Polestar 4 arrives in the U.S starting at $54,900 - better than a Model Y?

[@AlwaysLearningStuff]

Definitely agree it's more premium. The interior is nicer and it has features such as drivers screen and indicator stalk. The Tesla looks cheap inside.

[@skimonkey5855]

i'm okay with 10k over Tesla Y - which has very cheap interior

[@PierreDybman]

Just had the opportunity to drive a RWD Polestar 2 for one full day, it's a great car, nice interior in a subdued Scandinavian style. But much better perceived quality than a Tesla 3, better handling, lower road noise, understandable easy controls. More expensive but not by too much...and it's a hatchback, which is important in Europe

[@ChrisHobson916]

Really? I rode in a polestar 2 and I was very disappointed. Felt like a Corolla or Camry.

[@wonderboy75]

I traded my 2021 TM3 for a 2024 LRDM PS2 with plus and pilot. I have only had it for 3 months, but I can say for sure I would never go back to a Tesla. This is so much better to drive, better quality and in fact better "tech". Tesla is low quality and lots of gimmicky features. It was also way more noise.

[@PierreDybman]

@@ChrisHobson916 Where are you based? The EU models drive much better than the Tesla 3, more refined, better interior, a hatchback, I mean at the same price point I wouldn't hesitate a second.

[@hakonpettersen4140]

Polestars are pretty good. But the P2 is so small inside.

[@jogana6909]

I like Polestar

[@thomasuher4507]

I bought a used Polestar 2 and it‘s the best car I ever owned. Great build quality. Many parts are Volvo parts. I also like the Tesla Model 3, but chose the PS because you can use Volvos Service Network in Europe and because of the much nicer interior.

[@andreasl4507]

Facts. Got the polestar 2 also. Orderd my P4 ❤

[@yslee1401]

Polestars is 100% Geely parts

[@wonderboy75]

and you can also charge on Teslas chargers in the EU (not that there is a lack of options in Norway). I saw that this summer they will be able to charge on Teslas superchargers in the US as well.

[@daveykay4503]

If you think it’s too expensive, look for the Zeekr 001. Same car (also Geely) but cheaper. And - IMHO - nicer and even more luxuous.

[@andreasl4507]

Polestar isn’t supposed to be a mass production sale car brand either it’s more for the class people with money. Not ordinary people

[@Blessedmantoday]

Nice to see Polestar continues making good looking cars

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

Honestly, except for the price, I would not classify any Tesla as being a luxury car. That interior is just way Way _WAY_ too sparse to be considered "luxury". Technologically advanced? Sure. But luxurious? Not a chance.

[@andreasl4507]

It’s verry luxurious if you compare to Tesla.

[@briancaos]

The interior of Polestar, and the work they have done to the chassis and suspension caters to the few who wants more than just nice transportation. A wise choice given you cannot compete with Tesla on range/features/price. The driving experience of a Tesla Model Y is quite underwhelming, and the interior lacks pizzazz. This is by design, I'm quite sure, as Tesla caters to buyers who are not into driving at all. I think the Polestar 2 competes with Audi Q8 Etron, Mercedes EQE, Lexus RZ and Cadillac Lyriq. And in that segment, the price is not far off. Well done, Polestar.

[@hakonpettersen4140]

Into driving? Cars are just a means of transportation. Im just fine with Tesla, which has the best tech

[@jayem8981]

@@hakonpettersen4140Yea, that may be the case for you and the average person, but there are always exceptional people who don’t want to drive a generic appliance.

[@yslee1401]

@@hakonpettersen4140 never Chinese cars. Huawei and ZTE are banned for a good reason

[@johnmason5626]

I have the MY24 P2 PPP. Its a great handling car, premium quality interior and very strong performance from the 469bhp. I'm really interested in the P4 for my nest car unless the Zeeker 001 is available in the UK by then

[@andreasl4507]

Already orderd my P4 in Uk. Hope see you in the P4 soon

[@ronin4580]

$14,000 more than a dual motor MYLR (not including the EV tax credit), apples to oranges.

[@tireddad6541]

That is a lot.

[@Polestar_143]

Polestars are overpriced and not as luxury or sporty as they trying to sell them

[@davidcottrell570]

But that’s for the current model, not the Performance. The refreshed Y might be closer for apples to apples.

[@ronin4580]

@@davidcottrell570Not IMHO. Polestar luxury bias, Tesla engineering bias.

[@gregp.7148]

Polestar 4 is looking great.

