@user-yu8vu9xu5n2 күн бұрын
great video
@ashtonoak43702 күн бұрын
id use a mons magic bounce to give my own side hazards
@FeeN0mene23 сағат бұрын
This metagame makes me think about the move Torment. It's the move that prevents the opponent from repeating the same move twice. Is there a way for this move to be reliable ?
@leaDR3562 күн бұрын
My awful plays will make me win (lose) in this game too 💀
@fabian608720 сағат бұрын
The stealth rock strategy should be called 'Self-Rock'.
@FishGamingRealКүн бұрын
Cant wait for the day Freezai popularizes Balanced Hackmons and I can say I was there "before it was cool"
@ashtonoak43702 күн бұрын
i guess because id never do it, but never knew baton pass could pass perish song till now, and i now also see how i blew one of my pokerouge runs as i didnt know HOW perish song killed me after i baton passed out
@Brandon_Hardie16 сағат бұрын
FINALLY A W FOR MY BOY ALOLAN SANDSHREW
@Timeflow_X2 күн бұрын
I've actually been hoping someone would cover the loser's game so much because I don't have a good handle on the meta just from the forums
@esrohm646021 сағат бұрын
i wonder if you could make a stall team in this so that you can stall out your opponents ways to die and when they start to struggle is that recoil slower than whatever other method you use. or if we want to be funky try to get a last pokemon scenario and then get on that pokemon normalize while having a ghost team/terra ghost.
@sloowbroo2 күн бұрын
Me when Freezai tells me to comment on his video (its an order)
@crazydov5 сағат бұрын
So cool
@JoSephGD2 күн бұрын
surprised that trick isn't a niche strat here. just give the opponent leftovers or a berry!
@TTLunar2 күн бұрын
Yo waddup here for support
@cryochick90442 күн бұрын
Im surprised torment isn't used. They wanna steel beam spam? They can't use it twice in a row
@underrated1524Күн бұрын
Too slow
@sloowbroo2 күн бұрын
Not using floober is a fraud move ngl
@Undergroundrising-c4jКүн бұрын
Black sludge sheninja is peak Paul mentality.
@plaguekidd6902Күн бұрын
I love sandshrew of any kind. Just a cute little critter that you love to see winning- I mean losing.
@gregorymirabella142315 сағат бұрын
I thought Sandshrew only became steel type after it evolved, I guess I had it mixed up with Vulpix.
@Zoroarkarceus1232 күн бұрын
Mime Jr. would probably be a nice niche pick if it was available, because it can get Soundproof and Skill Swap and do what Clefable does but for Perish Song users. Plus, it's weak to Steel Beam, so hey
@DoggyP0018 сағат бұрын
baton passing perish song is so funny
@PrivateUser1667Күн бұрын
I have never heard Steel Beam so much in my Life
@biospark47583 сағат бұрын
I wonder if Pain Split would have a niche here. Run disruption tactics while your opponent is lowering their own HP and then equalize both your health bars
@timskrobot4025Күн бұрын
I'm surprised I didn't hear about the move False Swipe or the Sticky Barb item. If you're forced to attack, false swipe would be a good option and Sticky Barb would be good if there are restrictions on items like Black Sludge.
@baumina170614 сағат бұрын
if youre forced to attack, snore always fails (except for a few nice scenarios)
@analoghabits92172 күн бұрын
another ruleset could be your opponent uses the team you bring
@kitchaos1118Күн бұрын
is high atk confusion viable in any way? you can deal a ton to yourself if you get attack very high
@JackieJackJackerJackyКүн бұрын
It's not viable because it's just not very reliable. Having high Attack means you'll be dealing a lot of damage to your opponent. There's also very few ways to apply Confusion on yourself. Moves like Outrage and Petal Dance takes 2-3 turns meanwhile eating a berry that matches your Nature heals you which is counteractive. I haven't even mentioned that Confusion is not only temporary but you also only have a 33% chance to hurt yourself every turn.
@tysondennis1016Күн бұрын
I remember when it was called the Suicide Cup
@FunniClapboard20 сағат бұрын
Electrode with self-destruct 💀
@leonshirogane5541Күн бұрын
Calyrex shadow still at the top even when you play to lose.
@anonanim-96013 сағат бұрын
This would a cool april fool's day exclusive event
@dshifter7Күн бұрын
Kinda surprised some Swagger/Flatter - Thunderwave set isn't a thing yet! Thunderwave to prevent other status effects and minimize chances for effective turns, 1-3 Swaggers/Flatters to boost the opponents stats to encourage better ko chances. Run Shadow Tag/Arena Trap/Block to keep that opponent's powerful pokemon in, easy few ko's, right? What would be the downside to this minus the setup?
@xian2themax2 күн бұрын
I play this mode with court change stealth rock and then the rest of my Pokémon 4x weak to rock. If the opponent has defog it’s tough, but if they don’t it’s an easy win
@ktvx.942 сағат бұрын
Even when you're trying to lose, fairies are still top tier
@Nirakolov17 сағат бұрын
Is a high-hp painsplit pokemon valid?
@ExcellsionКүн бұрын
Now this is podracing.
@DiegoG200413 сағат бұрын
How am i not shocked that even losing is hyper optimized to basically one strategy
@guntergunter2750Күн бұрын
I missed the time he talked about sandsrew, you know, the pokemon in the titel!
@lilfrogman039518 сағат бұрын
I'm surprised pain split isn't used bc if you use it on a low hp mon you heal them while you drop. Especially if at full hp idk might be a sleeper pick
@tinkerermelon65994 сағат бұрын
Is Prankster/Copycat viable in this format at all? It seems like it'd be an interesting way to counter certain aspects of the format. Copy Steel Beam with priority off a non-STAB body for major self damage + constantly being able to reverse the effects of Court Change? +it's an unusual move unlikely to be locked w/ Imprison.
@failurefiend2 күн бұрын
Hmm a doubles mode could be interesting
@justinfriedman2039Күн бұрын
Has anyone tried using trick with either AV or Sitrus to disrupt Steel Beam strats?
@mjdxp56882 күн бұрын
Ah yes, of course: The best Pokémon are Calyrex-S and Sandshrew. Seems legit.
@thenextdoor6962 күн бұрын
Do a 35 Pokes video!
@BlackReaper04 сағат бұрын
Very interesting metagame.
@rell660Күн бұрын
My brain doesn't work in a way where I'd purposely try to lose in Pokemon. It's a very interesting game mode. Lol