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@heinzdoofenshmirtz86433 жыл бұрын
> Manscaped sponsorship Who do you think you are, 442oons?
@grunkleg.29343 жыл бұрын
But if it's winter, why wouldn't I prefer having hairy balls? Keeps the heat in better
@MrGeorgeRohman3 жыл бұрын
Opinion on Gliscor?
@nathanpuno25693 жыл бұрын
Aye bro I think you forgot houndoom at least b tier better than rapidash it’s typing is ok
@MonkeyVoices3 жыл бұрын
I think the Manscaped sponsorships are super fun. Congrats on getting a sponsorship from them!
@emndz99953 жыл бұрын
“You know what else is low tier and hairy” “Your ballsack” -Sun Tzu (Art of war)
@ArcNine9Angel3 жыл бұрын
"I didn't say any of this crap...." -Sun Tzu, probably
@Nonexistility3 жыл бұрын
"My mom." -Muscle Man.
@roffynm2 жыл бұрын
@@Nonexistility “I miss her” -muscle man
@jizolord693 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that over a year later he’s still unapologetically shitting on onix.
@amazegamer64283 жыл бұрын
At least you can evolve it
@GatesOfAvalon13 жыл бұрын
As he should
@jizolord693 жыл бұрын
@@amazegamer6428 true. Steelix is quite the wall.
@ZzShy3 жыл бұрын
I love Onix, but hes actually trash, in some gens hes okay, but BDSP does not treat him well, tons of random Gyarados and Kadabra just decimate him, gyms all are pretty terrible match ups for him, Gardenia into Maylene into Crasher Wake into Fantina is ROUGH lol, and after that point hes statistically fallen off so hard hes practically useless. Hes actually pretty solid against Roark if you get him as your mine encounter cuz he gets Dragonbreath at Lv 12 and Bind + Dragonbreath actually works well in that gym, but thats just about all he can do.
@blademadlabs24233 жыл бұрын
It’s warranted. A lower attack stat than fucking seedot, on your giant rock snake
@TheHermano53 жыл бұрын
It´s nice to see Tier List like this where you can see the preparation before the video, which makes it not only shorter but also better quality, great job Jan, I know he won´t read this but is here for the homies anyway
@gadgets__3 жыл бұрын
But the mods will we got you
@Red-lu1rx3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Gyarados is not that good in my opinion.If I have a raichu with Thunderbolt it Will problably One shot Edit: Ok Idk how dumb I was to making this comment;-;
@TheHermano53 жыл бұрын
@@Red-lu1rx i thought you were a respectable trainer but how in the world will you leave your Gyarados against a Raichu? Gyarados carried my entire SoulSilver Hardcore Nuzlocke, got him at lvl 8, and was in my Team when I actually beat your Raichu with my Steelix :)
@issactorres38153 жыл бұрын
@@TheHermano5 agreed that was a pretty dumb comment.
@aliittayem22443 жыл бұрын
@@Red-lu1rx that’s like saying garchomp isn’t good bc u can probably one shot with blizzard. Any Pokémon sucks if you keep it in on its weakness
@Zazume_3 жыл бұрын
Waterfall on level 21 on Gyarados is completely nuts. It was already an S+ tier nuzlock Mon, despite the fact that it didn't learn any good physical water move very early. Now it lost its only downside.
@breloommaster123 жыл бұрын
I foresaw level 20 Shadow Ball Drifloon in SwSh and knew it's gonna rank high in BDSP, but BDSP gave Gyarados level 21 and I'm like WTF
@WheelStart3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why bdsp is easy...they give you many good moves early on
@r.r.45633 жыл бұрын
@@WheelStart Power up punch chimchar is just a free win on a silver platter for the early game Man
@WheelStart3 жыл бұрын
@@r.r.4563 power up punch twice and sweep with Mach punch.. GG
@jonathansong8553 жыл бұрын
Ya... 80 base power 100 accuracy at level 21 LOL
@KNBroses3 жыл бұрын
that was a fucking god tier transition to the sponsorship
@DandDgamer3 жыл бұрын
Made me laugh :3
@zasshu.72403 жыл бұрын
Simultaneously the best and worst sponsor transition I've ever seen
@tuskoub3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t finished the video, I’m guessing it was with Cherubi Edit: that was better than I could’ve ever imagined
@mecha58933 жыл бұрын
I actually laughed out loud
@pyrosianheir3 жыл бұрын
I could not... BELIEVE... that was actually where he went for it. It was so perfect, and I cracked up laughing.
@nicolascaraballo15343 жыл бұрын
Ol reliable crobat was probably the best mon I used for this game, went deathless until the elite four and crobat was a big reason for that
@ITh4n4tosI3 жыл бұрын
I've been using a plus attack pinser with swords dance lol
@botthoughts87843 жыл бұрын
I used crobat for my nuzlocke, it hasn’t died yet so I think it is good
@curgunner3 жыл бұрын
I killed my zubat from an early game gyarados I couldn’t switch into :(
@samthemessiah93303 жыл бұрын
I was using crobat until i realized I wanted my intimidate Staraptor instead. Both have been amazing for me
@sheesh32143 жыл бұрын
Make sure to pick up that ball toner folks
@Ubersupersloth3 жыл бұрын
Gyarados getting Waterfall at level 21 is likely a reference to the myth the Pokemon is based on. It’s a story about how a lowly carp manages to swim up a magical waterfall and is rewarded by being turned into a dragon or something like that. So, it learns waterfall to show that it’s able to swim up waterfalls.
@maninthetrenchcoat56033 жыл бұрын
IT GETS WHAT AT LEVEL 21?!
@yessey86243 жыл бұрын
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 waterfall
@TheHermano53 жыл бұрын
I love the background behind Magikarp, but Gyarados was strong with bite I. Past generations, now with Waterfall a Stab physical attack is crazyy
@rokviik3043 жыл бұрын
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 You think that's busted? Chimchar gets power-up punch at lvl 12. A lot of mons have updated movesets to be disgusting.
