Poor Man's Hellcat Ep1: Building The Engine!

[@heavenst.murgatroyd3128]

Now THIS is something I'm going to be glued to at every episode! God Bless You, Sir! 😂

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks for checking it out, it should be fun! 💪

[@crimzonr9371]

Agreed

[@harrisonmoored2358]

@@ReignitedAuto hey do you have a shop number to call and ask more questions

[@rockdem0n]

How am I just seeing this? The algorithm has failed me! I have always loved twin charged cars and wondered how such a setup was actually built this will be a fun series to watch.

[@ReignitedAuto]

You came in at a great time, I just got it on the road a couple weeks ago! 👍

[@Basslightning666]

MOPAR Brotherhood! I'm on board with this build series! Great content, I've learned so much from your channel!

[@andrewdrummond1197]

I personally LOVE the educational videos. This magnum PI playlist is great and has greatly impacted my willingness to work on new car projects I haven’t done before. Please don’t stop the educational videos. Maybe provide more links to other videos where you go in depth on specific tasks. I don’t disagree with shortening episodes but this is my go to channel for car stuff. Thank you for your videos!

[@pierrepoitras1798]

This project is going to have me tuning in every day!!!! Super excited for this. Great job with the camera angles and explanations etc.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Appreciate you watching Pierre, hope it lives up to your expectations! 💪

[@jeremypike9153]

I would definitely use the turbo charger for high rpm boost as in a big turbo setup. The blower should work well making low rpm power.

[@ReignitedAuto]

That is the thought, but I'm a little concerned that my inexperience is going to blow this thing up immediately trying to tune it 😂 Ah well, we learn right?

[@Themoneymigo]

The passion of your first builds made me subscribe and glued to the channel! Man, I can't wait to get my own shop.

[@JDLR956]

Exciting series, perfect formatting. Can’t wait for ep 2. 🤩

[@ReignitedAuto]

Appreciate the kind words my man! 👊

[@moparwill3785]

Will be watching this closely. Can’t wait!

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks for watching my man!

[@imnotthatcreative6894]

Can’t wait for part 2!!!

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks for watching I appreciate it! 👊

[@itsannrg]

A Turbocharger in the Garrett GT40/GT42 range should be suitable when you want to keep it below 1000hp. Big question right now is: do you want to use SC and TC individually for low and high rpm respectively so your SC e.g. will be bypassed at higher rpm? This kind of system is easier in general setup questions (pipes, bypass valves and that kind of stuff), but the software tuning will be challenging regarding transition areas within the maps for a smooth ride quality. If you want to have a dual stage charge system the order of SC and TC is really important. In this case I would put the SC before the TC, because this SC style definitely won't like the high pressure the TC can put out. That way you also enable the TC to reach higher boost pressures in which case it might be a good idea to move to a TC one or two sizes bigger. If you want to see an example from series production, look up the VW 1.4 TSI twincharger engine from the 2000s (not the modern 1.4 TSI). That one is also using both a TC and a SC. But this system idea never made it out of this single engine configuration at VW.

[@DrDurango15]

Love it! Definitely something I can't wait to see finished!

[@ReignitedAuto]

Me either, unfortunately I still have to build it 😄 Thanks for watching!

[@DrDurango15]

@@ReignitedAuto that's the best part. Knowing you made it happen. I love working on things myself.

[@joeperry8518]

This is going to be good it’s time to have some fun! 😎

[@ReignitedAuto]

Hopefully I'll get to take you for a ride in it at some point 👊

[@leeperry1999]

Awesome dude! Stretching the limit of possibilities.

[@michaelgimenez4032]

This is the most exciting video about cars i ever saw, if this works i am doing this on mine! Lead the way Sempai!

[@xusername357]

Bringing some great content to the tube man! Thanks for inspiring me to keep my 2012 charger rt!

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks AJ! Appreciate you watching the build 👊

[@jmt8706official]

I'd love to see a collaboration with Westen Champlin. He added a twin turbo kit to his hellcat charger.

[@The3chordwonder]

Couple more ideas/suggestions. I'd try hand-porting the oil pump and cylinder heads. The oil pump is easy to do and as far as the head goes, if you want to just gasket match, you can (Which is easy) or if you want to challenge yourself, then you can work on the bowls. Since the eagle heads bring more compression, but you're throwing boost at it, you may want to deshroud the valves, which will increase the cc of the heads, bringing down the CR. Of course you could run a thicker head gasket also. If you need more space in the engine bay, you could run an electric water pump and an electric steering rack where the motor is either on the shaft (Saturn Vue/Prius style) or on the rack itself (S550 Mustang style). Either way gets rid of the PS pump. I'm building an LS engine right now, and the bottom end hardware on the hemi is much more stout than the LS. The bolts are thicker, and I think the main caps are bigger (Wider) even though they only run 4 bolts instead of 6.

