How These Defensive Gun Uses Could Land You In Prison

[@ColionNoir]

There is a thin line when using your gun in self-defense between justified and unjustified homicide. I could find myself in a costly legal case to prove that using my gun was justified. If you're interested in learning more about what Self Defense Insurance covers AND getting a few special free bonuses, click this link! ➡️ www.uscca.com/colionnoir

[@GRT1865]

I think I've seen this before. Yes I did. On the USCCA video. HAHAHA I thought you did well. Stay safe. Take care. Have fun. 😎

[@Getvictd744]

2 things.....No Uscca for my state and why on my co workers phone this won't show.....I've watched it twice but wow smh.

[@tigarxox]

We all need these training courses instead of stacking gun laws after useless gun laws.

[@josephnielsen123]

That was cool. Do more of these when you get the chance. Team up with the Active Self Protection (ASP) guy, maybe?

[@edzachary8657]

I know I feel a little bit of relief knowing that I do have USCCA if God forbid anything like this would ever happen, well worth it

[@beanie_4977]

I think every DA, defense attorney, prosecutor across the COUNTRY should go through mandatory trainings like this. Even jurors and judges

[@Chris-0113]

💯

[@m118lr]

IF..they ARE practicing attorneys THEY ALREADY KNOW the law! They don’t go through law “school” saying “I’m going to be a defense OR prosecutor”. They HAVE TO KNOW BOTH sides of the law!

[@beanie_4977]

@@m118lr that may be true, but it’s much different when you are in the scenario. I worked corrections for 10 years and had multiple different uses of force, it’s different in the moment than afterwards writing a report or statement about it. IMO.

[@tarkovclipsbymarysue]

Even children 🤤

[@joeschmo247]

Jurors? You me everyone in the US? Or just the actual jury on a case like this?

[@osielalvarado1921]

What a SWAT instructor taught us once, “how many times did you shoot” answer is always “multiple times”.

[@Notyourslave69]

But you only tell your lawyer that. Not a LEO.

[@osielalvarado1921]

@@Notyourslave69 you don’t tell LEO anything

[@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2]

@@osielalvarado1921 Wrong. You tell them you are willing to cooperate, but only with your lawyer present and consultation. Then you dont say anything. First impressions still go a long way.

[@Chikushou123]

@@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2 No, telling them you are willing to cooperate can be used against you if you are prosecuted and then "don't say anything".

[@joefer5360]

"I'd like to call my lawyer - can I have an EMT and cigarette please?."

[@hulldefilade4897]

Its absurd to think that a person in this scenario could be charged with anything. 3 shots or empty a mag, the threat is a threat u til the surrender or stop moving. Prosecutors that try and find a reason to charge you in a scenario like this are only trying to add bullet points to their resume and are vile human beings.

[@lukex8169]

No, they're trying to scare people out of defending themselves and imprison those who are bold enough to stand up against violence.

[@andyd834]

Some places you and I quote "Have a duty to retreat" which means you have to bail out your house. Surrender it to the threat and wait for I guess police to come from who knows where and save you.

[@BiggDubbandTheRawkman]

It’s messed up that some treat straight up criminals and killers equally with respect as if they were law abiding citizens.

[@SwiftTrooper5]

Agreed. Colion has good instincts. Kept shooting as the threat was still active.

[@dangerous8333]

Fyi, Prosecutors don't make the laws. The laws are made by politicians that people vote for. The DA is a bureaucrat.

[@sammieuyere211]

As a citizen, you're expected to be thinking about all this legal crap when your life's in possible danger.

[@dylonjackson8863]

It isn't that hard to commit to memory when you just do your due diligence and stay informed on the laws of your State. This kind of stuff is why training and education are so vital. Just a few hours of learning every week or even every month could save you a lot of lost time in the future. Also best to avoid living in or traveling to leftist States that have made self defense a crime.

[@davidhakadoober._1-]

@@dylonjackson8863 all works out great for the rest of the communist country folk now doesn’t it.

[@davidhakadoober._1-]

@@dylonjackson8863 besides the second amendment was the only thing we should need to commit to memory, that and if you see a threat or believe that there is a threat to yourself or another person then it is our duty to act in defense.

[@dylonjackson8863]

@@davidhakadoober._1- Yeah that's how it should be but there are still things like use of force laws that you need to know.

[@davidhakadoober._1-]

@@dylonjackson8863 not really but since most are so easily manipulated and weak that they vote for this garbage and allow it to have power over them we will continue to be cornered into Communism and slavery until the end.

[@lowmansdue]

Every prosecuting attorney should have to go through this

[@teru797]

they wouldn't care. their job is to lock people up, by any means necessary. They would find a way to use this against people.

[@buckeyebeliever3397]

That’s a great idea

[@andyd834]

Especially that dipshit that was trying Rittenhouse.

[@marcuschauvin7039]

minus the rubber bullets and armor

[@DougieBee]

I agree...but I wouldn't expect it to change the way they do their jobs. It hasn't stopped several I've known from doing drugs and sending people to jail for the same thing.

[@USCCAOfficial]

It was great teaming up with you, Colion! Hope your viewers enjoy learning from your real-life scenario based training.!

[@lauracanto]

It was a great video! Colion's reactions and instincts were amazing to see!

[@lauracanto]

Please do more of these with Colion! He's awesome!

[@Saim.369]

It was really good waiting for more thanks

[@officedullard8722]

The fact that a good citizen acting in defense can get railroaded like that is proof of how the courts are broken.

[@davek5027]

Amen brother

[@bodine113]

Exactly

[@brookjohnson8216]

I’ve been a cop for several years. I’ve seen a lot of shootings. I’ve seen a few righteous self defense shootings and they were handled appropriately by our detectives and DA. No charges.

[@mateo1726]

It depends more on the DA and jurisdiction rather than the “courts are broken”. A shooting in LA with a Soros prosecutor will be treated differently than the exact same shooting in Florida.

[@BlackWat3rGTR]

@@AwkwardYet is that from Brooks DA? Only way you can rebut what he said. You CANNOT compare another DA to his DA who did their job correctly.

[@Saventry]

I'm not afraid of a criminal. I'm afraid of a prosecutor.

[@blzahz7633]

That's usually the case. People are more afraid of the aftermath than the actual threat, which paralyzes them.

[@russiantroubleyakutsk1612]

Kyle Rittenhouse wasn’t found innocent until over a year after he defended himself and that was with crowd sourced funding, video recordings, etc.

[@teedtad2534]

Ben Franklin warned America about Freedom of Speech may be banned! Do you see it coming bit by bit! . ONCE one Amendment is abolish count on other Amendments to fall.. 🌠⚡🌠⚡🌠

[@danielrollins4315]

Criminals are just people exploiting the law. It's treason for the government to make laws to punish citizens for protecting their people and themselves. A criminal is always a deadly threat and if they get away they will kill you or someone else later.

[@teedtad2534]

@@danielrollins4315 SOME criminals might change just not likely in most cases.. it's when people feel NO guilt they are most dangerous!! So many innocent people murdered.. glad that good citizens fight back.. I get the gut feeling the justice system does NOT mind criminals ... I even heard a cop say if so many good he would be out of a job .. and even more strange a judge admired Ted Bundy the one who killed.14 females .. I f I was a judge I d give him NO praise just a lecture he d never forget before.going to the chair or needle.. I noticed how political parties want to ban weapons on AlL citizens when criminals will NEVER surrender their.weapons , NEVER! We do NOT have good leadership ! What we have are hypocrites!! And dumb bells...🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐

[@savageCI]

The fact that In that scenario you would even have to worry about being prosecuted shows how screwed our systems have become

[@NibNa5ty]

one thing that popped into my head that could get you screwed... what is behind that wall?

[@Bestgameplayer10]

@@NibNa5ty I thought about that too. So much you have to think about in a firearm self-defense situaiton.

[@SMarti018]

How a person defending themselves and others could end up in prison for life simply Because in the heat of the moment the last round fired at the criminal he turned his shoulder and hit him in the back. That’s not fair, we don’t live in a video game world with slow motion. That’s what the prosecutor gets to do though.

[@voodooreptiles3553]

Yes very true, i think the same thing very often when watching this mans videos.

[@lwilson1234]

Exactly! There absolutely ARE behaviors you can engage in that WILL strip you of your self defense plea. However, there are no circumstances (such as these) where a criminal's behavior will indemnify you for trying to stop or possibly use a firearm. Similarly, if an emergency vehicle is responding code 3(lights and sirens) they can kill you running a red light and they are EXEMPT from prosecution or civil liability. Oops, sorry about that!

[@AstraZero7]

After listening to the lawyer, it's absolutely ridiculous how free a criminal is.

[@T7M7P7L7R]

at this point Im not taking my gun out until Im dead lmao

[@stacystites8158]

As society continues to deteriorate, that statement of yours should become instructive... free men don't ask their overlords because free men don't have overlords.

[@just-incase3483]

@@stacystites8158 lawyers and prosecutors make you not really free to defend yourself.

[@JP_Patriot]

Absolutely sickening.

[@anthonycotugno7369]

@@T7M7P7L7R I sense these USCCA videos are pushing that message. Not saying it should be the wild west and firmly feel that it is prudent to get extensive tactical training. I did. However, all these USCCA videos and particularly that attorney who was a former prosecutor continually push that "you are going to prison" message. I have a USCCA membership and these videos are making me question if they will really have my back if the unthinkable ever occurs.

[@idriwzrd]

The one thing this reinforced for me is how completely screwed up our legal system is. Don't call it the 'justice' system, because it rarely delivers that.

[@oofyeah5508]

Poc been saying

[@idriwzrd]

@MrX I agree, the legal system rarely understands how things actually work in real-world situations.

[@davidjones-vx9ju]

ever hear of rittenhouse?

[@adroitone8911]

only times there’s justice is when we finally lock liberals up

[@jamespannell8228]

😂 you got black friends??? They could’ve told you….

[@nomoredems]

It's insane that the law system is making these loopholes so that they can bastardize somebody who's doing the right thing

[@OrthobroLocal1]

Exactly what’s wrong with the world.

