Pop Culture Historians Analyze the 2025 Grammy Nominations 👀 ... 🐍 Evolution of a Snake Podcast

[@theswiftologist]

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[@crystalvibes2122]

Chappell Roan and The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess deserves multiple Grammys that is all I know.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

The album came out in September 2023, it’s not eligible, too old. People are just now finding it.

[@gregorylafary9624]

@@taylorgayhart9497The nominations already happened Rise and Fall is guaranteed nominated for AOTY and Best Pop Vocal Album. It was released one week into this year’s eligibility window.

[@finslaw]

@@taylorgayhart9497 It is like 1-2 weeks past the time slot, so eligible.

[@borntobesuburbanlegends]

@@taylorgayhart9497it’s nominated lol so yes it is eligible

[@ashbieri]

@@taylorgayhart9497it’s literally nominated for AOTY? Lol

[@swiftieswiffer7649]

zach saying “you should be dead” every time madeline disagrees with him 😭😭

[@eldanutz]

I fear people don't understand how funny it would be if Andre 3000 won AOTY

[@rachelh1445]

The memes of all the faces in the audience after he’s announced as winner would be worth it 😂😂💯

[@Marie78173]

Rooting for him

[@alick7825]

Oh people would be maaaaad

[@anuradhalagna2424]

I genuinely think he will

[@annaphallactic]

Honestly that would be bloody amazing, as much as I'm rooting for Chappell. I'm a huge Outkast fan and he's talked so much about the intense imposter syndrome he's experienced since they split. I would love for him to win and then regain the confidence to drop that rap album about colonoscopies that he keeps threatening to make 😂

[@Unionite2011]

"Midnights stole Tortured Poets' album of the year." I couldn't agree more. If only one of the two can get AOTY, I think TTPD deserves it more. But it had the misfortune of being released second, and Midnights further benefitted from the popularity of the Eras tour and Taylor being THE MOMENT in 2023.

[@ComanClaudiu-cu1rb]

Same with Folklore and Evermore

[@tarathoughts13]

Same. I’ve always said that for the 2024 Grammys, midnights didn’t deserve it, but Taylor Swift did. The tortured poets department, while having its flaws, feels more complete of a project and has a more definitive conclusion than midnights, the whole message being: the story is over, moving on to the next act.

[@javilex452]

No. As a midnights fan, you made me hate TTPD even more.

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

erm I dont think TTPD or MIDnights deserve AOTY they are both kind of generic and overdone

[@max_sch4462]

Definitely not. People already argued that Midnights shouldn't have won, but I'm ok with that. However, nobody except Swifties cared about or wants TTPD to win. That was different with Midnights.

[@Hannah_jo25]

To me Eternal Sunshine’s biggest snub was Best Music Video for We Can’t Be Friends. That music video was so beautiful. Stronger than Fortnight in performance, story, how it represents the albums mission statement, cinematography like all of it.

[@Marie78173]

@@Hannah_jo25 THISSS

[@singingwithbecca]

Absolutely agreed

[@tabathaarria9558]

speak. it. louder

[@phenphentaylorsversion3719]

YESSS WCBF DESERVES THAT NOMINATION AND WIN

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

E X A C T L Y how was it not nominated

[@MaximSchnabel]

I am so rooting for a Chappell Sweep. She is so deserving of these awards. She shot into the sky like a rocket and she’s not coming down. I mean, the genius of songs like Red Wine Supernova, My Kink Is Karma, Good Luck, Babe! etc. is unmatched. Additionally, her style of singing is so immaculate and so unique, and she just really provided a literal masterpiece with Midwest Princess!!!!

[@matangihealingbyjaya886]

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

[@xxxkunti]

she's outta nowhere, perform at coachella and drop miss good luck, babe! rupaul impression of her at coachella is the first introduce to wider lgbt community so we know all her song, i watch hottogo at 2 million views and now is 30 million , even sabrina said chappel is her close rival in multi award nomination, sabrina would SWEEP all the nomination lets be real, but we cant stop the unstoppable object

[@Cassandra_17]

❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@phenphentaylorsversion3719]

YESS

[@greenthumbpageturner1650]

Blackbird was included because it was inspired by the Civil Rights Movement. Beyonce included other black country artists to sing this song with her since so many have been excluded in the country genre.

[@Marie78173]

100%

[@jackydenton9974]

I cried the first time I heard it, it was just so beautifully sang.

[@rachellejones6254]

Also… Paul McCarthy wrote the song after he went to Alabama in 1968. After seeing a SA abuse with a black woman, he could really see the civil rights in America.

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

yesssssssss its so amazing

[@norse1585]

If TTPD wins people are gonna be SO mad, the academy must know that

[@Isabeltiful_da_bel]

Would we be happy? Well yes.

[@akashvalsan6609]

Well I want people to be mad. 😈

[@LostinTranslation479]

If it wins I will be a Mad Woman.

