Are Hong Kongers British Citizens?

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[@tazimrahbar7882]

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[@TheBunnyYT]

Any border dispute in the world- Britain: uhhh... so yeah... bye!

[@thestoic4629]

fActs lol

[@vtron9832]

Britain is to its colonies the way a douche boyfriend is to his girlfriend: swoop in, get benefits, leave.

[@iumasz6088]

Thats 20th and 21th century Britain. 19th and 18th century Britain would be like "whats that my good chap, a border dispute with the indigenous population?" *Colonisation* *intensifies*

[@edwardvictorau]

I agree.

[@infinitecanadian]

@@vtron9832 And British colonies are largely better than the colonies of other countries.

[@duoslinger4325]

13:19 Hongkongers didn't make Cantonese the language of Chinatowns in San Fransisco, and most older Chinatowns. The original immigrants to other countries like the US were all from Canton. San Fransisco's had Cantonese immigrants since the 1850s. The Hongkongers just moved from one Cantonese speaking place to another.

[@pascallaw5909]

HK was basically a fishing village back then when the California Gold Rush started... And Canton used to be the only one Chinese port that was open to the outside world in Qing Dynasty, so most of the immigrants to California were Cantonese-speaking Cantonese (or from nearby counties) back then.

[@DaneGilCabrales]

Manila Chinatown, the oldest Chinatown in the world is mostly not speaking Cantonese but Fookienese Source: Me, a person living near the oldest Chinatown in the world

[@kitwan9364]

@@pascallaw5909 fookien is a made up word, made by CCP, using mandarin pingyin. The real word is hokkien or hokkienese

[@dddddd2872]

kit wan I’m from Taiwan and I speak Hokkien, but Fookien is not pinyin nor made up by the CCP

[@JKMT]

@@dddddd2872 Fookien is Cantonese pronunciation of Hokkien

[@on99kfc]

As a HongKoinger, and one of the 50000 families who got the British Citizenship, I love the last line of the video. We love our city and our way of life, and want to stay here as long as possible, yet Hong Kong is a place on borrowed time.

[@harry12]

do u still have HK SAR passport?

[@canto_v12]

It always was, wasn't it? Even if Hong Kong stays static, the world around it is constantly changing. The "get rich quick" 1980s was just a fluke in history--China doesn't need HK to export its goods anymore. The good thing is, if we work hard and do good things (rioting is not a "good thing"), we can give Hong Kong a breath of new life. The past is gone, and the future is what we make of it.

[@lrt_unimog8316]

Another BC👋

[@nmslese]

@@canto_v12 "rioting", ha~

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

That borrowed time is up.😔

[@kwanlinus6999]

13:37 This is the case with the Hong Kong Chief Executive currently, Carrie Lam. She works as the CE, but her husband and two sons reside in the UK and hold full UK citizenship and passports.

[@eustache_dauger]

3:10 transfer of sovereignty to an existing country, instead of full independence also happened to the Crown Colonies of North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore in 1963 when the three territories were given away to the main British ally in Southeast Asia, the Federation of Malaya. Whereas a referendum was conducted in Singapore in 1962, no such referendum was conducted in both Borneo colonies.

[@eugeneng7064]

Sarawak became independent on the 22nd of July 1963 then joined the Federation on the 16th of September of the same year.

[@eustache_dauger]

@@eugeneng7064 22nd July marks the date of attaining self-governance, not independence. There are differences between "self-governance" and "independence." Singapore attained self-governance in 1959, but they're still not independent until 1965. The Federation of Malaya attained self-governance in 1955 (when the Alliance won the 1955 election) but only achieved independence in 1957. Independence confers sovereignty, which is best demonstrated through control of security & defense, as well as capacity to conduct diplomacy with other sovereign foreign states and international organizations. Sarawak has neither of the two since 1946. If possible, you may refer to the telegram dated 1st September 1963 from Lord Selkirk to the Colonial Office, which states among other thing a. The grant of independence to a territory under British sovereignty requires an act of Parliament at Westminster. b. That the British Malaysia Act provides for the transfer of British sovereignty over Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak to the new Federation of Malaysia *but does not provide for the separate independence of these territories.* In 1966, Singapore retroactively received its Singapore Act 1966 from the Parliament of the United Kingdom, therefore fulfilling item "a" as mentioned above.

[@eugeneng7064]

@@eustache_dauger hmm. Good to know. Thank you

[@risannd]

Not much later, Indonesia was outraged and set an invasion, which they lost.

[@sardosam_]

@@user-op8fg3ny3j brunei was always and still is a Sultanate, isn't it?

[@f1sh98]

Small correction, at 7:40 you say they mention the same Great Wall, I believe the Chinese emblem is the Tiananmen, the large gates entering the forbidden city

[@chucklebutt4470]

Yup, the "Gate of Heavenly Peace". I wish there was more liberty in modern China. I'd love to actually visit there.

[@krioni86sa]

How many people live there?

[@NicholasMarkovich]

He says the same national emblem *and* illustration of the Great Wall, which is *inside* both passports.

[@dan339dan]

The great wall is the background illustration on each page of the passport.

[@martiddy]

@@chucklebutt4470 Quite ironic name since it's located in front of the Tiananmen Square.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Person to HKer: Are you a British citizen? HKer: Yes but no.

[@alcabone1126]

They are not citizens(allowed to live in the uk permanently) but nationals i think

[@Rakinjo2]

@@alcabone1126 They are by definition not citizens if they cannot vote.

[@priyanshu1074]

Yesn't

[@israellai]

It's a clear no. We're nationals, not citizens. We can, however, vote in the UK, as commonwealth citizens. Not even EU citizens can do that (before Brexit).

[@markonikolic7957]

@@israellai why would you even write that last sentence lol. Ofcourse someone from Germany couldn't vote in UK, even before Brexit. EU is just a trade and economic union, nothing like a country.

[@edwardvictorau]

Very good timing for this clip, when Hongkongers are worried about their passports and identity.