[@oConshien]

and yet not punish a LEO who mag dumps someone running away from them without a deadly weapon on them ;) just a lil paid vacation

[@nomoredems]

@@oConshien someone usually deserves it

[@oConshien]

@@nomoredems everyone deserves to be held accountable. applies to all parties.

[@2packrm781]

We got dogmas, anti-gun activists, & zealots who are in the justice system that shouldn't be there, is what I'm now understanding from this 🤔😧

[@panman2568]

Hands down the best pro 2nd amendment advocate in our country

[@grendelprime166]

Fire Wayne and Put Colion Noir in charge of the NRA.

[@matteodelapaz1698]

@@grendelprime166 nah abolish the SCAMRA he left the company for a reason.

[@matteodelapaz1698]

@@grendelprime166 FPC is the better choice

[@Sleepy_spartan717]

He is by far the best.

[@Bamaboy352]

@@matteodelapaz1698 💯 .....FPC been doing the work then NRA comes in at the end and takes the credit for it

[@edub6205]

This just proves how messed up our legal system is that either of these scenarios would cause legal troubles for someone defending themselves or others.

[@LiberPater777]

Being civilized is overrated imo. It leads to this kind of stupid bs. Common sense goes right out the window of so called "civilized" societies.

[@howardbaxter2514]

Good thing that second situation would not be winnable for a prosecutor. There is ZERO reason to prosecute Colion in that situation.

[@powerbad696]

i learned about the court system in my bad boy youth days-preteen/teenager,it's a monster !!! LOL. An attorney or a judge would come up with 3 or 4 different ways i could've handled my situations or bring up some ancient law/laws to hammer you with. Be very careful folks with your guns and how/when you use them or you'll share a cell with Big Earl or Lil Ray-Ray.And they'll be the husband and you'll be their WIFE. LOL.

[@doms.6701]

I mean there should to an extent. Anyone can shot and possibly kill another and claim self defense. That's the whole point of their being a legal process. Obviously it shouldn't be nearly as much of a pain in the ass but it's ridiculous to say that there should be no legal proceedings in a self defense case for the reason I mentioned

[@Jeff.78]

@@doms.6701 Due process, is what you're talking about, plain and simple. Everyone gets their day in court. Each situation is handled on a case by case basis. With the billions upon billions of variables in each self-defense situation, due process is required. I get your point. If the girlfriend kicks the guy in the nuts as he runs out the door, and she escapes, then you give chase, he stumbles, and you thump him in the head with two rounds, you're guilty of murder. If, instead, you do not give chase, high five your girlfriend for quick thinking, and then pull security until the police get there, you have avoided jail. It's the nature of the beast where variables require scrutiny and reason. ✌️😎

[@Trihalo42]

For some lawyers, it's isn't about justice, it's a challenge for them to twist the wording of the law enough that they can win. And never forget that a dead criminal can't sue you for emotional damages in civil court.

[@m118lr]

..THAT is the WORST, and “scary” part. They can LITERALLY LIE, TWIST..or “confuse things”..to trip someone up..FOR a ‘win’. Unbelievable..

[@Jdowling357]

The family might though, depending on the situation.

[@wacobeer6469]

Empty the mag. If you're going down anyway. Might as well KNOW for the duration of your sentence that the bad guy lost worse. If you fire once. Empty the mag. The outcome will be the same.

[@joel553009]

@@wacobeer6469 exactly

[@deweycollins8354]

U said it,"law" I really have no respect for the "law", however police, sheriff's and people of the same caliber I have nothing but respect for. I am a firm believer in justice and would much rather deal with any issues based on a moral standpoint as opposed to a "legal" one

[@Grawbad]

5:56 "Yeah, he might be robbing the place, but that doesn't mean he may not be privileged to use self defense." And there lies the problem. He gave up his rights the moment he started "Robbing the place." Like what is the defense there? Well your honor, I was just robbing the place, I had my gun out and wouldn't you know it, this other guy pulls a gun on me and starts shooting, I had to defend myself your honor.

[@adamb.6791]

Similar to a burglar slipping and falling on a "fall hazard" in your home and suing you for it.

[@SIRxxGINGER]

My thing is, he committed a crime which if he got time for it, he wouldn't be able to get a gun because of the background check so yea he lost that privilege when he said "give me all your money"

[@1pcmedic]

Anyone committing a crime should also forfeit their right or the families right to sue for death or bodily injury.

[@asdfasdf3989]

@@SIRxxGINGER I don't think that exactly applies here. He hasn't been convicted, and even then, I'm not sure you can't defend yourself if can't legally own or handle a gun.

[@asdfasdf3989]

@@1pcmedic What crimes are included in that? Can you shoot kid's friend for drinking underage on your property?

[@BumpyJohnson9219]

He is talking about retreating. I would not want to live in a state where you have a duty to retreat. Stand your ground all day!

[@nothanks3236]

Exactly, I should have the right to defend myself without first having to back myself into a corner with no escape.

[@Rtb323]

Imagine having to defend urself from a deadly threat and then thinking “Wait the law says I have to retreat or else I go to prison”

[@ElmCreekSmith]

I'm nearly 70. My orthopedist & I doubt that I'm going to retreat anywhere quickly.

[@Yurkevich22]

There's what's lawful to do and then there's what's smart to do. It could be smart to retreat if the situation allows for it. Just because you can stand your ground, doesn't mean you should.

[@j.geshua9539]

What if I retreat to the parking lot and the bad guy follows and shoots ME in the back ? Then what? I rather shoot when I have the chance to save my life and others than running and been killed like a pussy.

[@jentheredhead4698]

Amazing that in these scenarios you have mere seconds to decide, but attorneys get weeks and months to pick it apart. It almost makes me paranoid to carry

[@elijahjohnston3172]

I simply stopped carrying and put my life in gods hands. Not even kidding at all. I never once in my life thought i wpuld have a change of heart

[@jentheredhead4698]

@@elijahjohnston3172 I respect that... a lot. I don't care much about my life as I do others'. If I carried, it would be to protect someone else moreso than myself.

[@matthewjones39]

@@jentheredhead4698 Which means you should carry a gun.

[@122756ABC]

Always retreat and withdraw if possible. Even at home. Your case is much more defensible if you retreated, called the cops and engaged only when you had nowhere to go. Even in castle doctrine jurisdictions, it is not worth the risk of some DA who wants to be a judge or Congressman trying to make you an example. I’ve practiced criminal defense in LA, NY and NV. Mostly violent crimes against persons including murder trials as well as federal level drug cases. Stay safe.

[@giraffetamer12]

almost

[@jumper555]

Shot in the back arguement. No one ever brings up the suspect, while running away, can still run and shoot at you. They can torque their body with the gun in hand and shoot at you, meaning his back will still be exposed. Also, you can see why these laws suck because of these defense attorneys.

[@peezy792]

Exactly

[@drangusbadger1976]

Tennessee V Garner allows a police officer to shoot a fleeing suspect if they believe that they are a danger to others. This guy in the scenario is absolutely a threat to others, who knows what he does with that gun after this. Any attorney who argues that you can't because you're a civilian is an idiot.

[@Sheepdog1314]

read the law. Someone runs AWAY from you means he is retreating. Whether or not he is going to turn and shoot is something you need to "wait for".

[@robertthomas5906]

@@Sheepdog1314 Wait for it and you could be dead.

[@TheInfantry98]

@@peezy792 NOPE.

[@justintillman5630]

Gotta love that you can go to Jail for protecting someone’s life. It’s way too complicated and gives criminals the upper hand in a lot of situations

[@adamb.6791]

Agreed.

[@Wraith-tf5zq]

I was thinking the exact same thing especially during the second scenario around the 11:25 mark when the lawyer is talking about how Colion was going to have to explain how the bad guys taking his girlfriend was considered a deadly threat I was like… really? That needs explaining?

[@justintillman5630]

@@Wraith-tf5zq it’s pretty pathetic ain’t it. Somebody kidnapping someone shouldn’t be allowed. They can probably take her and kill her before police arrive. Potentially use her in a hostage situation and then kill cops. No common sense in half the crap he said. It’s all about 🫰

[@vitalityfox]

All you have to do is go home. If I'm ever in a position where I have to blow someone away I won't be anywhere near the scene when the police arrive. If you wear gloves when you load up the gun you don't need to ever worry about finger prints. Whatever you touched in a public setting even if they have your prints for whatever reason they cannot use it against you because hundreds of others have also touched it before you. There's a reason why once a dine and dasher has gotten away as long as they don't have their plate they cannot prosecute. If you park at least a quarter of a mile away from wherever you intend to go into they cannot obtain your plate. The best city in the world to carry a gun in is new York because there are so many fucking people and a million different escape options once you get away they cannot get you.

[@Wraith-tf5zq]

@@justintillman5630 Especially since they had already shot someone in this scene. But a friend of mine did point out that USCCA sells insurance so you got to take what these videos show with a grain of salt. But then again all it takes is one prosecutor out to make a name for themselves to screw you.

[@Jake-zc3fk]

Colion, I’m very impressed by your willingness to subject yourself to this kind of public display. There’s not many people that would be willing to go through these scenario based training events and agree to have the results put before everyone. Thanks for doing this, I’ve learned a lot once again!

[@monzudihungadowski2161]

While in law enforcement, I was subjected to similar training (20+ years ago). Man... how training has changed. I'm impressed, but not surprised at your response, Colion.

[@richardle7469]

He also did a FORCE ON FORCE, like 5years ago, home invasion

[@crazypete3759]

Its a shame we live in a society where the justice system asks "could they have ran away" ... you should be under ZERO obligation to flee. You should have *every single right* to stop the threat! It doesnt have to just be a threat to you, it can be a treat to anyone in the public!

[@1watersthree]

In most states you do have zero obligation to flee. There’s only a handful of states that don’t have stand your ground, most of which are in the northeast.

[@---m---]

there wouldn’t have been a threat if the lady behind the counter just gave him the money

[@crazypete3759]

@@---m--- oh, ok, so just let criminals be criminals... I really hope you are being sarcastic... We need to eliminate the problem, not allow it to freely destroy our society!

[@---m---]

@@crazypete3759 imagine thinking a human life is less valuable than some money in a cash register. could not be me.

