Pokemon VGC 2015 NE Regionals - Wolfe G. vs Ashton C. - Grand Finals

[@emmaramirez4330]

Really interesting seeing the similarities in the team he made back in 2015 vs 2023 Regionals and how his play style hasn't really changed.

[@Ponkachu1]

and 8 years later we will watch the same battle with the same protagonists

[@VAlvarez99]

and same result!!

[@seta_souji]

While everyone complains about Perish Trap and hacked mons, I'm just gonna sit here and admire Ashton's Burger King crown.

[@bruceeugene7500]

pro tip: watch movies at flixzone. Been using them for watching lots of of movies during the lockdown.

[@mathiascase8747]

@Bruce Eugene definitely, I have been using Flixzone} for months myself =)

[@LucidEyes17]

that triple protect was crazy but goth also avoided three rock slides in a row

[@scezaira491]

The rock slides did not matter nearly as much

[@xKamko]

And also what are the odds of using protect 3 times in a row and avoiding 3 rock slides :P I think the difference is significant.

[@megolito961]

ive been liking ashton more and more everytime i see him play. wolf is my favortie player but astons sportsmanship is on another level than most player. Goodluck in 2016 fellas!

[@AdmiralBobbery123]

Boy, you are slow

[@megolito961]

@@AdmiralBobbery123 the video is in 2015 so why would we not wish them luck for next year?

[@pikamain9689]

U commented in 2019 dumbass

[@morgarizzle]

I've always loved Aaron's commentary, but poor his partner. Next to Aaron's in-depth analysis in middle of the battle, the guy kinda seems sub-par.

[@eonrokcet]

+Ngô Linh I agree, although Mike is not good in commentary, he has exceptional skills and had lots of researcch that help the VGC community a lot in general. And didn't expect to meet a "đồng hương" in a Pokemon video, especially VGC...

[@morgarizzle]

+L Monnie Oh? I was informed we do have quite a community of VGC players. Was I wrong? I'm not as much of a VGC player, I just enjoy watching in general. Some players, Wolfe for example, has very creative and interesting play style that it's difficult not to root for him.

[@eonrokcet]

I play VGC, mostly via Battle Spot. VGC is so fun to watch and play, unlike single. So what's your favorite player to watch besides Cybertron?

[@morgarizzle]

+L Monnie Well, single is a lot more prone to defensive tactics and stalling, which sometimes can require a lot of patience even just to watch. Anyway, Sejun Park, of course. Watching him (and Pachirisu!) in last year's VGC Final is the reason I started liking competitive battling in the first place. Wolfe Glick, I'm also a big fan of. I also watch Alex from time to time. How about you?

[@excaliboor9030]

wow. a battle that isn't just primal Groudon and mega kangaskhan

[@nudelsuppe2090]

because groudon isnt allowed...

[@jacksonpaulson9924]

this was VGC15 and mega kang was around in 15 you edgy teen

[@hwlhellbent7850]

Jackson Paulson ?

[@cheesepiecy8569]

I love watching VGC battles but sadly the comment section is always full of hate. Honestly, to me this was a great battle with interesting strategies, and I enjoyed watching it, no matter the mons used or the format.

[@deleted_user00]

history really does repeat itself

[@mike_oxhurt154]

All shines and only one egg hatched. Seems legit -___-

[@ihsansatrio7013]

actually for feebas can be obtain by fishing in front of rocks and kill all the feebas as you can, and make a fishing streak 40 (?) idunno but anyway try find "how to get shiny easy methods" it really help

[@Arvizu1010]

You can put all of your pokes on PokeBank and restart your game and bring them back after...so...yeah, That's a 50-50 thing (hacked/generated/spawned being the other 50)

[@0210-f8i]

Clearly hacked.

[@ericsonjones4064]

Someone else could breed the venesaur and milotic. The rotor can be sr in xy and pokebanked up to oras. The legendarys can all be hunted in mirage spots.

[@jacurururur8848]

Other people do it for him

[@AareyanManzoor]

amazing repeating of history

[@Oldglen]

Still the best perish trap game I’ve ever watched 💙

[@glennnidoy5581]

I like this one because they don't depend on one hits by the legendary pokemon. it's more competitive and enjoyable to watch. :)

[@mr.witter4543]

Better nerf Greninja...

