Why Spain wants Britain to return Gibraltar (But will they?)

[@PoliticswithPaint]

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[@jorgec.a3123]

You forgot the most recent and biggest issue, Gibraltar has no territorial waters and in spite of this the police from Gibraltar and the British navy keep getting in the way of the Spanish police and Spanish navy, with 2 British nuclear submarines having caused problems in recent years. One of those submarines impacted a fishing vessel by accident. Also royal Marines once used the Spanish flag for target practice.

[@rosslange1757]

Gibraltar very clearly has territorial waters and are recognised as having so by the international community. Why would you think otherwise?

[@jorgec.a3123]

@@rosslange1757 It does not have any territorial waters as per the treaty of Utrecht and Spain doesn't recognize that they do. They are interfering with our police and navy in our own territorial waters

[@rosslange1757]

Is Spain part of the UN and does it abide by its conventions? I think it does.

[@jorgec.a3123]

@@rosslange1757 Yeah Spain is a member of the UN and abide by UN conventions, but Gibraltar has no territorial waters and Spain doesn't recognize them. If you wanna get the UN involved, when will the UK finally decolonize Gibraltar? When will Gibraltar stop being a hub for contraband and drug trafficking? When will Gibraltar respect Spanish immigration laws? When will Gibraltar let our police and navy perform their duties? When will Gibraltar stop being a nuisance to Spain?

[@AussiePersian]

I mean it’s hard to take the Spanish seriously when they have very similar enclaves in North Africa that they absolutely refuse to negotiate on.

[@Zeta-l4w]

yup, never gave it back to us

[@robr1032]

The main difference is that Ceuta and Melilla have been part of metropolitan Spain before than the modern concept of “Marocco” even existed. Britain took Gibraltar after the formation of Spain, and holds it practically as a colony

[@brandonlyon730]

@@robr1032 The Marinid dynasty would like a word with you.

[@b101uk9]

@@robr1032 the area known as Morocco has been ruled by the Alawi dynasty since 1631, Portugal never ceded Ceuta to Spain until 1668, and the Alawi dynasty have always been trying to get it back, so arguments over "metropolitan Spain" or "modern concept of “Marocco”" idiotic hot air, and the title Sultan of Morocco has existed since 1666.

[@Zeta-l4w]

@@robr1032 nope, moroco existed befor spain colonised it

[@adrianmunoz7646]

Fun fact: when the Olympics were on I used to always think the GBR acronym with the Union Jack was for Gibraltar. 😅

[@MichaelWerneburg]

When you were referring to shared jurisdiction I imagined you were going to highlight Andorra, which is on paper jointly governed by Spain and France. Thanks for posting this video!

[@MagicBrianTricks]

More similar to a personal union

[@sjeason]

I thought Andorra was technically its own principality which governed itself? Although I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s jointly owned sort of thing

[@MichaelWerneburg]

@@sjeason en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-princes_of_Andorra

[@someguy3766]

Not really a valid comparison, Andorra is an independent country that simply has two heads of state, one of whom is the President of France, the other is some Spanish Bishop. It is not a territory of Spain or France (or both). A better comparison would be some of the colonial condominiums that used to exist, such as those that were under joint UK-French sovereignty for example. Granted none of those exist anymore. Or Perhaps Egypt, which used to be under Ottoman sovereignty, but was administered by Britain.

[@salvadorromero9712]

As addressed in some replies here, this is completely false. Andorra is a constitutional democracy whose ceremonial heads of state are the Bishop of tiny Urgell, Spain, and the French head of state, currently its President Emmanuel Macron. Even originally when these two "co-princes" actually ruled there, it was still meaningfully distinguished from anything like being "governed by France." It was just another place where the same man happened to be king, and always would be. Andorra has nothing to do with the French government and never has. It is no more French than Australia is Jamaican. And with Spain there is even less connection. Pope Francis is closer to being in charge of Andorra than King Felipe is, and that's pretty distant! In fact temporal and spiritual powers of bishops, including the Pope and the head of the Knights of Malta, have always been much more distinct than most people realize. The bishop of Urgell is the only other bishop of any kind on earth left that has any temporal sovereignty. (Though the Knights of Malta head has a few of its qualities.) That is pretty cool, as well as the fact that the President of zealously republican France has always been royalty. (Until only a handful of years ago the people of Andorra also still paid in-kind tribute to their princes with a set number of hams, cheeses, chickens and goats, and so forth.) In practice the modern informal influence from France and Spain due to Andorra's size and location (it's almost a sort of high-end shopping mall, some only half joke) matter much more than the fact that their ceremonial princes happen to be from there. Almost nothing would change if they were a republic.

[@thehistoricalmapper4928]

You should do the conflict over the Russia Kuril island with Japan.

[@castlerock58]

Japan has no case. When the Japanese Emperor had absolute power, he renounced Japanese sovereignty over the Kurils at the end of WW II. His decision was law in Japan. Japan is now trying to undo the Emperor's order. A country can't give up sovereignty over a territory and then say they were just kidding and demand it back. Russia can't just say to the US that it made a mistake and wants Alaska back. If Japan ever attacked Russia, it would probably get nuked again. They should stop whining about it.

[@novedad4468]

Something interesting to mention, and often overlooked, is the neighbouring town of San Roque, whose oficial title is "donde reside la de Gibraltar", or in English, "where (the city) of Gibraltar resides". The original inhabitants of Gibraltar settled there when the English refused to return the city after the Spanish war of succession, and their descendants still live there to this day.

[@littleshep5502]

The UK didn't refuse to return anything, they were given gibraltar in exchange for them pulling out of the war

[@Finnbobjimbob]

Refused to return? They GAVE it to us in exchange for peace?

[@yeahokbuddy2510]

@@Finnbobjimbobso Spain wants it back. Spain gave it to you British since your military was strong and Spain was dealing with a lot of internal conflicts. Britain took advantage of this chaos and now that the times are stable it’s time to act like adults. Gibraltar is Spanish land historically and forever

[@Finnbobjimbob]

@@yeahokbuddy2510 Uhhhhh no?

[@rosslange1757]

I think you mean 'some' of the original inhabitants. Visit Gibraltar and you can certainly find people who trace their ancestry back to 1713 and before.

[@a4senal101]

12:30 The way you added ‘That is bloody lovely’ really got me

[@thetrooper9236]

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[@meritianus2076]

pero qué dices pinfloi

[@stargazer-elite]

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[@meritianus2076]

@@stargazer-elite Decolonise Puerto Rico first, and then we'll talk about "families"

[@stargazer-elite]

@@meritianus2076 I wasn’t talking to you

[@meritianus2076]

@@stargazer-elite lmao don't care

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

"The Rock"

[@stephennelmes4557]

Got back from a two week holiday in Gib yesterday. Drank enough beer to float a battle ship. Mad monk, Wembley bar, Skull, Aragon, Venture inn, Nelson, Quartedeck, all the bars in the watergardens and Ocean village. Back home now where I'm letting my liver have some time off. August is way too hot for me, try another month next year. Been in and out of Gib since 1980 with the RN and RFA ships and I love the place. ❤

[@Moai883]

the uk used galvinised steel,eco friendly veneers and bolts from auntie

[@twestgard2]

If exclaves are bad, North Africa would like a word with Spain.

[@jorgec.a3123]

It's not the same, not at all. To begin with Gibraltar is a recognized colony while Ceuta and Melilla are recognized Spanish land.