[@SW-8228]

Ed I’m worried because UK and HK are quite in not so good relationships and what am I? Well the previous 2 places I just named.

[@SW-8228]

UK Politics And His Opinion 3 million is an over statement. The UK has a housing crisis.

[@alfredthegreat194]

UK Politics And His Opinion we are already a full country. Our ecology is dying. Building housing and more infrastructure would be a disaster.

[@0utd0wns0uth]

The City of Hong Kong deserves independence; watching this city-state slowly die from Chinese invasion is heartbreaking as a British citizen

[@danieljohnson4994]

@@SW-8228 I don't think you understand the housing crisis it not because there isn't enough houses there is it's the facts that theres not enough social/affordable houses for low income workers

[@eugeneng7064]

Pretty sure the image at 7:40 is the Gate of Heavenly Peace, aka Tiananmen, not the great wall.

[@stanislaviliev6305]

Probably cause it was less bloody

[@alexlee7168]

@@stanislaviliev6305 damn just like that, true tho

[@raymondlaw5258]

The same Tiananmen where the protest for freedom were supported by Hong Kongers, and were masscared by China

[@campkira]

hence why they gave NGO passport so people had a choice and ability to get out of the country in case worse thing happen is the foolish kid who think... this is my home i will stay...and fight the biggest goverment in the world whoese record is know to do evil shit to people who go against them...

[@PolyMatter]

The Great Wall illustrations are *inside* the passports, but both passports have a national emblem.

[@saggalousmmwamow9069]

As a native Hong Konger, I'd say this video is a very well made one with very thorough understanding of the situation. Thank you for the useful and informative video.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

China: How much content do you want PolyMatter: Yes Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall

[@williamzhu7845]

@@labadaba5088 wrong date, try May 35th

[@alancheung4977]

Kim Jong-un will not like this ...

[@KinkyLettuce]

@@labadaba5088 tiananmen is June 4th

[@gsacelm7753]

Why do I find you everywhere

[@brennencox516]

"Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall" Tianmen Tower, to be precise.

[@hgos7211]

12:24 Wow, never thought I'll be able to see my housing estate in a KZbin video.

[@davidscutar1403]

@Hgo S stay safe

[@alancheung4977]

Same in that exact clip i saw my home

[@hgos7211]

@@trackc61 Search "Tseung Kwan O". You'll be able to recognize the canal on Google maps.

[@hgos7211]

@@davidscutar1403 It's generally a pretty safe city. I'm not a part of the protests.

[@nytrex_yt7417]

That housing estate looks peaceful tho

[@xxyanlixx]

I'm from Hong Kong, I'm learning so much about our SAR. Thank you Evan :)

[@Rey-lg8sx]

You have national identity different in mainland China.

[@doubledeckyomom]

"British plan to move Hong Kong to Northern Ireland" The cheek 😂

[@리주민]

That actually has been done before by various countries to dilute a province's native population, particularly when the natives despise the "foreign" govt.

[@lorili6885]

Ur not welcomed, get back to China!

[@mikeoxsmal8022]

@@lorili6885 the brits already did that to northern Ireland before, that is the reason ni is even still brittish

[@oakoakoak2219]

@@mikeoxsmal8022 Yeah, the protestant population was there to maintain the union

[@liuzeyuan]

Moving Asians I mean not whites to Ireland? Lol effing bs

[@mpch3743]

10:04 Fun fact: they tore up an expired BNO passport

[@tristanlau1213]

And the corner was cut, that means they renewed the BNO passport as well lol

[@hkbazinga1283]

How do I show my loyalty to China but play it safe at the same time? Tearing up expired and corner-cut BNOs.

[@owencheng523]

To also persuade others to tear up tears,in order to reduce the number of rivalry for him.BTW for 大波Man as we no he is definitely a police(got knee knocked lol) but judging by his attitude, and his fame and popularity within this incident he is more likely focused on his own personal insurance of safety for him and his future or family perhaps.Yet as we can see judging by the fact as a police he can’t receive any bribe from any,suggesting he won’t benefit except infamy from the incident.So it’s better for him to play safe is he really committed to the cause as it benefits himself,or is he actually hiding behind this camouflage and what he really care is his own survival.well anyway ladies and gentle man wat have been shown is a weakness,and yet how many individuals that have a BNO is only a handful compared to the majority of population today.They either are the ruling classes that benefits from the regime,or either they are going to play it safe judging by their minimal age.Finally to those lucky individuals(judging by ur own point of view) we all may have different cards own our hands as individual,but wat I can only say by now is play your cards wisely it’s better to take a shoot when u got a clear view of the situation.

[@p8p877]

Expired BNO passports are still eligible for re-application

[@mchmchminecraft1637]

Those who torn their BNO in front of the British Embassy had their passport already cut in corner in 09:59

[@ddnn974]

Those just clowns

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

They don't pledge loyalty to China or the broader Chinse People. They are just sycophants to the perpetually insecure control-freak rotting undead corpses who are sitting in Zhongnanhai in Beijing.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

13:03 What happened to my peninsula

[@deeeenisttv]

RIP

[@PedroGomes-mt3iz]

Well spotted, supreme leader

[@user-ld6is4ni3d]

Ahhh yes, the person from swiss001!

[@YourboiM]

China ate it

[@emperorpenguin4663]

Your majestic/supreme leader, you will automatically become a US citizen sir. I approved this message

[@s070076100]

Really appreciate your effort into introducing Hong Kong to the English speaking world !

