Police Show Up To Your Door At 2AM (Must You Let Them In?)

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@NomadTrucker
@NomadTrucker 2 жыл бұрын
The term "officer safety" is one that I dislike the most. I believe my life/safety is just as important as anyone else's, including police. When police come in hot and do what they "feel" based on officer safety, it becomes a case of the cops life is more important then others.
@paulmarino8810
@paulmarino8810 2 жыл бұрын
It would be better "officer safety" if they dont come in.
@stillplayswithtrains1442
@stillplayswithtrains1442 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m 2 жыл бұрын
Police are an elite class of citizen . Obey peasant!!
@somewellingguy1937
@somewellingguy1937 2 жыл бұрын
Protect and serve means to protect and serve the people, not themselves
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 2 жыл бұрын
If they cared about their safety, they'd stop wantonly murdering, raping, and stealing or wouldn't have begun in the first place. Their lives are forfeit if they interact with me. My life, liberty, and property trump their lives, no question.
@mundanestuff
@mundanestuff 2 жыл бұрын
"They're just going to come back with a warrant and make it worse" is not a valid excuse to let them in. Neither is officer safety.
@THall-vi8cp
@THall-vi8cp 2 жыл бұрын
There is a big difference between _opening the door_ and _letting them in._
@CarolinaRimfire
@CarolinaRimfire 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly right. “Let me do whatever I want or I’ll make it way worse for you” is an abusive relationship, and if the majority of cops were good, they’d point this out too.
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 2 жыл бұрын
If they come back with a warrant they better have crossed every t and dotted every i or not only might I kill them but their families and even the judge.
@vantd1936
@vantd1936 2 жыл бұрын
@Juden Shekelberger jew obsessed?
@vantd1936
@vantd1936 2 жыл бұрын
@Juden Shekelberger you seem very desperate to be jewish
@joeveteran1776
@joeveteran1776 2 жыл бұрын
It's an all around dangerous situation. How many law abiiding gun owners would first arm themselves before checking their door at 2am? I know I do. What are the chances they say they are police officers and instead are home invaders. I don't approach my door at 2am defenseless Not a bad idea to dial 911, and verify that there are real officers outside.
@scoutndad1941
@scoutndad1941 2 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent point. I always go to arms and confirm everyone’s (wife, kids, guests) location. If they truly are law enforcement, I t would be worth the quick 911 call to confirm it. They would be in the know.
@matthewbartley2746
@matthewbartley2746 2 жыл бұрын
Through the door, acknowledge their presence and that way they know you're there and they have someone to speak to. Ask their identification, badges, names, and uniform. If your door has a peep hole then cool. Then let them know you will be calling dispatch to confirm if they would patiently wait for a moment while your call is on speaker phone. Then once confirmed politely apologize for the time taken if they don't give you a reason why they are there. Then proceed with caution and common sense.
@optimusprimer4392
@optimusprimer4392 2 жыл бұрын
They've been known to shoot people doing that
@falcon3719
@falcon3719 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let the police see your gun. They may start shooting. Talk thru the door, call 911, and remove that gun from the entrance, if you let them in.
@emil8366
@emil8366 2 жыл бұрын
Dial nine one one as confirmation always 🙄 I wish I could tell this to as many people as possible
@maryricketts7337
@maryricketts7337 2 жыл бұрын
This happened to me and my husband about 30 years ago. They woke us up at 2am with a phone call and asked my husband to step outside. There was a line of police cars out front. Each car had armed officers leaning over the hood with rifles aimed at our home. My husband went out shirtless with his hands up and learned that someone reported 40 rounds fired inside our home. It was snowing and there were no lights to be seen in our community. The officers kept insisting they wanted to come in and check things out, but my husband refused and asked for a warrant. It took quite a bit of talking to convince them it was a false report and we weren’t letting them in.
@stormpusztay610
@stormpusztay610 11 ай бұрын
Doesn't it seem to you that they found you guilty even though nothing was wrong...
@kenkneram4819
@kenkneram4819 2 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who used to be a cop. They lie and engineer "exigent circumstances" all the time. He told me a story about a time when he and his partner looked at each other and said "do you smell gas?" "yeah I smell gas let's go in." They kicked in the door and had their way with the guy inside. No granted according to the story they found exactly what they were expecting to find which was somebody called a "chicken hawk?" (Apparently that somebody that likes to torture children to death.) He also told me that the guy "fell" out of their squad car 32 times on what should have been a two block ride. (I think that meant that they killed him.) So they violated the guys rights by entering without a warrant after pretending to smell of gas leak, then they pretty much murdered the guy. Now granted the guy was guilty of precisely what they thought that he was guilty of. But somehow I just don't feel that makes what they did right. What's this person a monster who needed to be put down? Maybe. Did these guys as police officers have the right to do so or the right to do so in the way that they did? Absolutely not. The law enforcement can't do their jobs without breaking the law then they're no better than the criminals that they're supposed to protect us from. (And in many cases they're worse) Society has rules for a reason. Secondly start allowing certain "select" members of society to live by a different set of rules then we destroy the very fabric of society and so the seeds of tyranny.
@John-tx1wk
@John-tx1wk 2 жыл бұрын
Former LEO and father of a current LEO here. I will likely talk to them but I'm not opening my door to the police any time of the day. If they want in, they need to bring a warrant.
@Old_Sailor85
@Old_Sailor85 2 жыл бұрын
Roger, that!
@godzilla7148
@godzilla7148 2 жыл бұрын
Sound Advice!!!!
@ZekeRivers
@ZekeRivers 2 жыл бұрын
I don't recognize 'blanket warrants' either. If they insist, there will be a battle.
@godzilla7148
@godzilla7148 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasryan2679 You know what you are when you make assumptions???
@John-tx1wk
@John-tx1wk 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasryan2679 Patrol deputy in a very rural county in North Carolina. I responded to many, many 911 calls running the gamut from homicide, DV, AWDW, SA, etc all the way down to farm animals in the road. I also did CPS checks and served more than a few warrants. Now what?
@Supperconductor
@Supperconductor 2 жыл бұрын
The frustrating thing about this topic/conversations is that it is a ONE WAY STREET. As a civilian, I'm the one that has to be careful with abundance of caution with the possibility of losing my freedom or life. The police have far more power and therefore should have far greater responsibility and accountability. Their lawyers are paid for by my tax dollars and I have to pay for my own representation on top of that. I think you guys really missed the boat on this. I have been disrespected and threatened by law enforcement and assumed to be a criminal on my way home from college - which is in a really horrible hood. I have had my door pounded on even in decent area - demanding I allow access without a warrant. This is NOT how it's supposed to be. I'm happy to cooperate when dealt with in a PROFESSIONAL manner. Even after all this I do support the police and all they do for us, but come on, we need to expect better conduct - there's SO MANY examples of cops acting unprofessionally all over youtube. Body worn cameras are finally exposing what's really going on yet we still see bad conduct or worse - cameras that are erased or turned off.
@nicolathonathan770
@nicolathonathan770 2 жыл бұрын
Accountability is what’s missing in this country. Many those cops unprofessional behaviors would result in immediate termination without retirement.
@alfre4554
@alfre4554 2 жыл бұрын
If an individual is not active duty military, there are a civilian. Ie, cops.
@stillplayswithtrains1442
@stillplayswithtrains1442 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed I have been harassed by the cops and had done nothing.