[@twestgard2]

@@jorgec.a3123 “recognized” in what way and by whom? Here’s what I recognize: Gibraltar is on the Iberian peninsula and is close to exactly one country: Spain. UK took it and is holding it expressly because it’s militarily useful. The neighboring countries recognize that they’re at a military disadvantage because having a foothold on land is a huge advantage in a war. Basically all the same things are true of the Spanish exclaves which are… where? Next to what country? These answers are not Spain. And yes, my own country the US has a list of the same or similar problems. I’d be a fool to try to defend those territorial possessions while criticizing others for the same behavior. Whether it’s Gibraltar or Melilla or Hawaii, these are all military threats to foreign countries, and that’s the type of “recognition” that matters.

[@jorgec.a3123]

@@twestgard2 Britain isn't a military threat to Spain dude, we are NATO allies and have quite a friendly relationship. What are you on about? You've only shown your utter ignorance about how the world works. Gibraltar is internationally recognized by the UN as a territory pending decolonization, aka a colony. Ceuta and Melilla are internationally recognized by the EU, UN and NATO as Spanish territories part of the country of Spain, they aren't exclaves and they aren't colonies. So maybe educate yourself before saying stupid things online, yes?

[@twestgard2]

@@jorgec.a3123 Or how about you do some learning. Usually Americans are the ones with no historical scope. NATO is only 74 years old; Britain took Gibraltar from Spain 319 years ago and for most of that time Spain and Britain have been starkly at odds. For that matter, Spain was literally still a fascist country run by an ally of Hitler and therefore not part of NATO until 1982, making your argument that Spain and Britain are longtime BFFs pretty absurd. Beyond that, the NATO treaty isn’t even an attempt to resolve these internal conflicts, all it does is freeze them in place. Every NATO country is still jockeying for position because everyone involved is perfectly aware that treaties come and go all the time, and nobody wants to be the defenseless fat grub on top when the protective cover comes off. And beyond that, Spain and the UK still engage in competition and it’s kept quiet because both sides benefit diplomatically by not having a public spat. That doesn’t mean they always get along. Other than that, lol, sure buddy.

[@jorgec.a3123]

@@twestgard2 you are seriously trying to lecture me about my own country? Typical American stupidity. Yeah buddy you lot of democracies left the Spanish republic alone during the civil war and thanks to that and American cooperation with Franco's regime we were under a dictatorship for 40 years , we've been a democracy for well over 50 years now and nobody said anything about Spain and UK being BFFs , I said that Spain is a NATO member and one of the lost relevant members of the EU on top of that we have good and friendly relationships with all of western Europe including the UK. So yeah again how about you educate yourself before saying such BS. We in Spain couldn't care less about Gibraltar by itself, what we care about is the fact that their police and the royal navy keep meddling in the matters of our police and navy that they don't respect our waters, that they keep.untergefing with the work of our police and navy, that they don't respect environmental laws that apply in the whole of their Mediterranean and we are the ones who have to do the cleaning up, that they are a tax safehaven, that they aid smugglers and drug dealers and a long list of offenses.

[@enriquecsmccourt]

Gibraltar is the tax haven, not of England, but of Spain. It is much better than Andorra, and in it there are thousands and thousands of companies of “Spanish capital”, which maintain all this scam. Otherwise, it is hard to understand how a town of thirty thousand inhabitants is capable of producing 2,600 million euros. After Luxembourg, it is the richest region of continental Europe, 82,000 euros per llanito. Go and see if it gives that impression.

[@louisurquhart9466]

i mean luxembergs gdp per capita is still way higher with those statistics

[@concor10]

The amusing thing is while yes its a problem that needs resolving. The current status quo serves all three goverments needs perfrectly. Spain doesnt need to staff and man a naval base in that area also no need to station significant naval units either, which means they save a ton of money, the gibraltans get rich of beening a tax haven and generally being left alone by everyone who isnt spanish or british,(its one of the only places the EU and UN tried and gave up finding a solution)(which is impressive in its self), the british get control of a major trade route, and a nice big rock in a perfect place to park warships to deal with the med. the other thing to note is spain does call on the RN thats based in gibralta when it needs help in dealing with dodgy ships passing the strait. which happens often. Usually if you see the patrols speed of from their berths its to confront a ship or deal with distress beacons. But personally im impressed that its apart of a arguement that both countries have been having for nearly 500 years. its literally worse than the rivalry of france and britian.

[@robertofulton]

It’s not really a problem that needs resolving though. 2 sides out of three consider the situation to be resolved…..thus it’s resolved.

[@aleksandersokal5279]

@@robertofulton It reminds me of that meme where a couple is hanging out and some rando asks "is there not someone you forgot to ask?" and Spain is acting like that guy a lot.

[@xergiok2322]

So why does it need resolving?

[@שמעוןאייזנברג-צ3כ]

Good video as always

[@LaVerdadeslaverdad]

What matters is what the people of those places want. Those in Melilla and Ceuta want to remain Spanish and the people of Gibraltar want to remain British. End of.

[@Ignore_this_channel]

When looking at Gibraltar (nice) and compare it to La Línea (slum) there is no wonder why the population wants to belong to UK.

[@MrColaKO]

La Línea is the result of a parasitic economy created by Gibraltar including tobacco and drug smuggling.

[@JorgeHernandez-ko5bb]

ignored

[@JorgeHernandez-ko5bb]

you mean the slums in Leed,s Manchester, Hull, etc? why are british pensionists / nomads going to Alicante instead of radiant full british Gibraltar?

[@CountScarlioni]

@@JorgeHernandez-ko5bb Because your economy is desperate for the tourist money. Spain is constantly trying to bribe in the British with endless UK ad campaigns and subsidised deals. Ever heard the phrase "never bite the hand that feeds you"?

[@SnorriTheLlama]

@@JorgeHernandez-ko5bbBecause they are cheaper and sunnier?

[@cyrusthegreat7030]

It should belong to the persian empire glory to Eranshahr.

[@NativeVsColonial]

What? From where did Persia came here? The Morocco may have some rights in Gibraltar, but Iran?

[@atrebuchet5267]

This is true it is clearly rightfully a part of the independent economic kingdom of anarchist Atlantis.@@NativeVsColonial

[@DaFroBroforeal]

I can see why all three sides stand where they do. I’m guessing things won’t change anytime soon either.

[@armondshakir3655]

No matter where you go THE CROWN WANTS ITS TAX

[@johnburns4017]

No border was defined in the treaty giving Gibraltar to Britain. Britain drew a line determining tbe border. Now there's one.

[@jorgeo4483]

Gibraltar has never been giving to Britain only the right to use the port and constructions, nothing of course about new status, soberany, expansions, airport, military base, border, maritime space.

[@johnburns4017]

@@jorgeo4483 Article X of the Treaty of Utrecht gives Gibraltar to the British. Clear. ARTICLE X: _The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and_ *_he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever._* _But that abuses and frauds may be avoided by importing any kind of goods, the Catholic King wills, and takes it to be understood, that the above-named propriety be_ *_yielded to Great Britain without any territorial jurisdiction_* _and without any open communication by land with the country round about. Yet whereas the communication by sea with the coast of Spain may not at all times be safe or open, and thereby it may happen that the garrison and other inhabitants of Gibraltar may be brought to great straits; and as it is the intention of the Catholic King, only that fraudulent importations of goods should, as is above said, be hindered by an inland communications. it is therefore provided that in such cases it may be lawful to purchase, for ready money, in the neighbouring territories of Spain, provisions and other things necessary for the use of the garrison, the inhabitants, and the ships which lie in the harbour. But if any goods be found imported by Gibraltar, either by way of barter for purchasing provisions, or under any other pretence, the same shall be confiscated, and complaint being made thereof, those persons who have acted contrary to the faith of this treaty, shall be severely punished. And Her Britannic Majesty, at the request of the Catholic King, does consent and agree, that no leave shall be given under any pretence whatsoever, either to Jews or Moors, to reside or have their dwellings in the said town of Gibraltar; and that no refuge or shelter shall be allowed to any Moorish ships of war in the harbour of the said town, whereby the communication between Spain and Ceuta may be obstructed, or the coasts of Spain be infested by the excursions of the Moors. But whereas treaties of friendship and a liberty and intercourse of commerce are between the British and certain territories situated on the coast of Africa, it is always to be understood, that the British subjects cannot refuse the Moors and their ships entry into the port of Gibraltar purely upon the account of merchandising. Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain does further promise, that the free exercise of their religion shall be indulged to the Roman Catholic inhabitants of the aforesaid town. And in case it shall hereafter seem meet to the Crown of Great Britain to grant , sell or by any means to alienate therefrom the propriety of the said town of Gibraltar, it is hereby agreed and concluded that the preference of having the sale shall always be given to the Crown of Spain before any others._

[@johnburns4017]

The same terms were used when Britain handed over Florida to Spain. .

