Polyend Tracker (Livestream Archive)

I did a livestream on the Polyend Tracker, the hardware tracker from Polyend that will release later this year. This is the archive recording of the livestream.
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[@loopop]

Heeeyyyy thanks so much for the shout-out 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@adriansmith5958]

such a good looking instrument. this brings me back to using trackers to make chiptune back in highschool. would be fun to try out! thanks for the video handsome!

[@foxiepaws]

I actually still actively work in trackers as my main method of writing music, and actually am working on a modern tracker, so this is really neat to me.

[@asusloff]

they fitted the good old Impulse Tracker into a hardware case. Nice!

[@ToyKeeper]

FWIW, the traditional tracker method of doing swing is to alternate the tempo back and forth on each row. Typically this was done using the A effect, like going A05, A07, A05, A07, etc... but I think on this device it would be the T effect. Probably like T100, T140, T100, T140, etc. This effectively creates a global swing effect, but it eats up one of the effect channels in one of the tracks. At least it's easier than applying micro-timing to each note, though. Edit: Oops, someone in chat said the same thing at around 45:30. :)

[@alexandrosroussos]

Man even when you do livestreams, it's so clean and clear, like if it was recorded/edited :)

[@qbpie]

I had a big fat bingo square ready for you to say "Renoise". As a Renoiser, this brings me joy.

[@Polyend]

Thank you Jeremy!

[@RedMeansRecording]

thank u!

[@trevorbrown8737]

Has the tracker got a headphone socket on it?

[@Juksemakeren]

@@trevorbrown8737 only way to find out is to buy one

[@Neurotypique]

Mine is already preordered! Thank you for helping us wait, and you are a good streamer!

[@bahutu802]

In case this video is still watched nowadays: 1:04:00 One way to deal with triplets is to use the micro-move FX. In a 4/4 pattern, you'd put a HiHat on step 1 (no micro-move), on step 2 (micro-move 33) and step 3 (micro-move 67). That way, the HiHats are evenly spaced out over 4 steps. Yes, it's a bit tedious process (as opposed to for example on an MPC, where you simply quantize a recorded track with triplet or swing timing), but you only have to do it once for 4 steps and then you'd copy-paste the selection throughout the remaining pattern. When working with 3/4 or 6/8 rhythms, it is possible to change the 'pattern divider' from 4 to 6 in the config menu. So every 6th step is highlighted (of course you could use any other number as well and thus work with 5/4 beats, 7/8 beats or whatever).

[@andrewbehrens9045]

throughout most of this video I was saying to myself (post livesteam) "hey, he should check out the config page I bet the pattern divider stuff is in there" and after about a FULL HOUR you finally did and it was there and it made me so happy lol. anyway thanks for this I think I am going to buy one

[@k0rn3r]

Big thanks for Static Goldmine and Zero G Datafile mentioning. I was looking for theese for long time brother!

[@nutsbutdum]

Red Means Recording uploads new video... US household debt immediately jumps by 3 trillion!😂😂😂

[@XenoxParticularSound]

Love this small piece of gear so far and i still ordered mine, thank you for showing us your great demo track...

[@seanchud]

Oh bud, I did not need this. I mean I did. Maybe my bank account didn’t.

[@fightclub5066]

Oh my god! You have one! I have preordered mine. Thank you for your Video! Greetings from Germany! Stay healthy! 😘

[@tuff_lover]

samples from "my red hot car" nice

[@MisterThuganomics]

Man fuck rent, I'm spending my stimulus check on this

[@bertrandvanasch]

Thank you 🙏 just understood how to pick different slices form a sliced beat via the fx column 😜, and many more stuff ! Great job 👏

[@JMGtII]

3:40 prob the best reason to watch this vid! 🙌

[@dmon7464]

Last jungle track is killer !

[@DaMastaMynd]

I'm genuinely fascinated by this device. I was pretty into Renoise for a couple of years, so I feel like this should be right up my alley, but at the same time, I can't help but wonder why I would buy this over a cheap laptop. Trackers were built around that PC interface anyway, so for someone familiar with that paradigm, I don't really see what this offers.

[@MisterMajister]

Exactly my thought! It looks absolutely amazing, but I can't see the appeal in terms of how it works.

[@messer21]

Ike Elele I like the pad and wheel hands on feel vs a laptop

[@TheRealCabe]

My very first sound software was Soundtracker on the Amiga 500, waaaaaaay back when lol. Seeing this device scroll it’s pages gave me some serious nostalgia chills, that’s for sure. That said I agree that it seems to hold no advantage over a laptop with the right app. But I’m no pro, some people prefer working DAWless, maybe this is for them.

