Pokemon Conquest Tier List THE PREMIUM - Monkey See, Monkey BLAST

[@scottk5946]

2 move, a fate worse than death. Even when I got the game new as a 10 year old I knew 2 move was suspicious

[@ImportedCheese]

suspicious is being...generous

[@scottk5946]

⁠@@ImportedCheeseit’s a sad day when armor knights are running laps around you on the battlefield

[@dany_fg]

either you are slow as a rock monster or you move so fast you are always in darkness. there is no in between.

[@ImportedCheese]

Shadow Dash up to 6 move!

[@wizmudkip]

I wonder how many of these warlords were renouned for their beauty and power

[@ImportedCheese]

Better check wiki berry

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I imagine the number is surprisingly close to the number allowed to write their own autobiography.

[@XellosNi]

....Ranmaru? :/

[@MiguelitoJimz]

Hey Charmander looks solid with 4 movement, I wonder how better it will get as it evolves...

[@ImportedCheese]

His speed increases! Must be correlated with movement!

[@kingofthejungle5338]

[@verdethestarwarrior1088]

Came for the Pokémon tier list, stayed for the Japanese history lesson

[@ImportedCheese]

Let's! Sengoku!

[@shikieikiyamaxanadu1510]

>"Came for the Pokémon tier list, stayed for the Japanese history lesson" >The said lesson did unfunny soy reddit tier jokes about our Lord >The said lesson implied that RETRO Japan was literally Sodom 2 Mfw (≖､≖╬)

[@nevenpatrk9661]

The funny thing is that Oichi is actually one of the best Warriors in the game...when she's not using Wigglytuff, which is why most people drop it on Oichi after the Warrior Transformation. I paired her with Haxorus and she just one shot everything to the point that she essentially became my Nobunaga counter in the Motochika chapter. My main highlight with Wigglytuff is...when she got 1-tapped by Rayquaza on Turn 1 of the final battle. She was the only Warrior that got knocked on my team for that battle. The game straight up told me that I had better chance going 5v6 than using Wigglytuff 💀.

[@ImportedCheese]

If only she didn't need wigglytuff link to evolve herself

[@dmgdgamer9759]

Fun fact. Sky drop is so bad that it's bugged! Sometimes, and it's entirely at random, you'll just pick up an enemy Pokémon and just...stay up there, forever. And when you do that, the enemy can't move, but you also can't hit it with any other 'mon on your team. So you can just time out on a map randomly because Braviary became buddies with the enemy and didn't feel like coming back down.

[@ImportedCheese]

Sounds like they sky dropped the ball...

[@nicholastricarico2957]

Is this just on emulators? I have the physical cartridge and it's always worked when I have used it.

[@dmgdgamer9759]

@@nicholastricarico2957 It can. It just takes a lot of continuous play, I've found. That, and it only seems to happen when the link reaches 100%, so I'm guessing it's a combination of both those things that lead to the glitch.

[@seanm.9942]

I remember this happening to me on cartridge

[@hedgehogpower194]

Good thing that didn't happened in my playthrough lmao Mainly because i only let the guy attack twice before electrocute his ass

[@sirtrials5405]

Masamune/Braviary is that one pair I'm grateful for because I actually saw an event in game thanks to Braviary being bad. I actually lost a wild pokemon battle trying to train these guys, and one of my warlords (in this case, Hanbei) immediately went to us like "what was that?! Poor showing there Lord Masamune." and decided he didn't want to stick around if we're that weak... ...except instead of outright leaving he behaved like a unit that was still in your army, but unavailable at the moment, like in the training trip event. And sure enough, he shows up again in like, three months or so, carrying some items, saying he only left to look for ways to help the army.

[@ImportedCheese]

I only PRETENDED to be bad!!!

[@marilynlucero9363]

Cheese: Grass = ass! Carnivine in Conquest: Well yes, but actually no.

[@ImportedCheese]

[@runningoncylinders3829]

It’s ok Charizard, you go when you feel like it.

[@ImportedCheese]

See you at the finish line, baby!!

[@Abundy]

FE4 music was an amazing choice for this, 2 move is the true Arden experience

[@ImportedCheese]

Even Arden has 4 move tho right?! Even more on roads!!!

[@Abundy]

@@ImportedCheese Well compared to the map size it's about equally bad

[@ffttossenz]

@@ImportedCheeseArden has infinite move if u give him a return band But he can only go where he is needed

[@solarstorm5242]

Man, really? They did Rhyperior this dirty? They made Armour Knights look good! And for the record, unless you’re going for the unholy trifecta attack, they’re worthless! (If you go for it, it’s even worse than that, it actively harms you, mentally and physically. You cannot beat Barth)

[@ImportedCheese]

At least Barth has 1-2 range instead of being locked to 3 range wtf

[@nicholastricarico2957]

Genuinely, honestly, Rhyhorn is more versatile than Rhyperior. May actually be better despite worse stats. Rhydon is certainly better, even if its attack range can be tricky to use on certain maps. It's just.........what on EARTH did Rhyperior do to deserve this?! Crummy movement AND attack range? As well as a move that makes you not able to attack next turn? What a waste of Shingen's perfect link (aside from Groudon, of course, but that's a post game thing).

