Pop Singers VS Metal Singers

In this video I give my honest opinion on Pop Singers VS Metal Singers. Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Floor Jansen, Simone Simmons and more. Which vocalists are more qualified....is there such thing as objective value in singers? Give me your opinion in the comments below.
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[@janekalbinsky]

I have huge respect for Adele for releasing pop songs with imperfections in them. I don't really like her music, but I am grateful for her not bowing to the pop paradigm that is autotune.

[@hbsupermage]

you are def if you cant hear the amount of pitch correction in her songs

[@janekalbinsky]

@@hbsupermage I was obviously referring to Adele's song "Easy on me". If you imply that those audible imperfections have be created on purpose using autotune, I will actually feel more respect for her. Choosing to sound flawed in a genre that doesn't take kindly to flaws takes guts. Also, please use punctuation; it makes postings more readable.

[@ALTDOK667]

@@janekalbinsky So, you like imperfections in music, but not in You Tube comments. Gotcha.

[@janekalbinsky]

@@ALTDOK667 Who can claim to be free of contradictions? That said, yes, I do appreciate music with a human touch as much as I enjoy fully formed sentences that adhere broadly to spelling norms.

[@radmehr775]

To be honest, I do like adele's "19", but that's it, she went pop after that and sold out lol

Floor Jansen, First of Her Name, Warrior Queen of the Valkyries, Snatcher of Souls, Lady of Nightwish and Protector of our Metal Realm. Long may she reign.

[@avagyhas]

She's simple Empress of The Universe, and i think this really, really, honestly and seriously, not ironically. I love Floort.

[@foberdud7576]

Hell no

[@z20man10]

And sabaton s drummers wife

[@iowa406]

I will say it differently: - Tarja Turunen - goddess of metal - Floor Jensen - Queen of rock - Joan Jett- Queen of Rock & Roll - Doro Pesch - mother of metal - Janis Joplin - the grandmother of metal/rock - Noora Louhimo - Queen of metal - Liv Kristine - Metal Angel. And there are many others that are equally good. Floor is almost perfect, but not perfect. And not perfect.

[@johngialluca6025]

Floor Jansen hands down. One of the greatest female vocalists of her generation.

[@NickBR57]

Yes and can do pop better than the pop singers, as well as everything rlse.

[@angeltensey]

Well, i guess Floor's signature "thing" is that she can do a lot of stuff. Thats why she has suddenly woke up one day being a metal community's icon after wacken 2013 got viral. She is not completely superior to every single female vocalist, but she is definitely in the top tier. I also admit that there are couple of really cool vocalists on the pop scene such as adele, ariana grande (yes, she actually can sing quite good) and mid/late miley cyrus.

[@immateriumepicmetal4544]

The best, together with Brittney Slayes from Unleash the archers

[@johngialluca6025]

@@angeltensey yeah. But can they growl too? 🤣

[@angeltensey]

@@johngialluca6025 no clue. may be with some training

[@strangelet4588]

Adele needs to do a metal song. She's got great grit in her voice. Massive power too.

[@ascensionenergetics85]

Floor Jansen is the best and most versatile female singer of our time, IMHO. She, as an empath, feels and provokes any emotion she chooses and easily imparts that onto anyone who hears and listens. She has brought tears to my eyes many, many times. Not because I feel a personal connection to the lyrics (sometimes) but simply because of her voice and performance. I’ve never experienced that with any other artist without having the lyrics remind me of something I went through personally in my life. She’s unmatched. 💯

[@goldenguti]

yea, that fatality part should be last note from Ghost Love Score from Wacken :D

[@GabiBrooks]

Indeed. She is incredibile!

[@Nikioko]

Well, no. She is great, but she is not unmatched. Simone is better. And in terms of versitilaty, there are many crossover singers around there who can do the same. They are just not as famous as Floor. Those people usually sing musicals at country level.

[@orlock20]

I would also add that Beth Hart is probably the most hired front session singer right now because of her versatility.

[@blazejecar]

in terms of versatility, heck no. Mike Patton is the king of that. Man has done every vocal technique under the sun and sung in a billion styles

[@jimmyggs91]

Just a note, that performance of "Shallow" by Floor Jansen, even Lady Gaga said it was awesome. I don't think pop singers are necessarily inferior, their musical style don't force them to push as much as in metal/rock. And singers like Tarja, Floor and Simone, they were also trained in classical style. They can nail operas easily. It's on another level for sure.

