Politico’s Ian Ward on the Thinkers and Groups Who Have Shaped JD Vance’s Unusual Worldview

[@johnHoiland-eq8ku]

Ignore this at your peril. There is a reason Vance was chosen. A post democratic America is the goal. Trump is not the driver. Trump is the tool.

[@humushumus2219]

Complete nonsense. He will be taken down is probably for his better views.

[@justinesorel6325]

Vance is also cipher for sale to the highest bidder.

[@rickjames4727]

it’s actually not post democratic, but post liberal

[@JBA034]

@@johnHoiland-eq8ku thanks, Blue-Anon supporter for your fearmongering

[@marioguelbenzu2348]

Nonsense, Vance is helping Kamala win, keep vance with trumpet please

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

We're really stretching what qualifies as "intellectual" here, lol.

[@CB_GAMES777]

Like this comment

[@hn6187]

Anti intellectual more likely

[@vicycross6037]

these guys are like 4chan posters with advanced degrees

[@brucemarmy8500]

And by robbery of meaning our language gets deteriorated. Making protest harder, communications strained, bonds weakened.

[@prasvasu4217]

Tell me one thing, how's Chomsky an intellectual? His political dissidence is his unabashed opinion that has nothing to do with Linguistics (where he's actually a genius). How are Marx, Foucalt or any of these guys intellectuals? Intellectuals are people with a vision, a pertinent world view they can back with data... All these people studying liberal arts in ivy leagues types with their tired tropes about society and an opinion to spout catering to a specific audience; and who lend themselves to be used by politicians. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY USELESS and a huge waste of money. Someone who's hands are on real data and storytelling; poll strategists, survey designers or some social intellectuals who at least present their arguments to test it with real world phenomena for merit. These are intellectuals! Left or Right, these liberal arts so called "intellectuals" are frauds that cost us dearly.

[@halaurent]

So, it's o.k. for Vance's wife to be an attorney (and have only one child, which doesn't replace them), but the rest of us should be barefoot and pregnant?

[@brucemarmy8500]

Barefoot and preg-alots. As an American, I thank you for your patriotism, madam.

[@marykayryan7891]

That has been the Right's playbook way back to Phyllis Schlafly. Talk, talk, talk about womens' "rightful place while being out running for office, being attorneys, and generally not HOMEMAKERS! 1984 War is Peace. Lies are Truth. It's what we used to call a mind f--k.

[@YetkhaPakoAson]

They have 3 kids, no ?

[@tubeEseen]

He made her quit the law firm so he can be vp

[@Lerian_V]

Vance has 3 kids so far.

[@marykayryan7891]

How can these people be called "pro-family" when every single thing they stand for undermines families. A decent minimum wage supports families. Paid family leave supports families. Quality public education supports families. Affordable health care supports families. Etc. What they mean by "pro-family" is heterosexual marriages where the man is in charge, the woman is at home having babies (rather than cats, apparently) and is doing as she is told and can neither leave nor control how many children she has. It is not pro-family. It is pro-patriarchy at its worst.

[@brucemarmy8500]

For the most part, I, for one, would rather come home to a houseful of wound-up tots, than an empty house that gets invaded when the can-opener goes on.

[@marykayryan7891]

@@brucemarmy8500 And that is your CHOICE. It's all about choice.

[@brucemarmy8500]

@@marykayryan7891 No it isn't you dope. It's only and always been about opportunity. Like your opportunity to pretend that we get choices. What a tool.

[@Lerian_V]

​@@marykayryan7891It's not all about choice. We have laws (Constitution) to restrict and condition choices.

[@marykayryan7891]

@@Lerian_V I meant that having or not having toddlers running around is all about choice. There are absolutely no "laws" in the Constitution about abortion.

[@mountainhobbit1971]

it seems so immature and childish of Trump and JD to use name calling as one of their main strategies to make others look bad. Seems neither of these guys matured beyond their middle school years.

[@tommcfadden5232]

More disturbing to me is how effective this name calling is among their core supporters. I think it’s effectiveness explains the “hidden” contempt they have for many Americans.