[@shrewdguy4916]

I would say most British people know the situation in Hong kong

[@xxyanlixx]

There are so many sentimental resonance that connect with me on this video: 1. My mother is one of those who obtained British citizenship under the 50 thousand citizenship grant scheme. 2. My uncle, who was a BNO holder, feared the CCP, sold his two apartments in Pok Fu Lam (upper-class neighborhood) and fled to Vancouver to obtain a Canadian citizenship. Granted, he came back to Hong Kong but the housing price rose so much he now cannot afford to buy a home here. 3. My father, who's a US citizen, in contrast, did not see CCP as a threat and stayed in Hong Kong to continue with his business, invested more in the property market and has seen his net worth rose year by year. He is constantly considering to surrender his US citizenship to obtain the Hong Kong SAR passport. Going forward, the BNO situation doesn't affect me at all. But through the grapevine, it's been said the parents of the post-97 born protesters would settle in UK first to gain full British citizenship, then bring their children over afterwards, creating another type of "astronauts". However, this major decision varies between families. I love that you cover Hong Kong and China so much. Would be happy to donate a sizable amount if you have a patreon account.

[@laod7192]

Thanks for sharing!

[@xxyanlixx]

Chenxing Li $50/video :)

[@chunchoi4434]

You might want to tell your father that you can't have both a Hong Kong passport and a u.s. passport. No surrender necessary.

[@harry12]

so how many passports do u have? US? UK? and HK SAR?

[@holycow343]

Some people just value political freedom more over economic stability and vice versa. HK People who are fearful of losing political freedom should just leave HK why cause trouble for the ones who don't mind sacrificing a little bit of political freedom for economic stability. To those people who think China will give up land so that HKers can be independent are extremely naiive.

[@16Gym]

Those BNO changes are not confirmed yet. Also, the majority of young protestors will be left out, which doesn't help the situation at all.

[@04nbod]

We really should re-open applications for it. If the children of the people in 1997 could access it, it would raise that percentage considerably. But a mass exodus won't help Hong Kong. It will just remove opposition. Our actions need to be focused on getting China to back off

[@rei_cirith]

Depends what they do about family of BNO holders. Hopefully they'll figure something out. Honestly, after BEXIT, the UK could use professionals from Hong Kong.

[@ZeBanded]

that said, its still in an early stage. things could change

[@tylerliu2632]

all those countries and people who say that they care about the hker's freedom, have done little to nothing other than just sayin stuff. when it comes to actually doing things they are useless

[@garmenlin5990]

The only thing it helps is lowering the housing prices

[@thomastang6272]

I was born a British Citizen in HK but now i am US Citizen. We left in 1980's and never returned. My mom has BNO and never applied for me due to that I was a minor. We became US Citizen long prior to 1997 handover anyway.

[@garrettzucker2894]

You sir are very lucky right now

[@aaryt]

He lives in the country owned by corporations/lobbyist, plagued with racism, obesity epidemic, expensive healthcare, has a comedian leader named Trump, who's infrastucture is disintegrating, shrinking middle class, has more than a trillion debt to China, funds wars every decade or so. I wouldn't call that lucky.

[@lennartherix6872]

@@aaryt Still better than fearing about your freedom

[@gebys4559]

My friend didn't get it as his parents couldn't be bothered to apply for him. He studied in UK and with BNO could have likely extended it to full citizenship, but had only HKSAR so had no such option despite living there for several years.

[@GyroCannon]

@@garrettzucker2894 But is he REALLY though? The US and HK are both suffering politically right now.

[@Clozi6]

Thank you for covering Hong Kong! This was much needed.

[@thisshouldbecensored4504]

I would just like to say thank you for that ending, as a Hong Konger, it really did hit me hard :')

[@nicholaslau3194]

Same here. Stand with HK

[@andison627]

Same here bro.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

What are you planning to do? How can one plan his life in Hong Kong - a mortgage, starting a business, speaking freely - knowing that an evil dictatorship could come in at any second? I'd be trying everything I could to escape.

[@isaacwong1465]

me too as a HongKonger

[@canto_v12]

@@VisibilityFoggy Sorry, the "evil dictatorship" came in in 1997. You're 23 years late. Meanwhile, what you *can* do is make the best of what you have, and once China is convinced you've settled down, they actually give HK a LOT of leeway.

[@brycem1207]

Probably one of the best channels in terms of content on and about China 👍🏽

[@kingpak1325]

Bryce Franco Zholshybekov We aren’t Chinese, they are colonising us HongKongers.

[@kenzhang312]

@@kingpak1325 How pathetic

[@deeeenisttv]

@@kingpak1325 yes, but it's still a video which is related to China

[@de132]

@@kenzhang312 I don't think it's pathetic, I do think it's a stark opinion.

[@kenzhang312]

@@de132 even the second/third generation immigrants from China still call themselves Chinese in overseas. They would not deny they are Chinese, some of these young people in HK have betrayed their roots, lost their spines. That is truly sad and really really pathetic. how come the young people in Macau doesn't say something like that？ Also the irony is that most of the people who miss the British ruled time are the ones who have never experienced it.

[@recnemorcen]

13:45 "Such is the predicament of Hong Kongers. They love their city, their language, and their way of life. They want, above all else, and as long as possible, to stay. And yet, they also know these things are temporary." As a Hong Konger, these words cut so deep that they actually brought tears to my eyes...

[@HT-jy7dv]

I mean Hong Kong hasn't changed... But sure whatever.

[@Perririri]

It will all be over in 2047

[@martinmendl1399]

@@Perririri Its already over now. Hongkong has become a dictatorship last year. China broke the agreement.

[@NoCareBearsGiven]

Hong Kong will still have culture after China takes it...? Cantonese culture itself isn’t even native to Hong Kong lol so I wonder how Hakka felt before this. People seem to think Hong Kong is the only Cantonese place in China and forget Guangdong exists lol

[@crodsbye]

​@@NoCareBearsGiven Cantonese spoken in Guangdong is slightly different to that of Hong Kong. Guangdong Cantonese consists of more mandarin-derived vocabulary and noticeable differences in vowel placement, many youths in Guangdong also have a stronger mandarin accent due to education there being entirely in mandarin. Hong Kong Cantonese has more English loan words and we generally sound angrier. It's similar to the differences between Austrian and Standard German.

[@parcoli1311]

As a Hongkonger, the closing remark choked me up.

[@shawnli9284]

Parco Li why you chose overseas

[@Sinaeb]

@@shawnli9284 Can't choose where you are born

[@parcoli1311]

Shawn Li Sorry, I cannot comprehend your question.