[@crazypete3759]

@@---m--- the problem is there are no consequences anymore! These criminals feel free to do what they want because even if they get caught they know it's just a slap on the wrist. If the laws don't change and prosecutors and judges don't start handing down hard sentences, people will get fed up and defend themselves and their property that they worked very hard for! It seems like the only thing these criminals are scared of is getting killed...

[@redbird444]

It’s interesting how a prosecutor might vilify someone risking their life to aid others, yet should one flee to save themselves leaving others to ultimately die, they would be vilified for that. The Kitty Genovese case is a perfect example of criticizing society and bystanders (the bystander effect) for NOT coming to others aid. Just yesterday, a gunman opened fire in an Indiana Mall and I’m sure it could be argued the citizen who killed him could have fled. He might have even put a round in his back in the heat of the situation. The individual is being called a hero and I expect no prosecution, even if those possibilities are true. IMO, once one displays a deadly weapon, especially a firearm and are threatening others, they forfeit consideration of safety by those placed into a position of defense because of it.

[@budala1969]

_"The individual is being called a hero and I expect no prosecution"_ Think again... never underestimate the stupidity and demagogy of the left. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYG2qJePlN6Ce68&ab_channel=LangleyOutdoorsAcademy

[@miloperator]

100% correct!

[@NathanP711]

I agree. Many of our laws are set up to allow criminals to do whatever they want while law abiding citizens are forced to run and hide.

[@LegendStormcrow]

They are still arguing the hero is in the wrong.

[@JohnDoe-wt9ek]

Its worse because the NPC's are trying to paint the guy who stopped an active shooter is in the wrong for having a weapon in a Gun Free Zone... Despite the fact that said active shooter also entered the same premises. With an AK. I genuinely believe they're angry. Not because he had a gun. But because he stopped a beneficial crisis that could have been further used to politicize gun control measures... It reinforces the "Good guy with a gun stops bad guy with a gun" argument. Instead of waiting on police.

[@westondavis1682]

More of these. These types of scenarios and analysis help you train your mind to know what to do and when to do it rather than purely guessing and hoping that your actions are defensible in an irrational system.

[@Mok3sp33d]

@TheCuteAndrew The robbers killed the cashier for no reason. Would you feel comfortable with them taking your significant other as a hostage?

[@adamsauceda1164]

@TheCuteAndrew Thats sad man. Id never let anyone run off with any of family members id glady sit in jail or die to stop that from happening

[@adamsauceda1164]

@TheCuteAndrew To each their own. I don’t condemn you for your choices I just have different beliefs

[@colehoornbeek0406]

@TheCuteAndrew For you, you would rather trust someone else to take care of your loved one and not yourself? I would rather pay the price and get it done myself than have to rely on police to do it with the possibility they don't save my loved one

[@ericcasper2344]

@TheCuteAndrew what’s the average response time for police calls, and who had time to wait for authorities? Put your life in your hands and figure out ways to be prepared bc help will not always be there. More times than not

[@LordSStorm]

I do wish there was more opportunity for regular people to go through this kind of training.

[@MrUrmother22]

There is, you just got to caught up the cash lol

[@HaloDude557]

@@MrUrmother22 the nearest force on force training place to me is a 2 hour drive north and even still they market it towards law enforcement so I don't know if they do classes on the side for individuals

[@refraggedbean]

Honestly I would love that, it would be a good thing for a lot of regular people to practice with this, because Ive first hand seen the actions of trained vs untrained people, when the store I worked at got robbed I was the one who took charge and tried to keep us safe by de-escalating the situation and saying the best I could to make sure the robbers were satisfied and dont shoot anyone, though we didnt have access to the register because of a cash shortage and the manager being out for the day, which really made it difficult because my priority was nobody gets hurt, meanwhile while Im trying to keep my nerves in check (which was really hard because the closest to real world training under stress, rather than just in an office for training, was airsoft, which is nothing compared to this) and follow my training my untrained coworkers panicked, made multiple sudden movements, etc, and Im surprised theyre still alive, if all of us had training (and we had something to give the robbers because their goal was money) it would have been a safer situation, and thats just how a very difficult situation was, the training in the video would very well help with situations where de-escalation is less of an option or where the goal isn't to take property (because if the goal is property, just give it, property can be replaced, life can't), such as if someone is being abducted or its someone there for murder

[@Thomas-Skaa]

you can. you just need to pay for it

[@horustrismegistus1017]

There is. Video, airsoft, paintball, force on force

[@ryanhale4116]

Bad guy gets to chose weapon, mag capacity, time, place, when and where, whether or not he uses force and how much…defenders are faced with having to justify EVERYTHING they do. Always on defense and a step behind. If I was a defense attorney I’d get tired of saying “hey, if bad guy doesn’t bring a gun and pull it out and rob the place, we don’t even have to have this conversation!”

[@dennisyoung6122]

Yep, you have to prove your innocence, which is against everything our courts are supposed to be about.

[@fastfed]

Still rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6

[@ryanhale7063]

And the changes you face are the ones usually plea bargained down for the bad guy (discharging a fire arm in city limits, brandishing, reckless endangerment, etc)

[@tchin2020]

Plus the bad guys can win a multi-million dollars lawsuit for a wrongful act, while the victim is scrutinized negatively and paying close to half million for lawyers fees… crime does pay in USA.

[@FazeParticles]

The judiciary is thoroughly full of sh*t and ignore stand your ground laws

[@BackcountryProfessor]

Huge respect to Colion for being willing to film his scenario and feedback. Solid, brother.

[@BackcountryProfessor]

Is this legit, the real you @colion

[@nosebleed7389]

@@BackcountryProfessor no its not legit its a bot

[@BackcountryProfessor]

@@nosebleed7389 yes. Definitely a bot.

[@crank1422]

As a former police officer, I’m amazed that there is this much hindsight applied to civilians just trying to do the right thing. I worked in Shreveport, LA, one of the more violent mid-sized cities, and I truly believe that the prosecutors I worked with would not have gone to those lengths to try to bring charges against a Good Samaritan who just saw a cashier get smoked, and then shot the suspect in the back during a gunfight. We were taught in the police academy to never fire on a fleeing suspect unless there was an imminent threat against someone else the suspect may come across during the flight. If he just shot a cashier, then engaged in a gunfight inside a coffee shop, I highly doubt he was going to give up his life of crime when he exited the store. I don’t know where this scenario was initiated, but I cannot imagine a conviction based on charges brought in this situation. That being said, this scenario reinforced my beliefs in just being a good witness until you or your family is in danger, because I’m sure this is a real life event numerous times a year. Thank you very much for this video. It’s an excellent situation based training that everyone carrying a firearm should consider.

[@muddywaters0819]

But in reality could you just sit around with someone waving a firearm?Just a bad situation.

[@crank1422]

@@muddywaters0819 Absolutely. Bad situation all the way around. And you bring up an excellent point. No way I could just sit there if I’m to be 100% honest. But it’s gotten to the point where that thought has to cross your mind before you draw/fire, and that’s even more dangerous. I just hope I never have to face that scenario.

[@fleebin2794]

The fact that a citizen can be charged with a crime when stopping a murderer is beyond unacceptable. That needs to change.

[@angrydadgaming148]

That’s probably why bad guys have so much confidence

[@FNG_Star]

What the slimy lawyer in this video did was blur the lines between duty to retreat states and stand your ground states. In most states where the vast majority of ccw holders live there is no duty to retreat and this shooting is considered justified. These USCCA videos are aimed at making people in stated with stand your ground laws and no duty to treat fear use of force like they live in commifornia or new york so they will buy insurance. Its sales via fearmongering.

[@inpalpatine2067]

He was not a murderer. He did not murder anybody. He did not even get any shots off. The penalty for robbery is not death. the penalty for armed robbery is not death. In most places the penalty for murder is not death. The issue here is who had the right to self-defense against the threat of death or great bodily harm? And as the prosecutor/defense attorney points out there is a legitimate question as to whether or not the bad guy had the right to self-defense because the guy on the couch may have pulled out the first gun and pointed it at the bad guy who was startled and reacted by pulling out his gun... In self-defense. At which point there was a (ever so brief) standoff with no shooting until Colion started shooting.

[@nasvsan6191]

@@inpalpatine2067 dont rob you wont die

[@shogunofsorrow787]

@@inpalpatine2067 one of the few people that get it

[@johnhardy9935]

Colion, please continue with these real life segments. Great situational awareness.

[@blakelara669]

M 00ml9pjok

[@masterchief167]

Agreed

[@blakelara669]

Well I'm glad my phone opened this up on its own, found a reply, and had a stroke writing a comment lol. Good video and very informative, I'd like to take a class like this myself.

[@ajsans9161]

I found it strange though that Colin said that he shot 3 times and the reenactment had him shooting more. However the way the reenactment played out wasn’t the way Colion reacted. Colion almost immediately began walking sideways towards the cashier. The reenactment did not show that.

[@RockyMountainBear]

"It is not about the truth. It's about what you can prove." Dang, that second scenario really highlights the importance of proper *concealed* carry. What would have happened, if one of the bad guys had seen a firearm on Colion's hip?

[@Alex-jf4ui]

No kidding. Open carry is fine as a political statement, but practically all it means is you're gonna be the first to go.

[@frope01]

Very true. Also shows the importance of being able to quickly and effectively deploy your weapon from concealment. Practice practice practice.

[@bullyboy131]

@@Alex-jf4ui Not always. It can deter as well.

[@BB-1990]

@@bullyboy131 If someone walks in to a place hellbent on harming people and they see you are armed. You will be targeted first and not have much of a chance.

[@bullyboy131]

@@BB-1990 Defenders need to always be alert. Keep your head on a swivel.

[@elmateo77]

When armed robbers have a right to claim self defense you know your society is deeply broken...

[@gavinbaker3886]

In the state of Ohio, they dont. This lawyer is a fuckin wack job for saying that.

[@micheled6284]

You know the end is near. Society is dark and barbaric, coming through our judicial system.

[@paulfaggart3423]

The fact that the law can be manipulated in order to put people who act in defense of themselves or others in prison makes me angry.