@pichuperez90373 жыл бұрын
WATERFALL!?!?! ah hell no, now Magikarp is DEFINITELY banned from my BDSP nuzlockes
@KaiTheMemeKing3 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves drapion, when he called it "just a little slow" I immediately went "bish it has 95 base speed, is that not enough for an already bulky mon?"
@chriskoloski323 жыл бұрын
I was baffled when I was using drapion and it was faster than most of my other pokemon.
@AlldaylongRock3 жыл бұрын
Second best Dark/Poison type, only behind Alolan Muk. Tho it deals way more damage with Sniper+Scope Lens Cross Poison/NightSlash crits. It also has Fell Stinger, so if u manage to switch it into something and kill it with FS.. Welp
@SableTheCrazyPerson2 жыл бұрын
@@AlldaylongRock Drapion Even Learns Swords Dance,So If Drapion gets off a Swords Dance,and Then Kills with Fell Stinger,it Gets +5 attack Instantly. Combined with Stab Moves Like Cross Poison/Night Slash Is Just Busted However,I never gave my Drapion In my Bdsp Nuzlocke (that I lost) Fell stinger. My Moveset for my Drapion In my Bdsp Nuzlocke entering the league was Swords Dance, Night Slash, Cross Poison, and Double team. Spamming Swords Dance and Double team was the way I beat Lucian
@AlldaylongRock2 жыл бұрын
@@SableTheCrazyPerson That's also a possibility, or give it something like Earthquake or Brick Break for coverage. I don't do Nuzlockes but I used Drapion a lot in Pokémon Reborn, which is hard as fuck. Now I'm also using it in Pokémon Rejuvenation, and also Alolan Muk, which is also hard as fuck. Both are hard carried my ass through the games
@christopherballero8663 жыл бұрын
Fighting types unfortunately have a lot to compete with: finding a better fighting type than Infernape, several types they're weak to, & Staraptor being common and getting close combat so it actually could replace a fighting type
@nifdoowo3 жыл бұрын
It's not just infernape it's the guaranteed lucario that really makes their lives difficult, plus how sinnoh was made with no fairy type for its encounter balance and lucario and infernape are the only ones that isn't an issue with.
@gamerguy2323 жыл бұрын
@@nifdoowo not really a guaranteed Lucario if you are like me and can’t make the damn Rilou like you at all
@issackim69183 жыл бұрын
@@gamerguy232 Just get a soothe bell and you're good to go.
@gamerguy2323 жыл бұрын
@@issackim6918 I do have it and I got him to level 25 and he still hates me
@brendonpickens3 жыл бұрын
@@gamerguy232 run around with him following you for 40 mins, easy.
@ethiopia42043 жыл бұрын
If this game had the move tutor like Platinum this list would be so different. Like Rampardos gets fire and thunder punch and Rapidash gets Heat Wave. It's insane how much better Platinum is to base Diamond and Pearl.
@Psycho_Raged3 жыл бұрын
For Rapidash, it still has a lackluster special attack stat. If it had a better physical move pool, it would be better.
@mattimeikalainen69633 жыл бұрын
Wait why do you want heat wave on rapidash instead of flamethrower? Less power and it can miss. The range for doubles is not a thing to consider
@ethiopia42043 жыл бұрын
@@mattimeikalainen6963 I needed a second example besides Rampardos, Rapidash was the first mon I thought of.
@Rarest263 жыл бұрын
@@ethiopia4204 Superpower Honchkrow is a pretty good one.
@chainbomb3 жыл бұрын
Ice punch on weavile too, and you can get scizor basically as soon as you get scyther since wild bronzors hold metal coat, or you get one when you finish iron island
@reynoldszelaya45593 жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with these games is that a good chunk of the better evolutions we were given are notably absent from the base game. Gen 4 gave us Rhyperior, Electivire, Magmortar, Froslass, Gallade, Probopass, etc. And you can only get these Pokémon either in the post-game or the underground, which is so much wasted potential!
@sarthakkhare98433 жыл бұрын
Underground is still okay cz you get those during main story, but Gliscor is impossible to get without completing the game.
@Ace-pi3wt3 жыл бұрын
gen 4 introduced over a dozen evolutions to old pokemon. the only ones you can get before the post game are roserade, weavile and mismagius or honchkrow depending on what version you're on. It's weird cos all the new baby pokemon, chingling, bonsly, munchlax, mantyke, mime jr, budew and happiny are all available before the national dex even though theyre way less liked than the new evolutions. gen 4 had some weird design choices.
@MountainDewIdaho3 жыл бұрын
Magnezone
@sushi2872 жыл бұрын
@@sarthakkhare9843 some pokemon like tangrowth and the eeveelutions straight up aren’t in the game until nat dex. Gliscor and Dusknoir are also postgame exclusive, even though gligar and duskull can be caught early on??? Honestly this is the most stupid thing about these games
@MrPatrickbuit2 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Jackson There's this rule in place that Pokemon games just have to suck. Unless it's Legends of Arceus, it cannot be good.
@PhilfreezeCH3 жыл бұрын
I personally got a Abomasnow late game just for Cynthia. I just set up trick room, sent out Abomasnow and just annihilated Cynthias team, 100% accuracy blizzard is just insane...
@OsLiiiii3 жыл бұрын
What team did you use?
@Dreana773 жыл бұрын
I'm upset Kricketune is F tier. I used it to sweep Cynthia. Swarm Metronome holding kricketune with a double team, swords dance, substitute, and x-scissor. The worst type ever and in his F tier. And I distroyed Cynthia with it. By the time I got to garchomp I had a substitute still up and x scissor had an extreme metronome bonus and was completely swords danced, it missed the substitute and I one shot the Garchomp :) it was level 64 by the end of it all
@Jefstito2 жыл бұрын
@@Dreana77 i think thats more of a testimony of how broken SD and substitutes are than anything else
@Dreana772 жыл бұрын
@@Jefstito true
@sptflcrw85832 жыл бұрын
@@Dreana77 evasion boosting moves are off limits fir a hard-core nuzlocke
@FireflyOnyx2 жыл бұрын
Ive used a Pachirisu in a Nuzlocke. It should be able to kill a Gyrados by using discharge with a magnet, right? No, it did a third then got one shot with giga impact.