[@butteredsalmonella]

and nerf Greninja they did.

[@tr1gger_happy322]

Isn't it a bit obvious or suspicious that they have 5/6iv flawless shiny legends? Cmon, that has to ring a bell.

[@Shadow-bi5ns]

Obviously. You can bring hacked mons as long as they have legal sets and all. And you don't announce to the world they're hacked.

[@j-productions2782]

Sarah Chen Are you sure?

[@Shadow-bi5ns]

J-Productions Well, it's either not a perfect competitive legendary, and apparently, yes, you can use legal hacked Pokemon.

[@carlopayeur7401]

Wolfe G. was just really great.

[@Ketchupplant]

+Celeroy Beeter You don't play VGC do you? Wolfe played these battles almost perfectly.

[@Ketchupplant]

+Celeroy Beeter I asume you're one of the idiots Verlis sent

[@MikeScoDra149]

M-Gengar / Perish Song / No sleep clause... Logical that this player won...

[@DanielMartinez-yp4wo]

Am I the only one here tired of only seeing in vgc: spore spam amoongus perish trap gengar mega kang rotom

[@kakipoopoodadisrespectful112]

+Thiagox wait guys you forgot thundurus as well :P

[@skinnyjeans1622]

+Daniel Martinez Garchomp anyone?

[@Small_Hat_Crew]

I like how rotom's name alone was enough

[@8Bhatti]

Mega-Salamence

[@pre-jordanbasketballfan7429]

It's is MUCH worse in 2016

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

inb4 still faster than brawl

[@ilikeskating11]

Franz Ferdinand ahahah

[@Guy10169]

You're such a loser.

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

Yo mama Was that an insult?

[@Guy10169]

No, it's a fact. Why, did I hurt your feeling?

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

Yo mama Nah. You have to try harder than that.

[@j0seph738]

how we are doomed to repeat ourselves

[@cgschmitz2361]

That moment when people are bitchin about how broken mega Gengar is XD

[@HeckenschutzeMoH]

I don't think mega-Gengar is broken (I use it a lot for its Shadow Tag ability), it's just that Perish Trap strategy is annoying and not fun to play against ~

[@cgschmitz2361]

+Darth Cuttle VGC ik anyone who plays vgc knows that MGengar is only decent at best

[@j0hnnyw987]

it shouldnt be allowed. it doesnt take any strategy

[@BestFriendsForeverMaybe]

19:06 “😐” Wolfes reaction to that third successful protect in a row lol

[@Weezing818]

I... never knew competitive pokemon battleling existed. Awsome.

[@DarkLeviathan8]

Weezing818 Pokemon is SO much more deep that what it looks like.

[@DarkLeviathan8]

how long does one have to grind for getting a shiny Terrakion with stats good enough to be played in competitive omfg.. or am I just missing something ?

[@teringmongool123]

DarkLeviathan8 Probably genned, like all shiny legendary Pokémon with perfect IV's.

[@vikzxt]

DarkLeviathan8 The chances of getting a competitive shiny legendariy by Soft reseting is like 1 in 6 million aprox. Not making numbers up here... you have a better chance at winning the lottery.

[@DarkLeviathan8]

v zxt yeah i'm aware of that, which is why im questioning. but as the other guy mentionned they are certainly genned. i just didnt knew genned pokémon were allowed in tournaments

[@johnnybegood9290]

Ølav Turkje you're not allowed to gen to my memory I believe there was a way in black and white to get perfect shiny pokemon without genning but idk about this gen

[@Fieryvortex48]

Ølav Turkje Or he got it off showdown wi-fi and genuinely doesn't know it's hacked.

[@HonestTehWold]

that guy's name is ASHton. lol anyone else notice that? its like he was MEANT to ply pokemon xD

[@dylancollins8886]

Lame

[@FIRSTWORD98]

no just no

[@MIDNightPT4]

Wolfe is a fucking monster dude

[@Zombarakh]

Mega charizard Y would have been so clutch for Ashton.