[@beingthisyoungisart13]

@@LostinTranslation479cricket

[@bluedolphin814]

Wish they knew that a year ago so that midnights wouldn’t steal its aoty 😭

[@milaces1323]

I know we're here for the girlies, but Hozier being snubbed is a CRIME. Too Sweet should've been nominated for song of the year. Love you guys ❤❤❤

[@beingthisyoungisart13]

THANK 👏 YOU 👏

[@jessloo5969]

Not enough people are mad about this.

[@n-3262]

The entirety of his latest work is amazing 😭

[@marsarson3620]

I swear the grammys just hate Hozier💀💀

[@milaces1323]

@n-3262 Well, yes!

[@magpie4054]

Still stuck on Hozier being snubbed for a SOTY nom, Too Sweet was EVERYWHERE

[@muskaan3711]

Fr i love that song

[@muskaan3711]

Fr i love that song

[@sydney3656]

erm..

[@tarathoughts13]

Hozier is a true genius and I think he deserves his Grammys immediately, his songwriting is on par with Taylor (and in some areas I think he’s a bit better) and he deserves as much success as Taylor

[@LK1989]

I think the reason why we don't have more visuals for TTPD is because since Taylor started directing, she's had a problem with NOT directing. People can say "oh she didn't have time", but I think if she had delegated the music videos to other directors and let them handle that process, it would have been possible.

[@busydog127]

oh btw for 21:51 about the blackbird beatles cover. the song was written by the beatles members and sung as a tribute to black women and the civil rights movement. so beyonce having herself and all these other black female country artists on this song is almost showing that althought the country ppl and genre dont accept them theyre going to still going to rise up and take their spots in the genre.

[@raecakes079]

the way you talk about finneas and billie working together is exactly how i feel about taylor and jack!! i need both of them to move on and for taylor to use real instruments again 😭

[@taylorcorder7204]

Same 😭

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

no but fr

[@BlueMoon-io9eh]

Chappell deserves Best New Artist. Period. Eternal Sunshine not getting an album of the year nom for is already the snub of the decade. I predicted a pop vocal nom for SnS but I'm shocked she snagged an aoty.

[@smoothshawty5746]

well yes

[@theswiftologist]

snub of the decade might be a slight overreaction slkdfskdnfjsd

[@busydog127]

snub of the decade?? okay lets relax now LMAOOOO

[@Li_Tobler]

@@busydog127 right? Finally some sensibility here

[@loadishstone]

I would honestly be happy if Chappell sweep. She deserves it and it will give me so much happiness to get revenge on all the hate she gets online from you-know-whos.

[@richmaxmchalliwchester1984]

Taylor did submit The Eras Tour Movie for Best Music Film. In my opinion this was the biggest snub of the year, even bigger snub than Ariana with Eternal Sunshine and We Can't Be Friends. In my opinion they didn't even nominate her because it would've been a guaranteed win for her. In my opinion The Eras Tour Movie snub is the same case as when All Too Well (10 Minute Version) didn't win Song Of The Year. We have to keep in mind that the Grammy committee are industry people. Both with Taylor's Versions and The Eras Tour Movie Taylor went against the music industry system to both prove a point and be in full control of her career. If they let her win it would basically confirm she is right and and would motivate more artists to do the same as her. Record labels and industry executives won't give up their power that easily, so they snubbed her.

[@jillsarah7356]

THIS

[@busydog127]

beyonce taylor or gaga all shoulve gotten a nom for their concert films

[@rebeccapayton2080]

They snub her to keep her coming back. Its horrid

[@sayu403]

@@busydog127 true but bey didn't submit hers

[@Aleee89]

Your explanation makes a lot of sense but I NEED the academy to explain why. This bamboozled me.

[@earoothadtargaryen1986]

Oh girly… Blackbiird is on there as a tribute to black women as the song was written for black women during the civil rights movement, here having different black women of country singing with her to promote freedom and solidarity for black women within this genre.

[@zarario4444]

Did Beyonce tell you that?

[@loadishstone]

@@zarario4444 I mean they are literally giving you the context for how blackbird was written by Paul McCartney. Do you think she included that after American Requiem for no reason? I always feel majorly uncomfortable in Swifty spaces because black artists always get weird comments like this, but you’ll swallow any analysis about Swift as gospel.

[@carlosgomezjimenez4458]

@@zarario4444 bitch it's literally a fact, do some research dummy

[@Andrea.df.]

​@@zarario4444a comment like this coming from a swiftie is hilarious 💀😭 swifties literally believe any meth math nonsense cooked up on twitter about Taylor's decisions and art but sit here and question the most obvious interpretation of another artist decisions and art lmao

[@taysamo]

sure, doesn't make it good

[@OliverCurtis2010]

ok but zach's hair grown out GIVES DIVA. someone stan me with this.

[@theswiftologist]

[@LostinTranslation479]

It's giving DIVA UP

[@leximcgranahan6271]

he is definitely not down bad, he is up GOOD with the long hair!

