Pokemon Scarlet/Violet is Embarrassing

[@Wlaker]

All I want is for your rival to start the game by running up to you, knocking you out, mugging you and spitting on your unconscious body to make sure you know who they are.

[@shiny_teddiursa]

Tbh the friendly competitive rival isn’t bad, but the evil teams need to be, like actually evil. The past two gens the evil teams have been just street punks, and now the evil team is literally just a bunch of delinquent youths. An actual organized crime syndicate that poses an actual threat to the region or world makes for a better plot, at least i think it does.

[@lorcanzo2498]

I want you to get your Pokémon stolen. Say in gen 1 you pick charmander, you get mugged and lose charmander and have to pick another. S

[@Gijojojo561]

Just like the show!

[@Wlaker]

@@lorcanzo2498 they only way to get another pokemon is to fight it yourself, it won't obey you if it deems you weaker than it.

[@realpotassium]

The friendly rivals can be good too, as long as they’re actually a challenge and have some personality

[@fattesttitsincairo]

I won't get over the bit where Nemona's like "look at this beautiful landscape !" and it shows you these gorgeous N64 mountains with the Banjo Kazooie trees.

[@_JustAnotherKid__]

^This right here 😂

[@mini8964]

Every time you go up a light house. one npc said some shit like "is this one of the great sights of paldea" and its literally cheese land from Mario kart

[@seg162]

(mountains can't be friends)

[@yorugan1806]

youre killing me xDD

[@jnetwork3232]

I can’t 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@OldMateRiver]

20 something years later and we still have to imagine half of the combat. Why can't they add animations for when they miss?

[@cameronbartlett856]

Because out of all the improvements they could do, that one would be the least beneficial. They can't optimize the game as is, so why double the number of attack animations?

[@bfgfanatic1747]

@@cameronbartlett856 Alternate attack animations wouldn't stress performance, just file size. And not by much either.

[@Drachenfan9393]

I am missing those animations, too. :s makes me wonder, if developers and others there ever look at what people wish, from big stuff to small cute details.... Plus some other stuff is missing, which at least partially existed before: Pokémon having closed eyes and slower motion when they were put to sleep and it really bothers me when you lose a battle there is no 'losing' dialogue or anything... You'll wordlessly get teleported to the last poke center you were and everyone has amnesia so there is so different dialogue when you arrive to battle npc XY. I don't want to spoiler so I wrote no personal example but yeah, it often felt like they are missing those smaller details that would make the game whole. It is missing some soul one might say. I wish we could fusion all well made parts of different Pokémon games together so that we get the experience we desperately want (at least me xD)

[@danielhicks1824]

It would be a huge amount of new animations to make. They can't even animate all the pokemon

[@lionslicer9999]

This did for the pokemon stadium games. The reason they got rid of it was because of how long it made the battles.

[@reasonf50]

They honestly went from mega evolutions to slapping a water fountain on the pokemons head

[@augustyn2.0]

i mean mega evolutions were cool looking, but mechanically they just weren't that game changing. tera types (like dynamax) works for all pokemon, not just the favorites. i really don't understand why everyone wants megas back when it just means we get less lol. i guess if megas were added in with the new gimmick sure, but they just aren't as great as everyone seems to remember them being.

[@frzxt2157]

@@augustyn2.0 We get "less", so then add more variety to the megas, even z moves and dynamax's were cooler, I don't understand how anyone can think going from a mega to a pokemon with a water fountain on its head is an improvement. I usually like the new gimmicks but this terastallize stuff sucks.

[@augustyn2.0]

@@frzxt2157 visually, sure, terastallization isn’t impressive. but the impact that is has on the actual important aspect of the game, battling, is so much bigger than any of those ever were. the amount of variety that tera types add to the game is so much larger than megas, z moves or dynamax could ever hope to achieve. unless they have every existing pokemon a mega, tera’s are just better.

[@ilyashussein5972]

@@frzxt2157 tera has way more usage tactically then MEGAS or Z moves, it literally makes Pokémon that were previously trash good and threatening

[@thelegendofmanuvods9751]

@@ilyashussein5972 But what percentage of the playerbase actually cares for comp? Less then 2%. Megas looked cool and were powerful. Dont overthink everything

[@polski8bit]

Credit where credit is due, you've got to have some serious balls to make one of the characters say "Look at this view, isn't it beautiful?" while panning the camera in 20ish FPS around the early PS2 environments and N64 quality textures, and not in a charming way.

[@omgitzthunderlol4598]

Balls of steel

[@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels]

Dude, GameCube games look better than this. Truly saddening.

[@itskitt3237]

I thought the exact same thing. Shit had ps2 Spyro graphics in late 2022 and tried to convince the player it’s beautiful

[@niko382]

Lmaooo I was thinking the same thing😭

[@bBrooksR]

@@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels I honestly wouldn’t give two spits if it looked like dog ass. I wish they would make a difficulty slider instead of it just pushing you through the game.

[@JubbJubb_]

The phrase, “quality over quantity” really needs to be respected more nowadays…

[@ramox6662]

rappin mario spittin facts fr

[@michaelouzts4290]

genwunner lmaoooo

[@dad_bot_3924]

Bro pls Patrick I love you van you five me your rock

[@grassdog46]

it’s not respected because it isn’t true, people will buy this game whether it’s framey or not. to a company that’s all that matters. capitalism baby!

[@lonewolf9578]

Fr

[@Lowgenn]

The even sadder part about them not doing voice acting is that they'd only have to hire a few people. They have like 15 different models in the whole game.

[@sakiradio]

honestly the only voice acting they need is main story shit too. Like random npcs I can excuse no voice acting as most of the time you don't even care what they say anyways lol But main story has SO MUCH WRITING and the whole idea of "the games for kids" makes me always me wonder why voice acting isn't in, this would help kids actually understand stuff no?

[@weedlechu]

Or they could do what Undertale and other RPGs did and just have a tone playing that matches the character’s voice pitch. You don’t even need voice actors for that one, it’s just a synth. Would be so much better than the silence there is currently lmao

[@Donirexian]

they could've done random sounds like TLOZ series does, it's very simple but effective in getting across a character's personality and just gives more life to the game in general

[@mattie.f00]

You would really want voice acting? Most people would just mash through dialogue anyways. Why go through the effort?

[@ARexplor]

All the different languages tho…

[@Firomus]

I absolutely love Charlie's reaction to seeing himself in the game. Just "oh hey it's me".

[@CameronAdams]

Timestamp?

[@ggggg-mo9vl]

@@CameronAdams9:23

[@joeguy6583]

I hate how the regional villains get less and less threatening as time goes on.

[@BiskitBoiMJ]

Play through Team Star's storyline, its actually really good.

[@expecttheunexpectable7775]

@@BiskitBoiMJ I definitely wasn't expecting to like the team star leaders as much as I did

[@XgoDuo]

Eh, Gen 1 was the mod Gen 2 was the mob but worse Gen 3 and 4 had major world ending stakes with Natural disasters and World distortion Gen 5 was Pokémon peta which is objectively the most powerful Gen 6 was either world ending or city ending I honestly couldn’t tell seeing as the laser did fire but didn’t do much damage Gen 7 was the wormholes… not sure how that was inherently bad Never played 8 Gen 9: skipping class. All things considered the evil teams have been varying degrees of dangerous but I can agree that this team isn’t a threat in the slightest. Mild inconvenience at worse. At least they are wel devolved

[@risinghopper1213]

@@XgoDuoGen 8: SIMPS!!!!!!!

[@badbonezthlegnd2049]

@@XgoDuo 8 was a gym leader made people raging fans of his sister just to cheer her on. And this gen technically isn’t really skipping school it’s bullied kids that become the bullies. That disappear.

[@johnjo6315]

Despite his normal monotone voice Charlie still manages to sound so much more bored than he normally is

[@Cron0s91]

Truly dissapointed

[@giggitygiggitygigism]

Lmao nailed it

[@chicagospartan4242]

It’s prolly a combination of the covid he has rn and how annoyingly unfinished this game is.

[@RM22201]

He’s really hasn’t been monotone for a number of years idk why people say this

[@ranitaloca717]

@@chicagospartan4242 nah, his voice is really monotone. I even sleep with videos of him in the background

[@dbzmaster1213]

I like how they STILL do the "stretch out empty hand towards player's empty hand" to give an item animation Edit: I did not intend to start a debate on whether or not it's lazy to not use an item during the animation lol.

[@chillsynth0]

so lazy. even roblox games are better

[@izimsi]

just add the damn item model moving from one hand to another, that might be much better already

[@walter4180]

@@chillsynth0 I get the sentiment, but it's not lazy thousands of games do it. it's just smart since it's a basic action you'll see over and over that's quick and effective. it'd be like saying "tf, they have the same mouth flaps when in non important conversations". Like no, it's just non-important NPC interaction no one will care about.

[@isaiahrichards9319]

@@walter4180 Attention to detail is always welcome though. I feel like it's what separates the great games from the mediocre ones.

[@cogahan]

That animation is still going strong. Since X and Y babyyyy

[@Aceburn5]

The fact that you are actually in the game makes this even more insane

[@BARUtubbig]

What

[@HalimWO]

@@BARUtubbig an npc named mc sledge looks a lot like charlie. Could just be a coincidence

[@Aceburn5]

This is what y’all been waiting for

[@C_Train74]

Several NPCs look like him. There’s even blonde palette swaps.

