Police Use Stolen Plate, Run Up $1600 in Tolls for Original Owner

[@radianttadpole6363]

The officer’s “oversight” is anyone else’s felony.

[@MrCoxmic]

exactly

[@simon6071]

Another thug without conscience playing police officer at taxpayers' expense.

[@TheWingsoffury]

@@simon6071 OMG you said it all and you said it right!!

[@puppetsock]

Taking the license from the evidence room should be a stay in prison. Each incident of driving through a toll with a stolen plate should be good for a stay in prison. Because there is no excuse for any of this, the prison terms should be served consecutively.

[@netpackrat]

Wonder what else he took out of the evidence room?

[@themonkeyhand]

If the Narc Cop is stealing plates from the evidence locker he is certainly stealing drugs and money from the scene.

[@ianbattles7290]

Exactly, we KNOW he's been stealing from Evidence, so why isn't he facing any fucking charges????

[@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin]

Funny how they always say a drug bust took in "$4.2 million street value" of narcotics... but all that's the back room is an empty aspirin bottle.

[@alexjones7845]

@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin No, what happens is they pocket some at the scene or during counting and only report "$2.4 million found in bust" rather than the full amount.

[@mrdeleted]

#plantingevidence

[@xenaguy01]

He's not _"stealing plates."_ Undercover COPS are allowed to use tags from the evidence room on their cars, so the tags don't come back to the COP. That lets them stay undercover. While he *_DIDN'T_* steal the tags, he most certainly *_DID_* commit Fraud by running them through toll booths without paying the tolls. He should 1) be forced to pay all the tolls acquired while in his possession. 2) be convicted of Fraud and/or Theft. 3 ) not necessarily be fired, but be demoted and removed from any special units he might be on (i.e. narcotics). 4) be demoted to Patrol Officer for a period of two years, and assigned to the worst beat in the city.

[@ianbattles7290]

I'm so sick of cops getting away with behavior that would put the average citizen in jail immediately.

[@thomasnichols5957]

Call your state representative in congress and file a complaint don't vote for them vote for someone that's against the systematic imprisonment of the American people. Letters to both your federal and state representatives and at least tell them that cops shouldn't be allowed to lie , do you allow your children to lie and why not. That's the answer to why the police shouldn't lie. Stand up people don't lie.

[@epoc162]

That’s not oversight, that’s a felony. They need to be charged and treated as such. This includes losing their jobs since, if they can’t follow the laws, they have no right upholding them.

[@johnnyguitar6639]

Isn't that tampering with evidence?

[@ph11p3540]

@@johnnyguitar6639 Yep

[@johnnyguitar6639]

@@ph11p3540 TNX Was wondering bout that. It Always amuses me. How law enforcement and other officials get to investigate himself. Yet people get surprised. When they come up with the conclusion that their innocent

[@23whatsleft]

Excellent point 👍​@@johnnyguitar6639

[@robertheinrich2994]

or civil asset forfeiture?

[@unclesmrgol]

The officer who took the plate should be responsible for the tolls. Not the woman, and certainly not the taxpayers.

[@ammizabad1]

The fact the officer used a stolen plate is a crime period he should be charged. So I guess they use guns from evidence room now to

[@BobbityBob19]

yes, they're used as drop guns, for when the victim needs a firearm placed next to their body to justify the shooting.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

Throwdown‘s from evidence rooms come in handy for corrupt cops to frame other cops.

[@rustyshackleford2902]

They love free drugs too.

[@jamesmaclagan8039]

Felony, I think.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

@@rustyshackleford2902 Those come in handy for a variety of reasons.

[@sharkonwheels2220]

As always, they investigated themselves and found absolutely no wrongdoing.

[@pkkiller_apathy4568]

Truly the role models we all strive to be...

[@giff983]

I guess you didn't actually listen to the video... the police department absolutely investigated and determined something was wrong.

[@sharkonwheels2220]

@@giff983 yeah, I did. And I read multiple articles, and read them again now. Didn’t do SHIT to the guy who did it, and this wasn’t even his first ride on the dishonesty merry-go-round… According to motor biscuit, the STATE covered the fines because of the bad PR. Not the city, and not the police, who had told HER to pay the fines.

[@knghtbrd]

@@giff983 What consequences were imposed? Did the cop, the police department, or even the city pay the fines? I think you will find they did not. They covered this up and it was only when the press got involved that suddenly SOMEONE ELSE stepped in to pay her fines. And since the government is the government, you damned well better believe she'd better report this "gift" on HER taxes or she's committing the crime of tax fraud. Betting she doesn't know that, either.

[@muskiet8687]

No no... that's not true and you know it! They've called this an "oversight" so someone is clearly a little cross about it!

[@spaceracer23]

"How are we going to pay for this?" Simple, FIRE the officer and use his paycheck to cover the costs.

[@CiaranMaxwell]

Assign the tolls and absolutely all consequences thereof to the officer.

[@Kycirion]

@@CiaranMaxwell yeah I don't know why this is such a hard thing to figure out. The person using stolen plates to rack up $1600 in fees should be required to pay out of pocket for those fees, and if he refuses then the dept needs to pay for and garnish his wages until reimbursed.

[@gatesmw50]

@@Kycirion That is one of the more sensible comments I have read here. Here is why you are correct: the police are not using the license plates in an official manner such as undercover police work but instead to commit fraud by using the license plates to evade tolls. Colorado law provides as follows. “any person convicted of a Class 1 or Class 2 Misdemeanor Traffic Offense - such as Displaying Fictitious Plates - shall be required to pay restitution” to the person who incurred damages as a result of the violation. There you have it !

[@anthonydurbin7395]

@@gatesmw50 exept he has immunity

[@HVACSoldier]

@@anthonydurbin7395 And that’s it, right there. Has a cop been convicted, of the exact same offense, previously? If NOT, you can’t convict him of this offense.

[@SiriusMined]

I love when they call something a mistake when it's actually malfeasance

[@affsteak3530]

There's already a term for willful mistakes comitted for a person's own benefit, "Weaponized incompetence." Golly gee this is so confusing. How could this happen? 😢😢

[@stevecarter8810]

It was a mistake to decide to become a felon

[@ave9341]

Looks like he intentionally put a “defunct” plate to hide his activities. At best, it was not paying tolls when police cars all probably have those automatic pay toll or an exemption. At worst, it was to hide some illegal shenanigans that involved high traffic through tolls, like smuggling or drug running.

