Polls are Killing Old School Runescape

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Idyl

Idyl

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Old School Runescape has a polling problem, and it has for over 10 years. I read EVERY. SINGLE. POLL RESULT. in an effort to find why, and figure out how to fix them.
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In this video, we delve into the world of OSRS polls, shedding light on their significance, uncovering the problems that arise, and tracing their fascinating history. Join us on this captivating journey through the polls that shape the game we all love.
Are polls actually preventing OSRS from turning in to Runescape 3? How have changes to polls shaped the world of Gielnor as we know it today? I literally go into all of that please watch the video jeez.
00:00 Intro
4:03 The beginning
9:52 Polls go stinky
14:25 The 'Yes' Era
18:12 How to Fix Polls

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@franbecares420
@franbecares420 11 ай бұрын
j1mmy has changed a lot with the years.
@onlydansx
@onlydansx 11 ай бұрын
LOL
@sav3498
@sav3498 11 ай бұрын
bruh i thought the man was going through chimo for a sec
@ethankankula5630
@ethankankula5630 11 ай бұрын
AHHHH AHAHAHAHHAHA
@StoneAndersonStudio
@StoneAndersonStudio 11 ай бұрын
He went bald!
@Zazazafggt
@Zazazafggt 11 ай бұрын
Poor jimmy, he’s not as peppy, bald and lost his beard :(
@mythcraft3445
@mythcraft3445 11 ай бұрын
as someone thats been around day 1, there was a reality check that led the no into the yes era, people realised that not only was 0 new content boring but it was also killing the game, and the only way to keep osrs alive was to start hitting yes to everything. so in the no era we voted with this in mind "do we need this thing? we dont need it? ah fuck it no" where in the yes era it was more like "does this thing sound terrible? not really i dont see the harm ah fuck it y not"
@shazetook8586
@shazetook8586 11 ай бұрын
exactly same
@PoorCoyotee
@PoorCoyotee 11 ай бұрын
True. I've played since classic and started OSRS pretty much as soon as it launched after having a break cuz EOC/RS3 was shit. I've played main, iron and currently got 2100 total group iron and I would NOT be here if there was no updates ever. I don't have to agree with everything new, theres stil the old methods of doing stuff, but to not have anything worth waiting would defo make me just quit. Whats the point of killing Bandos for 25,000th time?
@LightSilver7
@LightSilver7 11 ай бұрын
fax. voting yes for all the cool & or unneeded shit in the game. 😉
@lizard1255
@lizard1255 11 ай бұрын
@@PoorCoyoteeif there were no updates you wouldn't be killing bandos either. GWD wasn't in osrs when it released.
@PoorCoyotee
@PoorCoyotee 11 ай бұрын
@@lizard1255 well duhh, point stays. Cba to find out what was the last boss 07
@maniacmatt7340
@maniacmatt7340 11 ай бұрын
I trust this dev team more than i trust the community. That being said, I'm really not confident with every idea being put into the game still.
@zamorakbrews7228
@zamorakbrews7228 11 ай бұрын
most of the time they are correct in what they want to do, what they get to do is a different story
@michaelzyskowski2357
@michaelzyskowski2357 11 ай бұрын
woke dev team who can't deal with a fucking 120,000 vorkath bot running for years on end with BLACK DHIDE and without rigour go woke go broke, game dead, shit updates
@andrewmorris7394
@andrewmorris7394 11 ай бұрын
Do you trust the investment company that owns them and controls them though? As much as I get what Idyl is saying, I'm 90% sure this game would have been pay-to-win years ago if management knew they didn't have to pass a poll to do it.
@maniacmatt7340
@maniacmatt7340 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewmorris7394 that's the part they worries me the most about this game. Without some community intervention, osrs would have only lasted 6 months before being monetized to death, at my best guess lol.