[@KendonChase]

Hate seeing hacked pokemon at VGC.

[@mike_oxhurt154]

Me2

[@AndyHG]

+Kendon Chase you keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

[@KendonChase]

HorrorGuitar Generated. Hacked. Spawned. Illegally obtained through means not intended by the creators of the game.

[@AndyHG]

do you have proof though?

[@SkywardKkalox]

+Kendon Chase Contrary to popular belief, powersaves is NOT generating new pokemon, they were NOT hacked into the game aswell, NEITHER were they spawned, they were just editted. Someone could just catch a pokemon normally and then edit it in powersaves, that means the pokemon was NOT generated but editted.

[@wowwt]

People complaining about hacking but honestly I would rather see everyone have the same IVs ect instead of oh this guy got better luck and won due to 2 damage difference ect. Game is already heavy RNG so why add more to it?

[@medzawesomeness69430]

Shiny Terrakion? Is that legit? Can someone confirm?

[@tuvillo]

It can be. It's not.

[@drj7124]

OmegaDonut VS CT Cybertron Hands down Cybertron. With more practice OD could become more natural sounding.

[@GANDROID100]

xD 1 egg hatched, yet full team shiny

[@MusicalWayz]

You know there is a thing called finding the Pokemon in grass. And for legends you Soft Reset...

[@6thEement]

not 6iv shinies, finding a perfect nature 6iv shiny with the right egg move and hidden ability/ ability is not likely :P

[@raymonders001]

Or he breeded in XY and transferred them to ORAS to participate in the tournament?

[@sayyestotheness3977]

it's called hacking...

[@xxzoruaxv]

sayyestotheness Or dedication. Some people are more dedicated than others to the game. I highly doubt they got a good nature for a few of them.

[@paco7669]

Reading the comments and I'm like...WTF are shiny pokemons, and IV's?

[@CoBeX31]

How did you even get here then?

[@paco7669]

I started playing Pokemon Emerald and enjoyed it. Wanted to see the top players

[@TheDonaldduck911]

Well just in case u still don't know, shiny pokemons are just EXTREMELY rare pokemons of different color variations. Since it's really common in the pokemon meta to use hacks, you often see shiny pokemons in professional play. IVs are bonus increases in your pokemons' stats. Every pokemon since the moment they're born or caught come with a fixed set of IVs that range from 0-31. So for example you may catch a Pikachu in the wild, and you wanna check its IVs so you go online and use an IVs calculator, you type in your Pikachu's stats and the calculator tells you how many IVs (from 0 to 31) your Pikachu has in each stat (speed, hp, attack, special attack, etc). So if your Pikachu has 25 IVs on its speed stat that means your Pikachu simply came with an increase of 25 points to its speed stat. It may not seem like much but at high levels these little increases make the difference. In competitive play it's pretty much a standard to have perfect IVs (31 IVs on all stats), but again, hacks are the law in professional play. In previous generations getting perfect IVs in a legitimate way was pretty much impossible since IVs were determined randomly and you could only pass them down through breeding. That means you would have to catch or breed dozens, sometimes hundreds of pokemon till you come across a perfect IVs on ONE STAT. After that it's do it all again till you get your perfect IVs on all 6 stats. It could take you a full year of non-stop breeding. FORTUNATELY in the current generation (6), we have friend safaris, which guarantee that each pokemon will have perfect IVs on 2 stats. This means that in a friend safari you could catch lets say 10 Pikachus, and you'd have a pretty good chance you have a pool of perfect IVs in there. Just chain breed to pass them down and you got yourself a Pikachu with perfect IVs in like an afternoon of gameplay, ready to beat some ass online.

[@ninjya_bakon]

1: A shiny Pokémon is a pallet swap of a Pokémon. They are super super super rare 2: IVs are Individual values. Weird stuff 3:It's Pokémon. "Pokémons" is not a word

[@paco7669]

Gerardo Montalvo Thank you, that was very informative. Sucks that cheats are used in competitive play. Seems to me it's like using PED in competitive sports, a shortcut instead of putting in the work.