@Starluck403 жыл бұрын
Did a hardcore nuzlocke myself, and I gotta say that Pelipper carried my whole team so many times. Mystic Water rain boosted STAB Surf just does so much damage, and it's tanky as well. I got lucky and got a bold nature one, but after I entered the hall of fame I checked its IVs and it was decent at best. I recommend everyone to definitely give it a try!
@zunkgrass23413 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was honestly surprised he rated it so low, boosted water moves and good physical bulk should be enough to make it at least B tier imo. Obviously it’s a lot worse without drizzle that goes without saying
@SerDerpish3 жыл бұрын
Potentially rain-boosted STAB Hurricane and Roost as level up moves don’t hurt either
@mikewarper67893 жыл бұрын
Gliscor is so good you can't use it before beating the League
@lamotou4banana3833 жыл бұрын
I think it's in the Underground for BD
@sizzle57753 жыл бұрын
@@lamotou4banana383 Gligar can be found underground but Gliscor is post game only.
@elijah7744s3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Gliscor beat the entire Elite 4 and champion in Platinum with Swords dance and Earthquake
@LuigiLissandra3 жыл бұрын
@@lamotou4banana383 razor fang is post game
@witherchuchu34043 жыл бұрын
@@lamotou4banana383 glilgar is but the item to evolve it is post game sadly
@shaygoeptar3793 жыл бұрын
Actually Jan, after realizing that my Unown encounter actually had the Hidden Power: Fighting I kept it around for a while, smacked a Metronome on it, and even watched it manhandle Byron before eventually dying off to an unfortunate crit in the snow later on in-game. I still miss the little dude. Never would've thought I'd ever be sad about losing a gawddamn Unown, buddy turned out to be surprisingly useful for an F-tier lmao
@catsthatsmokemeth3 жыл бұрын
What letter was it?
@energyshatty90203 жыл бұрын
what letter did u get
@summermermaidstar7563 жыл бұрын
what letter was the unown?
@energyshatty90203 жыл бұрын
SHAY PLEASE WE WANNA KNOW
@ThumbSipper3 жыл бұрын
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHAY, ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
@alexhough76533 жыл бұрын
So fun fact about my underleveled Chatot. I gave it the Metronome item combined with Chatter. Literally swept nearly the entire elite four with it including Cynthia.
@RockmanZeroModernDay3 жыл бұрын
Clefable: S-tier (Since she got the Fairy-type, she'll be a Garchomp killer) (Giving a Kebia Berry to stop Garchomp dead in its tracks) Squoop (Gastrodon): A-tier (Fun to use, cute, and perfect Water/Ground-type) Garchomp: Pokemon Platinum is still difficult, but gives you a Gible early on in Wayward Cave. Garchomp is way better in Generation 4 without fairies.
@AceHufflepuff3 жыл бұрын
*sees Sqoop* I understood that reference
@Type.ict73 жыл бұрын
@@AceHufflepuff same haha
@thebeefinator5353 жыл бұрын
@@AceHufflepuff r.i.p. squoop
@angelicaph4833 жыл бұрын
squoop? wait its that a reference to Jaiden's gastrodon in her platinum nuzlocke?
@Ch40sInC0ntr013 жыл бұрын
I named my shellos that in respect
@bobbyeder11353 жыл бұрын
Drapion is so nuts with black sludge plus battle armor. Defensive Mon 110 def, 90 atk, 90 speed so it's fast for a defensive Mon, has fell stinger and swords dance. Eats phys moves, can set up sweep slower teams, 1 weakness, 1 immunity. It's so crazy and it had knock off for the competitive move sets w/held items in this game which imo raises it's viability. Such a good encounter only problem is it's late evo, but if you go to certain zones it's like 50-60% chance to encounter for your grand underground encounter.
@Tyeus223 жыл бұрын
Considering my Drapion swept Cynthia with ease, you probably have a point
@kevinzhang86433 жыл бұрын
Honestly even with sniper, its still insane. Give it a scope lens and just watch it crit through everything. Any defensive set up mons just get absolutely shredded.
@KaiTheMemeKing3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinzhang8643 Sniper drapions are my favorite. Since I don't normally nuzlocke I usually go for sniper + scope lens. Combine that with moves like night slash and cross poison (both have increased crit chance already) and it basically crits every move...
@serge2cool3 жыл бұрын
I was laughing at most the game with black sludge Drapion and I only got Sniper (which ain't as stronk as it was back then, 2x instead of 3x crit damage). He absorbs pois and dark no probs, psychic too and just about everything else minus ground xD
@athath20103 жыл бұрын
@@kevinzhang8643 Not just defensive set up mons- because happiness and affection are the same stat in this game, if your Drapion wuvs you enough, its crit rate is doubled. The chance to crit BEFORE this doubling if you're at +2 crit rate (due to, say, holding a scope lens and using a STAB Night Slash or STAB Cross Poison) is 50%. Do the math.
@romerus60873 жыл бұрын
another good point about starly evolution line, is that he learns powerfull moves ver early, like wing attack at lvl 9 .
@atedinahalf6288 Жыл бұрын
I caught that little fucker and thought what the hell is this going to do. 30 levels later it's a freakin eagal.
@togevoid84773 жыл бұрын
Gyarados in Nuzlockes is just the main protagonist for every run.
