Jen Rubin: Why Joe & Mika Went To See Trump

[@carolynrussell4215]

No respect for Joe or Mika or anyone that defends them. I quit watching their show. I won't miss Joe talking over everyone anymore.

[@Queenie-the-genie]

That's the main reason I never watch any clips of them.

[@rpallen3129]

It was very liberating when I realized that I didn't HAVE to let someone yell at me at 6 a.m. 😀 / Bye, Felicia--oh, I mean "Joe."

[@glenndrake6172]

Hew never shuts up. He's always got to have the last word. Blab blab blab.

[@justdance3049]

@carolynrussell4215 a friend that still watches them, said he was unbelievable with talking over and interrupting this morning

[@rpallen3129]

@@justdance3049 I am a man and his talking-over people drives--well, DROVE--me mad.

[@analogblues]

Joe and Mika lost me forever when they kissed the ring. Shameless and gutless on their part. Jon Stewart’s response to Mika’s question of “why not?” was perfect: “Because you said he’s Hitler.”

[@jacqueline755]

I hope people recall that that's how Mika and Joe BEGAN their Show! In 2015-6 they were going to Mar a Lago, they were fan-boying Trump. It didn't last long... but it was their beginning!

[@elcidlord]

Another opinion. Bottom line. Joe n Mika sucking butt to a unhinged, psycho.!

[@breakmylegs7294]

​@jacqueline755 Their channel should change its name to morning blow

[@johnheaton5058]

Yep..exactly.

[@wm8673]

OMG I was just thinking about this. Done with Scarborough!!

[@annejohnson5875]

Wow, Ms. Rubin, you are right. I have not watched MSNBC or any other news since the election. And definitely no Joe and Mika.

[@MothGirl007]

Same, and I don't miss it, at all.

[@annejohnson5875]

@MothGirl007 neither do I. I'm not missing the Washington Post subscription I canceled either. Jennifer Rubin was one of the few reasons why I was thinking about staying, but luckily she makes excellent KZbin videos

[@anneubanks52]

It’s possible for some at MSNBC to survive and adapt. I respect Hayes, Maddow, and Lawrence. They just can’t survive in their current format. I think any of those three would be excellent at podcasting. Jon Stewart has gone that way. His weekly podcast is on my list every week. As for Joe and Mika. Joe is an arrogant ass and Mika follows him like a puppy. They didn’t care about opening communication. They are scared of Donald. Appeasement has never worked and kissing the ring won’t save Joe and Mika. Donald never forgives or forgets a slight.

[@rhondah1587]

Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid are still good anchors there on MSNBC.

[@ravenswingsmedicnecardread9447]

Hayes, Maddow, Lawrence and Reid.

[@MaryBethSmith-lq9qf]

Hi Jen. I’m a 67 yr.old college educated female. When I learned Mica and Joe went to meet with Trump, I was sickened and disgusted! I haven’t watched since after the show on Monday. I actually turned it off after they announced the meeting. I like Politicon, The Bulwark, The Meidas Touch Network and the various liberal comedians! Thank you for your show! It actually made me laugh and I felt the truth you shared! I will definitely follow!

[@LeePNLB]

The Bulwark is phenomenal.

[@CarterQuillenP.E.]

Spend more time listening to outlets you can't stand listening to. There is a reason they call it "programming" because you're being "programmed". It is essential to listen to ideas you don't agree with if you want to have any hope of writing your own program in life rather than being manipulated by others.

[@stone5015]

Me too.

[@Marcia-z5r]

My feelings exactly. Jen. I gradually cut back on who I follow on MSNBC, to where I now watch only Chris Hayes. I couldn't watch any more rehashing of the same stories. over and over and over. Post-election was even worse. I've found some good podcasts to follow WHEN I want the news. I can listen while doing other things, which I appreciate.

[@crobert79]

you are brainwashed. go out for a walk

[@ablkangel]

Everything you said is true. I'm 67 Black female who watched MSMBC from morning till night. I stopped the night of the election. KZbin is where I come now.

[@cecileroy557]

Me too

[@hollihawk1]

WOW! Watching MSNBC "morning til night" must have taken quite a toll on your brain. God help you.

[@ablkangel]

@hollihawk1 , I was addicted after I retired. Yes, it did take a toll on my brain. I now feel liberated.

[@malindaallinson5749]

I turned 69 today. I've been watching online reporting too.

[@ablkangel]

@malindaallinson5749 Happy birthday!

[@postoak2755]

Joe Scarborough is in love with the sound of his voice. He just wants to keep on talking! 'nuff said!

[@LauraShore-p6r]

You got that right. This is exactly what I was thinking about commenting on. That guy never shuts up and he truly loves listening to the sound of his own voice. I quit watching that show a long time ago.

[@susanlewis1875]

And Mika does the commercial breaks and 'there, there' pats for precious Joe. Blecccchhhhh She can't even read a prompter adequately,

[@LeahS-e5i]

Omg I so agree and say (said) that every single morning! He is SO RUDE to everyone on the panel, esp. Mika, it’s laughable! He asks them a question and NEVER STFU to allow them to even answer!

[@MrAitraining]

He asks the longest questions I have ever heard. Like 5 minute questions after he gives his opinion within it.

[@ailleananaithnid2566]

Joe’s a narcissist.

[@jemrock2000]

Mika and Joe are done for me.

[@dalemills2906]

You can’t trust them.

