Something I figured out in Pokemon design is that all of them have to take into account how they'll be transformed as merch. That includes plushies, keychains, etc. Simplifying most shapes (complicated forms becoming just circles/triangles) or having just 3-5 colors as opposed to an entire spectrum just fits the Pokemon design perspective more.
@ArceusDX Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a pretty good way to describe it, they need to work as toys/plushies/etc
@albond Жыл бұрын
Also in older gens they had limited colour palettes to work with so they had a strict limitation on the number of different colours
@solosaf6754 Жыл бұрын
THIS!! SPECIALLY with starters, my philosophy for them is that if i cant see them turned into plushies in the same shelf of sanrio and kirby characters plushies, they need to be simpler/cuter, since startes NEED to be plushie-able for comertial reasons, and achieving that is what gives you the official look
@Tony_AM0097 ай бұрын
Agreed. There is another factor that I think gets taken into account when designing Pokémon: the anime and possibly in-game features and/or battle formats. Let me explain. Most or at least numerous people understand that Incineroar is based off of heel wrestlers, tigers, and a professional wrestler known as Tiger Mask. However, a thought occurred to me recently, and I apologize if I'm late to the party on this. I think Incineroar was designed with both the Battle Royal and the character/alter-ego Masked Royal in mind. Either Incineroar came first, the Battle Royal came first, the Masked Royal came first, or these ideas came about simultaneously. Additionally, Pokémon need to be designed with both the anime art style as well as the Pokémon anime in mind, regardless of whether or not they'll be plot relevant. If you can't set them in even one anime episode, the design may either need to be reworked or scrapped.
@gabrielgoes0Ай бұрын
Which kinda sucks honestly
@ALoversRose Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a follow-up where those that took Ron's advice and redesigned them, show them off.
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Or replied with their rationale at least
@ldmassey Жыл бұрын
Yes! I second this.
@teasingmarmalade4537 Жыл бұрын
Yes I third this!~
@Imani_Imdustries11 ай бұрын
@@teasingmarmalade4537I have never seen anyone use the little ~ before, and I honestly love that for you. Have a good one, fellow internet stranger 🤝
@cristalesbrand2 ай бұрын
@@ldmasseybot
@Adewayy Жыл бұрын
18:00 For different colors, it would've been cool if it was like aging copper going from orange to a greenish color to show the progression of the pokemons age.
@MeloniestNeon Жыл бұрын
That would tie in the Steel typing perfectly! It'd also make the wise, ancient dragon aspect even more prevalent. So many designs are made by talented people that just lack that little bit of a second opinion and some brainstorming, like what Gamefreak actually has! Stick these artists all in a room together and have them make a Pokedex working together, and it'd come out perfect!
@borealmind Жыл бұрын
Well while my designs did not make it into the critique part I saw them on screen (0:27) for a split second😁 that’s close enough for me^.^ congrats to all the designs that got chosen. These kind of videos are super helpful even if your designs do not get picked. Amazing opportunity for artists to learn and develop their skills. Hope the video does well!
@eeveegirl5189 Жыл бұрын
I always learn so much about how to improve my own character designs whever I watch your art videos. Videos like these that give genuine critique while also being so positive are so encouraging 💚💜!
@jorodgers9333 Жыл бұрын
I know and I like how he points out in detail good points and what need improvement
@eeveegirl5189 Жыл бұрын
@@jorodgers9333 yes! He never just says it's a good or bad design. He always explains what makes it a great or not great design.
@darknesswave100 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what a lot of people who critique stuff do wrong. They're overly critical on the design. Ron instead gives positive feedback and says oh if you tweak this a little, then it might work better. Positive words encourages people to change something rather than being critical and saying change this or it's not good
@bilsuart Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see so many great Fakemon artists in this one! And some really valid critiques! Even though Pokémon are simple at their core, they’re still hard to master designing!
@LGreat16 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bilsu!
@PragMagik Жыл бұрын
I think all your critiques were pretty valid! Some great Fakemon in here!