[@ReignitedAuto]

I'm definitely thinking of ditching the stock power steering pump for an electric unit. Trying to see what kind of room I have first. It's going to be a head scratcher for sure...

[@vhodgesosu]

I would really love to have my 2016 300s hemi supercharged. Maybe one day.. Love the idea here and will watch your progress

[@peterquinlan4934]

super stoked for this one!

[@ReignitedAuto]

Good to see you Peter! 👊

[@solargarage]

As being someone who supercharged a 6.4L in a 2500. I am looking forward to this series.

[@darius9521]

Simply put, pick turbo that meets your needs. Choose compressor side that can deliver enough air for your expected HP goal regardless of the engine set up (SC or non, 4 banger, 6 or v8). Probably 800ish hp? And go with a free flowing turbine side, maybe 1.32 A/R because at lower rpms engine will act as a bigger displacement than a 5.7, around 8 liter equivalent. My guess is at lower/mid rpms the turbo/sc combo will have a compounding effect, but at higher load and rpm turbo will light up and surpass what SC can process. So air will be moving thru the SC but not compressed any further. It'd be good for you to get a professional tuner in on this project

[@Mostvile]

This is a really good test to prove if the ring gap on stock internals really works like has been said. It could really be a game changer for the budget enthusiasts

[@TonySmith-ni7bg]

Well he's opening that gap so there's that

[@joshinnc1520]

Ditch, or cut the hood. Huge intercooler. One after the turbo, and another after the supercharger.

[@Moment2Forever]

This is gunna be crazy

[@ReignitedAuto]

💪

[@cesarmoran7433]

Can't wait to see you do it!

[@HillNorCal]

really looking forward to this build

[@ryanwoolfolk8113]

Very hyped, I’m prepping my 5.7 for stroker and supercharger. Can’t wait for all the info

[@andrewbmaster1852]

I actually put a m112 on a stock 5.7 about a year ago, it made 7psi with stock pulleys and basically no porting, unfortunately it kept shredding belts and i didn't have time to mess with it, ill definitely revisit it at some point, i used an m112 off a 09 range rover sport.

[@TonySmith-ni7bg]

Belt Alignment was probably off

[@ReignitedAuto]

Very cool! Have any pictures of it? If so, send them to me [e-mail] I'd like to check them out. 👍

[@colinrobb3962]

as usual Sky another great episode. My 2006 300C could follow this path

[@robertgreen4050]

This is a fantastic project 👍 I will be tuning in every single video love it

[@nhra7110]

sounds like a very cool project

[@ReignitedAuto]

I like the idea right now, we'll see how I feel about it in a couple months 😄

[@mrkmssr33]

Way to push yourself 👊 Embrace the obstacles and enjoy the results, we’ll be cheering you on! Would love to see expenses on parts you end up using.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Really appreciate you checking in Mark! I don't really know if I want to keep track of the money on this one 😂

[@mrkmssr33]

@@ReignitedAuto Haha totally get that man! Same with my builds lol. Looking forward to the series. 💪

[@MichaelRadelet]

Yes! Very very much interested in a twin charge build. Everybody just slaps turbos on stuff and this is way cooler

[@willa5060]

Thats gonna be interesting, good luck

[@omar1990seattle]

Omg this video will be soooo cool I can't wait to see the final results. I want a supercharger on my hemi and I really want to see this project. Let me make a lot of notes 📝 good job 👏

[@pierrepoitras1798]

This is black magic!!!!

[@slim56]

Very cool project, can’t wait to see how you cram that turbo in.

[@ReignitedAuto]

I'm gonna need some vaseline for sure 😂

[@TheMattzx9]

Great content. Looking forward to seeing this build series.

[@conrailfan6277]

Awesome build, I'm curious to see what you have to do to mate those newer heads to an 06 Hemi!! I have an 06 5.7 R/T Charger so this will be cool Skye!!