[@hv433]

​@@nicholastricarico2957 don't forget the bad speed stat to further accentuate the bad movement and attack AoE! Gotta love the 70% accuracy, the recharge turn, and the Rock/Ground typing so you can get clapped by Jungle Jeigen! I suspect the devs intended Rhyperior to be like Onix in RBY - a big and intimidating boss mon that shows you ain't in the little leagues anymore, as well as a tutorial that Perfect Links aren't always perfect... Because Shingen has a crap ton of good options when it comes to 90% Links like Darmanitan, Excadrill, and Garchomp, along with Bisharp at 88%.

[@nicholastricarico2957]

@@hv433 Venus flytrap>Indestructible armored bipedal rhinoceros that can shoot boulders out of its palms.

[@hv433]

@@nicholastricarico2957 *destructible, VERY destructible

[@katelundberg2029]

My favorite part of Masanori is when he said "I am a krook...adile", dropped his hp to one and oneshot an enemy before immediatly dying because earthquake isn't the funniest move in pokemon conquest(mostly because it isn't in the game which fair it would probably just destroy Terrara even more than the fact it is the hardest skew to attackers since pokemon fall off the towers right before attackers move meaning they can just hog the towers with no recourse

[@ImportedCheese]

Maybe in a romhack

[@phstevenswift2805]

I remember this game! It was a cross with Nobunaga's Ambition, but the outfits used are specifically taken from Samurai Warriors 3, another Koei Tecmo game that is a spinoff of their Dynasty Warriors series that just covers the same Sengoku Jidai time period with similar gameplay but slightly different character mechanics. I've been hoping they would do a sequel to it for years, though now that would be a bit of a challenge...not only because of the changes to Pokemon over the years, but because if they kept on using similar character models they would have to choose to go back to Samurai Warriors 4/4-II models that are about 10-ish years old or use the updated SW5 models that exclude a ton of post-Nobunaga characters. Either way, underrated gem that I love dearly and wish more people would acknowledge!

[@ImportedCheese]

As long as the game isn't made by GameFreak it'll probably be good...

[@phstevenswift2805]

@@ImportedCheese Honestly, with the way that certain moves in Pokemon Unite worked (garbage but fun to play regardless) I think that if another company were to take that same idea and use Pokemon moves in a different style, KT could actually make a decent Musou-style game with Pokemon, in a somewhat similar style to how Persona 5 Strikers worked, but with much weaker Mons like Caterpies and Rattatas for the lower-grade enemies. (Or using Pokemon as stand-ins for your PCs so you're fighting against humans or humanoid creatures as the Pokemon themselves)

[@WeebJail]

@@ImportedCheese wasnt brilliant diapa made not by gamefreak

[@_yukimura_.]

Bro I LOVE Samurai Warriors, and I actually discovered Pokémon Conquest because of those games.

[@ceciunni]

I loved the intro with the Japanese voice acting, 10/10. Great video, I watched it all in one sitting!

[@ImportedCheese]

Thank you! Let's! Conquering!

[@Kaspar502]

If you're still interested in the pronunciation of the Hydreigon line, the german numbers Eins Zwei and Drei (one two and three) are pronounced like Eye-ntz Tzvy and Drry. Do with that Information whatever you want.

[@ImportedCheese]

Not sure this helps

[@snap9011]

Hey this is actually pretty similar to the competitive PvP tier list we have in the Ransei server. Just a couple of differences. 1. We have Scyther in our list and he's way stronger than Scizor since Scyther can stack Fury Cutter on ally Pokemon (pairs well with Chandelure), allowing him to OHKO even through type disadvantage. His higher speed and flying typing also works to his benefit. 2. We've ranked Braviary around B tier. Sky Drop is actually pretty strong because it can prevent your opponent from using a key Pokemon like Reshiram for an entire turn. While Braviary is in the air with your victim you can take out the rest of the team. 3. We have Vaporeon much lower. Despite its 4 range, Water typing, and high range attack Vaporeon is just a bit too slow and Hydro Pumps accuracy hurts it even more. Its hard to use Vaporeon when its hitting around 60% accuracy and Gyarados is much better with stronger abilities like Frighten (massively helps with accuracy) and a flying typing to ignore terrain.

[@ImportedCheese]

I am forced to rank Vaporeon highly because I don't want to PVP eeveelution fans

[@hv433]

Kinda curious, is the tier list for the Warlords the same? Since in PvP you aren't limited to Perfect Links, I would assume several different characters would be way higher on the tier list, like Shingen, Yukimura, and Masamune (especially him since Braviary is valued more there).

[@roofon]

finally got around to playing this game, I got a darumaka pretty early on and was like wow this does a lot of damage. It evolved and wow it's insane. went into the flying map with some suboptimal pokemon, most of them ended up dying early on. It didn't matter because darmanitan just one shots everything.

[@sussy3778]

2:09:17 Fun Fact: The only time homosexuality got outlawed in Japan can be traced back to the Western influence the country started to receive in the 19th and 20th century. Pretty much all LGBT bigotry nowadays was imported from other countries.

[@ImportedCheese]

Yep!! I forgot to actually talk about it but uh...I think the cursor was over Gracia lol

[@sussy3778]

​@@ImportedCheese Yep, let's just say Yaoi came from Japan for a good reason, even their tropes have some roots in old Japanese culture.

[@BJGvideos]

Except that no, they already didn't have anything like gay marriage. Most places haven't, no matter the place in the world or "western influence".