[@handyvan3422]

Yup

I smell illegal "shenanigans" (aka felonies), period. Maybe it did involve traffic through tolls, maybe it was just a nice side-effect. I certainly get Training Day vibes.

[@akboyz1]

It is possible that he was indeed hiding his activity. It is conceivable that he was investigating someone that would have had access to the police plates and wanted to do so in an undercover way. We will probably never know.

[@jimmieblue6262]

The cop should be held accountable he knew exactly what he or she was doing.

[@thatjeff7550]

I could easily see this being a, "But this is what we've always done," kind of deal.

[@SHomaidan]

The only time police are held accountable is when there is a huge unrelenting National outcry. Otherwise it is just business as usual.

[@noneofyourbusiness9369]

That TYRANT has no IMMUNITY he lost that the minute he knowly he was committing a CRIME!!!! STRIP TYRANT OF HIS JOB. CONVICT HIM FOR HIS CRIMES!!!

[@noneofyourbusiness9369]

@@neilkurzman4907 oh, you poor 👶. Looking for attention mommy didn't hug you.

[@rodh1404]

As the head of his local police union, I'm pretty sure this guy can do no wrong. Police Unions that defend officers who have blatantly broken the law are a big part of the problem.

[@dennisanderson3895]

Never mind the department, the officer *using* that plate needs to pay the outstanding tolls prior to being brought up on charges.

[@albeit1]

Treble the damages for being a thief.

[@mikeicee]

LOL im pretty sure even if we agreed to do it... its probably illegal to switch our cars license plates.

[@Matt-yg8ub]

It’s a paperwork problem. Police cars don’t pay tolls in the first place

[@AbNomal621]

The officer should be facing felony theft charges.

[@AbNomal621]

@@Matt-yg8ubit is FAR more than a paperwork problem. The use of the plate was illegal and the officer(s) knew or should have known such. It violated two laws.

[@chrischeehan2423]

In the DMV, the customer is wrong and guilty unless the media gets involved

[@ralfie8801]

Well, there is some paperwork to fill out at the registration office to remove your name from your old license plate number when you sell a vehicle. Filling it out "should" help point them in the right direction (away from you) if that number gets charged a toll or is used in some crime at a later point in time. If you don't do that, then things like those described in this story are what could happen to you. I always fill the form out and keep my old plate when I sell a vehicle.

[@chrischeehan2423]

@@ralfie8801 If your plate has been stolen or compromised you don't know until charges are already hitting your license. In most cases you only can clear your record by paying the fines and creating a new license plate

[@ralfie8801]

chris cheehan You apparently didn't understand what I wrote the first time around. We have a form to fill out that goes in the DPS computer saying you no longer own the vehicle you filled out the form for and the license plate for that vehicle is no longer associated with you after the date on the form. That form is supposed to be filled out within 30 days of the sale if I remember right. I also keep the plate so the new owner is forced to register it in their own name which further removes ownership from you. The plate in the story was not stolen from the vehicle, it was removed from it and kept by the seller at the time the vehicle was sold and stolen from his storage sometime later. In my case with the form having been filled out, the state knows immediately something is up because I'm no longer responsible for that vehicle or the plate associated with it. Also, nobody steals plates here because the actual registration is on the windshield sticker inside the car. The cops eyeball the sticker for the expiration date as they meet you on the road. When they run your plate they know everything right down to the color of the vehicle and whether or not you have current insurance before they ever stop you.

[@furturisticfrontierfilms]

I'm surprised they didn't send 20 or so field tested and hardened men, swinging off the side of a military grade vehicle by her house and extract the fine out of her hide.

[@chrischeehan2423]

@@ralfie8801 I read your post. In the clip they were talking about a compromised license plate which wasn't in the control of the owner. The police should have either surrendered the plate to the owner, or surrendered it to DMV. NOT put it in their evidence locker. Your post didn't even address the wrong caused by the police from their actions, so I wrote another post. In CA, holding your plates and causing the new owner to pay for new plates($350) could be a deal breaker for some buyers. We do have the release of liability form as well, that needs to be completed within 30 days of transfer, but with the other allowed delays to register a car into a new owners name, there are large windows of opportunity for abuse in CA. Your State seems more thought through

[@dirty46]

That was a cop who knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He thought no harm no foul. I'd sue the police department since they were the cause of her loss.

[@NemoBlank]

They get used to stealing without consequences and have no compunction. They don't want accountability as it would land them in jail.

[@nydabeats]

So if I get arrested for driving around with stolen plates I'll just tell the cop its an "oversight" and he'll let me go?

[@irmamendez9443]

I mean, it worked before should work again lmao.

[@farleyxwilbur3867]

Sure, he'll let you go right to jail.

[@olikat8]

Yeah...

[@nelsblair2667]

Be sure to blow some tolls 🤷‍♂️

[@benx6264]

if you're the president of the FOP, sure

[@HappyHoboRecovery]

The integrity of ALL items in the evidence room are now suspect. The DA's office must be bracing for a flood of defense appeals...

[@HappyHoboRecovery]

@@wilfdarr there's an understatement. I can only imagine what other evidence was "borrowed" or broke the chain of custody from that supposedly secure room?

[@davidransom4476]

Not just evidence. What other rules has he broken while on the job?

[@michaelmichalski4588]

I can just see how any of his cases went. "How do you know this evidence wasn't tampered with" "There are procedures we follow" "Do you ever ignore those procedures" "No, we always follow them" "Isn't it true on XYZ date that you took a license plate from the evidence room and placed it on a vehicle that was provided for your personal use and then used that license plate to evade tolls" "Uhh I wouldn't put it like that" "was the license plate in question placed on your car" "well yes but..." "And was there 1600 dollars in unpaid tolls incurred in that vehicle" "yes, but..." "So when you said the procedures were always followed that was a lie" "no, it was..." What else are you lying about" "Objection" "no further questions"

[@byronperry6014]

Sadly the integrity of all of the police officers these days is in question. Yes unfortunately, I am on the receiving end of police malfeasence, which was aquitted on it.