[@Eidraify]

i kind of get what you're saying but this argument could be made about pretty much any electronic instrument to some extent

[@MisterMajister]

​@@TheRealCabe Probably and in the end is just a taste in workflow (I love working DAW-less with the Deluge). I can definitely see this being great for experimenting with e.g. step-by-step fxs.

[@slemsvamp]

A tracker :O my life suddenly has meaning, I know tracking! :O

[@funknotik]

Jungle/drum and bass at 16:00 sells the product immediately. I'm ordering it now, that was all it took lol.

[@MarshalArnold]

Super cool, can't wait to snag one of these. Thanks RMR 😎

[@TheRealCabe]

Sweet, thanks Jeremy!

[@Limbic1000]

Jeremy thank you so muchhhh!!

[@cold_fashioned]

Ermagerddd trerkers! I can't wait to absorb this later. 🤘🏼

[@_BTB_]

The backround sounds sick, would love to have it 😂

[@dwellerinblack7816]

It looks super pretty but I prefer my Synthstrom Deluge, personally. :)

[@GeorgeCopperfield]

Dweller in Black What are some features you think are stronger on the Synthstrom?

[@maartenvanderkamp3755]

Trackers are still motor memorized for me. However, I use my op-1 and some old stuff (su-10, Rhythm Ace, dr220a etc) to make my music nowadays. Any insights on whether the Tracker is tracker enough to bring me back to the workflow I was used to in the late ‘90s? Reason being I really miss that way of working…

[@BoombapArt]

Wow! 😱 1:30am right now.. gotta watch this tomorrow! #jealous

[@MickBenjamins]

"I have fulfilled my duty" 😂

[@josecortez5213]

I need a gate effect that triggers with a band pass filter clocked to 5/4 time but only affects every seventh bar.

[@Tommo_]

Holy shit this looks clean af

[@PumpkinPieces33]

your twitch streamer comment at the beginning keeping it 100

[@aikighost]

So one question I have to ask is if it uses mono samples but my library is mostly 44.1 stereo, does it convert smaples to mono on the fly as it imports them to a project or do you need to pre convert to mono? EDIT: Polyend themsleves answered this question in the end. The answer is yes the samples are converted on the fly during import from the card.

[@milk_bath]

Clap Means Recording

[@illogick9062]

This thing from what I've gathered so far, which isn't much, is banannas!!! Features, specs, quality, and price? I'm super excited and skeptical. Can it be real?...

[@7177YT]

super excited when I saw your announcement on discord, proceeded to fall asleep and missed the stream ): Glad there's a recording! (: So tracker huh? I lov the sequencer concept, but the sampler attached to it seems a bit basic. Fun enough for the price in ypur view yes or no?

[@nautzero]

I hope the buttons are extremely durable that down arrow will get a lot of use

[@ArtFluids]

Can you destructively trim samples to save room for more sample data?

[@RedMeansRecording]

Yes!

[@watercolourmark]

Be nice if they did a battery handle for this like that Modal Cycles one, likely to late to integrate but could do it in a case format.

[@GamedevFred]

Thanks for the vid! Polyend tracker vs Deluge?

[@RedMeansRecording]

Deluge for overall features, hands down. Polyend tracker for a unique workflow and simplicity.

[@allegro_manontroppo]

Thanks dude.

[@whheaattzmayne3183]

I went to order one of these this past week... was very sad to see it wasnt released yet

[@SupiraOfficial]

Very nice, my friend.

[@nickskywalker2568]

Yeah was looking for that video! I'd like it the Polyend Tracker to evolve a bit more before thinking putting Renoise in the drawer. The real downside of swing is that it consume a FX channel, otherwise it's really simple to add: 16 step swing: use step 2 and fill with same micro-move value.

[@RedMeansRecording]

polyend has been doing really great at integrating features we're asking for. it's possible this will get added.

[@Signcutter]

Will this slice a recording and assign those slices to the pads kinda like the OP-1 does?

[@nautzero]

Was there any collaboration with the Renoise developers? does this thing export songs to renoise or other trackers?

[@kappnkappa]

You can export .mod files which can be imported into renoise :D I'm very excited for this workflow.

[@nonamelato]

Great Demo! What file type(s) does this use for samples? Looks live wav.? Are samples only mono?

[@dbomob]

Hey dude, great video! I know you can set an FX lane to a scale (Chromatic, Dorian, etc) - but can you set the pads to a scale the same way during note entry? In other words - are the pads always set to chromatic or can you change the scale across them?