@TheZeagon
@TheZeagon 11 ай бұрын
​@@maniacmatt7340I personally think the devs caved too much to their owners when they added legal p2w
@UndeadShadowHunter
@UndeadShadowHunter 11 ай бұрын
I don't think we should get rid of it entirely. The 70% though not perfect, does provide a counter stability. The bigger issue I think is that if we didn't have it and the game really started to go downhill, I think it will be really hard to get back if we need it.
@scottroiter
@scottroiter 11 ай бұрын
I do survey methodology for a living. All Jagex needs to do is remove the "no" option. Hope this helps!
@ianthompson31
@ianthompson31 11 ай бұрын
Is this because people are resistant to change?
@victorrenato835
@victorrenato835 11 ай бұрын
​@@ianthompson31they're os players lol, if its easy to new players it should not be lanced
@zilosis3794
@zilosis3794 11 ай бұрын
North Korea's lord high pollster, how do you do.
@TheCarpenterUnion
@TheCarpenterUnion 11 ай бұрын
Literally quit along with so many others because they kept "improving" things (at the pollsters' behest) and ignoring the real issues. If you cater to the most addicted player base, you're never going to attract new or casual players
@imperfectjoe9202
@imperfectjoe9202 11 ай бұрын
@@TheCarpenterUnionI mean I think they tried that with rs3 and that game needs a lifeline.
@RamiraX
@RamiraX 11 ай бұрын
Yup, every video is a cry for help. I'm convinced. I mean, I can't argue with the results, I love the videos, but your dedication to plough through literally every thing for the video you talk about for the sake of completeness is... admirable :). On a serious note: Great work, professional essay, great editing!
@rudyvela
@rudyvela 11 ай бұрын
My only complaint was not mentioning the partyhat poll which was literally the inverse of every other poll ever. Which was "DO you want us to NOT change how things were?"
@loganblackburn5236
@loganblackburn5236 11 ай бұрын
Ngl, I just lost my sh*t when he was describing the polling changes blog 😂 I love the comedy bits thrown into a serious subject so obviously close to his heart! Great video!
@TRY0N
@TRY0N 11 ай бұрын
the way you mix humor with information and good insights makes these videos so damn entertaining
@YltimateUIM
@YltimateUIM 11 ай бұрын
Hey its you
@gfyGoogle
@gfyGoogle 11 ай бұрын
It’s J1mmy’s style so you’d likely enjoy him too
@YltimateUIM
@YltimateUIM 11 ай бұрын
@Mac is that entirely true? Idyl and Jim have similarities but not at at all the same style. Besides being smashing young lads
@gfyGoogle
@gfyGoogle 11 ай бұрын
@@YltimateUIM Are you pulling my leg? This video is textbook near identical to the format of a J1mmy video. It's why so many commenters are poking fun at it. Honestly as a new viewer it's pretty distracting. Idyl should do his own thing.
@philaturers
@philaturers 11 ай бұрын
This is such a good video to watch when you want to learn what happened in the past with the polling system. Can you imagine doing SotE without moving your camera with the middle mouse button and without skipping dialogue with spacebar... I'm dying lmao
@CELINExDION
@CELINExDION 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are so good. I’m so happy to have found your channel - thank you for such great content.
@aeglen
@aeglen 10 ай бұрын
I agree some polls on tiny things are silly, but in general polls are essential to get Jagex to listen to feedback and make content right before release. The conversations they generate on Reddit etc are arguably one of their strongest benefits. Sure they could do it anyway but then there'd be massive community unrest.
@chincevideos923
@chincevideos923 11 ай бұрын
every vid you do pushes into a slightly unknown direction. its all so good, keep exploring ideas and pushing the content sphere further
@Furry_Wall
@Furry_Wall 11 ай бұрын
Polls have definitely done more good than bad, it has saved us from some pretty terrible stuff
@cyneelyte
@cyneelyte 11 ай бұрын
aside from sailing
@Ruutger
@Ruutger 11 ай бұрын
You still play this game?