[@jorgeo4483]

​@@johnburns4017 And that was the reason to heroically recover it again. You cannot leave anything valuable in your hands, you throw it off the balconies.

[@leniedor733]

At the end, Gibraltar es español, as from the treat once is finished or UK decide to return it.

[@EnriqueScottish]

Realistically you can’t compare Spanish Northern African enclaves with Gibraltar. Ceuta & Mellila plus another handful of isles, were handed over to the Spanish crown after the Portuguese had no natural successor of their crown & territories. Having read about this, it seems once Portugal reinstated their monarchy around mid 1600s, Ceuta & Melilla because they had been Spanish cities with fully rights since late 1400’s then chose to remain Spanish and rejected their chance to go back to the Portuguese crown. Bare in mind Morroco is a modern country, that surged after colonialism ended in Africa, so no actual country that still is one nowadays, has the historical right to reclaim both enclaves & isles. Now in the other hand, Gibraltar was conquered and kept by the British, taking advantage of a weak Spanish crown and army at the time. So Spain, historically speaking, does have a right to reclaim this territory. Now, if you go and search for the different treaties made between Spain & Britain, you can see Britain have not kept their word and have expanded their territory without agreeing it with Spain, we’ve even built an airport in “No mans land”. This has literally added more unnecessary tension between the parts. I just think if Britain kept their word at the time, Spain wouldn’t complain about it and things could be way more natural. Maybe even a shared territory between the countries. End of the day, thousands of British people like myself live here in Spain for retirement also thousands of Spanish work in the UK too. Conclusion, us normal people, Spanish and British do get along well and do cooperate.

[@weeguy52]

"Gentlemen, welcome to the rock" - John Patrick Mason

[@HankD13]

It all comes down to the Gibraltarians - when THEY want to a part of Spain, it will be a part of Spain. Self Determination is a fundamental UN principle.

[@simpson168168]

Clearly it’s belong to the glorious Arstotka.

[@FroddeB]

Spain won't even talk about Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera, which is uninhabited. 3 enclaves in Morocco and we are to believe that Gibraltar is the problem. I think it's a modern problem, Spain needs the extra revenue Gibraltar has however what they typically don't understand is that Gibraltar is only doing so well because it's not a part of Spain.

[@TheEggmaniac]

I dont understand why Spain would expect Gibraltar to be given to Spain. Especially since Spain signed a treaty with Britain that ceded it to them in perpetuity in 1713 (the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713). Even though it was a long time ago doesnt mean its not valid. Lots of borders have been created and agreed upon in the past between lots of different countries. You wouldnt expect another country, to say well actually we want the land that used to be ours, 300 years ago, back. Just about every country in Europe and probably large parts of the world could say we should go back to the way the borders were drawn up hundreds of years ago. We would like this part of land back again. Maybe Austria could ask for South Tyrol back, which has been part of Italy, since the end of the first world war, back from the Italians. Maybe France could ask for territories they lost to Luxembourg, after the 1815 Congress of Vienna. Germany could ask for parts of former East Prussia back ,that now make Poland and the Baltic states. The list goes on and on. Apart from this the people of Gibraltar voted in a referendum in 2002 by 98% to stay with Britain.

[@jameswilkinson9964]

you had me with 'The Rock'

[@stevens1041]

My Spanish friends told me, if UK really wants to do something impressive, it should give Gibraltar to Portugal. That would make them very happy, trust me.

[@VictorLdVS]

They can't, they can only give it back to Spain

[@aloxpeexd302]

A a spanish i prefer even germany or USA with the control of gibraltar than the uk

[@VictorLdVS]

@@aloxpeexd302 Ni de coña hermano, Estados Unidos es lo peor que le ha pasado a España

[@littleshep5502]

​@@VictorLdVSthey could, if gibraltar so wanted. Gibraltar could also fully integrate into the UK, or declare independence

[@VictorLdVS]

@@littleshep5502 They can't, in the treaty of Utrecht it was stipulated that Gibraltar could be only a British colony and that in the event that this rule was not respected, the rock had to be immediately ceded to Spain.

[@anthonyreright2519]

tough its ours and the people agree

[@GrassyHills202]

Spain also has its Gibraltar in the form of Ceuta and Melilla + some other territories EDIT: This is a small correlation , I thought to put in just for fun since those cities are in a somewhat similar situation as in Gibraltar. EDIT: why is this a war zone?

[@hugino3535]

Spanish territories by 600 years given by portugal as a gift

[@Lacteagalaxia]

Inept about U.N Gibraltar is a DECOLONIZED territory nothing says Ceuta of Melilla .

[@hugomartinez2387]

they are literally not the same

[@hugino3535]

@@Lacteagalaxia There is nothing more colonized in europe as that peninsula, you kicked the main population and put british people on it, ceuta and melilla have been spanish territories since medieval times and the city was built by spaniards themselves, inept about history m8

[@houbertcanitio2199]

@@hugino3535 Not true Ceuta and Melilla were originally settled and colonized by the Portuguese "Under King John I's son, Duarte, the colony at Ceuta rapidly became a drain on the Portuguese treasury" "Melilla was initially jointly administered by the House of Medina Sidonia and the Crown,[23] and a 1498 settlement forced the former to station a 700-men garrison in Melilla and forced the latter to provide the city with a number of maravedíes and wheat fanegas"

[@MyLittleMagneton]

"give back" lol, it's been British for longer than it's been Spanish.

[@user-cm9pt8bo3l]

False

[@KazeHorse]

@@user-cm9pt8bo3lall evidence says it’s true.

[@user-cm9pt8bo3l]

@@KazeHorse Hahahahahaha! Get a History Book.

[@KazeHorse]

@@user-cm9pt8bo3l “the Spanish were mopped by the British so badly that they lost a strategic piece of land for over 300 years despite only having been a country for 250 years. They never did stop crying about it.” - history book.

[@user-cm9pt8bo3l]

@@KazeHorse Hahahahahahahaha!

[@mirola73]

The answer is already known before anyone asks the question. They signed it over way back, next. As someone else said, Spain has an enclave in N. Africa which they will not debate with Morocco. Hypocritical ? You decide. The vast, vast majority of people in Gibraltar do not want to be part of Spain. Also, the Catalan region was playing with the idea of independence, that was pretty quickly quelled. Democracy, but only when it suits me.

[@Pebble_Collector]

Was that Dave at the end?

[@BlueEye-bb2ub]

British should not return Gibraltar to Spanish Spanish should return Ceuta and Melilla to Morocco free Catalonia 🇬🇧

[@oscarpena7285]

Free Scotland Free Wales, Free the whole Ireland and Free Isle of Man

[@KazeHorse]

@@oscarpena7285they are free. So free that you can go and check the latest snp vote numbers and you are free to have a little cry about it 😂

[@SarahConnor618]

Much like a bmw in the balkans 😂

[@Aariz981]

В конце концов, это зависит от жителей Гибралтора: если они хотят остаться в Великобритании, тогда не должно быть проблем, нет смысла обострять что-то, чего можно легко избежать.