[@Nikioko]

Really? Didn't know that Lady Gaga even noticed it. But Floor's version was better for sure. Lady Gaga is a great musician when it comes to composition and the piano, but Floor for sure is the better singer. And I very much doubt that Tarja, Floor and Simone can nail operas easily. Most likely of them Tarja. But to be a great opera singer, it takes a lot more. You have to specialize in this genre early and dedicate your whole life to it.

[@bertjones3010]

Training be it classical or other wise, the important thing isn't the genre as much a learning how to master your instrument. That's the most impressive thing about Floor. Haley Reinhart, Diana Ankudinova both had great control. But they are all different genres so you can't really compare their music with each other.

[@MiereTeixeira]

This. Being a former singer myself I can confirm your intuition. One can notice this from how Jansen project her voice, releasing only the necessary amount of air to reach those notes, with enough room for a longer vibrato if needed. Gaga is not bad at all. Probably one of the most remarkable pop performer in the last decade. But Jansen barely misses a note. Her pitch and voice tonality is just… mesmerising.

[@estrellaparra9581]

Gaga watched Floor's performance???? I didn't know that

[@aussieausdeutschland4245]

Opera singers are of a total upper level with those singer's male or female, compared to all other's really, but those 3 women you mentioned yeah they're Upper Class and phenomenol singer's

[@_Ep0ch_]

I recently revisited the After Forever discography and I was impressed by how Floor Jansen seemed to transition between pop and operatic styles effortlessly. She's such a talented and versatile vocalist.

[@phadrus]

Floor crushed Gaga’s take on the song. Not even close.

[@colinmorrison9374]

I think this was heavily biased towards metal. The parts selected for the videos didn't do the pop singers justice. With a couple of exceptions the singers in both genres here have amazing voices. Powerful, rich and dynamic. I'd like to see a crossover with metal doing pop and vice versa. I bet we'd be surprised.

[@cinderfox5217]

I agree, it was definitely skewed out of pops favor, but there are a lot of examples of metal artists doing pop covers, Floor Janson is a great example of that, otherwise there’s Jonathan Young, and then there’s the whole Bring me the Horizon band who used to be super heavy metalcore but they have since completely changed into edgy pop. Personally I would absolutely love to see someone like Lady Gaga or Katy Perry suddenly flip the script and release a metal song

[@bilingualkaraoke8665]

As a huge Muse fan I have to point out that "Supremacy" isn't the name of the band Tarja Turunen sings with in this video but the title of the song they are covering, originally by Muse.

[@talaniel]

Was about to comment on that :-)

[@christiandietachmair5638]

Not really . it´s a song by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart- A Composer from Salzburg where I live. this was a song for Constanza . You can see all the notes in the Museum

[@bilingualkaraoke8665]

@@christiandietachmair5638 Huh? I was talking about this song: 01:05 Since Muse are known for borrowing from classical composers, I looked up the song-title Supremacy on Wikipedia: No reference to Mozart whatsoever. (Sorry, if you made a joke, I clearly didn't get it.)

[@rear5118]

@@christiandietachmair5638 Mozart didn't write Supremacy lol

[@ranger7544]

@@rear5118 Would've probably been amazing though! Lmao!

[@GabiBrooks]

Lady Gaga can really sing. She can also add distorsion in her voice at will. That's no small feature.

[@Rain593]

She also started out in a rock band I'm pretty sure. I think she could do a metal project and would kill it.

[@Notyourbis]

@@Rain593 she is a metalhead herself i read somewhere that she is a big fan of iron maiden

[@GabiBrooks]

@@Rain593 yes,I know. I think it was a Led Zeppelin tribute band. I love her voice!

[@Lycanthropy54or]

It’s not hard to recreate the lomax cantometrics, almost every blues and folk singer can create it, and certain any person who can create sounds out of their mouth can create this feature, not putting Gaga down, just putting a feature from the lomax archives that never gets recognized.

[@GabiBrooks]

@@Lycanthropy54or true. But most pop singers don't do it

[@smutbroker]

Floor Jansen...rules all. Celine Dion is the only "pop" singer who, in her prime, approached Floor's zip code.

[@nicholew350]

There are many pop singers who were way better than Floor in their prime. Whitney, Mariah, Aretha, Barbara, Lara, Fabian, the list can go on and on. Floor isn’t that special.