[@Edoardo396channel]

Good luck with your freedom 💪

[@infinitecanadian]

I sympathize with Hong Kong.

[@KeKNine]

11:06 this dude has some big ass shoes

[@rosssyr]

Fill them with gravy

[@groundsalt2199]

I read this as ass holes lmao

[@yuetchuen]

@@groundsalt2199 I read this as big ass holes shoes lmao

[@liam-man7265]

He must be the real Bigfoot.

[@mrtek8095]

Finally, a new Polymatter vid! Pls upload more, your vids are great!

[@rrune]

Great videos take time unfortunately

[@worldwidewonders681]

Cute dog

[@p9848o]

I was born in 1998 and I will immigratie to the UK through BNO visa in the coming year (One of my parents is BNO holder who was born in HONG KONG before 1997). I just want to say I think I am a British who is loyally to THE KING .

[@darth.severuss]

1st, BNOs are not British citizens. 2nd BNO visa does not guarantee citizenship.

[@ehislqwezad316]

Bno holders have right to vote.

[@ehislqwezad316]

@@darth.severuss you chinese are always china citizenship 🤣

[@yggvv7570]

I agree. So why China is not happy about this? @@darth.severuss

[@NicholasLeung_nktleung]

Thank you for such a detailed analysis. As a Hong Konger who has 3 passports, 2 homes and one of the weirdest identity in the world, I was touched.

[@ycohui]

HK Protests PolyMatter: Meh UK Home Office & Foreign Minister Mails PolyMatter: BNO is becoming better, Yap. But the majority protesters isn’t really eligible for BN(O) Protesters: Cries. We love Hong Kong, as we could kept just like the 80s and 90s. Yeah, Hong Kong is always as a second-class citizens under whose control. Yet, They are Hong Kongers but not Chinese. They still got their language as the vid stated (Cantonese). The independent currency and a slightly weird judiciary system. Maybe the controlling by brits were bad before, but the double-deckers buses, freedoms and the lovely society was brought from UK. God save the queen as just Her Majesty’s “formal” birthday had just passed, and Hope the freedom would be with Hong Kong and their citizens

[@hko2006]

Not sure you do you mean by "a slightly weird judiciary system", HK follows the common law system from the UK.

[@ycohui]

As the Judge of Final Court is appointed by Chief Executive of HKSAR, at the current state, Carrie Lam whom isn’t selected directly by the citizens but appointed by PRC Government. What would you think about the judge? Currently Geoffrey Ma is still having a high credibility. But he is going to retire and there is a new one coming. Who knows what will be going on. HM Government just not as the same as PRC Government

[@rei_cirith]

We won't have our language for long if China has anything to say about it. A Hong Kong teacher was recently fired because a mainland parent complained that they refused to teach in Mandarin. Mandarin is also slowly taking over Chinatowns overseas.

[@lilitong8067]

Freedom when ruled by the uk? But the problem is that the hk people were regarded as second class citizens and never had the right to elect their government

[@hko2006]

@@ycohui Ah, thank you for reminding me this "appointed by CE" bit, forgot it myself.

[@ultearmilkojohn1145]

7:30 the national emblem features an illustration of Tiananmen Gate, the entrance to the Forbidden City, not the Great Wall as stated

[@FrozenBusChannel]

I think he's mentioning the Great Wall graphic on the inner page?

[@adrianktng]

As a Hong Konger, Thank you so much to make a video about us

[@silverstar501]

9:47 Supporting the china by tearing off Photocopies and overdue BNO passport while sending their children to study in UK.... such a powerful support to the great china! (slowly clapping my hands.....)

[@FlylHigh]

It's about competition and status. Why complete against millions of other students while there's far less competition oversea. International students have to pay far more than their domestic counterpart, so it shows the family got money as well. That being said, there's international student going to China as well.

[@achernarchang883]

It's a widespread phenomenon not only in HK, but in China at large. Many Chinese "patriots" publicly boast their love for China while, in private, send their offsprings to study abroad and even get foreign citizenships.

[@SimonLeeds]

That’s like saying all Americans are all racist. And all Russians just drink vodka all day. (Slowly clapping my hands at you...)

[@leung618]

That dude who teared photocopy passport doesn't have a right for holding a BNO passport, he borned after 1997. And the another man teared his cancelled passport lol

[@achernarchang883]

@@SimonLeeds Dunno what made you come to your analogy. Last time I checked, "many" and "all" didn't mean the same.

[@sohopedeco]

I was in Macau during the 2014 Brazilian presidential elections and I read a news report about the ballot on the Brazilian consulate of Hong Kong was the one where the opposing candidate Aécio Neves had won by the largest margin in the world. Then they explained that most "Brazilian" voters in Hong Kong were actually Hong Kongers who had lived for sometime in Brazil, naturalized, and then went back. Most didn't really care and only wanted to make sure not lose the Brazilian citizenship.

[@제규형]

Thanks for the video. I've lived in Hong Kong for wonderful 4 years and loved every moment of it. The way its amazing mix of people and freedom back then was unlike anything I've seen. I hope they find their freedom soon.

[@drlau8898]

Well done. A very well-round explanation on Hong Kong issue. Absolutely right about that we, the British National Overseas in Hong Kong love our city and hope to reside here. However, it is also true that we need protection from the Britain at the moment as we are now oppressed by the tyranny. The Sino-British joint declaration, an international treaty between the UK and China is breached and therefore the UK has right and duty to extend the rights of BNOs and save them. For short term, there might be minor influx of people in the UK, but it is sure that they will leave once HK is liberated from the tyranny. For the time BNOs are staying in the UK, there will also be contributing and not welfare consuming, just like how they live in Hong Kong. It would be grateful if the world could understand the issue and continue to stand with Hong Kong.

[@dhv2852]

All my love and support to everyone in Hong Kong, keep fighting, the world is watching you.