[@VeronQZ]

Это испанский, они не говорят ни на каком другом языке, единственная причина, по которой Великобритания хочет сохранить его, хотя бы ради прибыли, если бы он был бесполезен, Великобритания оставила бы его, как и все другие свои колонии.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

⁠@@VeronQZGibraltar speaks English. It doesn’t particularly profit the British to keep a small territory like Gibraltar except as a military base. It’s more valuable to the Gibraltarians themselves to maintain the relationship as they don’t have to pay for defence costs

[@baileygregory9192]

​@Bulga-121gu have you actually ever been to the rock or spoken to any of the vast majority speak English as a first language. I mean your not wrong when you say they speak Spanish too butthat is as a second language that they are fluent in. The vast majority of the island is pro british and against being part of britian and why would they want to be a part of a nation like spain

[@baileygregory9192]

​@Bulga-121gu have you actually ever been to the rock or spoken to any of the vast majority speak English as a first language. I mean your not wrong when you say they speak Spanish too butthat is as a second language that they are fluent in. The vast majority of the island is pro british and against being part of britian and why would they want to be a part of a nation like spain

[@baileygregory9192]

​@Bulga-121gu have you actually ever been to the rock or spoken to any of the vast majority speak English as a first language. I mean your not wrong when you say they speak Spanish too butthat is as a second language that they are fluent in. The vast majority of the island is pro british and against being part of britian and why would they want to be a part of a nation like spain

[@dee4doa]

What if Britain gives it to Portugal? LMAO

[@goncalo33]

As a Portuguese person, I appreciate that offer, but I would rather be given something less problematic, like a rusty Austin Metro with a leaky Hydragas system. Thank you.

[@markdowding5737]

Spain when talking about Gibraltar: "It's our territory! It was unlawfully ceded to Britain over 300 years ago and we want it back regardless of what the locals think Spain when talking to Olivença: "Doesn't matter if we are legally bound to return the territory to Portugal one day. The locals want to keep being part of Spain so we should prioritize their wishes"

[@adriancampos8640]

The treaty said Uruguay for Olivenza.

[@Potsgud]

​@@joaocosta3374your mum is based. Based in a brothel 😂

[@nosirve9458]

Spain was going to return Olivenca but Portugal attacked Uruguay. But yes, as a spaniard, if you really care so much why not.

[@RadarLeon]

Everyone forgets the 4th option a sovereign Gibraltar beholden to no nation, part of the eu with a treaty of gauarantee of protection from both the EU and Britian. BASICALLY, spanish/british monaco....

[@tedrash7402]

He says in video why independence its not likely

[@RadarLeon]

@@tedrash7402 oh I know I wrote my comment before that portion

[@user-cm9pt8bo3l]

There are only 2 options.

[@MENSA.lady2]

Gibraltar has been British for over 300 years and will stay British as long as the Gibraltarian population want it. Last time the were asked they voted over 99% to stay British.

[@Augusto9588]

Now do eastern Ukraine

[@Jaie55]

Exactly, as It should be. Greetings from Spain

[@idontknowofausername6231]

Bro the british kicked out and killed the spaniards living there at the time and put english people there, what do you think would happen?

[@decrulez]

@@idontknowofausername6231it’s going to blow your mind when you heard what the Spanish did to the Mayan’s. Spoilers they created Mexicans.

[@idontknowofausername6231]

@@decrulez you do know most of the gold stayed in the Americas and was invested there right? On the other hand, England literally massacred the natives while the spanish made families with them, most of the deaths being from diseases. Why do you think a lot of people on latin america are of indigenous descent, while basically none on the US or Canada are?

[@dreamingflurry2729]

You are quite delusional if you think the Brits will give up this vital piece of territory! Hell, they fought for the damn Falklands and for good reasons, too! If you have a large Navy and love to do some power-projection, you should have save anchorages around the world, this is what the Falklands and Gibraltar are! Not to metion that they could block an entrance to the mediteranian sea...that is POWER! So yeah, the Brits are more likely to create something like the Korean DMZ (so a mined and heavily guarded border, than give up something they've owned for 200+ years!

[@John-nc4bl]

Some people in the small island nation of Britain continue to drown themselves in nostalgia, are ‘poisoned’ with ‘colonial arrogance’ and ‘dreamy jingoism’.

[@Andy-yn6jl]

@@John-nc4bl , read his piece closely!. He was referring to the Brits as 'they', so I assume that he isn't British!!..

[@theoneandonlyartyom]

they are BRITISH islands and NO ONE ELSE CAN HAVE THEM

[@JorgeHernandez-ko5bb]

it was the american and the chileans that helped them. always calling their bigger friend to help them

[@FatheredPuma81]

And the best part is that because it's close to Spain and because Spain is the underdog the average person will demand that the United Kingdom should give it back.

[@arielp7582]

Spain complaining about part of its land being "stolen" and having foreigners brought into said land is rich.

[@VictorCharlesEvans]

Great Britain will never ever give up Gibraltar!!!!

[@lindokuhlehlatshwayo9215]

'Great' Britain lol

[@VictorCharlesEvans]

@@lindokuhlehlatshwayo9215 YES, YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!THE TORIES HAVE RUINED AND DESTORYED THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY!!!

[@lindokuhlehlatshwayo9215]

@@VictorCharlesEvans Great evil you mean🤔😂

[@seanjames6642]

So it’s fully British and has been British longer then Spanish. Good to know

[@yuvalmilrad1]

I don't get it... if the Brits don't want to give it, and the local population stands even stronger in that claim... what are the negotiations about? Spain cannot claim a land that was conquered and ruled by a completely different regime 3 centuries ago. I mean... there are so many cases of lands like these, that no one think of "giving back" (South Tyroll, Alzas, Kaliningrad, half of Belarus...the list goes on). If the people of Gibraltar wants to stay British there is no discussion here

[@anhidric1]

Spain doesn't want Gibraltar. What they want is UK to respect the Utrecht Treaty and stop anoying spanish forces in the waters surrounding Gibraltar and to return the airport ground and beyond which they steal from Spain in the last 100 years. But asking a thieve to give something back is always a lost battle.

[@Ibnfunk]

How about they trade for it with Ceuta and Melilla or the Canaries. The UK doesn't want Ceuta, Melilla, or the Canaries. It just wants all the ex-fascist spanish speaking countries to respect UK sovereignty and to stop annoying peaceful UK citizens.

[@anhidric1]

@@Ibnfunk One simple question, even for you: was the Gibraltar airport zone included in Utrecht Treaty?

[@anhidric1]

No answer? 😆

[@ekosh6266]

​@@Ibnfunk time for my daily meada mirando a la perfida albion. Seems like even nowadays, people living there are still equally idiotic

[@crazyduck156]

The treaty of Utrecht is superseded by modern international laws

[@Kanmeii]

As a Spanish person, any spaniard that actually knows about economy will know that Gibraltar being British is actually better than it being Spanish. Spanish people go there for work and since the UK is better economically speaking than Spain, it's benefitial. If Spain gets better economically than the UK (which I doubt) then things would start to be different.