[@conic2721]

@@HalimWO Also Sledge screams "This is what y'all have been waiting for" when introducing the Leader.

[@SingeScorcher]

Most of your rivals didn't hate you. Silver from gen2 ABSOLUTELY Hated you. You were the one constant in his life that proved his worldview wrong at every turn. Silver couldn't stand that he couldn't beat you.

[@Rathian03]

He accepted you in post game though

[@SingeScorcher]

@@Rathian03 True, and that's part of why he's so fondly remembered as far as rivals go. His last fight with you pre game was him understanding and confirming for himself that he needed to grow as a person, and he showcases that in the post game.

[@michaelsemon4741]

Immediately what I thought of

[@calebporter3735]

The only rivals I think that hated you were Blue and Silver, unless I'm mistaken. The closest I think we've gotten to jerk rivals since Gen 2 are Hugh and Gladion, but both of them are explained to have trauma instead of being awful people. Gladion had an abusive mom and ran away to join a gang making him edgy with bad social skills, while Hugh and his sister were attacked by Neo Team Plasma, making him paranoid and extremely mad at everyone. EDIT: Forgot about Klara and Avery who fall under "Is a jerk towards you because they're a jerk" and N who falls under "Is a jerk towards you because he's traumatized"

[@slavkei]

​@@calebporter3735 Blue never hated you. The English translation made him pretty rough around the edges, but mostly he just acts like an excited 10 year old competing with his best friend and acting like a 10 year old. The whole "Smell ya later!" thing was a really bad translation. In the Japanese dialogue, he just says "Well, be seeing ya!". For some reason - possibly because it was 1998- the translators decided to use a Simpsons quote instead.

[@devastatheseeker9967]

They don't even need full voice acting. Just have dialogue grunts. People just going "oh" or "hmm" and it is instantly elevated much higher

[@MyNameIsSalo]

temtem did that, pc version of pokemon, and it drove me absolutely insane after 5minutes that i turned off dialogue sound. So I'd have to HEAVILY disagree with you here

[@apolloeggo3677]

I disagree, Zelda does that and ngl it gets kind of tiring

[@cscrunklfrk]

danganronpa moment

[@grimtidings5451]

Fire Emblem Awakening did that and with a good amount of sounds and phrases it could work with Pokémon.

[@cheesesniper473]

It KINDA works in animal crossing too.

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

you can definitely tell they were crunched to hell and back to get this game out for the holidays and it makes me sad to see ANY game get crunched like this

[@LiterallyFishy]

It's so obvious this game got crunched and to think, Legends Arceus came out earlier this year, 2 games that are unlike anything GameFreak has ever done before came out in the exact same year

[@admiralmage1544]

Uhhhh actually no, beginning of this year they introduced a four day work week.

[@shiny_teddiursa]

yeah sucks because it really seems like the team was actually ambitious with this project, but had no time to implement it properly. Cuz honestly this sort of open world pokemon formula absolutely needs more time to be fleshed out

[@Philosophical24]

Facts

[@Dell-ol6hb]

@@admiralmage1544 what? Do you think 10 months on a four day work week is enough to finish a video game like this? No wonder it's so sloppy, it's a miracle they even managed to get it to work at all tbh

[@jackiesharp018]

I miss Gary as a rival. It felt amazing to have professor oak be like 'so what's my grandsons name?' You just named him like dipshit and it was the best source of comedy.

[@Camilla550]

A boy in my school called him Poo and he thought it was the funniest thing ever 😂

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Gary? the one who acts like a smug and belittles us even after losing all the time to us? that weak rival? Klara from SWSH was better rival

[@CrusaderGamin]

I named him fa g and id laugh every time there was a conversation

[@SpazerLaser]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 who the fuck is klara? wait i forgot. theres 2 rivals. yeah. i forgot. wonder why.

[@DarthLiam-gd1wc]

HIS NAME, IS NOT, GARY!!!!!!!!

[@AhriFae]

Its so nice to see him play old PS2 games. Brings back memories

[@cheekydaze6018]

This isn't an upscaled PSP game?

[@shinykrishna8169]

You never played Pokémon on PS2 I promise you

[@ThiagoHaomaru]

@@shinykrishna8169 r/woooosh

[@shinykrishna8169]

@@ThiagoHaomaru I understood the joking they were making. But Tagging a subreddit on KZbin was the most cringe thing I saw on the internet all day

[@NikoKyunKyun]

ain't that a 3ds game tho? i remembered ps2 is a graphical powerhouse

[@ironicanimewatcher]

I love the sound of disappointment Charlie makes when he hears that male Ralts can't evolve into Gardevoir even though thats just completely wrong

[@EmmyEntropy2000]

To be fair they used to be able to.

[@Altharionn]

@@EmmyEntropy2000 and... they still are

[@IAmTheBugInsideYou]

Didn't even have to look that up to know chat was gaslighting

[@EmmyEntropy2000]

@@Altharionn Oh are they? My bad, Thought they changed it after gen 4. Havent used any of that line in a long time.

[@thememeguy2195]

@@EmmyEntropy2000 Male Gardevoir's are still available. They can evolve to Gradevoir through level up while to get a Gallade they need the use of a stone.

[@party11440]

It's crazy how we reached a point where the new Sonic game is somehow more polished than the new Pokemon game

[@ShadowCringelord]

Facts

[@bcav712]

Now that you say it that's actually insane

[@AsecasJavi]

@@bcav712 tell me of a pokemon game that's really polished and not rushed

[@mirraisnow6050]

New sonic game has way crazier pop in. Im waiting until the extreme popin gets fixed

[@bcav712]

@@AsecasJavi OG D&P and B&W seemed fine and obviously ran well. Honestly there’s quite a few Pokémon games that came out finished. Edit: the fact some of you say D&P are some of the worst games in the series is just baffling, and I know Platinum is just a straight up upgrade.

[@space_ace456]

the amount of love charlie has for quaxly is unexpectedly wholesome

[@Fermin-hw5pd]

Quaxlyyyyyy

[@bowgart683]

He actually has good taste!!!

[@Top10Speed]

Of course they had too rush this game for the holidays & not give a shit about the quality of the actual game itself LOL...

[@Dea2766]

Typical Nintendo they rush games that arnt even good in the first place apart from super mario odyssey, smash ultimate and breath of the wild, the rest are crap

[@SMD965OFFICIAL]

People end up buying them anyways

[@dundinwilson7733]

Have y'all played it, or just watching people play it?

[@paprzyckie]

@@Dea2766 The thing is, I'm pretty sure nintendo isn't even a part of this. Maybe they published it, but game freak can do better. They make billions a year...

[@kaikollas]

@@Dea2766 its not nintendo though, its gamefreak

[@bagelisdead]

I love how everyone seems to agree that voice acting would increase the quality of the games by a significant amount. If they're going to constantly drag us through a lot of dialogue, at least give us something so it's not just a bunch of reading and silence.

[@creightonthewanderer6373]

What do you mean you don’t love it when Japanese games use walls upon walls of text to run through every anime cliche in the book because Japanese people are too scared to change up their formula.

[@aeonsen1507]

@@creightonthewanderer6373 begone bigot

[@jimmyprimetime1050]

@@aeonsen1507 Not really bigotry when Japanese business culture literally embraces tradition and being hyper-conservative with any sort of change.

[@socalledmonstertamer3667]

@@jimmyprimetime1050 true

[@veggsbacon1891]

Freaking pokemon masters ex has voice acting. If a MOBILE GAME can have it, then what's their cheap excuse to not utilize it on their MAINLINE games? Hypocrisy

[@aprilhippie8752]

According to an article I read on someone said the reason Pokémon doesn't and probably will never have voice acting is as follows:" Pokemon games are not voiced and probably never will be. According to the developers, adding voice would take out the players from the experience of a Pokemon game." Which is honestly a piss poor excuse what they probably meant to say is we don't have enough time to add voice acting to these games because of the unreasonable deadlines the higher ups force upon us.

[@Mandolin_AU]

They cant afford voice acting but they can afford to slap an ed sheeran song in the credits

[@stinkystinkypoopystinkypeepee]

My life smells

[@AMnotQ]

@@nancyvandermeer4480 that’s the joke.

[@a.b.cooper4807]

They WHAT

[@wintergreen1436]

Out of everyone they could've gotten why ed Sheeran ew

[@red.d0430]

because he’s obviously super Spanish

[@skelengeityor7630]

Funny thing about voice acting in Pokemon is that they did that for Pokemon Masters EX, a mobile game. From my knowledge it's the only official Pokemon game to have it (If you count spin-offs as official). Crazy to think how they can get VAs for characters even from Sword and Shield, but lock them exclusively in a mobile app

[@Fredgeorge10]

The new Pokemon Snap game for Switch had VA too, though it was developed by Bandai Namco

[@kyotanaka920]

@@Fredgeorge10 its official. Pokemon is held back by GameFreak. As if we needed confirmation

[@bottlecapninja1048]

Don't forget the pokemon trading card game that came out a long time ago...

[@Mandiness]

I think Pokémon Puzzle League for the N64 had voice acting. Not sure if it was unique clips for the game or just stuff taken directly from the anime though.

[@bottlecapninja1048]

Actually, can we count "Hey you, Pikachu" as having voice acting? The games main feature was speaking through a microphone...