[@sussy3778]

@@BJGvideos The ways sexuality and marriage is viewed as a concept nowadays is very different from how it was centuries ago, you can't measure it with those parameters. For most of its history, Japan was very open when it came to same-sex relationships, to the point it even showed up in their folklore and art in a very regular basis (highly recommend checking up). This aversion towards gay was something that only really started showing in later modern ages, for the reasons I mentioned.

[@Robin_hsr12]

Which oddly enough ties up to christianities translation of the bible thst had the anti lgbtq stuff ​@@sussy3778

[@gallantblade1825]

It’s pretty cool what they did with Conquest. Mitsuhide kills Nobunaga, so ice beats dragon. Then Hideyoshi kills Mitsuhide, so fire beats ice. And fire beats steel, with Yukimura (and the Sanada) repeatedly fighting back against the Tokugawa. And because the warlord sprites are based off of Samurai Warriors 3, character relationships carry from that game too. Magoichi was made into Masamune’s friend and mentor of sorts in 3, and Nene was made into a ninja just because. Kunoichi basically represents the Sanada Ten Braves and is Yukimura’s bodyguard, so we got a ninja! Tadakatsu was a peerless warrior and a protector of Ieyasu, explaining why he’s stronger than his boss. I can go on and on! I wonder what a remade version of this game would look like. Would there be a fairy type castle? And who would be in charge of that amongst the Samurai Warriors playable cast? Would Azai Nagamasa remain the protagonist, or would someone else be chosen instead?

[@ImportedCheese]

Maybe they'd make Oichi the fairy type trainer?

[@happinintendo]

Damn the sleep thing when you mention dreameater is relatable, I passed out with the video running last night

[@ImportedCheese]

All according to keikaku!!

[@AaronWebber9]

Fire spin was my favorite move in this game, especially when soling with the guardian charm.

[@ImportedCheese]

Three fire monkies, and two are great!!

[@0-0-0freedartmonkey9]

Do you mean 2 monkeys and a lamp?

[@richarddavis2530]

Can't wait for your next collab with that ImportedSleaze guy. What a great content creator!

[@ImportedCheese]

He knows how to milk VALUE out of content!!

[@CassiDS]

Out of fairness to Fiery Moth, you should force codenames onto the other Pokémon in this game. For example, Ampharos would be Zappy Sheep, and Serperior would be Worst Starter.

[@ImportedCheese]

KZbin demands I avoid the moth... Serperior's day will come

[@exaltedfalcheon1793]

​@@ImportedCheeseBut I love the Moth

[@An_Entire_Lime]

​@@ImportedCheese The Moth who shall not be named is my favourite pokemon

[@Kaspar502]

"He was based in Osaka" 😎

[@ImportedCheese]

BASED?!

[@_Pikahiiri_]

Charizard needs to work on his cardio. He moves SUPER fast... then needs to take a rest.

[@ImportedCheese]

At least he flies...

[@StarlightMagician]

I will say this, Charizard is the best 2 Move Pokemon to give the Guardian Charm to, Especially if it's Yukimura's Charizard after Yukimura has evolved. And that Stacks with the Ability "Last Bastion", which gives a permanent attack and defense boost when that Mon is your last (or in this case, ONLY) one standing. Sucks that THIS how to make Charizard a Beast in this game, but hey, it needs what it can get.

[@_Pikahiiri_]

@@StarlightMagician Or you could give those items to a mon that's already good...

[@StarlightMagician]

@@_Pikahiiri_ I'm just saying if you want to or HAVE to for any reason, you have that option.

[@deadsagelife]

4:05 nobunagas ambition is a staple of my childhood its like my hypno trigger like people have with gen 1 Pokemon

[@ImportedCheese]

Yes...I love Nobunaga...I played all his games...

[@timrc417]

I think my only knock on this entire list is the placement of Yukimura. Yes, his perfect link is Charizard and he starts with Emboar, but he has a 90% link with Darmanitan, Gyarados, Staraptor, Chandelure, Infernape, Volcarona, and Bisharp (he has more but the rest aren’t really worth mentioning). You’re almost never hitting 90% - let alone 100% - link in any of the missions unless you’re trying to, so he’s perfectly fine with any of his 90% mons, making him one of the best battling warlords across the board. He also has one of the best warrior skills in the game (+2 move, + crit rate) and is available fairly early and in a lot of the side missions. I think he still gets dragged down by his starting and perfect link Pokemon, but he’s probably mid A tier at worst. Other than that, love Conquest getting attention and the history lesson and I think the Warlord and Pokemon rankings are pretty accurate overall! Fantastic content once again!

[@ImportedCheese]

Traumatized by 2 move

[@AzoiatheCobra]

I would have love that you talked a bit more about the best abilities for each pokemon... You only talked about the levitates and shadow dashes. Great video for the best spinoff game of the franchise. Also you talk about the gods of thunder and wind, talk about naruto and you dont talk about yaiba? Ps. Meowth is a bad foghter... But its abilities, bonanza and fortune, increase by alot the gold you gain in mines. And it stacks with the lucky coin. It doesnt stack with other meowths though, so only one per kingdom Pps You have to try using at least 4 zubats with mellee around an enemy. Its not the optimal play, but it funny to watch

[@ImportedCheese]

If I didn't mention the ability it's probably because it does nothing

[@Mini_Antony]

First time ever watching your content and ive got to say i really enjoyed your editing and charisma. Kept me entertained for the entire 2 and a half hours of the video‼️ Keep up the great content 🙏

[@ImportedCheese]

Thank you for watching! Let's! Weeb!