[@nimbuskhannk627]

I love it how design is underplayed in these Polestar vs. Tesla comparasions. I understand... If the conversation was fair and frank, it would sound like comparing a Cherner chair vs. an Ikea one.

[@marcnicolle4052]

We have a Polestar 2 and it is exceptional in performance, feel, quality and design. Our next car will be certainly the 4. But not for a fee year's yet

[@andders2477]

Very nice looking, but expensive in AWD, think the RWD will sell well in scandinavia.

[@havencat9337]

the look of it its really good! and seeing in real life the older version...i am certain this one will also be quality!

[@andreasl4507]

Been a lot of work on it! It’s way better saw one last week up in north Sweden. What a master piece

[@suvann540i]

Gold badging? What are you talking about. Just the belts and brakes are gold on the performance pack.

[@andreasl4507]

You will see soon. Relax

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Holy crap I just passed one of these on the road and wondered what the hell it was! Nice design!

[@windowman9665]

No you didn’t, they arnt out yet. Unless your in China 🇨🇳

[@andreasl4507]

@@windowman9665they are driving in Sweden seen it many times last months up in north Sweden. Seen it in Gothenburg and Stockholm also. Saw it first in north Swedish snow storm this wiinter they do all work on the cars in Sweden. Only production in china.

[@yslee1401]

CNY0.50 in your WeChat Pay account

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Yeah I meant a Polestar 2. They’re really nice and unique looking in person.

[@yslee1401]

@@windowman9665 these are little pink CNY0.50 cyber troopers

[@troyfall6573]

The Polestar 4 is a beautiful vehicle but I would bre concerned that it has such a large battery but not more range than a Model Y. That extra weight is going to burn up the tires quicker. Tesla is doing everything they can to reduce weight and improve efficiency which seems the smarter strategy. My next vehicle will probably be a refreshed Model Y when it comes out.

[@andreasl4507]

Relax faq. Rich class people don’t give a fuk about some cheap as tires. Cmon man. This car isn’t for the broke.

[@yojoe4830]

But by doing everything they can to make the car lighter, Tesla made a cheap, badly built EV. Tire wear isn't a huge issue for people spending this money.

[@troyfall6573]

@@yojoe4830 No, they are not cheaply made. They have excellent engineering and the 4 highest rated vehicles for safety ever recorded. Engineers who have torn down Teslas have stated they are way ahead of anything that has been produced in the past. You are just repeating false information.

[@yojoe4830]

@@troyfall6573 Yes, they ARE cheaply made, or maybe just badly made. Each model has quality issues that have taken forever, or never, solved. Safety is something many cars have and have the same 5 star level...that doesn't mean they're well built, or don't have trucks that leak, etc. You're just angry because I stated facts. That's your issue, not mine. For you to say, or even HINT, that all bad reports about Tesla are 'false' while blindly believing shills for Tesla is beyond hypocritical.

[@wonderboy75]

I had a Tesla Model 3 and it was in service 17 times in less than 3 years because of the quality issues it had. Never going back to Tesla.

[@PatrickKavanagh-cc3fw]

A much better looking car that any tesla. Maybe tesla should poach it's designers. Some things it gives as standard. Indicator stalk. Driver display.

[@Cali-p1k]

Beautiful car!

[@PD55_]

Marketing talk is cheap. Let the global competition begin, let's see what automakers actually deliver. Everyday drivers will pick the winners.

[@andreasl4507]

Polestar isn’t for broke people and that is about 70% of the people that is in the car market for a new car.

[@PD55_]

@@andreasl4507 As someone who has owned Volvos and Audis, expensive does not necessarily translate into quality.

[@yojoe4830]

"Winner" meaning "One they can afford"?

[@mho0]

@@PD55_ I have also have both Audis and Volvos and they have been very good quality.

[@yslee1401]

@@andreasl4507 polestar is just a Geely under the skin. A Chinese branded car potentially baked with spyware like ZTE and Huawei

[@markuc]

Saw the #4 at the electrify everything show, it is gorgeous.

[@iSot80]

Tesla cars or Model Y is not luxury car. It is more than like Toyota category (basic good ev-car) what means good but nothing special. Tesla's main idea is to make cars as cheap as possible. Nothing wrong about that but it is not a luxury ev-brand.. End of the story,

[@andreasl4507]

Facts but most people call it luxurious

[@iSot80]

@@andreasl4507 Yeps.