[@HanakoIsHereIGuess]

I love how Charlie can sound so excited yet so bored whenever he says anything.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

You mean "sound like Charlie" at all times then 😂

[@fatmcgee509]

Guys come on, the 2 superfans that made this worked really hard for like 6 months. There’s an impressive amount of content and polish for a fan project and I think they did a great job. ….What’s that? ….it was made by Game Freak? ….over three years in development? ……….oh.

[@sogmeister]

crying laughing

[@greengaming2264]

To be honest there are lot of reason on why modern Pokemon games are lacking each generation. Not only does game freak have a small team of 169, while most other studios have a have at the very least in the 1000's. Not to mention they had to work on several big projects at the same time. Pokemon games also take a lot of time and work to make, seeing how you how to change and update models to work with a new style or just the device it's on, make completely new models, make the map which in this game is very big, and a whole heap of other things. Since Pokemon are triple A games and are partly owned by Nintendo it's harder to extend the time till realize, seeing Nintendo and Game Freak guaranteed don't care if it looks good or works period. And all the other problems game designing and development can have. So, if anything don't be mad or disappointed with the people who worked on it, and more angry with the people who call the shots.

[@Tupac6780]

@@greengaming2264 so who's to blame?

[@greengaming2264]

@@Tupac6780 whoever is in charge of saying when they make they make a game. Whoever is in charge of that just doesn't let their devs work on one game at a time.

[@angel_of_rust]

@@greengaming2264 so many fuckin excuses

[@Zyamos99]

At the very start of the video, when the three starters are looking up at Charlie in the cutscene, their models are tilted upwards instead of them looking upwards.

[@SnivyTries]

Oh my fucking god THEY ARE.

[@PanTran]

Holy fucking shit

[@gideon903]

That's actually so embarrassing

[@ejelbertson9974]

Gamefreaks laziness knows no bounds.

[@zebanon5286]

SON OF A-

[@agent56100]

I hate that the rival isn’t just Uber-friendly now, but since Sun/Moon they ALWAYS choose the type weakness

[@darknesswave100]

Does it really matter though? By the time you battle them again you'd have a type they're weak against anyways specifically for it. Same with when they'd choose the one that's better against the one you pick. You'd have a typing specifically for one that is strong against the one you have. It makes no difference

[@lexicorviknight8233]

Final forms of Paldea Starters: Fire-Ghost. Grass-Dark. Water-Fighting. The balance has been maintained. Also in Sun, Moon, Sword, Shield it was justified by the fact that the third starter was used by the final boss + Hau had an Eeveelution which was superior in type to your starter.

[@CharlemagneGuy127]

At least they knew to make the rival a woman this time to spur the R34 art. That last kid Hop or whatever, I remember just hating him because he would never get mad or resent me for usurping his brother as Pokémon champion and repeatedly beating his tiny ass in battle all the time like “oh my god, don’t you care that I whup your asses 7 days to Sunday each time we meet?!”

[@T-Rex-Effex419.99]

I remember in black and white when you’d pick the fire type. 1 friend we choose the baby grass type and your rival would pick the fuckin chad water type that towards the end of the game would basically just 1-shot your starter Pokémon

[@Sesameking482]

Yeah, the rivals are kinda empty husks now. They do not need to be aggressive, they just need more emotions. Like they are more tutorial guides than rivals. They are on your side too much. they feel like a npc you pass by than an important character in your story.

[@lynx4082]

I'm finding the game hilarious in it's half baked state but it's very concerning that the two trailers for Iono had probably 10x the budget the actual game had because holy HELL

[@monarchhorse1989]

Same, I’m sad to see that it clearly appears as if it was released a few months earlier than it really should have been, but some of the bugs and goofy stuff makes it pretty entertaining to me.

[@blablafreak3551]

Honestly I don't think the problem is budget but time

[@Jack-V-Man]

Its because they DONT HAVE TO make a good game. Y'all will buy it anyways. Yall keep forgetting your not the audience, the audience is like ten year olds. Of COURSE your not gonna like it. Go play Nexomon if you want something for an adult.

[@benro6564]

@@Jack-V-Man yeah because it's a children's game, they don't have to put any effort into it. What a braindead take

[@Xenshi.]

@@Jack-V-Man if the audience is 10 year olds, then why do they always advertise charizard? the audience are gullible people of all ages

[@logeymusic]

"to be fair, this is the most I've seen on screen at a time" 15 characters, 2 looping animations. q u a l i t y

[@thomex6424]

Charlie makes a good point, You can still have fun with it, but that doesn't mean it isnt disappointing

[@MalMalWasTaken]

True. I am having fun with this game but I'm dissapointed in some aspect of it.

[@Iffondrel]

I told my friend this when pitching the game: it's not a very good game, but I'm having a lot of fun lol

[@angel_of_rust]

"fun" is jus at thinly veiled word to hide copium at this point

[@Echantediamond1]

Haters gonna hate

[@vektor8087]

True, I had a jolly good time when I bought my copy of No More Heroes 3, and that wasn’t one of the brightest games of 2021, but it still had the Suda51 feel to it, I wanted more of that, so I got what I paid for. Now, I don’t know if there’s anyone that would buy mainline Pokémon games for the charm, but I can see both casual fans of the franchise and people that don’t play games very often, finding some of the aspects fun.

[@lsswappedcessna]

I love everyone's reaction to rivals choosing the ineffective typing these days, but Charlie's "Are you stupid???" was probably the best!

[@c.m.9369]

I didn't even know they still made entirely new Pokemon games for the GameCube. And honestly, for running on a console that is over two decades old, this game doesn't look too bad.

[@greenbrickbox3392]

Crazy to see how well the graphics have held up after over a decade, just imagining how well the game would run and look if it was on a modern console like a PS3.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

Yeah it does look like something on the GameCube not gonna lie, might buy it still.

[@saricubra2867]

Gamecube cannot render modern open world or would be literally a wasteland (Zelda Wind Waker).

[@OhmyWrist]

@@PichusBlueberryPies it’s on the switch 😐

[@OhmyWrist]

@@greenbrickbox3392 who still plays ps3😐

[@xHeigoux]

I liked how nemonia is like "see, terastalising gives your attacks a real boost" after she dealt like 3 damage to my weed cat with that electric type move.

[@Stooled]

It’s always nice to see charlie supporting small game developers!

[@BiskitBoiMJ]

This comment is probably a joke but gamefreak literally IS a small dev

[@ardent1983]

@@BiskitBoiMJ small team with huge amounts of resources that other similarly sized teams no doubt lack

[@Dragon81205]

@@BiskitBoiMJ yeah, that last time I check they have like 150 employees or something

[@travisdickens4304]

@Cojo Mojo legally, yes, but consider that the entirety of Valve consists of only 400 people. That includes all the people who run steam, develop hardware, software, and games, and even their regular staff.

[@fantrash5698]

@@travisdickens4304 wow I never new valve had that many people on staff, especially since they have their own console out. Thought they had thousands of members.

[@dylanfarris7647]

I adore that this game gives these big grand camera angles of the world during cutscenes, when it literally looks as good as the 3D pokemon gamecube games lol

[@midnari]

... Uh. Did you play Coliseum? There were a LOT of hard edges.

[@sebastianbudz3109]

@@midnari colosseum was made in 2003, it’s inexcusable that a 2022 Pokémon game even be compared to that. It’s sad to see how greedy this franchise is and how little care they put into the games.

[@bradleywright2229]

tbh i'd say the gamecube games look *better* than violet/scarlet

[@XxKing99xX]

@@bradleywright2229 I think so too lol

[@zombiekingex7911]

Pokepark on the wii is more visually appealing than this

[@Shoyren]

I really like how this game plays but I absolutely wouldn’t have minded waiting an extra year or 2. This feels like an early access game.

[@ZurilasZone]

I dont think waiting any years wouldve changed it

[@Emil-sh6sq]

It looks like a hobby-project started by one person and maybe a couple friends, not the company responsible for creating a game for the highest-grossing media franchise of all time.

[@unixtreme]

​@@ZurilasZone The problem is Game Freak are crap at the technical aspect, no matter how long they would've had they would've made a crappy game performance wise. Someone hit the jackpot with the OG pokemon formula and the money started rolling in so all they do now is just rush out games to keep milking it. It's unfortunate because the game would be decent without the performance issues, once you explore around and start catching pokemon it's definitely more engaging than other pokemon games.

[@anonymousalien7417]

@@Emil-sh6sq At least small indie projects usually have passion put into them

[@sosayweall_jpg]

@@unixtreme that's a poor excuse but it does make sense. they just seem too complacent to care, or maybe think games like this are actually good. Or maybe "good enough" to release. they have the money to fund a proper production, but they release shit like this year after year. pokemon sorely needs some big changes.

[@cameronbartlett856]

I swear all their efforts towards performance went into the ending, it was literally the only scenes that didn't look like they were jumping between 15 and 30 fps, and there was a LOT going on that would make you think it should have been looking like it does when trying to speed run blight town in ds1.

[@piercetanner]

It's like how in Final Fantasy/Kingdom Hearts when the movie cutscenes were a thing of beauty for their time, but the actual gameplay cutscenes were just from the actual game graphics, except it's 20 years later and nothing has changed.