@Ruutger
@Ruutger 11 ай бұрын
@@Reeces_Pieces Biased
@victorford5047
@victorford5047 11 ай бұрын
@@Reeces_Pieces Good, people telling "No" to new content is stupid.
@SolaireIntensifies
@SolaireIntensifies 11 ай бұрын
More videos like this please! I love when you just break down an aspect of the game and discuss it for 20 minutes. I live for this type of content!
@mezeip
@mezeip 11 ай бұрын
As someone who has played since 2013, the polling system has been the wildest ride. Absolute banger of a video
@oddballgametime
@oddballgametime 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate your way of going about this sort of stuff. You educate on the topic then give a great solution based off of previous successes in the game. Keeep the good shit coming dude
@sanguisugaboggie
@sanguisugaboggie 11 ай бұрын
Man, the way the slayer helm was introduced is so sad imo. I love the OG smoking kills quest, and it is forever lost to time. It isn’t the same on rs3
@vallytine
@vallytine 11 ай бұрын
Reminds me how Corp is in the game without the quest that introduces Corp. That should be inexcusable but it's kind of emblematic of the OSRS mindset of raw content over story content.
@thefakebriskeh
@thefakebriskeh 8 ай бұрын
​@@vallytine more like the story wasnt necessary and should be second to the content lol
@vallytine
@vallytine 8 ай бұрын
@@thefakebriskeh this is why we can't have nice things
@c4ke_rs
@c4ke_rs 11 ай бұрын
Can we officially call you budget jimmy now? For real though, keep up the great work man
@SpiderofDreams
@SpiderofDreams 11 ай бұрын
Quality as per usual keep making great videos Ty
@CorxyM8
@CorxyM8 11 ай бұрын
Polls are my fetish. Great video thank you Mr. Egghead.
@Nixxos
@Nixxos 11 ай бұрын
best rs content creator currently and no one can convince me otherwise
@Lotus_on_YT
@Lotus_on_YT 11 ай бұрын
Hey man, you've been putting out some good shit recently, including the agility course one. The format and humor style is fantastic. Keep it up, and seek medical attention. Also, polls are my fetish.
@TylerMcVeigh1
@TylerMcVeigh1 11 ай бұрын
The issue with polling is we, the players, are dumb. People in the "No Era" voted down resizable modes and being able to move the camera with the middle mouse while voting yes to NMZ. Now we vote anything into the game regardless of how good it is or how much info we get, like Muspah, and then get mad that the vague question majority of the community voted yes to isn't what we wanted.
@laindump911
@laindump911 11 ай бұрын
if mod mat k can still respect mod reach and be friends with him to this day, then to me he did nothing truly wrong jed on the otherhand...
@Disco.Wizard
@Disco.Wizard 11 ай бұрын
Idyl is right up there with my favourite funny Scapers, along with 9Rain and J1mmy
@brookie6969
@brookie6969 11 ай бұрын
i havent played rs in a couple years but i still love complaining about all the new casual players voting :)
@QuickdrawMcQuaw
@QuickdrawMcQuaw 11 ай бұрын
I must be in that weird in-between age of having started playing RS in 2004 and not being interested in Reddit. I've always voted based on what I think will improve the game. Even if it's just a little bit.
@peytonhorn2833
@peytonhorn2833 11 ай бұрын
Same man. I started 05 and have never even been on reddit
@Girvo747
@Girvo747 11 ай бұрын
Reddit’s “control” over this game is exaggerated. Most players are not on the subreddit. You’re the more common one :)
@MaxiemumKarnage
@MaxiemumKarnage 11 ай бұрын
@@Girvo747 Jagex literally only gets opinions from Reddit and Twitch chat, what?