[@sharkey9]

Morissette, SoHyang, Lara Fabian... Much sweeter tone, more control, maybe less range. Floor sometimes sounds artifical to me. I mean it's cool if you have a huge range and hit everything pitch perfect - still doesn't necessarily mean it sounds pleasing. Very subjective, I know. Same with Dimash. That guy just makes me cringe.

[@1973HenkY]

@@sharkey9 Maybe you should actually listen to the voice while disregarding the song to single out the quality of the singer. Your remarks about Floor are objectively silly as she ALWAYS uses what the song needs, while not showing of all the time explicitly.

[@ryansargent661]

Floor Jansen is my favorite female vocalist period. I don’t listen to pop if I can avoid it, but from what I’ve heard Adele is very good.

[@marcthedashergd6321]

Adele actually does sing very well. Same goes for Lady Gaga especially with that collaboration that she did with Metallica.

[@GabiBrooks]

In terms of versatility Floor Jansen is my favorite hands down. In terms of screaming vocalists, for me Alissa is not that great. Liked her when I first started screaming but as I progressed I grew to appreciate Angela Gossow more. Tatiana from Jinjer also has a great unique tone. Another great example that comes to mind is Yu Umehara from Merging Moon. You should check out one of their songs like Greyen for example. Thr girl has some amazing growls and high screams. I think you'd like it. Anyway, I tend to prefer screams that have a unique tone because otherwise the vocalist sounds generic like Alissa or Courtney Laplante from Spiritbox. But, of course, to each their own.

[@jaimemora4696]

Listen to Candice from ETHS. That's screaming!

[@GabiBrooks]

@@jaimemora4696 thanks for the suggestion, I'll let you know my opinion after I listen. 😁

[@Lord_Dranek]

NICE!. Glad too see another who likes Angela better, Alissa can do the job but she is no Angela.

[@ericsmith8129]

Alissas work in the agonist was far superior to anything she’s done with arch enemy. I would def check out her last album with them if your havent.

[@silverblack5475]

Floor Jansen is my all time favorite......

[@peterjacobsen8120]

I think my favorite female metal singer is Tatiana from Jinjer. She's incredible, no doubt about it. I don't know about the male vocalists. There are so many to choose from. But one that could always sing me to sleep, as well as make my blood boil, is Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth and some of the Bloodbath albums. His performance on songs like Ghost of Perdition sort of showed the death metal world that clean (and even beautiful) vocals can elevate a song to an even greater level. I couldn't tell you who my favorite pop singer is... Cause I don't EVER listen to it.. But I have a lot of respect for Adele.

[@bloodycaramelcream]

Dave Mustaine is obviously the best singer of all time. I mean not even Freddie Mercury could sing Of Mice And Men or Dawn Patrol.

[@dmphax]

Absolutely love Mikael Stanne (Dark Tranquillity, Grand Cadaver, The Halo Effect), and Tomi Joutsen (Amorphis) for male vocalists who can do both harsh vocals and clean singing.

[@hamohamo8270]

Floor Jansen the best singer on the planet, she is at an unreal high level in all genres, Floor has surpassed the great pop singer Lady Gaga in her pop genre and in her own song shallow.

[@Nikioko]

Sure. But she is not the best singer on the planet. Do you know every singer on this planet to make such a judgement?

[@hamohamo8270]

​@@Nikioko Floor does so many things that it is impossible to list them, I have not found so many qualities in than one singer, Floor stands out among all, most of the singers are similar to each other, I think if there was a singer among them at the level of Freddie Mercury, I would have noticed this in the internet.

[@Nikioko]

@@hamohamo8270 I didn't say that Floor was bad, I just said you are overrating her. There are many singers who can do what she can. But those people normally are not lucky to be hired by a famous band, most of them sing musicals at national level. And yes, to be a main performer in a musical, you must be a crossover singer who is able to sing both classical and modern. So, yes, Floor is great, but she doesn't stand out or is the best singer on the planet. And Freddie Mercury is just another league. Not because of his singing, but his overall stage performance. Just watch Live at Wembley 1986, and you know what I mean. However, when it comes to singing, Simone is better than Floor. And yes, I know what Floor can: powerful, dominant voice sustaining notes till eternity. What she can't is coloratura or vocal ensemble, why requires a flexible voice and blending in with other voices, respectively. If you want to see experts in the royal discipline of singing, watch the King's Singers. That is singing near perfection.

[@hamohamo8270]

@@Nikioko What nonsense, if I knew that you would be talking nonsense, I would not answer, I think I have nothing more to add.