@ArthurTheRedhead Жыл бұрын
True
@matoxetu Жыл бұрын
ur fakemon are also very good, but how could you comment here a day ago
@ArthurTheRedhead Жыл бұрын
he is a member
@doctorstrange9202 Жыл бұрын
@@matoxetuhe has magik in his name for a reason
@ItsMeVenusaur Жыл бұрын
Petition for Ron to make another episode of redesigning Fakémon Edit: Man, that's a lot of people who are agreeing with me
@PurpIe.Potato Жыл бұрын
Signed
@ghifariasoka8272 Жыл бұрын
Seconded
@Malta-nh7hj Жыл бұрын
Yes
@ArthurTheRedhead Жыл бұрын
Another sign
@Gigamungusintheflesh Жыл бұрын
He can't ignore it if Lord Gigamungus signs
@ASCENSiON_11 ай бұрын
As someone who's planning on designing Fakémon soon, I'd absolutely love for this series to continue with a part 4! I feel like I've learned a lot from your critiques before even having drawn a single Fakémon!
@carriedehoff4597 Жыл бұрын
I NEED another episode of Redesigning Your Fakemon!!!!
@SmartAlec86 Жыл бұрын
The expression of the Steel type is actually referenced in the colors. All I have to do is point to the Statue of Liberty. When copper oxidizes, it becomes that pale green color. I suppose the color doesn't make sense for it's 1st form since it's not a steel type yet. Perhaps the first form should be more brown like copper and without those scale-like plates. It's second form is mostly copper/brown, but perhaps those pale green scale-like plates begin to appear. Then it's final form kept as is.
@RedParagonG Жыл бұрын
Ron I think you might be right. This batch of Fakemon is too strong. I can't keep up with all these guys! I'm jealous! DX But seriously, this was fun to participate in! Even if my little fireflies didn't make the video, I'm happy that they got noticed in some way. It's also nice to learn how to make a more convincing Fakemon, even if the artist and or philosophy are different!
@somescottishlassie891 Жыл бұрын
"Thicker than the average snake" what kinda yogie bear spin off is that xD
@balrogdahomie Жыл бұрын
I think a really fun series would be for you to look at, not Fakemon themselves, but art of creatures from other monster collection games, and compare and contrast the different design sensibilities of them vs Pokémon. It could be interesting to see what makes something *not* look like a Pokémon, even if just in a “here’s what to avoid when specifically making a fakemon” kind of thing If this idea interests you, I’d suggest looking at designs from Cassette Beasts, Monster Sanctuary, and Spectrobes
@calapai7 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Darksilvania, I've been following him for about 10 years, and he's always been one of the best Fakemon creators of all time.
@richcantgame Жыл бұрын
Ron idk why I just thought of this when you said “bark” but we 100% need a design of a tree dog Pokemon named Bark 😂
@CaptainvonDore Жыл бұрын
After reading this, I want it.
@ldmassey Жыл бұрын
The flamingo one is perfect. I love him so much. Edit: I love the dragon horse too. Most of these are so good! Lol
@devonmackey9467 Жыл бұрын
Just to critique your critiques: -Litten is not an obviously fire starter in any of its evolutions. -Dragonaire and Serperior are long snake proportioned Pokémon. -Falinks, Mousehold etc are Pokémon made up of multiple Pokémon. Love all the advice and critiques, as well as all the fakemons! Just wanted to counter argue a couple things.
@truegreen7 Жыл бұрын
Critiqueing your critiques of my critiques: - Litten is very much charcoal with red accents. Like I said, the accents can hint at the typing in the starter, unlike the example in the video. - Those are perfect examples to SUPPORT what I’m saying. Dragonair’s neck is thinner to accentuate its head, making it look less like a snake and more like a dragon. Serperior is very much WAY thicker than a real snake and has a huge head. Compare its proportions to the fakemon in the video. - I never said multiple Pokemon in one wasn’t possible. Just that the anatomy of the fakemon in the video is a mystery. (But that may also be the point)
@AnsophOfficial7 ай бұрын
Yeh no,
@LT0124-Mythica0 Жыл бұрын
I’ve only done one Fakemon before, very recently (as in literally yesterday) but my main problem is that I *cannot* mimic other artstyles. My art style is very unique and noticeable and a large part of the way I draw, and I can’t draw in any other style without it looking really horrible.