@Girvo747
@Girvo747 9 ай бұрын
@@MaxiemumKarnage Wrong
@FD_Fan
@FD_Fan 11 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Best lunch time video in a hot minute
@TheCarpenterUnion
@TheCarpenterUnion 11 ай бұрын
9:00 in classic UK fashion, if at first you don't like the results, keep holding votes until you get your desired outcome 💀
@MaxiemumKarnage
@MaxiemumKarnage 11 ай бұрын
> 4th New Skill poll
@FancyLife
@FancyLife 11 ай бұрын
I think my biggest issue with polls is that Jagex asks questions with a specific outcome in mind. For example, in December we got "Should a new skill be added to the game", which effectively just asks players if they should get more content. It should have given options with where the content should come from, whether its a new skill, or its a new quests that expand the lore, new raids, new mid level bosses, new skilling methods or just updates to old skills, etc. The next poll then gives 3 options of skills, and then Jagex just ran with the winner of that poll. The two higher voted skills should have been polled against each other
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff 11 ай бұрын
If you are out there in world and you ever feel depressed, down on yourself, and/or not adequate enough. Just remember this: there are people out who voted yes to a new skill and there are people out there who voted for Sailing to be that new skill.
@groerhahn225
@groerhahn225 11 ай бұрын
@@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff Oh no new content! D:
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff 11 ай бұрын
@@groerhahn225 Yeah because so many people enjoy skilling on this game that we need another one.
@groerhahn225
@groerhahn225 11 ай бұрын
@@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff "Oh no new content". If you hate core gameplay mechanics, why do you even play the game?
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff
@LPlusRatioPlusFellOff 11 ай бұрын
@@groerhahn225 you clearly don't know much about osrs otherwise you'd know that there is more to do than just skilling. Last thing this game needs is another skill to lock other content behind
@danfelder8062
@danfelder8062 10 ай бұрын
As a game designer myself, I guaruntee you that during the "yes" era many ideas got added that would NOT have been added otherwise if it was just up to the devs. When you have a polling system like tht, if one designer on a team likes an idea that other members on the team see huge problems with - or know will take a LONG time to make that could be spent on more important and cool stuff for the game - it's often politically easier to say "well let's just put it up for the poll, if it gets voted down great we gave the idea a shot" instead of pushing back against the passionate designer's idea directly.
@mattstevenson1334
@mattstevenson1334 11 ай бұрын
The baldness is someone linked to the polls....it all makes sense now
@hk4124
@hk4124 11 ай бұрын
Sure, there are "more players than ever before" but I would LOVE to know how many of those players are really playing the game and not a bot or gold farmer.
@vandalboi253
@vandalboi253 11 ай бұрын
Actually obsessed with your channel after discovering you from your agility video. You’re Goated and underrated af.
@abadhaiku
@abadhaiku 11 ай бұрын
Eh, I think your solution would force bad ideas to go through. It might be better to implement the idea and then poll the suggested tweaks to said idea, since people don't know what something is like when it's only described and not experienced.
@vlim5601
@vlim5601 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, if an idea ends up TERRIBLE then Jagex can just roll it back. Better yet, let us vote to *remove* content like NMZ!
@ianthompson31
@ianthompson31 11 ай бұрын
I believe this is EXACTLY what led to RS3 and EoC which ruined the game. The developers should offer ideas, but also keep the community involved,. I think both are important.
@patigelstarberry4302
@patigelstarberry4302 11 ай бұрын
Opposed to what he said, for games like this, where the community will likely out age the original developers career, the players will eventually know better. I learned from Obsidian and Blizzard that the roster can change to a point where nobody who was responsible for the original success is left, leaving people who don't know what they are doing.
@blackops4906
@blackops4906 11 ай бұрын
Lots of good ideas on polling. I do disagree with the final point though, while the player base can make mistakes in what they want, they should be allowed to make those mistakes and they should continue to have final say in the ways that the game can change. Sometimes in order to get a true consensus on the better approach, you have to go the wrong way first and let the player base really see the implications of that decision. When the GE passed it was widely accepted, but only because the other more experimental idea was tried first and people saw how lacking it was, if the GE was just forced through it would have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, and while this approach is slow and temperamental I think that the morale of the player base is closely tied to the agency we all have in the decisions that get made. The devs might be the adults and we might be the children, but we have to be allowed to make our mistakes.