[@janmortimer1758]

Have you listened to the other side?both the same!3rd 🎉

[@lesliebateson4857]

They're meaning white families I presume.

[@Rhythmicons]

Absolutely. The two kids, dog, white picket fence American dream is white only as it doesn't include the types of extended families seen in non-white and immigrant families.

[@christinewarren9660]

Yes. He means white babies.

[@halaurent]

Oh yes. God forbid people of color should reproduce!! They might need welfare (although more white people than black people are on welfare - people like Vance never admit that!).

[@kb_100]

100%. If the goal is simply to ensure the population does not decrease, then immigration can overcome the low birth rate . But these people hate immigration. Funny eh?

[@JBA034]

Just because you are a bigot doesn’t make Vance one. Maybe you need to expand your narrow world view

[@mauromatos3124]

These fools are called boring old school reactionaries. They offer nothing new or interesting. Only lots of sophistry and nostalgia for a country that never existed.

[@NewRealityPill]

It did exist. You need to read history. Our societies are losing identity, meaning. We are in a meaninglessness crisis, nihilism, depression, narcissism. These problems don't arise in a conservative traditionalist system. Remember: Conservatives are happier than liberals, that's ALL you need to know.

[@Lerian_V]

You don't read history. You're dumb.

[@B_Bodziak]

No. Vance's billionaire backers need enough minion workers to keep their corporations churning. That is the sole reason they are concerned about the birth rate. This is why Vance wants to ban all forms of contraceptives and abortion. It's not about religion. His biggest donor, Peter Thiel, is a gay man with a husband.

[@ChannelMath]

​@@NewRealityPill yea nobody got depressed in the dark ages, lol. I guess there's less evidence of narcissism -- in commoners -- because everyone was forced to do almost everything! You probably think there was less nihilism and meaninglessness because everyone was forced to profess religion, often on pain of death! That's what conservative traditionalist systems are and were. That's what that means. It means being subject to the whims of a fewer number of narcissists, depressives, and nihilists, farther up in the hierarchy. I'll take "a crisis of meaninglessness" any day, if I can have my freedom.

[@ChannelMath]

No, they actually long for a country that did exist -- for them. They just don't care that other groups see it differently.

[@jennifermarkens1882]

The New Republic, online/free, has an article by Gil Duran entitled "Where J.D. Vance gets his weird, terrifying techno ideas". In this article the author reports on discussions between Vance, Theil, and a techbro named Curtis Yarvin that include discussions of a massive surveillance state operating to control individual citizens and monitor their private lives Duran also reveals their plans for corporate serfdom where CEO's are the only local government, free to enact whatever brutal means of control necessary: this includes chopping off limbs, incarceration in solitary with "tech" psychological torture. They also examine genocide in these conversations. PLEASE READ THIS. VANCE IS NOT TRUMP'S PICK; He is chosen by the Heritage Foundation as Trump's successor. He is every bit as creepy has he seems but VERY MUCH MORE and this is the intended future of Project 2025. The Supreme Court has given immunity for everything: including the list of horrors enacted by the Naziis, but in a far darker and ultimately broader spectrum of evil, barbarity, and debauchery.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Thanks very much for the tip. I think very few Americans can really get their heads around what these people have in store for the country, or the incredible import of the Supreme Court granting provisional, aka preemptive, immunity for all of it. During the 20th century, much of Latin America was ruled by people with similarly brutal philosophies, and with support from the US foreign policy establishment. In many of these countries, death squads and gruesome forms of torture were the norm. This is what is at stake here now. These "New Right" people are grasping for rationalizations to gain acceptance to bring essentially these same methods to the US.

[@holyworrier]

@@davidmenasco5743 - I doubt that Trump can get his head around it, but to the extent that he can, he probably thinks HE will be the Chief CEO after his presumed next four years in office...

[@JBA034]

You all are Blue-Anon weirdos…Stop with the fearmongering

[@Lerian_V]

​@davidmenasco5743 What precisely are you scared of that is causing this catastrophizing?