[@Einhornsunicorns]

DONE

[@e.B.FanFic]

Agreed!

[@soaribb32]

I need Kendrick to win something for cancelling Drake by himself, I mean...

[@Li_Tobler]

Wasn't Megan the one who started it? She was robbed this year

[@HipHopheaded]

@@Li_Toblershe was

[@sydneyprather8668]

@@Li_Toblershe did but then Nicki made it about herself and distracted from the true message

[@max_sch4462]

He didn't cancel Drake lol, he just won the beef. Both had major allegations against each other without delivering any proof.

[@pnkwtch]

2019 grammies x ariana lore is WILD. because not only was there a feud with the producers that led to her not attending, but she also said f the grammys because that was the year that they invited mac miller’s parents for his nomination (and they went), even though he wasn’t going to win. it was quite the year. she had a stunning dress prepared and everything.

[@Einhornsunicorns]

I absolutely love that at 1:13:31 Zach says “it’s a feeling everyone can relate to” in regards to Chappell Roan and Madeline’s cat right after is like “meow period”

[@arvolyptus4631]

It’s a clap for any female AOTY winner this year honestly. But a Chappell sweep is truly the dream

[@theswiftologist]

thats what im saying

[@RedPaperStudies]

TTPD didn't receive the right treatment . It could've been AOTY but all she gave for the non-swifties was fucking Fortnight!!! Why????? If she knew there was only going to be one single Why not Guilty as Sin ? Why not Down Bad? Why not I CAN DO IT WITH A BROKEN HEART????? Im sorry but I had to get it out

[@RivlasYT]

Honestly…I like ICDIWABH is a great song but she would’ve killed the charts if “Down Bad” was a single. The chorus is simple & an earworm… it’s a catchy pop song without being generic & I think it would’ve done very good on radio. I would choose “Guilty as Sin?” But I think the non swifties wouldn’t get it without the lore, unfortunately

[@leathebarbie]

Fortnight is an ethereal masterpiece screw down bad lollll

[@ralphcorneliuscastro]

For me, I feel like the Record of the Year and Song of the Year nominated would've been The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived or loml.

[@elizabethg2136]

@@RivlasYT I agree Down Bad is a far more interesting and uniquely catchy song than Fortnight, but I think it couldn’t be a radio single because the clean version is what would be played in public spaces and the clean version’s chorus does not hit (for me at least).

[@tarathoughts13]

@RivlasYTgod she could’ve done down bad with an mv with cool alien visuals and then do the icdwabh tour mv or do a separate visualiser for it.

[@jamiekay3650]

20:08 totally disagree about Cowboy Carter not being infused with Beyonce as a person and artist. Throughout the album, she is telling you this IS who she is, her heritage, what she has felt and been through. I feel so much of her personality and passion throughout the album. I think she is more Beyonce than she’s ever been on this album, bringing together the Texas girl with Creole roots with everything she’s felt and been through, and a range of genres to express it.

[@阑肖恩]

cant agree more, cc is more personal and private than renaissance, the touching points are everywhere, i really hate it when ppl say beyonce doesnt told her story or showing her personality to the mass, like come on, she told everything through her music

[@meagans5927]

I came to the comment section to express a different viewpoint on Cowboy Carter and Beyonce than was presented. I am glad so see the comments here. The longest conversation was about this album and I'm sorry to say I had to skip so much of it because I found myself getting frustrated that a large part of the album was being missed. This album is a letter to America that we are a racist country and we need to address it or we are going to die. It is a story of her history, her ancestors history, her struggles, her hopes. CC is 100% about her, and it is a conversation about America's greatest sin, racism. She does it while taking sounds that have been connected to white artist (including 60s and 70s pop and rock) and making them her own and at the same time claiming that these sounds would not be possible without Black America, because Black America is interwoven in American history, not separate from it. In my opinion, this album is the smartest and most challenging in her career. she is not only pushing music boundaries, she created a dissertation on race. I love this channel, and I love you guys - I just wanted to share a different perspective on what I got out of the album

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

@@meagans5927 EXACTLYYYYYY

[@pinkmapviolin]

Absolutely agree!

[@e.B.FanFic]

"A song about FINGERS!!" 😂😂 that is a way to refer to Thumbs 🤷🏻‍♀️ that's the first of hers that I heard too!