[@hakonpettersen4140]

Spot on. Tesla is not luxurious, but they have the best tech

[@mho0]

@@hakonpettersen4140 It also a bit depends what you mean by tech. Like electric motors are pretty good (not best but pretty good). Infotainment is technically great and fast (that said usability maybe not the best). Mobile app is great! Driving dynamics / comfort tech at low level (=you have either one and not both and on slippery roads ESP gets crazy). Lights / wipers / phantom breaking ... some basic stuff still does not work that well.

[@jonathanthomas7228]

Idk where you're getting your info from, because the 4 isn't available in the USA yet... Yes, you can place your deposit, but you cant own or lease one yet. I've seen several of your videos in the past. I like your content and you seem like a nice guy. Not trying to be a douche by calling you out. Tbh, I'm jealous that Aus, UK, and CN get the P4 before the US.

[@gregp.7148]

Nice, so about 2 hours north-east of Sydney. I did remember from one of your videos that you moved from Melbourne, but not where to.

[@todddowney45]

NICE CAR . LOOKS SHARP ' MUCH NICER THAN MOST .

[@chrisborns5972]

Sweet blackberry with chrome trim

[@ctuna2011]

Model Y LR now around 50k but there is still the 7500 fed discount. Plus now the self driving is getting good. Plus the software support on a Y and the self driving possibility .

[@wonderboy75]

The FSD costs 12k usd and all you get is the joy of watching the car drive you around like an insecure teenager with a driving permit, while you sit ready to take over at any time so it doesn't dent your car or potentially kill you. Sure the tech is impressive as a tech demo, but it will never be able to drive your kids to school.

[@chrisduffill5248]

I think the car would be on the cusp of competition and will have to offer some of the packs as part of the standard system, competition will drive this

[@andreasl4507]

A lot of it is in the standard option. But the car is for the people that can afford real options

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

Looks nice.

[@marcsimmonds5483]

And way more expensive. So make your choice.

[@andreasl4507]

More expensive becouse it aint a mass production car brand. The polestar is for the special people the rich class

[@frankmoore159]

Polestar 4 rocks great quality have a person I know who windowtints and wraps says Tesla no where near polestar quality gap’s interior parts here’s the proof in the pudding the client s complain about the Tesla no complaints about the polestar 2 I’m sure 3&4 are too

[@mho0]

No point to compare Polestar and Tesla. Polestar is luxory and pretty good quality car and Tesla is built as cheap as possible and pretty low quality.

[@kaziez]

Very nice. Hard to pay that price for that range. Feels like paying to wait. Waiting in luxury yes, but waiting still. I kind of expect these luxury cars to push the boundary on range rather than just just meet the minimum bar.

[@baosw]

Polestar is part of the Ev future ❤🎉

[@tonyhove981]

If Polestar still puts essential things like adaptive cruise control in optional packages then add at least $10k to the stated price to bring it up to spec 😊

[@suvann540i]

ACC is a default option.

[@andreasl4507]

It’s a default option !!

[@wonderboy75]

Only autosteering is extra (pilot pack).

[@vittomurner3467]

Hey I used to live in Newcastle when I was a youngin 😊

[@denault3985]

To me the Polestar 4 looks much better then the Tesla Y (which is an everyday EV in my neighborhood). Their ugly and nothing special.... I much prefer the Rivian to anything currently avaiable

[@kamingcloud2880]

Love this very stylish luxurious car !!! Looks Awesome !!! 😍💖💯👍🔋🌞🌏✌️

[@electricviking]

Glad you like it!

[@lukhanyokongisa8798]

Tech and safety ratings is the new luxury

[@robertfonovic3551]

No it's not.

[@andreasl4507]

@@robertfonovic3551tyes

[@DwainDwight]

great car, looks amazing too, but pricey. and that will be it's problem. it's $10k or so too much. also no tax credit.

[@glennm5079]

Hello from Newcastle NSW!!!!

[@electricviking]

Hello there!

[@boenill]

The Polestar 4 is maybe more a competitiors to the even more expensive new Audi Q6?😳 Haven't had the opportunity to drive none of them, but have sitten in the Polestar 4. Nice interior and little of the cheap plastic compared to Audi's cars in the last years. But I'm curious to upcoming Model Y juniper!? Will it be just as good (ore perhaps bether) than the new M3?😳 Then I think it will have the oportunity to be comared with them both to a price that none can compite.😉

[@calebg.9662]

Sorry I'm new to this channel, has there been any Adam Copeland jokes?

[@robertfonovic3551]

Just go back and watch all of his posts. Should only take you a yr or so.

