Pokémon Red & Blue Hardcore Nuzlocke - DRAGON TYPES ONLY! (No Items/Overleveling)

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Welcome to another challenge video! Does the Meatball have the skills to get through, or is this one of the dreaded "impossible" challenges? Well find out as I attempt to complete a Pokemon Red & Blue Hardcore Nuzlocke with only DRAGON TYPES! Err... Dragon type.
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Rules of the challenge:
Normal Nuzlocke Ruleset:
1. Fainting = Death
2. Can only catch one Pokémon on each Route (Species Clause)
3. Nickname Pokémon
Hardcore Nuzlocke Ruleset:
4. No items in battle (held items okay)
5. No leveling past the next gym leader/E4 (at the START of the battle)
6. Play on "Set" battle mode
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[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

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[@zdelrod829]

Excited for the Bug Monotype Hardcore Nuzlocke in LGPE. My first shiny in it was a Weedle in Viridian Forest, full odds, and before even getting halfway through Viridian Forest to get to Pewter City.

[@TheSphero]

You know, the reason so many dragon trainers have non-dragon pokemon is because most of them are still part of the dragon egg group. It might be interesting to run with that, as a sort of breeder-locke run where you only use pokemon from a specific egg group.

[@___TheDreamkeeper]

I’m just letting everyone know, the Vanilla versions of the gen 2 games are impossible to nuzlocke with psychic types because the only possible encounter before falkner is Exeggcute through Headbutt trees

[@theepickyo]

What about unknown?

[@marjoriejohnston4905]

@@theepickyo Other than being pretty bad in the stat department, you run the risk of getting one with HP Ghost or Ground and they can run. That's even if you can get one before Falkner

[@workingdad813]

Catch unown until you find one that has HP rock. That'll take care of Falkner AND Bugsy

[@razorshell3049]

Bugsy is never an issue, you can just set up curses with slowpoke vs metapod lead.

[@danieledwards4310]

Unown is available before the first gym?

[@kingnick710]

I like Pokemon, and I like meatballs. This might be a good channel for me 😋

[@paulwhite7449]

Pokemon challenge aside. Congrats on the massive weight loss Meatball!! Thats awesome!

[@krullachief669]

My man decided "Nah, let's solo this" and did it, absolute lad. Even got two 1/256 glitches in the E4, otherwise known as a Pokemon Stadium 1/256 glitch proc chance. Also uh, why's the Gold/Silver Dragon monolocke impossible? Just what about it makes it actually impossible compared to the explained cells for Fire and water going over the level cap? Asking because I don't remember if you ever explained that one specifically in a video.

[@razorshell3049]

Thats because wrap doesnt have the same effect in gen 2. The moves doesnt provide the opponent to move anymore in gen 2. So you are stuck with only wrap which deals 0 damage and thus need to rely on struggle but falkner has 2 pokemon that deals you decent damage. I m not even sure if you can beat the first trainer in the gym since he has a lvl 9 spearow with peck.

[@Giosue3465]

@@razorshell3049 You'd have to tweak the rules a bit because the only other dragon in gen 2 is Kingdra, so it may be possible if you allow Horsea/Seadra to be used.

[@krullachief669]

@@Giosue3465 I mean, theoretically that is in the ruleset for monolockes. As long as a pokemon evolves into the used typing you can use their previous evolutions. It all just depends on if that clashes with an actual rule of hardcore monolockes or if it's an unspoken one that hasn't been set forth in writing

[@krullachief669]

@@razorshell3049 I asusme you mean 0 damage to ghost types of which you need to get past at some point. But beyond that yeah that would definitely kill the run.

[@acdcljb]

@@Giosue3465 Imho, he could have used Seadra in this one. However, a nuzlocke with only one Pokémon is that much cooler.

[@ArgentHat]

Taking it upon yourself to try to complete that missing run spreadsheet is cool. Best of luck to you! Having to abide by a Level Cap and having to ration experience is a time and a half. Luckily Dratini was in the slow group, but I can definitely see this posing an issue for you in the future. Will be interesting to see how you handle it! Also, just in case it slipped your mind, Blizzard in Gen 1 has 90 accuracy which may be worth using over Ice Beam if you desire the extra power (less PP is a trade off too, but who needs that!) Good luck with the future runs!

[@SooperE123_]

When I saw this run on the spreadsheet I was wondering how it would be done 😂 great work!!

[@slateportraichu5416]

Yay, new video=3 Wishing you a nice week!