[@Marie78173]

It's so good and underrated

[@alishamertelus1340]

The fact that she hates that song now😭😭😭

[@ermkayyy]

I’m SO with Zach on Eternal Sunshine getting snubbed 😭

[@bratzscene3131]

like it's literally her best record and they didn't even nominate it, wth. WCBF also not being nominated but Now and Then or even 360 is...literally if any other person had released WCBF it would've gotten 3 noms lol

[@MoMo-ke1iq]

Actual BS that politics got in the way of judging art. Then again, it’s always been like that

[@bradencardoso5804]

It’s still crazy to me how we can’t be friends didn’t get any noms at all

[@Marie78173]

Same the snub is insane

[@emmazen466]

Desperately needed a video to watch while completing my assignment 😭 thanks diva

[@theswiftologist]

but ofc

[@pain-baguette-r1i]

you're so real for that i can't complete my assignments without a swiftologist video 🙏

[@NancyRamirez-mb9ul]

Meanwhile Katy Perry is in Mexico on a show nobody watches called "Venga la Alegría", having her pre-sale with a bank that nobody has a credit card from. What ... 😅

[@gis_n_n615]

Omg all the memes about Katy in Mexico saying she's paying some kind of karma and all I can think of is "Tayvoodoo"

[@anitacacosta17acosta9]

It was no tayvoodoo this time. Its what she gets for being awful to her own fans. Latam loves taylor and she did greats concerts here and was very nice to people. Latam loved katy perry the same and in that show she was being awful and hating that they gave her more air time. Like she is too good to be there. Younger people are more aware now.

[@binkbonl]

It is a bit painful to hear yt people talk about Blackbird not making sense. There are 4 black women singing on that record, 3 are solidified country artists. She opens the album with 4 black women singing about loss and hope on a country album. Do yall know what the song is about? I’m personally rooting for Midwest Princess for AOTY, but Cowboy Carter is literally about history. There are so many beautiful historical musical choices and stories weaved into the actual music. But it’s Black American musical history which was a specific choice. It’s for its audience. Also Shaboozey is black man in country, he’s facing a lot more and isn’t having it easy just cause, “he’s a man”

[@carlosgomezjimenez4458]

THANK YOU, these two whities are just so annoying listening to them talking about cowboy carter.

[@JessMarin471]

CLOCK IT

[@MonikaGeca]

@@bubblegumnnebulato my understanding Zach went to University in US and is very well educated person, so he should know. I am Polish and even I know the US history. Maybe he didn’t pay enough attention to it

[@presleyvasquez5000]

I think what he was trying to say is that he wanted to hear something other than a cover maybe something original

[@theswiftologist]

I keep seeing this comment and like, yes I understand this significance behind it, if you watch my Cowboy Carter reaction video I'm pretty sure I mentioned it there. I read all the Cowboy Carter reviews and listened to everyone's take on it. I just don't think that on an already long & somewhat overwrought album, this was the best way to open up the record. That's just a track-listing opinion/comment on the length of the overall work. I don't doubt or misunderstand the purpose behind it.

[@JillianLachcik]

I am a casual Taylor fan, but absolutely love listening to your content!! also as a huge Ari fan thank you for mentioning the wcbf snub lol 😂❤️

[@rachelh1445]

Drake doesn’t submit any of his work to the Grammys anymore so it would be SO petty of the awards committee to give this award to Kendrick. It’s a great song and I would be so excited to see Kendrick recognized for his moment. The pettiness would be just be icing on the cake.

[@starlightt133]

i think it's honestly gonna be pretty close this time! a lot of good albums!

[@uaerndjd4244]

idk if this is tmi and i'm sorry if it is but i know you read comments often and i hope you read this one - recently a war broke out in my country and the situation has been so dire and disgusting and i'm hitting a new low everyday, and one of the few escapes i have from my reality is your channel and your content. you have a gift for entertaining and i hope this channel grows exponentially, thank you for your work! ❤

[@muskaan3711]

I hope you and your loved ones are safe!!

[@taysamo]

stay safe sweetie❤

[@JessMarin471]

Stay safe!!

[@BirkneshHerreid]

Praying for you, hope you and everyone you love stays safe!

[@hs.1653]

sending you love and safety 🫶

[@champagnemoonlight4196]

My opinion on Ariana. The Grammys is a respected award ceremony. If she has been very public about disrespecting them, and they continue to nominate her, it opens the door for disrespect among all artist towards the Grammys. This could be a clear sign that if you are vocal about not caring about the Grammys then they are going to reciprocate that feeling.. this can motivate future artist to bite their tongue in the future .

[@Marie78173]

Grammys should be objective though, it's all about the music and not how artist behave. And they reinforced this feeling again this year when the CEO sent grammy voters a letter saying this sooooo if it's that it says more about them than her. If her work is submitted then they should only lok at the material she's giving and what she brought to music and not personal drama and things like this.

[@rydbthatsme]

She’s also just a horrible person

[@bratzscene3131]

@@Marie78173exactly. Additionally THEY were in the wrong and she defended herself, so punishing her for standing her ground by not nominating some of her best work is absolutely insane

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

well Charli has beef with the scammys and she was nominated sooooooooooooo

[@Moony_Xp]

Guilty as Sin has me in a chokehold I fear 🥀✨💋

[@NemesiaVicuna]

I know it's been 8 years but I still think Lemonade was Beyonce's BEST album and I'll never get over it not winning album of the year.