@herowither12354 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry about replicating the Pokemon artstyle. It's not as important as people pretend it is.
@elijosc1963 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I say pokemon style isn't for everyone tbh.
@andrewjoseph2749 Жыл бұрын
@6:39 i think the word you're looking for is: Vibrant. for the starters the Red (Fire), Blue (Water), and Green (Grass) are for the most part more vibrant.
@zimmles Жыл бұрын
Did not expect to be in the thumbnail hxjdhd thanks for the feature! I submitted that cus it was all I had at the time, but I have more these days
@borealmind Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@DustyGogoat Жыл бұрын
Great art & great video. Would love to watch one of these every month
@Oceane1803 Жыл бұрын
I hope that there'll be even more of these because I submitted my own Fakemon which is "MissingNo but an actual Pokemon". It has a lot of insipirations and I'm extremely proud of it.
@nazeersadek6705 Жыл бұрын
You’re right these are great submissions and your critiques are very valid with little tweets some of those fan designs can give the official Pokémon a run for their money
@Ellie-k5f Жыл бұрын
Your art is crazy and you help so much with creativity your art is crazy and I love these vids
@subnautical3467 Жыл бұрын
9:05 I agree that there is a lot of detail for a Pokémon design, but maybe with just a little less detail, I can totally see it as a legendary.
@Sami25596 Жыл бұрын
Please do part 4 I've been waiting for a long time for this to happen you're the only reason why I practice for this art style a lot I have liked subscribed and I have notifications
@CatOnACell6 ай бұрын
i like the difference you make between "good creature design" and "Pokémon design"
@theojames25816 ай бұрын
Same
@Itscopiaswife6 ай бұрын
Now I wanna see Ron make a video of just making overly detailed fakemon 😭
@midnightmoon7257 Жыл бұрын
Didn't get a chance to work on it in a while but I actually do have a fakemon in the works, a concept for a pokemon idea me and my physical therapist came up with when she miss heard me say whack a mole and said guacamole, Thus gwakamole was formed And for lil background on this bab, i like to think that it is known for staying in darker areas like caves, only really coming out at night, but one other place you may find them, gardens, mainly ones that grow fruit and vegetables, like normal moles they would be known for digging around in yards, and sometimes you may catch one's nose sticking out, often mistaken for a patch of grass, I'm working on whether or not to make two separate designs for male and female, cause the first sketch i did had a baby version on it's head that looked like an avocado pit (still working on pre evolved form not even a name yet) definitely will revise my work and hopefully submit it by next time
@bam-jedi-ram1741 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m excited, although I can’t draw in the pokemon style you got me into drawing fakemon
@soulofflame9999 Жыл бұрын
Now I'm curious about your ideas. Care to share?
@TheToneBender Жыл бұрын
I love this because for some of these I screenshotted them and put them in CSP and made my own edits to them, which I think really helps me in making better art myself, because you really start to think about the design choices. And then when I continued the video, found you saying many of the same critiques. And in some cases I had different ones, like with the steel kirin thing. I'd personally cut out the middle stage and make the prevo copper coloured and then have the mature version be a bit more vibrant to resemble patina.
@CloudShelter3 Жыл бұрын
I have an Idea for Fakemon 4, like you see the new fakemons and those that you have a "It's amazing...but" maybe make a sketch not really a full on redesign so it doesn't take so much
@scarffle2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time out to give crit on my dinos!!
@ericcograd Жыл бұрын
A lot of these are amazingly awesome! love these vids
@ezracohen3859 Жыл бұрын
Im making my own Pokemon region based on Ireland the starters are a grass deer a fire squirrel and a water seagull and this video will help me design my fakemon
@theherohartmut8 ай бұрын
Grass deer already exists with the Deerling line, but that's not to say it can't be used in another way. Do you have any concept art for these? As an Irish native myself, I'd be interested in seeing your take.
