Polygon Siskiu T8 Review | Big Fun Without The Big Price Tag

[@brandonodonnell7308]

I've had my T8 for about 2 months. It is my first dual suspension after riding hardtails. Gotta say I LOVE this bike however I went to less grippy 29" x 2.3 Eliminator tyres which increased speed and climbing efficiency. Mine came with Shimano 4 piston brakes (win). I changed the pedals, grips, saddle, stem and handle bar, and going tubeless have shaved some weight off the bike (sadly not the rider). This is a superb bike and I am confident to hit the bigger stuff with it. A perfect bike for Australian conditions. Great review mate. Thank you

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Glad to hear you're digging the new bike Brandon! We were really impressed with the Siskiu T8, such a fun trail bike at a really impressive price point. [Wil]

[@hambo76]

How did you score Shimano four piston brakes? What model were they?

[@brandonodonnell7308]

@@hambo76 my guess is they are the entry level 4 pistons but are awesome. Brakes are my #1 on my list and these have NOT failed. When I want them to stop I NEED them to stop and they have shone everytime...thank god

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Great review Wil! Covered everything!

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers pal, glad you enjoyed the review and appreciate the feedback! [Wil]

[@stevemay5147]

Amazing reviews by both of you and been really helpful in the decision process to get one and have patience to wait for these to arrive back in to stock 🙏🏼

[@joshowens2062]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin is there a reason why the Scott Genius doesn’t get a mention in related bikes? All others are mentioned

[@BarnesBoy_B7]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin Hey man, I’m having a tough time deciding between the T8 and the Scott Genius 950... any opinions or recommendations to help my indecisive mind would be greatly appreciate!!! All comments welcome! Thank y’all! -Brandon

[@robertgrah5309]

First visit to this channel. Really enjoyed your insights and thoughtful presentation style. Thanks!

[@grahamsipes6977]

Bought this bike about a month ago in the US. Still have a month to wait. The suspense is killing me

[@jasonh4709]

I just ordered one yesterday and yeah it's a really long wait, but I think it's worth it! I have the D6 now and I'm very happy with it, but want more....

[@ginganinjakid7063]

I have watched every single video on this bike and now know every part on it lmao

[@brennanlindsay3589]

Mine arrives today! Almost 3 weeks earlier than expected. Just check that tracking number every couple weeks!

[@brennanlindsay3589]

@Nick Bewley I just kept checking and every once in a while it’ll pop up available for pre order.

[@5violin533]

has it arrived?

[@hawaiinsurferx]

Can't wait!! Just scored an upgraded used T8 for $1400. Haven't been this excited for a toy in a while!

[@joc1862]

I've got the discontinued Siskiu D8 with120mm travel. Quite happy with the bike and even put an electric mid drive kit on it. Have now done over 2000ks on it with absolutely no probs. Handles the extra weight of the kit well.

[@joshuaallswang8016]

Can’t believe no one has told you this in two years, but there isn’t a D8! Only D5,6,7 then there’s the T7 and T8..

[@joc1862]

@@joshuaallswang8016 Sorry... but there WAS. I've got one! 'D eight' is stamped on the bike. It was discontinued very quickly for some reason.. Can't believe you don't check your facts!

[@romanb3309]

Thanks a lot! I was just looking towards buying this machine👍

[@gpearce11]

The Siskiu T line seems to be some of the best value in MTB at the moment. The T7 is probably the best value

[@jimmycychowski1142]

Just bought one 😊 just getting back into it so a good start with this polygon.

[@jimmycychowski1142]

It's being delivered today 😀

[@tonyhernandez1009]

My first bike! I’m excited!

[@ivettecotto1593]

como la conseguiste y que tal esta?

[@zeitismyname]

I rode a T8 myself and I agree, for this price point, it's an awesome trail bike. Anyways, superb review. You covered every inch of the bike haha 👍

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Good stuff Jom, glad you're enjoying the new bike, and appreciate the feedback! [Wil]

[@alexferguson9856]

Hi. I'm looking ta buy this bike but not sure a out the sizing. I'm normally a medium but by the sizing chart I'm on the top end of the medium chart. Would u recommend sizing up?

[@ronan7812]

Fantastic review mate. Very very well put together. The Polygon gets my vote. Shame they can't be bought now as everything is out of stock. Covid related I guess.

[@animalscars3799]

Available now at bicycles online

[@brettneuberger6466]

Really, really nice review. Super thorough, balanced and engaging.

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers Brett, appreciate the feedback - glad you dug the review! [Wil]

[@FoamFlingingHS]

Wow what an incredible review, everything I needed to know about this bike.