[@Lethal_Bite]

Yet it doesn't make you angry when the law works, and those who unjustifiably murder others do go to prison. The law shouldn't and can't be manipulated. For a jury to convict it must be unanimous agreement without a doubt. Innocent until proven guilty. While there are edge cases where the jury got it wrong, 99% of the time, if it was defense, you will be found innocent.

[@TheHylianJuggalo]

@@Lethal_Bite Bullshit, look at how they treated Kyle. Sure, he got off, but look at how the "Perception" came out. No matter the truth, we have half the country that denies it. Perception can absolutely fuck an innocent person.

[@MasterYoist]

@@Lethal_Bite Perhaps you are not familiar with the case where the prosecutor was able to stack the jury with black supremists to convict a white officer that was doing his job exactly as he was trained to do. Don't bother asking who this was, the prosecutor and jurors openly bragged about doing it. And the judge sentenced the case as if it was lawful justice rendered.

[@Lethal_Bite]

@@MasterYoist You are correct that I don't know the case you are talking about. Maybe the Derick Chauvin trial? Which while you may not agree with the ruling, he may not have been 100% blameless and entirely innocent. Congrats on proving my point though about there being a couple edge cases. That less than 0.01% of cases really shakes my faith in the justice system. Of course, for every Chauvin, there are more than 100 Rittenhouse cases.

[@rev.brotherjohn2191]

That is the reason there was dueling, if it was legalized there wouldn't be these zealots flouting the law.

[@stevenlowers3596]

Scenario 1: "He could have left" Yeah, everyone run and leave the clerk alone with the gunman. When will our justice system stop prosecuting victims? We have got to stop empowering criminals.

[@StonerdMudbone]

I know. That made me really angry. Like oh am I supposed to just say fuck everyone else but me? If you pull a gun on someone in aggression thay should be a forfeiture of your life. Can't believe we have these leftist DA's who hate the fact we have the right to carry so badly they create these insane hoops to try and attack decent people.

[@flintymcduff5417]

When we have an actual justice system again. So in our case probably never.

[@OceanAce]

California: Finally! The scroll of truth! Scroll of truth: Stop empowering criminals California: (Tosses it)

[@songsthatarecatchy]

They're literally telling you what a prosecutor could bring up. It's common sense. For me I would run

[@songsthatarecatchy]

Incarceration rates prove that we're locking people up.

[@christoney2491]

In 1987 my wife and I unknowingly walked into an armed robbery in progress. We were taken at gunpoint, tied up and laid face down in a back room and held hostage for 30 minutes. I wasn't armed. Even if I were, I would have had no opportunity to draw my weapon. I experienced every emotion you can conceive of. Just like Colion, it was anger, fear, anger and fear. The effects never really dissipate, even decades later. All I know is that I never want to experience that again without at least having an option to defend myself and my loved ones.

[@billbbobby2889]

Thank you for sharing your story with all of us and being an honest, concerned American. It's people like you that make this a great country.

[@dannypierce9528]

Wow I tell people all the time that I’d rather have it and not need it cus things can happen so fast

[@phl_knives]

Thank you for sharing your story. That's such a horrible situation when you have no opportunity to fight back and held. It is hard to process after. (I won't use to much detail in my situation) I lived in a sketchy area, I was working on my carry permit at the time. 1 guy in my neighborhood thought another guy ratted him out for something. No idea what. Don't care. He pulled an illegal gun on the guy pretty much at my front door as I was stepping out. Well guy with the gun pointed at him ducked behind a car and someone else yelled. So bad guy realized he was in the open with a gun as cops came down the street, a few blocks away. All in a split second to process the gun was turned to me, finger on the trigger ( tip up Beretta, I will never forget it) he pushed me in my house. Made me sit and kept the gun trained on me while I tried to de-esculate the situation. Cops outside my door, walking around the street and this guy said make a sound and I will f#cking kill you. He was serious. He waited what felt like a lifetime to look out the window. At this point it was clear of police but he didn't want to leave. He became more irrational and pulled the slide to chamber a round to aim at me and ejected the round in the chamber. Now I knew for sure he was loaded. A few more mins of talking this psychopath down and told him to go out the back. He turned one last time and aimed at my face and said he would end me if I called the cops. I knew my area and response time, the instability of this lunatic. I realized if the cops came back on the street I might get clipped even if I didn't call. Once he was out of sight the adrenaline really hit. At the moment I was stupidly calm or maybe it was realizing if I was acting upset he would become worse. God only knows. A few weeks later he was arrested for other charges and I forgot about the round he ejected until I was cleaned under the couch one night. Seeing that was a gut punch reminded of how lucky I was. I vowed to leave that area and never be defenseless again. In the months following that area went full 3rd world country. I got out right after a burglary while I was in the process of relocating. I still have that round he ejected as a reminder of being thankful for everyday and how seriously I need to take the security of the ones I love and myself. Still to this day I believe if I had tried to fight back or made an attempt to alert police he would have killed me on the spot. I can't say why for security reasons but I believe he was capable of it after hearing things I believe he us still in prison for today. I know this seems like a lot of details, I left out a lot of what would identify me in this event. That was one of the scariest moments of my life and thank God my GF at the time didn't walk in the door while this was playing out. She would have made this wayyy worse. On occasion when I got for a range day or a training I look at the round. Not very often does someone hold the bullet that was meant for them. Sobering feeling for sure.

[@kylecook4806]

9 month pregnant sister and I where caught in a robbery in a Subway sandwich shop, we ran and hid on the bathroom floor while the guy robbed the place. Shots where fired but no one was hurt. After the fact the cashier told us he'd been robbed multiple times while working there and we overheard him quiting his job then and there, when we where talking to the police we learned that the robber was just going up the street robbing places all morning, we never learned if they caught the guy, and we never got any follow-up on the matter. Every time I think about it, it's the feeling of helpless that lingers. A law won't protect you, a cop isn't going to always be there. In my mind, if such a vast majority of people are good, and then such a vast majority of people are armed, we'd all be safer for it. I very much plan on being a gun owner in the foreseeable future, as you perfectly said, to never experience that again without at least having the option to defend myself and my loved ones.

[@phl_knives]

@@kylecook4806 Damn. That's a rough one. I explained a very similar feeling being held at gun point in my house above. That helpless feeling is horrible. I still get it some when I think about it but being armed now really does take some of that away. Even knowing someone may get the drop on you, you know that split second window you have you aren't helpless. If you have the ability to carry and own I would encourage you to do so. Get training in real world scenarios like this and medical. It helps so much with the helplessness. If you can't fight back at least you know you did all that you could with what you had.

[@JuniorWA]

if i was in this situation i would have folded from being forced to talk to a girl and left before the threat even raised

[@Old_Guard2]

Mood

[@SergioMartinez-xv9tt]

Dude when the girl said, the guy cheated on her with his sister i was so confused and i wasnt even the guy, and i was like i didnt!😂😂😂

[@ryanbulloch3407]

me as fuck

[@keeranimal8]

The fact that we even need vids like this shows exactly how messed up the system is, and that ultimately, a lot of the lawyers are the problem (no offense Colion!!)

[@arthurayers5044]

100% agree. it's the lawyers. they don't care about right or wrong, only putting more people into cages.

[@007kingifrit]

it's sick we value the lives of a criminal equal to the citizen

[@LightBrand]

@@007kingifrit that's the two edge sword of living in a country where they can't prosecute you before you commit the crime. If the potential criminal shot and is middle of killing people, making him actual criminal and you shot and killed him. You're free 100% of time you don't even need a lawyer for any sort of obvious defense. If the potential criminal was just threatening to shoot the employers and whatnot and you took the first shot. You're on the hook as you should be because that guy hasn't committed a crime worthy of being shot and killed before you shot and killed him preemptively. In a country where if it's "okay" to kill someone to prevent a potential crime from happening before it happens. Well the guy is dead, doesn't matter if it's found out later the killing is justified or not and is ripe for tyrannical abuse.

[@007kingifrit]

@@LightBrand we value human life too much, that is independent of the concept of innocent till proven guilty cmmon sense let's us tell he was robbing a store we don't need some deep analytical or philosophical principle

[@LightBrand]

@@007kingifrit you are still innocent until guilty. The prosecutor is proving your guilt of homicide by showing the available evidence. Be it testimony or video footage and your defense is it's not a homicide it's self defense or whatever. And the video and I is trying to convey that line which will determine the verdict lies with "can you shoot first to prevent someone from shooting and get away with it" because now we never know if that guy was going to shoot because you stopped him but you definitely shot. He's robbing store sure whatever if he grabbed money and left it's insurance's and police's problem. Which is why the 2nd scenario it's easier on the defense and hard for prosecutor to pin any guilt on you.

[@calciums175]

I feel that something important to discuss, is the importance of "NEVER talking to the police or the prosecution". This is just as important as making sure your use of force is justified. Dropping info, like the 3 vs 8 shots in the first scenario, is entirely possible, and the police/prosecution WILL use that against you. And just like you don't talk to the police, you never testify as a defendant! For lawyers, questioning people is their career, you don't stand a chance. They will pound any evidence against you to get any sort of evidence of wrongdoing to the court. The only things you should ever say to the police when they are questioning you are: 1.I wish to remain silent 2.I want a lawyer Anything else is just asking to be thrown in jail. We have the right to remain silent in this country, so use it damn it, and shut up!

[@WigsxD]

And you should not even give a formal statement to the police until you've had 3 nights of sleep after a defensive shooting. That is something that is taught in CCW classes. And definitely have an attorney present.

[@jrobinson5661]

Saying it was self defense/defending others is ok if that is all you do say, so the order for me is: 1. It was self defense/defending others (not another word after this statement) 2. I wish to remain silent 3. I want a lawyer

[@WigsxD]

@@jrobinson5661 Well said. You want to say as little as possible to the police after a self defense shooting. In this scenario the cops are your adversary. They can use anything you say against you in court. It really is a shame that shooting a bad guy to protect your life puts your freedom on the line. Especially in states that don't have stand your ground laws. Every state should have this law! It is the one thing that can really save your @$$.

[@karlwalter2242]

But unfortunately ppl get mouth diarrhea... and sink themselves yo to their eyeballs in 💩💩💩.