[@bahutu802]

The comment is old, so no idea if it still matters (just in case anyone else is reading): Yes, you can totally do that through the config menu, where you can choose from a multitude of different scales. + you can then adjust the spacing so to say between the pad rows, so that you still have octaves vertically.

[@jeffryarchambeau5441]

@@bahutu802 my Tracker is arriving this week, so I'm glad to see your explanation!

[@octymocty132]

I always miss live streams Looks tasty bet cost is as well

[@allegro_manontroppo]

Hi Jeremy, can you tell me if the Tracker supports the SDXC format? Thank you :)

[@soejrd24978]

I really don't get why they fit the buttons and knob on the right side. It's so much more ergonomic to switch them around, both for playing and performance.

[@ZetaCarinae]

So weird and disappointing that the onboard sample memory is so small. Everything else seems really well designed and fun.

[@ArtFluids]

I also with the instrument count was higher EDIT: but it seems to line up with the number of pads so I'm sure that's part of the limitation

[@Ycros]

How does sample licensing work in this case if you're using samples that you'll be then potentially distributing with the product if your track is to be included as a factory demo track?

[@RedMeansRecording]

Who knows

[@questlove58]

What genre house would you describe this? I love it.

[@BrancoArgenta]

Please make it 16 tracks and individual outputs via USB!

[@Luftrum1]

Oh man, this kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYTSfYmIrNOlors is THE moment! THANK you!

[@LaymensLament]

This looks sexy as heck. I only got one question. What if you want to play a chord? Seems like this thing would be very resistant to using chords. 8 tracks and you'd need to use a lot of space for just one instrument.

[@elnugget5309]

Awsome machine, how would you compare it to the deluge as a stand alone grovebox? Which one do you like more?

[@RedMeansRecording]

the deluge is hands down more fully featured, having synth engines and more channels and effects. but the tracker workflow is kinda special and unique.

[@WARDISWARD]

TRiplet ...maybe they ould add a note delay column like in renoise Works wonderfull ( and not just for triplet timing )

[@iShredStreets]

Aawwh yeah!

[@graham8316]

its soooooo pretttyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@seanlightfoot5536]

Would this be a good portable option for hip hop beat makers??

[@RedMeansRecording]

sure, you can do a lot of genres on it.

[@theresonator01]

Mpc one or polyend tracker? Mpc has way more functions but this looks so much fun and hands on

[@RedMeansRecording]

MPC, probably

[@GLI00M]

So how many channels does this thing have? Some retailers say it's an 8 channel tracker, others say it's only 4

[@RedMeansRecording]

8

[@GLI00M]

Ordered me one and can't wait for it! Also does the tracker load up samples that already have looppoints saved to them in lets say a DAW?

[@ArtFluids]

The question nobody asked that I want you to be honest about: Do you think you would continue to use the device?

[@Neurotypique]

That's a good question, I feel like with some videos (e.g. enrique martinez, he'll say some device is the best ever made and he can't live without then you'll never see him use it again is his videos about his actual workflow)

[@RedMeansRecording]

Yes definitely

[@germxn8370]

i need the song from the beginning ! that loop is stuck in my head

[@lebronsinclair8012]

Wait for this machine or digitakt. Which has more functionality and features? Which sequencer do you like better?

[@RedMeansRecording]

Maschine is legit but needs a computer

[@lebronsinclair8012]

@@RedMeansRecording my fault meant to say wait for polyend tracker or digitakt?

[@smiljanicn]

Renoise is a powerhouse!

[@strelokknoize]

I have never been into trackers in the software world. So this looks more complicated to me than my Octatrack during the 1st few days. "Hooray! Finally some gear I don't need. I'm so happy!" :)

[@Alextheshep]

Woooo

[@linasmak9199]

ahhh, missed the live stream, wanted to ask about delay as nor Loopop nor Benn showed it. As it's a destructive effect, how long can it go for, i imagine it doesn't have a endless feedback? What sort of parameters it has?

[@fotszyrzk79]

it hasn't delay right now. You can mimic delay by duplicating the track and offset events. It's reverb only right now.

[@Polyend]

@@fotszyrzk79 Delay send coming soon

[@RedMeansRecording]

OOOOOOOOH hell yes!!

[@fotszyrzk79]

@@Polyend wooohooo! I'm happy that I preordered! Please let us know if we could have different lenghts for tracks, midi control over performance mode or song automation lane for writing entire performance!

[@mankismelbournejay]

3.44 👏👏👏

[@davids.7377]

You're a fave!

[@nautzero]

I am selling all my Other Hardware gear and just getting this

[@stormcrow70]

Yep, just sold mpc live to justify this purchase.