[@laurielewis2745]

I live in Denver and it's common knowledge that the toll authority here is perfectly corrupt. Not to mention the police.

[@nas8326]

They are not corrupt to their masters, genius. You only think they're corrupt, because you were dumb enough to believe that they were put here to protect and serve peasant minded individuals like yourself. Lol

[@laurielewis2745]

@@nas8326 Troll much?

[@nas8326]

@@laurielewis2745 A troll that gives the pure, unadulterated truth....

[@mr67gta]

No doubt they are Democrats

[@youtubehatesfreedom1870]

Cops are dirty everywhere

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Pretty freaky that the plates magically floated themselves on to the cops car. I just checked my plates for wings and didn't find any,so it's a real stumper how they can fly onto someone else's car.

[@TimoRutanen]

Jesse Pinkman: "Yeah, bitch, magnets"

[@johnfuhrman2854]

The officer should be convicted and jailed for fraudulent use of that license plate.

[@funnlivinit]

Since the officer was presumably off the clock when he went through the toll lanes, he’s not subject to police immunity. The victim should sue him personally for the $1600. It’s the only way he’ll ever be held accountable in any way.

[@patrickdecambra2219]

The Fraternal Order of Police Officers needs to be investigated under the Rico Act

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

And members who are found to have participated in these crime sprees have fines issued against them that might as well render them homeless.

[@pauliewalnuts2527]

100% agree

[@donaldscobie8455]

Membership in an ongoing criminal enterprise.

[@timdowney6721]

Civil forfeiture of all the union officers’ homes, vehicles, bank accounts, etc.

[@kellidinit3725]

Honestly, the only union I do not back.

[@PFLEONARDI0906]

“To Serve and Protect Their Own Interests”

[@kevinlimo696]

Actually I say now "To Serve Tickets and Protect Income".

[@charbo187]

"to serve and protect capital"

[@princessmarlena1359]

“To Punish and Enslave”

[@JohnDoe-mp2oy]

I used to live in Longmont Co. Longmont has a large police station and have the doors closed on Saturday and I was their to file a complaint. It took numerous calls to the non emergency number with them hanging up on me and being extremely rude before an officer would come out. He gave me a form and I left. After looking at the form I realized it was not a citizens complaint form, but an internal form an officer had to fill out. I returned and was once again hung up on and treated poorly before an officer came out and told me they do not have citizen complaint forms. I went to the next city council meeting to speak on this. They ignored the upset citizens their and made a statement that the officer was a good man and no one in the department would be facing any disciplinary action. Unfortunately this is typical behavior I have experienced from the LPD

[@artmilburn8251]

This should be turned into a $2 million lawsuit and serious jail time for the "law enforcement " criminal.

[@Duncan_Campbell]

isn't the biggest question, what else has been taken out of evidence, and not recorded?

[@brianfrolo245]

Don’t know but I’ll bet it smells funny!

[@Ministry_Of_Silly_Walks]

That’s exactly what I said. Chain of custody can now be called into question for every case based upon physical evidence that was stored in that room

[@bikkiikun]

There is a term for this: Crime. And what do you call a policeman, that protects a known criminal? Also a Criminal. And what should be done with Criminals? They ought to be arrested, prosecuted and spend time in prison.

[@judycorbridge6470]

Not in "utopia "

[@junkie2100]

but if we did that, what are we gonna do with no police left? lol

[@1noduncle]

Don't forget to release public service announcements to the inmates in the facilities the pigs are in with their pictures and names 😀

[@timdowney6721]

@@junkie2100 Start over with smarter, more honest cops. There are about 330 million candidates who fit the bill.

[@kengilcrest8670]

So if you are working undercover trying to keep your actual identity unknown, it makes sense to take your undercover car home and park it at your house that contains your family ? That doesn't add up for me, but maybe there is something I am missing.

[@billcosharek2932]

works only if your home has a secret bat cave or extinct volcano

[@stevef68]

And being President of the State FOP...

[@jimmieblue6262]

You can't fix stupid

[@kengilcrest8670]

@@contradictorycrow4327 ​ I would disagree. I posted that sort of tongue in cheek. "Take home undercover car" probably really means, we are going to use these confiscated vehicles as our personal vehicles under the guise of "undercover" without having to pay for them, without having to pay to register or insure them, and without paying any tolls in them. A fringe benefit of the job.

[@TheRainman614]

It's not undercover, it's an unmarked car. Undercover should be registered to an unknown address so someone who looks up the car is directed to an empty lot or address.

[@HawksDiesel]

Abolish qualified immunity. They need to ve held accountable just like everyone else...

[@nickv4073]

Now that the story is in the media, you watch how fast this gets resolved.

[@markwilliams7845]

They just walk into evidence room and grab a license plate , that tells me they were taking anything they want from the evidence room .

[@Avrysatos]

I wouldn't want to be a DA dealing with evidence based cases in this area while this is hitting the news. This calls in ALL evidence in the room's integrity.

[@Glmorrs1]

@@AvrysatosYep. If I was a defense attorney I’d be backing up the courts with motions to prove the chain of custody for every tiny piece of evidence in every case I’ve got. Any discrepancies on the report up to and including spelling mistakes and I’d be pushing to have it thrown out. I’d be doing everything in power to fuck up the prosecutor’s office.

[@sandybarnes887]

So, getting caught committing a crime is now an oversight, eh? Ok. Got it.

[@patricksanders858]

"Fraternal order of police" should be illegal and banned!

[@BobbityBob19]

True, sounds like the mob.

[@singaporesammy]

FOP - F'ing Over the People

[@brianleeper5737]

"Fraternal Order of Low IQ Morons with Substance Abuse Issues" is too long.

[@mrfingers4737]

It sounds pretty disgusting to me.

[@jtkilroy]

Outlaw the ability of employees to organize? Will that apply to everyone else? Like the Teamsters? Autoworkers? Plumbers and Pipefitters?

[@5400bowen]

"Out of alignment"...for the rest of us that means a felony and prison time.