[@superyamagucci]

SLX brakes and a 200mm front disc made a huge improvement for me. Also put screws in the blanked off freeplay adjuster ports but haven't had a play with those yet. Small circlip pliers do the trick on those if anyone out there is looking for the hen's-tooth driver to do the job.

[@omahsaputra3602]

I made my order for T8 right after watching your review, nice one!

[@stoiclester1363]

soooo lucky! they're sold out! nice brother

[@omahsaputra3602]

@@stoiclester1363 just recently restock here in Indonesia, 27.5 or 29er...hope you get yours soon

[@leqmc5601]

Great video my man!!! 👍 keep it up...u just got me a new bike!!!!!!

[@lukeho283]

The main problem with polygon is weight and for parts that do not come with cables like the dropper They used the cheapest and non durable ones

[@gregs7562]

Great review. Currently riding a 2015 Stumpjumper but looking to replace it. I'm torn between this and the bigger N9. I think this T8 better matches my riding style & terrain.

[@benji4138]

Great review with awesome info as always. Cheers Will. Where abouts were those wooden features? I figured out all the other tracks 🤙

[@nathanbrooks6423]

Best reviewer bar none 👍🏻

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers Nathan!

[@maxMax-ns9pg]

Honestly the best part of my day is Wil saying G’day Frother’s!

[@kinsleydu]

Im been using this bike since it released October 2020. Overall a great bike. Only 2 problems I had its with the rear derailleur hunger coming lose whenever the rear wheel is removed, and the chain would have a tiny straggle separation with the chainring while paddling. I noticed these same problems on my friends 1month old 2021 T8 too.

[@peejwilco1357]

The cobweb on the seat at 3:50 :)

[@avefromrave]

Another great review Wil! Cannot wait til they're back in stock! What kind of bars are you thinking would match up well with the siskyewww ?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Thanks mate! I'd personally stick with the 780mm width, but I'd look for something with more backsweep and around 30mm of rise, as the stack height is on the low side with the Siskiu T frame. I'm a fan of 31.8mm diameter alloy bars for their better damping quality and general toughness. Renthal Fatbars are sweet, though I've been riding a set of Spank Spike Vibrocore bars lately on my hardtail, and they are super nice. Great vibration damping, a little heavy, but comfy as - recommended for sure! [Wil]

[@alexanderbarris6154]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin hey Wil! Just grabbed this t8 and looked at the spank spike oozy! Is the 25mm rise with 5’ up and 8’ back sweep enough to make a difference?! Riding mostly downhill flow trails and some jumps and drops!

[@caesar.1an]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin a

[@Rawkus919]

Great review, great discussion points. 👍

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Thanks pal! [Wil]

[@dylanholshouser9969]

Nice Review; I'm Subbed!

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Right on Dylan, appreciate the sub! If you fancy checking out the website (flowmountainbike.com/) you'll find a load more reviews, tech features, and news stories on there, as we don't always have time to do videos on every single bike and product that we're testing. Otherwise we'll keep the video reviews coming mate! [Wil]

[@AdrenalineIsLife]

Great overview!

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers mate!

[@annusepisodes3591]

Please review n9 !!

[@fitraabdillah4218]

The best reviewer 👍

[@TuboSYX]

Really enjoyed the video!

[@zulhishammustafa]

Great review..thanks a lot..waiting for my bike to arrive in Feb..

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers mate!

[@mojaverc1585]

My polygon trid is also coming in feb!

[@zulhishammustafa]

@@mojaverc1585 thats great sir...

[@Wanderer-px2ke]

Fantastic review, mate 👍

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Thanks for watching and for the feedback Kriston! [Wil]

[@Mionwang]

This channel is too good!

[@Carl_Donaldson]

The 480mm reach on large for someone 5’10” seems worryingly long 😢

[@mtbnoobs]

Great review! I’m seeing online that the brakes come with metallic pads and the rotors are resin only? Anyone run into this on the t8?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Good spotting Mark! Our test bike was the same - metallic pads on the 'resin only' rotors. No issues with braking power or damage to the rotors during the three months of testing, but it is a slightly unusual spec choice having Shimano rotors with Tektro brakes. I'll see if we can get an answer out of Polygon for you. [Wil]

[@Tisyawarali]

Is T8 good for downhill racing?

[@salvadorgarciadealba1040]

I’m about to buy a T7, what do you think of this bike? There are not small size bikes and I find the dropper seat too high for my height , should I wait for a small size, or just adjust on the run. Cheers from México!

[@zachdotwags]

Any reviews coming out on the N9?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hullo there Zach! Good news - we've already tested the Siskiu N9, and you can check out the review here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/tested-polyon-siskiu-n9-2019/ [Wil]

[@AndyTutorial]

great review bro..