[@karlwalter2242]

@@jrobinson5661 All you've to say, I wanna speak to my lawyer now., at that moment you can't talk to you and whatever is said, isn't admissible, when law enforcement says "all you say can ,and will be used against you in a court of law " it ain't a joke, \ you say, I was defending these poor folks, the DA will jump and say, "Oh so you felt like you had to be their savior, the hero" , and oh shitty, you did said that you self proclaimed to be their savior, see? ... I've been in court fighting for my freedom, being innocent ,chained up from head to toe, heck i looked like freaking Hannibal Lecter, I got demonized deemed a danger to society, and that's the way law enforcement still sees me till this day , and when I saw the way those DAs twist things around, I almost fainted, seeing myself wearing those shackles and chains for years... all for defending myself without thinking... no gun was utilized..

[@YarHarFD]

Puts into perspective how ON IT Rittenhouse was with remembering everything and getting his facts straight, waiting until the very last possible second.

[@landenx]

Seriously, he was on point!

[@etchediniron4249]

It’s sad that rittenhouse was “punished” by the trial process

[@bryanduchane2371]

He was amazing in his self defense actions and in his trial. Amazing young man to have acted so correct given the situations...

[@johnmcvey4243]

@@etchediniron4249 And the fact numerous evidence came out proving Rittenhouse in the right and they still didn't care.

[@joshuajefferson3504]

That whole rittenhouse trial was basically character assassination of a man who was defending himself. 😐😐😐

[@cincomxntana3938]

Good thing about the southern states with “Stand Your Ground” this law eliminates the duty to retreat and you can ACTUALLY DEFEND yourself and/or loved one

[@Rowgue51]

Most states actually have stand your ground as part of their laws. But don't make the mistake of thinking it means something that it doesn't. All stand your ground means is that your state's laws don't require you to attempt to retreat as a necessary element of a valid self defense claim. It does NOT mean that the fact that you didn't make an attempt to retreat cannot be considered as a factor in determining whether your self defense claim is valid. If you had a clear opportunity to retreat or otherwise avoid the fight and chose not to the prosecutor will absolutely make the argument that any reasonable person would have in same circumstances. They will be allowed to make that argument and the jury will be allowed to consider it. Because it can be relevant to all of the critical factors of a valid self defense claim. Namely that you were not the aggressor, that the level of force you used was proportional to the threat, and that your actions were reasonable under the circumstances.

[@cincomxntana3938]

@@Rowgue51 your comment is kind of invalid. I say that only because the state can argue anything they want, the law is the law. I in fact won a murder trial due to stand your ground so I got to experience the way the law works first hand.

[@Rowgue51]

@@cincomxntana3938 The law is the law. But you're misunderstanding what the law actually means.

[@cincomxntana3938]

@@Rowgue51 how can I misunderstand something I’ve experienced myself

[@Rowgue51]

@@cincomxntana3938 It happens all the time.

[@Isaac-hm5ef]

I think it's insane that we are expected to thread the needle in situations like these. I'm sure people die because garbage like this breeds hesitation. If someone draws down on you it should be a clear cut justification to shoot them. If they have already shot someone indiscriminately, it should be clear cut justification to shoot them. How many people are they allowed to shoot before someone who could end the threat (you) is allowed to act? This makes me angry.

[@maxfalconi6995]

100%

[@yamasail]

And then they have the gall to say condescending things like "where were all the so-called good guys with a gun?" if nobody stops it.

[@guu3002]

I doubt it I bet most people if it really comes to that for them think "id rather be in jail for twenty years than fucking die right now"

[@sammyg4806]

My advice, take down the perp and save your life. Hesitation can cost you your life. Deal with the legal consequences later. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[@eldiablo7862]

Also, say nothing to the police until you speak with an attorney. Some are clueless to their own state's laws while others believe they are the only ones that should have guns. Be polite, ID yourself, and request an ambulance to be taken to the ER for ringing ears, shortness of breath, anxiety or anything else you may be suffering from and not realize it. It will give you time to gather your thoughts on what happened while waiting for a lawyer.

[@codycriswell]

The 1 resounding thing I take from every one of these scenarios: I hope I NEVER have to be in a situation like this.

[@shawnmchenry9697]

Hope for the but but always be prepared for the worst.

[@PerplexedPhoton]

@@shawnmchenry9697 That's why I never leave the house without my Chapstick, chapped lips are the worst.

[@122756ABC]

Always deescalate or run it if you safely can and don’t forget, this video is an advertisement.

[@InfamousOne158]

Amen

[@alatrice112]

Facts

[@Nordic_E.T.]

This had me hyped. I couldn't imagine being in this situation. I am a member of USCCA and I pull in all the people I can to make sure they know what they need to know. Noir, the way you responded in these situations was amazing. My heart was going off watching. Thank you!!

[@USCCAOfficial]

Thank you for being a part of the USCCA family. We are happy to have you.

[@TheInfantry98]

Your obviously are very sheltered and have no idea how real life combat works.

[@bdk316]

Do more of these please, ppl that carry really need to be educated when its ok to draw... wish ranges would hold classes like this too

[@chriskoch3283]

That was a great training situation... that being said.. the laws and legal views need some changing... when a gun is pulled ur life is now in danger... getting shot in the back is the risk u take when u r committing a crime.. there should be no repercussions towards the person who shot the criminal..

[@howardbaxter2514]

That’s exactly it. The second someone points a gun at me or near my direction, is the second I see a violation of one of rules of gun safety. I’m gonna 100% assume that that intention behind that gun is to shoot and kill me. Point blank.

[@TheInfantry98]

Nope your going to prison for 1st degree murder

[@stayfly68]

I said the same when I first watched this… these laws in a way help the criminal because it makes people who need to defend themselves or someone else less likely to take the shot

[@rev.brotherjohn2191]

Wow I hope Noir gets in contact with Mike Glover and redo this whole thing. If I could I would take it down as it stands.

[@exisfohdr3904]

Second scenario: the need for lethal force derives from the blatant killing of the cashier. The assailant displayed that he is willing to and has already possibly killed a person. Them taking the girlfriend sets up continued likely possibility of loss of life if she remains in the possesion of the assailants. Continuinging to fire can be justified because there were 2 assailants, both armed.

[@sqnhunter]

@Guido De Based 1561 Kidnapping does come under the forcible felony rule in most states. (I did day most states.... still some libs haven't budged on what constitutes a threat there) The history of kidnapping has shown us that more than 50% of the victims end up dead...so it is reasonable to fear loss of life in an attempt. Deadly force is allowable for a third party in such cases.

[@austinpage9463]

I mean they are still deadly threats until they leave the building in scenario 2. Even if they put down their weapons. They might have another weapon.

[@mckennaConfig]

@Guido De Based 1561 it is in my state

[@tjlevi7912]

@Guido De Based 1561 it’s a forcible felony

[@jamesgrantham7281]

What would happen if he ran up and just kicked them in the back instead? They'd just let her go without turning around and shooting back? I believe you had to shoot or they were getting away with her.

[@KyuketsukiRei]

Honestly the fact that our country has a line this thins should be illegal. When we allow criminals a right to self defense in the middle of omitting a crime is beyond me. The moment you involve a deadly weapon in a crime your right to self defense should be forfeit. No one in the heat of the moment should have to consider spending years of their life behind bars because they're trying to protect themselves or others from a criminal with a weapon. Our legal system only ever seems to work against good people these days while letting the criminals out easy.

[@donfierro777]

Hence, criminal justice system...

[@unclecracker5010]

This is what happens when you have colleges and law schools and politicians doing nothing more than pushing for eliminating the 2nd Amendment and every other Amendment in our CONSTITUTION. The system only seems rigged against Law Abiding Citizens because Citizens are against Law Abiding AMERICANS!!!!

[@Aaronaku]

exactly I was shaking my head the whole time

[@GodGunsGills]

The person should never even step in a courtroom period, and even if so no prosecutor should take the case

[@morganplisken7271]

Well never vote democrat and innocent people will be less likely to be prosecuted for putting a career criminal in the dirt.

[@okieshortriderz]

Colion, your honesty in this is well appreciated. Every situation is totally different.

[@steveriley1000]

It’s crazy to think the prosecutor gets to Monday quarterback frame by frame without the adrenaline and fears of what you had to deal with in just seconds with fear and anxiety and adrenaline pumping . And they get to decide your fate without going through the same. And for the medical examination to be used to decide which round killed them . Crazy

[@martinidemon]

“The shot to the back……” Why is this a question? It seemed apparent the man was about to try and commit an armed robbery. Even if the alleged criminal was fleeing, he still had a gun in his hand. Could he have started shooting behind him as he was fleeing? Yes. There was a cop killer here in NYC who was on a bicycle with a handgun while fleeing from the cops. As he was pedaling away he shot multiple times behind him. One of the shots traveled 70 yards and struck a police officer between the eyes killing him instantly. Was the perp a threat while fleeing with a firearm? Yes.

[@soaringeag1392]

Not just an armed robbery, but also attempted kidnapping, that changes the scenario

[@martinidemon]

@@soaringeag1392 that was the second scenario

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

@@soaringeag1392 I think OP meant in the first scenario where the Perp was running for the back door.

[@soaringeag1392]

@@Eye_Of_Odin978 that probably is the case, especially since the first scenario had the "perp" not fire, and instead retreated when faced with resistance

[@Mendrawza24]

It's a dumb presumption based on old chivalric ideas that it's dishonorable to attack a fleeing enemy. The problem is that the enemy is not chivalrous and doesn't care about honor.

[@redblankie1219]

This is scary. Even though everyone was acting, this seemed scary that it could happen at any moment while just at the store. Now do one where the robber has a knife.

[@Chris-0113]

It made my heart beat fast and adrenaline pump for sure. I think I was almost as startled as Colion.

[@michaeldanielespinoza5033]

I like how real it was, like one of the bystanders had airpods in, like this could truely happen at any time and you have to go from unprepared to prepared in a second

[@wacobeer6469]

Should have the same outcome. The weapon used is irrelevant.

[@tomthetitan3697]

@@wacobeer6469 from a legal sense a predatory prosecutor could argue that it wasn’t a deadly threat to you because you were x distance away. I would argue in defense of a third person, the cashier but it could still happen that you get prosecuted.