[@Rickinsf]

This is why my morning vehicle inspection includes, "ascertain that my plates are still MY plates."

[@JonathanMandrake]

Both the City and the PO should be fined heavily, and the PO fired

[@laurielewis2745]

And charged 😳

[@judycorbridge6470]

According to law books. Yes

[@palladin9479]

You resolve the issue by doing exactly what this women did, talk to the local reporter and make the news. That is going to light a fire under the rears of elected officials.

[@jeffthompson9622]

Yes. The people responsible deserve to be famous.

[@mexicanspec]

I would add starting the law suit before it goes much farther.

[@joewelch4933]

@@mexicanspec I agree she should go to small claims against the PD for 5k 1600 for the tolls 3400 for damages.

[@bluesmoke9662]

My opinion only: The state gets one chance to fix a "mistake" before it goes to the press and social media. Let them see what a little sunshine feels like through a magnifying glass. None of this bs "Well, we're not sure who is suppose to pay, state, city, or county." Pay it, than pull it out of the paycheck of the offending party. How is that so complicated?

[@hattielankford4775]

Do undercover cops usually pay their own fees and tolls? If not, would it be normal to waive the original fees or reimburse the undercover officer? Big question, who applied the plate inappropriately in the first place?

[@richardcranium5839]

they need to name names show times and dates.

[@tombworld9012]

This narco cop needs to be instructed on how to create license plates from scratch in the prison workshop.

[@Rob2]

Well, this is the reason why autorities hate social media so much! In the past, they would get away with this because the victim has no way to find publicity. They could have told it to a local newspaper but it would get limited coverage, if any. Now today, people ALL OVER THE WORLD hear about this. And there is nothing they can do anymore, any attempt to get it removed or classify it as "fake news" will only make things worse. Our minister of internal affairs is talking about "fake news" all the time. Every time something appears on social media she labels it as fake news. But, she is fake news herself. Fortunately she will not return, after she had been on sick leave for "nasal mucosa issues". You all know how you get those...

[@bluesmoke9662]

@@Rob2 Yeah, anytime I hear the phrase "fake news," I steady myself for a tsunami of lies. It's the spin they like to add that ultimately makes them look more horrible than we already thought they were, as it generally reveals their true nature. So we all need to call out the hypocrites, liers, racists, and people being stupid for stupidity's sake. Oh and far right wing politicians, because they most often fit into one of, if not all of those categories.

[@Ministry_Of_Silly_Walks]

Clear and nearly perfect example of official misconduct. The plate was inventoried by the police. The state should have voided the toll charges and contacted IAD. Furthermore, that the car was being used for undercover operations, they were placing an uninvolved civilian in harms way. No one hates people like this more than legitimate officers. Additionally, that the evidence room appears to not be secure, the chain of custody is now compromised for every conviction that was based upon physical evidence from that facility.

[@jerryallen7462]

She should file charges on the cop and the dept. It is against the law to use her plate. On his car

[@jeanlenor1858]

Police breaking the law? Oh it's just another day in America.

[@Elliandr]

Wouldn't it be nice if America followed the Rule of Law? The basic idea of that principle is that no one, not even the king, is above the law. All persons are held accountable for their actions because all persons are ruled by the law not an individual.

[@LambentLark]

Just another day in America? As bad as things are here, we still have it better off than most the planet. There are countries where women are imprisoned for being raped. That fact doesn't forgive crap like this but, it does put it in perspective.

[@Elliandr]

@@LambentLark while I agree with you, the fact is it used to be much better in America. Between qualified immunity and adverse possession there has been a gradual worsening of police activity over the last few decades. America used to ranked first in economic freedom and now it ranks pretty low, as an example. The point here is that if it used to be better that means we could end up in a worse position than those other countries. Now an obvious difference is that in some countries it's not just the abuse of police. Saudi Arabia, for example, runs as a theocracy and certain belief systems are still a capital offense in that country. People are still arrested purely for what they believe in and executed purely for what they believe in. Still, without accountability, what is the difference between a police officer killing you and a judge ordering you killed? Either way you end up dead. Personally, I have experience with ongoing loss of freedom in America. Before I was born my mother was given an illegal drug without her informed consent as part of an illegal medical study conducted by the u.s. military. As far as she knew she was just seeing the Doctor as usual since my dad was a Marine. There was a class action lawsuit attempted around 10 years later and the US government responded by moving all of the victim's medical records to the military service database in St Louis. That database is supposed to be for military personnel and civil servants. Even though I have worked for the government and passed a government background check I still don't have the clearance to access my own medical records. Even the CDC which is required by law to have access to vaccination records do not have access to my vaccination records. It's actually really easy to verify that my records are there, but actually seeing them is another matter altogether. And because I don't have access to those records there are some ongoing medical issues that are harder for doctors to deal with because they really need those records and aren't allowed to see them. And even that is mild in comparison to some of the other illegal medical studies that the US government has conducted through every generation in its history. So even though America used to be better it was never perfect, although it could have been if only we had accountability.

[@LambentLark]

@@Elliandr That's pretty messed up. I thought I had trust issues big enough to house an Amazon fulfillment center in. Authority/power that isn't held responsible for its actions is an often repeated predicament in human history. We keep acting like we have outgrown it as it coils around and chokes our people and communities. Now they want every man, woman and child to get vaccinated. I see how many people are yet unvaccinated and, I can't fault their hesitation.

[@tomstone6247]

Steve , you know the police are exempted from the law , and when they are caught breaking the law , they are not arrested or fired , they are sent home with pay until the department can figure out how to cover it up , then they are back at it again , truly sad but TRUE .

[@Tugela60]

Not true. They only have immunity when on the job. In this case the guy should at least be fired.

[@Ghoulishblade]

@@Tugela60 good news they investigated themselves and found no wrong doing.

[@MrPir84free]

@@Tugela60 Fired ? He stole someone else's plates. Then blew thru a bunch of tolls - I'm going to assume that he knew doing any of the preceding was wrong, as most 9 year olds know right from wrong. So, he should be fired, charged, and face the wrath of what an ordinary civilian would be facing for doing the same, like prison.. Yes, prison.