[@quimera7012]

Como decirtelo, es como si me dijeras que un mosquito chupandote la sangre es bueno por que al mismo tiempo q te roba la sangre te mete un tranquilizante para que no la sientas... Que Gibraltar y los gibraltareños estan de bonanza economica? por supuesto, son un paraiso fiscal que no pagan impuestos, pero eso no significa que generen riqueza, mas bien empobrecen toda la zona de la bahia de Algeciras, q debido a la falta de control unitario maritimo, al desorbitado precio de los productos gibraltareños y a que se lleva toda la inversion, tiene deprimido a La línea y Algeciras, cuya poblacion en muchos casos se dedica al trapicheo o a la venta de drogas, asique no, no es que españa tenga que mejorar la economia por los gibraltareños, es que los gibraltareños hunden la economia de la zona por su situacion particular, asi que ahí va otro motivo para retomar un territorio que en toda su hsitoria nunc les ha pertenecido

[@user-cm9pt8bo3l]

It's exactly the other way around. According to all statistics, unemployment levels rise as towns get closer to Gibraltar. You have to go a dozen kilometers away to find a normalized economy. It's like a tumor.

[@Kanmeii]

@@user-cm9pt8bo3l Really? If that’s the case then my opinion on the matter would change.

[@Iason29]

i understand the spanish concerns that the british took up a little bit of land but other than that why do they even need gibraltar. also the population there aren't exactly spanish. Malaysia at independence for example had one of the greatest cities in the world under their control yet they kicked out Singapore since they realised the population there is not malay but chinese and that would cause great instability in the future.

[@caleidoscopio4770]

They aren't exactly Spanish? Have you ever seen them talking? 😂 Concern about a little land? The fuck are you talking about? If you think stealing land and waters from other countries is ok that's exactly the reason why the UK is so hated

[@damonsonnier34]

These two countries will be playing against each other in the Euro Cup Final.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Like Argentina, been British before Argentina existed …

[@gustavju4686]

This is different as Spain did exist already 😅

[@anthonybarwick2094]

Tell them to sad off

[@jasonoreilly2795]

For the handball you DEFINITELY ain't getting Gib back

[@uingaeoc3905]

Spain claimed when it joined the EU that it had NO territorial dispute with any EU member. Gibraltar has been a UK possession for longer than Spain.

[@test-201]

I am spanish, i have bulging black eyes like a spider ... i think the UK should not only have Gibraltar but they should also have argentina because of our failure in south america as a spanish person i have to admit that we sailed around the world creating third world countries while the UK only made first world countries because they are so much taller and better

[@wanderingartifact6087]

Mate we don’t want anymore land especially after the ottoman territories lmao

[@brianferguson7840]

If you want it back Manuel ? Try and take it back !😂😂😂

[@glr4764]

Sure, it would honestly be super easy. The English navy is a joke these days, the Spanish have more combat aircraft and US patriot batteries, Gibraltar is attached to the Spanish Mainland and England has to go AROUND all of Spain to reach Gibraltar. The F do you plan to break a Spanish siege of Gibraltar? They could take it without firing a shot so to speak. You think the English are going to be able to sail to or land in Gibraltar to supply against a Spanish military that ranks just below Ukraine, Israel, and Germany on most military indexes? If you do... wow English are really living in the past in a really sad and pathetic way. UK trying to hold on to Gibraltar would look more like what it looked like if the British tried to hold on to Hong Kong and not another Falklands war which was over an island 500 kms from Argentina.

[@Thegreatercheese]

The gist I'm getting from reading these comments is "it's only bad when Britain does it"

[@pablotheScot56]

When will Spain return the territories on the North African coast?

[@diegogonzalezpico7141]

Well UK ddnt accept the condiions for having that land. Which means tht they are not allowed to have it. While Spain didt do that

[@pablotheScot56]

@@diegogonzalezpico7141 ah diddums, Mr Colonial Occupier of land you have no right to occupy. You will never get Gibraltar back no matter how much crying you do. The Treaty was for perpetuity, which means forever.

[@nosirve9458]

Return ? To who? What country?

[@user-cm9pt8bo3l]

Are you moroccan?

[@pablotheScot56]

@@user-cm9pt8bo3l hilarious. Are you Spanish by any chance?

[@unclejoeoakland]

Spain has two chunks of north africa nearby which morocco claims as spain claims gibraltar. The indignant remonstrances are the product of the fact that Spain doesnt have a leg to stand on and they know it. Hence the complaints about colonization. I mean SPAIN. COMPLAINING ABOUT COLONIZATION.

[@markgladwell8927]

Nothing coming

[@namename3130]

What dispute?

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

The funny thing is Britain has owned it longer than Spain. I doubt Britain would ever give it up, it will be very important if another war ever kicks up. Spain is hardly a stable nation either, Britain has no trust in Spain

[@jamiemcmullen3647]

ur graphics with the faces look similar to a game i used to play

[@chethemerc7841]

Gives Britain control of the entrance of the med. It wont be given up.

[@nordrako16]

Although a debatible subject, there are very strong historical and cultural arguments to say Ceuta and Melilla are spanish. Britain, on the other hand, has never had any business with the region, it was just forcefully ceded and filled with english migrants.

[@alexkidnotlive]

Theyre definitely not getting it back now...

[@usamabhatti903]

Creating endless disputes is in the nature of the British colonisers and their successor , the Great US colonial empire. They made Israel on a land that belonged to Arabs and Palestinians from 700 AD, made Kashmir dispute between Pakistan and Europe, and Gibraltar belongs to Spain, it has always been a part of Spain, but yes no one can change the nature of these colonisers.

[@zigongosaurus5274]

Spain relinquished it in 1713 and Britain has by now owned it longer than Spain ever did. Also the Spanish was colonisers just as much as the British, including trying to invade England itself on multiple occasions. And failing. Every time.

[@garyyoung3179]

You seem to have forgotten Spain was one of the world's largest colonising powers itself, responsible for colonising most of the Americas as well as parts of Africa and Asia.

[@NigelHatcherN]

Israelites were in Israel since the bronze age. Palestine was never a nation, find it on a map. They are Jordanians and Gazans. Yasser Arafat came up with the name in the 60's. Pakistan and Europe have no conflict over Kashmir. Gibraltar wasn't always Spanish. It was also Greek and Moorish, we have had it longer than the Spanish.

[@gustavju4686]

​@@NigelHatcherNUh, nor was Jordan (was made in 1920)

[@ali20396]

If Gibraltar is Spanish, then Melilla and Ceuta are Moroccan .

[@hugomartinez2387]

NO? ITS LITERALLY SO DIFFERENT, CEUTA AND MELILLA HAVE BEEN SPANISH FOR 600 YEARS, 300 BEFOR EVEN MOROCCO WAS A COUNTRY, WHILE GIBRALTAR WAS A SPANISH LAND INVADED BY THE UK.

[@occam7382]

@@hugomartinez2387, Morocco has been a country since the 9th Century, when Britain and Spain weren't even ideas yet.

[@hugomartinez2387]

thats literally not true, its like saying italy was a country because roman empire existed b.c@@occam7382

[@Desco51]

​@@occam7382Visigoths already called themselves hispanics, pork fanatic

[@occam7382]

@@Desco51, that would've been in reference to the Roman region of Hispania, which the Visigoths conquered and settled. The modern idea of Spain came from the merger of the Kingdoms of Castille-Leon and Aragon, neither of which existed when Morocco was founded. Also what the hell does pork fanatic mean?