[@beaurex4756]

I never trusted Joe, Mika's dad was really a Republican. Nobody should feign shock. You kept talking about deflecting but didn't mention genuflecting.

[@sandyd3686]

ALL corporate media is Complacent ! Later 👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾💰💰💰🤑

[@sandyd3686]

👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾💰💰💰🤑 perfer BTC Popok Kirschner and Meidas touch 😎

[@danjones3009]

Me too.

[@deborahwade2641]

I don't watch MSNBC or CNN anymore and I've NEVER watched fox. Thankyou Jen for telling it straight.

[@nizguy]

FOX never told you that - "Crime is going down" while actually violent crime has gone up 4.5% in 2022 ..... .. "border walls don't work" (Harris said they did not work and now pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border), "Biden is sharp as a tack" (just watch the debate, if you can stand it), there were 800,000 more jobs created than there actually were, inflation was temporary (actual 18% cumulative overall, 25% FOOD), the border is secure (actual at least 8 million illegals), Putin is the cause of inflation, the Hunter laptop was Russian, or that 1/6 was an insurrection even if not one person has been charged with insurrection...that was all Harris/Biden, and you fell for it ....Let that sink in.

[@annejohnson5875]

@deborahwade2641 CNN is really bad. I hate those stupid round table "discussions" they have where everyone is talking over everyone else, trying to say something provocative for click bait. It teaches nothing except that you'll get a headache if you listen to a bunch of people shouting over each other. Never, ever watched Fox either, but looking for a news outlet I can rely on to be informative.

[@Katrinathevirgo]

@@annejohnson5875 try the hill, the AP and Reuters. You get straight news without all the nonsense.

[@SokaDeb]

I used to watch Fox a long time ago and that's how I became such a deluded voter.

[@deborahwade2641]

Aww, don't beat yourself up.​@@SokaDeb

[@jameslangschied7900]

Thanks, Jen. I am an old, retired newspaper editor and I am so very tired of banging my head against the wall trying to understand all of this. We, the ghosts of journalism past, thought of ourselves as gatekeepers and guardians of a sacred and universal treasure: truth. We learned from grumpy city editors who pounded their desks and threatened us with holy hell if we assumed anything or added any superficial frills to our first efforts at reporting. "Just the facts, dammit. Get the facts. Got it!!? Now, I wonder, many years later, what happened to those damned facts. Keep up the good job, kid. We're with you.

[@cdubyuh4512]

You 100% nailed it! I've watched maybe a cumulative total of 6 hours of MSNBC and CNN post-election. Each attempt at viewership ends in disgust within minutes. Joe and Mika's "breaking news" of their trek to MarALago, along with their smug rationale (excuse) was the last straw. Done with them, and done with their panelists and guests who offered ZERO pushback. Thank you for speaking truth when far too many others have utterly betrayed their audience and, IMHO, our very democracy.

[@kristinamusantejd735]

Thank you Jen. Appalling cowardice.

[@chefgirl1996]

Only Lawrence 💙

[@joelbrown3479]

Holding the LINE

[@Collageartist69]

And Rachel are the best.

[@jamesmcmanus2589]

⁠thank you Jen.

[@AquariusinAZ]

Yeah, I love him, too.

[@Queenie-the-genie]

Love Lawrence - my fave. 🩵

[@iuutoob]

3:40 MSNBC "Get rid of chewing over the same 3 or 4 stories all day." Amen!

[@barrymoore4470]

I have a fairly high tolerance for that format, but clearly a lot of others have grown tired of it, including my sister, who almost never watches cable news channels like MSNBC anymore.

[@rdharris802]

You can view a couple MSNBC KZbin videos and see the entire days programing in 20 minutes. Same with CNN. To watch these cable news program you would think only 2 or 3 news worthy events happened each day.

[@lisak0806]

Goodbye Morning Joe. Had watched it for years. No more. I will continue to watch Lawrence O’Donnell.

[@iuutoob]

Some of the talking heads are serious journalists, but MSNBC has a propaganda function, not unlike Fox "News". We just happen to think that they're not lying with every story. People like O'Donnell explain the stories by pounding the same point(s) over and over. Boring.

[@LakeLouise1000]

I agree about stopping the same 3 stories on repeat all day. I stopped watching CNN the night of the election because It was so depressing realizing The Convicted Felon was going to be the next president. I haven’t watched it since for the same reason - it’s too depressing. I will watch CNN again when “Trump Dead” news travels around the world. Dead from natural cause,,,,of course. 💙

[@firstsergeantcandiobelleus6546]

Joe and Mika never did real journalism, been in the field, in harm's way. They got stupid rich, and they fear trump and his bullying, they kissed the ring and my family was applaud... Jen Rubin is so right. I won't watch Morning Joe ever again. I am done with politics and hearing that man's name and seeing his face, all the time. I am so sick and disappointed. That man has fleeced America again, the greatest con man in modern history. They lost me & my family. People will never learn that whatever trump does, touches or is a part of-dies including careers.

[@monicaberlin1901]

@@firstsergeantcandiobelleus6546 Well said

[@david40271]

I'm 67 and was the perfect boomer which consumed large amounts of Cable Television. My viewing habits have considerably shifted to KZbin and other screens. Great point!

[@geofo60]

I'm a 73 year old Brit, have been subscriber of MSNBC for around eight years. I also watch other cable news outlets in order to get a better understanding of the News across the pond. Several times I've been close to ending my subscription, mostly because of Joe's constant interruptions of guests. Following his and Mika's trip to kiss Trump's ring, I have finally decided to cancel the subscription. I prefer tuning into Podcasts like The Bulwark and Meidas among others.