[@thebluestig2654]

Blades can kill faster than a gun can. Just a single cut a quarter inch deep in the right place and it's unconscious in 30 seconds, gone forever in 1 minute. Literally the ONLY thing that changes with a blade is that the news will still say the bad guy was "unarmed" because he didn't have a gun, it already happened multiple times in the media. You'll lose the case on the news, but a Biology expert can help you win the case in court as long as the judge is competent and not a coward.

[@MasWasThere]

At the end of the day. Every man for himself. If you can escape, get tf out. Sounds messed up, but these laws will screw you in the long run for trying to do right… your chances are way better protecting yourself and your family on/in your property

[@tonyroslund]

Sad but true.

[@alabamamedic5853]

Colion thank you for this along with the USCCA and everyone involved. This was hands down the most thought provoking, question everything you thought you knew video I've seen. You are one of the best in the 2A community and to see your pure emotions and thought process and decision making was amazing and opened my eyes to a whole different thought process.Well done and thank you to everyone that was involved in making this video.

[@patrickcallahan4483]

A common fatal mistake is thinking that criminals use the same decision making and morals as the majority of society. The killing of the cashier is a prime example of how they value, or dont value, life. I hope i can get into some similar training. Solid material sir. Thank you.

[@marlow769]

This video just illustrates that the average citizen must be absolutely PERFECT in his/her use of their firearm but a cop can be absolutely reckless as long as HIS/HER life is in jeopardy.

[@momma3327]

KZbin's going to try to delete this comment, because it's so true.

[@LivingTrueFreedom]

On point

[@2ATactical1776]

Exactly

[@wadewilson8011]

@@momma3327 yeah all Gov't agencies are going to put him on the watch list. KZbin and Twitter will have them deleted within 5 years.

[@HowToGoSupernova]

This is the best comment right here. And the fact that cops have training and civies don't makes it even worse.

[@anthonyobrian2665]

Loved the video! At 8:42, I yelled, “Yeah!” That was perfect! Great sense of judgment in a very difficult situation!

[@PathinAZ]

Been carrying for over 30 yrs, but I still remember a very important lesson we were taught about perception and reality. It involves an actual incident. A man (call him p1) pulls up to a convenience store, and through the window he sees a plain clothed man pointing a gun toward the direction of where the clerk would be, behind the counter. P1 can not see behind the counter, only the armed 'assailant'. Believing he was witnessing an armed robbery, he fired through the window, killing the 'perp'. What he (p1) only found out afterwards, was he shot a plain clothed off duty PO, who had the actual 'perp', who was holding a knife to the clerks throat, at gunpoint. Now, I don't remember what happened (charge wise) to p1, and I know 'any reasonable person' would believe the PO was the assailant. But it taught me a very valuable lesson. Any situation could (& probably will) have multiple unknown/unknowable facts to you pertaining to the circumstances, and you could ruin your life by presumption and acting too quickly or impulsively. These live scenarios are the BEST training. Keep up the great work Colion. Cheers

[@drzpapi413]

Damn what a catch 22. This is why I remind myself, gun is only pulled if my life is in eminent danger and there is no way to escape. Especially living in Massachusetts.

[@Hextin]

This is why i will never draw a weapon unless my life or the life of someone i know is in danger. In that scenario , the guy wasnt even in the store so he had no need to engage. He wasnt in danger. This is why its important to mind your damn business. Dont ever get involved in 3rd party incidents. Its not always clear to tell whos the good or bad guy. And its actually more dangerous than if you were directly involved.

[@BezmenovDisciple]

@@Hextin I agree with all of you and am of the same mindset. Unfortunately that only protects us from being the one who accidentally pops the good guy and doesn't protect us from being the good guy who gets popped by the guy who rolls up late to the situation.

[@chrishaugh1655]

@@Hextin mind your business is wrong here. Don't engage is correct, but you should at the very least be immediately dialing 911.

[@caseyb1346]

They could have added that to this scenario too. Like have someone outside the cafe and hear the shots and rush inside. Depending on the timing there's a point where the bad guy is gone, people are on the ground and it's just Colin standing there with his gun out....

[@rydawg750]

Videos like this are incredibly eye opening. Most people think they know how they would act and what they would do in these scenarios. Things rarely play out the way we imagine them going down in our heads though. Keep up the great work Colion!

[@johnlloyddy7016]

A third scenario with a twist would be to get one of the women to be part of the armed robbery and then they put him in a situation where he has to decide whether to shoot her or not. I know most of us would advise him to shoot her if she presents a threat, but in reality, if you've never trained for that particular probability, that split second hesitation a man might make when he realizes he needs to shoot a woman might be all the difference between living and dying.

[@L1berty1776]

I absolutely love how shitty prosecutors have months to look over and analyze the 2 minute situation. And come up with all the possible scenarios meanwhile people in that moment have absolutely no time to react and just do what they can.

[@timothyavendt677]

Yeah, thiers no adrenaline or stress these lawyers and prosecutors have to deal with.

[@lominero5]

@@timothyavendt677 They should be put in similar scenarios and we get to judge them.

[@timothyavendt677]

@@lominero5 and outline, in great detail, thier own "mistakes" and "over reactions" and tell them how they can be prosecuted for saving thier own skins.

[@therogers4432]

Yup. ^THIS^ Well said Sir...

[@L1berty1776]

@@jlinka79 i agree its a double standard. I believe implied immunity should be applied to all or none

[@williamkaiser8490]

I'm a Vietnam veteran and years ago I took the canceled weapons class, I decided not to get the license after all that you have to face if you shoot someone, or places that you cant take a gun. Another issue when you have one in the car. If you can always try to get out of the incident. I still think about the "enemy" human beings in Nam !PTSD is still effecting me 53 years later!

[@GettingthruLife]

I took the class with the intention of getting my concealed license but upon further consideration due to the courts/jury/legal system I came to the conclusion that better for me to not carry a firearm and face prison for what boils down to a difference of opinion. In this time we are in now, last 5 years, better to evade the threat or use another type of force to de-escalate the situation. Sad it has come to this but it's where we have come.

[@aliennetwork08]

Still I think it’s worth getting. prison or not I am not willing to loose my life with no chance to fight back. What I’m saying is don’t you think it’s better just to have it yes go the other direction and avoid conflict and things like that but you can still do that with it. Idk I think it’s best to get it rather have it and have the chance as opposed to none.

[@RJAZ89]

@@GettingthruLifethank you for writing this. I recently purchased a hand gun and got my concealed carry permit and after some thought and deliberation I came to the same conclusion. I will continue to do my best to avoid confrontations and be street smart, which has served me well for 33 years of life. My handgun has now been relegated to a locking safe and the occasional range day. To me, court hearings and possible prison time is on par if not worse than taking “the long nap”

[@MrFixItGa]

Our county sheriff's department does a citizen's firearm fundamentals class. They have a fancy simulator that they give you time on. It's very enlightening and a great training tool.

[@philippetz6691]

That's an awesome idea, I'm abit envious.

[@Censortubes]

That is a great idea actually. Any chance drop the county? Hoping its mine lol .

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

@@Censortubes Check with your sheriffs office. If they don't do this, ask them to consider it a public service.

[@MrFixItGa]

@@Censortubes Coweta County Georgia

[@SHadowKillerDj]

Love this segment. Would love to see more of these hypothetical situations and learn what is proper use of self-defense vs what could get me locked up for life.

[@sword-and-shield]

Too much variance. Your better served finding out how your own state and local jurisdiction handles the use of deadly force. There are records, what is viable in one area might not be in another. This will help you know how to decide when to act, or not act. Then there is investigation into what you should do once you act, this study is across all shootings anywhere, and that focus is around what the statistics show concerning actions that increases your odds to SURVIVE the scenario once you have decided to act.

[@HodgePodge218]

When some "big brained" guy in a cozy safe room can spend hours picking apart situations you had seconds to decide you know we have problems. We need to recognize that and call it what it is

[@deadshot4245]

Yep I’d aim higher lol just to be an asshole and say assholes get asshole treatment in real life hit the head

[@hanzbrixx]

That's my thought. Any prosecutor who starts this conversation doesn't deserve that job.

[@jdsc12341]

Yes! It’s BULLSHIT !!!

[@vrcmf3172]

The fact is we have these laws for a reason. Many self defense shootings are not “Self Defense” the first shooting was unjustified as he could have left AND the gun was pointed at someone else (who was also armed) Nothing to do with a big brain guy in a cozy safe room. It’s just what the law considers reasonable

[@HodgePodge218]

@@vrcmf3172 that's my whole point you are adding a lot of conjecture to what was happening It's OK to debate and reason or argue things but it's very skewed imo

[@dormaniavenue]

I would honestly pay good money to do this every weekend. Call me crazy but im Texan. Its getting wild over here. This would be good for learning and practicing alot with handling situations. Much needed for anyone.

[@t.c.2776]

It's getting wild all over this Country... it's really INSANE when supposed anti-gun, anti-violence, peace loving LIBERALS want to WANT TO KILL YOU TO STOP VIOLENCE.... LMAO.... these people need to be locked up in an insane asylum and medicated... if that's to inhumane, then put them out on an exotic resort island and let them eat each other...

[@TheLawlessGang]

texas is horrible city life is as worst as ive ever seen .

[@bruh-so8vp]

@@TheLawlessGang and where do you live boy?

[@NoLeakz]

You get milliseconds to make the right decision in a scenario you are or are not trained for, but the lawyers get all the time and all the evidence to present to jurors, that probably know nothing about this situation, who get hours to decide your fate, all without a gun to their heads.

[@stevenvonsoosten207]

That pretty much sums up what it's like being a cop

[@austinlance7206]

@@stevenvonsoosten207 no it doesn't.

[@stevenvonsoosten207]

@@austinlance7206 I've been a cop for 7 years lol yes it does

[@ma-tn7lz]

@@stevenvonsoosten207 because we don’t train the police. At least police have qualified immunity and unions to protect them. Citizens do not

[@Mendrawza24]

This is the kind of training that needs to be made easily available to the public for CCW classes. Not just a few shots downrange, but working on defensive situations like this, so people can understand what they might get into, and train for appropriate responses.