[@r.r.4563]

It was rushed g. There are multiple really well animated cutscenes throughout the game that run smoothly. The issue is that they couldn’t keep that quality for the whole game. So they picked and chose key moments. Now this is still inexcusable don’t get me wrong but it shows they really could have made something consistently fire if they just had more time. Fuck the Pokémon company for their deadlines.

[@dumbdenki3164]

gamefreak could literally shit on the face of a die hard pokemon fan, and the fan would thank them for it

[@joyboy6472]

worse. they'll even pqy 60$ for it

[@th3noobman]

@@joyboy6472 even worse, they'll pay another $60 twice for a different variation of the shit

[@befrugalwithus]

I have bought ever game since Red and Blue. I just saved myself 120. This is sad people are okay with this.

[@fizziepop4421]

A terrastalized shit 🥰

[@mariotheundying]

The Pokemon fan would complain, take a bite out of it, keep complaining and saying how gross it is and tastes, and eat a whole buffet of just that

[@somanyfruitsmango9021]

This generation leaked about two weeks early. The entire game was leaked, and you could play it prior to its official release. However, it's essentially impossible to emulate properly. Lots of graphical issues, frame-rate drops, missing models, random crashes. Looking at the game on release... Maybe the game was always being emulated properly...

[@jst_TV]

Hasn’t that (the leaks) been true for all Pokemon generations since the 3DS? IIRC SuMo got leaked 6 months before the release date and every game since then has had a Day -7 leak cause employees at retailers get early copies and dump them online

[@ianlawvoiceover1056]

It wasn't emulated properly but go off my guy

[@Jollofmuncher2000]

maybe i was too harsh on the yuzu emulator. did a good job at accurately portraying the experience

[@Zytek.]

@YeaMan cant even spell "page" right lmao

[@Jerbsinator]

Idk Mutahar said he was emulating it and it was running fine but he is a wizard so maybe that's why.

[@half8n191]

I love when twitch chat tries to inform charlie of something about the game and they're always 100% wrong in whatever tf it is they're talking about 😂

[@dundinwilson7733]

Welcome to the internet!

[@nathanpapp432]

Streamer will always read the one wrong answer in a sea of correct answers too.

[@teloscyberman]

yes like how apparently gardevoir cant be male 🤣

[@juxoq]

@@teloscyberman its a common misconception because gallade is gender locked

[@pixxlated_]

@@nathanpapp432 it's normal human nature unfortunately. drama and negativity spread faster and are more noticeable because being nice to people is, genetically, normal between humans.

[@AJeazy]

I think the frustrating part is this could have been so much better. An open world pokemon game Is a fantastic idea. Being able to do any gym in any order is great. But it's executed so badly.

[@ShadowEclipse777]

Conceptually S/V could have been the best pokemon game ever, especially due to Area Zero

[@platypusparasol9825]

honestly when i heard about the open world concept i just re-downloaded pokemon crystal clear instead.

[@anonanonymous9670]

@@ShadowEclipse777 Area Zero is just a knock-off Made in Abyss

[@AJeazy]

@@platypusparasol9825 I myself got blazed black 2 redux

[@Saben.C-Spoon]

Worst part is the idea has been around since SM and they still have yet to do it

[@joelsinventions]

The worst part by far isn’t even the graphics: it’s the lack of level scaling. They literally expect you to find the exact random linear order of challenges and you’re bound to be absurdly under or over levelled for different areas if you don’t look up a guide online…

[@blaster915]

Yeah, it's been pretty messy when you clear the top gyms early thinking you found the game, but realized you took out already all the challenge (minus the Pokémon league)

[@LhLeo]

Every gym I stepped in so far just keep sending out baby Pokémon to get one shot by my 40’s and honestly I didn’t do craps to reach these level specifically to begin with. (Some areas can outlevel you but most Pokémon would just keep failing the same move and when you catch them you get massive xp) It is also weird that it’s obvious our rival this time is basically a champion rank and she’s only handicapping her levels. Then why the hell they wouldn’t put an extra step in so she can actually send out Pokémon that really match our levels? And the “you are so incredible” kind of praising just feels off and unearned. They even marked places you’ve visited in number orders, guess they really don’t have the time to scale out the levels

[@GamingLovesJohn]

I was battling higher level mons by 9-10 levels, thinking I was severely under leveled day 2. And then I went to another location and found that I was super overlevelled at 33+ vs level 17 trainers and such.

[@piagebot2943]

@@LhLeo i actually had the opposite experience being pretty underleveled and fighting for my life with mons that r like 5-10 levels below the gyms I went to. The titans were a nightmare because you dont even know what level any of them r

[@Terminaut1]

This, I've complained about this and a bunch of pkmn Stan's just start shouting at me about this

[@LucasStrandell]

To simultaneously make a game look AND run this badly is truly a feat

[@khaz8460]

inb4 Pokemon fans flock around this comment and defend the game.

[@TheProfessor66]

Not even looks, it looks good

[@yeajustno7045]

@@TheProfessor66 it absolutely doesnt look good games on the ps2 looked better than this, gamefreak needs to get their shit together and actually try for once

[@b-mill4306]

@@TheProfessor66 it looks good for a Pokémon game sometimes and other times it looks awful

[@TheProfessor66]

@@yeajustno7045 you expect a kids game to be as realistic as possible?

[@K-Dizzle.]

My main issue is most NPC's have no dialogue. Instead of looking for trades or extras, I've gotten to where I ignore them. The copy/pasted vendors in town led to the same treatment. Also coming from Arceus, I really miss being able to chuck a pokeball at anything for a quick catch.

[@attaug]

The whole copy-paste shops is super egregious too. In the FIRST city they take you to with the school, the one that should WOW the player as the first sight they see and set up the rest of the game... one corner has two of the same exact shop pasted next to eachother and another wall has something like Cafe-grill-cafe. I understand they only had so many stores to work with, but they could have just made those buildings not interactable and not just Ctrl+v Ctrl+c. It's frustrating because as many have been saying, this pokemon generation actually has a lot of good going for it... it's just horribly executed.

[@IcarusOOT]

@@attaug I saw like 3-4 shops one after the other

[@lonelystar2629]

@@attaug I was mad because all I wanted was a different shirt and it was like no you must go to each shop for each different article of clothing, and none of those shops have shirts or pants.

[@winxwin4790]

@@lonelystar2629 you cant switch out of the 4 uniforms you get at the start, kinda frustrating that they didn't make that clear to the player. There is a green book in the library that says students cant switch out of their uniforms but it's kind of hidden away.

[@RxRj]

Yep exactly... In previous games I used to talk to every npc, enter every shop/house. But here it's mostly copy paste everywhere so I don't bother. Also most shops are food shops which I'm not much interested in atleast atm

[@slimewizard7350]

I would gladly wait until 2030 for the gen 10 games if it means it will give the devs enough time to make a definitive Pokémon experience. I know for a fact it’s the time constraints that have been holding these games back since gen 6. Alola was kickass in its story, Paldea seems good, and Kalos and Galar were pretty fun. But there’s always glaring issues that keep them from feeling like fully made games definitive Pokémon games.

[@tobysmith2081]

This game was pretty damn close to a definitive Pokemon experience. If they had more biome interactions and interactions between Pokemon, I would have said it was the definitive Pokemon experience. I'm someone who stopped after gen 6 and waited for a definitive Pokemon experience too btw

[@gamma00crucis]

@@tobysmith2081 so what you're saying is pokemon inherently sucks huh

[@tobysmith2081]

@@gamma00crucis what I'm saying is it's a fun game. Your opinion is valid though. If you think Pokemon sucks as a concept then don't play the game

[@dawgtheundying5303]

Things just haven't been the same since Gen 5. B2W2 is our definitive Pokemon experience, and I don't think that's going to change.

[@toxicyosh1398]

Glad to see Charlie got his own NPC in this game

[@MrReich1918]

He got 2

[@kappeiboopy4560]

Where I wanna find him

[@lycheefrost625]

@@kappeiboopy4560 the ghost gym

[@kappeiboopy4560]

@@lycheefrost625 could I get a video? I’m REALLY trying to find it

[@RealCryptoTest]

@@kappeiboopy4560 Just look up the backpacker trainer

[@madliquidswordz181]

“It’s a step in the right direction” has been said for the past 10 years gamefreak taking they sweet ass time

[@dolphinpower1107]

To be fair did anyone actually think that about SwSh

[@slickshadows7945]

@@dolphinpower1107 Nah lmao. It was even a step down

[@dolphinpower1107]

@@slickshadows7945 like maybe the DLC but the base game was laughable but at least it functioned I guess.

[@slickshadows7945]

@@dolphinpower1107 yeah DLCs were pretty fun.

[@rabbyd542]

I laughed when people gaslit themselves to believe Arceus was good.

[@SturgeStudios1]

The fact that this is one of the most profitable franchises in gaming, and yet they couldn't put in more time and money to fix the frame rate and bugs is baffling and humiliating.

[@ollytropics1735]

I mean they didn't take the time to make good pokemon we literally have a family of four a flamingo and the cheesstring man as canonical pokemon now

[@zerosolis6664]

Tell that to Nintendo. Stop basing your assumptions on the knowledge that you don't have. Game Freak CAN'T put more time and money in the game that they don't have. They don't control whether or not it gets delayed, how much budget they have, its all Nintendo and Creatures, inc. If you think the actual developers have really any say outside of certain cases like Sony Santa Monica Studio, Square Enix (especially with things like FFVII as an IP) then I don't know what to tell you. Its just that simple.