[@eiremic]

I watched Morning Joe for the past 8 years. I have to say there have been times when Joe is trying. No doubt he is a smart man, but his opinion of himself took the oxygen out of the room. He is often demeaning, in my opinion, to Mika. This whole Mar-a-Lago thing and especially the ‘thumbs up’ photo, was the final straw. Mika…. Where is Know Your Value? They had potential, but their seeking relevance killed their integrity. Not going back.

[@carolyneasley8980]

@@eiremic "know your value" valued her bank account 🏦

[@LindyS1830]

Mika was so smug when telling about her nauseating visit, it made me want to hurl. Stopped watching them after election, but saw it on Bulwark.

[@Civilizashum]

Well, there's zero chance that I'll be tuning in, but the thumbs-up shot was from 8 yrs ago or that. It does show how they initially were part of the thrust to normalize the world's greatest asshole.

[@debadam1660]

I always disliked the way J with his self important attitude talked over everyone and especially Mika. Like you said Jen, why are they worried about their jobs. Combined they’re probably billionaires. Don’t need ‘em👎👎

[@ailleananaithnid2566]

I was a Mika fan for a long time, especially for her feminism & advocacy for women’s issues. I didn’t like the format when the two of them were paired. Joe always talks over Mika when she tries to make a point. Joe is the alpha male and she is supposed to be submissive. It’s not the Joe & Mika show, it’s the Joe Scarborough show. He doesn’t let her forget that. I really didn’t get it when they married. This was not a case of opposites attract. I agree, he demeans her on air. There is no call for that and it was obvious that she didn’t like it. I don’t know why the producers encourage that but I stopped watching. I suspect that Joe is emotionally abusive off screen. Their relationship gives me the impression of being dysfunctional at best, toxic, more likely.

[@rogereverett4467]

I watched Morning Joe for years. No more.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

I watched them for years, and will keep watching. They have my support for looking to the future for a new way. The old way didn't work for us. I love Jen too!

[@SeptemberChild1835]

You’ll be back.

[@DippyHippie]

@@Marty_Wanlassoh my god! Well,then,you’re nuttier than they are!

[@loftbuckleyrc]

I despise anyone who would legitimize someone like Trump.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

You can keep pretending he won't be President, I wish he weren't either, but that's reality. I'm proud of Mika and Joe.

[@diamondkutz54]

I guess you despise the majority of the voters in this country then. That's an awful amount of hate to carry around inside. You're only hurting yourself because I guarantee they could care less about how you feel.

[@boffo63]

@@diamondkutz54 Well, 1/3 of the voting age population is hardly a majority. He still barely won, I mean if we believe the voting this time. Should we believe this voting?

[@boffo63]

NBC

[@LindyS1830]

@@diamondkutz54sure DO! Will never understand the way they want to give up civil liberties and rights. Have zero point zero use for any of them.

[@chobidebroy967]

Hi Jennifer, I loved reading your column in WaPo. I unsubscribed from WaPo after 25 years since Jeff Bezos refused to endorse Kamala. I am glad you are starting Politicon. I can now hear your views once again. Thank you

[@sunflower8075]

Jen remains at the Washington Post. Consider resubscribing to support her and leave Amazon instead.

[@kingcormack8004]

@@sunflower8075 Until Wapo fires Marc Thiessen, they'll never gain back my respect.

[@raysolt2984]

Ask Jen Rubin why she didn't resign from WaPo after they refused to endorse Kamala Harris. After she demanded people at the LA Times resign for the same reason. Why does she expect others to do what she won't do herself?

[@danielkelly6275]

Great to stumble on Jen'spodcast always been a fan

[@lizlorraine463]

Im glad cable news is dying! I felt abused by Comcast for years. Im 77.5 yo old. You are spot on Jen, so smart, so honest. Hopefully we’ll get through this terrible time. I dumped cable years back to stream everything in an iPad, and they didn’t like it!! I know you through Mary Trump. Thanks to brave people like you, Mary and others we stand strong against these fascists.

[@Queenie-the-genie]

I have not had a TV since the late 70's.

[@dennisyoung4631]

Never owned a TV - too much “nose to the grindstone” due to being disabled…. No energy left over from school/job…

[@hollihawk1]

Liz what specifically has changed for you since Nov 5th that has made it a "difficult" time? Besides your feelings....

[@delfabro2]

I only listen to Lawrence at the Last Word. Thank you for your honesty!

[@rhondah1587]

I never miss Rachel Maddow either.

[@PattySoffer]

I hope he starts his own KZbin Show

[@pickpennyrd9183]

Lawrence is the best show out there anywhere!

[@raeelsley2984]

I listen to Keith oberlman on a podcast on yt,I’m not American and sometimes it goes over my head,and he says things I can’t relate too,but I like the history lessons he gives and his anger issues and his pets,I think he’s a bit of a narcissist but that he’s aware of it.

[@jonmartin88]

Morning Joe is dead to me, just like every damn Trump voter.

[@nizguy]

The death of democrats in one thought .."do not talk to people that do not agree with us"

[@FJB8646]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂….takes a breath….😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 So half the country is dead to you?? Bwaahhhhh!!!! Haaaaa!!!!! Haaaa!!!!

[@digvid]

@@FJB8646 What are you insane, ha, ha, ha, ha!