@Cantfindahable
@Cantfindahable 2 жыл бұрын
He’ll they erased my cameras!
@Persister45178
@Persister45178 2 жыл бұрын
Good comments. We must keep in mind the fact that, more than ever, governance officials are hiring thugs. And they are pushing out men and women with "Peace Officer" thinking. This needs to stop. I believe good people are being pushed against the wall, and something's going to give. Good people, the ones who don't riot and burn, must have the opportunity to live a life that is reasonably safe. Even in good times, there was always "The 1%" to be concerned about. But with our changing culture, in western nations, that 1% is now more like "The 40%." Stay AWARE, and stay SAFE!
@1anthonybrowning
@1anthonybrowning 2 жыл бұрын
A video doorbell system allows the resident to converse with the officers outside without opening the door. Might be a good idea.
@geronimo67
@geronimo67 2 жыл бұрын
Yes siree. I'll be getting one those soon.
@largo5348
@largo5348 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea!
@jamesmcclane9333
@jamesmcclane9333 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I use both front and rear doors.
@bobthompson4133
@bobthompson4133 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the camera doesn’t have internet access.
@geronimo67
@geronimo67 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobthompson4133 All of my cameras have internet access.
@sgt.guardsman2221
@sgt.guardsman2221 Жыл бұрын
I had this situation happen about 12 years ago. My local PD was looking for someone that my neighbor saw run down my driveway. But when they arrived all they did was knock on the door and shine their flashlights into my house. Mind you it was the middle of July and 80 degrees out. It was 01:10 in the morning. They proceeded to go from the front of the house, to the back of the house and then back to the front. When they were at the back of the house they slowly opened a door, then realized it was a Bad idea. They slowly closed it and headed to the front. Not once did they announce who they were. Upon the second time coming to the front of the house I got there first with my 460 S&W. I stood just out of sight by the front door. They knocked again and "asked if anyone was home and to come to the door". I said nothing. They them announced..."If no one answers we are coming in!!". I then told them "I will Blow your Asses away come on!!" At that moment they QUICKLY....announced "Holly PD....HOLD YOUR FIRE!! I told them to "prove it and step into the light slowly to be identified". They step slowly forward so I could see badges and uniforms. Then they asked "Do you always answer your door with a gun"? I told them when Yes, when 2 Dumb Asses are beating on my doors and shinning lights in windows at 1 am.....I do!! Then they started back pedaling and explaining their actions. They stated that "they were checking to see if the individual "may" have entered my house". I told them "next time You need to identify yourselves to people or you may not have a good out come"!! I also told them "that how they did it was not smart or safe for them or me"!! The next day I went to the Station and had a discussion with the Sergeant and chief. They apologized and told me "they would look into it and next time they have them Identify themselves". I don't think anything came from it as I mentioned it several months later to another officer and they never heard about the situation.
@dutchboy9273
@dutchboy9273 2 жыл бұрын
Something else we should consider, what if the people yelling "Police, open up!" are NOT police? Yes, this has happened.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
It happens a lot. That's why if anyone comes banging on my door, and I didn't personally invite them to come, I'm not answering the door. I'm not talking to them through the door. I'm getting a rifle and going to a defensible location in my home in case whoever that is outside commits the crime of breaking and entering. If there's a warrant for my arrest, they will arrest me when I go outside to get my mail. That would be reasonable in a free society of laws, where the cops are interested in minimizing the risk to themselves and the public. I choose to believe that's what I'm living in. I'm not harming anyone so I don't know why there would be any arrest warrants or search warrants out on me, however. And if the police need to speak to me for some reason, I can't imagine why as I've not witnessed anything that needs their attention, they can speak to my lawyer instead. There is nothing at all that I have to say to the police in response, so my default position is to decline to speak.
@lars2894
@lars2894 11 ай бұрын
Pretty common incident. Always politely ask for full name + badge number, directly call your local PD and verify. If they won't let you do that legally you can tream them as any citivilian criminal trying to break and enter into your home.
@michaellewis9275
@michaellewis9275 2 жыл бұрын
I would never open the door to anyone at 2:00 AM !!!
@mikeh8228
@mikeh8228 2 жыл бұрын
Actually from 11 pm to 7 am!
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't open the door to anyone you didn't specifically invite over, regardless of time of day.
@creationfox9893
@creationfox9893 Жыл бұрын
AMEN.
@rickardone1219
@rickardone1219 Ай бұрын
I am 100% with you in that regard!
@auricgoldfinger8478
@auricgoldfinger8478 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend, a 59 years old salesman at the time, was approached on his front porch by 2 Lakeland, Florida officers after he mowed his overgrown neighbors yard. The neighbor said that he had trespassed. My friend tried to explain the situation that he had mowed this yard before, with no complaints. When seeing that the officers did not comprehend, he attempted to retreat into his house. They tased and clubbed him, fracturing his jaw and eye socket. He was eventually awarded damages. All for mowing a lawn.
@DMAneoth
@DMAneoth 2 жыл бұрын
That should teach him not to be a good neighbor!
@Chill-mm4pn
@Chill-mm4pn 2 жыл бұрын
@@DMAneoth I'm assuming be hadn't asked his neighbor beforehand. Crazy that someone would get upset over someone mowing their grass.
@eq1373
@eq1373 2 жыл бұрын
You guys really believe that story?
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 2 жыл бұрын
Retreating into his house was a stupid idea
@DMAneoth
@DMAneoth 2 жыл бұрын
@@eq1373 Of course we do: it’s on-line! Everyone knows the big techs moderators and fact checkers are never wrong. If it was it true they would delete it!
@edub6205
@edub6205 2 жыл бұрын
The best course of action: stay quiet and away from the door. Talking to police in most circumstances is a bad idea. You can't talk yourself out of an arrrest but you sure can talk yourself into one.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there is no advantage to talking to the cops in any circumstance. Even through a door. There's nothing special about sound waves going through a door that makes you immune to legal jeopardy. There is nothing a cop can tell you that he can't tell your lawyer. There is nothing a cop can inform you of at 2 AM that he can't tell your lawyer during business hours the next day, or put in a letter left in your mailbox.
@willbart1236
@willbart1236 Жыл бұрын
In a situation like that, I never give law-enforcement the benefit of the doubt. They always abuse their authority. Always.
@blakegollmer2048
@blakegollmer2048 Жыл бұрын
Never let them in. Ive heard of too many instances of "oh we made a mistake. Let's plant something and cover our a$$" to trust any sort of consented search. If they want to kick my door in with a search warrant well then ill comply and see them in court, but we seriously need to end qualified immunity to protect cases of wrong doing on their part
@asheylarry8213
@asheylarry8213 Жыл бұрын
Qualified immunity only protects officers when they mess up while acting in a reasonable manner. Won’t save them from planting evidence…
@sawyer4981
@sawyer4981 2 жыл бұрын
I've had two similar negative experiences with police knocking at my door. I made the mistake of answering the first time and one of them forced their way into my house. I couldn't get rid of them for nearly an hour. Never again, I will NEVER open the door for police again. The 2nd time they were at my door I walked to it and told them I will not speak with them without a warrant and told them to leave my property. They stayed there banging for another hour, what a great use of tax dollars. 🙄
@rico989
@rico989 2 жыл бұрын
Next time record and tel them to leave if they illegally enter the house or don't leave the premises when asked to. I would try to get some cash off the department or get the officers fired.