[@davidmenasco5743]

@@Lerian_V You'd have to read about or hear about some of the things that the right-wing dictators did in South America. It is impossible to exaggerate how vicious they were. On one hand is the "disappearances." Which is a polite way of saying they committed mass murder in a way that the bodies could not be recovered. They systematically kidnapped political activists who opposed them, and dropped them into the ocean from helicopters. These have been widely reported on and are well known to those who have taken an interest over the years. Also widely reported is the rampant torture of political opponents. What has been less widely reported is the gratuitous torture of people who were not deeply involved in politics. The cases I read about were described by Noam Chomsky. He described a case where a woman's teeth were all pulled out, and then they were stuffed back into her open mouth and her lips sewed shut. As I recall, plastic surgeons often took part in these atrocities.

[@groundedunorthodoxy8000]

Do we see parallels between Elon Musk's and JD Vance's views on declining birth rates and conservatism. Their shared goals for social change through political affiliation are noteworthy, especially given Elon's substantial support for the Republican campaign.

[@silviopina_111]

💯

[@Lerian_V]

Read Catholic Social Teaching and stop guessing. It's about $23 hardcopy.

[@brucemarmy8500]

Children are not a function of sex. Children are a function of society. They come into the world when the parents feel safe. JD Vance wants US population growth; start by paying a living wage. Provide an actual path to home ownership. Defend the population against corporate thuggery. Protect us, stop serving us up to your donors.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Amen!! Back in the 1980s, Mitterrand had a great natality policy. In his first term, PCF was part of the government (and France was flooded with CIA assets as a result). That policy prevented tens of thousands of abortions, while preserving choice and paying most of the cost of elective abortion (but ALL the cost of childbearing, for all women, and that included a clothing allowance). But no one ever talks about that. Hmm.

[@feefop9858]

Yes.....white people are not having babies because they don't want to raise them in poverty. I guess Vance thinks that you need Christian soldiers defending the faith, and if they have to eat out of a garbage can so be it.

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

Short and sweet.

[@Rhythmicons]

Aren't the birthrates higher in regions where there is income insecurity? People tend to have kids whether they feel safe or not. A lot of times it is so there are enough kids to do sustenance agriculture.

[@MrDXRamirez]

Precisely.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Mitterrand had a great natality policy. In his first term, PCF was part of the government (and France was flooded with CIA assets as a result). That policy prevented tens of thousands of abortions, while preserving choice and paying most of the cost of elective abortion (but ALL the cost of childbearing, for all women). But no one ever talks about that. Hmm.

[@gillianpayne7469]

Vance is a fan of a dystopian author by the name of Curtis Yarvin. He, Vance, was recommended by Sebastian Gorka, a strong supporter of Orban of Hungary.

[@MrDXRamirez]

A movement needs reporters like this who can map out the roots of ideologies running through American society. Ultimately, ideologies do not politicize but, rather, mystify conditions imposed on working people in a capitalist society.

[@wynetsang]

Civilized means to be nice and fake. Vance is honest from his point of view and he should be called barbarian instead of weird.

[@CB_GAMES777]

your mom is a weird barbarian

[@user-vy3uz7ji2i]

weird will also work

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

"A person from an alien land, culture, or group believed to be inferior, uncivilized, or violent?"

[@Lerian_V]

I'm trying to understand the point of this post.

[@guybrush3000]

This was a fascinating interview. I really appreciate that Ward doesn't put his own spin on these people, but just conveys the information. I suppose the word "unusual" could have a negative connotation, but is none the less accurate.

[@danishaffer2673]

There’s a word for all this it’s called fascism.

[@user-mf9mb5qh8x]

Why don't they point out that these ideas about women's place in the home and the advantages of traditional roles for women are among the hoariest old conservative talking points that exist. And this is supposed to be the creme de la creme of original, avant-garde ideas from conservative intellectuals?

[@JBA034]

A women’s role is whatever she damn chooses. The point made is similar to Elizabeth Warren’s in the Two Income Trap. We live in an economic order that demands both spouses work. The whole system is rigged against a woman who may want to be a stay at home mom by forcing her into the work place or risk economic insecurity.