[@jonmartin88]

@Far, far less than half the country. Looks like latest count gives. Trump 76 million, 789 thousand. There are just about 336 million people in the country. So the mighty MAGA represents about 20%, still far too many ignorant racist morons but not half the country and easily ignored.

[@sallylunn8324]

Where’s the real Trump?

[@genemetcalf9435]

This is my first time listening to your channel. I've seen you many times on MSNBC and the fact that you are a contributor and speaking this way about the network has earned my respect. I look forward to watching your channel in the future.

[@stone5015]

Same for me.

[@colkestrel56]

Jen, I really, really appreciate your calm and measured presence, especially since the election. Thanks!

[@bonzrh68]

Thank you Jen for taking this issue. Joe and Mika sickened to my stomach to the core! I am very much disgusted by them. I still don’t watch news, I only watch your podcast and Steve Schmidt podcast! I only watch Jimmy Kimmel too, that’s it for now, but I’m so shocked learning about Joe and Mika from you, Steve, and Jimmy Kimmel! Thanks for standing up against the fascists, I can’t and will never watch Morning Joe and Morning Mika anymore! These people disgust me to my core!

[@bacaloubaca]

.. in a sense it's a self-own; their whole network is losing viewership & why tf would maga ppl watch them when they can watch faux news 🥸🤔😅

[@EarlyRiser71]

So, another person who only listens to left media. No wonder all of you are psychos.

[@AzEagletarian]

I very much appreciate your boldness and candor as you provide news/analysis/current events. Thank you Jen.

[@marciapeterson4404]

Well, thanks for bringing up Joe and Mika’s visit to see 45. It was a shock to say the least. Glad you are true to yourself and your viewers.

[@nizguy]

The death of democrats in one thought .."do not talk to people that do not agree with us"

[@Marty_Wanlass]

Of course, they could stay on the same old, same old. But no, they are looking outside the box and will now be able to move forward with a new plan.

[@Censortube-s3f]

Correction... 45 AND 47. 😂

[@frankvolz7021]

You’re exactly right about Joe and Mika! I was a loyal viewer until their recent trip to Mar A Largo! I haven’t tuned in since.

[@pthompson8058]

Their visit to Mar a Lago was the final straw for me to quit watching Joe and Mika, forever . DJT is a disgusting human being and is not worthy of any respect that would normally be afforded to an incoming President. The disrespect he showed to Joe Biden and our wounded and dead soldiers is unforgivable. I don't think Joe Biden should attend the inauguration, but I imagine he will and I respect his decision. I will not watch one minute of the inauguration. Joe & Mika were terribly wrong to go kiss the ring at Mar a Lago, That's All Folks

[@designermannyc]

Right on, Jen. Keep it real and I’ll always be here!

[@caroleoddie1895]

I haven’t watched MSNBC since they dumped on President Biden after the debate.

[@SlimKeith11]

He did a HORRIBLE job in the debate and it as clear, he's not long able to be an effective president for another term. The world say it, to say nothing would have made us like MAGA. We were supposed to bury our heads in the sand? I don't understand your point. The adults gotta live in realty.

[@Dianne-q2i]

Biden seems to be doing a good job doing what he can legally to curb Trumps plans!

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@SlimKeith11 So true!...Hard to admit, he did a fine job as President, but clearly lost his "mojo", and right now seems almost like a stroke survivor. Kamala did her best, but it was too little, too late. I think Gavin Newsome would have been the obvious person to run this time around, but Biden did not want to step aside soon enough!...and even Newsome has a few "issues"!

[@dpej5167]

President Biden ran in 2020 on the one term promise. People had doubts about his age in 2020 and he commented many times that they should vote for him because he would only run the one term. Most people forget this. Of course anyone is entitled to change their mind but in his case it was a bad decision.

[@joecopeland4586]

​@SlimKeith11 How's that working for you ? To base Bidens fitness on a bad night. Then conveniently forget every other appearance he made after that ? Don't worry about be coming maga ...you already are .

[@melissahale3637]

I stopped watching MSM a while ago. I watch Meidas, BTC, Bullwark, Lincoln, Pakman, Pod Save... However, I am really struggling to watch even those. Been an extremely horrible month. Easier to listen to only the legal information right now. Hopefully get back into it more soon. Just got onto Bluesky, it has helped me a lot .

[@EarlyRiser71]

My god, so you only listen to left media? I think I have diagnosed your issues!!!

[@sandyd3686]

Also Popok and Kirschner 👍👍😎 truth matters 💪 💙

[@SlimKeith11]

@@EarlyRiser71 Oh spare me the hypocrisy, go slither back into your hole.

[@jemrock2000]

@melissahale3637 all my fav and James Carville here too!!! I no longer care to hear or watch Joe and Mika, what they say is all BS now. They have an audience of 1 now!!!

[@AdrienneDecker]

Shrinking Trump is an excellent podcast.

[@bsonder]

I appreciate you Ms. Rubin and I gave up msnbc and cnn since the morning after the election. Joe and Mika sucking up to Trump was despicable.

[@sleuthjill7653]

I found their actions appalling and I vowed not to watch them again. I have checked out from ALL cable news and it has been truly liberating in just a few days.

[@ghogsten]

I listen to Keith Obermann podcast, he’s been here for me for years. Still trust him, unlike the MSNBC morning crew. Obermann is rich and not a sell out. Thanks Keith.