@sachalec35482 жыл бұрын
And if it dies there's like 10 other fishing spot to get it
@Dofpie2 ай бұрын
@@sachalec3548Dupes clause: 😏
@apricot83013 жыл бұрын
I will say, on my casual play through, Girafig was pretty solid against Team (Galactic?). With thunderbolt it basically had perfect coverage against all their mons. Also learns nasty plot so was a decent sweeper with a Sitrus Berry 🤷
@mennowouters39383 жыл бұрын
Damn I’m gonna try that now
@panda-phat3 жыл бұрын
Never used one. Personally, I just dont really like its design and the fact that it doesn't evolve Sounds like a devastating strat though
@lennyfacetd90783 жыл бұрын
One thing worth mentioning about Lumineon it’s that it has access to Storm Drain and Aqua Ring which seems redundant but it can completely wall Cynthia’s Milotic, I ended up stalling that thing, getting recovery as it’s ice beam barely does anything, mirror coat is easily played against and it’s other 2 moves can’t touch you, if you end up pp stalling it. Milotic will be forced to use scald which will boost your special attack effectively making lumineon able to ohko both Lucario and Garchomp ( Cynthia will eventually change into Roserade in abou 5-6 turns so Lumineon having access to U Turn can give you great pivot use)
@athath20103 жыл бұрын
She... didn't switch out once she ran out of moves that could hurt you? Her switching AI was pretty impressive when my brother and I fought her.
@lennyfacetd90783 жыл бұрын
@@athath2010 she switched twice, gastrodon and roserade but once they were KO’d she stayed with Milotic
@techlabarthur3 жыл бұрын
This is sage advice since I tried to use Roserade against Cynthia and got OHKO’d by her first ice beam
@luco42223 жыл бұрын
24:33 and then there is the Drapion i caught on a whim during my playthrough. Its jolly and its faster then my Infernape
@MrOwn2one3 жыл бұрын
Jan: 22:17 “Really good against Cynthia, cause it keeps her two really powerful water types in check” Me: gets one shot by Milotic with mirror coat
@juniperjahir383 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, Cynthia for my Roserade never used Mirror coat
@physicsismelody55813 жыл бұрын
Then buy some better rng
@juniperjahir383 жыл бұрын
@@physicsismelody5581 WYM I already won and stated Roserade never got hit by Mirror coat
@TheWrathAbove3 жыл бұрын
@@juniperjahir38 I think they were replying to OP
@dogze67443 жыл бұрын
@@juniperjahir38 Yeah, like the person above me said. I think they're replying to Mr.Own
@michaellogozzo20733 жыл бұрын
“Don’t worry about why Twitch chat is laughing at me about that Pokémon right now” Hmm… I wonder why… which trainer in this game has a Medicham
@Woodenfan3 жыл бұрын
Also I have to add the obligatory #fuckMindy
@michaellogozzo20733 жыл бұрын
@@Woodenfan YESSIR
@justinreignmaquelc.dalisay94933 жыл бұрын
the affection mechanic is SO busted, my super luck honchkrow currently has ~100% crit ratio with night slash XD
@grey72713 жыл бұрын
not 100% unfortunately. but i’ve only seen it not crit once so it may as well be ❗️❗️
@justinreignmaquelc.dalisay94933 жыл бұрын
@@grey7271 agree, though i'm still waiting for it to not crit XD. can't wait to get a razor claw for that mf 😂 wicked blow bdsp style
@grey72713 жыл бұрын
@@justinreignmaquelc.dalisay9493 oh my god i completely forgot about razor claw once i equip it that thing will always crit i’m sure
@angelicaph4833 жыл бұрын
Bruh thats insane dude 🤣
@shadowstar21943 жыл бұрын
Honchkrow with max affection/friendship with Super Luck and a Razer Claw was my ticket to success in gen 7. Ultra Necrozma, I saw many people struggle with. I killed it turn one with Sucker Punch because Honchkrow crit it. And he just kinda did that all the time regardless.
@dragonicdoom37723 жыл бұрын
I didn't nuzlocke, but I'm still really happy with my strategy for fighting Cynthia: Snorlax with Belly Drum and Substitute while holding Leftovers. This mon single handedly took down Cynthia's Milotic and tanked a +2 Earthquake from Garchomp. He didn't take Garchomp down but he did do about 75% of its HP. Also, Drapion is OP in this game with the affection boosts because when you combine it with Razor Claw/Scope Lens you end up critting about 70% of the time and it just melts your opponent's HP bar.
@athath20103 жыл бұрын
snorlax good pokemon
@athath20103 жыл бұрын
Also, holding a scope lens and using a high crit rate move (like STAB Night Slash or STAB Cross Poison) gives you a crit rate of 50%. Having a high happiness stat (which got merged with affection in this game) DOUBLES that to **100%**. Battle Armor is the better Drapion ability for Nuzlocking, but Sniper is no slouch.
@dragonicdoom37723 жыл бұрын
@@athath2010 I'm not sure its 100%, I definitely didn't crit every time. Maybe my Drapion isn't quite at MAX happiness yet then.
@losingfayth3 жыл бұрын
Pachirisu is mostly useless for battling, BUT Nuzzle and Super Fang (which it gets at decent levels) definitely help, especially for catching Pokemon, and Pick Up as an ability isn't great obviously but can be nice to have for money or item farming. I thought it was going to drag me down significantly, but it turned out to be incredibly useful. Still can't OHKO a lot of Pokemon it should be able to, though.
@heinzdoofenshmirtz86433 жыл бұрын
Nuzzle and Super Fang is actually two of the moves Sejun used when he won the VGC a few years ago (along with Follow Me and Protect). Also, if you think Pachirisu is useless, you clearly haven't watched Marriland's Platinum Nuzlocke when Ninjarisu was pretty good. It also just occurred to me that Jan hasn't watched it either, judging by where he put it. Both of you really underestimate Pachirisu. A lot. Pachirisu is much better than either of you give it credit for.
@Nexpeon3 жыл бұрын
@@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 it’s c tier at best, it is still trash and VGC is completely different from nuzlockes
@heinzdoofenshmirtz86433 жыл бұрын
@@Nexpeon The Marriland point still stands, so Pachirisu is still better than you lot give it credit for.