[@user-mf9mb5qh8x]

There's a big problem in this discussion of Liberalism. The classical notion of Liberalism, since John Locke, is about individual freedom which includes things like property rights. This form is very closely in line with modern Conservatism. On the other hand, Liberalism in America, as it has been used for the last century, is roughly the same as progressive political ideas and is socially oriented. You see the confusions here! Vance's ideas are a hybrid that ignores these conceptual positions. In particular, emphasizing social solutions to family issues is basically socialism, while Capitalism is really predicated on Classical Liberalism (Locke's ideas) and the supremacy of the individual ( business rights). And since the values of Capitalism are the status quo they are the essence of Conservatism. So this is just confused thinking. OR: Of course, if family rights are not granted as social rights, these could be imposed on citizens as obligations in a modern Theocratic state ( Iran) or secular Fascist state (Hungary). I had excluded this far fetched at first, but you can't underestimate the audacity of these people.

[@gtoddun]

Problem "American democracy has denigrated into a corrupt oligarchy" Solution "Get rid of democracy, consolidate the oligarchy but change the rules so it isn't corrupt any more".

[@joancooney7724]

😂😂

[@pjmlegrande]

What could possibly go wrong?

[@RobinHerzig]

JD Fash, The Handmaid's Tale candidate ☑

[@seansmith3058]

It sounds like Margaret Atwood is an indirect influence as well. 🙏

[@chubsteriffic]

So Vance has “unusual” beliefs? What might those be?

[@JBA034]

He thinks families are the building block of society and that more support should be given to them so that they have less insecurity. Unusual and weird indeed…. Not Democracy Now, but maybe the media likes to spin their own narratives

[@Lerian_V]

Catholic beliefs, what a horrow 😱😱

[@thievingpanda]

Parents should be paid to have children. Once they turn 18, the kid should then receive the payments until age 22 while they obtain a free college education. That will convince more Americans to have children.

[@MrMalcolm900]

I don’t think you can talk about conservatives and such a manner if you don’t ever interview any of them. I just never understood that about outlets like democracy now. It doesn’t interview conservatives, but they come up with these theories and why conservatives believe and the things they believe in, you can learn a lot from somebody by talking to them. Not pretending like they don’t exist just because you don’t like their world views.

[@GwrecksMachina]

There is a huge amount of scientific research and investigative journalism about political conservatives and evangelical christians. You can go on sciencedirect yourself and see 10,000’s of papers.

[@RotoTomDrums]

Conservatives themselves are saying this stuff in public. You don't have to interview them to engage with and learn about the ideas that they public espouse. There's nothing "theoretical" about it. Engaging and critiquing their ideas isn't pretending like they don't exist. It's the total opposite. Your argument would make more sense if you were to just say, "bring them on and let them argue their case".

[@joancooney7724]

Troll 🧌

[@ywtcc]

Vance's Malthusianism isn't especially unusual, it's normal Conservatism. It's just that Malthus wasn't the final word on how to manage a society. They're calling themselves post Liberals, which just means they need a better name. Tentatively, post Neoliberal gets you closer. We've already had a historic post Liberal moment! It's when you update the terms that you start contextualizing Vance's views better. His Conservatism just tried to dismantle a government that is decidedly not Liberal, and utterly failed to do so! This is a new Conservatism that, after placing the burden for funding the government on work, and issuing as much debt as democracy can handle, has come to peace with a social safety net. It turns out that a big government with levers on social mobility, and severely constrained elections, works great for the elite in this society! So, what kind of system takes the democracy out of Socialism? Here, we're getting closer to a better name...