@sawyer4981
@sawyer4981 2 жыл бұрын
@@rico989 this was back before there were door bell cams and I was too broke for cctv. I now have both, they can talk to my cameras all night for all I care if they ever show up at my door again lol.
@jeremy5602
@jeremy5602 2 жыл бұрын
Why do cops need a warrant to come to your house to serve you with paperwork?
@sawyer4981
@sawyer4981 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremy5602 They don't, never said they did or should. Anybody can approach your door and knock on it unless they've previously been trespassed from the property. But they CANNOT come inside without a warrant, permission or exigency.
@otismore8920
@otismore8920 2 жыл бұрын
A certain group of police officers were advised not to go deer hunting because of that. They calmed right down. Accidents happen out in those woods
@jeffhoward9186
@jeffhoward9186 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the situation described in this video has occurred when LEs have rushed in and killed an innocent homeowner. Examples are examples where acting on 🚩 where the person who claimed it was actually trying to get revenge on the other person. They violated “due process”. LE has actually went to the wrong address in the middle of the night and rushing the door. There are arguments on both sides of the coin. One is officer safety. On the other is the safety of the innocent homeowner who was woken up to some breaking in their door. The homeowner has a right to defend themselves and their family. My life is as equally valuable as the LE’s life. I do believe in supporting LE. But it has to be MUTUAL RESPECT between all parties involved. Treat me good and I will treat you the same, but many times the LE has an attitude and they act like a jerks.
@bocefusmurica4340
@bocefusmurica4340 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@largo5348
@largo5348 2 жыл бұрын
Law enforcement act more like they're gods.
@chaoticdeertick7213
@chaoticdeertick7213 2 жыл бұрын
In my home my life is worth a lot more than a cop's.
@largo5348
@largo5348 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaoticdeertick7213 ABSOLUTELY! ALL DAY EVERY DAY! !
@sethtenrec
@sethtenrec 2 жыл бұрын
All of the above
@jessieo5757
@jessieo5757 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how everything was about officer safety, with a complete viewpoint from the officer. This shows and continues to show the us vs them mentality. Officers need to go back to being public servants where they belong. Civilians are not responsible for Officer Safety. Officers are responsible for Civilian Safety. Your rights are your rights for a reason. Safety is not an excuse to give up your rights.
@MrJaybeezy123
@MrJaybeezy123 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, officers aren't even responsible for civilian safety. The Supreme Court ruled that officers do not have legal obligation to protect citizens. Makes ya think about the Uvalde school shooting a bit. Anyways, since they have no obligation for ours, the buck definitely doesn't and shouldn't fall on us in our OWN HOMES at 2 am for theirs.
@jessieo5757
@jessieo5757 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MrJaybeezy123 I was more referencing what the Police were meant to do in the first place. But you are 100% correct.
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 жыл бұрын
You can/should answer the door or they'll kick it it.But,you don't have to let them in without a warrant,then they'll make up some bull%%%% reason to come in.
@jasona.p.455
@jasona.p.455 2 жыл бұрын
You think you have rights in this country? You have no rights. You have privileges. Reference George Carlin.
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 жыл бұрын
As a citizen,I don't care about officer safety,just my own.
@LackLusterMedia
@LackLusterMedia Жыл бұрын
02:47 - If they CAN come in, they WILL. Don't open that door!
@KAnderson2020
@KAnderson2020 11 ай бұрын
I'm with you.
@frankbrubicon5299
@frankbrubicon5299 2 жыл бұрын
Respect goes both ways! Cops need to remember that.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Which is why I have zero respect for cops.
@ssf44444
@ssf44444 Жыл бұрын
But MUH authority!!!!!!!!
@DATo_DATonian
@DATo_DATonian 8 ай бұрын
So do citizens.
@ThePengo
@ThePengo 2 жыл бұрын
Never let them in. If you let them in and they feel even slightly inconvenienced they WILL FIND something to try to charge you with. Because how dare you question their authority.
@kevincurry8350
@kevincurry8350 2 жыл бұрын
Never open the door to a cop, unless they have a warrant. You never know what might happen once they enter, it could lead to injury or even death.
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 2 жыл бұрын
Only Third World countries have this problem
@uni4rm
@uni4rm 2 жыл бұрын
@@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh LOL! Google that.
@mikerobinson3672
@mikerobinson3672 2 жыл бұрын
If they have a warrant they will open the door themselves.
@colejohnson3705
@colejohnson3705 2 жыл бұрын
@@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 ROFLMAO! WRONG!
@jameshan2k
@jameshan2k 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikerobinson3672 If they have a warrant, they will announce it instead of just rushing in
@ranmarch6768
@ranmarch6768 2 жыл бұрын
Open the door, and almost always a cop will stick a foot in the door. Try closing the door, and they will charge you with assault on a police officer.
@Agenteyes007
@Agenteyes007 Жыл бұрын
Right.
@ralphm6901
@ralphm6901 Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about that. I might just put one of those security chains on the door. It only allows the door to open a few inches. Cop could put his foot in, but the chain can't be taken off until the door is properly closed.... Cop MUST take his foot out in order remove the chain, OR they have to fetch bolt cutters to destroy my property in order to enter.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
@@ralphm6901 Better solution is not to open the door at all, and don't even say anything to them through the door. Just pretend they aren't there. There's nothing they can do to you unless they were coming in anyway, with a warrant, and then you're going through an expensive legal battle regardless. Answering the door is 100% downside, 0% upside. Not answering the door preserves all of your legal options for criminal defense and civil action against the department.
@ralphm6901
@ralphm6901 Жыл бұрын
@@fakecubed yeah, I'm not going to argue that. I agree it's best not to even get started. But for some people, opening the door is going to happen, and for them, a simple chain would provide some security, and it makes the officer decide between keeping the person talking through the slightly open door, or voluntarily removing his foot.
@roygraham6665
@roygraham6665 2 жыл бұрын
Best thing to do is ,If a cop comes to your door at 2am is to let him know you will be calling the station to find out if they have an officer at your location. Let the Officer know what you are doing before opening the door. I have done this on one occasion when my dog stepped on the panic button of my alarm system. It protects you from a possible intruder and the officer/s will understand.
@jimross2101
@jimross2101 Жыл бұрын
Well, we know which side of law this attorney is on, and it's not the public.
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue 2 жыл бұрын
Never open up unless they have a warrant they can show you.
@regan.8077
@regan.8077 2 жыл бұрын
Don't open then either. If they have a warrant they'll force their way in.
@frankbeardsley2941
@frankbeardsley2941 2 жыл бұрын
I will not recognize an illegal blanket warrant.
@curiousgeorge5992
@curiousgeorge5992 2 жыл бұрын
With AFIDAVIT otherwise not valid,
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
A broken door costs a lot less than the legal fees of getting out of whatever mess you accidentally put yourself in by even so much as talking to the police through the door. If anyone comes to your home without prior notification or your express invitation, just don't hear the knocking. They can't prove you heard anything. Especially with all the earbuds people use now to listen to music or whatever. Whatever happens, keep your mouth shut and let your lawyer tell your story.
@anthonyguidas2012
@anthonyguidas2012 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful about opening the door right away. Make sure they actually are cops, I’ve seen plenty of Ring doorbell videos where the people outside say they are police, just to rob or harm you. Make sure they can prove who they are.
@lasherdj
@lasherdj 2 жыл бұрын
If someone is impersonating an officer, how do we really know if they are who they say? I’ve seen the same ring videos.