[@tonyfrench1081]

Give me a break. Spain has two enclaves/colonies on the North African coast

[@Gemstone-o6l]

They are not colonies

[@nosirve9458]

Comparing Gibraltar to Ceuta and Melilla is pure ignorance. Anyone who does so is demonstrating ignorance. Why? First, Ceuta and Melilla are "territorios metropolitanos," meaning they are just like any other city in Spain. Ceuta was previously Portuguese before becoming Spanish, and Melilla was part of the Carthaginian Empire, the Roman Empire, Visigothic Hispania (now Spain), the Byzantine Empire, and lastly, the Muslim Empire. It was abandoned by its inhabitants and was reoccupied by Spain in 1497 after being found occupied by pirates. Ceuta and Melilla were part of Spain long before Morocco was officially formed in 1956. Even if we consider the earlier Baladi dynasty, which can be regarded as "old Morocco" and was established in 1666, Ceuta and Melilla had been part of Spain for over 200 years in that time. Historically, there is no justification to argue that Ceuta and Melilla are part of Morocco or that they are colonies. I hope this helps clarify the key differences between Gibraltar, a colony, and the Spanish metropolitan towns, Ceuta and Melilla, and why the UN considers Gibraltar a colony but not the other two. If anyone still disagrees, I strongly encourage them to read more about it. Cheers.

[@RedXlV]

@@nosirve9458 That's the exact same argument that Portugal used when they didn't want to relinquish Goa, Angola, Mozambique, and Guinea. Saying they were "províncias ultramarinas", no different from any other province of Portugal. Also, Portugal having invaded and colonized Ceuta before giving it to Spain of it does not make Spain's claim any stronger.

[@nosirve9458]

@@RedXlV that were considered colonies. The same way the Sahara was considered a colonie and thats why Spain returned the territories. Marocco didnt exist when Ceuta and Melilla were created. It just didn’t. Its imposible to return something to a country that didn’t exist. They key differences are quite easy to see. Even the UN and the european union can see it, for a reason they said multiple times that Gibraltar needs to be descolonised.

[@RedXlV]

@@nosirve9458 Morocco existed before Spain did.

[@johnmasters-w5l]

as soon as Spain gives back nary isles to Morocco , we can think about it lol good for the goose ,good for the gander

[@IAmTheStig32]

It's legally speaking a self-governing territory. It is up to the Gibraltans themselves if they want to be a part of Spain or not, if the answer is no then I'm sorry but Spain must respect that. This isn't the 1700's anymore.

[@aloxpeexd302]

We do the majority of the spanish and our goverment dont care that much the problem is that the brits dont respect our borders is one of the focals points of smuglin and corruption of our country, the majority of the people want to stop being disrepected by gibraltar and his agresive police of expanding their border and waters, that by the treaty of utrech is illegal. And more than one incident of envirometnal damage have been provoked by the british in the area, a thing that as you will gues dont make a lot of friends with the locals. As i say if you want to be a neigbour at least be a good one, the real problem and the majority of our complains is about the behaviour of the brits.

[@VictorLdVS]

So we are asking the colonizers if they want to continue colonizing. Ole tus huevos, campeón

[@natenae8635]

@@VictorLdVS😂😂 They are the natives, what is Spain gonna do mass deportation? The only way that this territory will become Spanish without an agreement will be by disregarding any sense of Democratic protocol or via War Crimes.

[@VictorLdVS]

@@natenae8635 They are the natives? What else? The white Australians are the natives and the Aboriginals are the colonizers? How old are you? What's your IQ? And don't worry, there are many ways to kick the brutish out of Gibraltar.

[@johnbox271]

Spain give us Gibraltar. Morocco give us Melilla. The government of Morocco has repeatedly called for Spain to transfer the sovereignty of Ceuta and Melilla... drawing comparisons with Spain's territorial claim to Gibraltar. In both cases, the national governments and local populations of the disputed territories reject these claims by a large majority.

[@benjamin2305]

Spain complaining about British occupation of Gibraltar while Spain still occupies 3 enclaves on the Moroccan coast, that the Moroccans want gone, is laughable

[@renatab8293]

...because everyone knows two wrongs make a right? When you are finished laughing so much you might want to look up some examples of classic logical fallacies.

[@benjamin2305]

@@renatab8293 that wooshing sound going over your head is you missing the point. It's not that two wrongs make a right, it would be closer to saying that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I don't give two rats' asses about who owns/occupies Gibraltar, but I have Moroccan friends that are unhappy that Spain, a colonizing power, still occupies several areas of Morocco. I was commenting on the hypocrisy of Spain calling the occupation of Gibraltar part of colonization while it still occupies these areas.

[@renatab8293]

@@benjamin2305 Oh, of course, I forgot, Spain is the country where all the hypocrites are from. People in glass houses, of course!

[@diegogonzalezpico7141]

​@@benjamin2305Spain doesnt ave colones. The land was given to Spain by the goverment who controled it centuries ago, without conditions. UK recived GIB ith some condiions. UK expanded and reuse to accept the conditions while ignore how mafias use that place for drug traffiking, which affecg negatively to spanish people. Meanwhile, Morocco claims the land as they claim Occidental Saharaxand some regions from Argelia. Morocco it the most imperialist country i the actual days.

[@benjamin2305]

@@diegogonzalezpico7141lol, areas they took by force where "given" to Spain.

[@Herr.Kaiser]

In the Utretch treaty it said cesion of properties in Gibraltar but not Gibraltar itself

[@tomr200199]

* *Ceuta enters the chat*

[@johnhealy4443]

Went last year, not impressed. I would give it back... Thanks.

[@daddy_1453]

Funny how the Spanish complain about Gibraltar... when the Spanish have colonies in Africa. They own bits of rock next to Morocco. The gall of these people lol

[@VictorLdVS]

It's not the same situation

[@daddy_1453]

​@@VictorLdVS Double standards lol

[@VictorLdVS]

@@daddy_1453 It's not double standards, if you knew anything about the history of Ceuta and Melilla you would comprehend why it's not the same.

[@xabitron]

@xabitron hace 1 segundo they were spanish from the start morocco wasn't there at any time so they are rightfully spanis. gibrartal WAs spanish and the the brits stole it

[@nosirve9458]

the colonies were returned to Morocco. Ceuta and Melilla were never colonies. Read a little, ignorant.

[@Partyrockscool]

Dude the BMW in the Balkans killed me

[@FOXMAN09]

I knew i wasnt crazy in thinking it was weird how many BMWs I saw in the Balkans lol

[@wayneinman1254]

Tell em to fuck off

[@TaliyahP]

Spain: "Nooooo you can't have a peninsula off my territory" Also Spain: "Shut up Morrocco, those are integral parts of Spain"

[@toasts3054]

The problem is that you see a small piece of land and you immediately think it's stolen or something. Ceuta and Melilla have been spanish in all kinds of terms for longer than the existence of Morrocco as a country. How can you claim what's never been yours in first place?

[@toasts3054]

@@Red-90 Morrocoy was created in 1956 following my western sources. I don't know what they teach you in a Moroccan school

[@toasts3054]

@@Red-90 also, you can't just use the word "delusional" every time someone says something you disagree with

[@Y.E.O.S]

@@toasts3054 💀

[@joshuafrimpong244]

@@toasts3054 thats cap

[@markaxworthy2508]

I never knew Gibraltar has been British longer than it was Spanish!

[@pedritopedrito_]

Eso ni siquiera es verdad

[@michaelmccomb2594]

@@pedritopedrito_how long was it Spanish?

[@SuperJibulus]

@@pedritopedrito_disprove it then

[@MrColaKO]

It was part of the Kingdom of Granada before, an integral part of Spain.

[@michaelmccomb2594]

@@MrColaKO the Kingdom of Granada was founded in what year? Around 1500?

[@FatFerret511]

“Much like a BMW in the Balkans” 🤣

[@RaulPerez-v2y]

It will come back to us. Once uk becomes completely Muslim and 💩, what is happening. You pirates

[@History-and-stuff]

Oh my gosh, it’s the rock!