[@subcuberecords1]

Really awesome review and helped me narrow down my next bike search. Currently deciding between T8 and YT Jeffsy Core 2. The price wise T8 is best value and available for £1900 in the UK currently. On the other hand Jeffsy Core 2 is £2650 but comes with Fox 36 Performance. I’m sure T8 is all the bike I need but just wondering how much I will be missing out of Jeffsys premium suspension + better wheels. Thanks

[@aminesaadoune2142]

If you are importing the YT to the uk you need to add over £600 in tax and duties which will take it up to over £3200. It is also not available until April next year! I am considering the same but I am not sure the UT is worth the additional £1200 and the wait.

[@subcuberecords1]

@@aminesaadoune2142 Hi, yes I found that out today. Been hesitating to place an order for ages on Jeffsy Core 2 but they only have XL on preorder. I am 182cm so right in the middle of L and XL. Been chatting to several owners on Facebook group and finally decided to place an order on XL today. So was a bit head-struck when I seen the total price bumped up to £3212!!! This made me seriously reconsider if the bike is worth it as I was planning to upgrade NX drive train straight away. Looked on all possible bike deals and found Vitus Escarpe 29 CRX for £3499. That thing actually comes with Fox 36 factory spec and Shimano premium XT drive train. Obviously no stock at the moment but on their website it states that stock will be in few weeks. £300 more that Jeffsy (with all Tax bulshit) but the spec is insane. Also looked at Sommet which is £100 more in a same spec. Then also considered Whyte T-160 for £2800 but really would like Fox 36 suspension.

[@Ka3ambA]

Hey, can you help me with choice.... I can buy 2 used bikes in same price.. 1.Polygon Siskiu t8 27,5 150/140 2.Canyon Spectral AL6 2020 27,5 160/150 Which one will be better trail / enduro and some jumpy style riding? Canyon have better suspension barkes and rims I Can also change fork and brakes in polygon for parts from Canyon Any ideas?

[@xara7152]

You could look for other bikes in that selection: despite the 2 bikes being available for 1999 each [ DO NOT BUY IF IT IS MARKED MORE THAN 1999$ ], There are better deals out there for less than 1600 bucks. But in my opinion, if you have those 2 bikes to choose, would definietly be the T8. And by far. A friend of mine owns a canyon spectral, and told me those canyon frames tend to crack (despite looking absolutely insane). The main factor to take care of is the suspensions on those bikes, where the T8 wins.

[@kooray83]

I had a question on sizing. Is their sizing chart accurate? I’m 5foot3 and they recommend a small. Should I go with the size small?

[@Dylivexo]

now i just need the moeny then ima get it

[@herbb8412]

With the single pivot rear, shouldn’t this bike be compared to the Giant Stance? The Trance has the more efficient Maestro rear suspension.

[@BurkeBiker]

I just got this bike yesterday

[@anthonyb924]

How does it compare to all the other brands you rattled off at the start? Norco Fluid FS seems to have really good components too for same price. What are your thoughts?

[@lukeeastonwright1651]

Can you review more products like helmets and tires

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey there Luke! For sure mate - we cover a load of product over on the main website (flowmountainbike.com/), particularly in our regular round-up article called Flow's Fresh Produce. You'll find helmets, tyres, components, accessories - all sorts of mountain bike gear in there! We don't always have the time to do videos for all the gear that we get in to review, so you'll find a heap more tech content over on the website than what we can post here on KZbin 👌 [Wil]

[@springa8047]

Is a 2021 siskiu d6 review on the way? I Road a mates 2020, and your 2020 review was on the money. I thought the bike was amazing, but I'm coming off a trek 3700 15 years old. 4 of us at work are all buying new mountain bikes we all are leaning towards the d6 but we can't find any 2021 reviews

[@michelebellosi3692]

G'day mate, How about the new vitus escarpe trail!? I m not sure which one to take when they will be available between this polygon and the vitus.

[@paul2673]

How does this compare to the Trance X in terms of descending capability?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hello Paul! It kinda depends on the terrain, but overall the Trance X 29er is the better descending bike of the two. It's got more travel up front (150mm vs 140mm) and it also comes with a beefier fork (36 vs 34), so it's quite a lot plusher and more forgiving, which elevates front-end traction levels significantly. The rear suspension is also a little more refined on the Trance X. Both bikes are plenty smooth, but the Trance X is slightly more reactive to square-edge impacts, and in my experience it feels more neutral against pedalling and braking inputs. On top of that, the Trance X also has a longer wheelbase, giving it more high-speed stability. Bear in mind that I'm comparing the Siskiu T8 against the Trance X 29 2 I tested a couple of months ago (flowmountainbike.com/tests/first-ride-review-2021-giant-trance-x-29-2/). That isn't really a fair comparison due to the price differential - the Trance X 29 3 would be the more comparable option in terms of price. Still, it's a few hundred bucks more than the Siskiu T8, but it comes with a cheaper RockShox 35 fork and a SRAM SX Eagle drivetrain, which really highlights just how good the value is with the Polygon. Hope that helps mate! [Wil]

[@paul2673]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin Very helpful. Thanks so much!