[@abbieburton2794]

This video is renowned for it's strength!

[@ImportedCheese]

How long until I'm renowned for my wisdom

[@tmoran527]

Konichi is often depicted as one of the body guards to the charzard dude in the samurai warriors and warrior orichi games.

[@ImportedCheese]

I'd let her guard me!! (Because her pokemon is strong, of course)

[@tyler9425]

I just randomly found this vid in my suggested. I been playing pokemon conquest since release and its my favorite game of all time. I have played it multiple times and this tierlist is mostly accurate. While I do agree 2 movement is bad i dont think it makes pokemon unusable by any means, especially since in post game the AI moves towards you so its not a big deal. Also calling carnevine jungle jagan is absolutely hilarious

[@svansiian2050]

The one and only game where Carnivine is OP

[@ImportedCheese]

I dunno man, he was good in DaiPa, too!!!!!!!!!!!

[@svansiian2050]

@@ImportedCheese 46 base speed.... no.

[@AniGaAG]

I think we can replace "holy mother of god" with "holy mother of cheese". Jokes aside, seriously, she seems like a real funny and charming person. Aaand I see some of the _sass_ that her son inherited... : P Fun to see where that came from!

[@ImportedCheese]

[@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938]

Dropped when we needed it most

[@ImportedCheese]

Released 10 years ago, but still popular today!! Maybe not that popular

[@ogjalena]

2 move Pokémon The trailer for this premium

[@ImportedCheese]

This premium took 3 weeks because I have 2 move

[@ogjalena]

@@ImportedCheeseKOEI-TECMO!!!

[@therepublic21]

Gonna riot if I don’t see a tier list on Pokémon Mystery dungeon

[@ImportedCheese]

it'll be a while

[@Infernape102]

Gotta love unregistered hyperbeam 2. All thats missing is 009 Sound System Dreamscape.

[@ImportedCheese]

I would have done that but would have gotten copyright claimed

[@gespenst0083]

For recruiting warlords you have to do 1 of 3 things with your own warlord. 1: Defeat them within 4 turns 2: Defeat them without any of your units getting damaged 3: Defeat them with a super effective attack Think they all still have to be within 4 turns because I killed a warlord with a super effective attack, but they didn't get recruited or it could just be I wasn't paying attention and killed them without using a warlord with a super effective attack. And I still think Samurott is better than Gyarados even though it can't fly simply because of conqueror. Also cheating in a single player game means nothing, unless you're doing a challenge for content, but otherwise complaining about cheating (passwords for conquest, or glitches in other single player games) really gives off Yoshimoto energy especially if you either want to just play for the story or want to speedrun it since you've played it countless times already. Another also, Male mc has better drip, change my mind.

[@ImportedCheese]

surely you shouldn't consider cheating in a tier list wtf

[@gespenst0083]

@@ImportedCheese Yeah for sure especially for tier lists since not everyone knows about cheats, but some Pokémon don’t even spawn unless it’s an event or you have level 3 buildings which takes very long to do if you don’t want to use the crappy delegate system.

[@DrDrao]

Two move is terrible, but it's not quite bad enough to ruin moves as good as fire blast or blizzard. Partially because hitting 3-4 tiles away mitigates some movement issues, partially because the enemy also moves towards you, and partially because you're always gonna be using guardian charm on 2 move pokemon anyway. For instance, walrein will pretty much always start attacking before zekrom. Because of the difference in their attacks ranges, a pokemon needs to be 13 squares away for zekrom to start attacking first. That number balloons to 17 if they're both running GC. This isn't even taking into account that enemy pokemon come towards you. GC charizard is stronger, hits more enemies, and arguably is even more mobile (Flying) than GC zekrom. Now, darmanatan is always gonna be significantly better than emboar. Articuno is always gonna be significantly better than walrein, etc. Also, 2 move pokemon absolutely always have to use guardian charm. They just cannot work in teams (Especially last bastion mons like charizard and tyranitar). However, they're not as unviable as you make out. The other pokemon I think you misunderstood is bibarrel. Guardian charm bibarral is invincible and one shots everything. Sure it has only 3 move, doesn't fly, and only hits one pokemon at a time, and there's an immunity to its only move. You know who else has those issues, but also has stats generally lower than bibarrel? Zekrom.

[@ImportedCheese]

2 mov in solo guardian charm fights is....okish... It's more that 2 mov pokemon are unusable outside of gc because they lag so far behind everyone else

[@DrDrao]

@@ImportedCheese I'm not saying charizard, dragonte, etc are top tier or anything. They're high B at best. I'm just saying they're not unusable. Besides, I'd much rather have a 2 move flier that can attack 3 away than a 3 move land unit that attacks 1 away, even in team games.

[@tricky2795]

I think some 2 movement Pokemon can be fixed if you support them with movement boosting effects, Masamune (with a GOOD pokemon like Gyarados) +3 movement for 3 turns to self + adjacent allies is my favorite way to fix pokemons like Groudon and Charizard. 5 movement for 3 turns Zekrom and other 1 hitbox pokemon i think are worse, as there is no way for them to kill more than 1 pokemon a turn with their moves

[@DrDrao]

@@tricky2795 Agreed.