@Nexpeon3 жыл бұрын
@@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 I agree it’s better than it was in this video however it still sucks ass and has little to no use, no bulk no attacking capability other than super fang and the only thing it is really decent at is using its speed to nuzzle or charm
@heinzdoofenshmirtz86433 жыл бұрын
@@Nexpeon Little to no use? Excuse me? Did you not see Marriland's Platinum Nuzlocke? Ninjarisu was pretty good.
@cynda11783 жыл бұрын
Pokemon Challenges: Who wants to grind in the underground for evolution stones? No one. Me: *is addicted to the underground and has over 10 skull fossils and just as many Thunder Stones to prove it.*
@blaziken77mw493 жыл бұрын
Seeing this I’m suddenly a lot more confident in my current hardcore nuzlocke team of gyarados, gastrodon, crobat, empoleon, roserade, and clefable
@SableTheCrazyPerson3 жыл бұрын
Damn,that's a good team,with half of them in this tier list's S Tier,one of those 3 being the best in the whole game
@AndresGonzalez-dw4ni3 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that you have 3 water tyes and that team is still extremely powerful lmfao
@blaziken77mw493 жыл бұрын
@@AndresGonzalez-dw4ni well, the gyarados knew rain dance so it just made all them better
@AndresGonzalez-dw4ni3 жыл бұрын
@@blaziken77mw49 yeah i agree. Its just you know, normally you want to avoid repeating types. But here is an example of how abilities and secondary typings just nullify that
@noahlebaron7293 жыл бұрын
I always loved best girl Vespiquen, so it's sad to see her not ranked, but it's obviously understandable why.
@ultimatehope5493 жыл бұрын
Girlfriend: I love you, babe. Jan: I love you too. But you know what I love more? Today’s sponsor, Manscaped.
@bluestorm7493 жыл бұрын
1:31 You can actually restart the game while in the fight with the combee to reroll its gender. The pokemon from the honey tree won’t change, but the gender can.
@Thunterise3 жыл бұрын
That ain't a nuzlocke mate
@zacharybancroft7473 жыл бұрын
@@Thunterise nuzlockes can be whatever you want 🤷♂️ its all about a personal challenge so if you want to allow re rolling the gender, then you can. Its up to you
@bluestorm7493 жыл бұрын
@@Thunterise it’s kinda similar to how you can in some pokemon games manipulate rng so you can dodge spinning trainers easier. Besides all it does is give you more options to play with.
@vindifference3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharybancroft747 In that case, can we also allow re-rolling the pokemon?
@zacharybancroft7473 жыл бұрын
@@vindifference bro if you want. Who cares? The point of a nuzlocke is to make the game more fun. If rerolling mons is more fun for you then go for it
@proborderlandsgamer3 жыл бұрын
Did you take into account the new pickup tables for pachirisu? You can use pachirisu to get early shiny/dawn/dusk stones, so you could semi reliably provided you get the encounters have a roserade pre gym 2. The drop rates on the stones are pretty decent actually. Same with Mismagius/honchcrow
@ZzShy3 жыл бұрын
Pachirisu is way too low on this list, hes definitely not amazing but hes not bad, stats are actually good/decent for the early/mid game and hes got lots of utility as well as decent speed. Should be upper C tier at minimum and probably B tier imo
@proborderlandsgamer3 жыл бұрын
@@ZzShy electric is also a pretty good pivot to bait ground moves if you need to bring in a levitate/flying mon, use pachirisu to bait a ground move to get intimidate off with a staraptor
@jacobmonks37223 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I like getting Zigzagoon in Hoenn. Even more than Belly Drum Linoone, just being able to get such good items so early in the game, or get a bunch Nuggets for money, is ridiculously useful.
@heinzdoofenshmirtz86433 жыл бұрын
@@ZzShy Exactly. Pachirisu is way better than Jan gave it credit for.
@michaeltrevino82343 жыл бұрын
I will not take this Pachirisu slander
@whybother34863 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is the right place to comment this, I unintentionally started my first nuzlock in Brilliant Diamond. I realized after I got to the first gym that I had followed the encounter rules and now I’m wondering if I finish the game like this, I even had my first death and boxed a geodude.
@SleepLessThan33 жыл бұрын
I also started a nuzlocke in brilliant diamond. No grinding and I stayed a consistent 10 ish levels higher than the opposing trainers until around the 5th gym. In addition, everything was going swimmingly until I lost female combee butterfree and zubat to a random geodudes that 1 shot them right before the 3rd gym :C.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi3 жыл бұрын
You can go for a full nuzlock but if this is your first one, I'm warning you now: *you are going to have a bad time with the Elite Four and Cynthia.* But I don't want to be a pessimist, you can do it! Just focus hard, play smart, prepare your Pokemon, don't underestimate your opponents AND DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POKEMON LEAGUE!!! Plan especially hard for Garchomp because he can singlehandedly DESTROY a run.
@serge2cool3 жыл бұрын
Beware the fighting gym, have something for her final Pokemon or you're in trouble! I reckon Torterra and Monferno/Infernape should be fine, Empoleon care a bit
@dragonmaster30303 жыл бұрын
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi personally I came up with a rule for my nuzlockes when nuzlocking the game for the first time that I have the ability to revive a single Pokemon throughout the playthrough as to lower grinding and frustration from rng antics
@TheSaphireKatana2 жыл бұрын
9:11 yeah spent a while training up a kedabra for fighting gym, gave it psychic He won his 1st fight with a one shot psychic. 2nd fight he was immediately one shot by a machokes critical hit knock off or something. So that was a massive waste of time...
@jamjam71163 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you would include the available Pokemon in the underground for example ralts and magnemite that you can catch before the 2nd gym
@bernag19993 жыл бұрын
He probably didnt because you can get sneasel with ice punch on the undergrpund aka a egg move so he probably didnt research that part
@mangosteak3 жыл бұрын
@@bernag1999 Doesn't he in only co sider regular encounters?