[@palasari79]

Unreal bike without broken bank account

[@iffy_too6465]

I read your review on your website as Im in the market for one of these class bikes. I have a question for you about the suspension though. What do you mean by "active suspension'? In automotive and motorcycling it means that the damping is dynamically variable for changing conditions, usually via sensors and servos changing damping rates and that isnt the case here is it? Its not like the Trek Re-Active or anything is it?

[@BarnesBoy_B7]

Hey man, I’m having a tough time deciding between the T8 and the Scott Genius 950... any opinions or recommendations to help my indecisive mind would be greatly appreciate!!! All comments welcome! Thank y’all! -Brandon

[@mwinner101]

Another great video. 👍

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! [Wil]

[@craigmoran5238]

Hi, you stated that this bike is coil shock compatible... Where did you get this information from as I am thinking of adding one to my T8?

[@gtirsblow]

Buyer beware: My polygon t8 arrived with a dented frame, bent seat and numerous other defects. Bicycles online refused to do anything about the frame claiming polygon are not accepting warranty claims for frames, Seriously WTF. Currently riding around on a lemon, hopefully it doesn't fold in half on me. Left a 1 star review on their site but it never went public. Don't trust the 5 star reviews on thier site they just don't post the negative ones.

[@brendanwhite7255]

I’m contemplating buying this bike. What were the other defects?

[@gtirsblow]

@@brendanwhite7255 Damaged front wheel spacer, dropper had to be disassembled to be installed, loose pins in the pedals. I think there was something else but I can't remember. To be fair once I resolved all the issues myself without assistance from bicycles online the bike has been good.

[@gtirsblow]

* The rear wheel wasnt true. I had to adjust all the spokes to stop it wobbling when spinning

[@clmfilms8103]

This is the kind of thing that worries me. For the same price I can get a kona process 134 29 at my local bike shop, then I don't have to worry about pollygons bad customer service, I get a year of free tune ups from my bike shop, and it's a company that I trust. Yes it doesn't have the fox suspension and the 4 piston brakes, but it does have maxxis tires and a better dropper post. Plus I can pick it up at my bike shop and get it way sooner. How much better is the base line fox suspension over the rockshox recon and rockshox delux select that the kona comes with?

[@gtirsblow]

@@clmfilms8103 Can't say I have any experience with rockshox but I feel like you can't really go wrong with any modern 29er. Components can be upgraded over time but support from the retailer is essential. I will go with a local bike shop for my next purchase

[@JuanSebastianIlardi]

Hi Wil! Greetings from the other side of the ocean. Great review BTW. While planning on getting the T8, choosing size became my issue. With a 175 cm rider, what size do you suggest for the 29"? Cheers from Chile

[@rodrigoandres8215]

Same here, cheers from chile. (1.75)

[@brizzle88]

x3 from Australia

[@gustavwelen8081]

Can you test the trek top fuel?

[@PairBoneToad]

Great review! Currently I’m riding the T8 2021 M29er. Considering to change the wheelsets to a 27.5. What are your thoughts on this? Pros and cons?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey there Ian! Personally I wouldn't recommend it - fitting smaller wheels to that bike will lower the ride height and bottom bracket, and it's already quite low as it is - you'll likely clip your pedals A LOT with a 27.5in setup! [Wil]

[@davidwfisher]

Can you tell me the RAD number range, for the stock handlebars On a medium 29” T8.

[@jimmycychowski1142]

Thinking to buy this 🤗 I'm only 170 cm tall they are staying a medium on the website

[@lmullen06]

Great review, any thoughts on the hubs this bike? Did they pop at all during testing? Was the engagement adequate?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers mate! No issues with the hubs on our bike. 36pt engagement is pretty standard these days and I find totally adequate for most mountain biking applications. [Wil]

[@r28959]

do you think this bike can race some trail/enduro races? am a beginner so the trails are not gonna be that hard. what do you think? is it capable?

[@Larrythe11th]

Would you make a video comparing the T8 and N9, please? Which one would you go for? I'm looking at the N9 right now. TIA

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hello Larry! The current Siskiu N9 is unchanged over the model that we tested previously - you can see the video review of that bike right here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/tested-polyon-siskiu-n9-2019/ When Polygon does roll out a new version, you can be sure we'll try and get our hands on one to test mate! [Wil]

[@tunaman4u2]

Have this bike and love it. Same height and have a medium too. Any bigger and I'd go large. I did add a 50mm stem.