[@davidcorbett644]

Good looking car but price and option packs are all wrong. Also mixed messaging from Polestar. They want model y like sales hence the comparison but price it in such a way they highlight the lack of value on offer. Bad strategy guys, going to fail imho.

[@icosthop9998]

They are doubling down on stupid.

[@st4rbuk]

They are trying to compete with Porsche.

[@davidcorbett644]

@@st4rbukmight be right. What would you buy if you had the cash and the inclination? Probably Porsche.

[@davidcottrell570]

I don’t believe Polestar is trying to go mass market, rather premium sports sedan, like BMW perhaps. Porsche are different. They don’t believe in speed limiters, so it’s Z rated tires and the bills to match. They’re famous for their reliability but don’t believe in regeneration/one-pedal drive. Then there’s the cost and the options list. I like them, but I’d never want one.

[@andreasl4507]

They don’t want teslas sale numbers. Wake up. The car is for the rich class people not ordinary broke people.

[@nicholasglade4572]

Just another ev with a curved back end that is not practical. As soon as somebody comes out with a cheap to mid-priced pickup of a squared off back end SUV that I can use to go to Home Depot and buy outdoor furniture or other bulky items I will buy an ev. Can you imagine if Tesla came out with a regular mid priced pickup that they could mass produce right away?

[@kevinhirst911]

Please go to the Nacs Polestar.. what a remarkable looking Car.

[@suvann540i]

2025 models will be shipped with NACS. Adapters are coming in July for everyone who owns a polestar also.

[@yojoe4830]

Yes, Polestar is better than any Tesla.

[@larzlarz1140]

No thanks. Still a sedan, not an suv. Efficiency is bad compared to the taller model Y. Range is lower. Price is a lot higher.

[@andreasl4507]

Efficiency is bad??? Polestar 4 and 3 is 580 km up in north Sweden with snow storms. Wake up. The car is supposed to be a class between sedan and suv becouse the Polestar 3 is there suv. Polestar 2 is sedan and the polestar 4 is a class beetwen

[@larzlarz1140]

@@andreasl4507 AWD long range polestar 4 has 270 miles range with 102 kwh battery. AWD Model Y long range has 310 mile range with 82 kwh battery. Quick math says the model Y is 39% more efficient than the polestar 4.

[@StormyDog]

Personally think someone would have to be very rich (not care about value) or very ignorant to buy the Polestar over the Model Y.

[@icosthop9998]

. 👍

[@ruisantos8291]

Not very rich, just “normal” rich. Very rich people buy a Rolls Royce!

[@justinr9753]

They did guarantee the top of the line Polestar 3 would hold a whole 36.5 percent of is value after 4 years 60,000km but since changed their mind

[@davidcottrell570]

The current (and outgoing) model Y is a bargain. How much a new model Y performance will be when the P4 comes out will be interesting. I’ve a feeling that a P4 performance is going to get some great reviews, so I’m sure Tesla is going to be taking this car very seriously.

[@suvann540i]

I'm not very rich, definitely not ignorant. But I have eyes and the PS4 is a gorgeous car inside and out. I don't get cars for their utility, I get what I love to look at and drive. These days Teslas are everywhere. I don't want to wake up to one. Lol.

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

I saw it yesterday at the NY auto show. It is more stylish and premium than a Model Y. For me, that's not even a question. All Polestars are beautiful. Besides it being a Chinese car, which makes it a nonstarter for me, the issue I had with this car is that the interior is very cavelike. The lack of a rear window makes the interior very dark and uninviting.

[@yslee1401]

My biggest worrying being a Chinese car it’s spyware

[@mackan7086]

Dark despite a full glass roof?

[@andreasl4507]

@@yslee1401spy on normal geeks that have nothing special in life don’t be scared of that. Polestar do all the work in Sweden only producing the car in china.

[@andreasl4507]

It’s nice when dark in the car. And the camera back is perfect. ❤

[@mackan7086]

@@yslee1401 and yet, the ones been caught spying the most is the USA.

[@gregp.7148]

You can pick up a used 2022 Tesla Model Y AWD for only $31k USD with only about 20-30k mileage.

[@ChrisHobson916]

If it's anything like the polestar I rode in on an Uber ride last month, it's nowhere close to as nice as my early model3

[@MarksElectricLife]

Guess it depends how much you hate Elon. If your hateometer is showing $20K then you would buy this car.