[@nickthompson2023]

Idk why Dodge doesn’t go back to the glory days of the Neon. They were great cars, and lots of street guys loved the SRT4. With the push the smaller engines, I’m amazed they haven’t tried to revive it. I’d legit buy one. I had Neons as my first 2 cars and never got a super powered one. Even tho I have my Scat Pack, I’d love to also own a SRT4 with turbos or a super (or in this case, both)

[@ReignitedAuto]

Nick, you might be interested in the project sitting in my driveway right now.... 🤔😎

[@nickthompson2023]

@@ReignitedAuto oh you teasing little bastard

[@MM_in_Havasu]

Great video, thanks for all the good assembly tips!

[@matthewperry7812]

That’s the Skyman I know! 👍

[@derekprice5510]

Great work!! I also had turbo 4s from back in the day. Very interested in the Eagle head swap.

[@davidhenson3372]

Super excited to see this series!!!

[@jacobearhart4170]

Get a 6.1 crank it's the same stroke as a 5.7 but it's forged. Forged pistons as well hypereutectic pistons don't hold up to boost that well

[@ZZZracing]

My 06 awd 300c with a 7875 turbo, e85, and bone stock 180k mile engine/trans has made 470whp@10psi and ran a 10.9@123 in the 1/4 on 12psi. So theres potential, and I think e85 is key keeping the stock pistons alive.

[@zoboas]

Looking forward to it. But I watch all your content anyway lol.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Appreciate it my man! 👊

[@davestewart9146]

This is so awesome, can’t wait to see the next video 👍😁

[@whattheduck4644]

I guess twin charging in gonna become a new KZbin trend for builds lol, ItsJusta6 and Westin Champlin built twin charged Hellcats. Either way, this one interests me more since you're doing all the fabrication for the turbo and blower manifold.

[@The3chordwonder]

The "right" answer depends on where you want the boost. Since it's a PD blower, it's going to make tq everywhere, so you don't really need to make up for poor low speed boost response like a Centrifugal SC. I would size it like this. As far as what the turbo see's, it's going to be the effective engine size of the N/A + SC engine. e.g. the exhaust output will be the 5.7 + whatever you increase it to via boost. Since we know you effectively double the size of the engine every 14.7 psi, you can up the size of the engine and buy your turbo accordingly. I'm guessing you aren't going to build the internals, so I would guess you'd probably run it at around 7 psi, or about 50% larger. So your 5.7 essentially becomes a 8.6L engine. So from there, you can pick your turbo. Of course, all of this said, I think you're just trying to have some fun, and probably trying to do it on the cheap. So I'd honestly just get a GT40 style turbo from vsracing or any of the clones that Richard Holdener has tested. They are dirt cheap, should spool up very quick. They will probably be too small, and end up giving you a lot of backpressure at higher RPM's, but if you're not doing pistons and rods (Personally) I wouldn't spin it beyond the factory limiter anyway. If you want to complicate your life even more, just bolt two of the turbos on and that would probably alleviate the backpressure problem. Very much looking forward to the series.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Tucker, sometimes it's creepy how much we think alike 😄 I already have an email in to VS Racing to see if they want to partner up on this build. 👊

[@dreknd]

you're gonna need one helluva intercooler for this to really work well

[@ReignitedAuto]

That's for sure, even intercooled I imagine my intake air temps are not going to be pretty, but it'll be fun anyway. 👍

[@MrOsfaso]

I’m very much interested in this

[@ReignitedAuto]

Appreciate you watching!

[@FastFoxx82]

The blower doesn't even need to do much a few psi down low and bypass valves divert air to the turbo Run a 70-76 mm turbo

[@richardgarris9305]

Go big or go home 🤘🤘🤘. Didn't expect this video this morning.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks for checking it out my man! 👊

[@richardgarris9305]

Definitely looking forward to future content. Quick question. You mentioned before about the dip stick on the truck blocks needed to be plugged but do the block have a place on the other side for the dip stick to un plug. Noticed you were using a truck block this time so figured I'd ask. Great work. Hope as is well on your end

[@ReignitedAuto]

@@richardgarris9305 I will have to plug the dipstick hole on this block, but when you're using a car style oil pan the dipstick plugs into that rather than the block itself 👍

[@richardgarris9305]

Got ya. I've been trying to do research on that an haven't been able to figure it out. Thanks for that info. 🤘🤘🤘

[@tomcooper920]

This is going to be fun to see built. Great idea! One thing I picked up on this video that I never have before is that the mains are a cross bolt design. That really does beef up the bottom end. It shouldn't care at all about boost. Has the gen 3 Hemis always been cross bolted?