[@PeterPhinney]

why the 50mm stem mate? am about to get this bike myself.

[@tunaman4u2]

@@PeterPhinney I was on the tall end of the medium frame recommendations. Felt a little cramped but the 50mm stem took care of it without having to move up to the large. Bars also don't hit my knees when I turn now.

[@fookaiwai]

i am pondering between the T7 and D7, any recommendation?

[@willypriesmalajaya6273]

T7

[@trizvanov]

Great review, Will! I'd love to hear your thoughts on 2021 Marin Rift Zone 29 3, which occupies the same price range and sold by the same shop.

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it! I've not ridden the Rift Zone yet, though it's a bike we're keen to get our hands on at some point. The geo looks great, and I've had good experience with the longer travel Alpine Trail in the past. The spec is also pretty impressive for the money - you don't get the full Shimano drivetrain (FSA cranks & SunRace cassette) but you do get Shimano 4-piston brakes, and the Marzocchi Z2 is a great performer. Sorry I can't give you a more detailed comparison, but hopefully we'll be able to get one in at some point for a full review! [Wil]

[@trizvanov]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin Thanks for the detailed reply, Will. Much obliged!

[@drappennen5704]

Hey Wil. Can you divulge where you tested this bike or is it a secret?

[@illfield3]

Some of those tracks are at Harcourt. La Larr Ba Gauwa MTB trails.

[@julianmcgregor7949]

Yeah I saw some Harcourt in there too

[@drappennen5704]

What state is that boys?

[@mwinner101]

@@drappennen5704 Victoria

[@drappennen5704]

@@mwinner101 ahhh okay cheers.

[@frotto]

Do the rims come with tape for setting it tubeless?

[@sanobum4528]

My T7 was pre-taped. I bought new Maxxis tires and set them up tubeless using Orange Seal. I have rode several times with no leaks/issues.

[@ichiroku]

seems to come with metallic brake pads and resin-only rotors. did you notice this or was it an issue? really great review!!

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Good spotting! That's a fair point about the resin-only rotors - I'll check in with Polygon on that one. We didn't have any issues with braking to be fair, and we also put A LOT of miles into that test bike. [Wil]

[@ichiroku]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin great to know there weren't any issues at the very least--thanks for the reply!

[@specializedbighitfsr]

Was that 14.8kg with or without pedals? Thanks.

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

That's without pedals Greg! [Wil]

[@stevemay5147]

As these are still not in stock - thoughts against the trance x 29 3? Your review of the trance put it in some shindig lights, but as my budget can’t stretch past $4k, I’d be keen for opinion on the x 3 vs T8 for all round performance - not sure the x 2 is worth $1k premium over the t8?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey there Steve! The Trance X is a great trail bike. I thoroughly enjoyed the 29 2 model we tested, very capable suspension and up to date geometry. The main downgrade on the 29 3 is the RockShox 35 Gold fork, and you move to a SRAM SX drivetrain. The fork would be my main concern - it's burly enough, but the spring and damper are much more basic, especially when compared to the 36 Rhythm on the 29 2 or even the 34 Rhythm on the Siskiu T8. For that reason, the extra $700 for the 29 2 is well worth it - not just for the fork, but also the SLX drivetrain, and the better brakes too. They do make the pricing on the Siskiu T8 look even better though - it's such a good package for the money. I would say the suspension quality is more refined on the Giant though. It has a longer wheelbase so it's more planted on the descents, and climbing performance is better thanks to the improved suspension efficiency and steeper seat tube angle. You've also got the adjustable flip chip for tweaking the geometry, which is pretty neat. The Siskiu T8 does feel a little more agile and playful, and it corners beautifully with the short back end and big volume tyres. Hope that helps! [Wil]

[@stevemay5147]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin thanks Wil - helpful indeed 🙏🏼

[@ianfunk2387]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin thanks for the review and the detailed answer to this question. I’m in the same boat. Have a T8 on order, but am considering the X 29 3 available through my local bike shop. Seems like the Giant Trance X is a more refined platform for both climbing and descending, but the 3 is not outfitted as well as the T8 out of the box. That Fox 36 fork on the 2 is a $1000 USD aftermarket upgrade, unless you can buy a take off. The SX derailleur and shifter can be easily swapped for a better quality SRAM Eagle GX or better. But now you’re back in the price range of the 2. Is it fair to say that the Trance X 2 has a better potential for what it can become with investment over time, and the Siskiu T8 is better as-is, with a lower ceiling on its performance due to geometry and rear suspension design?