[@Tugela60]

@@MrPir84free He did not steal the plates, he was allowed to use them. The issue was he did not use them per implied policy. There are no grounds to charge him with anything, especially since it appears the use policy was vague, particulary when it came to civil liabilty stemming from the use of these plates. They just do not seem to have considered that aspect. The only recourse for the department as far as this issue is concerned is to fire him.

[@Glmorrs1]

@@Tugela60 That’s what we know for now because there hasn’t been an investigation. What was the reason for circumventing established procedure and taking plates out of the evidence room? What was the reason for racking up so much in toll booth violations? One is suspicious and the other a crime, it begs the question: What else were they trying to get away with?

[@t-fizzle3245]

"Alignment with proper practice" They have to say stuff like that because policing has little to do with actual right and wrong.

[@skougi]

doublespeak at its finest.

[@jimwinchester339]

The classic reason why FOP should be "defunded".

[@MileHighDriverGuy]

How did I not hear about this on the news?!

[@BubbaTech]

hence the term, "Drive it like you STOLE it"

[@darrellwilliams5657]

Like that.

[@bikkiikun]

So if, the plate was in the evidence room, it would have been evidence. That means, if somebody touched it, it's called tampering with evidence... and that's a crime.

[@roxcyn]

The police officer should be responsible to pay all the fees.

[@FarangKyAy]

Agreed if it comes as an addition to actual punishment for the felony committed by a LEO...

[@willdwyer6782]

Police misconduct will not stop until lawsuit settlements start coming out of their pension funds. Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill for naughty cops?

[@greenandgold2185]

@@willdwyer6782 unfortunately their pension funds came from us too. 4 months in jail 18 months probation 40 hours of community service $1,600 in fines plus court cost 1 year suspended license Victim compensation And lose his job That should start to curb police misconduct.

[@e-curb]

I bet the cop was commuting to work and not using the car for official police business.

[@timdowney6721]

@@e-curb Probably using it while running his drug-dealing and or prostitution/trafficking rackets as well.

[@JTLaser1]

Wait! The head of a Police Union just doing anything he wants, and assuming there will be no accountability? I’m SO SURPRISED!

[@greenandgold2185]

I don't want to make this political but the ones who have signs out saying I back the blue or a thin blue line flag sticker in the car window. Who are they? Left or right? I'd like to factor that in when I vote.

[@Tom-hz9oc]

@@greenandgold2185 Cop suckers are both!

[@tonebonebgky2]

@@Tom-hz9oc not necessarily until about a year ago i was a big back police officers type of person until i began watching auditors like amagessett press and realized there's way more bad cops than good (although some good still exists) we are responsible for educating them they may simply not know i didn't.

[@Tom-hz9oc]

@@tonebonebgky2 I’ll agree. I was pro police for years and was actually military police for 11 years. I got to know lots of civilian cops and actually have an uncle that’s a retired Texas Ranger. I changed the night I was arrested for public intoxication but hadn’t been drinking. I was injured in the Army and ended up having 5 strokes that left me blind on one side, unsteady on my feet, and permanently slurred and jumbled speech. My doctor testified to my condition and they still took their ‘DWI expert’s’ opinion that I was drunk. It was a hell of an eye opener to be given probation for something I didn’t do.

[@tonebonebgky2]

@@Tom-hz9oc I'm sorry that that happened to you and I'm telling you what today is the day now is the time for any good law enforcement that is left to take a stand against bad law enforcement they are losing we are losing and they are the ones that supposedly in charge of protecting us from the bad guys there is never been a more desperate hour for good police officers to stand up against bad police officers if not now then when if not them then who? I don't personally support ending policing as a whole but I do strongly support holding accountable bad police officers and potentially ending qualified immunity once and for all I don't know that's something that I would have to look more into but I don't like the way it smells it just doesn't pass the test, problem is the judges and justices are part of the problem now is that going to change with this new conservative supreme Court, I'm highly dubious and doubtful nonetheless a lot of damage has already been done and the possibility that we as Americans may have to overrun our own government sickens me to the core but it is our constitutional duty and sometime within the next hundred years or so it may come to that and as sickening as January 6th was it did prove one thing that I already knew was true the people of this nation are ready to rise up against their leaders and although I condemn those who broke into the capital was it really an illegal violation of law or was it, as a person who has never even been in Washington DC I just don't know, if it happened on the other side of the political spectrum would I feel differently I'm not sure, but I do know that people are fed up with their government right now. no I don't know where you stand politically and I don't really care honestly I'm just proving a point that people are to the point of being fed up and taking actions that normally would be unthinkable under ordinary circumstances and they could and possibly should increase in the future, but I'm neither a political revolutionary or a radical I'm just a guy who thinks about things deeply, should those people at the Capitol be held accountable yes absolutely if for no other reason they started something that failed depending on where you stand on things, further we can't just allow insurrectionist randomly come in and attempt to take over our government if it had been much more successful with people feel differently who knows, but something is going to have to change eventually and I'm not sure what that is but I know it's probably coming given enough time.

[@jonathanbob852]

It would be interesting to see where he went in a department vehicle to rack up $1600 in tolls.

[@patrickb4620]

Apparently it was an “undercover take-home vehicle”. And it was on multiple cars. The whole undercover department was doing it.

[@jdeckape]

"I aint never been to the police academy, and I've only seen a couple of the movies, but even I know that wouldn't be how it works" I'm dead

[@deancall85]

It seems like an unmarked police vehicle would have had a legal license plate which he would have had to remove in order to put the stolen plate on.

[@volvo09]

Yeah, seems like he was trying to mask some other use... Maybe running drugs all over, who knows?... But that's a lot of tolls, i don't see a situation where that makes sense. I could see highway patrol racking up tolls, but a drug investigation unit?

[@roberteltze4850]

A lot of states have different looking plates for state owned vehicles. Using those plates would give away any attempt to be undercover. I'm not excusing the cop, he should have to personally pay those tolls and be demoted or fired. Just pointing out that going undercover would be pointless if you have plates that mark your vehicle as state property.

[@charleswieand4445]

That was probably on his personal vehicle. Like most of people working for Detroit school system have school plates on theirs

[@benmilazzo1839]

He had to burn dept issued plate.... got videoed robbing drug dealers

[@otetechie]

@@roberteltze4850 police can get a normal looking plate for undercover cars. For some reason he didn’t want to do it the right way.