[@Robin_hsr12]

Hear me out. 2 move only ​@@ImportedCheese

[@Regithegamer]

Between this game and Sengoku Rance I now have the most accurate picture of famous figures in the Sengoku Jidai.

[@ImportedCheese]

Historically accurate!

[@carlosmarte428]

I remember buying this game because of “Nobunaga’s Ambition: Rise to Power”. Highly recommend for anyone that’s into Civ, HOI4, etc. I play it on my PS2, but I’m sure that there’s a way to get it for PC.

[@ImportedCheese]

How much ambition is needed before anything is achieved

[@gayjolteon]

Love to see Jolteon in A tier

[@ImportedCheese]

4 mov!! and not Thunder!!

[@Inquisitor_Redacted]

Sad to see my favorite warlord "The One-Eyed Dragon of the North." in the lowly ranks of B tier :(.

[@ImportedCheese]

Sick warrior power though

[@klaw9552]

I so badly want a Pokemon game about George Washington in the Revolutionary war.

[@ImportedCheese]

They could mod that assassin's creed game!!!

[@jeremyrossi2716]

I actually do think there is a good amount of potential for a game like this centered around either the American Revolution or the Civil War (you only use the Union side). John Paul Jones could be a Water type specialist bc he was basically a privateer for the American Navy, Benedict Arnold could be the Dark specialist bc he betrayed the Revolution, Sherman could be the Fire type specialist bc he burned the South to the ground (justifiably, but still), Grant could be the Fighting type specialist and have his perfect link be Annihilape bc he was known as “the butcher” who would essentially just throw Union soldiers at the South until it just collapsed, Washington could be the ice specialist since his army was in the North a lot facing the bitter cold and just give him glass cannon links like Weavile. There’s a good amount to do with either concept

[@sparkypikachu7776]

​@@jeremyrossi2716ooo sounds like a fun game! Yea & i don't think having a "neutral" or "choose your side" kinda story would be a good idea for that ahaha. Kinda would be interesting if conquest let you like ally with specific warlords to help them personally take over & maybe a different ending depending on it? Would def be for like a remake tho

[@AniGaAG]

I actually never heard of this game before this video. The idea is strangely cool for... well, being a Pokémon game. So it's good? If you say it is - heck, your Pokémblem recommendation was absolutely worth following, so... _maybe..._

[@ImportedCheese]

Good game! If you don't have 2 move

[@AniGaAG]

@@ImportedCheese Gonna give it a go then. Last recommendation was great, so I'll trust this one too.

[@sarasaland4709]

Jungle Jagen makes me wonder the devastation caused by a base Wyvern Jagen.

[@ImportedCheese]

Drudiggon jeigan?!

[@genuineangusbeef8697]

1:54:19 this might not actually be a correct change? In Street Fighter 3, there's a character Makoto who is a shotokan karate fighter. (as opposed to Ryu and Ken whose style is sometimes wrongly referred to as shotokan? I think?) One of her most common voice lines has her shout "Chesto!" when attacking, and a quick search brought up it's potential use as a battlecry called a kiai, which as I understand it is the equivalent of giving phonology to the loud grunts tennis players make when exerting themselves. I don't know any more than that but I'd imagine they were less far off than you first thought.

[@ImportedCheese]

Sounds like it could be correct, except that I'm NEVER wrong!!!

[@jerry3115]

I believe chesto is commonly used as a generic battle cry

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

This game is on my list of games that really, really, really needed a sequel to iron out the wrinkles and make something really special. Good thing Pokemon is well known for being hospitable to people who make better things with their IP than they do, like Pokemon Pinball 3, right?

[@ImportedCheese]

3 base move minimum and two attacks per pokemon please

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

@@ImportedCheese 2 attacks One by species, one pulled from a tutor list you build by recruiting guys who can teach/cycle out moves. List of skills you can stick to your pokemon, also acquired from guys. Including the cherished +1 movement. Send Valora and Spectra to the Shadow Realm *chef's kiss* Matthew Perry, the Fairy type warlord comes for a visit. *oh no* ...I think that's the guy, at least.

[@brucegray2614]

Pokemon conquest was de peak of character design

[@ImportedCheese]

cool weeb warlords!!

[@jeremyrossi2716]

Fun fact: the armor of Masamune was one of the main design inspirations for Darth Vader. Maybe if his perfect link was Bisharp he could’ve used the full power of the dark side. Unfortunately he chose…Braviary…at least he has the high ground. I would say give him Kingambit, but knowing this game he’d probably be 2 or 1 movement.

[@officialgoosestudios7151]

Mr.cheese you gotta stop holding back on us and finally give us the yokai watch tier list, I've already invested in bloominocoin and I gotta know if Shogunyan was renown for his strength or for his beauty!

[@ImportedCheese]

Uh maybe on April Fools in...3ish years

[@Dinamosaur]

"Was renound for his/her strength/beauty" is no match for "His/Her hero skill increases your attack". Seriously , I gave up keeping them straight a fourth of the way in. Still, good video!

[@ImportedCheese]

Tons of attack boosts and generic skill names like "rally" or "courage" or "heroism"

[@tiredwithpeoplesshxt1284]

Who’s the female protagonist based off of in ancient Japan?