@kobudo
@kobudo 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasherdj I have had an experience like that. The easiest way to verify if it’s an officer or not is to call your county dispatch. Say “Hi, my name is (x), my address is (y), and there’s a guy pounding on my door claiming to be a police officer. Do you show an officer at my location?” They can verify or deny, and hopefully if it is a cop they called in their run.
@godzilla7148
@godzilla7148 2 жыл бұрын
Just DON'T answer the door!!!!
@hillaryclinton2415
@hillaryclinton2415 2 жыл бұрын
Like.. with a warrant they can read to you
@pierreaston7709
@pierreaston7709 2 жыл бұрын
Even if they are police it should still be a case by case basis whether or not you open the door, and never open when there's more than 2 officers
@chrissmith9151
@chrissmith9151 2 жыл бұрын
If someone knocks on my door at 2AM, I'm going to be holding a shotgun and I'm not going to even unlock the door. I'll crack open a bedroom window and ask them what is going on. Unless they have a warrant I'm not letting them in. Kicking in my door would end badly.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Why even ask them if they have a warrant? They shouldn't be serving warrants at 2 AM, and I assume you don't think you've done anything worth getting a warrant over. Grab your shotgun, sure, but don't say anything to the police at all, and don't give them any reason to think you're home. If they have something they need to say to you, they can say it to your lawyer instead, during business hours.
@creationfox9893
@creationfox9893 Жыл бұрын
AMEN chris.
@kawikajones9436
@kawikajones9436 2 жыл бұрын
Your rights are ALWAYS more important than "perceived' officer safety.
@rodx5571
@rodx5571 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! They cant feel threatened if you never open the door. And neither can we.
@scottjohnson8576
@scottjohnson8576 Жыл бұрын
Never open the door for cops unless they have a proper warrant, which will have them coming in without permission anyway. Talk trough a window if you can. Or talk through the door or use an intercom or doorbell camera. Keep your conversation to a minimum. Let them know you’re ok and keep it to a minimum.
@constitutionalcheckpoint
@constitutionalcheckpoint 2 жыл бұрын
It only takes one time of you letting a public servant violate your constitutional rights and you won't ever let it happen again without a 42USC1983.
@Dslats
@Dslats 2 жыл бұрын
WARRANT! WARRANT! YOU HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO HELP POLICE OFFICERS DO THERE JOBS.
@kennash7583
@kennash7583 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! And they are under zero obligation to protect us.
@YungAzn
@YungAzn 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly they work for us we DON’T work for them
@chaseviking5096
@chaseviking5096 2 жыл бұрын
Not just any warrant. A search warrant. They don't have any right to come in without permission with a arrest warrant. A arrest warrant doesn't give them the right to come in without permission. Only a search warrant does.
@drumdad1242
@drumdad1242 2 жыл бұрын
@@YungAzn Does it seem like they work for us?
@elmateo77
@elmateo77 2 жыл бұрын
@@YungAzn They work for the government, not for you. They have a duty to protect and serve the state, not individual citizens. There have been a number of supreme court cases on this.
@GeraldNoethen
@GeraldNoethen 2 жыл бұрын
Remember ya'll started off by saying yelling at the end of the hall of apartment. Apartment are high areas of home invasion because people open the door to people claiming to be police. Should of started with identifying the person at the door before opening it. If the squad is in the home owners driveway with lights flashing that's s different story. Remember you stated several times hallway of apartments. I appreciate your videos and am a USCCA member, but situational awareness dictates identify the person at the door without doubt.
@PlasticMacele
@PlasticMacele 2 жыл бұрын
I personally witnessed a situation similar to this. I was at a backyard cookout/pool party of a close friend on a Friday night and it was getting late. The police were called by a neighbor (another story) for loud music. There was no music at that point but people were being loud. Everyone was having a good time, no fights/arguments or anything, just too many people in too small a space. When the police came, they said it was after midnight and we needed to keep it down and implied that it would probably be best if we wrapped it up. The police were polite, but they made it clear that if they had to come back, they wouldn't be so accommodating. My friend called for "last call" and asked everyone to head out and have a safe night. We had just finished packing it up and we were inside cleaning and wrapping up leftovers and whatnot about an hour, perhaps 90 min. later and the police were back. The police ordered my friend to step outside and speak to them, the moment he stepped out the police arrested him on the spot (on his front patio) for public intoxication and disorderly conduct. When we asked the police to chill they told us that if we stepped outside or interfered in any way, we'd get the same treatment or worse. The police were very rude this time. They kept saying "you were warned" etc. It was quiet when the police arrived and everyone except those of us who where helping clean up had left. I always believed he should never have answered the door. The judge dismissed the public intox but made him pay for the disorderly, there was also a fine from the HOA. Last cookout he ever threw. Damn shame too, as he was a chef and aside from the ending, one of the best parties I had ever been at.
@jimbob9828
@jimbob9828 2 жыл бұрын
The Shift changed and the New Czar saw a chance for a number.
@markmiller834
@markmiller834 2 жыл бұрын
Your first problem is the HOA. Never join a facist group!
@jaimemcdanieltravels
@jaimemcdanieltravels 2 жыл бұрын
They can not legally arrest you on your own property for intoxication. I have had that tried on me years ago. I was sitting on my front porch drinking a beer with a couple of friends and an officer tried to arrest us for public intoxication and drinking in public. After arguing with him he was going to charge me also for obstruction. His Sergeant happened to drive by and saw us and stopped. After telling him what the situation was, he told the officer to back off that he has no authority there and it isn't illegal to be drunk on your own property or drinking on your porch. The Sergeant apologized and said have a nice day guys.
@airtechmech6681
@airtechmech6681 Жыл бұрын
@@jaimemcdanieltravels One thing I have wondered about is, if you are at home minding your own business and having a drink in your home or garage or yard, and someone comes to rob or kill you and you shoot them first, will the police have an issue with the fact that you were drinking and have your firearm with you, as I always do.
@nickandrews4545
@nickandrews4545 Жыл бұрын
HOA? Screw those morons!
@jimhoman6752
@jimhoman6752 2 жыл бұрын
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Unless an officer can reasonably articulate what exact law was broken, how it was broken, and why they believe it was you, or happend/happening in your home, they have ZERO authority to enter your home, without your explicit permission without a warrant SPECIFICALLY stating exactly who or what they are looking for, and specifically what room(s) they intend to search. Also, as law enforcement has no legal duty to protect, or come to the aid of civillians; "officer safety" is a secondary consideration, and does not supercede the individual, or resident from taking what steps theybdeem necessary to ensure their own safety.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
The fact that they have no duty to protect anyone is why exigent circumstances should not be a thing at all. Why do they have special rights to violate the constitution and the people don't even get any benefit from it in terms of protection? That will never make sense to me as long as I live.
@jamesalexander2401
@jamesalexander2401 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry my life and the life of my family is NOT a game. If you threaten me you better be right in what you’re doing because I have rights too and I WILL defend those rights. I still find it amazing how the criminals, be it LEO’s or civilians are more protected than the victims.