[@yslee1401]

Being a Chinese branded car, it resale value would tank rapidly

[@icosthop9998]

What are you talking about 😮 I would love to be able to say I have Mighty Viking Heritage 🗡 ⚔️ 🗡

[@yslee1401]

It’s a rebadged Geely

[@andreasl4507]

@@yslee1401 The polestar company does all work in Sweden with Volvo. My dad work at Volvo in Gothenburg and polestar is in the same building they work together on almost everything also got the same work place up in north Sweden with there own lake where all testing is Done. You all gotta realax. The only thing about polestar company is that they got a chines company that own them and then polestar use there production in china.

[@donaldduck5731]

Better than a Porsche Macan 4 Electric?

[@andreasl4507]

It is I canceled the Mecan 4 order when I saw this car driving up in north Sweden on Volvos lake up there. Crazy car and a master piece

[@davidcottrell570]

A lot more money even for the 402hp 4.

[@fryske.tynster]

when wil we see the new xiaomi?

[@Pinakij]

I had girlfriend that was a pole star

[@andreasl4507]

Now we are two

[@stvybaby]

PoleStar profitability has not been attained and Volvo seems to be seperating itself from their sister company. Go PoleStar, go. 😊

[@suvann540i]

Polestar broke even last year. They're on the upward slope. They don't need to be tied to volvo anymore. Geely has finally let them loose.

[@davidblanchard6785]

Polestar blows away the y in looks, design no comparison. The y is the ugly duckling in the tesla lineup, y needs a serious upgrade especially with the highland update

[@antonio_fosnjar]

Technically everyone is more luxurious than Tesla, but noone has profitable EVs or such a good experience of use. It's something like Apple and Android situation, a lot of Android phones are better than iPhones spec wise, but people still choose iPhones because of the software, integration and experience.

[@sunnyd6291]

It's like the the S23 ultra was a much better phone than the ip15pm but people still buy the dull iPhone ,and s24u is so much better it's ridiculous

[@antonio_fosnjar]

@sunnyd6291 Depends, cameras, battery and chip are a tiny bit better on the iPhone and it's slightly cheaper. But you get much more features on the android which makes it a bit more confusing for non tech users. The ease of use with the IOS is definitely the reason so many people choose Apple, and most of the time everything just works, sometimes it's literally like magic. They can make this experience because they make the hardware and the software which makes this comparison with Tesla even more true. I'm personally an Android user. I like to have the freedom to do stuff on my phone but almost everyone I know doesn't really care about any of that stuff, they just want a good reliable phone (or a car) that'll do as advertised without hassle.

[@andreasl4507]

Profitable is Tesla only becouse they mass produce cars and drop prices all the time. Polestar is for class people with money. Not cheap broke people

[@rdk3996]

$15K more, maybe it should be better in some ways…?

[@erolakal527]

Give me a hybrid civic I'm good for the next ten years 🎉

[@adrientucker5949]

I like the car but it's definitely too expensive for me

[@andreasl4507]

For sure the car is only for the rich class people that want a car that not everyone have

[@jasoncork9661]

Pity their charging network isn’t as luxurious as Tesla’s.

[@wonderboy75]

They can use Tesla chargers in Europe and in the US later this summer. They even added Tesla chargers to their plugsurf app.

[@jasoncork9661]

But you will have to pay more per KWH than a Tesla does on the Tesla network.

[@wonderboy75]

@@jasoncork9661 sure, not really a problem. If you only charge on road trips, the extra cost isn't a big deal. Tesla also sell a subscription I think, so you get a lower rate. Good for frequent charging. Might also be included in the Polestar plugsurf subscription, not entirely sure.

[@mho0]

Charging network might be an issue somewhere else than in Nordics. A lot of charging stations from multiple vendors .... Tesla SC is actually minority, but all cars can use them also anyway.

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

4:11 u gotta say that Tesla lies about their range figures tho. Otehr brands come way closer. Tesla never reach what they say

[@douglaswatt1582]

Hey genius it's actually the EPA testing cycle that's to blame. That was recently changed and since you don't pay attention to these things, but if you did you would notice that in fact the range estimates have come down despite the fact that the vehicle is more efficient, suggesting that the range estimates are now much more accurate. Get educated and stop spreading FUD.

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

@@douglaswatt1582 I’m just looking at real world test made by normal people and not at the numbers gave by the manufacturer. U should do that too and stop believing everything that Tesla says cuz they lie a lot. ur not a child anymore, it’s about time u grow up

[@mho0]

@@douglaswatt1582 I do not remember the details from one long article about how to do EPA test, but Tesla does all the tricks to get best possible EPA rating. Others clearly not.