@JFish44
@JFish44 11 ай бұрын
They didn’t poll the removal of multi combat rev caves and that shit was my favorite what’s your thoughts on making poll’s mandatory? Locking accounts that don’t complete the poll. Polling system needs to be more convenient & more efficient. It’s current system is structured poorly and not working. Lock questions to people who don’t qualify the topic
@stonic4467
@stonic4467 8 ай бұрын
This right here, the best content of any mmo, the revs caves were removed. So many trash things were done to pkers by pve poll voters but the devs straight up said you cant have fun on this one. I have been searching for the rev caves experience in other mmos for years now and nothing compares =[ New worlds organised open world multi pvp has been doing it for me lately.
@tylerbreau4544
@tylerbreau4544 8 ай бұрын
@@stonic4467 I mean I didn't engage with rev caves and I don't recall if I even answered the rev cave-related polls. With that said... It is worth noting the RWT activities that were going on in the rev caves. There was also that scandal with 1 of the dev team mods some corruption that was related to the rev caves, no?
@Zaros262
@Zaros262 11 ай бұрын
Next sponsorship should be for whoever taught you those incredible timetravel transitions
@jpankkake9315
@jpankkake9315 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are long and yet, when they end, I’m left wanting more. Keep it up!
@BillNyeTheBountyGuy
@BillNyeTheBountyGuy 11 ай бұрын
I vote 'No' to this poll.
@LyrialEra
@LyrialEra 11 ай бұрын
Before I started playing runescape in 2019 I was a world of warships player and I watched those devs slowly destroy everything that made the game enjoyable to high level players by catering to casuals to the extreme. Coming to osrs where we have polls felt incredible and even though im mostly a yes voter its nice that they at atleast check in with us to see what we want from them, especially with the long form surveys they had around the beginning of skill proposals
@ShowMeTheMoneyShot
@ShowMeTheMoneyShot 11 ай бұрын
I think I started playing around 04-05, played for a while and then took probably 10 years off. Came back to OSRS and slowly started to notice the quality of life difference, now I couldn’t imagine the game without them. Sometimes the smallest changes can make a huge difference. Idk if I’ll ever fully quit the game
@queenfan6
@queenfan6 11 ай бұрын
Ideal that video informed about this game. I will give it a try and these polls you speak of because I'm now so informed!
@synysterdawn8913
@synysterdawn8913 10 ай бұрын
I also think any poll question that basically boils down to “Should we buff thing or release new strong thing?” is always stupid because a vast majority of people are going to vote yes for bigger numbers regardless of whether or not it’s actually good for the game. Granted, Jagex is the one designing the weapons to be polled, and you’d think THEY’D know better… oh well.
@Whatsacody
@Whatsacody 11 ай бұрын
TBH, the polling of the new prayer book is a good example of how bad the polling still is. It likely wouldn't pass now that it's gone through polled revisions. But we're in another "yes" era anyways.
@DelPlays
@DelPlays 10 ай бұрын
Welp, that wasn't such a good example after all..
@dutchtin
@dutchtin 11 ай бұрын
Lookin yolked bro, great video
@clubpenguincheate100
@clubpenguincheate100 11 ай бұрын
Only knew you as the cool plugin guy, but this video was so good. Subscribed, would love more videos like this! (poll are my fetish)
@j0rd0
@j0rd0 11 ай бұрын
@20:39 THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS. I couldn't agree more, and this had to be said. Keep it up Idyl!
@alexvidro2127
@alexvidro2127 11 ай бұрын
That NFG album is a classic. What else you have in the vault?
@freshairkaboom8171
@freshairkaboom8171 11 ай бұрын
I agree, instead of failing specific polls, I think there should be an option in priority polls to say "I want you to not change too much" and "I just want you to fix the game's broken aspects" for instance. Then Jagex can see what direction is most popular, and do the rest. Yes and no polling is almost always a bad idea. There's a reason direct democracies are bad and we elect representatives whose sole job it is to be informed about the polling.