[@brookjohnson8216]

Just curious… for an 8 hour class like this how much would you be willing to pay? I am a firearms instructor and I’ve been contemplating getting my simunition instructor certification.

[@Jwxx13]

@@brookjohnson8216 me personally, $100-200 honestly.. because A supplies, and B; the people that provide the simunition and the “extras” unless you could add the people in the class as extras. That’s my input.

[@brookjohnson8216]

@@Jwxx13 I appreciate it. I’ve had pretty extensive training using simunitions. It’s is a very effective training tool.

[@Jwxx13]

@@brookjohnson8216 we have used simunition once at my unit, and it’s fantastic for CQB

[@dopeaf129]

$250

[@drmnez]

I don’t understand why courts try to defense bad people. If a cop did what Colion did I bet the cop wouldn’t have anything to worry about

[@Christopher33312]

I vote you do this one day a week for the next few years! Excellent ☺️

[@ZarkowsWorld]

Police officers are protected by the law - normal people are not. And the people in power hate that anyone but the government storm-troopers have a right to violence, they want to have absolute monopoly on it.

[@wod5203]

The Police have a blanket immunity clause, or a different set of rules they are allowed to operate by. As to your first point, it is a legal principle called Innocent Until PROVEN Guilty. Most countries use the opposite approach of Guilty until PROVEN innocent.

[@asktheetruscans9857]

@@wod5203 innocent until proven guilty, ha! Tell that to the IRS if they freeze and seize all your assets BEFORE going to court or even arresting you...leaving you with zero resources for defense or even bail. Better have some wealthy, real friends!

[@Chris-0113]

Well, it's a constitutional right. You have the right to defense and are innocent until PROVEN guilty. But I get what you're saying. This clown world we live in now is so twisted and perverse. People (particularly attorneys and prosecutors) have secret motives.

[@SRFDriver]

I have a question regarding the second scenario: So the fact that the cashier was murdered in the first few seconds of the scenario does NOT automatically give the "good guy" the right to engage the threat at any time (BEFORE his girlfriend was kidnapped) in order to protect his life and that of the others? That's the important question for me.

[@Nano0k]

In the vid he mentions that, but it's not a smart play to draw from seated concealment against two armed standing BGs.

[@brianhansen6906]

They kinda muddied the waters talking about if they were still holding the girls hand when colion shot. The second they walked in waving a gun declaring a robbery everyone in the place was in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm. This was only made more clear when they popped the clerk. At any time colion would have been justified to shoot. Idk why they weren’t more clear about that.

[@moroccocornelisonjr7642]

Its the money. Follow the money and you get your answers

[@DRK67]

I constantly keep my head on a swivel and constantly run scenarios in my head in different situations but running them in your head doesn’t compare to this type of training. I would love to do this training course! Training and preparedness is key to survival!!

[@MrFixItGa]

You just made me feel a little better about myself. Lol I do the same thing. I thought I was strange. I get asked all the time by friends and family why I'm so "nosey". 🤣 Like those times I recognize the same truck across town or the same people from the last store that are in the store with us now. I try to explain to them that it's called situational awareness.

[@DRK67]

@@MrFixItGa situational awareness will keep you alive!!! Always be prepared!!!

[@chloemccarthy2297]

I appreciate learning how this is viewed in court and how to properly self and publicly defend, but god do I feel angry knowing how the scenario could be argued in court against the defender. Why do we have legislation that makes subduing violent people legally risky?

[@megalelan100]

For-profit prisons. The more people that get convicted of arbitrary laws, the more money they make, and the more kickbacks legislators get for putting people in there.

[@IluvinortheIneffable]

Probably to protect people from being falsely accused of being violent when they weren’t. We get to see the training scenario with our own eyes. Police dont, judges dont, and the public doesnt either. It protects people from being murdered by bad actors.

[@latetotheparty7551]

This shows how divorced from reality the legal system is from real world effects of self defense encounters. Memory is very malleable, especially under stress so it's not a good way to gauge veracity but is still treated as reliable in such circumstances. Shot placement (e.g. in the back) devoid of circumstances, such as the demonstrated one, also show how much context matters. First scene: A guy who pulls a gun and threatens an armed robbery happens to retreat after encountering armed resistance, and is shot in the back, doesn't mean that shot was bad. We know that the time it takes to process a change in a dynamic scene is, on the shorter side, about a quarter second, and a lot can change in that duration, especially when multiple people are involved who are reacting to the same scene. The Force Science Institute does good research about such. Scenario two: Great on Noir for closing the gap but a sh!!ty DA could go after him because the deadly threat wasn't imminent with his friend. This is good training that I'd like to have one day and I agree with other commenters that every person in the legal system should have to undergo such. These events happen so quickly and usually last seconds, not minutes, in the private citizen context. Again, I stress, that's lost when the legal system goes through things frame by frame devoid of much needed context.

[@quietyou9980]

5:29...this is why we need to have a return to our courts being a "justice system" as opposed to a "legal system". These are questions that really shouldn't being asked.

[@knightlyvirtue]

I'm grateful you and USCCA are putting out content like this. Just carrying a gun with out thinking things like this through is a mistake. No matter what side of the debates anyone is on, these are circumstances that exist and happen often. Thank you for the thought provoking videos, as always.

[@randoir1863]

a gun is a tool , albeit a deadly tool . Not having the proper skills to use said tool or having the right mindset in times of crisis to use that tool properly is where problems can start .

[@mikechampion1614]

I have believed in the merits of doing more than the minimum in prepared skills. and abilities to respond to a self defense scenario. in the CCW class.they try make you understand it's more than just having the gun.and bad choices (even if they seem right) can ruin your life and possibly other's. Hearing it from someone trying to prepare you is one thing. Seeing or participating in something like this video.brings a better understanding of how important that message is.

[@freedomfighter1861]

Uscca is a clown organization that supports “fun control”

[@jeffreystroman2811]

Yeah, in my 20s my biggest fear was coming upon a violent rape in progress because I'd have had a difficult time meeting force with force requirements. Basically I'd be tempted to blow off his cock with a terrified crying female as my justification. Now I don't carry because I exchanged shots in self defense but our legal system is corrupt beyond belief so I plead out loosing my rights. Never take a plea, no matter how bad they make it sound, they are just as vile as any other criminal gang out there, they just work for the state and use cops as muscle.

[@MongooseReflexes]

This was fantastic, we need more educational content like this! This is the number one thing we need to concentrate on in the 2A community for the masses, EDUCATION!

[@josiahjackson3757]

Look up first person defender. It is similar to this.

[@MrFreakazoid24]

The fact that a simple “thank you for defending yourself and other fellow citizens, go about you day” can turn into multiple years in prison….. Just shows how this justice system is useless.

[@122756ABC]

Never give a statement after a shooting. Respectfully state that you defended yourself and state that you want a lawyer before you give a statement. Period.

[@Linkophere]

@@122756ABC dont even say you defended yourself. Just become an broken record and say "i want to see my lawyer"

[@122756ABC]

@@Linkophere In my experience, I found that generally giving the police a direction to proceed in their investigation w/o incriminating yourself is best. You want that contact with LEO to help set the direction of the investigation in your favor. “I defended myself” is not incriminating. Thereafter you let them know you’re respectfully requesting counsel before making any further statements. My card used to have this request printed on the back so citizens could just hand it to the cop.

[@luc8254]

America is a shitshow

[@user-vc5rp7nf8f]

100%. as far as i'm concerned, if someone instigates something with you, and something as dangerous as pulling a gun out at you, you need to defend yourself by any means necessary. the law should say that "you forfeit your rights the moment you decide to inflict harm on someone else". if you don't wanna get shot or killed, don't friggin go doing it to other people. it should be that simple. none of that bullshit about which bullet killed him, whether it was from the front of back. it's fucking nonsense why those things exist, especially when they're used in defense of criminals

[@BrandinoTheGod]

This is exactly why Ive gone 42 years without owning a gun and now that I finally got one, im terrified to ever actually use it. Much like pretty much any intense situation period, I dont like the fact that a judge, jury or prosecutor who was not there gets to nit pick and decide my fate. I dont know that ill ever truly have faith in our justice system. I also cant offer any solutions so 🤷🏾

[@trouserarmadillo8616]

Colion is the mouthpiece our “community of the gun” needs. I was always told to “train like your life depends on it.” Being a big city guy, I’ve also learned that if the bad guys have the drop on you, just give up your shit. This isn’t Hollywood, and no one is that fast (except maybe Jerry Mickulek?). Been robbed once at gunpoint for my Starter Bulls jacket, and that shit was TERRIFYING.

[@fredcarbery3966]

Got that right I don't want any damn holes in my jacket never

[@thorman944]

train more. in the act of 'taking off your jacket', you could have pulled your gun and likely hidden the fact that you pulled your gun if you took off weak-side arm first, then strong side arm last. robber wouldn't have known you were resisting until he heard your shot, looked down and saw blood from his torso.

[@trouserarmadillo8616]

@Veronica Lopez Jerry Miculek

[@NotEvenOverThere]

@@thorman944 what if he just didn't have a gun, besides that doesn't mean you won't get shot and killed, a lot of robbers work in groups now because people carry guns and they look to steal them

[@djsauce4498]

@@thorman944 lmao i promise will get killed trying to be a bad ass 😂

[@ryguy6689]

Just took my CCW last weekend and it’s great to see you encapsulate these scenarios that really lamented on how easy it can be to become the legal target despite feeling you made the right decision. Cheers, Colion, and thanks for everything you do.

[@Joe-Slow]

Get to the courthouse asap cause your looking at the full 90 day wait like I did because of how many people are being inspired to take them

[@jeniko2841]

Congrats! Never stop learning or training! Refine your skills like a master craftsmen.

[@ryguy6689]

@Culture 25-8 an armed society is a polite society. It takes seconds to become a victim when police are minutes away. It is ironic however that you think minding one’s business is the solution in a scenario where a criminal can take lives without second thought at a moments notice. That’s where educated, decisive action is most crucial and is why training is key. In the heat of such a moment, we revert to our lowest common denominator of training. That is why training and education with firearms must be worked on like an athlete trains for sports.