[@jashparikh2689]

The academy always gives Taylor a AOTY after a gap of like 2-4 years and not on consecutive albums otherwise people ( no swifties ) would be mad

[@jacksonmartin7864]

I personally don’t think she deserves it this year. HMHAS, SNS, and tRAFOAMP, were all better albums

[@lukenaidoo208]

I dont think Cowboy Carter will win AOTY, but i think there is a much stronger chance that she will win ROTY

[@shehrbanoali2755]

i think aoty wld goto hmhas and roty to texas hold em

[@MissteriousMisstress]

Madeline: diagrees about ariana Zach: you should be dead 😂😂😂

[@sh4d0wbr4wl8]

Midnights winning AOTY at the 2024 Grammys is still a bit confusing to me. Obviously I love that Taylor won AOTY again and broke a record, but Midnights seems like an outlier compared to the other 3 albums that won (Fearless, 1989 and folklore: 3 different genres, 3 different decades, 3 amazing albums) and if I was gonna swap Midnights out for another Taylor album for AOTY it would be either Red or TTPD. I think why Midnights might have won AOTY (and why TTPD probably won't win) is to do with the context surrounding the release of the album. Midnights was a surprise to everyone because not only did she announce it at an award show we just got 2 Taylor's Version projects in 2021 and no one was expecting the next project to be a brand new album. Also, Midnights made Taylor the first and only artist to take over the entire top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 and Midnights had the novelty of the Eras Tour to help promote it (especially since at the start it was THE baby of the TS discography family). With TTPD, we saw all of these things again. She announced it at an award show after putting out another 2 Taylor's Version projects in 2023, it took over the top 10 of the hot 100 and was added to the Eras Tour setlist. Because we had the same pattern happen again with TTPD that happened with Midnights I think that probably made all the non-swifties and Taylor haters be fed up with TTPD and not give it the love it deserves. Apologies for the long message. Hope you have a good day 😊

[@leathebarbie]

Midnights perfectly makes sense as an album of the year. Every AOTY win for Taylor taps into a new genre. Midnights is a polished bedroom pop record, 1989 is a polished synth pop record, Folklore is a polished alternative record, and Fearless is a polished country pop record. All of her other albums fail to belong to a cohesive sound, which is why they didn’t win in my opinion.

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

yeah I agree same with TTPD they don't have the magic of the 3 AOTY she already has

[@snarkycharlies]

Album of the Year is stacked this year! Anyone who wins it deserves it.

[@emmajacobs3052]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!! my new fav youtube channel, i love your honest commentary. thank you both for all your hard work and consistent high quality content :)

[@chemana-h6g]

Charli literally has beef with the grammys since YEARS and threatened to b0mb them in spring breakers and still got nominated 😂😂😂

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

Spring Breakers was a threat lmao

[@emmazen466]

16:41 she ate that lana del rey impression wtf !?!?

[@soaribb32]

SNL had a boost in ratings thanks to Chappell, I've never seen anything like that. I'm rooting for my midwestern princess.

[@esther3237]

Madeline is very very right about Von Dutch

[@heatherhensley9183]

Imho we can’t be friends way better than 360

[@Goat.Cheese]

Same! In general, I preferred Eternal Sunshine over Brat as an album. I also think We Can't Be Friends is better than 360. But, it's definitely subjective!

[@laura-kb3ej]

be fr

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

I agreeeeeeee tho

[@Tillyhannthomas]

I'm so glad you mentioned Ashe - she is one of my all time faves, I find her music very comforting

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

sameeee

[@mincej79]

I agree. I love Von Dutch too! AND it is nominated for the remix version, which is amazing!!

[@the_piano_nerd4960]

Another project I would’ve loved to get a Grammy nod or two is Older by Lizzy McAlpine. It’s a bit of a departure from her earlier work, but once I gave it a chance it drew me in with its evocative lyricism and subtle musicality. A stellar record if you give it time to sit (And for any fans of Ryan Beatty’s Calico, Lizzy recorded this album with the band he toured with. One of the best live shows I’ve ever been to and my favorite album of 2023)

[@dominika3897]

1 hour and half and i know i would still watch this if it was 5 hours long, what a nice treat for this cold evening thank you can wait to hear what you have to say!

[@Midnight-swiftieDM]

Madeline: "I don't feel that way" Zach: "Cricket 🤨😒" Zach: well you should be DEAD 😑

[@jamiekay3650]

21:48 Blackbird was written about black women in the civil rights movement. And now it’s sung by black women who are largely ignored in country music. That’s why it’s there.

[@annabelleblakemore6728]

Im about to tweak at “what does cowboy Carter actually say about Beyoncé?” Guys guys please please be serious, pay attention to the material, lock in🙏

[@阑肖恩]

yeh, they definitely didnt listen to ccs lyrics, what a disappointment

[@singingwithbecca]

The Billie's HMHAS album slander makes me so sad cuz that was my absolute hands down favourite album that came out this year (WHICH I SAYING A LOT CUZ SO MANY PHENOMENAL ALBUMS WERE RELEASED THIS YEAR)... I think it deserves all the awards and obviously I know that's not what yall think but idk it's such a good album imo

[@hassanmansour9857]

Same, its her best album by FAR imo. Wildflower, the greatest, blue are all top tier songs of 2024.