[@Nikioko]

@@hamohamo8270 But since I am not talking nonsense and have a lot more knowledge of and experience in music than you obviously, you have nothing more to add. Great. Then I just say that there still is so much to discover for you in the world of music for you. So far, you have just sailed the coastal waters of a huge ocean. So enjoy your discoveries. And maybe one day you can relate to what I wrote today.

[@benjamineer3045]

I am with Shred on Adele, she might be "pop" (although she is a lot blusier than her peer) singer, but her voice is great and I would say her mainstream success is totally deserved. That being said, and I agreement with probably most of the comment section Floor Jansen is the total package and despite the massive success she has with Nightwish she has achieved mainstream recognition in the Netherlands and might do so as well in Germany this year. An interesting contender would be Tati Schmyuck of Jinjer not just for the shock factor of her awesome growls but for the unique sound of her clean voice as well.

[@eduleal]

Floor’s version is a key higher than Gaga’s - crazy that someone would react to this video and not comment on that.

[@carlfogelin1388]

Without question, Floor Jansen is my favorite female metal singer. As for pop, P!nk all the way. That girl has chops.

[@anthonydematteo4686]

It's Floor. She does something I've never seen before or since. Head voice into a vocal fry into chest voice in one breath. never seen it done. such control

[@pani40]

Just watched floor jansen singing disdain by revamp live, and it was friggin amazing. Her vocals are hard to beat 🤘

[@TwilightZone13]

Favorite metal vocalists: Tarja Turunen & Rob Halford Favorite pop vocalists: Adele & Michael Jackson

[@DegobaSystem-ox1ig]

SHRED dude, i watch ur videos all night and wrote a new song this morning using some of the stuff u talked about like augmentation and pedal tones, also stuff i learned from the mighty Master Kragen Lum! =) and that ever so hellacious flattened fith...hoo hoo huwah wah hwah haa!!!!!

[@zombieholic]

Out of the pop I’d pick Christina Aguilera, her voice is very versatile,and obviously Floor Jansen

[@ecstasyecs]

Rock Floor is def my favorite. Just her singing in and of itself, then add her being an empath (or highly sensitive person which isnt the same as empath but pretty much) and then add her to a band like Nightwish where you have musical genius Tuomas. It’s literally perfection. I also love Sharon Den Adel so much, she isnt classically trained but she still has range. Just listen to Angels then The Heart of Everything. As for pop.. idk. I do love Katy, so much so I have a lyric of her tattooed on me. She can be quite nasal and out of breath but accoustically she’s fantastic. Just look at her Unconditionally performance on Ellen and pretty much all of her performances of Thinking of You. She likes to incorporate rock to her live performances aswell which I think stems from her Warped tour days. For example she doesnt do the pop version of I Kissed A Girl anymore, she only does the ”rock” version. She would be a pretty good rock vocalist imo.

[@ds267]

That first one from Tarja is her own band and doing a cover of Muse-Supremacy. Many people act like she doesn't exist anymore after leaving Nightwish. Tarja's version of Ave Maria would bury Christina's.

[@TheSnapdad]

Thanks for the exposure to these women. As a child of the 80's who was brought up on 60's Motown my favorite female pop-vocalists are Belinda Carlisle and Diana Ross (I got to see Ms Ross live 20+ years ago, and my parents are still jealous) I have a show choir/musical theater daughter and we are going to check these metal women vocalists.

[@pietrayday9915]

I've been a metal guy for decades, and never really got into Motown much, but Diana Ross was a superb singer by any measure, and I have to respect the Motown artists for doing some great music, even if it wasn't my style. They really don't make 'em like that anymore. Great stuff!

[@kuplung22]

No category for Floor Jansen. And Tatiana from jinjer.

[@tonybell9551]

Floor for metal. I couldn't care less for pop crap.

[@FL3TCH3R43]

Metal - Tatiana Pop - Jessie J Either - Amy Lee

[@falkolange800]

It’s not the band „Supremacy“. It’s a song from the English Band Muse.

[@lawrenceliang1111]

Simone and Floor are my favorite. Don’t really listen to pop much nowadays.