[@oliversissonphone6143]

Factually incorrect. Australians haven’t been able to move to the UK without a visa for a long time. (1950s?)

[@megaangelic]

Still can if their parents or grandparents were British. At that moment in time that was a very very large portion of Australians and Canadians. Today much less so.

[@MuppetsSh0w]

Gotta mention white people bad you know

[@Sparx632]

It does have 90 day visa free access though I think.

[@williamevans4894]

Australia and Canada should be allowed to move to the UK without visas

[@quahntasy]

*border dispute occurs* Britain - uh okay bye

[@zeqi]

We learn more about the world and useful information from a single 15 minute video by Polymatter than a whole day in school

[@jakob5643]

Hmm sounds like a new microphone right? so good quality on the commentary

[@natureportal9285]

Thanks

[@geometrydashmega238]

@@natureportal9285 Keep up the good content

[@natureportal9285]

@@geometrydashmega238 thanks

[@aryanpuri6192]

@@natureportal9285 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@angus1087]

You missed several crucial point on why Hong Kongers currently view BNO is superior to HK passports. 1. You could obtain an emergency passport to continue your trip if you loss your BNO, while you cant do so if you hold an HKSAR passport. The chinese embassy have no authority to make an HK emergecy passport as the granting of a HK emergency passport could only be done by the Immigration Office in Hong Kong, not by the Chinese embassy. As a result, the Chinese embassy could only give an A4 paper for you to fly back to Hong Kong. 2. Some countries in EU/EEA treats BNO as BC holders and offer them EEA tuition fees and benefits as same as BC holders. It is way easier to open a foreign bank account if you present a BNO compared to HK passports. 3. The citizenship displays as British for BNO holders while it shows Chinese in HK passports. In some countries it would be easier and quicker for us to deal with immigration officers or using some other services. Discrimination to chinese nationals do exists. 4. The UK embassy provides the same quality of assistance to BNO holders as that of BC. While the chinese embassy offers no help to HK passport holders as they technically do not have the information of the HK passport holders, and ironically they treated HK passport holders as second tier chinese citizens in handling their cases. This was evident when the UK evacuated BNO holders from overseas back to Hong Kong much quicker and lower cost compared to HK passport holders. Currently there is a large surge in BNO applications in Hong Kong. The number of renewal applications per year is rising exponentially due to the political unrest and the COVID-19 response to HK citizens overseas.

[@awtizme]

13:03 RIP Korea

[@Useless0305]

98 2 cheeky bit of racism 😬🥴

[@La1930CosaNostra]

Wow!!! Attention to detail I must say... You picked that out in a 5 second clip of the world map... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@capncake8837]

@B J You can actually see a little of NZ.

[@tomlam8684]

The fact that the youth in Hong Kong fought so hard in 2019 only gave a chance for older generation to get their UK citizenship. Most of them even supported HK gov for their anti democracy move. That make me sad.

[@clementkong8133]

@9:41 if u notice the top right corner of the passport was cut, so those people ripping their BNO passports were actually just ripping their expired BNO passport.

[@KarlDMarx]

I remember one Hong Konger stating: "We are not British subjects - we are British objects!" The question of nationality and residence status is just a game for the elites.

[@yiliang9085]

Thank you for covering the issue!

[@kothemagica]

As a HKer I got to say I learnt a lot from this video

[@ESC_jackqulen]

Great video! I really like several points pointed out in this video that were often overlooked by the news. -some saw HK returning to China as a good thing back then, because we're not ever considered as British citizens. -my family is the prime example of "astronaut" thing mentioned in the video. My mum stayed in HK while the rest of my family immigrated to USA. My dad has returned to HK after getting US citizenship. The foreign passport as security is so true. Because of having US citizenship and me not moving back to HK (lol), my parents now started to make plans to permanently moving to USA also...

[@ESC_jackqulen]

​@Erwin Lii Hi, I'll answer them with my own bias on the issue... -In my personal opinion, reclaiming HK is not about winning the cold war against USA/India, but simply a matter of national pride and ending colonialism on what used to be China's land. -I wouldn't say the UK "left their colonial mess behind" this time around. UK wished to remain control on HK but China does not want any foreign involvement in HK, so the UK was forced to leave. -The China-Taiwan issue is far another complicated situation. Technically, both claim to be the legitimate 'China'. What started this divide is the different political parties. You can say it's a civil war that never ended. There is no right or wrong in political systems. Just because we grew up with democratic ideologies doesn't equal communism has to be wrong. (of course, as an individual I would prefer one that gives me more personal and political freedom) -The HK protests... It started with the extradition law which is saying that the HK government can send fugitives to mainland China to be put under China's judicial laws. The law was opposed because people in HK afraid that China will abuse this law. The first demonstrations against the law were peaceful, it's 1 million people went on the streets saying they don't want this bill to be passed. HK government decided to ignore and continue to green-light the bill, then a week later 2 million people went on the streets to say no. It gets violent after that because there is a lack of response from the HK government that satisfies the will of HK people.

[@adamsfusion]

Stateless HK: So Britain, can you give us a home? Britain: I would but, y'know, _you're brown_ .

[@isaacwong1465]

no we're yellow

[@armour7]

Tbh, I don’t think there is a problem with people who are British getting British passports. There were changes that were bad, but I think that it is only fair that someone who was born in the uk (or someone in their immediate family) should be allowed back to the UK in the place to someone that wasn’t.

[@skfok8472]

@@isaacwong1465 yea we're yellow

[@skfok8472]

Which is kinda white

[@Subscriberschallenge-hh6tu]

racism

[@MrE03]

Thank you for making videos on such important topics. Subscribed!

[@paciic]

12:00 Actually their Parent(s) can get citizenship, then as a Spouse/Child of the Citizen can gain citizenship in the UK

[@samarthrao3793]

it’s so cool watching these videos after watching your skill share course

[@onnybody]

The statement about Australian, Canadian and New Zealand citizens having the right of abode in the UK in the 1990s at about 4.55 is incorrect. Commonwealth citizens lost that automatic right in 1962.