[@singingwithbecca]

@@hassanmansour9857 Literally!! Those are my favs too alongside Lunch and L'amour de ma vie, but the whole album is amazing!! I know it's gonna be my top album in spotify wrapped for sure

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

SAMEEEEE

[@tarathoughts13]

Here’s the thing. It’s not a bad album, but imo, the album focuses much more on vibes and atmosphere than actual lyrical substance. And while I liked some of the production, I also get what Zach siad when he said that it felt like the same thing she’s been doing.

[@singingwithbecca]

@tarathoughts13 Ok I can understand and respect that. I personally just had such a big change in my life happening during that album which connected me even more to it and I guess that just makes me incredibly biased 😭🫶

[@summerchild_]

Short and Sweet is a great album but is a really unserious proyect, what makes it refreshing and fun and memorable. But the grammy's are serious and they themselves too seriously idk

[@matangihealingbyjaya886]

I attended weekend 2 of Austin City Limits back in oct 2024 , there were about 90K people in attendance for Chappell's set at 6:45 PM. more than half of them were standing there for hours in scotching heat of Texas (it was 100 degree F that day) fainting yet not leaving their spots. Most were there since the time gates of the festival opened in Morning at 10:30 AM. Can anyone else nominated in the new artiste category pull this kind of crowd.

[@chemana-h6g]

they can’t she’s literally the only one doing this

[@meghansullivan6812]

i literally cried watching it on youtube. so cool u were there! so scary to hear how hot it was that day tho

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

N O O N E E L S E Also I feel like Chappell is a lot more "accessible" that say Sabrina cus she doesn't have a huuuuuuuge budget and performs at festivals and and smaller venues

[@athenabo6858]

Zachhhh 4:57 a perfect timing to say, well... we can't be friends

[@kianna270]

Been going thru a ROUGH time and yall never fucking fail to make me laugh my ass off for an hour and just forget abt the dumb shit that is life. Thank you for the more frequent uploads recently ❤

[@BaleighWeirum]

Okayyy I also saw the acapella of Good Luck Babe, and I was also in tears!!! It was so good!!!

[@meghansullivan6812]

54:40 i feel like chappell is always gonna have her slower songs tho that she deeply connects with and she'll surprise us w the bangers later on down the road/on the album. also as a girl girlie, the lyrics be hitting!!!!

[@meghansullivan6812]

*gay* girlie hehe

[@annastimac6357]

Zack pls don’t block me but sometimes I think you interrupt Madeline maybe that’s just because I ride so hard for lizard but it something I have noticed maybe you’re caffeinated af idk ilysm

[@muskaan3711]

Yes I've noticed this too but was afraid to say it lol.

[@VEGAS-NERVE]

He does but I don’t think it’s a major issue since they’re like super good friends and have been for a long time. If this was like a random guest on a podcast then I would see interrupting her as being more rude.

[@sanjomaz]

Chappell not getting “best new artist” would be the giant elephant in the room for the academy, personally, because she’s had an incredible year and skyrocketed this debut album with very little marketing influence from the actual industry,, and not that many artists can say that. Sabrina Carpenter doesn’t define “best new artist” for me as much as Chappell. Sabrina had her time for artistic growth in 2014-2022 and released a number of albums to show the world what she could do and it just didn’t stick with the academy. If there was a “best comeback artist” award this year, sure it would go to her, but I wouldn’t give her “best new artist”.

[@user-qb5dd6lq2p]

No Kali Uchis (in mainstream categories) IS HORRENDOUS!!

[@meganbee6859]

One of my favourite things about video episodes is the subtle side eye from Zack everytime we hear Madeline's cat 😂

[@Li_Tobler]

What why, did the cat do something?

[@meganbee6859]

@Li_Tobler you can just hear little occasional meows lol. It's not a bad look, I just always notice.

[@Li_Tobler]

@@meganbee6859 oh, now I'll keep an eye for that too! I just thought that a side-eye automatically means something shady or bad. Sorry, not a native speaker 😅😞

[@meghansullivan6812]

@@Li_Tobler honestly it typically does imply smhg bad. i think OP just used it in a different way and im glad she pointed it out cuz now im totally gonna keep an eye out for it too haha

[@Sara01977]

No matter how technically “good” an album is on paper, if it doesn’t resonate with people, in majority, it’s not going to get nominated. That’s how i feel about Ariana’s so called “snub.” The internet is obsessed with that album but talking to actual friends and family, nobody cared about that album after first listen. I personally found it pretty boring. Taylor and Billie keep getting noms year after year not only because great work but because people relate to the music and vibe with those songs on some level. I think that’s why Chappell and Charlie’s albums did so well.