@ezracohen38598 ай бұрын
@@theherohartmut I already made them here is the dex so far I already made all of them just need put them in the format also this is the first dex that I made the designs virtualally as such most of the designs especially the older ones aren't to good of designsdrive.google.com/drive/folders/1cNg2iWLJt4MOeWgKXe78FDPnNMj0TSir
@amandaaube8296 Жыл бұрын
the 4 artists videos are always my favorite! Its so cool to see how different people interpret the same description
@ArthurTheRedhead Жыл бұрын
Love your videos you inspired me to make my own Fakemon
@Noteturtle90 Жыл бұрын
I had the same experience!
@ArthurTheRedhead Жыл бұрын
Nice
@seandewar47 Жыл бұрын
0:43 LOOK GARY, THERE I AM!
@spitfirebird10 ай бұрын
I’m planning on creating my own fakemon line that is a regional form of espurr and Meowstic, but what’s different is that 1. Espurr is able to evolve into many unique forms, similar to eevee and 2. They’re all based on different feathered dinosaurs. It’s not like eevee where each evolution corresponds to a different type. Instead, each evolution has a unique type combination based on the biology of the real animal and putting a Pokemon spin on it in some cases. This is not meant for any fakemon region, this is just simply a passion project focusing on not only giving my favorite Pokemon some love, but also combining that with my love for feathered dinosaurs.
@Actuallyalizard Жыл бұрын
The BuHorror line is so cute!! I would go searching for a BuHorror for my team!
@TheViper079 Жыл бұрын
for the snakes i would suggest the colors to swap so it matches the verse to differentiate milk snakes and coral snakes "red touching black safe is jack (base), red touching yellow kill a fellow (evo) but thats just my idea
@jacques5869 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear the critiques, but totally align with how Ron works! Every time I was a "creating fakemon" video, Ron will overdo certain features and then redraw over and over to get the balance right with fur, scales etc... It's only natural to want to add the extra detail, because it adds to the artwork, but to meet the unspoken requirements of Pokemon design, Ron is spot on, less is more! Some really awesome designs in their own right though!!
@KARTOONZpdx Жыл бұрын
The “overly detailed, spiky mouth Pokémon” at around 14:30 - 15:00 Could easily be fixed by slightly simplifying some things and making the mouth a zipper and calling it a Bannet evolution. It already looks like it tbh
@sephire25 Жыл бұрын
i'm glad darksilvania is getting more representation
@SolinoOruki Жыл бұрын
Hey Ron. Another kind of video that might work really well is asking for ppl to submit fakemon design ideas (without visualization) and choosing some of them to turn into fakemon
@alexpiscopo2696 Жыл бұрын
I mean mimikyu has a cloth over it's real body
@theojames25816 ай бұрын
15:02 love to see Lockstin’s Trevenant in the search results (and please correct me of my spelling of Lockstin)
@kurathchibicrystalkitty5146 Жыл бұрын
Oh, this was fun! I hope there'll be another video like it, and maybe a video on redesigning them?
@PandaJerk00716 күн бұрын
People submitted some great art! and your critique is great too! :)
@benjaminacuna8013 Жыл бұрын
This is so good! I love seeing you be constructive but critical in a kind way
@random1744 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say, at 2:00 I think the fur tuft on the head IS supposed to represent fire, lol. But idk I didn't design it, and yeah it still is kinda hard to tell it's fire type
@darkandwindie Жыл бұрын
Ey, thanks. And yeah, that's something I've heard before where my stuff can be a bit too close to the real counterparts at times Glad you like em tho
@TidalWaveKitty Жыл бұрын
I've had this pointed out in another pokemon video, that *most* steel types don't read steel (Especially the more organic pokemon, ie. not the literal metal pieces and A LOT of the insect pokemon). Jirachi, Alolan Diglett/Dugtrio, Alolan Sandshrew/Sandslash, Trash cloak Wormadam, Cufant...It's almost always their secondary typing that takes the wheel and steel is just a second thought.