[@nicolaserrazuriz4]

why do that when millions of dipshits still buy the game xd

[@teewhyeee]

@@ollytropics1735 exactly lmao and don't forget Dudunsparce which is one of the worst evolutions i have ever seen. Also, Finizen evolving into the same pokemon just with a heart on it's chest... only good thing bout that "evolution" is the hero form - they could have done it differently. We get such bland pokemon that don't look cool or even evolve. It's so incredibly bad

[@ollytropics1735]

@@teewhyeee really though like I've found as of late there's pokemon who don't feel like pokemon but this is just insane man like tasutagiri looks like a child drew it

[@omeletteemily932]

I have been a diehard pokemon fan for my entire life. watched the anime, collected the cards, played all main series games and side games like Mystery Dungeon and Snap, my entire room was filled to the brim with plushies and bedsheets and action figures. If it was pokemon, I had it. I grew up going through all the controversial topics like Jynx having its color changed from black to purple because of it being depicted of black face, or like when Pikachu used thundershock against Porygon and caused the Guiness Book World Record for most kids having an epileptic episode while watching a cartoon. I got to see the transition from 2D pixel art sprites to the fully fledged 3D animations and diagonal walking, sitting on chairs, all that good stuff. I am extremely disappointed in this company for basically slapping us in the face with this shitshow of a game. I am truly saddened by the lack of time, passion, and dedication to these games that I thought GameFreak shared with all of us. Honestly would've loved if they could've just done another Legends: Arceus type game to give them some more time to really fine tune S/V before launch. But oh well, I guess this company doesn't care about Pokemon the same way I do.

[@jaziliynn]

Tf you on about. Obviously it's state is inexcusable, but there is probably the best pokemon game to exist past that. Stop trying to find stuff to shit on without objectively looking at it first

[@kathleenoconnell-yf7ls]

To be fair, they were trying, but people were rioting because of how long it was taking, even though this is one of nintendo's common Ls, it isn't really their fault

[@box7147]

Bro S/V is not bad, just stop hating.

[@GhostlyMoonWitch]

I love pokemon so much too. It’s sad see my favorite series go through all of this just because corps want more money. The games look extremely fun, but they already fail because the experience is extremely half baked. That is definitely not worth $60 (or around $100 for dlc and everything).

[@beto31890]

@@jaziliynn you still think it’s the best or are you done fanboying?

[@0RIGINALW1LL]

When she picked the fire starter against your water type and your reaction was the same as mine. “Are you stupid?!”😂😂😂

[@shaxxmeer]

here's the thing with that you probably don't realize this when you pick your starters, but eventually the water will become a water-fighting which counters your grass-dark however, the new tera gimmick completely ruins that small bit of interesting gameplay b/c you can just choose to remove your dark typing and then obliterate them with your effective moves it's really sad that they got close to making the rival's choice actually smart, but threw it away

[@HoloTheWiseWolf324]

But she's a champion! Lol.

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

Just like Hop in Gen VIII, and Hau before him, picking the starter that’s weak to yours. Making these games easier and easier is Game Freak’s whole MO.

[@flerken4233]

She's already beaten the E4 + Champion as your senior at the school, her whole purpose throughout the game is to train you up while going easy on you as you're trying to catch up to her and become a Champion as well. It's an interesting rival dynamic they haven't used in Pokémon before. She's also hilariously clingy to the point of being stalkerish haha.

[@vincnetflores118]

@@JustAnArrogantAlien Otherwise, the kiddies (their main target market) would cry and they can't have that, can they? Soon we'll have a Pokemon game that's all auto-battles!!

[@birdie6359]

I love it when he said “it’s Pokémon time” and then the game crashed. Truly the Pokémon moment ever

[@p1nkf1oyd13]

@Patrick39 his name is Charlie you uncultured swine

[@fishyboy2140]

These boys are fast. Less than one minute and both responded. The weird Patrick pfp one is 20 seconds faster tho.

[@EpicTacoSenpai]

must be you then cause didnt hapeen to me

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

@@fishyboy2140 they use a python script or gboard keyboard to automatically post these comments

[@birdie6359]

@@EpicTacoSenpaihappened after I evo’ed my charcadet & I almost had a stroke cus i forgot to save. It auto saved beforehand thankfully so I just had to evolve it again but now I save constantly out of fear it’ll crash again :( edit: it’s now crashed twice :|

[@FirstLast-lw5wh]

I love that all the moves say whether or not they’re effective and Charlie still questions if his moves will do any damage 😂😂

[@timbuck2406]

The games actually amazing

[@moldyboy186]

Ugh

[@jammo7370]

It’s just type matchup, it doesnt take into account pokemon stats or move power, so depending on circumstance wondering if a move will actually do damage makes sense

[@natsuno.]

@@jammo7370 yeah but it still is possible to predict how much it will do

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@timbuck2406 If you've never played a game before sure...

[@bluebaby3045]

There’s something here to be said about crunch culture and how damaging it can be

[@ShadowEclipse777]

Yeah this could have been the greatest Pokémon game ever but they really ballsed it up

[@Zevolish]

Nemona: You must've been studying up! Smart move - Water is strong against Fire! Also Nemona: Proceeds to use fire type moves to a water type

[@veggsbacon1891]

I hate her, idk why. Maybe I'm just tired of upbeat friends after Hop.

[@TrueLadyEvilChan]

@@veggsbacon1891 Hop was actually good though. So was Hau imo. It was the Gen 6 rivals I had a bigger problem with because they're all kinda Nothing.

[@iantaakalla8180]

At least Nemona here seems to be the sort of person to give herself a challenge by choosing the disadvantaged starter. But as it is the fourth time this had happened there are no excuses even if her behavior justifies her picking the disadvantaged starter.

[@flerken4233]

Nemona actually is already Champion Rank and beaten E4+Champion as your senior, her whole goal in the game is to train you up so you can become a Champion as well- it makes sense for this battle at least why she's battling poorly since it's your first time. Whether or not you like Nemona though is whether you like a hilariously clingy/stalkerish battle maniac character or not.

[@jammo7370]

@@iantaakalla8180 could be justified in universe by her knowing it’s literally your first battle and going extremely easy on you especially after it’s pointed out by the headmaster

[@juliorobles4082]

Team Rocket: Enslaved, tortured and sold pokemon for profit. Team Star: Couple of brilliant kids that play hooky from time to time.

[@TrueLadyEvilChan]

Neo Team Plasma: Terrorist group

[@kevinrosario2729]

Team Yell: Simps wearing team colors and stalking their e-girl

[@victorfelix5718]

Team Satisfaction

[@river7524]

imagine going into a pokemon battle and instead of throwing your pokeball out you just chunk a huge rock at the opposing pokemon and make them faint that way

[@shanemurphy660]

AKA kinda the safari zone lol

[@user-bz6gh5ng2m]

Chuck*

[@topaztp]

thats the safari zone from previous games

[@yupjuliansje]

That would make life a lot easier

[@JeromeBeckett]

Considering rock Pokémon can't always KO their opponent like that I doubt that strategy will work

[@GiantMale]

loved pokemon as a kid, the games for its time were ground breaking. the amount of effort they put in for the past 10-15 years is laughable. but the fandom will always buy every. single. game.

[@briancho237]

Yeah. We have people defending the shitty release in the comments already. I get that the game is fun. But that does not excuse the sorry state it was released in.

[@GiantMale]

@@briancho237 AAA game. Btw. Don’t get me wrong I want a BANGING Pokémon game like anyone else. But it’s just so obvious the lack of effort

[@chaotixthefox]

Gen 5 had immense effort and care. As much as I love Gen 6, that is where they started dropping the ball on the game itself, the lore, designs, etc were still nice and remain nice(despite recent shortcomings in storytelling) but the actual games have been getting worse and worse since then. Less content, perpetual babymode, pathetic battle animation, and in the last few entries awful technical performance.

[@treestump17]

I still like it

[@bulba643]

More like the past seven to eight years. B/W and B/W2 are great games, and X and Y are ok.

[@arianasamrine7134]

I remember on Instagram they had a video of the electric type influencer woman (can’t remember the name off the top of my head) and all of her dialogue was voice acted. It tricked me into thinking this game would have voice acting but then I looked into the comments and realized that she just had voice acting for this one little video but in game it would be silent. That woman having a voice added so much energy and worked really well. It’s embarrassing that the actual game doesn’t have have voice acting.

[@Alvionalx]

iono

[@morganvanlenthe5425]

they spent every dime on advertising and put shit all into the actual game

[@angel_of_rust]

they even have a rapper gym leader, like complete silence couldn't be more immersion-breaking that that

[@Echantediamond1]

@@morganvanlenthe5425 Blame the pokémon company. Gamefreak does all it can with the shit funding, poor hardware, and insane deadlines they have to deal with.

[@cunnysseur4393]

cunnyono

[@davenic2471]

Honestly, this looks like it would be pretty dope if it had, like, a whole extra year in the oven. Shit's undercooked, like it has e coli all over it.

[@Semnome-gv5yg]

Actually it wasnt, i saw that this game was being work around the same time arceus was being finished by a second team, so they did have time, but you wanna know the fun part? The director of this game wasnt the one from arceus, it was the one from SwSh...