@BlacPlague
@BlacPlague 11 ай бұрын
We still get polls for priority, though they are instead surveys we do out of the game. Like the recent game jam one.
@coolbarryo1852
@coolbarryo1852 11 ай бұрын
no one out here admitting that polls are their fetish smh
@621ngp
@621ngp 11 ай бұрын
I wasent expecting an Ad from where iv worked before in a runescape video lol
@ZAWAreal
@ZAWAreal 9 ай бұрын
stopped at 21:30, trusting the dev team is one thing but you can't trust the parent company and despite the troubles polls have caused outright removing them is just a mistake. The polls also exist to protect the old school team.
@SupaFly-gx1zo
@SupaFly-gx1zo 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, normally when people bring up the little "hey, subscribe" in their videos I file it into the "white noise" section of my brain and don't care, but you got a genuine chuckle out of me. You're an entertainer man, wear it with pride.
@livefastsailslow8293
@livefastsailslow8293 11 ай бұрын
All I could focus on during the ad was the plant
@cowboyclip
@cowboyclip 11 ай бұрын
Sick transitions bro
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
I’m probably going to highly disagree with this. Especially if you touch on unpolled updates. Polls have been the best thing and what kept the game good.
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
I did regret not getting divine shield, but I’m glad to pay that price for the community voting.
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
Jagex shows us every day that we can’t trust them. I know that’s hard to hear, but it’s the truth. Then letting us be apart of that process has truly kept them in check -the balancing changes that aren’t polled and shouldn’t have happened.
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
No one cares about the nmz issue. It’s not a reason to be upset about polls. Honestly, people who don’t want to train that way don’t, some do because they can save themselves personal time. I’m glad about how they handled it to stop the scamming.
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
And like you said, the good stuff made it anyways when there was a healthier player base.
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
I really liked old zeah and new, you’re not giving good reasons why polls are bad.
@Pimmyjage
@Pimmyjage 11 ай бұрын
Vote Idyl for president.
@joshpattersondarthmenno
@joshpattersondarthmenno 11 ай бұрын
I really love polling and it is my fetish. It’s about trust and that’s more important in an MMO and aid argue one or the biggest reasons why Osrs is actually one of if not the most popular mmo of all time and not declining like all of the others. It gives players a sense of ownership and belonging and like jagex actually cares about our thoughts and involvement in the process.
@Kngofkngs
@Kngofkngs 11 ай бұрын
8:45 “players”😂 Love the video as always, Idyl!
@Kngofkngs
@Kngofkngs 11 ай бұрын
Poles are my fetish.. (Edit: Polls*) . . . (Extra Edit: I was right the first time)
@R_T_D
@R_T_D 11 ай бұрын
I'd give anything to be able to play fresh OSRS in 2013 again
@KEKW-lc4xi
@KEKW-lc4xi 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the game has changed way too much imo. I started playing osrs slightly before CG being introduced and CG is awful content. But it is mandatory due to the bowfa being so good and all end game content is designed around the assumption that you at least have the bowfa. I could just not do end game content I suppose which would be a fair point but I would like to someday have bis gear but due to how much new pvm content they are adding and how drop rates work currently I don't think I ever will get bis. especially if they are releasing new raids every year or so. I quit clash of clans for a very similar reason. It took me forever to get to th 11 with maxed walls etc but then like year after year they just dumped new th levels on us which I couldn't even keep up with botting everyday lmao.
@blakeschwab7518
@blakeschwab7518 11 ай бұрын
this video was great, gonna check out the rest of your stuff, hoping its on a similar level
@BrokeCrayonOSRS
@BrokeCrayonOSRS 11 ай бұрын
I just found you and I’m loving the content.
@christophrcolon
@christophrcolon 8 ай бұрын
Just binged three of your videos and subscribed. Crazy that you don’t have more followers.