@NY4NVaporKINGCatz103 Жыл бұрын
my fakemon be like: A Literal Earthquack A Mail Man Cyborg A Underwater Lion A Snowman Squirel A Nuke That Is The King And A Legendary Bug OR A Fire Cat Miner Personaly I Choose Fire Cat Miner Team Types Ground Grass Normal Steel Water Electric Ice Dark Fighting Bug Dragon Or Fire Rock Names Earthquack Mailborg Thundrion Squinter Nuking Alphanet Or i forgor
@bigchonka3442 Жыл бұрын
Some people worked really hard on these to make them how they want them to look and how they imagined it
@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 Жыл бұрын
And this video is something called constructive criticism and it's supposed to be helpful
@devontekuykendall3565 Жыл бұрын
@@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 There's no need to be rude and condescending about it. Saying "and he;s giving constructive criticism" is just as effective. This came off as really rude and mean. And no, not all constructive criticism is helpful just because it's given. The one that really bothered me in this was the spike section. It looked good just as is, not everything needs to be a specific way and it was good and fine just as is.
@justindoren5950 Жыл бұрын
He’s just saying his opinion and trying to help you the best possible way he can
@1faithchick711 ай бұрын
Yep! And they sent it into him to hear his opinion and see if they can improve anything! Most artists want constructive criticism to make their designs better. That was the entire point of sending them to him in the first place.
@samsinger8070 Жыл бұрын
For darksilvania's pokemon I think they could be clothes I mean if you look at their hands it seems like they could have made the clothes themselves and they want to hide in those clothes just luke Mimikyu does
@slateportraichu5416 Жыл бұрын
Your fans are so talented=3 Thank you for the video and knowledge=) I've learned so much! You are so nice and polite=)
@R3dyDoesStuff Жыл бұрын
You were my insparation for my pokemon fangame!
@flatpigeon9349 Жыл бұрын
Good art everyone. Some of these are incredible, and then some of them just bring me a chuckle. Goofy lil guys. edit: I need a Gorf (the round seal boi)
@WilliamLucian Жыл бұрын
Gorf was my favorite hands down.
@Fossilized_Nerd Жыл бұрын
THAT'S MY FRIEND FEEBELLE AT THE END ALWAYS KILLING IT WITH THE SPRITES
@wb67u Жыл бұрын
I don't have Twitter, is their another way for me to send you my art
@superflameking03 Жыл бұрын
Hope there's another episode of this. I'm currently working on finishing the final design of my own starters and would really love your opinions!
@henrydrago Жыл бұрын
Finally someone that point the major problem of Fakemon Overdesign! they are not bad, just overdesinged, looks almost like Digimon(I love Digimon but c'mon)
@Cecona Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching these because I learn so much about Pokémon design that I can understand
@Ezullof4 ай бұрын
13:04 actually, if you look at this design, there's a real issue with colors. The general idea seems to be: a purple tiger with black stripes and white head, legs and arms plus the white skull on the torso. But then have a black tail with purple stripes for some reason, that purple diamond on the torso (which should certainly be black), and the light purple belt and that thing at the end of the tail that are of the same colors as the emanations. Maybe one of those details could be kept, but you could also easily simplify the design to be more efficient. That pokémon doesn't need a belt, a diamond, a special thing at the end of its tail, and its tail doesn't need to have a different color scheme.
@albertlofling73105 ай бұрын
"How would three pokemon exist in a trenchcoat" My guy forgot that maushold and dugtrio exists
@BloodyAbsol Жыл бұрын
I love watching these since I can actually learn tips and tricks for fakémon drawing
@ebhoverman18 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more! I had no idea i needed more dope looking cow mons!
@PanzerIVAE Жыл бұрын
"3 pokemon in a trenchcoat how does that work biologically" We do now have 5 pokemon being classified as one pokemon
@markshaut5588 Жыл бұрын
Wait he's talking about pokemon needing less colors and xerneas has like the whole rainbow.
@adamgebriel Жыл бұрын
How can I start designing my own fakemon? Please make a full tutorial Ron
@halfdozen4753 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about starting a Pokémon region… Can you give me some tips or tricks please! By the way can you redesign your starters so we can see how you’ve “evolved” since then?