[@ronin4580]

"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable" (Boris the Blade).

[@icosthop9998]

The law enforcement that is chasing you will have a harder time trying to do a *"Pit Maneuver"* when your car is extra heavy. 👍

[@lordfluxington]

If Volvo and Polestar don't like each other, who actually services Polestars in Australia?

[@davidcottrell570]

There’s a lot of speculation about this. Volvo and Polestar share the same campus in Gothenburg for their headquarters, and the same factory for the EX90/Polestar 3. What are the chances that the boards of Polestar, Volvo and Geely reached a decision? A number of people sit on all 3. Volvo is transitioning to all electric by 2030, Polestar only builds electric now and Geely is the common bond. No idea who has the service contract, but Polestar has their own spaces and service centres. Australia may also allow service by accredited Volvo dealerships - that varies. You should check if you’re interested. They do share the same VIDA diagnostic platform and Android interface.

[@yslee1401]

Volvo, Polestar & Proton are all under the Geely badge

[@andreasl4507]

@@davidcottrell570you serve the car and do all work with Volvo. Volvo and polestar is basically the work. Here in Sweden at least of course the company’s like each other and work tough

[@andreasl4507]

Volvo and polestar like each other for ever. They do allot of work together in Sweden where everything is getting done

[@davidcottrell570]

@@andreasl4507 I wish it was that simple. Maybe the help desk was confused, but I called in Canada, and right now you have to take the car to the Polestar centre, which is a ferry ride away from us. When the P2 came out, my Volvo dealer was the service centre. Hopefully they will sort this out. They need mobile service and Volvo dealer support IMO. While Scandinavia is big, Canada is truly vast. A lot of provinces have only a few dealers and no Polestar spaces. It’s going to take time I suppose. Really like the new cars but out of caution I’m keeping my Volvo.

[@Secondwind2010]

Teals is better ❤

[@icosthop9998]

Agree

[@BracaPhoto]

Did Cadillac used to own the name Polestar ?

[@vittomurner3467]

Was it Volvo I might be wrong

[@MrGMawson2438]

Its ok cheers mate

[@DavidCowsert-u5i]

50k is too expensive for any vehicle. People paying 50k for a car is stupid because cars are the fastest depreciating asset!

[@thyristo]

Sam staying silent about Xiaomi's SU7...

[@andreasl4507]

It’s bad that’s why

[@grndzro777]

They've priced themselves out of the market.

[@andreasl4507]

Becouse the car isn’t for the broke people.

[@grndzro777]

@@andreasl4507 No idea what their overhead is but they lost 1.2B last year. VW pulled it's backing. If they cant compete on price then the company is going to fail just like every other company that doesn't have value offerings. People are done getting gouged on price.

[@yslee1401]

Another Geely in disguise

[@andreasl4507]

The polestar company does all work in Sweden with Volvo. My dad work at Volvo in Gothenburg and polestar is in the same building they work together on almost everything also got the same work place up in north Sweden with there own lake where all testing is Done. You all gotta realax. The only thing about polestar company is that they got a chines company that own them and then polestar use there production in china.

[@yslee1401]

@@andreasl4507 well, the control of Polestar/Volvo is still from the People’s Republic of China

[@jonassamme1889]

You got something to say about the Vikings Abo? Swede living abroad. Jokes aside, Polestar is not going to survive the next few years viking heritage or not.

[@yslee1401]

It’s a Geely under the skin

[@andreasl4507]

The polestar company does all work in Sweden with Volvo. My dad work at Volvo in Gothenburg and polestar is in the same building they work together on almost everything also got the same work place up in north Sweden with there own lake where all testing is Done. You all gotta realax. The only thing about polestar company is that they got a chines company that own them and then polestar use there production in china.

[@yslee1401]

@@andreasl4507 that is precisely the biggest and primary concern. Chinese manufacturing means that the likes of Huawei and ZTE can bake in spyware into its infotainment & navigation systems

[@HeyErnie007]

If I can say anything about Polestar, I don't think anyone whose cross shopping a Mercedes, Audi, or BMW is going to give one look at Polestar. Firstly, Polestar does not have the build quality or interior quality as Mercedes, Audi, or BMW. Just get in a Volvo and then get in an Audi and you'll know why the Audi costs more. I think Polestar is attempting to be a competitor to Porsche, but the truth of the matter is they don't have the design language, the heritage, or the engineering capability to rival Porsche. The Macan EV starts at around $80,000 and if I had to bet which will sell better, the Macan EV or the Polestar 4, my money is on the Macan, because anyone whose in the market to buy a luxury sports car is going to buy a Porsche. I know this because I have friends who own Porsches and when they saw the Macan EV they signed up to buy one. There's no rear window, which anyone whose buying a luxury car will look at and think "why would I buy this?" The trunk space is not great, the ergonomics are not great in the rear seat as the headroom is bad. It's objectively a bad car and if I had to bet whether this will be a success or a failure, my money is on this being a flop.