[@eastgermanballguy332]

da rok :O

[@nikolozgilles]

**Vine boom**

[@albertomunoyerro5562]

Best spanish rock

[@thejoelfromjonkoping]

I hate that you added that in

[@snazzydares8787]

@@albertomunoyerro5562shouldn’t have singed it away then in 1713

[@ronaldderooij1774]

It seems that Dutch diplomacy failed. They helped conquer Gibraltar, organised a peace conference in Utrecht, and came out empty handed. Great work.

[@mrflibble9783]

It was agreed the Dutch could annex Gelderland which was occupied by France. Which probobly seemed a bigger win that the rock at the time.

[@DwynNWynns]

The Dutch don't get swallow up by a combine Frence/Spanish Empire. It is a good power play. Dutch can't hold Gibraltar anyway but England as a Allies controlling a key choke point is leverage in itself.

[@rrwholloway]

Continued existence isn’t what I would call ‘empty handed’.

[@VFella]

@@mrflibble9783 Had we known at that time, we would have preferred the rock. At least the simians there are semi-intelligent.

[@WilliamHall-l8v]

They gained a powerful ally who gave gareentee of independence plus I believe it was the first free trade agreement ever made between both countries and back then to get a free trade agreement with UK was better than any land why the Dutch managed to gain overseas territory due to the strong alliance they had with the British

[@mattwilliams3456]

Demanding negotiations is pointless when the end goals are so diametrically opposed and one side has little leverage. They can have weekly meetings and nothing would happen. Spain will only be happy when they begin to gain control, and Britain has no reason to concede any. It’s an exercise in futility until something alters that balance.

[@andmos1001]

Well at the very least, the dispute has remained peaceful for a long period.

[@ekothesilent9456]

Like if Spain gave an ultimatum regarding their NATO status. If Spain left NATO Gibraltar would lose much of its strategic value anyway, it might be a worthwhile, if not, diplomatically damaging gambit.

[@ekothesilent9456]

Like if Spain gave an ultimatum regarding their NATO status. If Spain left NATO Gibraltar would lose much of its strategic value anyway, it might be a worthwhile, if not, diplomatically damaging gambit.

[@Kervath]

@@ekothesilent9456 ... If Spain left NATO Gibraltar would gain tremendous strategic value.

[@lindseyg9666]

the Gibraltar population have had referendums and they wish to remain as a British protectorate.

[@makaveli2tt]

Very interesting piece of history. Thanks for sharing

[@ordinal2361]

"At least my vehicles in War Thunder are safe" For now m8

[@Kabutoes]

USA: “how come we don’t have Gibraltar?” USA 2: “we have Gibraltar at home” Gibraltar: *Guantamono Bay*

[@occam7382]

USA: "Ohhhhh, right. I forgot we had that."

[@LuisCarlos-cs3zq]

In reality, the United States does recognize that territory as part of Cuba, which refuses to abandon it and terminate the lease contract.

[@augustuslunasol10thapostle]

Guantanamo bay is cuban territory leased by the US

[@indian-tech-support]

Nope you are just really crap tenants

[@RedXlV]

@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Leased against Cuba's will, that is.

[@johnborland6954]

I've visited Gibraltar, an amazing place, nothing about it other than the weather is spanish. Its feels very British, it was very odd walking across the border one minute I'm in Spain the next I'm seeing British Police, union Jack's, Boots the chemist, Morrisons, signs in English, old school London Buses, 3 pin electrical plugs, British war memorials. British Saliors. Its England with a slightly mediterranean twist. The will of the people of Gibraltar must be respected.

[@MrYahboo]

That may be how it appears to visitors but the Gibraltarians are neither British or Spanish in character although they have more in common with Spanish people than Brits, I would say and Spanish (or 'Llanito') is the preferred language, for sure.

[@martinrye712]

​@MrYahboo what a load of utter nonsense

[@johnborland6954]

​@@MrYahboomaybe you are right about their culture, but the people of Gibraltar want to be aligned with the UK not Spain.

[@MrYahboo]

@@johnborland6954 absolutely. I'm not saying any different.

[@metaphysicalfuck]

​@@johnborland6954you may be right, but history repeats itself and the UK only cares about Gibraltar for the strategic control. Their people are not a concern at least politically

[@Jin-Ro]

As a Brit I think the UK should claim all the land north of Gibraltar, it's clearly part of Gibraltar, and whoever lives there would have a hard time disagreeing with that view point. Spain belongs to the UK.

[@sophiefrancis8295]

@jesusbermudez6775Pa! We don’t just want planet Earth but the whole universe too! Every planet should be British!

[@Englander284]

​@jesusbermudez6775the world would be far greater if ruled by the British

[@ChrisCrossClash]

@@sophiefrancis8295Britain should definitely own the whole universe in that case 😂

[@shzarmai]

agreed, British Armada when??

[@stuartriddell2461]

Only one universe? What if there are other universes? 😀

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

How do you define "resolving" the issue? Because as far as the British (including the Gebraltarians) are concerned, it's been resolved for over 300 years. What has Britain or the people who live in Gibraltar got to gain from any of these negotiations? To stop Spain constantly complaining? Somehow I don't think that's worth it.

[@jabato9779]

It is not resolved from the Spanish point of view, as Northern Ireland is not resolved for many Irish. UK is an expert in planting the seeds of discord across the globe: Gibraltar, Northern Ireland, Israel-Palestine, Pakistan-India, Iraq-Kuwait, Rhodesia, South Africa, Falklands, etc, etc, etc.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

@@jabato9779 The Spanish seem to define "resolved" as "Gibraltar is handed over to Spain"... But that is contrary to the British position and would again leave the matter unresolved. Ergo there can be no "resolution" when there are only 2 real options and the 2 sides are diametrically opposed. Now as the as the Penisnular is currently British, has been British for longer than it's been Spanish and the residents identify as British, what good would it do discussing the matter any further? And as you mention it, it's even more clear cut on the matter of the Falklands. Other than a brief 10-week spell in 1982, the islands have never been Argentinian. And Argentina claiming land to which belonged to someone else first, of which the inhabitants have made it quite clear they don't want to be Argentinian, all under the guise of "decolonisation" is rather hypocritical.... Not to mention their own colonialisation of regions such as Patagonia.

[@jabato9779]

@@sergarlantyrell7847 Time of possession is absolutely a bogus, invalid and arbitrary argument. Same could be applied to Ukraine under the Russian empire and many other cases. Reasons behind that possession is what should be discerned.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

@@jabato9779 So all borders that were decided by wars throughout history are invalid? We're going to need to redraw the entirety of Europe then! Personally, I'm looking forward to getting Normandy etc. (that the French stole in the 100 years war) back! And if Ukraine had been part of the Russian empire/federation for the past 300 years AND that was backed up by free elections showing they very much wanted to be Russian, then we'd probably all consider it part of Russia. But the Ukrainians have emphatically proved that they don't want to be Russian.

[@zigongosaurus5274]

​@jabato9779 Okay well here's the "reason" behind the possession of several British territoties: Gibraltar - Ceded by Spain in perpetuity following a successful capture of the territory and the failure of the Spanish to siege it back Northern Ireland - Remained part of the UK to bring an end to the Irish Civil War Falklands - Has had British people on it longer than Argentina has been on any map, successfully defended in 1982

[@suburbanCyclist6]

I’ve never been so interested in buying war thunder than when you told me it could distract me from the British colonizing my house

[@GrassyHills202]

I could certainly use that! ''HEY JIMMY IT TIME FOR MURICA!!!!!''

[@tomirk4404]

First time?

[@ConanSoo]

It’s ok, they usually give it back, eventually

[@Twirlyhead]

Britain's European Union (at the time) and NATO allies, Spain, cheered Argentina through the Falklands War on what can only be seen as racial grounds. Still disgusts me to think of that.