[@PHCuber]

Hong Kong: rallies Polymatter: what’s that? I’m talking about your *passport* .

[@karl-oppa5261]

PHCuber pinas lang ang gumagamit ng “rally” when describing protests “protest” is the right word

[@nytrex_yt7417]

@Karl -oppa You can say rallies as well sometimes and you can’t correct someone if your not an expert at it

[@chunchoi4434]

64 memorial gathering is a rally What is going on most of the time in Hong Kong is protest.

[@PHCuber]

Rallies are protests, period. I’m also from PH btw

[@gavinchan838]

You hit the nail on the head. All of those protesters love their city, culture, language and the way of life. However, it is looking increasingly likely that China would not give up on increasing their influence on HK and turning it into a normal Chinese city eventually. Therefore leaving might be the only option left.

[@My-nl6sg]

not looking increasingly likely, it's certain that having recovered territory from colonization any country with a brain would want to reintegrate it. To the Chinese, there's no reason that one is any different from another simply because they were born in an ex-colony. It was and it will be just a Chinese city, so I guess bye.

[@itzhen7032]

My it was never a city, it was a small fishing village built upon a big pile of rocks, hong kong only flurished afther british rule

[@unifieddynasty]

@@itzhen7032 Hong Kong flourished primarily because of geopolitical and macroeconomic factors, not because of any alleged innate advantage of British imperialism. The reality was that Britain in Hong Kong operated under the policy of "positive non-interventionism", where Hong Kong's economy was left to the free market of Chinese labourers who built the city, wealthy Chinese entrepreneurs who provided the networks and capital, and skilled Chinese artisans who preserved Chinese culture. The Chinese first migrated to Hong Kong because Britain won the Opium Wars and secured Hong Kong as their exclusive most favourable port of trade between China and the rest of the world, and later more Chinese migrated to Hong Kong to escape the civil war and communism, whereupon Hong Kong was once again an exclusive trade port between China and the rest of the world. Don't fall into the trap of viewing British imperialists as some sort of idyllic white man's burden prometheus. The world is far more complex than that.

[@lzh4950]

@@My-nl6sg The PRC probably has flashbacks to the Opium War I think & probably feels that HK was supposed to be destined to be "just a Chinese city" I think?

[@lzh4950]

@@My-nl6sg I believe mainland China is also canvassing support from Chinese outside greater China too e.g. Singapore, with probably the belief that it should transcend national boundaries

[@dylreesYT]

Amazing video, well done and thank you

[@lexffe_lol]

1. AFAIK the SAR passport does not gain any expedition when approaching the UK Border Control. (imo passing the border is as fast as BNO holders) Sidenote: sometimes BNO holders are even considered as British citizens. (border controls of some countries sometimes fail to distinguish between BC and BNO.) 2. Both passport holders need to fill in landing cards IIRC. (However, the landing card system has been removed about a year ago?) 3. I have also read stories about BNO holders gaining consular access (not in China, but anywhere else in the world basically)

[@jimyu9147]

Wow, this is a really well researched video. Amazing channel.

[@chinabill379]

I am a youtube-r from mainland China. I am so jealous of the freedoms and privileges the Hongkong people have. The difference between Hongkong and mainland China is almost like the difference between South Korea and North Korea people.

[@captainjohnson1214]

Subscribe to your channel bro. You are an honest and smart chinese who can see through the propaganda, stay safe.

[@huayisun8983]

现在你们这种自媒体还好割韭菜吗？搞的我也想入行玩玩了

[@eugeneng7064]

I'd say your situation is leagues better than North Korea. You can leave, have job security, basic healthcare, et cetera. A more apt comparison would be Gilded Age America and the EU

[@ladymacbethofmtsensk]

Thank you for your support, it's good to see that there are still some people in the Mainland who are aware of the truth

[@Peahnuts]

Not sure if it means anything, but I hadn't been receiving your videos for about 5 months. I had thought you completely stopped until I stumbled upon this one by accident!

[@xeroxsaw1303]

Chinese related topics: Exists PollyMatter: *I can milk you*

[@bobcatdidi8188]

Oh yeah It's big brain time

[@SimonLeeds]

You’re from the mainland right? Mainland sucks.

[@edgelord8337]

@@SimonLeeds bait.

[@G32352443]

@@SimonLeeds shill

[@makemoneynow5061]

Keep posting interesting contents like this!

[@charleswomack2166]

Canadians of convenience is yet another name for the HK people who obtained Canadian citizenship and then moved back to HK. But now, I imagine that a lot of these Canadians will be moving to Canada!

[@horchan1216]

Great research done for this video, and great timing as well!

[@jimstar179]

0:30 The shown map of Hong Kong is wrong. Before 1997, the rectangular piece of land next to the Chek Lap Kok airport has not been reclaimed yet, for that Hong Kong Macau Bridge has not been built.

[@10230691ust]

very insightful video clip, useful and thought provoking , particularly for those ppl in hk who are uncertain about their future

[@firewoodloki]

I am a Hongkonger, I see Hong Kong I upvote! Edit after watching: Yes, we LOVE Hong Kong. It is great that many countries, including Taiwan and the UK are welcoming us. The top option for us always is to stay in Hong Kong where it is our home. Please help us, in boycotting China's product, and supporting your country to sanction China.

[@huayisun8983]

Why don't you start boycotting everything from Mainland China yourself？Not only products, but water, electricity and food supply. Perhaps also add your parents and grandparents.

[@israellai]

Spotted the redditor

[@captaindak5119]

Nah, my country is on alright terms with the PRC.

[@toniETH]

Huayi Sun so yeah... Bye

[@hy128]

If you want to boycott China, leave hongkong as quick as possible

[@azuru.7903]

Damn your videos are genuinely awesome

[@tsang6482]

Two things... 1. Any reference to Hong Kong before 1 Jul 1997 should be with the (colonial) Hong Kong flag, not the HKSAR flag. 2. A Hongkonger with a BN(O) passport is theoretically eligible to become the Chief Executive. A criteria to become CE is to have no right of abode in a foreign country. A BNO doesn't give one the right of abode in the United Kingdom.