[@muskaan3711]

Agreed. I'm not from the usa or the uk, and Chappell, Sabrina and Charli songs were really popular here. Whether you like it or not, one can't deny their impact in 2024.

[@Sara01977]

@@muskaan3711I’m rooting for Chappell, Charlie and Sabrina this go around. Billie and Taylor have all their accolades and will continue to. I want recognition this year for those other women. So deserving…

[@klee.365]

All I gotta say is….. it’s DEFINITELY stacked at the snammys 💚

[@theswiftologist]

well yes

[@Marie78173]

BRAT SWEEP

[@laura-kb3ej]

brat sweep

[@thecosmystic]

I've been refreshing for days waiting for ya'll's takes on the noms! Yay!! 🫶🐍✨

[@soaribb32]

Me, I'm not a meditation person but André's album gives BEAUTIFUL meditation vibes.

[@jillsarah7356]

Agreed. I added quite a few songs from that album to my “calm” playlist

[@Ana-zz7hp]

7:28 i just looked it up and she did submit the tour movie for best music film! i was hoping she didn’t submit it in hopes of a certain possible future documentary winning next year. doesn’t sound like something she’d preemptively do, though.

[@paulespinal2602]

There is a great chance of Ariana not attending to the Grammys & knowing that most of the girlies will be there and she won’t… Just breaks my heart!😭

[@ValerieAbena]

If it makes you feel better, Ariana barely cares about that album. She’s on her wicked kick

[@rydbthatsme]

She’s too busy homewrecking anyways

[@creepypapermultipack]

Normally I just don’t care about the Grammys but if Chappell doesn’t sweep I will riot.

[@rydbthatsme]

She ruined her chances of winning with her bad attitude. They nom her for her art but wont award someone with bad behavior.

[@creepypapermultipack]

@@rydbthatsme ​​⁠if establishing healthy boundaries and demanding that she and her friends/family aren’t stalked or treated poorly because even though, yes, she is a celebrity, she is also a human being constitutes as “bad behavior” then I think more people should behave “badly”. Women, even women who are celebrities, don’t own anyone shit, especially whatever bullshit expectations of politeness society demands of us (that oftentimes results in our being harmed in some way). She has every right to call out the predatory and harmful behavior fans and the media have normalized when it comes to celebrities, which is a much worse kind of behavior than her calling them out on it. The way she is being treated (and fighting against) is the same treatment female pop stars/celebrities have been subjected to for decades with horrible consequences to said celebs and then we look back and rightfully critique the media and fans for their behavior (Britney Spears is one of many examples). Everyone deserves basic respect and autonomy, even celebrities. And besides, they should be awarding her for the art/work, not her “bad attitude”. You want Sabrina Carpenter to sweep and that’s cool, dude. I want Chappell to sweep. Either way, they’re both talented and have done amazing work this year and though, yes it’s technically a competition for an award, all the pop girlies got crowns and Chappell and Sabrina deserve their flowers. We don’t need to shit on one to uplift another.

[@hannahelizabeth.vee21]

Apparently Zach Bryan didn’t submit himself for consideration

[@brennaschultz7905]

I agree with Madeline on her opinion of Hit Me Hard And Soft being a contender because of how the Grammys think. They like a cohesive album. (See Red losing album of the year in 2014) Each song from HMHAS transitions into the next smoothly because of Finneas' production. The final track BLUE (a sample from a Billie song from 2016) takes a line from every song in the album to finish cohesively. I believe that Billie and Finneas tried to make a Grammy centered album. We will see if this has held her back or helped her win.

[@MarcoS-dq6or]

von dutch megatruther madeline (spelling...?) thats why we love you

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

im a von dutch truther too

[@OnOceanBlvd]

Another thing about Ariana is even prior to her refusal to perform a song she didn't want to do an old Grammy's official confirmed that during the Sweetener era she was supposed to be nominated for multiple Main Categories but they swapped her with someone who didn't reach the amount of vote needed to be nominated!!!

[@raegandougan]

I’m hoping for a Chappell and Sabrina sweep

[@chelseaabraham6]

I think Vampire Weekend was snubbed for Album of the Year noms, their new record is their best so far

[@tylerhartman3034]

Zach I love your Taylor Swift content obviously i been catching up on the podcast and yall are hilarious especially Madeline! But will the Lanaologist be making a return anytime soon?

[@LD-tn6ff]

Chappell is def new artist of the year....but Im concerned. How many "Neo-liberals" that were offended by her criticisms of Kamala actually occupy the Grammy voter demographic? Potentially allot. I wonder if they'll vote for other candidates instead on the basis of that particular resentment

[@Li_Tobler]

I didn't like her comments about this, but I will be voting for her either way for example so idk

[@rydbthatsme]

Yea she’s got a horrible attitude so that will hurt her up against a sweetheart like Sabrina

[@giorgosnanadakis]

Im not even a billie fan but HIT ME HARD AND SOFT is by FAAARRR the best album of this year

[@chimbirela]

Can we just please take a moment to appreciate how gorgeous both of you look? HD is glowing.