[@moblinmajorgeneral]

Water is possible for GS because the speedrun route has Totodile at Level 9 for Falkner

[@workingdad813]

Water is very possible. I'm in the middle of using just Johto water types and Totodile with Rage completely ran through Falkner, Bugsy, AND Whitney.

[@moblinmajorgeneral]

@@workingdad813 Look at the spreadsheet and see that he marked it that it wasn't possible because of Level caps because he believes Totodile will be Level 10 before Falkner

[@workingdad813]

@@moblinmajorgeneral if you skip Sprout tower then you should have no issue with being underleveled. In GSC Sprout tower is optional

[@krullachief669]

@@workingdad813 Just G/S iirc. C I think you actually need to do it but I could be gaslighting myself here.

[@ivanbluecool]

They really need to revamp more gen 1 and 2 pokemon with new evos. I can see some of them be good dragons or find some special typings to balance then out. Would make when kanto gets another remake more interesting

[@connortg5]

pokemon draconic blue or something

[@henrymars6626]

Congrats on the weight loss!!!!!!!!!! I am so proud of you!!!!!!!

[@tuvyamaeir4684]

Legends Arceus with Ground should be a lot of fun considering the overpowered Ground types you have access to. I'd pen that one in fairly soon if someone else hasn't claimed it.

[@Tazznessa]

Love this types

[@ISwearImNotADoorbell]

Great video! I saw the chart and since I really like monotype runs, I was looking into FR/LG because they're my favorite games. And uh... I'm pretty sure FR/LG Rock Hardcore Nuzlocke is mathematically impossible. First, your encounters. Oh, sorry. Encounter. Geodude. Geodude's moveset is... fine. It gets things like magnitude, rock throw, etc. So, it can deal damage, that's not the problem. What is a problem is the level cap. Before Misty, you have a cap of level 21. Even with exp from Staryu, you're only at level 22. At level 22, Water Pulse from Starmie is a guaranteed ohko. Even if you have 31 IVs, 252 Evs, and a SpD boosting nature, AND the Starmie gets the lowest possible damage roll, it still deals I think ~105% damage. So, uh, you're not tanking it. That leaves Geodude with one option: Outspeed and one-shot the Starmie. And then comes problem number 2. You also can't do that. Again, 31 IVs, 252 EVs, Spe boosting nature, even though the Starmie has no EVs or IVs, it's still faster, by a lot. Funny enough, if Geodude COULD actually hit the Starmie, they could win. All it would take is good luck with magnitude. Also, the next rock type after Geodude is Onix in Rock Tunnel, and... good luck getting there without going over level 21. It actually MIGHT be possible in Red and Blue, though. Why? Because gen 1 AI sucks. Starmie has Bubblebeam, but ALSO Water Gun. And while Bubblebeam is a guaranteed OHKO on Geodude, if you have High DVs, are at level 22 from the Staryu, and have a smidgeon of stat EXP, you have a CHANCE to not get one shot by Water Gun. Then, if you crit with Dig, which is your only viable move for this fight, good luck not overleveling, you WILL OHKO the Starmie if you have High DVs, good stat EXP etc. I'd love to see you prove me wrong though, if you could do either of these, that would be mind-blowing just because of Misty. tl;dr: Rock hard.

[@billyfaulk6789]

What a beast

[@bentleyplays-ox4bl]

Pokemon Red and blue hardcore nuzloke dragonite only

[@ThexZeldaxChampx90]

I am actually attempting a Dragon only run of Sword right now and the only hurdle was Ballonlea This is not a HC Nuzlock and I am allowing mons in the Dragon egg group So with that said, D. Dance Gyarados with Waterfall/Ice Fang was the saving grace I needed for Opal

[@bobthebuilder5235]

I’m in the er right now and will still watch you videos

[@philipspigelmeyer959]

You should do ice or eletric types next. Whatever game I just wanna see one of them.❤

[@dannogsus2184]

Bro the high roll mbt got on those dino pulls was insane 😂

[@cgleon5639]

i found it good that we in germany has also kinds of that sugarfree energy powder :D

[@Tuxdrama]

So many gen 1 dragons... Even lance the bird keeper i mean the dragon tamer could agree with me

[@FroststormFrenzy]

Fun Fact: Outside of Unova, Lance is specifically a "Dragon trainer," not a Dragon *type* trainer. This is an important distinction, since not all dragons are Dragon-type, and not all Dragon-types are dragons, so that's why Lance usually uses non-Dragon type Pokemon

[@sooooooooDark]

uh that dratini back sprite is genuinely surprisingly great

[@acdcljb]

What about Gen 1 runs with Steel, Dark, Fairy? Steel would be a run with Magnemite and Onix. Dark could use Eevee and Magikarp (since Mega Gyarados is part Dark). Fairy would do with Clefairy, Jigglypuff and Mr. Mime. If not feasible with such small encounter pool, counting the regional forms as well would add a handful of mons.