[@ReignitedAuto]

Yep, Gen 3 Hemi engines have always been cross bolted, it's definitely a pretty strong design, but almost every engine uses it now. Appreciate you watching Tom, let's do this! 💪

[@billyhickman1591]

This is awesome! I can't wait to go through these videos as I would love to do this to one of my dodges that recently failed. But I need some advice. Can I reach out to you for questions?

[@Edsrt-]

This should be interesting 🤔 👍👍

[@ReignitedAuto]

And frustrating 😄 Thanks for checking it out!

[@BclarkGB]

would james long happen to have a website, was also looking to go the turbo super charge route for my magnum build

[@Rrottweiler]

First i was like, Haha good joke. Then, omg he is rly making it... :D

[@ReignitedAuto]

💪

[@oliverthreshie3190]

Thanks for the exciting build! Very curious where you're going to put the intercooler(s)! Crazy idea, move the wiper fluid reservoir and pump to the trunk... Does the car need wiper fluid anyway? :D

[@williamlawrence7442]

I'm getting a p2302 misfire for cylinder 1 and I have checked the lifters and they are working fine. Would the pcm be the problem

[@mbaladon]

Nice project! Don't you actually want to lower the compression ratio a bit instead of raising it? Otherwise you are going to have to use super high octane fuel and super stout internals. The cylinder pressures are going to be insane. What is the target boost, compression ratio and fuel octane?

[@BWADaniel]

He should be okay. You typically won’t need to change to a better gas with higher compression unless the compression is WAY higher. Stock compression, even on one that’s been bored out, you should definitely be okay. Even on my 4 wheeler, stock compression is 9:1. People use pump gas up until 12:1 compression. My piston is rated for Pump or Race Gas.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Yep, as I'll go over in the next video it basically is only bumping the compression one point from 9.6 to 10.5 and that's still definitely in a useable range. 👍 Target boost is a good question, I don't think I want to go over 15psi at the start, then work my way up from there.

[@mbaladon]

@@ReignitedAuto Isn't the stock compression already 10.5 in the 5.7? The Hellcat has a 9.5:1 and Chevy's LT4 is 10:1 so I would have thought to go down a bit instead of up. Anyway, looking forward to the next one!

[@ReignitedAuto]

@@mbaladon On the pre 2009 engines it's 9.6 and when they changed to the eagle heads it bumped to 10.5, if it were 11.5 or over I'd be more concerned, but as mentioned, this is kind of a sacrificial engine 😄

[@nanperry1064]

I like it!

[@robertmccully2792]

I just came on board, did you measure for bearings, why did you leave that out?

[@ReignitedAuto]

Pretty much all of my builds I'm using a factory short block, and the Hemi engine does not use selectable bearings, so there's really only one size to use. If the crank had been machined at all I'd be checking bearing clearances, but with factory parts, just replace and go. Thanks for watching Robert!

[@douglasshriver52]

good info

[@big3fan916]

Part A of my comment would be did you consider starting with a Indy mod-man intake ? Part B would be it would be easier to package in the C-10 , just saying lol

[@ReignitedAuto]

I didn't even know those manifolds existed 😂 very interesting though. And initially the plan was to twin turbo the C10, but I realized I kinda like that truck as it is, and I thought the Magnum might generate more interest among the Mopar faithful. I'm sure I'll live to regret this idea though lol.

[@BrianH989]

so ive been looking at junkyard hemi's to rebuild both for my 2004 ram and for side project engine swaps. but i was curious, how similar would a hemi be from say a 2006 300 and a 2006 ram? would i be able to put a ram hemi into a project car and have it still act like a 300 hemi? also curious because i want to do a mild cam on my current ram 1500 and i dont know if i should get a cam for a challenger or do i need a ram specific cam. i know its a long question and i appreciate you taking the time to respond to so many people.

[@Kevin-be7ow]

New video!!!!

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks for watching!

[@neilchilders5442]

I need some info on the NAG 5 speed trans. Can I replace my truck 5speed with a car 5 speed? I don't like the weird 3rd gear in the truck transmissions and would rather have a normal 3rd gear because it doesnt suit my driving habits and how i use my truck. Would the truck computer need to be tuned for a car trans? I have a 2010 Ram 1500. I love watching your content on KZbin. You are full of very valuable information and tips on these Hemi engines. Your information on the 3rd gen oil pumps helped me out a lot. I'll see well over 200,000 miles because of it. By the way, this truck has 191,000 on it now with the original cam and lifters, although i had the mds turned off at 135,000.