[@Official_dj]

Hey my guy just a quick thing that the graphic map of the UK Ur using misses out all the the islands, I know Shetland and Orkney are far and harder to get in but the inner and outer Hebrides are right off the coast , Scotland looks weird without them , Great vid tho just that one thing , 👍

[@kevinlau7780]

Thank you for spreading information about this issue. Great video👍🏻

[@gavinchan838]

Those people who tore up the BNO passports were from the pro-beijing camp. They only do it for their pro-beijing political party. Some of those passports torn were already expired. One of them even studies in the UK.

[@p8p877]

As a HKer now in London as a dependent(fancy way of saying immigrant teen) I'm grateful of Britain allowing us to come.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Sadly. The Illegal Migrants are making Native Brits more anti Immigrant. I fear for Collateral.

[@Pikachu0071000CS]

Sigh... We in Hong Kong are probably doomed... thanks for this video outlining the history of the BN(O). If only those of us younger than the handover are given a path forwards...

[@andrew.lanc3r]

I disagree. Dawn is just around the corner. It will come eventually.

[@saosaqii5807]

Not probably You are 100% doomed HK has always been a part of China and your guaranteed way of democracy will only last 50 years, the shift in identity will cause major problems down the road but China can always use brute force to create conformity There was a time when HKongers use to identify as Chinese even as a British colony but because China being retarded got too aggressive, now HKongers who wouldn’t have mind being identified Chinese are instead protesting.

[@andrew.lanc3r]

@Zahin Shahazad That's a bit bleak isn't it? Naah the notion of "Dawn" depends on your perspective really. In my mind, every new day is a bright new dawn.

[@sausagejockyGaming]

im from the UK, i hope my government makes the right decision and gives ALL hong kongers the right to british citizenship, we made a promise to protect the freedoms and rights of hong kong not just those born before the handover, there is hope.

[@loveislove2359]

@@sausagejockyGaming even if they want to, they have no ground to do so.

[@t.godemiche7087]

A brilliant analysis, thank you!

[@黎勇輝]

I'm from Hong Kong! Born after handover. I'm 3rd generation Indian, at the handover, China did not want us to be Chinese, thankfully, Hong Kong passports existed, thus we were entitled to them. In '47, I have no doubt that my sole passport will change to a PRC one. The country has modernised and hopefully will not decline based on race.

[@harry12]

so u have the HK SAR passport? if u have that passport u r considered as "chinese citizen" by PRC.

[@tristanlau1213]

What's the colour of your passport? Is it navy blue or white?

[@vinniechan]

@@harry12 a fair few sportsmen and athletes opted to give up their passport of original nationality so that they could represent Hong Kong

[@黎勇輝]

@@harry12 Yes, my one and only passport

[@AshlandInsuranceOregon]

How interesting! Thank you, PolyMatter.

[@Vinny_The_Hat]

We're in a recession? well i guess im gonna get drunk tonight!

[@kingdong9722]

Haha same im getting 3 bottles of henny

[@joelolsteenstolemymoney1204]

I wanna get drunk but im broke because of the recession

[@ChadPANDA...]

Well some are and most will be by the end of pandemic

[@harrislai6656]

I really wanted to cry from just watching this video, I'm from HK and just a kid btw...

[@NoCareBearsGiven]

Cool

[@jeaniechowdury576]

What has happened in HK is so tragic.

[@canto_v12]

Same with the US. We'll all get better just give it some time.

[@martinmendl1399]

@@canto_v12 Hongkong will never get better. China is inevitably going to become the global hegemon for the forseeable future, and Hongkongese identity and democracy will be totally extinguished. It is a tragedy.

[@canto_v12]

@@martinmendl1399 Agree to disagree. In the meantime don't be scared to visit us after vaccination, it's a great place.

[@CSCharlesIV]

love it how you sneak in the ad at the least expected moment lol. kudos on the videos :)

[@deep.space.12]

1:31 More like threatening a military invasion instead of simply cutting the water supply. Hong Kong had plenty of reservoirs and used to have a desalination plant, making the territory largely independent of China's water supply (and basically any supply. Most of Hong Kong's local imports are from Southeast Asia, not China. Emphasis on "local" because import stats cover re-exports). The majority of water purchased from China is ditched directly to the sea anyway, and serves only as a means to transfer HK's coffer to China. This idea was reinforced during a major drought in China, where China refused to reduce the water supply to HK (which had plenty of water), and cared only about profiting from water supply than their own citizen's lives. Of course, that was used by Chinese propaganda to create hate towards HK people for receiving preferential treatment during a drought, despite the HK government had pleaded China to stop drowning us with water during a drought. But to perpetuate the fear-mongering of HK's dependency of China, many of the water projects were shut down circa the handover.

[@canto_v12]

This is correct, from retired Chinese officials' accounts, the negotiation was basically Deng Xiaoping stating that China would resort to military force if Hong Kong wasn't returned in 1997. Britain had no leverage, and the fact that Hong Kong Island relied on Chinese supply of natural resources was just the nail in the coffin for colonial Hong Kong.

[@Rockthezeppelin]

Great video as usual! Small correction, at 7:35 you say the passprt has an illustration of the great wall, but I believe that's China's national emblem, which is an illustration of Tiananmen.

[@hko2006]

8:14 Hong Kong passport is being exploited by Chinese, Sabrina Meng has 3 HK passports for instance.

[@jeroenchu7147]

what is the use of 3 passports?

[@Scarsofevil]

​@@jeroenchu7147 Idk, but alot of the wealthy and every government official have passports in other countries. I think there is a document leaked where alot of them have US, Canadian, and Australian Citizenship. Like Bruh....

[@Michael_Chater]

I have 3 passports. UK, Australian and South African

[@Goodman-4525]

Thank you for the continued coverage on our situation!