@tomarmstrong4761
@tomarmstrong4761 2 жыл бұрын
"Suing the Department" doesn't do much to correct behavior of individual cops that f&#$ up. The money for that suit comes from taxpayers, not the cops, not the police union. The cops and their union don't feel the pain of the fines and fees. It's also worth mention that ANYBODY can yell that they are cops. Someone trying to break into my house probably isn't going to care about "impersonating an officer" charges. This is one reason that "no-knock" raids are such a bad idea for all involved. I don't care WHAT is being yelled by the person breaking down my door. If they're breaking down my door, I figure that's reason enough to assume that they mean me harm and defend myself accordingly. Me going to jail for defending myself also violates my right to defend myself. Yes, I know that my state has a statute saying I can't fire back if a cop draws down on me. But at 2:00AM, I have no reason to expect a visit from cops, and someone yelling that he's a cop doesn't prove he's a cop.
@nsboost
@nsboost 2 жыл бұрын
It comes from their insurance company typically. You think they’d give your tax money back? Ha
@eq1373
@eq1373 2 жыл бұрын
@@nsboost and most of the time, the insurance company forces the city to settle regardless of how strong their case is
@yakobtesfalem1494
@yakobtesfalem1494 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, BEING A COP IS AN OCCUPATION AND YOUR EMPLOYMENT CHOICE DOESN'T MAKE YOUR LIFE MORE VALUABLE THAN MINE ,
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions 2 жыл бұрын
All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal then others
@cycleboy8028
@cycleboy8028 2 жыл бұрын
@@RollerCoasterLineProductions Aaannnnddddd... which animal was it that thought itself superior? Hmmm???
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@cycleboy8028 why the pig of course 😆
@Uncleprepper1
@Uncleprepper1 2 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@johnjacob8193
@johnjacob8193 2 жыл бұрын
@@RollerCoasterLineProductions 0 l
@Skoora
@Skoora 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame the Police have created an environment where we feel we don’t want to help them and talk to them because we can’t trust them. Who wants to take a chance on the spinning wheel of what kind of Officer/s are at your door?
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's only downside to help the cops. There is nothing to be gained. If you have valuable information for the police, it can be relayed through your lawyer during normal business hours, without you even needing to be present until such time as you might have to show up in court as a witness. Perhaps all you'll have to do is dictate an affidavit which your lawyer can review, and sign it. There's essentially no reason at all to talk to the police or get involved with anything with the police directly.
@PeterRoos
@PeterRoos 2 жыл бұрын
Step no. 1 is probably to verify that it is indeed the police that comes to your door, before anything else. Or figure out who exactly it is calling at your door at 2 pm.
@hadleyscott1160
@hadleyscott1160 2 жыл бұрын
Hell No!!! Call your lawyer. If they are at my front door I go to the side or vice versa. They are Not coming in my house. They are my adversary. I do not consent anywhere, anytime. I ended up jail for being Mr. Nice Guy. NEVER AGAIN. I answer everything, let them look around and in everything finally found something on me. My permit for carry had expired. I got a week inside and 18 months probie. NEVER AGAIN!!! 68 yrs old, No record, none. NEVER AGAIN.
@ABRAMS63
@ABRAMS63 2 жыл бұрын
BOILS DOWN: NO WARRANT NO ENTRY PERIOD
@anthonypace6122
@anthonypace6122 2 жыл бұрын
Simple "do you have a warrant?" if they answer no then state you have nothing to say to them and you will not speak to them without your lawyer. Also ask them to come back at a reasonable time. If they do have a warrant make sure you put your phone in a good area that can hear what they say and see what they do for the most part (nanny cams are the best thing to have in your house for safety reasons they are easily hidden). DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM WITHOUT A LAWYER PRESENT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!! Even making a statement about an incident that has nothing to do with you can be used against you if they want to.
@oldmanmarkpapaclansuperior9548
@oldmanmarkpapaclansuperior9548 2 жыл бұрын
I had this happen. A neighbor thought it suspicious that I took my dog out late at night. (She gave me the "must go now " cry) Two hours later, there is a pounding on the door to wake the dead, screaming "Sheriff department". My concern was whether it was really a deputy, or was it an imposter. I needed to make a decision, whether to go armed to the door. I chose to talk to them from my balcony. I wish I had made a better decision and called 911 to verify their identity, but sleepy decisions aren't always well conceived. But we ended with a successful ID, and they declined my offer to make coffee.
@joeldelavega768
@joeldelavega768 2 жыл бұрын
A cop and a lawyer say to just cooperate and let them in. Imagine that.
@ronaldharrington2150
@ronaldharrington2150 Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree.
@creaperman2522
@creaperman2522 Жыл бұрын
rather specifically not what they were saying. they laid out options, explained that from their professional and knowledgeable position, where they are both better equipped to understand the legal situation, they found that answering the door and speaking to them was generally less of a hassle for them, than the possible alternatives if they chose not to. It is absolutely your right to not answer, or pretend to not be home, but if you choose those options, the officers may choose options you like even less. There is no catch all answer to this situation because there's not two situations that are exactly the same. The fact this lawyer recognizes that, and provides generalizations very sparingly, suggests he might just know what he's talking about. in the end, you gotta do what you believe is best in the moment. you also gotta deal with the consequences, whatever that may be. welcome to the world.
@WhiskyCardinalWes
@WhiskyCardinalWes 2 жыл бұрын
At 2a.m. the conversation on my part is, "Come back at 9a.m., I'm turning on the sprinkler system now. Good night."
@Sourpusscandy
@Sourpusscandy 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays there’s the thing called SWATTING, where false accusations are called in and SWAT comes to your door and turns your life upside down. Discuss how to handle that, please. My policy is don’t open the door, don’t let them in, unless you called for their assistance.
@lostinbq
@lostinbq 2 жыл бұрын
And even then meet them outside if you can, I needed medical assistance twice in the past 6 years.. I fell down 3 steps and open dislocated my big toe under my foot, second was I dropped a pot of noodles onto my foot, both times I called the ambulance I meet them outside cos the cops would come as well, cops were cool cos I was outside they could not enter, and it would have been different had I been inside, now I'm not saying if your bleeding out or have a broken neck to try and crawl outside sometimes it's not possible but these are different stories than what their referencing to..
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 2 жыл бұрын
SWATting is a part of a group of crimes called "gangstalking". People who commit that type of crime should be shot.
@stephengreen3566
@stephengreen3566 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you call them for assistance? Please, give me a reason you would need a police officer in your home.
@lostinbq
@lostinbq 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephengreen3566 umm, they send police when you call for an ambulance here, and if you did not notice I said (I fell down 3 steps and open dislocated my big toe.....)
@Sourpusscandy
@Sourpusscandy 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephengreen3566 oh one example, i come home and see the door wide open. I’d let the popo clear it.
@justpray365
@justpray365 2 жыл бұрын
You made a statement that you think most cops are good cops. Can you guarantee that ALL cops are good. I had 2 cops break in a window of my house without a search warrant. They thought my brother was there, but again, no warrant. I was in the bathroom at the time and I thought crooks were breaking in. If I had been near a gun one of us wouldn’t be here today, and I had a long conversation with him about that. He didn’t disagree, and I think the gravity of what could have happened hit him. Cops do a lot of stupid stuff.
@918Mitchell
@918Mitchell 2 жыл бұрын
I used to live in a city, got in the habit of keeping a gun on me at all times, even in the bathroom.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Logically all cops are bad cops, because no cops arrest the bad cops.