[@andreasl4507]

Grow up man. The polestar car is better than all of them.

[@andreasl4507]

You don’t know nothing about the car and I see it in your text nothing you just wrote make any sens

[@yslee1401]

Polestar is already a flop. Once the public is aware that it’s Essentially a Geely, they would just stop buying it

[@HeyErnie007]

@@andreasl4507 well given how bad your english is I can only assume you also don't know what you're talking about, because I've been to Manhattan Polestar, test drove Polestars, and I am saying with a great amount of confidence, they're not at the same level as Audi, BMW, or Mercedes. Look at the Polestar 2's interior and how cramped it is compared to the Model 3. While it was a design choice, it wasn't a great one. The material quality just isn't on the same level, as most Chinese manufacturers are not competition on the same level of quality as Audi, Mercedes, or BMW. I know this because I visited China.

[@HeyErnie007]

@@yslee1401 I think there are some choices Polestar is making that are great, but when it comes to the Polestar 4 in particular, it costs too much, its design is not going to work for most buyers, and when people cross shop it against an Audi Q6 E Tron or Porsche Macan EV, they're going to get the Audi or Porsche. The technology of the Audi and Porsche are better, the ride quality will be better, everything objectively speaking will be better. Which pits the question, whose going to buy the Polestar 4? It's not priced to compete with the Model Y and on the luxury end of things it's not a luxury vehicle.

[@dguy321]

Nice car. Too expensive.

[@marcuspettersson9707]

Viking=Triad

[@yslee1401]

It’s a Chinese branded car. So it’s a Triad

[@andreasl4507]

@@yslee1401 The polestar company does all work in Sweden with Volvo. My dad work at Volvo in Gothenburg and polestar is in the same building they work together on almost everything also got the same work place up in north Sweden with there own lake where all testing is Done. You all gotta realax. The only thing about polestar company is that they got a chines company that own them and then polestar use there production in china.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Tesla still does not match its EPA, but Polestar is closer, so let's hold out till we get real range tests, I am optimistic.

[@icosthop9998]

​@ev.whyking L😂L TY

[@MrGMawson2438]

Polestar 😆

[@TrumanBurbankFE]

Geely is gonna fold Polestar and let Volvo handle all EVs from now on.

[@andreasl4507]

Not possible. Polestar got 1 bilion in their own company. Do your research before speaking.

[@obione5532]

Tesla manage to produce everything so now can offers cheaper cars and way better performance. Polestar looks great and it is a good ev but if you can buy a model Y cheaper then there you go and finally welcome to competition.

[@t.webner2466]

Who can afford these prices? I can't!

[@13thbiosphere]

Anyone in the top 5%

[@andreasl4507]

@@13thbiospheretop 40% for sure and probably top 50% for sure.

[@icosthop9998]

I guess this "thing" sells good every where but in America.

[@erolakal527]

Where are the under 30 G cars? Not that I can't afford these expensive cars, i don't need them 🤬.

[@jeremysomeone]

A refrigerator is more luxurious than a Tesla.

[@reggiemorgan6121]

68000 euro here in Ireland.…

[@yslee1401]

For a Chinese BEV? No way Jose

[@andreasl4507]

@@yslee1401 The polestar company does all work in Sweden with Volvo. My dad work at Volvo in Gothenburg and polestar is in the same building they work together on almost everything also got the same work place up in north Sweden with there own lake where all testing is Done. You all gotta realax. The only thing about polestar company is that they got a chines company that own them and then polestar use there production in china.

[@zytuben]

Does it have Teslas software? No? Guess it's not better then.

[@adrientucker5949]

I'm sure some Vikings were stand-up mates like yourself. No one can take that away from you. The fact that you're Australian though.... 😅

[@icosthop9998]

L😂L

[@windowman9665]

Uh ya. Duh. It’s way more luxurious than any Tesla. Even the “best” Tesla model s doesn’t feel very luxurious. I’m getting the polestar 3. I’ve sat in jt and wow. It’s way better then any Tesla

[@justinr9753]

They used to have a guarantee that top of the line Polestar would hold 36.5 percent of purchase price after 4 years 60,000 km but they quietly removed it. Maybe but some of their stock to help recoup some of the depreciation?