[@stevemay5147]

@@ianfunk2387 FYI I got a T8 - it arrived out of the blue Love it, it’s amazing and I can’t yet fault it Thanks to flow for helping seal the deal

[@BikeTripBro]

I'm 5'5" but I want 29er mtb. Is M 29er too big for me ?

[@evg67]

I think I'm having a bit of an issue with the dropper on this bike. If you press the lever it doesn't go down immediately, it kinda requires an initial push to start traveling down. Basically I can press the lever and still be sitting on the saddle without going down. Also noticed when pushing straight down with the hand it is the same, very hard at the beginning of the stroke, but it slides down much smoother if you press diagonally (parallel to the seat tube).The seat clamp isn't overtightened, the cable is okay - no sticking. Does anyone have the same kind of problems?

[@sanobum4528]

The first thing I upgraded was the dropper lever (Wolf Tooth Components). I read that the stock dropper lever is probably the worst component on the T7/T8, so I immediately upgraded it and have had no problems with my dropper since riding my T7.

[@jenzzoi]

Are the volume spacers included?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Unfortunately not! You'll have to buy those separately. We'd love to see these direct-to-consumer brands, like Polygon and Canyon, including those volume spacers in the box so that customers can fine-tune their suspension. Maybe in the future! [Wil]

[@jenzzoi]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin aww man thats a pity. Thanks for the reply :)

[@drbenne6908]

Hi , at 175cm tall and 72kg weight would the 27.5 wheel be better than the 29 for me in terms of manoeuvrability ? Thanks !

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

If you're after maximum manoeuvrability, the 27.5in version would make sense. However, I've not ridden the 27.5in bike, so I can't say from personal experience. That said, I found the 29in bike to be quite playful already. The back end is short, the front-end steering is pretty light, and the suspension is quite poppy too. It's a really fun bike to ride, and the added stability of the 29in wheels is great on higher speed descents. [Wil]

[@paulwray4889]

Any advice on sizing for a guy who is RIGHT above the XL recommended height at 188cm, but shorter than average arms? I’m ordering this bike in about a week.

[@sanobum4528]

I am 6'2" with longer than average arms and the XL T7 fits me great. I don't think the L frame would fit me as well. You may want to buy higher rise ~35mm handlebars with more back sweep to reduce the reach a little bit. You could also reduce the width of the handlebars a little bit to decrease reach. The stock handlebars seem pretty flat, low, and wide. I am no 'bike expert' so take my advice for what it's worth.

[@pedropramireza]

I bought this bike in december and it is my firs full sus. bike, I really like it but i will be needing some volume spacers to add. And I'm not a big fan of the saddle, it caught my pants more than once

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey there Pedro! That's ace mate - are you enjoying the bike so far otherwise? And in regards to volume spacers, are you thinking more the fork, or shock, or both? [Wil]

[@pedropramireza]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin I’m loving the bike, the difference it’s insane compared to the old one (XC bike). I think I will add volume spacers to both, right now I’m using less than 20% SAG to compensate.

[@mojaverc1585]

Just run your pressures super high like sam pilgrim 😆

[@pedropramireza]

@@mojaverc1585 that’s what I’m doing....... maybe not that high hahahaahaha

[@leqmc5601]

Great video

[@theblurmetalhead]

Sir may i ask if there will be a Polygon T9 2022...just our of curiosity thanks alot

[@mctg9043]

nope

[@theblurmetalhead]

@@mctg9043 thanks

[@youtuby0305]

What's your height for M size bike?

[@brettmarchant9002]

Great vid - where were you riding?

[@p0iterpan]

It looks like harcourt central Victoria.

[@dwtn164]

What is the bike weight?

[@monkeays]

I cant decided if I want the T7 or the D7...

[@andybong22]

Get the t7 instead. I am on D7, it is good but I am thirsty for more travel on the suspension.

[@TrailtoTrailTom]

Can you fit 27.5x2.8 wide tires on a small size bike?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

I believe a 2.6in wide tyre is the maximum recommended width for both the 27.5in and 29in versions of the Siskiu T, but I'll see if we can confirm that for you mate! [Wil]

[@clubpenguin6952]

Everything functions properly kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Nothing was damaged in the box aside from a decal on the fork. The decal was missing a piece of a corner but I ended up peeling them off anyways. Assembly is easy BUT make sure you tune up the derailleurs. Both the front and rear need adjusting. I'd advise going to a bike shop but I opted out and put in 10+ hours with the help of KZbin. Ended up fraying a shifter cable but all in all I learned from the experience. The Brakes work well but the front caliper needs adjusting or at least mine did because the rotor was rubbing against the pads. Make sure you swap out the seat, grips, and pedals. For the short run you'll be fine though. I've read that this bike isn't built yet for hard trails but I just need it for the city. PA has some of the worst roads and being in a mountain this was a great choice. Worth the investment!