[@Linda-lf3rj]

Mika and Joe broke my heart. I watched them every morning except on the weekends (reruns) and some mornings all four hours. I was watching when they announced they had gone to see Trump. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It made me physically ill. I haven't watched them since.

[@carolyneasley8980]

I love them both, but 20 million a year??? For 20 million Rachel Should at least change blazers.

[@rhondakoenig6452]

I could never watch again

[@rhondakoenig6452]

@@carolyneasley8980find more on you tube and podcasts, not regular media…learned lots

[@serendipityshopnyc]

@@carolyneasley8980 Rachel Maddow's very plain dark wardrobe with no jewelry or hairstyle changes is a deliberate choice to not distract from her storytelling. I for one respect that.

[@SherryStaggs-nb1xx]

@@serendipityshopnyc Agree

[@Shakie_Lou]

I love you Jen. I always feel better after I listen to you 💙

[@lynnkurland6828]

I totally agree. Love Jen love her honesty and need her commentary to get through the day.

[@jamesberrang1783]

Me too.

[@qrissy3742]

Jen Rubin, you’re a national treasure. ❤️

[@matttorrence2900]

Wow, that might be the biggest overstatement of all time.

[@bernardcwalsh]

@@matttorrence2900I think the comment was a troll

[@ramhaven2322]

You realize she was a Bushie? Correct. She was all in on the Iraq war

[@qrissy3742]

@@matttorrence2900 lol 😂

[@qrissy3742]

@@bernardcwalsh I meant it at the time, but I do see the error of my ways now.

[@roncenti]

OMG! You are so right. MSNBC was reshuffling the same 3 things all day long with different hosts saying the same thing with the same guests and the same answers. I had it on all day. It was mu background noise. I started listening when Nicole was on and I was looking forward to Rachel and Lawrence but that is it. I completely went full cold turkey after the election. Election night and then turned off and never went back in. Apparently so did many of us. I am starting to slowly (now that I can think about politics again without stomach pain and nausea) build my own MSNBC with Yall's KZbin channels. I have now 3 people in my rotation. All pleasant and not panicky. I will add more and I don't have to suffer through the same 3 stories without control. Adding Jen, you have such a pleasant voice and calming and just wonderful. I can take bad news with that voice. Thank you.

[@JennNoteman]

You’re right! I have no stomach for Morning Joe since the election. When I heard that they went down to kiss his ring, I was just baffled. And frankly hurt. I want to hear about how to survive the next 4 years. How to fight against what’s coming. Not about learning how to have a dialog with a demigod. 🤢

[@davidgradwell8830]

I literally get up Way Too Early--before the birds--and have MSNBC on in the background as I have breakfast and do my morning routine before setting out for work. This week, I've been boycotting MSNBC in the morning in favor of alternatives--like Jen Rubin! Mind you, I still like Ari, Joy, Rachel, Katie, Stephanie, and Lawrence--but I am frankly sickened by Mika and Joe obeying in advance, as they shamefully did. They showed their true color--yellow--and I have lost patience with them. Hopefully, they'll soon find their true audience--over at FOX--and free up that red-eye MSNBC timeslot for real journalists and progressives.

[@alexandrawallner8814]

I totally agree with you, Jen! I get my news from you, Mary Trump, JImmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Lawrence O'Donnell, Joy Reid, John Oliver... I still like Jim Acosta on CNN. So disappointed at Anderson Cooper, Kaitlin Collins, Jake Tapper. I thought these CNN people were reliable but it's become evident that being rich and famous is more important. May the Universe save us!!!!!! Thanks again, Jen!!!!!

[@joelangford7601]

Everyone of the people you say you get your news from is a regular on MSNBC, except for Colbert. So I don't see how you are agreeing with Jen.

[@erikjohnson2889]

I'm seeing a lot of media folks already normalizing and capitulating. Again. Thank you, Ms. Rubin.

[@jannibal9273]

They're fools. It won't save them, but it will create millions of viewers who now - dare I say it - hate their guts.

[@CantankerousDave]

Normalizing and self-censoring.

[@barrymoore4470]

Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg have already debased themselves to curry Trump's favor. Two of the richest men in the world behaving like spineless cowards.

[@susan4488]

HOORAY! 🎉 Another Jen Gem Podcast! I sit still and savor her every word and wonderful facial expressions. Thanks oodles exquisitedly brilliant Jen Rubin! BRAVO! 👏✊️🫶

[@jamesberrang1783]

That face! Priceless

[@BobBenson-qz8lp]

Jen sort of misled me. I was convinced, because of Jen's podcast that Harris was going to win. We were all manipulated and let down by democrats, but how did trump get so many votes to win? How did america still trust this criminal narcisist? I don't understand that part. He was horrible with covid, Couldn't deal with an emergency in america, was incompetent, destroyed our economy that obama built up so well,no wall built so the immigration situation was bullsh8t with trump. Now our economy has recovered from trumps last days in office , yet they want him back in. A crazy unhinged narcisist criminal who is basically a stupid guy. I don't understand whats wrong with those 10 million people that made the difference.

[@frankfuentes7209]

I have PTSD post election. I have stopped watching the news since the election. Deeply disappointed in Joe and Mika.

[@AndreaTruelsen]

The problem I see with MSNBC and the others disappearing, is that will only leave Fox “News” for people to get their information. That’s disastrous. Oh, and I totally agree with you about Joe & Mika. When I found out they went to bend the knee, j will never watch them ever again.