[@metaljay77]

I did not realize gen 1 Dratini looked so.. weird. 5:59 he shows the front sprite and that is not at all what I remember.

[@Peelster1]

Looks like for Blaine and Giovanni you used the Yellow level cap numbers on your graphic. You were still inside the actual level cap though.

[@DefectiveLotus]

I'd argue it is possible in a vanilla copy if you trade your Starter for a freshly hatched Dratini from gen 2 IF you used ACE or RNG manipulations to give the Dratini the same OT/ID so it would always obey you instead of behaving like a traded Pokemon.

[@delaneymcdonell5774]

Ok so I looked at the list….is A Nuzlocke of ORAS/RSE with Ice Types on Cartridge Even Possible? Most of the Encounters are either at Shoal Cave or DexNav

[@marjoriejohnston4905]

The most ridiculous Elite Four fight I had was a damageless bout with Caitlin using a Zoroark disguised as Emboar. Other than one miss with Thunder, she kept using Psychic the whole time

[@rb4734]

I'm a subscriber for a long time. So can't help you with the 300k

[@Darthskippygp]

Do a "Fairy" only run in gen 3 where you only use mon that will be fairy in the future. I've looked into it a while back and you can get a team of around 5 including Gardevoir, Granbull, Clefable, Azumarill, Mawile

[@acdcljb]

There is a couple more, for example WIgglytuff.

[@Traysandor]

The real challenge was mostly surviving the early game. Once you got access to real moves and the power of Dragonite it was basically a free win as long as the RNG gods didn't curse you with a miss at a critical time or awful status luck.

[@luizbezerra4373]

I suggested once and I'll suggest again: to make a dark-type run in FRLG, why not using the dark pokemon encounters you can find at Kanto on Johto games? Not only you can find Houndour and Murkrow at Route 7, and Eevee at Celadon, but you can also find Poochyena at Route 1, Seedot at Viridian Forest, Sableye and Absol in many caves, using Hoenn Sound, in HGSS. You could give yourself a new dark pokemon after each badge or each of these guys after going through the maps they appear.

[@acdcljb]

You could also count Magikarp since Mega Gyarados is Water/Dark (in the future).

[@FelixSonntag1995]

I am just saying: horn drill cheese - would 😂

[@bryceflippin9579]

I would like to see Diamond/Pearl with fighting types. Honestly surprised it hasn’t happened yet but maybe my head is wrong about the encounter table

[@bryceflippin9579]

Yeah you can get Infernape, Machamp, Heracross, Medicham, and Lucario and if you can beat Yellow with only one encounter that should be a walk in the park. Especially with the Fire type only being beaten with only Infernape and Rapidash. I got fixated on this but great video keep it up

[@oddgodd2273]

If you’re already using quality of life hacks and others to get a new starter you may as well using one that stops giving you experience at the level caps so all the runs deemed impossible due to over-leveling are now possible

[@LynnGryphon]

I didn't hate the manta mask but it wasn't my favorite - I went back to my cheap Walgreens one. My sibling adores theirs tho.

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

That's fair, but I'm glad your sibling is enjoying theirs, I'm still enjoying mine!

[@F4Ucorsair2]

I forgot how bad the old spites look like. But it did unlock a remedy for me

[@Gammatia]

cool

[@davidhoskin7176]

lol wrap in gen 1 was broken

[@nickgohan346]

Dzeef came out of nowhere

[@icaruzblake]

Gen 2 Bug run! Or Gen 1 Electric!

[@Elite4koga]

Aka dragonite only run

[@bleeborg]

Do ORAS ice next. Only 2 left in that game to do.

[@Nelsito99]

If other gens or games need a not to be hacked in why not give rare candies to not worry about level cap by getting to or near the gap just before the boss fights

[@benjaminleo7011]

The sprites in this game are awesome

[@Giosue3465]

I am humbly requesting you to release the Dragonite Goonsesh.

[@MoonLordSlayer]

please do Red/Blue Ghost next

[@dontaethechosenone6543]

No Horsea?