[@FarangKyAy]

That's a good point, can thieves or muggers now claim their felony was an "oversight" in court?

[@sarowie]

Assuming the officer handled all evidence in the evidence room with the same professionalism as he handled the license plate he "found" there, you could get the idea that this could be tempering with evidence and incomplete protocols in evidence handling.

[@timdowney6721]

So long as they’re part of the Porcine Gang, you bet they can.

[@timdowney6721]

@@sarowie Sounds like Longmont probably has a large chain-of-custody problem with evidence that defense lawyers will pick up on.

[@twopairofkids]

Wait, this is in CO. They removed qualified immunity. If the women sues, the officer could really be hit in the pocket book. Good.

[@cjburian1]

From a nearby town, I got a $900 tow bill for a car I'd sold almost a year beefore. Apparently the buyer had used it as a donor, stripped out some drive train and suspension parts, then just abandoned the hulk at the curb, and it was traced to me by VIN since he'd never titled it. Based on the all-to-common crazy stories like this one, I feared that I would not be able to get out of this. I had a bill of sale, but it wasn't notarized for authenticity, nor did I have proof I didn't still hold title. Luckily when I called the town administrator, he said that's fine, I don't owe the city, just fax or email the bill of sale. Never heard anything more about it. That's how the system is supposed to work!

[@DanielDTUBWeinberger]

exactly! that is exactly how the system SHOULD work, but these crooks are acting under malice trying to harm people and steal their money.

[@davidwilliams4845]

Here in California, You're supposed to send in a notice to the DMV when you sell the car to release yourself from liability for it.

[@Isitascam2000]

I had something along these lines happen to me 15 years ago. I sold my first car 15 years ago to a Florida sherif's officer. Being the first time selling a car, I forgot to take the license plate. I called him a few days after asking for the plates and he said that taken them off and they were in his closet. He then ghosted me and stopped answering any calls or tests. I went into DMV and signed an affidavit that I had sold the car and no longer had possession of the plates. Thought it was done, but it wasn't. A few months later I found out my license was suspended. DMV had a computer issue, so it still showed my car as active with me and since I had removed insurance it flagged me as having an uninsured car. A call with DMV the next day fixed this and they said it was a DMV computer issue, their fault. So I thought it was done, nope. I got a collection notice months later. Turns out the sherif never took off the plates. Drove around my car for several months and eventually just abandoned the car (it was an old beater). It got towed and they were looking for about $2000 in fees. Luckily I had a copy of all the documents and sent it to them and it was removed quickly. Never found out if anything else happened from that, doubt it. One more fun thing from this. While DMV acknowledged there was an issue with the computer system, it never removed from my record that my license was suspended. They said I needed to write DMV headquarters and send them a letter and my docs. I did this 3 or 4 times, 2 of them with certified mail. They said all 4 times they never got it, even though I had a signature it was signed for and accepted for 2 of them. Even though I had a name for who signed for it in their building, they said they couldn't solve the mystery. I eventually gave up. 6 years, 11 months, and 29 days later, I went to buy a new car and my new insurance company said they couldn't insure me because I had a suspended license on my record.... Luckily when they looked at it detail, they said they only look back 7 years for any history, so if I go back tomorrow it will be off my record and they can cover me. Went back the next day and had no issues.

[@calebfielding6352]

All I can think is how great a job the supreme court is doing creating qualified immunity

[@ericgraham2781]

Then I have good news for you. Colorado doesn't have qualified immunity anymore.

[@kaseyboles30]

They have pulled back a smidge on that lately. I Think I saw that on this channel. Basically some blatant constitutional violations no longer require a previous ruling by the courts for basis of striping immunity. Though that is merely a layman's understanding. An actual lawyer (I am not) could explain it better.

[@funnlivinit]

Since he was presumably off duty when he incurred the tolls, he wouldn’t be eligible for qualified immunity.

[@jimstoner6884]

The only reason to create qualified immunity is because the police are so corrupt they need it. The court obviously knew that.

[@Elliandr]

@@funnlivinit The vehicle was police owned to be used as an undercover vehicle. Therefore all use of it would have been on duty since an under cover officer appearing to be off duty is still on duty and is still being paid as on duty. One if the issues is that instead of requesting an undercover plate from the state he grabbed an active plate from evidence thinking it was inactive.

[@GeorgeWMays]

This is a good example of why, when someone advocates defunding the police, many people pause and think, "well, maybe." There are too many stories like this.

[@cyanryann64]

Bruh defunding the police would just make things worse than they currently are

[@every-istand-ophobe6320]

No.. absolutely not. Nobody with a brain thinks "defunding the police" is a good thing. You know what black people in the hood are scared of? It's not police. It's actually other blacks. And almost 80% of blacks do not support defund the police. And if you want to defund the police because of one piece of crap( which is probably there because of diversity hires) that messed with a license plate then maybe you should Ngo live in the hood for a little while or own a business that they are stealing from or burning down and let's see how long you want to defund the police. The only people that are saying that are usually either white women in the suburbs or the criminals. Nobody else wants to defund the police. But go ahead.. there will be a ton of vigilantes then. Just remember without police NOTHING is enforceable. No contracts nothing. So keep your dream alive but I promise it won't be this utopia you think it will be.

[@alanberickson]

Defunding is a bad idea. They need to be made accountable. Prosecutors and police need each other and sometimes their relationship is a little too cozy. Being a cop is tough and someone needs their back, but there are also bad actors like this who need to be cut loose and prosecuted.

[@rustyshackleford2902]

We don't need police because we already have elected sheriff's. The cops are an army for crooked politicians and other cartels.

[@willquoikapor]

Defunding is reallocating money for surplus military toys and using it for something that actually helps the community. Such as training on how to deal with mental health calls.

[@redmesa2975]

I was a fleet mechanic for Eagle County in Colorado. They had an undercover car with California plates. Clever I guess. But I wondered how they could get an out of state plate, when the vehicle is registered in Colorado ? Maybe they registered in California, but technically that would still be illegal… for us civilians I just wonder how that worked on California’s end ?