[@Charliezard7]

and he did it again

[@MewTubeHK]

*Before the match* me: Goddamit another Landorus *Once the match starts* me: OHH DAMN BABY ITS SHINY

[@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785]

...and hacked.

[@triattackambipom1961]

Mr. Oshawott And has legal stats and movesets

[@quocthongnguyen5977]

@@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785 give no advantage at all so why bother

[@Fitzness1]

@@quocthongnguyen5977 bc they have nothing better to complain about

[@xNoviceX]

I don't get why they say "Free" switch in when a Pokemon faints. It's not free. You just lost a Pokemon.

[@Shadow-bi5ns]

It means you can bring in a frail Pokemon and it won't take any damage. That's what they mean. If you have something useless to sack, you can bring your win condition in unscathed, and that could be a great reward for losing your low health dead weight.

[@yeto30003]

Novice Novice It means, free of damage switch in

[@vanillatwilight6563]

Here from best megas video.

[@GoldenEmpoleon]

linkyoshimario complaining about the Rock Slide misses when it didn't matter because he had a hooooorrible team matchup and he didn't do the optimal play on Turn1 Game1.

[@Guticion]

Asthon Cox face:totally devastated xD

[@emantv6343]

Bruh, if you find Gengar a threat, you should have double teamed it or you ends up losing like that.

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

Vinson Games Is not that simple. One protect form Gengar and it's a whole turn wasted...you have to make the right plays...And rage powder it's a thing...

[@emantv6343]

Franz Ferdinand I meant use it after the protect and to be honest, it's better to have a whole turn wasted since ammongus would only attack one poke with spore. ..................

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

After the protect, you can switch or rage powder. He even disable Ashton's Landorus once, and it's was useless after that. He needed some pokemans with taunt, or something. And the spore thing you mention, is huge. One sleep pokemon it's sometimes worse than a "dead" one.

[@emantv6343]

Franz Ferdinand That's not what I meant. He has to make Gengar is primary target so he has to do ALOT of prediction. For him to have a pokemon that is choiced, he need to immediately switch because of M Gengar ability. He did not which was his mistake.

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

Of course, but he wanted the kill so...bad play on his part. The worst thing was that disable. He got rekt.

[@corncob7299]

ashton is a cool guy

[@FratNightGaming]

smh mega gengar allowed in tourney play...

[@mohamedadel7111]

FratNightGaming in doubles he is

[@DarkFox2071]

This isn't smogon. Lol

[@FratNightGaming]

***** based on the comments I've been reading, you're part of reason why the Pokemon community can be toxic... Mega Gengar is, in a nutshell, incredibly OP. His OP'ness is amplified in a 4v4 DOUBLES setting, where he can trap 2 at once. Not just 2 at once, but 50% of the opponent's pokemon. If the opponent opens with two pokemon that cant counter gengar well, the opponent is screwed, especially considering the prevalence of protect/perish song stall often accompanied by the second active pokemon. It's an EXTREMELY unfair tactic that is made more unfair by the nature of a 3V3 doubles battle. If you have a different opinion, state it, and provide some reason/logic behind your assertions. With your attitude, no one gains anything...

[@FratNightGaming]

***** I'll just address the meat of your comment; not the vitriol aimed at myself and the community. One, I'm not arguing that shadow tag be banned due to it being "a scarce ability." Rather, a Mega Gengar, a pokemon with extremely HIGH speed and special attack, along with shadow tag, makes for a huge threat that as you say, can be mitigated by Volt Switch cores or prankster taunters. The problem is that while volt switch does solve this issue, as does prankster, they are not common moves/abilities. But when they exist in good numbers solely to counter ONE pokemon, like MEGA GENGAR in this case, there needs to be a recalibration of what is and isnt legal in competitive play. If one pokemon can provoke the implementation of specific moves/abilities, so much so as to fashion a "core" of counters for this one 'mon, it says to me that a change is necessary. Lastly, when you say "the style is weak to hyper offence," I'd have to refute that as well. Given that most hyper offensive pokemon are lacking in the def, sp def, and hp department, (a combination of inherently being an offensive pokemon as well as the corresponding EV investments to accentuate a Pokemon's offensive ability/defensive inability) Mega Gengar can often take those Pokemon out in one shot because Mega Gengar is most likely FASTER and STRONGER than those offensive threats. Just my opinion anyway. But the main takeaway for me is this : If a specific pokemon spawns a group of counters that are heavily incorporated into the metagame so as to limit that one pokemon's effectiveness, then that pokemon is OP. With that admittedly subjective but somewhat defined rule in mind, ( I can elaborate on MY framework for what constitutes "OP", but for the sake of brevity, I wont here) my logic would lead me to believe that this pokemon is OP, and should not be allowed in OU matches.