[@EarlyRiser71]

You think MSNBC was a counter to Fox? That's your first mistake!

[@paulrom446]

They're all basically subsidiaries of Fox! They only look Left Leaning It's like an Airlines Holding Corporation that has 3 or 4 different branded Airlines with different routings and paint schemes but they basically are wholly owned by the same Holdings Corporation! Basically a very crafty illusion of sorts!

[@jannibal9273]

People will continue to watch Fox, but Fox won't gain the viewers of MSNBC. They'll come totally online, I think, and find new homes where they will get valid information based on facts and not BS like Fox dishes out daily. Why do you think Rubert Murdoch is so P.O'd. at Donny boy. When Fox is the only outlet let on cable, along with what - Newsmax (who watches that anyway), people are going to get bored as hell because Fox won't have anybody to rant against in the form of network media. As for Morning Joe, the show slit its own throat willingly. I am pretty sure that some of the other panel members though, were absolutely blind-sided by what Joe and Mika did, totally betrayed them and everything the show USED TO STAND FOR.

[@canvasjockey4628]

I think the point is that there are much better news resources than the 24/7 cable news network. ProPublica is probably my new go-to, pure journalism... and no paywall. I'm going to start donating to them as a non-profit, independent news source (not beholden to any corporate overlord/billionaire). I've already found some local independent non-profit news orgs that I am supporting. I'd gladly give the $$ I used to send to WaPo and NYT to these sources.

[@718mohawk]

That’s what we needed them to be but they failed miserably. And Joe and Mika will never be viewed the same way again by most of us.

[@anneridsdalemott2013]

Followed your advice and got ProPublica. I also sent a donation. I am Canadian and know the world needs a better informed US electorate.

[@TheTeamDavey]

Hi Jen, stay truthful, and you are spot on about John Oliver. I almost choked when I heard Joe & Mika describe their capitulation visit to M-a-L. Mika, she of “know your value fame”, has just crapped all over that set of values. And to claim this visit was similar to diplomatic engagements of her father …. disgraceful, he’s got to be spinning like a top in his grave. Keith Olbermann has been proved right in his assessment of Joe S.

[@gabriellegibbons9236]

I think Mika(of little knowledge) thought this up. I hope she “knows her value” now.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

I support them for looking forward. We can pretend we didn't lose, or we can find a new way forward. Mika and Joe are smart and they will do what they need to providing news commentaries for us.

[@gabriellegibbons9236]

@Marty_Wanlass I support nothing that they do.

[@jg3094]

Thank you for being here for us.

[@steveaitch729]

Rachel and Lawrence are the only reason I watch MSNBC. It's off-topic, but I want to hear some progressive talk radio programming to counter the RIGHT WING bs that permeates the airwaves.

[@johndettling1835]

Imagine being military servicemen and women who risk their lives for our freedoms and you see two wealthy media personalities/journalists critical of Trump afraid of being hassled by Trump kiss his ring in hopes of avoiding harassment. Not a profile in courage.

[@carolbanish4250]

I agree except military only watch FOX. Its a shame but true

[@barrymoore4470]

So many Republicans (most in fact) have shown profiles in cowardice in the Trump era.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

So just what "nefarious" deal did they make with Trump. They went to talk to him. Listen to what they say. They wanted him to listen to them also. He doesn't get many Dems talking to him. They might have opened up a better path in some way. Give them a chance.

[@barrymoore4470]

@@Marty_Wanlass No, they're just sycophants. Scarborough was outright lying when he claimed people from all over the world were calling him to thank him for his wise, principled outreach to Trump.

[@Serena.Hope.Eternal]

Carol, I'm an Air Force veteran and I can tell you that as a service member we were not given an option to watch anything other than right wing media in public areas on base. When people eat in the cafeteria on base, everyone is forced to listen to and watch right wing media. This routinely put me in a great deal of emotional distress and adversely affected my digestion. I assure you, the powers that be could not have cared less. And I'll have you know that this Childless Cat Lady voted for Kamala Harris, Tim Walz and Colin Allred. And furthermore, no way do I believe that Cancun Ted won legitimately. There is a staggering amount of corruption in Texas! Do you remember when nearly 60 Texas Democrats flew to DC in the hope of obtaining help from the federal government to combat the additional Republican vote suppression bills that the Republicans were trying to push through? To my knowledge, nothing ever came from that visit. That is worth repeating. We, Democrat Texans, have not received help from the federal government regarding the voting suppression going on here in Texas. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding people have of thinking we voted for this disaster of a clown. It never ceases to dismay me that so many people lump large groups of other people together. Not all veterans voted the same. Not all Texans voted the same. Not all women voted the same. Do you see what I'm saying? Carol, please know and understand that No Way In Hell will I watch right wing media. This white, female, veteran, childless cat lady, Democrat Texan voted for Humanity. I voted blue all the way! Now I will admit that I was dismayed that I had to skip some voting options because there were some Republicans that were running unopposed for many offices. So that meant I had to skip and not vote for that office. That was truly disheartening. Decent people with a heart and conscience need to be running for every election ~ from the school board to the White House!

[@shannongay7360]

Just so very grateful for you and the Meidas Mighty keeping us sane! LegalAF too!!!

[@MaryBethSmith-lq9qf]

@@shannongay7360 Agree!!!!!

[@ronie1337]

R.I.P. M&J

[@johncraig86]

They are done!