[@duane617]

Is it Assembled

[@stephenrundell9117]

This review was great! Thank you. Any chance of a review the same as this one but with the N9? I'm new to Mountain biking, I'm 189cm tall and 95-100kg and want to learn to jump and big drops, so I'm deciding between T8 and N9.

[@Nick-pq6ij]

I'm in the same boat!

[@gregs7562]

Me to. Tempted by the N9 though I think this T8 is more suited to my riding style.

[@stephenrundell9117]

@@gregs7562 I ended up getting a T8. It's great! But I'll need to upgrade the suspension, it bottoms out front and back down 1m drops. I've put extra spacers in and pumped up the pressure, still no good. When I get a chance, I'll try more pressure... Other than that, it's a great bike!

[@brandonodonnell7308]

@@stephenrundell9117 I had a similar issue but put a .8 spacer in a run 205 psi. Even on big drops I still have about an inch of travel left on the shock. I could probably run about 190 but I like the support of 205. I slow the rebound too so it doesn't buck me out of the saddle.

[@nickstersss]

and now there's 3 of us LOL, super tempted to just go N9 straight looking at the specs because if im upgrading here and there after getting the bike might as well just get N9 but i think i might lose out on the geometry and etc

[@stephenshepherd5068]

Your reviews are so good. Thank you! One question. Do you think a lighter wheel set

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Cheers Stephen, thanks for watching and for your question! For sure, a lighter wheelset will make a considerable difference to the overall ride quality of the Siskiu T8, and it'd be a sensible place to spend some money on an upgrade. It would improve acceleration, and it would make climbing easier, particularly on technical sections. Going to a decent 1900g wheelset, such as the DT Swiss M 1900, Stan's Flow MK3 or Hunt Trail Wide, would be a great upgrade. Depending on the tread pattern and compound you go for, narrower tyres could potentially add a little more speed, though the main difference would be improved precision when it comes to handling. I really dig the compliant performance of the big 2.6in Hans Dampf tyres on the Siskiu T8, and the grip is excellent, but some riders may find them a little vague through high-speed corners. A narrower tyre can give you a slightly stiffer and more direct connection with the trail, albeit at the expense of comfort and damping. Hope that helps mate! [Wil]

[@stephenshepherd5068]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin Thank you!

[@tamalito3481]

What do you think of the Stumpjumper alloy? 🤔

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

I've not ridden the alloy Stumpjumper as of yet, only the carbon model. The geometry and suspension design are identical though, and the handling is top-notch for an enthusiastic go-anywhere trail bike. However, to get the same Fox suspension package (34 Rhythm fork and DPS shock) on the Stumpjumper, you'd be looking at the Comp Alloy model, which sells for $4,900 AUD. It's got a solid spec for proper riding, but it is considerably more than the Siskiu T8 ($3,399 AUD). [Wil]

[@tamalito3481]

​@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin in my country the stumpjumper alloy costs AUD 3617 and the siskiu t7 2972 AUD. Which bike do you recommend? it's my first full suspension bike.

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

@@tamalito3481 - I don't think you can go too far wrong with either choice, as they're both great trail bikes. That said, there are some key differences in price that give the Siskiu T7 an advantage over the base level Stumpjumper Alloy, which includes; - Recon Silver fork (vs 35 Silver fork) - RockShox Deluxe shock (vs X-Fusion O2) - Shimano Deore drivetrain (vs SRAM SX drivetrain) - Tektro 4-piston brakes (vs 2-piston brakes) The fork and shock will have a considerable effect on the overall ride quality, and here I believe the Siskiu T7 is the better option over the base model Stumpjumper Alloy. I've also found the Deore drivetrain to be a brilliant performer, and much more durable and less fussy than SRAM NX. On top of that, the Siskiu T7 has a more powerful 4-piston brake on the front. Aside from the difference in spec and price, you'll also want to weigh up the benefits of buying through a local bike shop, versus buying online (assuming Polygon is sold online where you are?). If it's your first full suspension bike, then the backup service, knowledge and support of a bike shop may be of greater value to you. Hope that helps pal! [Wil]

[@tamalito3481]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin Well then I will choose the siskiu t7 if it is available or in pre-sale, if it is not available I will buy the stumpjumper alloy, thanks for the help friend 👌.

[@RrR__RrR]

This Siskiu T8 or the Canyon neuron al 7.0?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey pal! Good news - there's a detailed comparison between those two bikes in the full review right here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/polygon-siskiu-t8-2021-review/ Hope that helps! [Wil]

[@RrR__RrR]

Wehey! "For longer map-crossing trail rides with plenty of elevation gain and ridge-line traversing, the Neuron AL is the bike I’d pick out of the two." That sealed it for me. Thanks!