[@skidderskunk649]

Yarvin has some stunningly harebrained ideas about history, society and the solutions to these “problems”. He’s also extremely unimpressive to listen to. Vance should be embarrassed that he’s listed as an influence

[@meshiawriter]

The birthrate wont go up till minimum wage does. Pple cant afford large families, and those who can have to work so hard their children are raised by daycares not parents

[@tommcfadden5232]

Sadly I know a number of families where the parents both make well over 150k and still have their children raised by others

[@arrowslinger2460]

what is wrong with having pro family policies... there are a lot of things i hate vance for but PLEASE pivot to attacking his positions on abortion and foreign policy instead... most of us like pro family policies. A younger population creates a more progressive voter base, a healthier economy and a more prosperous society.

[@sylvester2294]

Vance is not entirely right about Cat ladies...some of them have dogs.....big dogs!!

[@lugortube]

It’s an interesting stance to wrap your enemies in scary ideologies and yet be unaware of the origins of your own unoriginal thinking.

[@michael.schuler]

As independents and progressives, are we allowed to agree with any of the views of these "thinkers"? While I disagree with their fascist solutions to perceived problems, I find a number of the problems they see as real and in need of solutions the left rejects out of hand. This tribal gang-think and the summary ex-communication from the fold for dissenters associated with it on either side appears as a portent to the end of critical thought. Wholesale acceptance of the policies of either side is rendered invalid by the dysfunctional state of the nation that has brought the nation and the world to its current state. (BTW, the guest's reportage here came across as objective and devoid of hyperbole or alarm. Amy consistently allows her guests freedom to express themselves as they wish. Very refreshing.)

[@71suns]

You're over generalizing

[@michael.schuler]

@@71suns Please cite an example where the public narrative has supported nuanced discussion of issues in recent years.

[@kathycarraher5014]

How about educating the public that Hungarians are a unique ethnic group, Their language is very different from any European. genetically they are not Slavic or Germanic .The population of Hungary cannot be compared to the United States which has a very diverse population that is a conglomeration of numerous genetic and language groups.

[@tommcfadden5232]

Isn’t their language similar to that of the Finns?

[@kathycarraher5014]

@@tommcfadden5232 Not really they stemmed from the same linguist family as Finnish but the languages are not alike. There is a lot of info on internet about where the Hungarian language developed..There is nothing definitive.

[@Hannah2012able]

OMG! THAT IS NOT CHRISTIAN!!!!! WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE. WELL LEAVE!

[@janedvinsson]

Anything that can set people apart is alright with Vance.

[@user-bn4zz3gb2h]

Babies are important to continue life. Family friendly policies are lacking in the USA.

[@MizzAndreaJ]

This is what needs to be said more !! Everyone is wondering where this PICK came from ?? Is the heritage fund in anyway tied to Trumps super donor ?? Our first intro to Vance was Charleston …why would Trump do that !?!

[@Seekthetruth3000]

DN should interview JD Vance.

[@paulheydarian1281]

As long as they discuss eyeliner application and the Handmaid's Tale by Maggie Atwood.

[@zyxw2024]

That's not how Democracy Now! operates, reporting the facts & interviewing truthful guests. EVIL doesn't get to spew their rhetoric on DN!

[@ramstrong1961]

Glenn Greenwald Who is JD Vance and what does he really believe

[@tommcfadden5232]

Vance strikes me as your typical political opportunist. He wet his finger and held it up to the wind. When he felt the breeze blowing in Trump’s favor he stopped criticizing him and slavishly began sucking up to him. His lack of any deeply held political convictions other than saying anything to gain power is the most disturbing thing about him in my opinion. There are many politicians like him on both sides of the political aisle.

[@auto117666]

Ian looks and sounds so much like the host of the KZbin show named “Not even a show”

[@paulheydarian1281]

That was funny 🤣, yet too vague and kinda fringy-cringy imho. 😜

[@TheGeorgeous]

Vance hates cats, because they ruin couches.

[@gogomurph1776]

😂😂😂

[@deadname...]

Unfortunately Snopes Fact Check and others gave the couch claim a "False" rating, but keep up the disinformation.

[@TheGeorgeous]

@@deadname... When has facts stopped a good story since trump came around ?

[@deadname...]

@@TheGeorgeous Right,there has never been this level of liberal media backed disinformation . Trump is the rock honest journalism broke itself upon.