[@SlimKeith11]

No, I don't want to see them go in peace. Let them feel accountability for their hypocrisy.

[@INFJparadox]

Thoughts and prayers . . .

[@frankptarney1141]

Jen! You tell the unvarnished truth! Keep up the great work!💥

[@CaoimhinOMaol]

I drifted away from MSNBC over the last 18-20 years until the only program I would follow consistently was ‘The Last Word w/ Lawrence O’Donnell. Very insightful, he didn’t follow the rest of the crowd at the network…until this summer. Then it became a part of the Harris campaign. I didn’t appreciate MSNBC management kicking out Keith Olberman or the late Ed Schultz. Nor Medhi Hassan’s treatment. Replacing them with Rev. Al Sharpton, Joy Reid, Stephanie Ruhle. MorningJoe with the same cast of characters that acted as mirrors of the same viewpoints. And why exactly is Danny Deutsch on MorningJoe…that’s a real headscrather. Time to shake off the old.

[@LinnieBee1709]

I watch a wide variety of cable news and podcasts - I realize way too much political coverage to hold onto my sanity for much longer. This way-too-long Trump era is taking a toll on my mental health. Yesterday I hit a breaking point and pared my list way down. Decided to continue to watch Lawrence O'Donnell because he has such an insightful, and most of all calming, effect.

[@CaoimhinOMaol]

@@LinnieBee1709 I stopped watching Mr. O'Donnell each evening after the Dem convention, but I might start with' The Last Word' again. I am in full agreement with you on his insights. When the rest of the MSNBC crowd would run after the bone thrown down by the events of the day, he manages to not follow the same talking points , but finds something else. Mr. O'Donnell respects his audience.

[@Thomas-z1y6s]

💙💙They slapped all of their loyal viewers in face. If they loose their show they deserve it. There are both millionaires, so guys just go away! I really like what you have to say. Keep it up.

[@juliecarmichael6692]

Jen..you are spot on…I wish the rest of the MSNBC contributors made as much sense as you. Thank you…I’ll be looking for you wherever you broadcast.

[@christinahumphrey9143]

They are cowards

[@robertcronin3617]

Bye bye joe and Mika. You are cowards and I don't follow cowards.

[@bibigems]

I always tune into your channel. You, Jen Rubin, are one smart cookie.

[@marylandria]

Bless you, Jennifer Rubin. Keep the faith. Keep speaking out.

[@jamesberrang1783]

Yes!!!

[@jamesberrang1783]

Yes!!!

[@MSK-jd5fi]

I appreciate you, Jen. You don’t mince words and you speak the truth. I am one who has not watched MSNBC since the election. It’s been so painful that I’m avoiding a lot of left wing KZbin channels too at least for now. But a few channels don’t get my trauma response triggered. MSM did so much sane washing that trump looked like just the other candidate and not the danger to democracy that he was.

[@johnmilovich2195]

Let's face it, we vomited up Trump with the help of the media, which is only interested in traffic and ratings.

[@mikef-gi2dg]

Oh you got that 100000% correct. Trump in 2025 will deliver top dumpster fire ratings EVERY SINGLE DAY, HE IS DOING IT ALREADY, AND HE HASN'T TAKEN THE OATH THAT HE WILL IGNORE YET. He is great for TV news.

[@WilliamKienzle-k1z]

Thanks, Jen. I love hearing from you and reading your columns.

[@Mary-us8jb]

Jen, I am thrilled to no end hearing you mention legacy media and cable MSNBC and let's not forget CNN that can't figure out what's going on other than personal opinions. I got bored with MSNBC a few years ago because of the repetition from the afternoon into the night lineup. Listen to the 1st afternoon show then get up and do something else. CNN I stopped listening to back in the mid-late 90's when I realized that what I was listening were people's personal opinions, that's not news. Mika and her hubby did themselves no favors by going to Florida. They seemed frightened Monday am when I listened to their lame excuses.

[@susanzoff6236]

I’m grateful for your perspective 🕊️

[@Calypso-22]

As usual your points are spot on Jennifer. Thank you. As for Joe and Mika - their betrayal hits hard, regardless of motives. We all spent YEARS trying to understand magas, sympathize and relate to, find common ground with blah blah. Reasonable discourse is not possible with wholly unreasonable people. They’re done for a lot of us.

[@BeverlyLounsbury]

Jenn it was sad day for most of their viewers I got up early they sold their viewers out done

[@karenbachar5253]

I stopped watching all corporate media the morning of Nov 6 (except for the BBC) and feel so much better. Also I will not say his name again and choose to be proactive in how I heal and move forward.

[@JudyGreen-mo5py]

Jen our world is much better thanks to you!! Fabulous podcast. It's so great to hear truth!!!

[@franciscoabreu135]

You've hit the nail dead center! ❤

[@lenmorgan5824]

I think you were the first one to call Joe and Mika out. Bravo to you. ❤

[@babysis6.059]

I used to like Joe and Mika, even though I hated the way he talks over everybody, now I don't want to hear anything they have to say, they betrayed us

[@FiredUpFeminist]

And it takes him 10 minutes to evaluate and then re-evaluate his point. Joe thinks he’s a slick orator. He is not.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

If you want to take that approach, go for it. I am impressed that they had the wherewithal to go talk to Trump. We all know them, they took ideas and gave them to Trump. He may even listen to them. They have courage to act on their convictions. If we don't understand, then maybe opening our minds and listening, might help.