[@seanpoulton2446]

@@Semnome-gv5yg shocking. Game freak is up there with 343 in that I expect to be disappointed.

[@SkrubJG]

@@Semnome-gv5yg they didn’t have time lol. This game has been conceptualised for a while but development was at the same time as Arceus. The difference between this game and Arceus is that Arceus would effectively “reset” every time you entered the village. Same thing happens in this game but far less often due to not being forced to enter the city frequently causing a memory leak. There are plenty of issues with controls etc but the memory leak is the main one that will almost certainly get fixed

[@Semnome-gv5yg]

@@SkrubJG yea? It was the exactly what i said, the game was being worked on at the same time arceus was, it had more time than it and came out worse. And no memory leak isnt the only problem the game is having and by far isnt the worse, from model bugs, camera getting stuck in buildings when you enter or leave it, camera showing under the map, models missing, character clipping through the ground, npc wandering lost, models breakings, even some soft locks to even raids breaking and locking or the boss just getting defeat while having more than half his hp. The problem wasnt time, and not really wanting to point fingers but already doing it, its kinda funny it was the same guy that directed Swsh that directed this game and not Arceus

[@Jetashii]

Not really, the entire design looks like dogsht, I love the entire open world idea but riding around on a mechanical bike that jumps and glides looks weird. Make rideable pokemon, you can even add an extra layer with "rideable mounts" and have it so that a select few are rideable and even have legendary pokemon showcased for this as an option, it's like nintendo said "This has to be ready before December" and they just took a steaming hot turd on the franchise dropping this hot garbage of a 1 month developed game.

[@driftwoodpacific5710]

How could you look at fuecoco and not fall in love? He canonically has a dent in his head and looks like he eats glue. He needs the best trainer possible to help him 😂

[@TheNadroj10]

Dent in their heads and probably eats glue? Didn’t know we were talking about pokemon defenders

[@genesisosuna]

Sounds like the typical pokemon player

[@Swirl726]

@@genesisosuna Eat him.

[@fakeuber8254]

@@genesisosuna that’s not very nice 😦

[@driftwoodpacific5710]

@@TheNadroj10 I’m a casual player so idk what “Pokémon defenders” is. Last game I played was Pokémon diamond but I decided to give this one a whirl again because of that stupid look on Fuecoco’s face. 🤷‍♀️

[@shinkenger2011]

I love Barry, Cheren and Bianca with all my heart, but I too miss when your rival actually felt like... your _rival._

[@alphonseelric3513]

Cheren felt like a rival at times for me, I remember going back to his cave everyday just to beat him to a pulp, dude ruined my deathless run many times

[@shinybreloom4027]

Cheren was already quite close. Hugh was also, incidentally, pretty close

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Klara was literally Gen 8, she acts like a rival you want, spraying Toxic Spikes before your fight to poison your pokemon

[@ProdByLJ]

this prototype looks so cool, i can't wait for the beta release

[@noodleshaha]

This is the pre-alpha

[@taylormoreira1266]

This is literally digimon wtf are you guys on about

[@archtitans54]

@@taylormoreira1266 Fool! It’s clearly Bakugan!

[@TopTier06]

@@archtitans54 obviously this is Monster Rancher

[@timerock3493]

@@TopTier06 Tf u mean? Its YuGiOh!!!!

[@epicrogue2815]

as a pokemon superfan it absolutely sucks to see the game launch in this state. i would happily wait another year and have this game have good graphics because all the pieces were there. heres to hoping for a performance patch i guess.

[@cibinomin6540]

why do you care? youre gonna buy every single one of em no matter what state they are in. even preorder

[@getswifty7674]

Are you playing in docked or handheld?

[@realtalk4994]

Good graphics? On the Switch? 😂

[@user-vk5ij4pd4h]

@@realtalk4994 atleast BoTW/Mario odyssey graphics. lol

[@MyNameIsSalo]

you are the reason why gamefreak and nintendo gets away with this shit. "as a pokemon superfan" go touch some grass and stop buying this crap

[@medicgaming6317]

Seeing Charlie say “Holy shit it’s a Shroodle” with the straightest face ever made my week

[@blakestoudt2131]

6:05

[@windolite]

@@blakestoudt2131 ty

[@EJB9]

Such a shame to see the franchise that I used to sink hundreds of hours into as a kid completing pokedexes and grinding my team to level 100 become so grossly uninspired over the last 5-7 years or so

[@functionatthejunction]

It didnt change. You did.

[@Evadann]

@@functionatthejunction exactly.

[@finaltitan]

@@functionatthejunction mental gymnastics to defend a long dead franchise

[@functionatthejunction]

@@finaltitan "a long dead franchise" Pokemon is the most valuable media franchise in the world.

[@finaltitan]

@@functionatthejunction i meant what i said

[@carmalizedvegetation5096]

How did it take 9 generations for Gamefreak to actually have the ten year old go to school?

[@tims.1615]

Most Pokémon games have a school, what are you talking about?

[@spoon7053]

i like how there are adults at the school, probably all the trainers that never got educations as kids that need to catch up

[@boonicle]

@spoon I believe in the trailer it said anyone can join/attend school. If it happened in real life it's fucked cause of diddlers.

[@TheMetalwolf77777]

Best rival was gold that dude straight up smashed and grabbed for his starter Pokemon and every time you battled him it was just pure d-bag awesomeness

[@aleco678]

Yess

[@neofiresonic]

well gen 2 was really good, but what did you expect, that was game freak in their prime with iwata and shit

[@PZynder]

and he kinda redeemed himself throughout the game, he was a cool rival

[@prisoner817]

And he was completely full of himself then eventually learns being a massive dbag isn't making him a better trainer, i loved silver

[@bliss6417]

does N count as a rival

[@muteyfrutey4012]

I have been a huge advocate for voice acting in pokemon games, good or bad voice acting improves emersion(or is just outright funny). what doesnt tho is standing in a barely textured environment while some random important npc explains the story to you silently..

[@Bro-dot-]

It works for 2D perfectly but 3D is meant to shift the genre to be more realistic and lively. A static 2D sprite is more enjoyable than a static 3D sprite because it has a level of imagination to it. Its why the lack of Voice acting and expressive animations in the 3D games makes it feel very hollow and dead at times.

[@RGC_animation]

I have to disagree with you, bad voice acting that isn't ironically funny does make the game worse and isn't better than no voice acting, however, anything better than absolute garbage voice acting would improve the game.

[@midnari]

No. Read. Exercise your mind.

[@Bro-dot-]

@@RGC_animation Voice acting doesn’t always need to be lines of dialogue. Even just adding slight things such as sighs, grunts and small verbal expressions adds way more character and engagement. I believe the new Pokémon snap did something of the sort and countless RPGs do things similar. The dialogue of Pokémon in my head is way more boring and “cringey” than even mediocre voice acting. I mean they can hire and implement some of the lines from the VAs which already portray characters that are featured in each new game.

[@DBZM1k3]

@@RGC_animation There is a threshold that can be passed where it starts to be funny again. Like Evil Dead was supposed to be a serious horror film but it was so bad that it gave the movie a comedic charm. Or to be more analogous the English voice acting in Castlevania Symphony of the Night is so stern and over-the-top while not being particularly well voice acted it actually makes the scene great and memeable.

[@imdeadoutsidetoo]

I really miss the little pixelated sprites in the pokedex, they were my favorite feature

[@kathleenoconnell-yf7ls]

they weren't my favorite, but I appreciated them

[@meyo3]

Something i noticed is that in older pokemon games, the rival chooses the starter pokemon that yours would be weak against. Now though, they choose the one that your starter pokemon would be stronger against. I find they made pokemon games way easier for little kids; in the older games the puzzles were also much harder than they are in current pokemon games.

[@fizzles5]

Such fond memories of getting my ass kicked repeatedly by both the rival AND wally in the OG Pokemon Sapphire...I think I eventually had a friend poketransfer or whatever it was called some of his highlevel pokemon so I could beat Wally...but it's not like I cried about it. I was either eight or nine lmao. the battles actually being hard is what made it a GAME rather than like...some kind of pet training simulator

[@hobojones4728]

Ever since X and Y the rivals have been doing that (black and white too if you count bianca) the older pokemon games like platinum and soul silver had me STRESSING rival battles they actually used to be threat now it's just a big snooze fest

[@eldankdoge]

I hate the rivals being easier than the older games it makes them look more goofy and stupid

[@WolfyPlays]

In few years there will be rom hacks for these games to make them harder and better, like dryano and kaizo stuff or radical red

[@FiveFoxesInATrenchcoat]

Yeah I just played HeartGold and Faulkner wiped the floor with me… even though I had 3 Pokémon at level 12.

[@59hawks]

I think the thing that gets me out of everything. Is honestly the voice acting. I could understand X and Y. Normal voices on chibi characters would be jarring, however proportional humans in a AAA game has no reason. Especially when one of the gym leaders is a vtuber and she was advertised with a voice when they revealed her.

[@Critical_HitZ]

It’s because of all the languages the games are translated in. You’d have to hire a team of voice actors for every single language which is insane. Even the mobile game Pokémon Masters EX and New Pokémon Snap only has English and JP voice acting.