@marshallkobe
@marshallkobe 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how these two are ok with the police state
@russellbentley8813
@russellbentley8813 2 жыл бұрын
Famous last words “I’m from the government and I am here to help “
@timmsmiithgm557
@timmsmiithgm557 2 жыл бұрын
Add this to the mix: the police can lie to you about having exigent circumstances. They could falsely tell you that they got a call form someone reporting a child screaming from your home and that they'll bust your door down if you don't open it. That raises another question: if the police try to arrest you and you resist, can your defense against the inevitable resisting arrest charge be that you thought the cops were lying when they said "you're under arrest"?
@jimmygrant424
@jimmygrant424 2 жыл бұрын
excellent point THEY WILL ALWAYS LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bryanbeeman5256
@bryanbeeman5256 2 жыл бұрын
No you can’t and shouldn’t because at that point they can murder you and lie about why they had to.
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmygrant424 Yeah,always. How do you know when a cop is lying,when he starts talking. LOL.
@rh451
@rh451 2 жыл бұрын
Solution: “I don’t give you permission to come in, but I’m not going to resist you.” They can’t lie later in court when justifying why they made entry.
@sirrichardwhitney5452
@sirrichardwhitney5452 2 жыл бұрын
Baring False Witness for a paycheck , is the truth of it. It's Immoral, and their is a special place in the after life for them. And yes Executive force meets just force. From personal experience I've detained a police officer until his shift commander claimed him. I was told If I would have disarmed him ,,,5 years. He was put with a partner after his encounter with me.
@lindafoxwood78
@lindafoxwood78 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. I have been visited by LEO 4 times in my present house. I answer knocks on my front door from my bathroom window which is directly next to my door. I always ask to see the warrant - that makes them leave.
@dmsturgeon8762
@dmsturgeon8762 2 жыл бұрын
No arrest warrant, no search warrant....no entry. Unless you called the police for service, don't answer the door. Barring some exigent circumstances they can't enter your home.
@traincain1128
@traincain1128 2 жыл бұрын
For a knock and talk, You don't even have to answer the door. You don't have to acknowledge their presence at the door. If they have a warrant things change.
@JustABill02
@JustABill02 2 жыл бұрын
The risk of having to repair/get a new door are trivial in comparison to all crap that can happen if you let them in. They can lie about why they want to get in, they can tell you they have a warrant, it might be an arrest warrant, which won't let them enter unless they see the arrestee in the home. Talking (actually just ask them questions, don't answer anything) thru the door is an excellent option
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Best to not respond to the door at all, but be ready for violence in case whoever's at your door means you harm. There's no advantage at all to talking to police, even through a door. Nor is there advantage to talking to a criminal pretending to be police (or anything else), even through a door. It's always 100% downside. And ultimately your case for self-defense is going to be a lot better if you only seemed to become aware of the presence of people breaking in after they broke in. Your lawyer can explain that all you heard was some loud banging, or didn't hear anything at all until they burst into whatever room you're in after breaking down your door. People have gotten off because police didn't properly announce themselves, or because they didn't actually have a proper warrant, or didn't actually have exigent circumstances. Police are just intruders at that point. Just don't say anything that can contradict whatever story your lawyer says later. Again, just don't ever talk to cops. Not even through a door. Leave every possible legal strategy open to you at all times. I'm sure they've even tried the fake "your kid's been in an accident" notification ploy in order to execute a warrantless search or trick people into saying something that can be construed as incriminating in court later. Wouldn't surprise me at all. I've heard many stories about so many despicable lies. And frankly, I don't care if it's my own mom coming for an unannounced visit. My door doesn't open unless I'm expecting somebody. Call ahead. Write a letter. Make some kind of effort to make your wish to visit me known before you come and knock. If I'm not expecting you, I'm going to either not be in a place or circumstance where I can hear you knocking, or I'm going to pretend I wasn't when you whine to me later about it.
@codyway7424
@codyway7424 2 жыл бұрын
I am under no obligation to talk to the police. I am no obligation to submit my home to unwarranted searches. If they need to kick the door, they will have do defend that decision. If you let them in, they win. I would ask what they want thru the door and send them on their way.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Why even ask them what they want? If they know you're there, they're just going to start barking orders, and if those orders are unjust and unlawful they'll still end up arresting you for resisting their unlawful arrest. It's all downside to even respond. Nothing they want to say to you, at any time or day or night, can't be said to your lawyer during business hours the next day.
@bryanbeeman5256
@bryanbeeman5256 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a black man. There’s probably a no knock warrant somewhere here. So if a Karen calls and lies about something (which the officers are going to believe her) and come banging at my door at 2am when I’m sleep… I’M NOT OPENING THE DOOR…. They were going to make it worse REGARDLESS. I have had too many experiences (working at the sheriff’s office and as a civilian) where it’s biased and unjust… and it’s not going to change any time soon…
@TinionDaye1274
@TinionDaye1274 2 жыл бұрын
They had better PRESENT said warrent, and i will verify it BEFORE i let them in!
@jcnikoley
@jcnikoley 2 жыл бұрын
Caller: “Hello Police, there’s a belligerent man banging on peoples doors and screaming waking us up” Police “Hold my beer”
@Joshmmh
@Joshmmh 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasryan2679 I bet you contribute to the sheriffs association every year.
@elmateo77
@elmateo77 2 жыл бұрын
30 minutes later: "Hello again, now there are a bunch of belligerent men screaming and banging on people's doors, and some of them are wearing police uniforms."
@moushunter
@moushunter 2 жыл бұрын
Twenty years ago my 17 year old son had a 2am visit from the police while he was home alone. Apparently my old ground line phone number, which had been changed several years earlier because it was 1 digit off from the probation office phone number, was used to call a suicide hotline. I don't know why the records weren't changed over that period of time. The police insisted they look through the house to see if anyone else was home. I was working. My other son and my daughter were spending the weekend with their mom. I did go to the police station after I got home from work and got an apology from the shift supervisor for having the officers enter my home with only a minor present. I never did get an explanation why the phone number was still registered to my home address.
@moushunter
@moushunter 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking more about what I wrote: If this were to happen today the police would certainly be using the red flag laws to confiscate every weapon in the house, even without cause, because, you know...it'll get their picture in the newspaper as some sort of hero. That would open the resident to all kinds of legal problems. Door stays closed. Cops stay outside. You want to talk? Call me.
@jameslyons6655
@jameslyons6655 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on both sides. Cops came to the back door of a second floor apartment I lived in demanding entry due to the report of a domestic violence situation. I tried to tell him several times that it was not us but the couple downstairs. He was so laser focused on getting inside he wasn’t listening to a word I said. I finally said “Let’s just bot be quiet” and it shocked him enough that he stopped talking. Immediately you could here the screaming and crashing from downstairs. He left without saying goodbye. Later in my career I went to a lot of peoples houses, but always with a warrant.
@craigdavis9895
@craigdavis9895 2 жыл бұрын
Unless they produce a warrant, you do not have to open the door. Never talk to the poly, they are not your friends,!
@eq1373
@eq1373 2 жыл бұрын
I take it you've been accused in domestics before
@wireman4029
@wireman4029 2 жыл бұрын
I had a cop knock on my door one night while my wife was at work. I DO NOT open my door if I don't have to. I spoke with the cop through the window, he was able to see inside my house, saw my son watching TV on the couch, realized he was at the wrong apartment and left, but not before trying EVERYTHING for me to let him in and search my house. I told him no way.
@adidas2777
@adidas2777 2 жыл бұрын
Just tell them you are a school and they will hide outside.