[@tmfan3888]

0:19 that railway map is so updated

[@Wolfangs88]

Britain: HK people are second class citizens HK: people waiving the British colonial flag and singing God Save the Queen

[@edgelord8337]

The irony.

[@johnneymc]

u beat a dog too often and too hard the dog starts to think that beating means love

[@anthonyleung835]

Better be second class British citizens than second class Chinese ‘citizens’

[@proboxpepper6752]

@@anthonyleung835 I thought Hong Kongers feel more superior among all the Chinese.

[@ppaaccoojrf]

@@proboxpepper6752 Exactly. Better to be second class citizen of Britain than a citizen of China of any kind.

[@leung618]

10:05 BN(O) has 185 places visa-free(42 visa on arrivals and 6 electronic visas), and HKSAR has 170(35 visa on arrivals and 2 electronic visas) at the moment according to Henley Passport Index.

[@eloy618]

Henley Passport Index does not rank BNO so your source is wrong. A proper UK passport has 185, while BNO has much fewer.

[@caitlynchui4887]

thank you for making this video

[@attalan8732]

As someone deeply invested in Hong Kong's struggle for continued democracy, I am also appalled at the complete lack of understanding and gratitude towards Britain for the very democratic traditions that are being defended, especially since it could have all so easily just evaporated with a complete Communist takeover. While it is easy to blame and see how Britain has failed to achieve a 100% democratic and free HK, it is harder to notice the work it did to prevent it from becoming a Communist colony because that is simply taken for granted.

[@renaissancebeing]

Kudos for the great video, much gratitude for bringing the issue of BNO to the light of the world. Cheers!

[@MN-kj9dw]

i am HKers and also holding BNO. i would say its 95% right. we love the city. we love the way we live. i am 95 born, may be i am not old enough to hv position for saying things. but giving HK back to china is stupid. look at wt china did to HK now. i would say 80% HKers are pro-democracy, and its a big conflict between HK and china. ppl of western country, you guys need to wake up. gov of china is using your democracy as weapon, buying your major companies like social media, telling you that china is raising peacefully. WAKE UP. thats no voting in china, which means leaders of china hold all the power, and normal ppl of china has no control of it. you think these leaders are peaceful and harmless? they killed in 1989,june 4th. they killed the ppl in the west of china, they killed ppl of HK. they kill whoever step in their way. these isnt "differences between two big culture of the west and east". these just dictatorship of one evil regime, and they are fking smart.

[@anderson5094]

视频都说了香港的资源全都从大陆来,而且大陆随时都能切断这些资源,不论从合约还是从事实上,HK都必须给大陆.这只不过是盎格鲁萨克逊人在"拯救人类"计划中没有成功的遗产罢了. 但说句实话,中国在你口中那种非民主的生活中过得要比你们想象的幸福的多,我们的公交车司机不会罢工,我们可以凌晨两点还在大街上走来走去.我们的孩子天天都能去上学.但是要看一个国家的核心努力方向是什么,中国十四亿人,国家选择了牺牲一定的"自由"来换取安全的生活,这是人们所期盼的.

[@MN-kj9dw]

​@@anderson5094 這就是你們最大的問題，你們自認為別人需要為了你的利益(或者別人)付出，從根本上否決了一個人的決定權。its the most important question of main land china, you guys think one person right is no greater than anyone else so its a "right thing" to take one or some ppl rights just to make things 'better' for everyone else. 「我们的公交车司机不会罢工,我们可以凌晨两点还在大街上走来走去.我们的孩子天天都能去上学」 公交車司機連人帶車上21人沖到河裡，南方水災幾千萬人受害當局直到7月才做事情，你們的小孩還需要給各種各樣費用，看看你們農村戶口的中國人，他們的小孩就不是中國人了嗎。 自己國家的高官都向往外國，發言人剛走下來就帶著小孩去美國讀書。你們自稱強大又自豪的中國人是太愚蠢，還是一心選擇視而不見? 口口聲聲建設國家，李文亮盡本份了，你在幹麻? 你連選擇的權力都願意放棄，你可以建設甚麼? 當你看到錯誤也不能作聲，心裡告訴自己跟你無關，而更多的同胞在受難，但卻天天告訴自己要為民族建設。你血一般的背後，你還有甚麼可以正視的歷史? 你還有甚麼自豪的價值權教育下一代? 你口中說的五千年文化教會了你甚麼，看著李文亮死去哭兩下然後麻醉自己，不會有下一位? 如果到現在你都不覺得是制度的問題，你不是愚蠢，就是自知而不知。 我的中華文明教會我，寧為玉碎，不為瓦全，現代的道德給予了人從生來就有的天權，為甚麼中國人不可以有? 為甚麼現在強大的中國人還沒有智慧選出自己的領導? if you said given up rights are for the greater good, wts left for you to build when you hv rights of none? when you seeing things get ugly with your own ppl, you tell yourself it is for "everyone good". who is the everyone exactly? with all the bloody history with your own people, wt can you tell to your children and grandchildren?

[@joek7031]

Hk is china's, don't like leave then.. take your brainwashed a 5 5 out of china..

[@attalan8732]

Britain refuses to give up Hong Kong - gets accused of imperialism. Britain gives up Hong Kong to mainland - accused of betraying Hong Kongers.

[@rivenadeshizzle]

It is so ironic that it was way easier for someone from Macau than a Hongkonger to move to the UK before Brexit because they are full Portuguese/EU citizens. It's probably why the Macanese are less stressed about what's going on in China - they can easily move to Portugal, France, Sweden, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Italy, Finland, Netherlands, etc. if everything goes to shit in Macau.

[@amazingmoy]

I want to know your thoughts when the 50-year hand over treaty between PRC and UK in 2048.

[@apc9714]

Why there isn't any joke about the the fact that polymatter loves creating contents about China? I'm disappointed

[@diggoran]

Maybe people are getting tired of seeing the same uncreative memes burying the comments actually worth reading

[@isaacwong1465]

no there is

[@nofanfelani6924]

The ads transition at the end was perfect.