@serge2cool3 жыл бұрын
Underground is pretty neato, but also quite expansive so yeah it makes sense he missed the egg move sneasels etc. I also agree with him for Nuzlocke's and how Underground can give you a big edge with already-levelled/evolved pokemon (like Houndoom) kind of shit on some of the other types. I got early Skorupi and Quagsire and was laughing.
@lukeoakley64673 жыл бұрын
Underground is wild. Got a lvl42 magnemite and so I got a magnezone like 5 minutes later
@athath20103 жыл бұрын
@@bernag1999 He said at the beginning of the video that he wasn't counting underground 'mons because there are so many and because the GU interacts with the Nuzlocke ruleset a bit weirdly.
@karlgomez64993 жыл бұрын
Imagine with the addition of fairy types for bdsp makes clefairy go S now that Fairy is super affective to dragons and spiritomb
@viridiansexperimentchannel7113 жыл бұрын
16:48 -I got a Scizor before post game, but that was going somewhat out of the way to get Scyther in the underground and use super luck to get a metal coat off of a Bronzor- and also trade it when I met up with a friend
@jayd.doubledubs2 жыл бұрын
As someone with Gyarados as their favorite mon, I am so happy. Dragon Rage, Ice Fang, Aqua Tail, Rain Dance, Intimidate, man it's just awesome. I will never get bored of catching and raising Magikarp and sweeping with Gyarados. D-Dance has been such a life-saver for me; I feel so safe knowing I can just pull it out and sweep if I'm in a pinch
@aceaggron90653 жыл бұрын
My final team in my casual run was Pacharisu (F) Lumineon (C) Abomasnow (B) Sudowoodo (B) Honchcrow (B) and Bronzong (A), ranked alot higher than I thought tbh
@joshkitto39433 жыл бұрын
I would like this more with having the tier and list visible, I like to stare at the Pokémon and ask myself "Ooo where will that go?!"
@bloemkoolendestreetgang4503 жыл бұрын
Ambipom is actually super good with Technician. It gets a ton of really nice technician boosted moves, like dual chop, thief, aerial ace, and double hit
@raunjisto29253 жыл бұрын
That Clefable description just rocked my world. Only issue is if you encounter a dark type with it.
@CeruleanTrafficlight3 жыл бұрын
2:49 I'll concede that Pachi is not made for raw damage output... but if you end up with one, it can be a great supporting mon. The Pickup table in this game is great (depending on how strict you are on items the kind/amount of utility changes; early-ish stone evos and eventual bottlecaps if you keep it, could sell any potions/revives for extra cash), Pachi has higher defenses than you may expect so it may actually (depending on the opponent/hit of course) live if you sac it off, and you can get plenty of utility from nuzzle+volt switch when catching/to keep momentum. It's not a heavy hitter but exceeded my expectations.
@michaeltrevino82343 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Pachirisu is a fantastic support mon with Charm, Nuzzle, Light Screen, and Volt Switch (at least that was my moveset) and high defenses, so it's not living a Earthquake obviously but it can tank a lot of normal hits and sometimes super effective when it's not STAB. I'm biased obviously but I would at least put it in C, it's highly underestimated especially with the low amount of Electric types in Sinnoh naturally.
@lumineinfinitussilverkagat80943 жыл бұрын
I was shocked when I saw Gyarados learn Waterfall in my run and ngl it went on rampage through out the entire game and that was before it learned Dragon Dance(which was also the reason I even defeated Cynthia)
@burntfrootloop40732 жыл бұрын
I will never forget my Cherrim one-shotting everything on Bertha's team with Sunny Day/Solar Beam. She should at least be in high C tier for being able to solo an Elite Four member.
@mattardis3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely interested in hearing how spiritomb stacks up. Yes its incredibly tedious and time consuming to encounter, but if you choose to take the time to farm NPCs underground, it can be a guaranteed encounter. I used one on my casual playthrough of BD.
@zunkgrass23413 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s gotta be better than every route 209 encounter besides Chansey (which you get for free in Hearthome so no reason to go after it in the wild). I’d say it’s easily A tier, only 1 very uncommon weakness with great stats and learnset
@Jonnicom3 жыл бұрын
We all knew where Gyarados was gonna be, didn't we?
@simon37133 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a nuzlocke playthrough with only F and D tier pokemon
@765craven42 жыл бұрын
Legit during my playthrough of BDSP when my Magikarp evolved into a Gyarados, I used it in one battle and it learned Waterfall on level-up I did a double-take.
@_Dreadd3 жыл бұрын
16:45 scizor isn’t post game you can get him before the second gym by thiefing bronzor in wayward cave or underground. Also 22:10 you don’t get roserade late u can get shiny stones from pick up farming with a bunch of pachirisu and evolve before the second gym as well even tho u shouldn’t cuz u want giga drain
@zacharybancroft7473 жыл бұрын
Where do you get Scyther?
@JameShark_3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharybancroft747 Scyther is in the grand underground.
@zacharybancroft7473 жыл бұрын
Ah ok I think jan didn't count underground cuz by most rule sets the underground would only count as one encounter and scyther is rare. Kinda for the same reason he didn't count a lot of honey tree pokemon
@_Dreadd3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharybancroft747 yea he didn’t count it but he still says that it’s post game and it’s not
@_Dreadd3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharybancroft747 yea he didn’t count it but he still says that it’s post game and it’s not
@OFSheep3 жыл бұрын
Kriketune needs one acknowledgement: it's the only Pokemon before the national dex that gets Sticky Web. Your opponents can get really, really, *really* fast in this game so a free -1 speed can make some strats possible.