[@sooooooooDark]

such a shame that back in the day jan from pokemon challenges established the level cap to be the "highest level pokemon level of the upcoming gym leader" to be i told him "average level of the upcoming gym leader (rounded as normal in math)" is fairer against the Ai but he didnt listen and now it is how it is yea sure its easier to calculate but that gives leaders a huge advantage to the advantages the player already has by being able to use 6 mons and type advantage - it also emphasizes the gym leader's ace more as a de facto ("overleveled" threat) raising the stakes in some other (better 😥) universe average gym leader level stuck instead of highest as level cap

[@TungstenArm]

Steel type Emerald locke? Impossible? Hm. Imma try it anyway for my first recorded monotype run. The encounters are Aron, Magnemite, Skarmory, and Mawile- not a terrible team, though Beldum would have been nice, so what’s the problem? First encounter’s not until after the first gym in Aron, and then you just have to go beat Br…awly. With a steel/rock type. Ohhhhhh. That being said, if the rules allow for replacing a starter to ensure you have an encounter before the first gym, couldn’t I just replace one of the starters with a magnemite or a skarmory? What are the rules about that?

[@ThatWarlockBoi]

I would argue if you replace a starter it should be with the first vanilla encounter available and you forgo that encounter later

[@DrFerno727]

I mean, in the manga, Sapphire managed to beat Brawly with her Aron/Lairon, but she also had a Combusken

[@acdcljb]

Be a brave guy, add Nosepass as well. If that helps at all.

[@ThatWarlockBoi]

@@acdcljb probopass didnt exist in gen 3

[@acdcljb]

@@ThatWarlockBoi That is why you should be brave. And include mons which get Steel-type (evolution) later.

[@phillipk4196]

wait what about getting more dratinit but evolving the ones you get later? up to 3 dragons.

[@connortg5]

dupes clause probably

[@krullachief669]

@@connortg5 I mean, he doesn't always follow dupes clause if it's funny enough, but I figured more that this just makes the video more entertaining to watch and the run more interesting.

[@MissYorkGiants]

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO do mono fairy in let's go P/E the first Jessie James in MT. moon is a brick wall.

[@robticninja1315]

Hey Meatball I’m doing a monolocke of platinum with only ice types and I was wanting to watch your video about it since it says on the spread sheet you’ve done it but I can’t find the video anywhere. Am I just being blind or is there a mistake on the spreadsheet?

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

This isn't just the runs I've done, these are runs that have been done by various creators all across KZbin. The Platinum w/ Ice types one was done by SilphSpectre and all of them are linked on the spreadsheet!

[@robticninja1315]

@@ChaoticMeatballTV ah ok that makes sense thank you Meatball

[@DiamondHackerz]

Whilst i understand its for simplicity. Calling things non “Vanilla” when you can absolutely do it in the vanilla game confuses me. As someone who always grew up with either 2 copies or someone to trade with, starting a save with whatever Pokémon has always been possible. I know game freak made it so you can’t trade until the 1st gym but even then its still very possible and in gen 1 you can do it from the first town. Also with a level cap it doesn’t matter so much that your Pokémon dont obey and level faster. I know it’s pedantic but Pokémon is a franchise built on trading. Also im fairly certain you can wondertrade really early gen 6 onwards too :D

[@zalkarkazakbaev6691]

why not catched other dragons in game corner & safary zone? i know nuzlocke was easy with 1 dragonite starter, but you could have team of 3 dragons

[@buttahXD]

Nuzlocke rules, you can't use multiple of the same pokemon. Buying/catching dratini would break that rule, and there's only this evolution line in gen 1.

[@krullachief669]

@@buttahXD Technically that's an optional rule, Dupes Clause to be specific, but it is one Meatball typically follows unless it's really funny like his ghost only monolocke of gen 2.

[@zalkarkazakbaev6691]

@@buttahXD he used multipal gengars with misdrevus against red in mono ghost crystal chalange

[@acdcljb]

@@zalkarkazakbaev6691 Probably just thinking a nuzlocke with only one mon is cooler. Being pseudo-legendary also helps, I doubt one Dragonair could do it alone.

[@zalkarkazakbaev6691]

@@acdcljb thanks

[@ordinaryalan]

Jrose11 beat you to it.

[@creltry1756]

Ground types in Pokemon Black and White please

[@tobiasrheker5738]

there isn't a special def and special atk stat just one special stat in gen1

[@Blackie3991]

Bro every 90's Kid know dragon type was OP in gen 1. Not muth of a challenge tbh

[@Wh0sthatguy]

Day 9 of asking for a pokemon conquest nuzlocke 👉 👈