[@doobywoopy3264]

@@Critical_HitZ you say that as if Nintendo couldn’t afford it lmao

[@LanTheArtist]

@@Critical_HitZ pretty much all AAA games have voice acting and support for multiple languages, and Pokemon is the DEFINITION of an AAA game

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@Critical_HitZ If a more niche series such as Fire Emblem introduce full voice acting in Shadows of Valentia and Three Houses, there's absolutely no excuse for why a IP as big as Pokémon can't already have voice acting by Let's Go

[@Critical_HitZ]

@@doobywoopy3264 If they could their other games would have it, which they don’t.

[@why2947]

Don’t know how Gamefreak consistently makes mediocre games, you’d think they’d hit the target eventually

[@nick8402]

The hate for gamefreak is a very recent thing. When pokemon made the jump to 3D, they weren’t able to develop games on the schedule they were used to and had to cut corners to make impossible deadlines

[@singami465]

Merch, TCG, etc make way more money than games. This is just a vehicle for delivering ~100 new designs to make plushies from. Same reason the designs have degenerated - simple shapes are easier to make into merchandise.

[@RapidPhantom293]

(human comment here bots are dumb) Another reason why Gamefreak needs to remake old Pokemon games like XD/Colosseum.

[@ninjafrog6966]

If there’s one thing you can say about GameFreak it’s that at least they’re consistent

[@lkmaxis2678]

Legends Arceus was good though.

[@SwolePapi15]

This game had so much potential. If the optimization was good, and the graphics not so poor it would have been fantastic.

[@frownyclowny6955]

Also if it had any content beyond the main quests, such as fun sidequests, memorable npc dialogue, or a fucking post-game. It doesn’t even have a post-game!

[@normanmerrick9493]

0:50 the rivals never hated you with one exception The Gen 2 rival absolutely despised you. The only reason they became your rival in the first place was because they broke into Elm's lab to steal a pokemon.

[@Jay7707]

@AmorMagico666 no

[@normanmerrick9493]

@AmorMagico666 Tbh I kinda preferred Wally over anyone else. Yes, I consider Wally more of a rival than Brandon/May.

[@Valstrax420]

Well he is Giovanni's son after all.

[@DarknessAmongUs]

Silver had such a good character arc imo. one of the best ways of handling a rival

[@luffytard7512]

Most rivals at least dislike you like gladion, blue just saw red as a loser he had to beat in order to win

[@LabMatt]

The main problem with die-hard fans is that an alarming number of them don't want better Pokémon games, just *more* Pokémon games. This game could literally delete random data off your Switch and they would still love it and ask when the next is coming out.

[@mattlol163]

.....or that most the ppl are ACTUAL kids...... Not hard to understand.

[@midnari]

... Co-OP Auto-Battle Free Roam Pokemon Riding Pokemon following PC Box in menu Relearn Moves on the fly Swimming, gliding, probably more (haven't gotten that far) Multiple stories and missions. "The Problem with Internet bandwagons is that, no matter what the game is like, they'll repeat the same lines because they don't have a clue what they're talking about." Clearly you're one of the sheep.

[@bakedbeef7814]

if only the kids were defending the game it would be understandable... but I actually saw several bearded grown ups defending this mess

[@keeysOST]

@@mattlol163 I'd place my bets on that Pokemon fans are mostly adults right now.

[@yasha2522]

@@midnari More features doesn’t equal a better well polished game. “Quality over Quantity” is a saying for a reason lol. “Clearly you are a sheep.”

[@accuratememin]

"So she chooses the type weakness?" Ever since, I believe at least Gen 6, the rivals have always been picking type weaknesses. It's awful.

[@obambagaming1467]

Maybe gamefreak thinks that every player is a toddler or something. If they really want to make the game easy, they atleast should add an increased difficulty mode (like in Black 2 but you can activate it from the start).

[@fuffmydog]

Does it really matter tho? Think about it after the first gym you probably have a counter and in the latest games the bosses get the one strong against you

[@Syiepherze]

I feel like here you could argue Nemona's deliberately handicapping herself by doing this since she's an experienced battler, but I agree it's a really odd trend

[@peterswanson5383]

@Sparksterlot Also the insane amount of tutorials and hand holding now. I can't believe they still haven't Incorporated a "have you played pokemon before" setting to skip past all of them. At least have a difficulty setting so there's some amount of challenge. I've only played Colosseum/XD on Gamecube and FireRed/ Emerald on GBA, but at least with those you had to actually figure out type advantages and mechanics yourself. Also Colosseum is the peak imo. You have very limited options so it forces you to use pokemon you would never even consider otherwise, and the snagging system means you have to think carefully about your next move to prevent accidentally fainting the Pokemon you're trying to catch. Plus the game's actually pretty difficult since there's no wild encounters to grind off of and the bosses use actual legitimate strategies against you.

[@chinchbug6934]

@Sparksterlot They actually started doing that one from Sun n Moon

[@metalkiddoc7342]

Charlie is just upset he wasn’t in the game more. Give the Critikal trainer more screen time for Pete’s sake Gamefreak!

[@yrdunclesans1648]

He has 3 different characters in the game

[@Hotshot2k4]

I have a theory on why the games never really get any thing new except more pokemon and the occasional little mechanic: if they actually tried and made a much better game, they're afraid people would be expecting them to try just as hard for future games, and expecting them to keep innovating on the formula and they're not confident that there's enough creative people left working for Gamefreak to pull it off. They're hugely profitable just doing the same thing over and over as-is. It's basically an annualized release like FIFA or NBA, even if it's maybe not necessarily annual.

[@saga8659]

Bullshit theory

[@naganut9718]

Don't blame GF for this, blame the Pokemon Company

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@naganut9718 Nah, Game Freak are just as guilty as the TPC just like how Mojang is just as equally responsible as Microsoft during the whole Minecraft reporting fiasco

[@maJastoL]

I think it's because this series just relies on nostalgia. They've been making a new iteration of the same game for years. People wouldn't like it if it changed too much. I already know people that say "this isn't pokemon!" because you can move in more than 4 directions now.

[@scarletlego2550]

maybe, but its more likely they dont inovate because it still sells. this pile of shit of a game will probably easily sell 20 million copies. it sells like crazy every year because people will buy it regardless

[@OrsusGaming]

Me and my friends all had a collective "oh, all the budget went into this one raid catch animation"

[@ethe2nd662]

Something I have noticed is that game freak seems to be better at animations of still camera shots and or attacks with camera cuts. But by making things with a open camera they don’t play to their strengths

[@BreezeOfDusk]

@@ethe2nd662 that's a good point

[@kamatari1220]

They split the budget between that shot and all the human's animations. They are very well animated!

[@cameronbartlett856]

And the end game cutscenes. For some reason the ending cut scenes ran very smooth and there was a lot of stuff going on in those scenes, so much so that one has to wonder if they just did all that first then ran out of money for the rest of the game.

[@masonm8351]

What I like about Nemona is that she constantly insinuates throughout the entire game that she could just beat the ever loving life out of you if she felt like it, and to cap it off everyone around you seems to agree that Nemona could molly whop you on a whim. I like the idea that the game’s baby mode is just Nemona going easy.

[@kristophesiem5336]

She does have the title of champion, she's just replaying the game in the most literal sense

[@gearguts7259]

i find it even more boring, why would she go easy on you like that? why are they so fucking afraid of giving people a challenge? "Super trust me dude shes extremely strong NO NO FOR REAL SHE IS SUPER CAPABLE OF KICKING YOUR ASS J-JUST UHHH SHE DOESNT FEEL LIKE IT"

[@KittyKatherine0069]

@@gearguts7259 isn't the entire point of the story that the player is BRAND NEW to battling? You don't learn anything by getting curbstomped. Nemona's using all new Pokemon she's raising alongside you, she's not just "holding back".

[@kristophesiem5336]

@@gearguts7259 maybe it's the fact that most of the people who complain about game difficulty are people who've been playing for over a decade? The story mode of a rated E game shouldn't be Kaizo Emerald difficulty just cause some 20 year olds want to feel like the first time Cynthia, May or Red cleaned their asses because they didn't know the type chart or didn't know all pokemon in existance Tho I wouldn't complain about a hard mode like B2W2 had, so at least we could choose

[@rahulshuvin5332]

@@kristophesiem5336 legit a difficulty setting is all that is needed and these incompetent devs can't even do that smh

[@jinasthrowawayacc8486]

If Charlie plays more, then I highly recommend he try out picnics and make one of the more ingredient dense sandwiches. The ingredients almost always clip through each other or the bread. The animation that plays when you eat is also pretty goofy. Interested to see his reaction.

[@landonknauss5953]

It doesn’t help when you press A in the eating cutscene your character model stops moving. Like completely. Facial expressions and body parts stop moving. You can just be stuck with one eye open

[@jackiedan2450]

First time I watched my player eat a sandwich, I thought he was throwing up. Actually, I'm still not sure if that's what he's doing each time. It's not very encouraging.

[@Jay9966]

I think not getting voiceovers is getting lame now, especially when they want to do facial expressions and moving mouths. It was fine in the top down versions but I think we need to get some voices going in the next gen or two...