[@Tphan99]

It's annoying that someone can draw a gun to rob a store and then when innocent people react to protect themselves the criminal still has rights. The moment you pull out a gun and break the law your rights should be thrown out the window. You caused that situation and should have to deal with the outcome.

[@Asidebar]

In Florida that armed thug would not have the right for self defense while he was committing a felony.

[@goldendutches5207]

I was just saying this!!! How do you pull out a gun during a robbery (giving the assumption you’re ready to shot and kill who you need to) and then get shot by a bystander protecting himself and the clerk and the bystander is the one in court on trial for murder or manslaughter… like what?! He had a gun out, what’s the intent of a gun? To shoot, you don’t wave it around in the air, that’s not it’s intention. If you pull your gun out during a robbery I’m going to expect you intend to shoot someone so why not shoot and stop the threat first? I’m reading through all these comments and I haven’t seen 1 person agree, kinda tickles my mind how we even got here then if “we the people” are the ones running the country through government… or the government just does what they want as they always have 🤦🏽‍♂️ we’re gonna need to stand up to them pretty soon

[@chamicels]

@@goldendutches5207 we had a robbery here in MO, the guy held a knife to the clerk's throat and was shot by another customer. No charges filed.

[@fugitiveminded]

I have to point out that the supposed robber did not pull his weapon first. Technically he demanded money with no actual physical or verbal threat. Then when confronted by the other guy going for his weapon did he pull his... so are we saying that if you carry then your non- lethal actions become lethal simply bc you're carrying??

[@noahw4623]

@@fugitiveminded He was committing a felony thereby justifying the self defense. You can use a firearm as a deterrent in this scenario, the robber escalated by drawing his weapon justifying the shooting. People try to come up with ridiculous scenarios to disprove truth. Do not threaten another person and you will not have your life ended.

[@Tiger2045]

More content like this Colion. This is great ! The information provided in this video is invaluable.👍

[@jeremiahscott5047]

this was am amazing example of how fast and how crazy scenarios can be. i loved the video and the legal breakdown to make people think.

[@paulgroth3345]

Please keep doing this. This was absolutely the best presentation on this subject and dramatization that I have ever seen in my 75 plus years. All kudos to you gentlemen

[@rev.brotherjohn2191]

Man we had it good, I loved the late sixties and 70's. Our time was Shangri-La compared to now. I think we have lost our humanity and sense of decency. I wish you well.

[@Philly_bul]

Lets be honest, we have the 2A but they still want to give us life for protecting ourselves or other people.

[@kennethspangler942]

Watched a few videos over the months and this one earned my subscription. Incredibly informative scenarios that I’ve questioned the repercussions of plenty.

[@deejayarecue]

I honestly thought the first scenario was a clear-cut case of self defense. This video is humbling to a degree. Also really maddening to see how much privilege a criminal has in such a scenario.

[@jordans.1910]

The whole shot in the back thing pisses me off. He could be retreating to get a vantage point or more cover. Also as long as bad guy still has the firearm I saw him with, he's still a threat

[@jchiatt4]

The fact that there even has to be a discussion when a bad guy gets killed speaks to how dumb our society is.

[@paxtonjohnson3696]

Right. The fact that this even could make it's way to court is insane.... Should be given an award for a heroic like like these.

[@EverythingZen01]

@Team【アイ・ラブ・ジャパン】Pfizer mfw shall not be infringed

[@Haza3137]

Exactly

[@david_100]

Hey, hey, hey..... U can't shoot 8 Times to another HUMAN being and pretend nothing happened.. Thanks God, we have LAWS!! If you acted just for self-defense, you will be found *not guilty.* . A correct TRIAL is synonymous of a civilized country,

[@josephziolkowski217]

@Team【アイ・ラブ・ジャパン】Pfizer Does a no no? Threatening innocent people with a firearm isn't just a no-no.

[@enriquezalex92]

Colion, this was awesome. In all seriousness, this simulation could kick off an entire series on your channel. Great work

[@bermo61]

Great video. This is really important for people to see because they typically don’t understand the power of adrenaline and the other chemicals that dump into your body during a life or death confrontation. But seeing someone as adept as Coloin struggle with scenarios takes some of that overconfidence we feel and replaces it with humility. I experienced something similar the first time I played paintball. Action may beat reaction but acting too soon can cost you a big chunk of your freedom!

[@garrisonsmith1882]

You guys should tour and hold these sorts of scenarios for people to engage in to further develop their heightened situational awareness and critical thinking skills in tight timelines like this. Incredible video!

[@raksadan807]

I think tour is a great idea 💡

[@supreetsingh1276]

Agreed. Going through these training scenarios will be highly educational and hopefully help in keeping law abiding citizens out prison. Thanks for making such a great video

[@specificocean9490]

there are places all overthe country do that... not touring, because they dont need to. They dont have any specialized information or techniques. just google nearby use of force training and ask if they allow civilians.

[@apsiTV]

The very best 2A video on social media. This is the type of training that should be included in a CCW class. Awesome! I love live simulated training. Eye opening and informative. Great job USCCA!!!!

[@Treblaine]

The accusation "if she could escape then he could escape" sticks and undermines "she could escape BECAUSE he didn't escape" she could turn her back on the robber as CN was facing him ready to defend.

[@stevenvonsoosten207]

Solid argument for a defense attorney to make. 👍

[@freepilot7732]

Plus if he escaped, what about the rest of the people that aren't armed and can't. It's sad the idea does the point the we can't stay and help protect the weak (meaning unarmed bystanders).

[@leemyers1015]

@@freepilot7732 Speculation id not allowed in trial.

[@juanmasa5450]

I think of this instantly, I've been trained to run to danger and get people away as I do. Also the force triangle of intent, capability, and opportunity he had all three. He's dead. As for rounds fired and asking in the moment that's something for investigators to find and I'm sure in police custody Colion and most Americans would hopefully plead the 5th and ask for a state appointed attorney at the least.

[@Treblaine]

@@leemyers1015 You can't have speculation one way but not the other. A hypothetical prosecutor cannot speculate that CN would NOT have been shot if he'd fled in this scenario then turn around and hypocritically prevent speculation anyone else WOULD have been shot had CN fled. But prosecutors sure do act like they should have special privileges in a supposedly fair trail.

[@honeyebby]

So many people are itching to use their gun without realizing the consequences. Thank you for showing us the proper way to handle escalated situations. Great video💪🏽💪🏽❤

[@Jito463]

Wait, even though he's robbing the place, he still has a right to self defense? WHAT?! If he's committing a crime, he has waived his right to self defense.

[@GodGunsGills]

Amen

[@devanmallory5304]

Property is not greater than life, so yeah.

[@codywhittenton6144]

@@devanmallory5304 well, seeing how one of the bad guys had no problem shooting the cashier point blank, it’s not hard to believe that if it happened in real life and that girl was taken, she probably wouldn’t live.

[@Jito463]

@@devanmallory5304 Yes, life is more important than property, but if someone is committing an armed robbery, they've already placed property above life. There's any number of ways an individual might die during the robbery. So I still assert that they have waived their right to self defense at that point.

[@devanmallory5304]

There's any number of ways an individual might die doing something risky. If you work in the line of police force, you could die everyday. That doesn't mean you give up your right to self defense. Also, I was referencing the robbery in the first example, not an armed robbery. Armed robbery I can understand at least a little.

[@brianb2783]

Another bit of advice that should be included in this video: Don't talk to the cops without your lawyer present. They alluded to giving incorrect information in a statement to police and how that could get you in trouble. Simple answer is just don't answer those questions without a lawyer to guide you.

[@123krompir]

Maybe I misheard, but it sounded like the attorney said that the "bad guy" can be justified in use of force to defend himself. In South Carolina you may not claim self defense while in commission of a crime.

[@shahnxaoc7749]

God I love our state.

[@amenra6042]

Just reminds me of that one video where a dude goes "OOOOOO KILL EM!" lol

[@botcrack]

Ahh yes, the ol' "rights to legally commit a crime" ....lol TF

[@Asidebar]

Yeah I wonder what state that attorney was thinking a criminal while committing a felony could use self defense! Certainly not in Florida.

[@beanman8238]

Fantastic video! As a newer handgun owner this is immensely helpful piece of content to be able to absorb before having been able to take a legitimate class in handgun safety. Liked and subbed.

[@ThisCanNotBTheFuture]

When you watch this, remind yourself that a lot of the DAs who would love to throw the book at someone in this scenario are the same DAs who are passionate about no cash bail for violent criminals.

[@Opachki69420]

Look no further than what they tried to do to Kyle

[@MajorMotions]

I swear there should be a law where “the prosecutor” should go to jail too for being an accessory after the fact by trying to “convince/bribe” the jury to find the defendant guilty!! I HATE the LAW!

[@philobetto5106]

at the very least, a plane ticket to Venezuela, China

[@simonnachreiner8380]

In an ideal world the job of the prosecution should be to state the facts of the case and let the jury come to their own conclusions. However we are not in an ideal world and the job of the prosecution is to sell the jury a what ever load of crap it takes for them to deprive another person of their freedom up to an including their life. To a DA it's not about Justice it's about winning and padding the conviction rate of their case record.

[@Daemerik]

My dude. I get that you're frustrated, but think about what you just said lol. You hate the law? The very same law that puts actual scumbag criminals in jail? Calm yourself and think about it reasonably, or you're acting as bad as those prosecutors you seem to hate. I too get frustrated with DA's and prosecutors, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...

[@That1guyCraig]

What? If the prosecutor takes the case then they think something illegal happened. Regardless of what we may think or excuse. They see in the facts presented something wrong. Sure can there be personal feelings on issues or stretching of little things to fit their narrative of course. And yes there are DA's out there who do people dirty. But they aren't bribing the jury. There job is literally convince the jury. Just like the defense attorneys job is to convince the jury. So by your logic if a defense attorney gets a person off but they are actually a bad person then that defense attorney should be held too?

[@MajorMotions]

@@That1guyCraig OK, and they still should go to jail if they lose the case.

[@stevo5459]

This shows how where you live is so important. These scenarios in Los Angeles vs a regional town in Tennessee will have vastly different legal outcomes in the court vs going to court at all.