[@Fieryvortex48]

FratNightGaming You forgot one thing. Mega Gengar isn't really op. Wolfe is. I don't see any other Mega Gengar winning a regional (all I see is Mega kangaskhan) so why should they ban Mega Gengar? Are you forgetting that Wolfe is the same guy who made normalize + shadow tag work on a nuggetbridge online tournament? This guy is a fucking monster.

[@Zombarakh]

Who would win? Alex Agloza or Wolfe?

[@miriamsousaufma]

*wd ln

[@22Moody]

Zombarakh I think Wolfe is a better player.

[@kidlatdakila2]

Zombarakh A lot of Thundurus sets have taunt now though. Even if Gengar protects, it cannot disable Thundurus' taunt because of prankster.

[@Zombarakh]

But his amoongus redirects the move, orrr he could switch into a pokemon that threatens Thudurus and it's ally? Taunt is not an amazing counter imo.

[@22Moody]

Zombarakh And here is where it's important to predict. Wolfe's opponent can also make prediction just like he does them.

[@Davey647Returns]

Winning by Perish Song is such a cluster fuck of a win. That's not really worthy of a title in my book.

[@Shadow-bi5ns]

It's a lot harder to successfully pull off a Perish Trap win than Wolfe makes it look like.

[@Davey647Returns]

Shadow Why Do We Need A Last Name It's not though. In doubles, If you take out two of your opponents pokemon and you have more than two left for a single turn, you're golden. You just need to survive for not immediately lose in three turns

[@Shadow-bi5ns]

But it's not as easy as you make it sound like. Defensive styles like this are difficult in doubles because you have to play precisely the right move every single time or your trapper is knocked out by a double target and your whole strategy falls apart. Your average doubles player (playing VGC format) cannot pull off a defensive team against someone who can hold their own.

[@jacksonpaulson9924]

It is a lot harder, especially back in that meta when thunderous was super popular having taunt

[@sitheriffguy7513]

sorry but perish trap isn't winning its just not losing its both witless and cheap

[@Neufuki]

+simon mather Taunt, think about it

[@sitheriffguy7513]

lethalblizzard The existence of taunt does not add value or credibility to this way of winning.It doesn't change the fact its cheap, cowardly and infuriating It doesn't change the fact its no fun to watch or play against. Taunt is a counter that is all..

[@GSBroker]

+simon mather it's a legit strategy and does take a lot of skill to make it work.

[@nudelsuppe2090]

perish trap is damn difficult to use for high level games

[@TheGunFreak94]

why didn't the other dude switch out the pokemon afflicted with perish song, the 1st set.

[@mohamedadel7111]

TheGunFreak94 because of mega gengar's ability

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

TheGunFreak94 M-Gengar has "Shadow Tag", an ability that forces the opponent to stay in battle.

[@TheGunFreak94]

Oh damn didn't know that. Thanks for replying

[@FrnzFrdnnd]

TheGunFreak94 ;D

[@megalania6249]

Defiant Bisharp would have wrecked though

[@skylarfox_bmb]

Wolfe is a fucking savage.

[@SoggyWafflesXp]

Isn't this a smash tournament channel?

[@ashoknagulan398]

Wolfey you are so talented

[@jackotsc7173]

I hate Spore spammers. I would actually prefer it if Sleep Clause were in effect in the VGC ruleset. That's just my opinion, though.

[@jackotsc7173]

Vastt Soundy I'm used to Smogon, so the VGC rules are foreign to me, but I'm preparing a team for the VGC rules.