[@3xceIIent]

I have no idea if it exists, but I am sure two states could come to an agreement on issuing their plates to the other state for this type of work. That seems like it would have be to some sort of state law though.

[@danepcarver4951]

How hard would it be for police to get a set out of State plates and just install them on their car?

[@carlsutherland3730]

You watched the video. Now you know!

[@carlsutherland3730]

@@3xceIIent what makes you think two states police dept can talk to each other. LOL!

[@RK-kn1ud]

@@carlsutherland3730 In my experience, two neighboring towns have difficulty talking to each other.... My brother once paid his bail for a warrant (unpaid tickets). Several hours later he was pulled over (randomly ran his plates), arrested, and had his car impounded. Despite having the receipt in his pocket for paying the bail earlier that morning, they refused to radio the neighboring township to verify that there was no longer a warrant. I estimate that they were more concerned about the revenue they would make by impounding his car.

[@drbichat5229]

The “officer “ using the stolen plate should be in jail. A decent human would reached for his checkbook and paid the woman immediately, then try to get money back from the department. These “ officers” are behaving worse than criminals

[@chronospresents]

"I ain't never been to police academy and I've only seen a couple of the movies..." Best line ever.

[@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938]

"Can't tell between the cops and the robbers. They both partners, they all heartless, with no conscience." - Thieves in the night

[@678tc]

The difference is the robbers aren't hypocritical and declaring themselves to be upholders of the law.

[@nboddie1036]

The robbers don't get paid by the public, don't have qualified immunity...

[@steveamsp]

Sounds like this person that happens to have a badge should be charged with theft. Unfortunately, it looks like only a misdemeanor for value under 2000, and I don't know whether additional difficulties could be wrapped into the value of goods taken.

[@catlover1986]

It's not theft. The government owns the plates.

[@benc.enlots]

Yet another crooked cop.... Imagine my surprise. 🤨

[@judycorbridge6470]

Follow that car, Gomer Pile

[@nickybeingnicky]

Fictitious plates are a felony, wtf are these dirty cops doing???

[@adriennerowe3937]

I discovered you a couple of months ago. Thank you. I learn a lot, my brain gets exercised, and entertaining!

[@Nick210]

I wonder what else is being removed from that evidence room

[@kurtzxcvb3481]

When the sergeant said we'll just pay for it with narcotics fund to pay for the toll didn't mean go to the evidence locker and get that money we seized LOL

[@sarowie]

And while he is there, he might as well take refresher on the effects of narcotics on the human body.

[@charleshaynes815]

To answer your question. No, that cop used the tollway only because he thought he would not be caught

[@davidlong9158]

Sounds like felony charges needs to go to who ever was using the plate to me

[@ianbattles7290]

In my state, it is a life-ruining felony to put plates on a car they do not belong to.

[@bretthamelin8974]

Wow, just wow. This cop needs to be fired.

Too mild.

[@ntilewills5679]

Hey Steve, I did a quick look on the internet about this. Looks like they did pay her $1600.00 bill a few days ago. So small win for her.

[@dangeroustoman]

You mean the taxpayers paid it.

[@norml.hugh-mann]

What about the months of inconvenience and long term health effects from stress and missed appts, there are probably tons already in collections that wont be made aware to her until collections start coming in up to years from now.

[@ianbattles7290]

What about consequences for the cop who broke the law??? Any mention of THAT? Cuz it seems like this cop screwed her AND the taxpayers AND TOTALLY GOT AWAY WITH IT.

[@coryCuc]

Good lord. You all are missing the point. He said a "small" win for the woman.

[@AppleSpar]

The public paid, not the cop.

[@bikkiikun]

So a busted criminal gets months of paid vacation instead of prison time. That's quite an incentive.

[@bikkiikun]

@@neilkurzman4907 : Is it now... Normally a known Criminal would be arrested and prosecuted.

[@bikkiikun]

@@neilkurzman4907 : Of course, when police officers investigate their own, they never find any wrongdoing, regardless of how obvious their crimes are, regardless of how much evidence there is. They'd beat anyone who's jumping a 2 dollar subway fare half to death and charge them with "resisting arrest", but racking up an enormous bill of tolls for an old lady, using a stolen (you know, taking things you don't own without permission) license plate, that's ok... Face it, the only thing they "investigated" is ways and means to get away with their crimes.

[@bikkiikun]

@@neilkurzman4907 : "what the New York City Police Department would do thousands of miles away has" everything to do with this case. It highlights the corruption of selective enforcement that runs deep within the police force(s) as whole. Any civilian who would have been found to rack up tolls with an alternate (let alone stolen) number plate would have been arrested right then and there, when he was found out. And this person would have lost his job right then and there (instead of gettings months of paid vacation).

[@bikkiikun]

​@@neilkurzman4907 : No, nothing gets, because Crimes committed by Police Officers are almost never called "Crime". They hide the criminality behind Euphemisms, like "misconduct", "policy violation", or "excessive force". And please stop hiding behind "different laws". That's not the issue at hand. The issue is the mindset of police officers and prosecutors. And that is universal across the country. Police would have still beaten a person half to death for fare jumping in the same county. And yes, I do understand the concept of "innocent until proven guilty". But I also understand the concept of "probable cause" (the thing that is grounds for an arrest). And after an arrest, as a defendant, you're still innocent until proven guilty, but you have been arrested. And in this Sergeant's case, there is A LOT of probable cause. Enough for a couple of nights in county jail, until a judge sets his bail conditions.

[@michaelrains2268]

The local police department at your service. With public servants like this you sure don't need enemies!

[@MrTeff999]

The cop that the lady talked to on the phone (the one she asked to destroy it) probably thought that the person in charge of the evidence room would handle that task. Things like this happen when no single person is responsible - especially when it is an unusual situation.

[@kthwkr]

I read elsewhere. The cop the lady talked to was in fact the cop that was using the stolen tag.

[@davidalexander3938]

Hope the lady sues for 10 times the amount for pain and suffering.

[@davidalexander3938]

@@neilkurzman4907 yes. But I doubt they would let it go that far before settling.