[@romanski5811]

​@@deadname... Snopes is a liberal propaganda machine, I wouldn't trust any fact check, they did. The couch story is real, it was leaked in an unpublished chapter of JD Vance's book, and I think he should address this matter publicly and not run from it.

[@solopreneurjourney]

American women are fiercely independent. You are not going to be able to force them to have babies.

[@marioguelbenzu2348]

We have monarchy in Spain and freedom, democracy

[@Michael-yg1qd]

Catholics have the spottiest memory of the past. Almost as if it's inbuilt.

[@JBA034]

@@Michael-yg1qd thanks for that bigoted anti-Catholic comment

[@pjmlegrande]

I was raised Roman Catholic, went to a Catholic middle school for several years, and was an altar boy for 4 years. A few months before my 17th birthday, I had an epiphany of sorts in one night of deep discussion with my best friend in which the entire edifice of my Catholic faith crumbled. In my mind I’ve revisited that discussion many times to check the soundness of my thinking and refine it. I could not put my Catholic beliefs and faith back together again. I’ve spent the remainder of my life searching for meaning and grappling with the mystery of existence and, although I’ve not adopted any comprehensive framework to hang my psycho-spiritual hat on, I’m still energized by the search which continues, in fits and starts, to this day at age 75. In rejecting Catholicism at 17, I didn’t do so angrily or with the certitude of the convert to a new creed. On the contrary, it was a bit like saying goodbye to a benign parental figure whose authority over my conceptions was revealed to be irreparably flawed. I nevertheless held certain ideas I’d been raised with in high regard, such as the Catholic emphasis on actually doing charitable works as opposed to giving the idea of charity lip service or fulfilling the obligation by throwing money at it. Sadly, I’ve lost respect entirely for the institution of the Church, as it has demonstrated in recent years, in various ways, its moral bankruptcy. Please beware of so-called Catholic “philosophers” like Deneen and adherents like Vance. Their project is to build a comprehensive framework of control over our lives, whether we like it or not.

[@gregrice1354]

Great report. Important information. I wish people stopped using the Henry Kissinger school of public speaking style, with throaty gutteral uh uh uhuh run together as a fake base note instead of the common humble single utterance of "uh" or "um", the preferred unprofessional stalling method .

[@jennifermarkens1882]

Please read the article in the next post down . . . you are not reporting the depth of depravity on the FASCIST right.

[@bigcatproductions2789]

💙🇺🇸 Vance is Dis - Pence - able 💙🌊🇺🇸

[@paulheydarian1281]

I suppose you want us to call you clever or something. 🙄🤔🤪

[@bigcatproductions2789]

@@paulheydarian1281 I can't tell you what your opinion would mean to me . 😂

[@SuperHyperExtra]

The VOICE of this man. Eeeerrrr... eeeeerrrrrr... eeeeeerrrrrr....

[@jorgebenavente9872]

Shame he didn't get to talk about Rod Dreher, the funniest idiot of all

[@HypatiaMuse]

Chapo Trap House has some hilarious material on him.

[@terriseaton3049]

Cool graphic! Shows there IS something in Vance’s head!

[@TheFinav]

Religion Poisons Everything... the great Christopher Hitchens once said. And he was dead on.

[@ChannelMath]

This Denin guy is surprisingly acute in his diagnosis or society. But I'll take our modern ills over the authoritarianism he's offering!

[@diannawatkins1723]

U S. population has more than doubled since the 1950s. Maybe we need to slow down & have more resources for fewer people? It's become impossible to raise a family and financially survive nowadays. The Republican agenda is the reason the middle class is shrinking & maybe rich people need to get off their butts & cut their own grass.

[@mike9rr]

Newt Gingrich also converted to Catholicism. Got on the cover of Time for it even.

[@GaliCarmel]

One of the best interviews in Democracy Now, where ideas are presented and allow thought. I recommend more of this

[@zinjanthropus322]

Lol, it's like watching toddlers trying to read a textbook.