[@GSBroker]

+Jacob Jarboe It's not as cheap as it sounds. Most skilled VGC players have answers to it (lum berry, taunt, safety goggles etc).

[@jamesgarza95]

why did landorus struggle after only one Disable? don't judge me for asking :/ I barely play pokémon anymore

[@WalditoElHuasito]

james garza It probably had a choice item, which only let you use one attack, so if that attack gets disabled...you can only struggle.

[@Arvizu1010]

On ranking battles I got Encored and Disabled so my Pokemon was only using Struggle

[@narutouzumakijoshua]

They really need to have competitive singles at VGC. I'm tired of having pokemon showdown, with their shitty smogon rules, as the only reliable place to play competitive 6v6 singles.

[@TheEpicSean]

Lol

[@DarkFox2071]

Singles isn't balanced and will never be balanced

[@stefanhuber8260]

3v3 is the biggest bullshit you can play. Most of the matches get decided with the opening. It is completely boring because you only play hyperoffensive and there are no other tactics than that.

[@stefanhuber8260]

+Adaranoy You are talking so much nonsense. When you play 3v3 with two tanks you loose too much momentum. And how could you just say that I am a scrub? I was Top 20 in Smogon UU and NU Ladder. 3v3 is just about the matchup and boring as fuck.

[@Fieryvortex48]

narutouzumakijoshua Smogon's rules actually make sense. Spamming spore/sleep powder in singles is stupid, you can have multiple items, and tiers are what help make Pokemon relevant. If everything was allowed, you would not see NU Pokemon like Dewgong when you could be using Suicune.

[@Saddler46]

Crazy Match !

[@dylanandrade62]

Ok, have your mega gengar. But can´t we at least have sleep clause???

[@usoppfangirl8153]

Ash-ton's name should be ASH-mon or Ash-eon, or even Ash-tron.

[@FIRSTWORD98]

that's his real name.

[@dylanhill4428]

Double Protect isn't 1/3 chance though

[@hayden963]

It's 1/2 I think

[@mekkerzegtdekoe7650]

This guy is playing in the final with what seems like 4 hacked pokemon. Why is this allowed. He is a good player otherwise he wouldnt be in the final. Hacking pokemon is sad in general but for a tournement. Its even worst that the pokemon company doesnt do anything to stop it. They should just ban this guy for hacking :/

[@CapricornGenesis]

+mekker zegtdekoe There are no illegal moves or stats on those Pokemon, so it isn't an issue. Getting perfect legendaries is also extremely monotonous and generally not worth the (indefinite) time.

[@0210-f8i]

In personally think they should either a)give all one-time Pokemon perfect IVS or b) make all mons, including legendaries, breedable, but put some restrictions (Groudon and Kyogre breeding, for example)

[@cloroxbleach5066]

How do you think be would get his team idiot by powersave so its not cheating at all

[@TheDunsparceGames]

the only shiny i use is hengar because shiny mega gengar looks cool as fuck my guys

[@giozapata]

100% real totally not hacked pokemon

[@eknaekner7940]

when did they re design gengar

[@farmerwithshotgun5166]

Ekna Ekner Never. That was a new form for Gengar.

[@anthermarg55]

he got a 3 protects in a row and waste the next turn on a double rock slide if you are that lucky don't missplay like that

[@chomskyhonks]

he was scarfed you dingus

[@usoppfangirl8153]

Why do I think every time they say "Perish-Song," I hear "Parisol?"

[@finnshuman]

huy look at me with my 4 shinies and no skill

[@thelonewolf191]

No doubt they were hacked

[@FIRSTWORD98]

+thelonewolf191 no way a hacked pokemon gets into a tournament, dumbfuck.

[@CybermageVal]

dude getting into the finals is no easy task go try it yourself you'll get rekt before you even realize it :)

[@megalania6249]

Wolfe is an absolutely amazing VGC player but I can't stand watching his play style.