@stillGate15f110 ай бұрын
17:45 for that I suggest making it look more colorful like milotic scales
@AI-DreigonGPT Жыл бұрын
Iron Blades Type : Dark/Psychic Abillity : Quark Drive Stats HP : 82 ATT : 148 DEF : 77 SPA : 93 SPD : 77 SPE : 93 Scarlet Entry : It ressemble a certain pokemon introducted in a paranormal magazine described as the pokemon that put humans who stare at his eyes in a never ending nightmare and stun them forever with his Psychic powers. We haven't found a cure yet Violet Entry : It's possible Iron Blades an Absol from the future described in a old book, may actually be this pokémon
@AI-DreigonGPT Жыл бұрын
I know it's a métal réskins but so does every future paradox pokemon
@AI-DreigonGPT Жыл бұрын
And im more focused compétitive speaking than design speaking
@babel_UV Жыл бұрын
it could be argued that the red and orange accents remind to fruits instead so its fine as a starter for a more tropical region, just like rowlet6
@castironpan7967 Жыл бұрын
'How can you have three pokemon in a coat?' Tandemaus: ...... Falinks: >:(
@Irish_Mann Жыл бұрын
Well, those look like actual pokemon, while just having three pokemon in an actual coat just looks weird
@umaichirou8463 ай бұрын
Well maushold and dugtrio/wugtrio exists @Irish_Mann
@kuitaranheatmorus9932 Жыл бұрын
Yet another TruGreen7 W video, I love your videos This series is just so good
@NathanielJ-q6o Жыл бұрын
What is multiple Pokémon being in the coat it’s an outer shell and the and it’s one Pokémon. It just gets smaller body parts.
@pastellia1691 Жыл бұрын
6:00 i think that if the pink pokemon’s off-white was a lot more saturated, i think it would fix the problem!!
@gx_pro2277 Жыл бұрын
I love how these fakemon actually look real also I love armastone
@mixup2nd541 Жыл бұрын
Most people aren't mimicking the artstyle of pokemon, so maybe next time give them drawing advice to pull the piece together or how to incorporate other meanings instead
@AnsophOfficial7 ай бұрын
Except trugreen's point is how well they make fakemon look Canon, By your logic I could make anything and call it an exact replica of what a pokemon should be. He litterally just critiques them so if they want to make it more Legit. They wouldnt send in their arts if they just want him to ignore Pokemon Elements.
@cardinvuong9742 Жыл бұрын
It'd be crazy if TrueGreen decided to critique popular pokemon-inspired games like those ones on Roblox, or something of the sort.
@masterballstudios4864 Жыл бұрын
How does dude not have 1 million yet?
@TakoShinobi Жыл бұрын
The term "Pokemon artist" make it sounds like you actually designed official Pokemon
@ziggenplays1208 Жыл бұрын
No offense to any of the others but DarkSilvania is my favorite fakemon artist. Im glad he called him under-rated
@Choctopus0704 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a lot of the first fakemon. I wonder when he'll go to the second?
@mariofilho9431 Жыл бұрын
Lucario being steel was the bane of steel type designs
@sagegrantmusic Жыл бұрын
you look like prince eric
@kruppcaptainunderpants3011 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see truegreen7 set up a challgen where a fan can get their pokemon in his up coming new region
@Kaskei Жыл бұрын
this are so cool. would love to see more. i have my own fake mons but doubt i'll ever share. lol maybe someday.
@larsthememelord3383 Жыл бұрын
its cool how Rip-R-Jax is based on jack the ripper if not a bit too dark to have a pokemon based on him(presumably a him) also Rip-R-Jax could collect discarded clothing to hide their appearance its not like pokemon that wear objects dont already exist cough cough mimikyu
@sakurasketches Жыл бұрын
so cool, i love these videos!!!
@levijiles2473 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the spikes are fine i wouldn't change a thing and those starters designs that he was saying to much detail i actually wouldn't change a thing
@thenoisemaker83354 ай бұрын
13:25 insert seel for comparison (ik gen 1 is gen 1 but still, is seel is a pokemon I'd say GORF is plausible. Although mb not nowadays though.)
@terrimama217411 ай бұрын
blazapex look like a Kamen rider character
@Carrie-l5w8 ай бұрын
4:27 dugtrio is currently glaring at you as you're saying this
@axo-infinity2217 Жыл бұрын
5:06 The Pokémon's name right here can be called Poisona
@mr.maxwell4955 Жыл бұрын
here is my idea make an evolution for pokemon that doesn't have an evolution but the evolution has to have typing that doesn't exist