[@proxyprone]

@J'zargo meh, just throw in audio sliders & let people turn it off if they want

[@landonfosterr]

@J'zargo honestly i feel those are way different pokémon has so much dialogue like for me like i don’t think the first parts of the game would be as bad if i didn’t have to stop and read so much

[@kingklaus1524]

Voice acting in Pokémon games would either be really selective with it being in cutscenes only and making the times it doesn’t come up a little weird or a giant task that is completely unreasonable to ask of anyone having like double dark souls item description in dialogue needing to be read over and voice acted by either a huge voice acting cast or a few overworked actors. This is ignoring both times that Pokémon isn’t just in English or Japanese so either you isolate a lot of people or you, as they are, don’t include it.

[@tucomeslculo]

that dialogue is awful, you DO not want to hear that shit said out loud lmao

[@VirgilHawkinsIs]

@@kingklaus1524 gym leaders, E4, the champion, the professor, and your rival. And maybe a generic announcer for all tournament style battles or gyms. That’s not that much….

[@aeway_]

i miss the days of actually having a rival, especially one that absolutely roasts the shit out of you

[@prisoner817]

Silver was the best rival

[@maineman5757]

What they do to the rivals?

[@CS-om3kj]

They sorta kinda stopped doing the best friend rival in Black but then they changed their mind in X and Y I guess

[@jammo7370]

Eh, only RBY and GSC had dickhead rivals, starting in gen 3 they were always friendly to you, gen 5’s Cheren was kind of a dickhead to start but it didn’t last long. For the most part pokemon rivals are pretty friendly.

[@justliving3977]

Agreed, smell ya later.

[@trevoris18]

The way I describe this game is that the story (once you get through the opening) is actually the most compelling story a mainline pokemon game has ever had (not a high bar to clear). The open world let's you create your own level curve and rush to harder content if you that's what you want, which is really amazing for all the old tryhards. But it runs like it's 3 college students made it in Unity.

[@Yakobito]

Black/White had best story though

[@trevoris18]

@@Yakobito I'll take my dog is sick and I'm desperate to heal him over, over teenager is tasked with stopping a terrorist organization everytime. N literally saved the story in black and white by having enough depth for team plasma all on his own.

[@Yakobito]

@@trevoris18 b/w was deeper than than that. You’re oversimplifying it on purpose. It was a terrorist organization that was questioning the very morals of Pokemon as a whole. It was as if the Pokemon franchise was looking inward on itself and asking the tough questions. The story itself broke the 4th wall it was so deep. And when i say “deep” i mean deep for a Pokémon game. But you’re right “lol dog is sick” is way better

[@GreatLakesFeatherCo]

@@Yakobito dog is sick can make me cry. Trying to parse the "morals" of playing pokemon feels like literally nothing lol.

[@Yakobito]

@@GreatLakesFeatherCo “dog is sick” is such a cop out for a compelling story. I could literally go watch Marley & Me if i wanted to get sad about a dying dog. Or Old Yeller. Or actually any other one of hundreds of “dog is sick” movies/shows. It’s a cookie cutter, Hollywood trope of a story and it’s been told a million times.

[@alistairphantom5720]

I love how Charlie just casually passes by that he's in a Pokemon game it's like the game is so terrible he doesn't even care🤣

[@BigRheno]

There were some points in the game where it’s just awkward. The game freezes in cutscenes for an awkward chunk of time with zero music/sound, that just makes it uncomfortable sometimes.

[@messmaker7343]

It's so funny to me that they animated the characters speaking but they don't make any sounds. Like they just gave up halfway through

[@akiraotoishi5756]

Dude have u not played pokemon. They never do voice acting

[@messmaker7343]

@@akiraotoishi5756 yea but it hits different when it's a fully rendered character instead of an 8-bit animation imo.

[@deeznuts4216]

I know it's part of the franchise but they definitely should do voice acting

[@tarruvi]

Not sure if it’s been cleared up since the stream, but female and male Ralts can evolve into Gardevoir. However, they may have gotten this confused with the other final evolution of Ralts, Gallade(which evolves from male Kirlia when you use a Dawn Stone on it).

[@Brass319]

Ok I was hoping at least one person noticed that lol.

[@itsme558]

Im actually playing pokemon ruby right now and wanted a gardevoir but i got scared bcuz its male but remembered it will only become a gallade if u use a dawnstone on him and i also didnt know hes from gen4

[@hunterlg13]

The male gardevoir isn't as useful ;) Yucky lelz.

[@jamessunderland5917]

@@hunterlg13 see yourself out

[@hunterlg13]

@@jamessunderland5917 I was just saying what I think other people were thinking. I'm not into that sort of thing these days. Vanilla waifu's for me thank you.

[@TheUltimateRey]

I feel like the graphics would’ve worked better with a different art style but the way most things look now is just not what I would imagine 3D Pokémon to look like

[@phantomfoxkyo7104]

In the classroom scene where everyone's legs are moving at turtleshit fps, look at the rival girl up front. Her animation is still fluid. I feel like it isn't lagging here, but they cut the animations down on purpose.

[@IrisRiedel6]

true!

[@kickitsmooth]

Thats true but the fact that they had to cut the fps on such few models, close to the camera, and in a small space is terrible optimization.

[@RealestxRCyt]

What’s even worse is once your character gets introduced and sits down those classmates animate normally. Meaning that there’s like a render bubble around the Main Character

[@LeaderSky1]

that entire scene was fluid for me idk only time my fps dropped was when i was in the lake

[@jdhenry1610]

I miss our rivals being absolute assholes. It really felt good when you beat them. As much as I like Scarlet and Violet, Nemona just reminds me of Hop too much, and it just makes me groan anytime she comes in. Like come on, why can’t they just have at least one asshole trainer you fight repeatedly.

[@Akashi-ml9dn]

Does that count as Stockholm syndrome

[@kerp0864]

Tbh! It’s why I appreciate that Arven is kind of cold to us at first. It’s small and could have been better but him actually becoming our friend and opening up feels a lot more genuine

[@STIZZLE1]

And when you lost they would say stuff like I knew I would win. It really makes seem life like unlike now where every npc is just a worm emotionally but a human physically

[@eragons1894]

True, i also don't like how in newer pokemon titles, basically every person is over the top kind and sweet to us. Arven and Bede were decent rivals when it comes to their personality but god, i miss Blue and Silver.

[@Emil-sh6sq]

Why do you like scarlet and violet? That is an actual question btw, i just can’t wrap my head around how anyone would accept this game. I absolutely love pokemon but i feel like a lot of the fanbase is just mindlessly defending the new games.

[@Dobbie.]

Man , this alpha looks good! Can't wait to see the full game!

[@powderedtoastman1858]

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[@vusgamer]

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[@JustaDislikeButton]

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[@spoons_only]

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[@TheLocalAngryKid]

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[@wer0t]

if there was a game award for making you depressed, this game would take it

[@Ballinbutatwhatcost420]

I preferred the days when your rival would choose your type weakness as it would make you think

[@themilkmansrevenge5051]

It would force you to be better yea

[@dannyfenton9529]

It never really made a difference. You don’t have anything other then normal type attacking moves so it was up to the rng of the rival whether you won or not and after that you’d have access to Pokémon who are good against the rivals.

[@merxh00z]

Yea iirc they only gave starters their elemental move at level 5 the same gen where they decided your main rival would choose the starter weak to yours. I miss black and white where you had 2 different rivals to take the two starters you didn’t choose.

[@darknesswave100]

Does it really matter though? By the time you battle them the 2nd or even 3rd time you have a type that's strong against them anyways. If you took Quaxly and they took Sprigatito then you'd have a fire or flying type before you even see them again. It literally makes no difference

[@worthlesshuman5041]

@@darknesswave100 It's a two factor thing. The first is characterization: even if the selection didn't actually matter, the fact that your rival is picking the type that beats yours shows that they want to win, y'know, like a rival would. Secondly, it punishes you for just using your starter to blow through the game (like how in gen 3 if not for the rival's starter, mudkip would be basically unstoppable)

[@Grapefruit5000]

This game makes you appreciate pokemon frame by frame

[@Rikoyasha15]

It's crazy the series is THE biggest media franchise and puts this little effort into there games, rush it out, small/inexperienced staff for its size(or it could just be the strict deadline not giving them the time)

[@theARDISAN]

Thats the thing, why should the biggest media franchise put effort? People are still buying it, lmao. I think they are playing it extremely smart. They rush a product pokemon fans will hate or have dick riders defending it in every way, and they will just purchase the game regardless.

[@noodleman4555]

It's honestly probably a big combination of all the above.

[@Pumbear]

What's crazy is that people still buy it

[@czyu3361]

At this point I just treat these new mainline games as "a tool to introduce new gen of Pokemon" instead of an actual game. You know damn well they're going to milk it for merch and for this new region of anime. Ain't the profit from their merch outperforms the sales of the games

[@retorikhal]

its absolutely the deadlines, they have to make a big pokemon product a year at least

[@teddy-beargamer6385]

The sad part is, the gameplay is fun, and the story is a lot better than I expected. The graphical glitches, however, are fucking atrocious. The environments are trash, even if the Pokemon models are better than they were.

[@beastsatan666]

I hope Charlie finds the secret version of himself they put in this game

[@Spubbily01]

9:23

[@laptopmonkey4157]

@@Spubbily01 there is one at the ghost gym who looks identical to Charlie.

[@kettern4719]

I love the one named Chad

[@Danny328DT]

Charlie wants to battle! Trainer Charlie: Watch and learn kiddos!

[@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399]

Thanks satan