[@annaketchup9409]

How did he get shiny rotom if he hatched one egg?!?! Then again, once, when the stars were aligned, a guy hatched a shiny drifloon with one egg AND I WILL NOT BELIEVE HE ENCOUNTERED IT THAT NEVER HAPOENS

[@banettorollypolly5602]

Bred on a different cartridge, is the comments section of this particular video where all the idiots come to congregate for some reason? Even if they have cheated, it makes 0 difference to the outcome as the Pokemon will still have the same moves and stats.

[@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785]

+Banetto Rolly Polly Nice to know that you support cheating.

[@listener709]

Mr. Oshawott Or he doesnt care

[@Reviewmonkey5]

@@banettorollypolly5602 I know this is late but it's good to see someone with common sense like you. Being shiny does not affect the outcome of games.

[@quocthongnguyen5977]

@@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785 which gave no f--ing advantage at all so who bother at all, sore loser try hard but never better ??

[@cactus_judy3929]

I LOVE YOU AARON

[@thelegendofthedusk2511]

double spore is ILLEGAL WolfeyThere is a rule book to VGC

[@Small_Hat_Crew]

I thought you could double spore as long as you didn't put 2 different Pokemon 2 sleep at the same time that way you aren't violating sleep clause?

[@MusicalWayz]

+TechnoNecro no you can double spore, your thinking of smogon rules

[@nudelsuppe2090]

you can spore As much as you want

[@banettorollypolly5602]

Lol sleep clause is Smogon, nothing to do with official Pokemon.

[@TheDunsparceGames]

i know this is from a long ass time ago, but did you know that sleep clause came from pokemon stadium ;D

[@bm4604]

Why is mega lucario and salemence banned in smogon I think that dicision was stupid and made no sense.

[@bm4604]

***** yes because with lucario his attack and sp attack are so high and nothing in the ou teir has a much power damaging as he does. He may have many moves but a very predictable set. He has fighting and steel move for adaptability and eath or ice for coverage . Plus protect or s dande or nasty plot. As for mance I dont use him at all but I dont have any problems with it. Espially with such obvious weaknesses. I dont play singles that much I mostly play tripples and doubles. But singles cant be that bad.

[@bm4604]

***** 145 attack is nothing in ubers. Salamence in ou could mabye take a rock slide or drsgon claw. But it cant take a moon blast an ice anything. Many special stab neutral movesm its not that powerful.

[@bm4604]

***** looking at it stats and doing damage calculation it to me isnt ubers material. It probably will do good in ou but I cant see salamance handling him self in ubers. Cause uber should be a teir and not where you dump pokemon you dont want. They need to keep those things in ou or make a borderline teir. Between the two. And dont get me started on the deoxy speed ubers ban.

[@polarknight2815]

Look at any mega salamace game, please

[@bm4604]

I did

[@f2p900]

27:25 xray camera?!!!!!!!

[@LocalBlanky]

Well that pericied song was abaransing for she

[@annaketchup9409]

I really wanna battle in the world champion chips! But am I good enough? This is my team: Wash rotom: Hydro pump Toxic Thunderbolt Shadow ball Delphox Grass knot Flame thrower, shadow ball, phycic Gardevoir Phycic shadow ball energy ball dazzling gleam Landorous Brick break phycic sandstorm earthquake Ash screw it can't remember the rest

[@mztmackey4games277]

AV link, sponsored by PkHex, action replay, and the crown on his head he has bread legit pokemon and got all 6ivs plus shiny, vote Ashton for president

[@knightarcane4920]

Stay mad.

[@matthewwilliams7011]

Is it just me or is one of the commentators pretty bad

[@Valcix92]

Why Scald inflicted damage to Rotom??

[@pauingles5810]

Valerio ASR1927 Why it shouldn't?

[@Valcix92]

pau ingles you have to view this video again, to understand my question ;)

[@pauingles5810]

Valerio ASR1927 No I don't, you can target your partner in any moment dude

[@pauingles5810]

There's a menu where you select the target and your partner is also available

[@Valcix92]

I asked why Scald targeted Rotom dude, is not difficult to understand

[@IrishDroid]

The perish song seems fine, but using double spores just seems kind of like a cheap way to win.

[@usoppfangirl8153]

My Absol is a BEAST. Ability is Super Luck and knows Sucker Punch, Dark Pulse, Perish Song, and Crunch. GETS DA CRIT EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!