@vt8414
@vt8414 10 ай бұрын
Solid video with great editing. Subbed
@JTA146
@JTA146 11 ай бұрын
But that is how it starts.... one minute they are adding the cute little animals, and the next its EOC all over again.
@dr.rockzo7193
@dr.rockzo7193 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@BarkatheMoon
@BarkatheMoon 11 ай бұрын
Lmao the vsauce music drop
@austinl7265
@austinl7265 11 ай бұрын
Holy shit I remember the trading post. Crazy to believe that was 8-10 years ago where does the time go
@justin_krebs
@justin_krebs 11 ай бұрын
As a fellow bald RuneScape player, I have to say that God voted NO on whether you’d keep you hair into adulthood. Great channel, keep it up brother.
@hazmatt8349
@hazmatt8349 11 ай бұрын
Yo, does the carpet match the drapes tho?
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 10 ай бұрын
What I learned from this is that, just like in the real world, we should probably do ranked choice voting
@r8gg
@r8gg 11 ай бұрын
yep! their polls are awful! its just like a heyy we poll everything guys! super cool tradition we've had since the game came out we cant change it now! (they just release stuff anyway nowadays)
@gilian67
@gilian67 11 ай бұрын
I already loved the green screen talks from J1mmy and i love to see another rs creator do the same keep it up with the good work
@taatuu25
@taatuu25 11 ай бұрын
For a moment I was very confused about what happened to j1mmy's face
@zeemgeem
@zeemgeem 11 ай бұрын
​@@taatuu25makeover mage
@tankooni
@tankooni 11 ай бұрын
It's always a weird thing to see a college in my city that many of my coworkers went through being advertised in OSRS content lol
@wiseoldowl1628
@wiseoldowl1628 11 ай бұрын
Why do all those "no's" look like "yes"?? Like.. 76% yes and 24% no... how is that a no?
@itsnotwebby
@itsnotwebby 11 ай бұрын
I love that the sponsor of this video is my hometown college. Right on!
@DelPlays
@DelPlays 10 ай бұрын
As much as I also trust the current Dev team a lot, mistakes do still happen and it's great to have Jagex show trust in the community to have a say in it even if they are not forced to listen to it. Getting rid of the polls would be extremely slipper slope and could lead to downwards spiral for the game and if Jagex ever releases any content that's not just something like minor bug fixes, it's going to be massive blow to the trust in the community that can lead to actually good content being spite voted "no" just because some actual content was added to the game without asking from them and that would most definitely lead to new content drying out and would drive away large chunk of the player base. Polls are a form of wordless communication between the community and the devs, words can be hard (especially when there's thousands of variations of them), but voting yes or no to a question is easier. And it will allow Jagex to better understand what's the current preference of the community. Dear youtubers, stop asking them to remove polls. Because every god damn time it's this same story, and general misunderstanding why the polls exist in the first place. Yes, the community has done some really bad voting at times especially early on when everyone was afraid of RS3, but it's because it reflected the needs of the community at the time.
@lucasagnew3515
@lucasagnew3515 11 ай бұрын
Great content!
@Dylhann
@Dylhann 11 ай бұрын
Seriously though, this video is probably the best way to get jagex to actually listen to the player base. Thank you for using your platform to do great things for the game.
@lillypie128
@lillypie128 11 ай бұрын
can we poll if you should start streaming again
@urriso7538
@urriso7538 11 ай бұрын
"The game is in a real healthy state." The game: *literally on fire self destructing and trying to nuke it's own HQ all simultaniously.*
@austinwilburn1772
@austinwilburn1772 11 ай бұрын
What cow are they talking about? The only one I can remotely think of is Nightmare Zone but I don’t see why they would want to move it.
@greyrifterrellik5837
@greyrifterrellik5837 11 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with the osrs playerbase is the seeming *REFUSAL* to allow entirely new content into the game. Yes, I'm still mad about what happened with warding.