@steezyondablock4856
@steezyondablock4856 2 жыл бұрын
This actually happened to me and I'm here to tell you......No you don't have to answer the door for the police
@8123Ben
@8123Ben 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when tyrants tell us how it's gonna be
@ryanday7838
@ryanday7838 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest fear has always been criminals impersonating police. Basically no way to know until it’s too late
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
That's why you don't answer the door.
@randydiabolo
@randydiabolo Жыл бұрын
Honestly criminals impersonating police and knocking on your door is the best possible home invasion scenario because you get a warning and can simply not open the door. Far worse would be thugs that kick down your door at 3am while you’re sleeping and clear your house in 30 seconds.
@danhume7669
@danhume7669 2 жыл бұрын
So here is a side question worth knowing. If someone is banging on my door at 2am, I have a pistol in my hand before I get to that door. WTF do I tell that officer when i do open that door..."Hey officer, Just to let you know, I have a gun in my hand"... Yeah, that goes well.
@webslingerxxx4271
@webslingerxxx4271 2 жыл бұрын
Decades ago, naked, it worked out ok for a guy I used to know. ;-) Nose to nose with cops foot in the gap, mutual respect established, weapon got stowed. Follow up conversation directed them to garage apartment from whence the drunken 911 call originated. Could have gone badly, but clear communication carried the day.
@mikerobinson3672
@mikerobinson3672 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Hume why are you talking to the Police in the first place.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Don't go to the door at all. Don't say anything at all. If it's cops, there is nothing you can say or do that will help your situation, and there's no information they could give you that they can't give to your lawyer during normal business hours. The only thing you can do by going to the door, or saying anything to the cops, day or night, is hurt yourself. If they have a warrant they're coming in regardless. Good, let them break your door down. Don't help them at all by opening it, or answering it. Hopefully they mess up somehow and breaking your door down and serving that warrant right then and there is the reason all the evidence (real or planted) is not admitted into court during your trial and you get off. You preserve all of your legal options, and the police can only make their case worse, if you don't help them, don't say anything, and they are forced to do whatever it is they were going to do anyway without your assistance.
@Jw-no7id
@Jw-no7id 2 жыл бұрын
99% of the time I support LEO but entering my home without a warrant on exigent circumstances is not one of those times. This may be more of a city/suburb issue as there aren't any cops dumb enough to try and force their way into homes in the country for obvious reasons.
@j.t.cooper2963
@j.t.cooper2963 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. As a matter of fact I have ignored their knocks on my door late at night several times over the years. Unless I call them, I'm not answering the door.
@loudandclearmedia
@loudandclearmedia 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great conversation. It inspires me to get a security screen, actually. Sure, they can still be breached, but not as easily as your average front door, and it gives you a more significant barrier for cover to discuss with the police why they're there to begin with.
@overmountainman
@overmountainman 2 жыл бұрын
You have to make sure the screen door is locked. They will open it before you open the door.
@mikesmith1181
@mikesmith1181 Жыл бұрын
there are two excellent videos that show the security door in action against tyrant cops. One by DirectD's wife and one by a house guest (not sure of the channel).
@Re1ardedHoon
@Re1ardedHoon 2 жыл бұрын
No warrant door stays shut. Nothing comes of talking to cops who can legally lie to your face to get whatever information they are after. Keep it closed and locked.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Even if there is a warrant, it's better that they kick your door down, after you didn't even come to the door. That preserves as many legal options for you as possible. Make no statements. Say nothing except "I don't consent to any searches or questioning, and I want a lawyer." They may very well screw up somewhere, even the slightest mistake on their part, while you do nothing to help them, can be very helpful to you. If you start helping them, then no matter how many mistakes they make, they'll still put you in a cage. Help your lawyer, not the cops. Keep your mouth shut, and let your lawyer speak for you.
@regan.8077
@regan.8077 2 жыл бұрын
Never answer the door for police unless you called them.
@212caboose
@212caboose 2 жыл бұрын
EVERY state needs to get rid of qualified immunity. PERIOD. MY life is just as important as a police officers. There's too many loopholes that law enforcement can (and have) abuse.
@eq1373
@eq1373 2 жыл бұрын
Won't ever happen
@beckydennis6591
@beckydennis6591 Жыл бұрын
The biggest question is how do we fix this? People didn't feel this way 20 years ago about law enforcement. We're educated much better on the law now and we have so much of their unlawful behavior on video and as a people, we should be concerned for the future.
@Green.Country.Agroforestry
@Green.Country.Agroforestry 2 жыл бұрын
The best Officer Safety there is is to not kick in someone's door in the middle of the night. Lets add to that: Be courteous and respectful at all times, ALWAYS be the first to de escalate a situation, respect private property rights and curtilage, properly present yourself as a sworn officer of the court (and if you AREN'T a sworn officer of the court, stick to writing up civil code violations, and keep your sidearm where it belongs). Criminals kick in doors in the middle of the night. Often they yell "Police" to throw homeowners off balance. The best self defense option a homeowner has in these situations is to use defensive force against the home invader, immediately. Any person that engages in the initiation of violence has got to have the expectation going in that they will not be going home at the end of the day. Does this mean that some homeowners will be murdered by police? Certainly .. many unarmed and innocent people are murdered by police every year already. A few might even survive the assault, and wind up being sentenced to prison for defending themselves .. but it is a big ask for people to forgo self defense on the off chance that the criminal breaking and entering into their house might be a 'police officer'.
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 2 жыл бұрын
Some burglars do that, they yell "Police!" and some homeowners just run out the back door, leaving a house full of stuff ripe for the taking.
@exhaustguy
@exhaustguy Жыл бұрын
Short of rescuing a hostage I can't see any justifiable reason for the cops ever to force entry in the middle of the night. I guess we have the drug war to thank.
@johnq741
@johnq741 2 жыл бұрын
so we are salves and must comply to our masters? at 2am I don't know if the people on the other side of the door are really cops...
@bm3092
@bm3092 2 жыл бұрын
Had a similar situation where my wife and I were living in a new apartment with our newborn in the room close to the main door. The police showed up about 2am and were asking to come in because a hit and run was reported for a car registered at our apartment. I made the mistake saying they could come inside with a moment of panic and instead closed the door and stepped outside to talk to them. Situational awareness is very important but bad things can happen quickly so this discussion is much needed.
@markpacileo
@markpacileo 2 жыл бұрын
After they announce themselves, politely tell them you are calling 911 to verify for the safety of yourself and your family (and officer safety) and that you are armed and will remain so until their identity is verified. After that you will talk to them through the open/cracked door which is not an invitation to enter and the encounter will be on video (or even livestreamed to give them no reason to destroy your phone). Be polite and clearly state your actions and reasoning. Good protection against fake cops and to make sure the good ones play by the book.
@horusluprecal1144
@horusluprecal1144 Жыл бұрын
I've seen some houses that are "U" shaped due to the garage being forward on one side and the living room on the other. The homeowner then would have an entry gate/fence blocking access to the front door by like 10-12 feet. Seems like a great idea.
@jimmieroan9881
@jimmieroan9881 2 жыл бұрын
ive been told many times never let a policeman in your house without a warrant, because once you do you have allowed them access and they can search you and your home, you let them in. if you tell them no and they come in anyway make sure you say plainly i did not give you permission to come in my house but i am not resisting you.