[@yomommaahotoo264]

It may help to remember that police in charge of delivering product and collecting cash for the DA's official protected drug rackets require stolen plates.

[@mexicanspec]

Yeah, that wouldn't go well for the lady if the bad guys ran the plate and went after her.

[@yomommaahotoo264]

@@mexicanspec The "bad guys" ARE the police and prosecutor. Their job is to eliminate private entrepreneur drug dealer competition and cage select numbers of their own customers in order to maintain their power.

[@357Addict]

So now crimes are called an "oversight". Good to know and it explains a lot of what has happened the last couple of years.

[@andysheepleton]

"Take home truck" How is that different than a free truck for this guy? I wonder how many "Take home" automobiles this department has on the books.

[@davidbird4021]

My question would be: Is he involved with other "underhanded activities"?

[@roxcyn]

Wow, an attorney in Colorado needs to pick up this case. Report ID theft to FTC and CO AG offices. Horrible all around. 😱

[@cheezeball6109]

Its a mess......corruption is rampant everythwere...The days of accountability in govt are gone...

[@SnarkNSass]

Lawsuit!!! Charges!!! Transparency!!! Accountability!!! 💩👮‍♂️👖🔥🦆🦆🦆

[@patricksanders858]

He just didnt want to pay tolls! Thought he could get away with it! That undercover cop needs to pay up!

[@stevematson4808]

If one cop is that brazen, you can bet the whole department is corrupt

[@rushthezeppelin]

Funny how agencies won't cooperate when it costs them money but as soon as there is money to be made there is ample cooperation (civil asset forfeiture.......)

[@itsmylife8358]

Pay??? Cop is Clearly guilty of Criminally using a plate and should be charged. Also proves the local prosecuters are dirty also.

[@judycorbridge6470]

As we've seen in Utah

[@pietas1371]

Maybe You could recommend a good lawyer that could sue the officer, police department and city/county/state.

[@ablebaker8664]

The police investigated themselves, found wrongdoing, but was uncertain whether they would reimburse their victim... or whether they would stop victimizing her. Qualified immunity needs to be over.

[@ablebaker8664]

@@neilkurzman4907 No, that was sarcasm.

[@ablebaker8664]

@@neilkurzman4907 Some would disagree.

[@ablebaker8664]

@@neilkurzman4907 Several people apparently got the humor. It isn't even an original joke. "The police department investigated itself and found no wrongdoing," is a running joke to the point it's a meme at this point. I'm sorry you didn't snap to that.

[@elanahammer1076]

Thank you for your story. Although it is dated, it is important to mention that it has a practical purpose in my home state. Recently as I was helping out a veteran friend of mine. I had to verify with the tow truck individual that a certain type of plate would be destroyed. This is a classic reason in advocating that it made sense to make sure that the old plates were destroyed. 🤔❤🇺🇸

[@buddygrimfield7954]

This is disgraceful! End qualified immunity so that these crooked bastards have to at least think twice before doing this kind of thing to people.

[@DHFlip18]

Why exactly aren't these people in prison yet? Oh wait, "qualified immunity". Maybe it's time We The People start holding them accountable. Personally accountable.

[@sirslickrock]

Qualified immunity should ONLY apply when an actual honest mistake happens when any person with common sense could reasonably make the same mistake. This is outright criminal and negligence

[@baddierater8214]

@@sirslickrock criminal negligence.* It exists.

[@CAsnowman]

@@sirslickrock the problem is the state government protects its own and eviscerates its own community rather than protecting or serving us.

[@Epiphalactic]

@@sirslickrock it should not apply even on honest mistakes. I can't make an honest mistake and accidentally kill somebody. I still go to jail. Cops don't.

[@theBear89451]

It's not "clearly established" that a cop cannot steal a plate from evidence and use it.

[@danieljones317]

I don't think Qualified Immunity would apply here. The cops knew full well what he was doing, and knew full well it was a crime.

[@IanBPPK]

Qualified immunity near unanimously covers civil liability, but not criminal, so I would agree here.

[@scottlemiere2024]

Then again there is likely no precident for this, so it's unlikely to pass muster for a lawsuit.

[@danieljones317]

Actually, there is. There was a SC case that put a judge away, I think. The final opinion was, "Fraud is not a judicial function, and therefore does not fall under Qualified Immunity."

[@stuartbuckley8720]

Qualified immunity is a blanket to protect the police from everything, period.

[@IanBPPK]

@@stuartbuckley8720 no, it's almost always a civil immunity with limited scope that some courts have interpreted to have broader reach than it really ever did.

[@JTBlotzer]

Update: The city paid the fines and the officer is now working in a unit that investigates gang crimes...

[@dwlopez57]

So basically hes investigating himself

[@martinbond46]

So no accountability.

[@darrellwilliams5657]

Well, at least he is n the right department, he's a gang member.

[@jeremydale4548]

You mean he wasn’t fired?

[@matthewmiller6068]

Risk management - the risk to them has been identified as low because the bills are against some random person, wontfix

[@CharlieK92004]

10/10 that cop has a “throw away gun”.

[@SaberusTerras]

It was an oversight... he oversaw the person installing the plate.

[@swdierks]

"What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account?" - Lady MacBeth. It's not this event that troubles me. It's that the police officer had very good reason to believe that he was immune from the consequences here. It's that arrogance and corruption that bothers me. Our system of judges and prosecutors have obviously given these officers a pass. Want to lie to con or trick someone out of their 5th amendment rights? Sure, go ahead. "I smelled marijuana". A culture of officially sanctioned lying has got to stop.

[@123kpatrick]

"officially sanctioned CRIME has to stop."

[@bohemoth1]

I was recording my driving in my new SUV. The Police pulled me over and said "I SMELL MARIJUANA." Well since I don't smoke anything I said to the Police officer "YOU SMELL YOUR ASS!"

[@ordinarysavage]

Or: "I saw you swerve back there"

[@baddierater8214]

@@bohemoth1 that definitely happened

[@shaunfletcher7087]

so the cop can commit fraud stealing ""monies"" from the woman seems like prison to me

[@cptunderpantz9273]

No policy against stealing from the evidence room?

[@daddynunya9045]

The cop should be charged with busting the toll booth and made to personally pay the tolls.