@MaxiemumKarnage
@MaxiemumKarnage 11 ай бұрын
Warding failing made me quit for nearly 2 years (and Jagex clearly already working on Sailing and not expecting Shamanism to be so popular leads me to believe these modern polls may be a touch rigged to avoid sunk costs >_>)
@DelPlays
@DelPlays 10 ай бұрын
​@@MaxiemumKarnage What the hell are you on about, did you even check the poll results or are you just talking out of your arse? Sailing was only slightly more popular than Shamanism which is why they RESPECTED the poll result and worked on Sailing FIRST. Shamanism IS NOT cancelled concept and it will be worked on after the Sailing unless some other idea will be more popular once it's topical again. I fucking swear that this community is really bad at reading / understanding the things that they complain about.
@tylerbreau4544
@tylerbreau4544 8 ай бұрын
I mean there is entirely new content being added to the game. Quests, gear, expanding the world, etc. Skills are a touchy topic though. I'd probably vote no on a Summoning skill for example. Summoning might be interesting but it's a very big change to the fundamental game I'm not exactly keen on Dungeoneering either, Dungeoneering wasn't necessarily bad content but the fact that there was almost entirely a 1-to-1 content relation with agility-shortcut-like-restricted areas. I mean like Mining - Gems, ore for crafting, ore for smithing. Woodcutting - Wood for fletching, firemaking, canoes, crafting, construction. Firemaking - cooking on logs, light sources, some bossing content (wintertodt and Chambers of Xeric) Skills branch out into other parts of the game. A skill which other exists to justify a minigame or activity with random out-of-minigame benefits is weird. Agility is not the same btw. Agility training is in world aside from a few pieces of content. The shortcuts can be a bit random but the influence on run energy regen.
@dockerb3159
@dockerb3159 11 ай бұрын
I never knew about polls and I returned in may so still have never voted on one
@tombgoblin4239
@tombgoblin4239 11 ай бұрын
are you from nh brother? sweet video!
@Army_of_One_
@Army_of_One_ 11 ай бұрын
7:08 rooftop courses were December 2013, not 2014
@werndogga
@werndogga 11 ай бұрын
thanks for clearing that up
@dodballabab
@dodballabab 11 ай бұрын
How many of them "active" players are bots though...
@stephanevuchinic4537
@stephanevuchinic4537 11 ай бұрын
'Instead of asking if people wanted the idea as described in the blog post they would poll every single aspect of that idea'. That's the only protection we have against shit updates disguised as reasonable ones.
@burntfish123
@burntfish123 9 ай бұрын
Remember when spell icon resizing passed two polls, then pkers bugged the devs until they did a 3rd unannounced poll over a holiday weekend which failed by 0.3% and we were stuck with 'no' for a few years?
@Jb-sb1pu
@Jb-sb1pu 11 ай бұрын
Damn I rem the Guthans in nightmare zone days literally maxed my account without even touching it lol also you were able to barrage for free with a group in nightmare zone at some point before they took it away
@aero_spaced6977
@aero_spaced6977 11 ай бұрын
i didnt even watch the video yet and im sending a like. idyl is just THAT good.
@maniacmatt7340
@maniacmatt7340 11 ай бұрын
Oh boy another polls video...jk I love the research you've put into this! It is fun to look back at our dimb af community and just, tilt our heads wondering what was going on.
@DjOnD0pe
@DjOnD0pe 11 ай бұрын
Second stomach pump in of going back to the start of the video
@liad9852
@liad9852 11 ай бұрын
Adding a poll for changing polls? Genius
@YltimateUIM
@YltimateUIM 11 ай бұрын
As a uim i hope they dont ruin the uim game mode like the fucking uims did
@DerpyDerpDevit
@DerpyDerpDevit 11 ай бұрын
good stuff
@stepantoman4694
@stepantoman4694 11 ай бұрын
Great one❤
@Taurus4926
@Taurus4926 9 ай бұрын
Polls work as intended. If something fails that means that not enough players wanted it.
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