[@vishnudh1216]

15:18 can anyone please please help me out with the X static goldmine and zero G samples

[@boogiebong]

Would you be able to use the tracker to make unquantized beats from samples if you wanted to?

[@RedMeansRecording]

Yes. It does unquantized recording.

[@boogiebong]

@@RedMeansRecording Okay, thanks. Seems like a pretty interesting machine, might have to put my tax returns to good use. I remember our old computer had Fast Tracker 2 on it but all I knew what to do was to play the demo songs back then, haha

[@bahutu802]

@@boogiebong Probably not relevant anymore, just in case someone else reads the comment section: It should be noted though that the unquantized nature is stored as a micro-move FX, so for unquantized instruments, you only have one spare FX column left. Given that one might want to add (or record) velocity per sample as well, there would be no room left for other FX.

[@nautzero]

Theres room for master swing on the master channel

[@thewolfin]

1:17:39 👏👽

[@trob-o-matic8896]

So should I go Virtual or Modular?

[@DJ_TideWave]

Why does it not keep samples in stereo? Why convert to mono? I want samples to be in stereo. Storage should not be a problem these days. Great demo btw. I almost bought it until I found out about samples being converted to mono. For this price I would expect stereo. I know it outputs stereo with effects, but I think converting to mono is an odd choice.

[@RedMeansRecording]

i dont know :(

[@stormcrow70]

Coherence was good.

[@Cedochan1]

Can you record automations played in perform mode?

[@RedMeansRecording]

i dont think so

[@GradyNickel]

Are you still using this thing?

[@RedMeansRecording]

I personally am not just because I already have a deluge and mashine+

[@GradyNickel]

@@RedMeansRecording I want to try the Deluge next. I do love the Tracker. Good channel!

[@bahutu802]

@@RedMeansRecording :D In a different comment (2 years ago) a user asked whether you think you'll continue using it, to which you anwered 'Definitely'. No offense at at, but it illustrates the point hat one is easily hyped by a machine and then it sits on the desk collecting dust after a while... Still I think it's a subjective thing. For me personally, I was blown away by the Tracker reviews. Once I got it, it took several months until my muscle memory kicked in and everything. Nevertheless, nowadays it's my go-to hardware sequencer.

[@jmsmoriarty]

Tell me, can you do chiptune on this ? Or import my tracker sounds to it.

[@RedMeansRecording]

Yup yup

[@saschabode84]

Hey are the samples all presets? And come with the tracker?

[@Polyend]

there will be

[@saschabode84]

Thx . Ok this is fine 👍

[@saschabode84]

@@Polyend all the synth? And chords ?

[@tophan5146]

Wow only a hundred comments?

[@EverettDudgeon138]

Someone should just make a new Commodore 64 or Amiga and be done with it.

[@theablanca17]

There's both. You have all kinds of development in that area. For Amiga you have something called Vampire v4. You have a fullsize "new" C64 as well. The retro scene for that seems just to grow. Retro scene overall.

[@elissitdesign]

Blackmagic is bomb. Love their stuff. You should try Resolve to edit. BTW I keep all my screen protectors on. Still have my Octatrack and Analog Keys screen plastic on 🤓 You said Apple is a terrible company but use Prores422 codec 😂

[@Matt_Regan]

Looks interesting but at the same time, too complicated for someone that's used to standard step sequencers.

[@Danskimusic]

[@johnfrytey1331]

Polish gear 🧐🤔? Do you like it?

[@kylewall8521]

Do you charge it? Is it portable?

[@RedMeansRecording]

No. It can run off a USB power brick but it does not have a battery.

[@0zymanndias773]

Isn’t this almost close to a Ableton push 2?

[@RedMeansRecording]

No. The push is a midi controller

[@0zymanndias773]

Red Means Recording and this is?? A tracker? Sorry there’s too many names for all this gear. I’m a noob when it comes to instruments

[@basedvato]

@@0zymanndias773 Push controls ableton meaning when not plugged in to ableton its essential a big black brick. Ableton is linear recording... Tracker is basically step sequencing in vertical fashion with parameter per line.

[@0zymanndias773]

basedvato so this could be used without being connected to a DAW? I’m looking for something that could be used without a computer

[@basedvato]

@@0zymanndias773 Yea this is stand-alone, no computer. But honesty as a first piece of gear I don't know if I'd chose this. Depending on your style I think MPC Live / One is a great starter and bridge of standalone, and can also be used with a computer.

[@nautzero]

check out andromeda strain

[@joeb1485]

Jeremy any chance make video with tracker and iPad as main instrument thank you

[@immanuelhpj3707]

FIRST!!!

[@aidxn4743]

Damn.

[@endingsky8271]

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