@panther11143 жыл бұрын
I do Agree the thing that sicks about Milotoc is friendship, because it cures its burn
@elfennaze15523 жыл бұрын
Weavile is my favorite Pokémon, and he has so much potential,but unfortunately, in this game,he can learn good physical ice moves only with breeding and eggs moves. In sword and shield,it was very easy to give a Pokémon an egg move without breeding,but in this game, since it's a "faithful remake", the only way to get a Pokémon with egg moves,is with breeding...making this difficult to use Weavile in a nuzlocke. Ice shard is a priority move,and with an heart scale,is easy to get,but 40 power is not enough to be considered a good move to use against the elite 4 in a nuzlocke, but his dark typing and beat up makes him decent enough,and you can teach him sword dance with the tm you can buy in the very early game (setting sword dance makes ice shard a fantastic move -> priority move, + 2 attack with sword dance used for the first 3 turns, stab move -> same type = more damage). Very good against dragon and psychic type,with a sword dance strat .
@corverus1273 жыл бұрын
It's possible to find wild Pokémon with decent egg moves in the Grand Underground. I was able to catch a Sneasel with Ice Punch and another one with Throat Chop.
@elfennaze15523 жыл бұрын
@@corverus127 yeah,that's true,but for a nuzlocke,I wouldn't even consider catching Pokémon in the underground. The underground is perfect for competitive,casual play,and completing the Pokédex, but for a nuzlocke,it doesn't feel right to me.
@WheelStart3 жыл бұрын
Plus, it's already so fast so priority moves like ice Shard most of the time is just useless
@shadowlife1511 ай бұрын
People sleep on defense curl golem with rollout. Like yeah the accuracy on rollout sucks but that adds some rng spice to the run. Also a defense curl'd golem on it's 5th rollout one shots everything in the game. but also geodude get's rollout by level 10 in gen 8, which is the gen BDSP happen to be in, meaning you can use this combo SUPER early.
@captainacorn78853 жыл бұрын
Pachirisu in F Tier Me: Sitting here with a Pachirisu that two Shot Gyarados with Nuzzle knowing I could use Electro Ball instead "This is fine."
@beckydunn-mills31262 жыл бұрын
Me and luxury
@npotter12263 жыл бұрын
LOVE the format of this tier list video! Keep it up brother! Been watching since 40k!!!
@manfredzwick52783 жыл бұрын
Gyarados getting Waterfall early makes sense when you think about the legend of the fish that went up the waterfall and became a dragon.
@taupi52463 жыл бұрын
Girafarig isn't sweeping Fantina but it 1v1s Gengar very safely, you just have to bait the shadow claw If you have a steel type as well you can free switch to it against Mismagius and 1v1 it, since for some reason its only stab move is physical...
@NormalGuy9852 жыл бұрын
Did a BDSP impossible nuzlocke and it was brutal My team was DracoKiller the weavile Jan the Gallade X ray the Luxray Fire puncher the Infernape Iron fist the lucario Revenge the Garchomp (I caught a gible named it powerhouse but it got killed by a Chansey, caught a Gabite and took revenge on teh parent in the victory road)
@Panguin9z3 жыл бұрын
It makes me so happy to see Mamoswine getting some love. It is without a doubt my favorite Pokémon
@Panguin9z3 жыл бұрын
And yes this is supposed to be a joke. I’m so sad
@zacharybancroft7473 жыл бұрын
Side note about milotic: there was a tool that was made where you can enter in your daily lotto number, and based on that number, the tool tells you what tiles you can catch feebas on for that day!super useful! Highly recommend
@rustythebard3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the tool?
@zacharybancroft7473 жыл бұрын
@@rustythebard if you look up adrive on KZbin he made a video about it a few days ago and put the link in the description. Shouldn't be hard to find
@rustythebard3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharybancroft747 thanks!
@ivorynektahz19833 жыл бұрын
thats the best sponsor transition i've ever seen
@PsychoDiesel483 жыл бұрын
true
@NormalGuy9852 жыл бұрын
Every child in this vid: I cAnT bElIeVe YoU pUt *insert favorite Pokémon here* In *insert tier here* ThAt Is My FaVoRiTe PoKeMoN
@arch32233 жыл бұрын
Great list. Gyrados and Crobat are some of my favorite mons.
@Amelia41113 жыл бұрын
THERE SHOULD BE 2 A'S IN GYARADOS!
@ParasaurolophusZ3 жыл бұрын
One good thing about Pachirisu from my playthrough: Pickup. I managed to find a Shiny Stone and a Dusk Stone before the second gym through Pickup.
@tobe15793 жыл бұрын
I like the new style for this tier list-video. It's a lot more structured than your old vids.
@jacksonhawkins27758 ай бұрын
I recently beat Cynthia with Weavile swords dance sweep. Horrible defensive typing IMHO but so good
@Mudkip9713 жыл бұрын
Completely untrue. While I wasn't doing a Nuzlock, Pachirisu was still my most valuable member of my team. It absolutely DESTROYED Wake's Gyrados in one hit with Spark. As a matter of fact using Nuzzle and Super Fang was very useful and Pachirisu was bulky enough to take 1 hit without even loosing half of my health. It was very useful against most water types in the game and all the Golbats Team Galactic kept using. Granted during the end game it was harder to manage using it.
@athath20103 жыл бұрын
base 45 atk/sp. atk moment
@Mudkip9713 жыл бұрын
@@athath2010 early to mid game he's really good
@pedrouchoa4723 жыл бұрын
@@athath2010 it is not an offensive pokémon. It is a support one, so who caras about atk and sp.atk?
@SeizeRaider3 жыл бұрын
you probably overlevelled your pachirisu quite a bit then, since spark should never kill gyarados when on same level or below. Even 2-3 levels higher it wouldn't. Not saying you can't overlevel.
@_DN-xp4ro3 жыл бұрын
best intro for the ad didnt skip ahead. u deserved the audience retention on that period of time
@l_galand9423 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, I was just about to start doing the dishes
@crypticutopia72283 жыл бұрын
The dishes can wait
@brain_tonic3 жыл бұрын
@@crypticutopia7228 they meant that they will listen to this while doing dishes.