[@ImportedCheese]

Uh pure fanfic I think

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

I remember intending to play it when it came out, but then I forgot about it and never did. Which is not unusual, I do take a long time to get to newer games. Even when I intend to play on release I end up playing like, 8 years later. Watching giant streams about them should have an effect on how long it takes to play them, though.

[@ImportedCheese]

More than 8 years ago release!! You can play it now!

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@ImportedCheese I am somehow behind schedule even on my normal lateness.

[@Mixxium]

This game getting a sequel would genuinely be crazy

[@Mixxium]

And probably trash

[@rapidriver]

I have played Pokémon Conquest: ~Warriors Faint Twice~ for the Nintendo DS, I remember playing it, seeing all the stories that crop up after you beat the first story, playing the one with the pink Wigglytuff girl and then shelving the game forever. I forget what I evolved Eevee into but I'm 90% sure I replaced it with a Pichu because it's my favorite. :)

[@ImportedCheese]

When will they make a sequel where warriord faint thrice

[@sombramemer1230]

Glad Ty Lee from ATLA is in the title.

[@ImportedCheese]

she's not even a firebender

[@sombramemer1230]

@@ImportedCheese She is from the fire nation. And is probably renown for her beauty.

[@DarkMaker75]

Can't wait for Japanese history tier list ft. Cheese's mom Fun fact: There’s a yugioh card called Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan.

[@ImportedCheese]

Maybe I'll be quick enough to actually get her help

[@laurae1926]

So sad I miss these livestreams! Is it better to give KZbin money or become a mighty Patreon?

[@ImportedCheese]

Mighty PATREONS (KZbin takes...30%? But Patreon only takes like 2%, and you get to be in the credits!! )

[@Sayurawesome11]

The steel arena is the place where 2 moves feels like hell

[@RobinWasAlreadyTaken]

Cool thing about Lapras, it's anti-crit abiltiy Shell Armor does pop up when you avoid a crit. Does not change how good Lapras is (and that the other abilities are better) but man does it feel good to see that Shell Armor pop up when a crit would have defeated you.

[@ImportedCheese]

If only it showed when Luck negated crits in fire emblem!!

[@thetrashtrain3774]

Did not think i would see pokemon conquest content today but i cant complain

[@ImportedCheese]

such an UNDERRATED GAME

[@yamiookami]

"What on earth is happening to Luxio...?" Nothing, Ginchiyo. Luxray doesn't exist. Take your meds.

[@ImportedCheese]

Nightmares of thunder.......

[@vitorgamesdaterrafinal5579]

Samurott still will be on my team if i ever do get this game

[@ImportedCheese]

You'll need a password to unlock his warlord

[@sparkypikachu7776]

Very interesting Japanese lore! Curious but as someone who lives/lived in Japan do you ever see any people like wishing to return to those divided times/worshiping an irl overlord? Also for the icy sadoku guy maybe it's bc the guy was the main villian but i can't help but assuming that he was a tyrant and maybe the ice guy just didn't want his terror unleashed. Like a zuko fire nation moment sorta

[@ImportedCheese]

uh I can't say I have

[@seanm.9942]

20:13 Deino is great at first, but that “and then it evolves” was at 64% link for me so enemies had better stats than it (being fully evolved) including like 100+hp. It’s a chore to raise later on when you could’ve just scaled damage with Gabite (though not a perfect link)

[@ImportedCheese]

Hydreigon flies tho

[@penlandsux1323]

I've done a bit of diving into the game's original references and it blows my mind how they so seamlessly integrated Japanese history, Pokemon, and the characters' Samurai Warriors designs. Even on the base level of being a Pokemon game, the characters have very rich personality and design, and the creative costumes of the Warlord evolutions never feel like they betray the original concept. I never appreciated the designs or characters as a kid, thinking either that a) they were completely original or b) a few of the characters were borrowed from Japanese history. As much as I would love a remake of this game, I worry that such an intricate mesh of the IPs and actual history would topple under the weight of its predecessor if anything were added or changed, even something as simple as an 18th type. Speaking on the gameplay aspects, it sucks to say that a beloved game from my childhood could make such bad designs and choices. But wow, some of the Pokemon are an absolute joke. I am replaying the game now and even with the dirty strategy of Guardian Charm solo-ing, Forretress is flat-out unusable, not to mention his Perfect Link Warlord. I think a lot of dual type Pokemon have a distinct disadvantage that they can only use moves from one of their types - no Earthquake Rhyperiors or Air Slash Charizards or Draco Meteor Reshirams or Waterfall Quagsires. It really stings in cases like Quagsire where your Water Gun powerhouse Wooper changes course entirely, becoming a Ground move user instead. If there ever was a remake or sequel, I would hope they give the Pokemon at least one additional move to choose from, like how various Fire Emblem units can have mastery over one or two weapon types but may even use others.

[@ImportedCheese]

Two moves per pokemon and no movement ranges lower than 3 are my wishes

[@kingbrachy9035]

I refuse to believe that Snivy is worse than Chikorita. Don't let it be tropium.

[@ImportedCheese]

Snivy at least has access to contrary which does it make it good!! For ingame.....yikes

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Overgrow Snivy is absolutely worse than Overgrow Chikorita. It does better in the gen 5 games because Unova is nowhere near as full of hatred towards the Grass type as Johto is, but if you try it in basic replacement hacks and such, Chikorita absolutely stomps Snivy. Hard.