[@ReignitedAuto]

It could potentially be done, but it would be a nightmare to make it all work. The NAG actually has a separate TCM controller whereas the stock trans computer is built into the PCM. Getting everything to talk properly would be very difficult. As an alternative I would think about changing your rear gear ratio, this could effectively change the way 3rd gear feels overall. 👍

[@procallgears8490]

You should take a pro charger make it Force air into the exhaust of a turbocharger instead of using like normal food for thought

[@TristynRusselo]

move the battery to the trunk. more room.

[@ReignitedAuto]

Unfortunately it's already in the trunk factory! I think I'll be moving the coolant expansion tank, not sure to where just yet, but it looks like the easiest option to get some additional room.

[@Naleeze]

i ❤️ these videos

[@ReignitedAuto]

Thanks for watching!

[@Eightball2516]

Do you have to torque in a specific order

[@ReignitedAuto]

As far as which main cap to start with? If so, no you can realistically start with any of them. I'd also torque the main bolts first, then torque the cross bolts after that. 👍

[@InventiveGuess]

How could I get a set of those intake manifold plates? How much?

[@greazedlightninggarage6768]

Sweet! What or who will you be using for tuning?

[@ReignitedAuto]

The idea right now is to use HPTuners, and I'd like to try doing it myself, but we'll see how horribly wrong that goes. 😄

[@MrOsfaso]

Can I add more power (supercharger) to my 5.7 dodge magnum without deactivate the mds(4 cylinder mode) system?

[@gregoryrobinson1004]

Do he sell those intake plates as I need them

[@gilhernandez605]

What would be the part # for NON-MDS lifters?

[@kailuagarage]

Would it be prudent to measure the bearing clearance?

[@ReignitedAuto]

Generally if I had machine work done to the crank I'd definitely be checking the bearing clearances. As it is, with a stock crank and stock block, I've checked several before and they always measure out correctly, so I'm comfortable just slapping in a new set of stock size bearings. 👍

[@kailuagarage]

@@ReignitedAuto I have read on the internet (so it must be true) that some guys try to keep the clearance on the high end of the spec for boosted applications and my even try to get 0.0005 over that. Not sure how much a new set of bearings vary ...

[@sethoverly1178]

I have a question completely unrelated to the video other than the fact I have Hemi question, I’m looking to cam my 08 hemi charger with the comp cams hrt stage 2 220/230. What all do I need to do to disable the mds? Is it as simple as buying the block off plugs and putting them in the mds solenoid holes?

[@ReignitedAuto]

Unfortunately no, but you can go one of two ways. Either you keep the solenoids in place and just buy a tuner to turn the system off, or you remove the solenoids, replace all the lifters with non MDS lifters, and then buy a tuner to turn the system off. I personally think it's better to remove it entirely since you'll get better oil flow through the lifter bores. But obviously it's more expensive and more work.

[@sethoverly1178]

@@ReignitedAuto alright cool, thank you very much. Would i also need to buy the block off plugs after removing the solenoids or would it be fine leaving that space open?

[@ReignitedAuto]

@@sethoverly1178 gotta buy the plugs, otherwise oil would be spraying out 👍

[@javonwesley4335]

I need help doing the same thing

[@gilhernandez605]

Do you refer the Melling oil pump over the Hellcat and if so why?

[@Rrottweiler]

03-08 block must use Melling high volume, because Hellcat pump dont fit.

[@gilhernandez605]

@@Rrottweiler Did he mention the block was an 03-08?

[@ReignitedAuto]

Yessir that's correct, this is a 2006 ram 1500 block, so that's why I went with the Melling high volume pump 👍 2009+ I'd go with the Hellcat for sure.

[@vzopresidential788]

what kind of supercharger is that

[@ReignitedAuto]

Eaton M112 that came on the 03-04 mustang cobra 👍

[@vzopresidential788]

@@ReignitedAuto how much power you think that alone will give to the 5.7

[@ReignitedAuto]

@VzoPresidential honestly I'm not sure. I suspect if you picked up 100hp you'd be doing pretty well.

[@crimzonr9371]

Be a different setup for my Daytona

[@samhianblackmoon]

🔥👍🏽

[@think1stproductions]

This is so bad azz!!!! 🤔🚫🧢🎬💯💪😈🚛☁️🔋📽🤘☎️📸

[@kbcarroll]

"poor man's hellcat"??? just buy a 2005-2006 E55 AMG

[@ReignitedAuto]

I'm not into mental deprivation like owning a Mercedes 😉

[@kbcarroll]

@@ReignitedAuto 😆