@ExoticCatLitter3 жыл бұрын
there are like 5-6 different sections of the underground that are separated from each other, so i would probably count each as their own new encounter to add a bit of variety to the run
@randomshit65393 жыл бұрын
Imma go cry. Chatot is my ace in my regular run. Chatter and Hypervoice, Parting shot and Roost, is amazing, don't @ me
@solemnander3 жыл бұрын
Just so many better choices. Not a terrible mon, but gets outdone by so many other flying types
@alexhoehn81233 жыл бұрын
Ehh, it’s your game, if you like Chatot and it’s working, then use it! You don’t always have to worry about what’s “optimal” especially in an easier game like bdsp
@randomshit65393 жыл бұрын
@@alexhoehn8123 Wasn't really meant serious. I'm close to winning the game without grinding once or catching specific mons. I basically need special attackers other than Palkia
@djroscurro98593 жыл бұрын
@@solemnander way I see it, how much you like a mon can play into whether you use it or not
@solemnander3 жыл бұрын
@@djroscurro9859 yeah I’m just saying what Jan said pretty much, I agree, use whatever you want, but in terms of viability he’s obviously not the greatest
@elieddy42773 жыл бұрын
One more thing about Empoleon: it's got crazy coverage moves. Surf/charm/grass knot/flash cannon Empoleon carried me through the Elite 4. Only downside is that Flash Cannon is the only special steel type move you can teach it. For Nuzlocking purposes, it learns Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Rain Dance, Protect, etc. Hell, it can even set up rocks if you wanted it to
@Neo_Bones3 жыл бұрын
Pachirisu should be ranked higher since it gets Pickup, which allows you to get early Dusk Stones for Honchkrow and Mismagius. Kricketune’s early game performance is why it should be at least raised to D Also, by your rules Carnivine shouldn’t be included because it’s only in the Great Marsh binoculars
@TheSaphireKatana2 жыл бұрын
33:29 seeing this tier list makes me pretty happy with how my team turned out Infernape Luxray Gyarados Gardevoir Crobat Snorlax Only lost 3 Pokemon on my run so far (shellos, bronzor, kadabra) and just reached the pokemon league island, hopefully I can break through the cave and then the league with this team
@ankitsaikumar68663 жыл бұрын
You forgot togekiss , easily s class with new fairy typing and serene grace boosted ancient power and air slash
@uniqueusername6773 жыл бұрын
Togepi is only gotten from the underground, and he excluded underground only Pokemon.
@miriehr59933 жыл бұрын
i just love watching your manscaped sponsor skits, like, it's funny af
@teddy-jameslambert15143 жыл бұрын
I love how these games still gate off final evolutions for post game. So fun for team diversity. I guess I won’t be using gliscor then. Yay.
@archflamingo91563 жыл бұрын
Or evee
@joseluisdiazdelrio85252 жыл бұрын
that pokemon mystery dungeon music from the begining really brought back memories. AWESOME VIDEO!!
@Eassle3 жыл бұрын
So I’m doing my first nuzlocke on this game now, it’s taking me a little longer than most because of work but so far I’ve only lost 1 (crobat) and I just got the steel badge. Picked turtwig. I am useing the jirachi just because I thought it would be cool to actually use one. Had a couple close calls so far. Didn’t expect perma death influence the way I played this much, it’s kinda refreshing. But yes ty for the tier list I was curious if my mons sucked or not
@tonyg97753 жыл бұрын
31:24 this is why I hate Clefable now
@kyranstaats3 жыл бұрын
Where is my bud togekiss at?
@TheSaphireKatana2 жыл бұрын
27:35 still hurts my soul that I lost this one before I even managed to reach the fighting gym
@classymofo10593 жыл бұрын
BuT PaChIrIsU WoN tHe WoRlD ChAmPiOnShIp. YoU dOn'T kNoW wHaT yOu'Re TaLkInG aBoUt Mr.StReAmEr
@bluestorm7493 жыл бұрын
25:28 Ah yes, fishing for Feebas in that stupid cave for 4 hours, my favourite
@marklepore54153 жыл бұрын
Sneasel can get ice punch in the underground (egg moves on the underground Pokémon is an awesome addition in bdsp). Though, since underground Pokémon weren’t used for this list, sneasel/Weavile isn’t that great at all as you said, but not bad.
@willdittig83692 жыл бұрын
What is the song that plays at 0:50
@Bolt_zekrom5 ай бұрын
It's " welcome to the world of pokemon " from pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky....
@ejlangstaff1593 жыл бұрын
We need to see an F tier only run
@kseide23 жыл бұрын
That ad transition was S tier. What’s not S tier is assuming your viewers have partners to stay groomed down there for
@chaitanyatiwari32653 жыл бұрын
Only if gengar still had levitate
@Robin1337x3 жыл бұрын
jan putting more effort into the ball deodorant ad than the tier list and im loving it
@ankitrudrachatterjee3 жыл бұрын
You should probably drop saying that you're "probably" the best Nuzlocker in the world - I seriously don't think anyone is a better Nuzlocker than you. 🤔
@giulianodc40623 жыл бұрын
remember that nothing is certain, like the fact that I'm not living in your walls
@nero78623 жыл бұрын
@@giulianodc4062 same bro, hand over his hair brush
@intensedad28273 жыл бұрын
Every single sprite Jan showed in the video has more life than the complete remake.
@Fantallana3 жыл бұрын
Gottem
@kheireddineattala12813 жыл бұрын
Pro nuzlocker ranks pokemon he already ranked because he has no more content ideas
@seanmccusker22822 жыл бұрын
I decided to start a Shining Pearl nuzlocke and Beautifly SAVED MY RUN. I lost my Chimchar in the first gym, and had to use a Zubat to beat Roark. Zubat fell to Skuntank, but I was able to get Beautifly shortly after. This Beautifly ended up carrying me all the way to Gardenia, AND it sweeped with Air Cutter. I love Beautifly now.
@AnimeRPGFreakKenny3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Milotic with Marvel Scale! Gets X status effect. Shakes off X status effect so you wouldn't worry. :heart: You son of a b-