[@AniGaAG]

Imported cheese was renowned for its aroma in medieval Japan, I hear.

[@ImportedCheese]

Sweet scent is a bad move

[@flygtamer32]

Now i wait patiently for the pokemon ranger games

[@ImportedCheese]

Keep waiting (We'd do mystery mungeon first, and even that is like...a year away. )

[@Mantis.Sartinoli]

What's the reason Cheese cannot mention Volcarona? I read it said something about missinformation but I don't get it...

[@ImportedCheese]

It sounds like an illness you can't mention

[@handlesarestupid154]

The haircut looking fire, king!

[@ImportedCheese]

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

Poor Date, if this game came out later he'd definitely have an Intelleon and Snipe Shot would hit like a four tile long straight line

[@ImportedCheese]

Surely he'll get his chance in Pokemon Conquest TWO!!

[@beanus2901]

rhyperior is good on the first campaign cause of how hard it hits but it falls off when you start getting more perfect links

[@ImportedCheese]

I dunno if I'd call it "good" but it defnitely has good stats for when you get it ....2 mov tho

[@letsplaytodayusa]

@@ImportedCheeseRhyperior works really well…when defending…on like 2 maps total. And even then only 4/5ths of the time when Rock Wrecker actually hits. I think the only worse pokemon is specifically Yoshinori’s Forretress which is a guaranteed 1 damage.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Yeah On a first playthrough, especially if you're maybe not grasping all of the mechanics, Rhypherior IS one of the most reliable ways to deal with strong pokemon you don't have good proper answers for. As soon as you actually know what you're doing, Rhypherior quickly becomes atrocious

[@Owain9797]

Re: Mewtwo i always just assumed rather than being in the past Ransei is just some weird region where everyones feudal warlords while across the ocean, everything is doing modern Pokemon and choosing to ignore whatever theyre up to

[@ImportedCheese]

Directed by M. Night?!

[@marjandyvizcarra9526]

Actually the grass guy states that in a book he read that people from a different land you balls to catch Pokémon, in pretty sure this hints to it being much closer to current events

[@Exalosia]

2:09:20 did you ever talk about how japan became puritanical? I don't remember hearing you go into this last time I watched this, and I am very interested

[@ImportedCheese]

Uh I never actually did...but the answer is Jesus!!

[@morganreaver]

I actually think haxorus belongs in S, above vaporeon. The sheer difference in damage cannot be overstated, and there's also plenty of ways to increase movement, meaning he can have the same move as vaporeon while one shotting up to 4 pokemon each turn. Haxorus can still attack while recharging, and there's several good warlords that can link with him (oichi, nobunaga, tadakatsu, etc)

[@ImportedCheese]

butbut Vaporeon always has 4 move!! and hydro pump attack pattern is better!

[@morganreaver]

@ImportedCheese hydro pump also has accuracy issues, when I played through the tutorial campaign vaporeon missed so many times that it ruined my perception of hydro pump

[@kobyma2]

No Kingler or Crawdaunt? I guess Ransei is ancient enough to feature a fossil, but not ancient enough to feature giant enemy crabs. (Yes, I know that it's a different time period and warring states Japan isn't that ancient)

[@ImportedCheese]

With crawdaunt's defenses, you don't even need to attack the weak spot to deal massive damage

[@BJGvideos]

And then it also has Mewtwo, a creature that should not have existed prior to the mid 1990s.

[@canaldecasta]

Cheese woke up(woke??) one day and decided to meddle and conquer a foreign land just because. Nobu would be proud.

[@ImportedCheese]

Now that I am woke the videos will make less money

[@yamiookami]

This game flew under my radar for years, but I'm having fun giving it ago after watching this a few times. Am I crazy or does the attack forecast seem to lie about accuracy? Moves seems to miss way way more than their chances would suggest.

[@ImportedCheese]

As far as I know the forecase is accurate

[@jerry3115]

Wait, i just realized this game has empoleon and infernape but not torterra... Well, it'd probably be garbage with 2 mov anyway...

[@ImportedCheese]

At least this game has Carnivine!!

[@kageakiminato8536]

Great vid Whens the Sengoku Rance tier list? Rank the H scenes too please

[@ImportedCheese]

We'll play Ikemen Sengoku!!!

[@thebraviarykid7849]

It is sad to realize braviary sky drop in this game is bad since seeing Masamune use it in conquest as a kid was soo cool to me and is why I love braviary as much as i do, same as glaceon. Also Magoichi's cupid skill is how i got 999 damage in conquest for first time. One thing i dont like about this game is *the officer*, you do not know true pokepain till you see that gabite

[@ImportedCheese]

TheBraviaryKid7849 in shambles...good warrior skill though!!

[@zyouri121]

I like ya cut, G (unironically)

[@ImportedCheese]

Must be because I evolved as a warlord!!

[@riccardomosena4162]

I don't agree with glaceon, if you only consider the tutorial i may agree, but on the rest of the contents is honestly very good since you then start with him. Glaceon and vaporeon are basically the only real choices as per gameplay, the other just to get that 100% completition. As per the 2 movement, it reminds me of Bleach the 3rd phantom and the power charaters, same struggle xD (still used one since he was my favourite character)

[@ImportedCheese]

If only the main character was actually the main character of other campaigns

[@riccardomosena4162]

@@ImportedCheese btw, you said glace on is frail, but actually has a very good defence stat 🤣 like, Vaporeon has 50 less base defense (almost double hp but that's a detail xD)

[@royplatt455]

I have to object to your Leafeon placement. Between Run Up, 4 Range, and Leaf Blade, Leafeon is basically a pick class.