@gunmonkey6545
@gunmonkey6545 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is many people have had negative interactions with Leo’s who didn’t know the law, threatened them, and if they feel disrespected in some way may get vindictive. Bottom line is once you let them in, they can search around. What if you live in a a state that has crazy gun storage laws and your home defense shotgun is not unloaded, locked up, and under at least 5 blankets. Guess what they’re going to do? I can appreciate that most cops are trying to do their jobs, but the fact remains that once they are in, they have the ability to search, even if their original purpose has nothing to do with something that they saw or found while searching.
@anonmachina
@anonmachina Жыл бұрын
'Blanket Warrants' can be defeated. (Well...could be defeated....but less so in the present United Soviet State Republic continually enforced by a system corrupted in and out).
@tikimurtaugh4919
@tikimurtaugh4919 2 жыл бұрын
No warrant no entry. Plain and simple. At 2 am I'm not opening the door for anyone that I'm not planning on having come over
@MrKingArthurhk
@MrKingArthurhk 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work the Federal side of a corrupt small town. The locals would routinely walk into people’s homes without cause. We refused to work with them, because we had extensive training on the 4A.
@eq1373
@eq1373 2 жыл бұрын
Suuuuure
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
The Feds are the worst offenders of constitutional violations.
@gcdcpakmbs
@gcdcpakmbs 2 жыл бұрын
1st - call 911. You're talking to dispatch. Did they dispatch someone to you're address. Now you know if it's LE or posers. 2. Tell LE you are in communication with dispatch. 3. Start filming with your phone immediately. 4. Demand to have a supervisor immediately. 5. De-escalate De-escalate De-escalate.
@firemedic23-5
@firemedic23-5 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody has screen doors anymore! LOL I recommend "security doors" for your home's main entrance; lockable, steel frame, shatter-proof glass doors that allow visual and verbal communications with anyone on the outside while remaining secure.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
There's nobody you need to communicate with outside through such a door. That goes double for cops. Don't talk to cops.
@oldschool9932
@oldschool9932 2 жыл бұрын
Make certain your house number(s) are highly visible. That will reduce a goodly portion of identification errors.
@garyfoltzer6618
@garyfoltzer6618 2 жыл бұрын
I had a issue like this back in the 1980's were there was a pounding and door bell ringing at my front door. I had exterior rolling shutters on all doors and windows of my house. I opened the front door and raised the shutter just enough to see out. Three guys wearing suits told me to open my shuttered front door that they were detectives with a search warrant for a friend of mine. I told them he wasn't here in my house. They said they have a search warrant and I must open my door and allow them to search my house for him. I opened the shutter just enough for them to pass the warrant under the shutter to me. I looked at it real quick and did notice there wasn't a Judges name or signature. NOW! Up to this point I had a legally owned USI 9 m/m submachine gun in my hands that they couldn't see so I tossed it under a chair cushion next to the door and opened the shutter. They all three rushed in with guns drawn. The first one in grabbed me by the neck and slammed me against the wall and pointed his pistol in my face and told me note to move. The other two ran through my house, each taking different rooms...taking way to long in each room to look for a man in there ( a bed, a dresser , a night stand and a closet in all three rooms. Then they ran through the family room, kitchen and living room and out the front door with the one guy holding me. They parked their car out on the street, to far for me to see the license plate number. I closed up the door and called the police. While waiting for the police to arrive I called a friend of mine that was a major and incharge of special investors and operations for the police department here. He said there was no warrant issued for my friend or my address. Since then I don't and won't opened my door to anyone who says they have a search warrant unless there is a uniformed police officer there and I see the warrant first. And ever since then I always answer the door with a gun in my hand.
@nathanaelbas5289
@nathanaelbas5289 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, sorry about that
@falcon3719
@falcon3719 2 жыл бұрын
Chicago PD has gone to the wrong address before and let's say, they were not too polite. Cost the city big bucks. I'm a supporter of cops (relatives on the job) but they crossed the line.
@John5.56
@John5.56 2 жыл бұрын
Should’ve listened to your gut and recognized those red flags. But lesson learned I suppose. Kind of odd they just held you at gun point and ran through your house, but what do I know.
@eq1373
@eq1373 2 жыл бұрын
This story is a lie. That is not how search warrants work.
@bodazaphfa
@bodazaphfa 2 жыл бұрын
Man! I’m glad you’re ok.
@lcee6592
@lcee6592 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is everyones constitutional rights “ subject to a LEOs interpretation” anytime they feel like it?
@yanbigtimeinc7698
@yanbigtimeinc7698 2 жыл бұрын
Who in their right mind opens up a door at 2:00 in the morning after they've been woken up out of a sound sleep. You should immediately call the cops and tell them an stranger is banging at your door. Then go back to sleep 💤😴 and let them all work it out✌🤣✌. Nothing is that important that you can't wait four more hours until morning 🌄.
@TheTransporter007
@TheTransporter007 Жыл бұрын
Putting their foot inside the door to keep you from closing it, and claiming "assaulting a police officer" if you try to close it is another horrifying trick they use.
@alexanderren1097
@alexanderren1097 2 жыл бұрын
Unless they have a warrant, HELL NO!!! I can hear through the door
@rgray3173
@rgray3173 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know they are cops? Tell them you are calling 911 first and verify they are legit before you let them in.
@randyschweiss847
@randyschweiss847 2 жыл бұрын
Simple as this....."I'm sorry officer. I respect your position, and I am willing to cooperate any way I can, but not until I speak to my attorney".
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sure bud... The pigs will stalk you and torture you for asserting your rights. That's if they don't just shoot you.
@GraphixHurricane
@GraphixHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
Then they assume you're guilty bc you want your lawyer 😵‍💫
@mikestarkey7989
@mikestarkey7989 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they have to investigate, BUT you DO NOT have to help them.
@jimgarofalo5479
@jimgarofalo5479 2 жыл бұрын
When somebody beats on my door at 2 am, I might already be in "fight " mode. However, I have very little regard for the safety of jack-booted thugs making demands in the middle of the night. A dog adds another element to the incident. I would be inclined to call 911 and tell them to call off the cavalry. Too often cops overstep their authority because of their huge egos and simply will not take "NO" for an answer. Just for the record, I think your attorney friend hasn't ever given a straight answer on any of your videos. He also uses too many yuppie buzzwords. That "end of the day" thing gets tiresome after a while.
@GraphixHurricane
@GraphixHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well he's a bootlicker so
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 2 жыл бұрын
Police knock, I ask then why they are here and then I ask if they are at the right address. If they actually are, I'd still talk to them through the door, not even opening it. I know people can hear my on the otherside
@jackson7421
@jackson7421 2 жыл бұрын
No warrant, no entry! The older I get, the less I trust LEO.
@Unit13FREMSLT
@Unit13FREMSLT 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at a BDSM club and can recognize it as soon as I see it, these two guys are clearly submissive bottom boys that will bow down at the first sign of an authority figure. It's always fun to watch attorney's jump around the subject matter.
@blazingpedals
@blazingpedals 2 жыл бұрын
Most lawyers will advise you to never talk to police. They are looking for a criminal and can mis-interpret anything you may say.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Don't even answer the door. Nothing to be gained by that.
@moto6657
@moto6657 Жыл бұрын
Had this exact situation happen to me. Police asked me to open up, they were investigating a shooting. I said no thank you through the door and they left. If they have a warrant they wouldn’t be asking to come in. Then I went out through the side door that went out to the gated patio ask them what was going on. They said they were investigating a shooting and wanted to know if I heard anything and I said I was sleeping This happened in Houston TX
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