[@eoharafisher]

Most of the theologians reflecting on Rene Girard’s theories are anti-violence, anti-war, justice seekers. I never understood Thiel’s attraction (he appears to be about ego and $$.) Now Vance?

[@Jamski101]

Kamala..selected not elected.

[@ssb1056]

She was elected

[@tonet6601]

Catwoman Harris vs Plantation owners.......children would benefit more from who?

[@pjmlegrande]

That all ya got?

[@paulantonio740]

JD Vance is "weird"? Lol.

[@tjp_real]

IMAGINE A DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM WITHOUT PARTIES -------> TRUE DEMOCRACY FOR THE PEOPLE !

[@emhu2594]

We have oligarchy now.

[@ywtcc]

Maybe if your society is composed entirely of lawyers! LOL! Us simple folk are going to need some help, here. This is why we have to settle for representatives. There's room to be creative here. Maybe we should be voting for cabinets, instead of individuals. For an informal true democracy, you're limited to a few hundred people, with one leadership group, optimistically. Here, I think workplaces could be better organized into democratic teams. Economically, you could build larger organizations from modular democratic teams. Also, there's all kinds of opportunities for pro democratic regulation of social media. (Such as limiting accounts to real people.) There's democracy in the air, we should smash and grab all we can get on this one!

[@BruceBeatriceBowyer]

Great comment! Sounds a lot like RFK's platform and his promise to draw his government from ALL parties!!

[@caryh8]

They're the real life Sons of Jacob

[@SavannahMandem]

Where do his views come from? Russia… It’s obvs. There’s a very obvious web of far-right and far-left groups across the Westenr world who are literally parroting the same talking points. And do you know what else they have in common? They all love Russia.

[@ZenBen_the_Elder]

Victor Orban, Patrick Deneen, Girard DM [2:00-3:57]

[@zombiehampster1397]

He is just another sign of the "normalization" of MAGA "values" if you can call them that. Now both the repub nom for president and vice president are almost equally crazy /obnoxious.

[@jessicabosco3009]

No flying cars lol

[@deadname...]

*Attention* Democrats are now holding open "JD Vance sexual assault accuser" auditions. Contact your local DNC office or post resume here. *Harris 24 !!*

[@joancooney7724]

Look at all the Trolls on this thread 😂

[@nessunodorme3888]

This guy seems way too accepting of Vance's bullshit.

[@rizanz2108]

Has JD Vance advised men in vatican already?😂

[@treznicek]

Unusual?? Maybe you guys should read the book you promoted on this channel to know who all the “unusual” people are who influenced him.

[@briandecaire5403]

JD Vance is a Republican ‘intellectual’, which means he is an adherent of reactionary opinions that have no empirical foundation.

[@TR-707]

unusual? this is pretty usual imo

[@StateOfPurgatory]

Who cares what he calls how about these ce leaders start to talk about genocide

[@bigcatproductions2789]

Elementary School insults. ? ? 👶

[@tonet6601]

Definitely wouldn't want childless cat ladies implementing stringent guidelines in our society.....

[@jennifermarkens1882]

Worse than a monarchist: do more reading please.

[@numericalcode]

The world average fertility rate was 2.4 in 2021

[@finn3408]

Why is this news program attacking JD VANCE ???

[@Seekthetruth3000]

DN is a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party that claims to be independent.

[@joecasey7415]

Catholic bad. Jewish good. Got it

[@MuratDagcan]

Young Michelle Clark Patricia Garcia Frank

[@user-pj6lu9lh1y]

Vance's stories continue to be the best media's broadcasting info .... everyone includes voters, celebrities, and even people around the world glue in. This election race is all about Vance 😂

[@joancooney7724]

Wrong,it’s now about Kamala 😂

[@Citizens.Democracy_Jan.Larsen]

sad, that you continue to decide NOT to cover & work for any real change in USA! You can do this TODAY, by Covering Jill Stein !!! (who is working to change USA - STOP THE GENOCIDE - STOP THE WAR-MONGERS - get much better contitions for your homeless people !!!) You now have got 100 days, to change this - and show us viewers & supporters - that we should keep on supporting you!