[@cliffordrichardc]

is that good

[@felipeacosta5242]

Coule you review siskiu d7?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey Felipe! We actually tested the Siskiu D6 not long ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooCskK2fa9droKs In that review, there's quite a lot of discussion about the D7, which I reckon you'll find pretty useful. Hope that helps! [Wil]

[@felipeacosta5242]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin it will do! Thank you

[@upnext8462]

Mate For 165cm should i get small or medium?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

100% go for the Small size. I stand at 175cm tall and have been testing the Medium, which suited me well, but is likely going to be far too long in the top tube for a rider at your height. Hope that helps! [Wil]

[@upnext8462]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin *going to be far too long in the top tube if i go medium? Or both S and M? Thanks mate!

[@rodrigoandres8215]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin im 1.75 aswell. Ive seen 1.78 people using size L.

[@nishanpandey2261]

Can it fit dpx2 on medium frame?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hey Nishan! I suspect you could, though I'm not 100% sure what orientation you'd have to run it, and if the piggyback would impede on water bottle clearance - I've asked the question to Polygon and will get back to you once we have the right answer for you mate! [Wil]

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Got a response for you Nishan! The Siskiu T frame will fit a Fox Float DPX2 shock, and providing you mount it correctly (with the piggyback above the shock, and pointing to the rear wheel), Polygon also says that it doesn't interfere with water bottle clearance. Hope that helps mate! [Wil]

[@nishanpandey2261]

@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin thank you mate.

[@lars6870]

Is the bike not to small for you?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

The Medium size frame was a great fit for me at 175cm, and handling wise it offered decent stability while still being easy to throw around. I could *possibly* ride a Large, but personally I wouldn't want to. I think if I was after increased high-speed stability, I'd be looking at the longer travel Siskiu N instead. Hope that helps! [Wil]

[@AmanUllah-nz6vi]

What is your height ?

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

Hello! There's a discussion about sizing in the video from 4:00 that will answer your question. [Wil]

[@mctg9043]

The T7 costs 400 more than the D7 at the moment, and I wanted to ask why exactly that is. The only thing that's changed on the T7 is a bit more travel (same shocks), better tyres and slightly better brakes. Where have the $400 gone towards?

[@hambo76]

The T7 has a 12 speed Deore drivetrain, 4/2 piston brakes, better tyres and a stronger frame.

[@mctg9043]

@@hambo76 Let me go through that comment and tell you why you're wrong. a) The 12 speed deore is absolute shit. You get one single more gear, and a shit ton more problems. Everyone trash talks it, and for good reason. b) The Tektro brakes are pretty shit and definitely not worth 400 dollars so the question still stands, where did the 400 dollars go? c) Better tyres is the one valid argument you made. Still nowhere near worth 400 dollars. d) The frame is not stronger than that of a D7, it just has a little more travel. So all these tiny upgrades aren't worth anywhere near 400. Oh yeah, and the damn thing weighs 17.5 kg.

[@hambo76]

@@mctg9043 Oh well, buy something else then.

[@mctg9043]

@@hambo76 That's what I did. Got a D7 in my garage right now.

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

The t7 has a front boost fork, the d7 doesn't.

[@DK-wr9nd]

Wait a sec, wheelset weighs 2494 grams by itself...? It's like heavy as E-bike wide wheelset or bombproof DH wheelset, gosh. If I get this bike, I'd swap the wheels first.

[@FlowMountainBikeYouTube]

That's correct Donny! It's actually about the same weight as the wheelset on the Giant Trance X 29 2 I tested a couple of months ago (flowmountainbike.com/tests/first-ride-review-2021-giant-trance-x-29-2/). A big contributor to the overall weight of those wheels is the Shimano MT410 hubset, with the rear hub weighing almost half a kilo on its own. I do like that the wheels use standard J-bend spokes and external brass nipples, and the Entity rims have a really nice shallow profile with a very wide internal width. That gives great support to the 2.6in tyres, and it also means they've shrugged off a heap of abuse. From a strength perspective, I think they're a great choice given how hard you can ride the Siskiu T8. At this price point, I'd much rather have a heavy and durable wheelset, than a lightweight and potentially flimsy wheelset. That all being said, a wheelset upgrade would be a sensible way to throw some cash at the bike, and would have a big impact on its acceleration and general enthusiasm on twisty trails. Given the overall quality of the Siskiu T8, I'd find it pretty easy to justify upgrading to a nicer set of wheels. [Wil]

[@DK-wr9nd]

​@@FlowMountainBikeKZbin I pre-ordered Siskiu T8 after seeing this video, and I guess it is likely that I will upgrade the wheelset. May be I should save stock wheels to abuse in lift-served bike parks haha.