[@fabiosobrin6648]

Las malvinas son Argentinas 🇦🇷

[@4ebees]

@@fabiosobrin6648 I can't seen an Argentine flag over the Islands they never owned. Neither can the people who live there. In fact, you really ought to keep up. What next? The Beagle Islands are yours?

[@fabiosobrin6648]

@@4ebees The Malvinas, as well as Gibraltar, were originally owned by their respective countries, which then some pirates/ organized bandits took. You are in no way lecturing someone on rightfully ownership of land. But it is quite ok👌 Time put everything back in their place, as we shall soon will see for example, with Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@sutixela]

@@fabiosobrin6648 Exacto 🇪🇸 🇦🇷

[@zigongosaurus5274]

​@fabiosobrin6648 Gibraltar has passed hands several times throughout history and ended up in the hands of the British in 1704 and was permanently ceded in 1713. The Falklands have been claimed by England, and later Britain, since 1594, were formally possessed in 1690 and settled in 1765. Argentina didn't even exist until 1816. Scotland made the union and agreed to a once in a lifetime referendum in which they voted to stay in said union. Learn history before you sound like a moron.

[@kevinbrown5737]

Tell the Diego's to stuff it up their Jacksee

[@MrYahboo]

Very first line... "...known for its great food..." Where's the 'great food' in Gib? I'd love to know, given that I work there.

[@asdrattyler1906]

Compared to British food it's divine 🤣🤣🤣

[@MrColaKO]

I missed a minute in the video talking about Gibraltar's behavior. Gibraltar has been a tax haven, a paradise for smugglers, drug and arms dealers. It houses thousand of offshore companies and hosts lots of online gambling businesses. It also regularly spills from refueling ships. People living in Gibraltar have become very wealthy due to these advantages and their existance sucks potential from their surrounding Spanish area. I wouldn't care less about sovereignty, but I would love Gibraltar to be an integral part of the UK inside the Single Market like Northern Ireland so there could be no check points between Gibraltar and Spain, with free movement and no shady activities being performed in The Rock. But Gibraltarians would never allow for it because their wealth comes from remaining a tax haven.

[@FriedrichBarb]

Never heard of something more incorrect/outdated in my life, you still speak as if its the 1960s-1990s, Police technology has progressed to a point where these are no longer issues, and if you think there isnt more smuggling across the rest of South Spain then thats laughable. Any serious crime is nearly non-existent in Gibraltar As for Tax haven, Andorra is also a Spanish tax haven, I dont see the surrounding economy affected, likewise with Switzerland or Luxembourg, so is generally a excuse and skill issue for La Linea

[@joefer5360]

@@FriedrichBarb Lmao. Look at the Gibraltar resident defending their criminal racket.

[@FriedrichBarb]

@@joefer5360 Im serious usually I enjoy political arguements, but in this case youre just 100% saying lies that you have 0 idea about, I was born and raised in Gibraltar and there is a gigantic middle class who make the majority who do not participate or even see any criminality of the sorts mentioned above whatsoever. Andorra is also a tax haven and it does not affect surrounding areas, the Spanish dont critique it because its a Spanish microstate

[@JM-iq5up]

@MrColaKO , I am from Gibraltar , and at one point in time smuggling was prevalent , but one thing that you should come to realise is that there is high unemployment rates in La Línea , and the smuggling has fed families on both sides of the border for decades ! Smuggling initially started with commodities such as sugar when the border closed and then tobacco once the border was opened. With regards to your comments on drug dealers , possibly there are some, I won’t disagree, but maybe if you took a walk down London or puerto Banus in Marbella on a Friday or Saturday evening you might come to realise that drugs are an issue that plague most countries on the planet, in fact , most drugs are smuggled into Gibraltar ! As Gibraltar is so small it is hard for organised crime groups to have large quantities of drugs stored in Gibraltar, as law enforcement agencies would snuff them out rather quickly … your comment on arms dealers is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion , maybe you could evidence this claim somehow ? I agree with your comment about the offshore betting companies and the bunkering , but then again there is a massive oil refinery just across the straight of Gibraltar and a large port. (Apart from Valencia this is where a lot of narcotics enter Europe .. there are plenty of articles with regards to this point online). Gibraltar generates funds within the surrounding area due to tourism, hence, the new hotels/rentals opening on the Spanish side of the border. Looking forward to your response ! :)

[@FriedrichBarb]

@@JM-iq5up ​ You make many good points that are true and I agree with. The main point I feel youre missing though is that this comment was purely from one of the few Spanish Nationalists that hate Gibraltar and Llanitos, that use this part of our past as propaganda to lie and claim that *the vast majority* of our economy is from only crime, which is just total bs obviously and puts a very ugly bad reputation for Gibraltar. Its a part of our History that we should be ashamed of or at least not proud, but youre right when you say its an international issue.

[@radoslavhandzhiev6977]

Great video! I will never shut up about how awesome and magnificent of a place Gibraltar is!

[@milmo_thefurry]

ty! - a furry from gibraltar

[@EduardoSanchez-ls5te]

Una mierda de roca que ojalá algún día vuele por los aires.

[@heptaniko7090]

Seeing comments of the Anglos giving their poor opinion about why Gibraltar should be British and having the balls of compare it to Ceuta and Melilla makes me seriously question his intellectual level, It seems that the lack of sun, the dental care, and the emerging new caliphate in UK is leaving consequences there hahaha

[@zigongosaurus5274]

Seeing comments of Spaniards saying why they should own Gibraltar even though they signed a treaty 311 years ago explicitly stating Britain would own it FOREVER makes me seriously question their intellectual level. Maybe the immense skill issue Spain has had since 1806 is leaving consequences hahaha

[@heptaniko7090]

@@zigongosaurus5274at least you try to reply, but not even far bro

[@asullivan4047]

Spain is a washed up imperialist nation. Has been for (250)years. British laid claim & re established that region. Spain only had territory taken from it. Never shared with another nation. Now they want to whine about the loss-!!!

[@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373]

​@@heptaniko7090 the Deigos want Gib because it reminds them of all their defeats and loss of empire at the hands of Anglo Saxons

[@joepopplewell680]

If you had an actual retort you would've commented that.

[@bishal-max]

Rule Britannia 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@Dani-Nani]

One of the pressing issues between Spain and Gibraltar are the waters aroudn the rock. Spain says the Utrech treaty only allowed the land of Gibraltar, never the waters that surround it. This is even a greater issue when Gibraltar laws allows for things foribidden by Spain or the EU, like the refueling of ships between them on the sea instead of refuiling at a port. This allow for murky oil of unkwon origin to be transfered between tanquers and ships, with the highly risk of spill over. In fact a few months ago one of this refueling at sea practices spilt A LOT of oil into the sea that affected mostly spanish beaches and waters. This obiously infuriated Spain as they are getting poluted by a neighbor that doesn't give a fuck about it

[@adamlakeman7240]

So Spain is a colossal hypocrite considering the staggering environmental damage its fishing fleet famously do in British waters where they laugh off the concept of a "closed season" and swarm nesting grounds the moment British ships leave? Got it.

[@t.wcharles2171]

However the treaty is overruled by the international law of the Sea in which no country or territory may have a 'dry coast' and thus Gibraltar by law must have territorial water.

[@littleshep5502]

However, due to UNCLOS, Gibraltar has territorial waters, with the UN overruling the treaty of Utrecht. Same reason why gibraltar could become independent should it so desire

[@jorgec.a3123]

​@@t.wcharles2171But Gibraltar doesn't have any territorial waters or airspace, it's all Spanish

[@littleshep5502]

@@jorgec.a3123 Gibraltar has both its own airspace, and three miles of territorial waters, both confirmed by the UN