[@andreasl4507]

Good option man. Driving the polestar 3 off road in Gothenburg and also on track there. You gonna love it trust me. I have ordered a Polestar 4 but probebly gonna lease the polestar 3 until I get my polestar 4.

[@andreasl4507]

@@justinr9753they haven’t removed it they just deleted it. But it’s still around. It’s the same with Polestar 2 and that have worked out great. Mine is only down 10% in price in 3 years

[@firstbigbarney]

Too many packages and options, Just give us the car with reasonable options and not a lot of BS...

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

Too many? There’s 4 packages. And u need maybe 2 packages. Like it’s pretty easy, yall just slow

[@alanbaker8354]

Sam you should be proud of your heritage. Vikings were amazing explorers far far ahead of their time👍🏻

[@icosthop9998]

I agree I love to say I have Viking Heritage 🗡 ⚔️ 🗡

[@robertfonovic3551]

So you approve of invaders who were thieves, kidnappers and rapists? Nice.😅😅😅

[@13thbiosphere]

Eventually they became Christians wonder why that was something ......immense suffering

[@mimo5383]

Having a good long ponder. Tesla is the new minimum baseline entry into EV's. Solid value, build, software and common enough to park anywhere and not draw attention. Volvo is at a point that Tesla was years ago, prior to reaching volume sales, that enabled them to really start dropping prices. Its a nice looking product, but the value is out to lunch. To me Volvo is the image brand (to stand out from the endless sea of Tesla's) and for people that can't afford an apex luxury EV predator like a Lotus Eletre.

[@andreasl4507]

For sure. Finally some one with a brain

[@alexisperez4100]

Maybe so, but they are owned by Chinese company, so there is no way, I am going to buy any Volvos.

[@yslee1401]

100% agreed

[@andreasl4507]

Grow up man. The car company Volvo and polestar does all There work in Sweden only cars production is in china my dad work at Volvo. All leaders in Volvo and polestar is Swedish.

[@정큐오]

Mercedes major shareholder is beijing Automotive

[@JoePolaris]

w/Polestar , you need to go with Pilot and Performance package

[@j-joe-jeans]

No, you need the Plus and Pilot. (2x Polestar owner)

[@JoePolaris]

Thx for keeping honest. Cheers

[@j-joe-jeans]

@@JoePolaris Unless you are street dragging, track racing or live near the Autobahn, the power in new cars, especially EV's of this level give more than enough power for an average driver. Cheers and enjoy.

[@windowman9665]

I’m so tired of everyone thinking performance is hiw fast a vehicle goes from 0-100km. ITS NOT. Tesla fan boys LOVE how they can brag to their buddies about the super fast 0-100km. Who cares Any car around 4 seconds is plenty fast. It’s the cornering / handling / braking / suspension / dampening which makes a true performance luxury vehicle. That’s where polestars really gets it. It’s like the Mercedes AMG’s. It’s a step above the “normal” luxury vehicles

[@andreasl4507]

For sure. Finally I found some one with a brain in this comment section

[@mho0]

Agree :). BST driver...

[@michaelbedard7859]

There crazy. No point.

[@John-FourteenSix]

A German EV, so why not a Polestar. It reminds me of my old Saab 9000 Aero…

[@yslee1401]

It’s a Chinese branded BEV

[@andreasl4507]

@@yslee1401it’s not

[@andreasl4507]

@@yslee1401it’s Swedish branded car with a Chinese production

[@yslee1401]

@@andreasl4507 it’s like saying MG is a British branded car but Made in China. MG is 100% owned by SAIC from Shanghai

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hinduja. To build faster, cheaper, safer and most secure under the Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, potentially all premium EVs like Tata Jaguar Tesla Model Y, Volvo Polestar, Xiaomi Su7 could be built in India

[@davidhunternyc1]

You can't see out the bloody back window! That's hideous. Not only does it cut out natural daylight in the cabin but if forces you to look at more computer screens. It won't end. I normally feel bad if a car fails in the marketplace but I hope the Polestar 4 blows purple Twinkies.

[@andreasl4507]

It’s good with no back window. More safety for butting stuff in the trunk. No one can see into it

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@andreasl4507 "No one can see into it?" Might as well block all the windows.