[@robertmarley8852]

Jd Vance looks like a regular guy to me 🤔

[@nsbd90now]

That's creepy.

[@CB_GAMES777]

@@nsbd90now your mom likes him

[@nsbd90now]

@@CB_GAMES777 My mom is a couch.

[@lovejoy11_11]

Until he opens his mouth.

[@lugortube]

Doesn’t this just make Vance seem interesting?

[@Jewelvonmayhem]

I'm the self-appointed Queen of the Puffer Fish Ladies and we HATE JD Vance too!

[@CB_GAMES777]

you hate who the media tells you to hate, plain and simple. think for yourself, or keep voting for establishment status quo reps that don't rep you.

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

You forgot to mention Lance Vance and Victor Vance from the Grand Theft Auto series. Peerless thinkers of politics.

[@kray97]

Thiel is a technofascist

[@questionmark7045]

wenezuala

[@AngeloPerfili]

My Monday war on piss report..........................wheeee.............................eh, KZbin?

[@Gettothegone]

Democracy Now hosting politico is hilarious. Amy your stuck in 2008

[@user-zi8qe6tf9f]

I am your sister from Yemen, and by Allah I only spoke out of hunger and distress. My mother, my brothers, and I lessons and tears. We are in a situation that only God knows about. God is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs for those who brought us to this situation. By Allah Almighty, I did not write this appeal out of distress and distress. Poverty, O world, they have felt it So, I hope for you. By Allah Almighty, Lord of the Great Throne, he ate what I had in the house. By Allah, my brothers, he is my brothers by sitting in the house. Who has no food? By God, we are in a very difficult situation. We have 6 people entering the house, and my father has died, and there is no one who can depend on us and who lives in it.We live in a rented house because we cannot pay the rent we owe. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' My brother, my first words are: I swear to God that I will not lie to you or deceive you. I am a Yemeni girl displaced from the war. My family and I live in a rented house in Al-Shahrab 15,000 Yemenis among us, and now we owe 45,000 for 3 months. The owner of the house is one of the people who does not have mercy, by God, my brother. He comes every day, insulting us, talking about us, and moving from the house to the street because we were unable to pay him the rent. The neighbors saw us crying and came back.They came back to talk to the neighbors and we were given the weekend. So we made him swear by God. He will take us out into the street. Have mercy on him and us. Our country is due to this war and we do not find food for our day, and my brothers and I live in a difficult life. Our father died, may God have mercy on him, and we have no one in this world who was with us in these harsh circumstances. My younger brothers went out into the street and saw...The neighbors eat and stand at their door in order to give them bread even if they break it. By God, to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, they closed the door and expelled them and came back crying. They are dying of hunger. No one has mercy on them and a holiday is returned. I have made a living, and now if one of us helps us with a kilo of flour, I swear to God, I am dying of hunger. My brother, I am an alien to God. Then, I ask you to help me for the sake of God. I ask you, by God, to love goodness and to help me, even if you can, by messaging me on WhatsApp.On this number 00967717354582 and ask for the name of my card and send it and do not be late and may God reward you with all the best, my brothers Sagar, see how they are and help us and save us before they throw us out in the street, you will be lost or we will die of hunger. My family and I ask you, by God, if you are able to help us, do not be late and may God reward you well..`/-~~~~: ~:~¡~¡~¡~;.................😢😢😢😢😢...،.،..،.،..،..،.،..

[@cliftongaither6642]

seems your god has done absolutely nothing to help you.

[@CB_GAMES777]

@@cliftongaither6642 seems your god (zionism) has done everything to harm them.

[@cliftongaither6642]

@@CB_GAMES777 sorry, but im not delusional enough to believe in bronze/iron age fairytales.

[@meh3247]

## ROBOT ALERT... ROBOT ALERT... ##

[@rlm66101]

"Politico" is all I need to know, to see where this guy's perspective came from (a big, fat paycheck. That's where) You used to be cool, Goodman. You used to be reputable, Democracy Now!

[@blakestoweyoutub1000]

kamalla buttguage might be just the ticket.