[@supersto8822]

I hate full shiny teams :/ idk why just doesnt make them feel so special

[@thelonewolf191]

Those shinies where fucking hacked. I know it.

[@cloroxbleach5066]

Who cares not me at all I just want to see a battle

[@Grimm_6th]

Not like they were any stronger. As long as the stats are legal who cares if the were hacked. I've bred some Pokemon with perfect stats and I had a buddy just shinify them with powersaves. Same stats as any other Pokemon just a different color and a few sparkles when they are sent out.

[@MusicalWayz]

+TheHeroOfTimeZSS50 it takes nearly DAYS to breed perfect IV Pokemon so of corse powersave is easier.

[@Grimm_6th]

Lol no it doesn't. I've breed multiple perfect IV Pokemon in a single day before.

[@charlessmith2759]

Burger King crown boi

[@Slagomancer]

These comments, maaan.

[@dibujosdepako8856]

dormir deberia de recuperar ps

[@barcelona7064]

Perish troll rulz, dude.

[@ISTARI22]

Perish song team is like waiting for dooms day. Wtf stalling people

[@chanderule605]

Cant beat it?

[@Thehoneybadger90]

tricky...but cheap

[@abbad707]

Ashton Is a hacker

[@williamsmith8327]

I don't understand why landorus didt have any other moves

[@josh4467]

He was choices which means the Pokemon is holding either a choice scarf or choice band. It limits your choice down to one move

[@georgeorwellgaming7898]

omg i love ashtons hat ^•^

[@boboyogo485]

Aaron!!!

[@unnamed130]

They allow hacked mons at tournaments? Lol

[@ms2225]

Which was a hackmon

[@unnamed130]

They're shiny, nobody has the time to get a full team of shinies, especially legendaries.

[@ms2225]

True, but what if he had another game

[@unnamed130]

Do you know the odds of getting a shiny? Imagine getting one with PERFECT IVs. The chances are low enough to begin with, and this just adds another factor to it.

[@clouddbruhh4351]

+Lorenzo H Are you actually dumb? they have electronic scanners which detect if a Pokemon is hacked the reason the only have one egg hatched is because either the shines were through trading, or breeding in X and y as I t is sooooooo much easier.

[@akirayukki1021]

Wow..Ashton is like my friend,Just using shinies To show off...Nobody likes a bragger Ashton!

[@thinkythinkypanic882]

I think

[@TheStealthPawn]

So many hax in the 2nd game lol

[@kizuryuu_]

Triple Protect, wtfudge, cheater.

[@gijske199414]

My god, one of those commentators is so annoying.. Let the other one talk aswell, he got more interesting to say!

[@jakekalenowski6609]

i think ashton is a hacker

[@nortonfamily6711]

So?

[@jakekalenowski6609]

Alexander Wloka hacking is bad

[@nortonfamily6711]

Jake Kalenowski think about that; what makes it so bad, so scandelous to use a hacked mon in an online battle? As long as the moveset and ability on the pokemon are legit, there isnt any problem. The reason Ashton made it so far wasn't because of hacking his pokemon, it was because of skill.

[@nudelsuppe2090]

who cares if he hacks

[@Ketchupplant]

I'm pretty sure Ashton doesn't hack. He has used bad IVd pokemon in tournaments because he wanted to use the shiny pokemon that he got during the breeding process.

[@charliethedu3]

so the best pokemon player in the world is just a guy who abuses a move called perish song and survival tactics? sad

[@tentativaX]

+Charlie Du No, the best pokemon player in the world is a guy who miraculously keeps a Gengar alive for a whole game, as if that pokemon wasn't an extremely frail one, using pretty clever tactics. ;)

[@박민호-d3k]

Hatched 1 eggs loooool

[@Daniel-sv4xk]

fola esta jodido :v

[@22Moody]

So much hax in these matches!

[@usoppfangirl8153]

Hacks*

[@22Moody]

+ALunarAnimation 312 no, it's hax. Google it.

[@alexandershek9377]

+Javier Alfredo Calderón Celedón puns intended

[@romeobraga7503]

gengar Bulky lol