[@ImportedCheese]

Grass is horrible and annoying evo.....bad!!!!

[@royplatt455]

@ImportedCheese Definitely not horrible. I've used Leafeon as basically a delete button for both Magoichi and Nagamasa.

[@angelofbubbles7623]

Charizard has to be humbling this game. He has been told that in the future of the amount of pandering he will have in the future gens...or he lost a bet Flareon to hold back in this game. Also long live the fire monkeys in this game.

[@ImportedCheese]

3 move please....just 3 would be enough...

[@justintsui2522]

By Monkey, you mean Simisear right?

[@ImportedCheese]

No, I obviously mean the other fire monkey, Infernape!!

[@katelundberg2029]

A very small nitpick but the male and female warriors are very slightly different in one actually technically relevant way and one almost irrelevant way. The more relevant is that since the Gallade and Froslass evolutions are determined by the gender of the trainer, the male one has access to Gallade and the Female one has access to Froslass which I think is a point to the male one since Gallade at least doesn't share a move with an Eeveelution and is hypothetically accesible during the main story when you get to use them the most. The other difference is in max link on some mons, the male hero gets 90% link on more stereotypically cool and masculine mons while the female warlord gets 90% links on more feminine and pretty pokemon. Overall I'd say the male also wins in this regard however it matters even less since it's the difference between at most 82 and 90% max link which only matters at really high levels when you're probably using god or whatever Eeveelution or really strong 90% link you want, with both of them sharing really good links with really strong mons like Hydreigon and Volcarona anyways

[@ImportedCheese]

Time to use "cool" mons!

[@royplatt455]

The Male one is also technically VERY SLIGHTLY easier to beat in postgame. He's affected by Nō's rank 2 skill, Female is not.

[@katelundberg2029]

@@royplatt455 The Magoichi synergy with the female warlord about to sweep Ransei

[@Sweatybaseballs]

Been waiting for this premium for a while. While I agree with your two move premise, the yukimura/charizard slander is insane. Yukimura probably has best ability in the game and aside from nobunaga is the best solo in the game. Arguments can be made for vaporeon/hero and infernape/hideyoshi but I still say yakimura is way better. I've sped through many campaigns and the crit and move twice is broken. Also, fewthings to consider. Flying helps cut corners and ease the lack of movement. Especially noticeable on steel map when you dont have to watch gear animations and can just fly over metal bars. Plus when you solo all the enemies come to you. You may say that a team of six means charizard won't play because your other team members will get their faster. Again I would disagree because double movement pretty much guarantees charizard kills at least one mon, but your missing a key point. If you really wanna just mash A and get through campaigns ASAP you go in solo and finish the campaign in less than a year. Why train and waste time making moves with other mons when you can literally move once with charizard and let the other team line themselves up for a crit flamethrower. You level up so fast solo that after the first fight you're over 100 strength better than the next mon. This gap will continue to grow. Most important thing for soloing is accurate splash damage (flamethrower) and multiple attacking warrior ability. There are so many more benefits to soloing but it's long enough already. Finally, I forget which one I have but there is a rom hack that eliminates 2 move and fixes a lot of the terrible mons. If you ever want to play the game again don't waste your time with the two move nonsense. Great vid as always.

[@ImportedCheese]

At least 3 mov for Charizard please....

[@jerbear8884]

Will we get a follow up list for the "Mega X" Xenologue and the Griseous Expansion? I hear Mega Charizard X is the hardest boss in the game so I wanna go in with the Finest.

[@ImportedCheese]

Mega Charizard X is the same as base charizard except he has 3 move!

[@jerbear8884]

@@ImportedCheese But does he have Omnipotence?

[@digieykid6096]

I’ve used two move Pokémon before. I found it mildly annoying at times, but I didn’t feel like they were weak because of it. Though I also don’t give a sh*t about efficient play or doing things quickly.

[@ImportedCheese]

It's so awful...when will Nobunaga answer for his crimes

[@permafrostyx]

Guardian charm ssssss tier

[@ImportedCheese]

good on Charizard

[@glordery2]

When are they going to make pokemon birthright and pokemon revelation?

[@ImportedCheese]

Patreon only!!! (In the interest of transparency, no, they will not be on Patreon lol )

[@chrom9986]

no other youtuber satisfies my pokemon AND fire emblem needs like imp cheese does

[@ImportedCheese]

Let's! Deploying!

[@Circ00mspice]

I regret not getting Pokemon Conquest while it was on sale back in the day😭

[@ImportedCheese]

These days it's..........free

[@Circ00mspice]

​@@ImportedCheese🏴‍☠️

[@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237]

Cheese must fire his English voice actor, his Japanese voice actor is way Serperior

[@ImportedCheese]

If it's Seperior then maybe he should be the one fired

[@RobFarrell2002]

just a strange observation i made watching this, a lot of the 2 move pokemon are very heavy. Maybe they devs used weight to help them decide?

[@ImportedCheese]

At least Smash charizard is heavy but has a fast run