[@bsrk3170]

I quit watching when “Know your Value” Mika married her boss. Added bonus-don’t have to hear Joe’s “when I was in Congress” stories.

[@raymondjoseph8040]

You are spot on!!

[@BeverlyLounsbury]

Rachel maddow worth every penny as is Lawrence ODonnell

[@LizR3n]

This!

[@gwchestnu1]

Joy reid

[@miekewiskie3039]

Nicole

[@Mtnsunshine]

Nicole Wallace is very good.

[@bethhollingshead8876]

And Chris Hayes!

[@LauraKM58]

I would have supported Mika & Joe had they conducted an interview with the President-Elect. Unfortunately, their “meeting” which likely included pleasantries along with lunch demonstrates a lack of transparency and accountability.

[@Marty_Wanlass]

This is stupid. You have no idea what was said, what suggestions they gave Trump. You nor me, have any idea what was said. How many Dems have the courage to even talk to Trump? He needs to hear from our side also.

[@sustainableanne]

But that was not there job. They're not diplomats, they're tv hosts and they committed the biggest sin, they ignored their audience

[@Tipperary757]

They were probably exploring media options for themselves in Trump echo chamber.

[@frankporterfield8121]

No more Joe and Mika for me.

[@MAC19523456]

I used to watch "Morning joe." No more. They gaslighted us. I feel bad for the other commentators on their show. I'm sure they're scratching their heads.

[@suzylux]

love yr ideas Jen. You're an important voice and perspective.

[@Wrensan]

Thank you Jen 💙❤️

[@Timoeltejano]

We made the mistake of tuning in to Morning Joe on Monday to hear Joe and Mika grovel at the feat of Orange Julius Caesar. We were so nauseated that we are no longer going to be watching them. I'm not even politically minded but I enjoyed their seeming resistance to all things Trump. This turned my stomach. And ditto on the Onion purchasing Infowars. My partner watching CNN and MSNBC all day. while I learn more from podcasts like Meidas touch, Jen Rubin, Hawk and Daily show. Amazing how much never comes out on Cable news. So much missing from their reporting.

[@mysticsrosaries3261]

Love you, Jen. Thanks for the dose of calm sanity!!

[@jannibal9273]

If you want a real dose in sanity and delivered calmly 3 to 4 times a day, please check out "Beau of the Fifth Column." The analysis is clear and right to the point, they don't call names, they just report facts and explain background information when necessary such, as for instance, with the intercontinental missile that Russia fired into Ukraine a few days ago. And they do it all in 4 to 6 minutes or so, they don't ramble on and one for 20 minutes or show any videos whatsoever of stuff we've already seen elsewhere. Worth watching, you get accurate info there.

[@tomstilz6252]

You’ve hit the nail on the head Jen. Haven’t watched MSNBC since the election. Good luck Lawrence, the cable news platform is sinking. Save yourself!

[@NancyMarzano-c2s]

Thank God for Jen Rubin.

[@LimitlessThinker]

You are absolutely right! It's been repetitive. I will never watch Morning Joe again, after what they did. The news networks have become everything you said.

[@martinbusler7416]

They will probably show up on Fox soon. Stay tuned.

[@RandeeHalladay]

I wanted to say all the things you said about the spineless Mika and Joe but I don't have educated words, I just want to use swear words with great emphasis. Thank you Jen Rubin.

[@shellz-ts6td]

Thank you Jen for your truth telling.

[@GLN14659]

Youre right! I havent watched Msnbc since the election. Why should i? Havent watched CBS, ABC in years. I cherry pick my news on YT thru independent podcasts etc and much more satisfied. Now provide free lite internet for everyone so they can choose also and see the difference. It was painful to hear mika and joe went back on bended knee. Gross!

[@williamturnier9032]

Jen, you are the best! ❤

[@joeminella5315]

Thank you very much, Jen! 👍👍👍👍👍

[@joeleonard8624]

I’m so glad to Jen Rubin!

[@donnajones2199]

Jen, thanks for your candor. Have subscribed via KZbin.

[@hosiethurmond9164]

Thank you for your courage and honesty!

[@jhanes3791]

I never watched them because Mika can't put two sentences together without stammering and Joe was just rude and obnoxious. They get what they deserve.

[@jannibal9273]

You got that backwards. It's actually Joe who is stammering - badly - for the past 3-4 months especially it has gotten quite noticeable. Before the disastrous visit of them to Mar a Lago to kiss the dirty diaper, I was wondering if Joe was developing or has already been diagnosed with some sort of brain issue that is causing the stammering - and WAY worse than President Biden's "stammer" ever was.

[@boffo63]

Lol That's why they ended up together.

[@BobBenson-qz8lp]

THey all got it wrong, including Jen!!!! Jen convinced me and I told all my friends and family they're crazy to think trump can win. Don't believe the trump winning polls, Its manipulated, but that wasnt true. Polls were pretty accurate this time. Half of them showed trump was going to get re elected.

[@ZmarleneZ]

thanks Jen❤

[@noreenconstantine4612]

I like Rachel Maddow because she often has special features that she researches herself. Plus, she's always serious and I've been a very serious person since childhood. People used to think that was odd

[@Johnny-tt8zc]

And now they're crying that people are canceling them. FAFO

[@INFJparadox]

I was wondering about that--whether they realize that their little stunt caused them a big chunk of viewers. I would love to see their ratings now

[@literacyyoga]

Thanks, Jen… you are a voice of reason.