[@marianoakiki]

The ariana situation with the grammys happened when sweetner was nominated and they wanted her to perform from sweetner only but she wanted to perform from thank u next since 1 or 2 singles of it were out already and they didn't put restrictions on other artists so she pulled out but then she won that year her 1st grammy and after she got nominated for AOTY for thank u next

[@melisabuckley2873]

I understand that TTPD is an album for the fans. I know that people don't like Taylor to win she doesn't need to win to be my favorite. She could be the most hated person ever and I still would be her number 1 fan

[@nnnjn-o7l]

same

[@rynnybyn205]

Von Dutch IS the best song from brat, thank you for being right Madeleine!!

[@jmurray7721]

12:31 thumbs? 💀

[@tinamardt7734]

Cowboy Carter having pop, country, rap and Americana Grammy nominations shows how crazy genre bending it is… def think it will win AOTY as a result but NOT Country album…. Grammy freak as usual

[@ofcitsaakuagain]

ECSTATIC to be hanging out with my friends actually

[@theswiftologist]

well yes

[@tanyahotchkiss5403]

I listen to TTPD nearly everyday. What she did was amazing. The writing, the chaos, the vulnerability, the honesty. Its fascinating and so interetsing to listen to so many months later. But, aoty it is not. Swiftie culture does not reflect the wider culture and I think other albums had more impact on the wider population this year. Thats okay, I am grateful for all TTPD has given me. And frankly, as you guys have said before, what would we expect when she won last year? Especially in a year that is so stacked, with so many amazing pop girls making their name and putting out such varied and amazing work?

[@Marie78173]

TTPD should win

[@Jess81838]

agreed

[@xFolkmore]

people would riot if they gave it to taylor second year in a row AND how stacked the category is

[@Marie78173]

@@xFolkmore “people would riot” who cares?

[@xFolkmore]

@@Marie78173 you must be new here

[@MohammedAhmed-iq3gv]

Sooo happy u mentioned Ariana grande album ✌️ biggest snub

[@singingwithbecca]

Personally I'm gonna be happy with whoever wins these awards cuz damn they all deserve it. This year's been hands down the BEST year for pop girlies in YEARS

[@billino6419]

Tbh we cant be friends not being nominated while fortnight was is the epitome of snubbing behaviour

[@serenas5411]

I’m rooting for Sabrina Carpenter & Chappell Roan this year (I’m a swiftie tho!)

[@muskaan3711]

Same! I need my slow burn success girlies to get their crown!

[@hannaam710]

madeline getting me into sunday 1994 from the lizard review & now her wearing the merch omg we love her

[@summerchild_]

I DON'T get the hype for Eternal Sunshine. I started to hate the record when it came out and Spotify becaume obsessed with playing it randomly. Every time a Playlist or album was done Spotify would play eternal sunshine, I became so annoyed with it thst I ended up blocking Ariana in Spotify even if I don't dislike Ariana at all.

[@theswiftologist]

well that's your journey......fortunately....I CAN'T RELATE!

[@summerchild_]

@theswiftologist maybe I would have enjoyed it more if I didn't felt the algorithm trying to force me to listen to it idk sometimes I'm on the mood to be a contrarian.

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

My biggest snub was Megan thee stallion I generally find it weird how the Grammys have treated her career/success after giving her best new artist in 2021 very weird all of the previous and recent best new artist winners have been recognized even in bigger categories after their wins including dua lipa, Billie eilish, Olivia roderigo and Samara joy but for Megan she’s only had 1 nomination for thot ish and that’s it. Traumatize was robbed from multiple rap categories and now self titled again it’s much worst bc at least traumatize was overshadowed by the Tory lanez drama and her former label sabotaging the rollout/promo but self titled was executed, commercially successful and critically well received, plus Megan was everywhere from Kamala Harris presidential campaign to hosting the VMAs and giving MTV its highest ratings in years to selling out and breaking records on her debut international headlining tour, I feel hiss would’ve been a great option for record of the year and cobra for song of the year, while Megan swept up the rap nominations, I was hoping Megan would follow up Lauryn hill and cardi b footsteps in winning best rap album of self titled was nominated. I think there should be a bigger discussion to how the Grammys treated black female hip hop artists after not only breaking out both in hip hop and pop music but sustaining it and even rivaling both male rapper and female pop singers in relevancy, cultural impact, critical acclaim and commercial success.

[@Li_Tobler]

Yep she was treated unfairly, I was rooting for her. Hiss was fire

[@muskaan3711]

I'm not a fan, but Meghan deserved a nom. And Tyla too.

[@poeticbodynoheart]

Oooo ive been waiting for this one

[@SummersFrost]

These vids are better for me than my Prozac

[@Jess81838]

as the only one who think the grammys lost credibility since a few years already? Lots of artists boycotted and we all know why