[@musicisajourney]

My favourite female vocalist in metal in Brittney Slayes of Unleash the Archers. She is really awesome as a metal vocalist. And she’s a really cool person too. There are singers with more vocal talent such as Floor, but Brittney is just all round super! I can’t think of any western pop singers I like, but Yuri Nakamura, formerly of the Japanese band GARNET CROW, is really good when she’s good. She was not such a strong singer in the early days because she was not a vocalist but a composer and keyboard player. But her vocal skills grew over the years and her best performance, in my opinion, was on the band’s final album in 2013. Here’s Yuri singing Maizy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIS7mp2Mnp6qjas

[@OgamiItto70]

They (mostly) come from very different musical traditions. "Pop" singers' cultural antecedents are from black American gospel singing and therefore African styles of music. "Metal" singers come (mostly) from European 12-tone music with all the scales, modes, etc. that come with that. The African traditions often have more than just 12 notes in their scales. Then again, some of them have only 5. This is why blues, rock, "soul" and pop are so filled with pentatonics and blue notes. They are callbacks to musical traditions from Africa adapted to the instrumentation of the European tradition. That's sort of the "schoolboy" explanation/understanding of the two styles. Of course that's a generalization and the has been and continues to be overlap, but that seems (to me, at least) to be the basic difference. (And don't let's even get started on the rhythmic aspects of the two traditions...) Greatest metal vocalist: Rob Halford. (Or Geoff Tate?) Greatest pop vocalist: Steve Perry. (Or maybe Darryl Hall?)

[@fvantpadje]

My favourite Dutch singers are Floor Jansen, Glennis Grace and Amira Willighagen one metal one soul/pop and one opera singer. For me is good music is good music.

[@ShadowhispersBand]

There are great voices in both metal and pop. I'm missing Tatiana from Jinjer and Lara Fabian (great pop singer, check out Requiem pour en fou with Johnny Halliday)

[@ShadowhispersBand]

@@thomazmiguel2654 Yes. I could probably add a dozen more, like Marcela Bovio, Diane van Guirsbergen, Laura Macri, Lisette van der Berg, Anneke van Guirsbergen, Maggie Luyten, Melissa Bonnie, Madeleine Liljestam, etc etc etc. So many talents to chose from.

[@MrFlae]

I've read 5 random comments and all of them referenced Floor Jansen. That's got to tell you something :) Rock singer: Floor Jansen, female version of Freddie Mercury to say the least. Do check her live performances with Nightwish, you'll be mind-blown. Ghost Love Score, Song of Myself, Ghost River, Yours is an empty hope (in which she does some really gnarly growls), Romanticide and so on. Give her 30 minutes of your time and listen to Live Nightwish and you won't regret it. After, go back and listen to Adele or the other ones and let us know in a future video what you think of them pop singers. 😉

[@sharkey9]

Well best operatic rock singer, yea maybe. I just don't like such superlatives because there are so many that sound awesome. Best rock singer in general? No. Listen to Beth Hart. 🙂

[@MrFlae]

@@sharkey9 i knkw Beth. Powerful voice. ❤️

[@jurgenbruin3207]

Real question is, who is second to our Valkyrie Queen? 🤟🤔

[@DFuzzy1]

I love and am blown away by quite a few of the heavy metal ladies, but if I was limited to only listening to one…it has to be Floor.

[@middlepilot1]

I think the Nightwish are doing a cover of Supremecy by Muse! Keep up the great content Scott!

[@vampiressedna9]

The best pop singer: Lady Gaga The best metal singer: Floor Jansen 🤩

[@troystaunton254]

Favourite metal singer. Ozzy Osbourne Favourite rock singer. Axl rose Favourite pop singer. Freddie Mercury. Favourite country singer. Kenny Rogers Favourite soul singer. Aretha Franklin.

[@AnOldGreyDog]

For metal, I'm going to be predictable and say Floor, because it's objectively true. For pop, the first name that springs to mind is Hannah Reid of London Grammar (if you count indy as pop). She has a beautiful voice - quite low but very sensual and moving.

[@mattlupu152]

For me Floor Jansen is the best vocalist I have heard. No matter what range she is in her voice is the easiest to listen to. Even when she goes up high her voice has weight to it so it is never piercing. I can listen to her all day because she has such great pitch control and power that is never fatiguing to hear. Sure there are singers like Whitney and Mariah that have more range but they can get hard on the ears and I listen to music for enjoyment rather than a vocal exercise. Also her stamina is phenomenal as she sounds the same no matter if it is the first song or the last in a 2HR set. Any singer can sound great in a studio it is a truly great singer that can sound great live and through a whole set.

[@michaelmurach9227]

Well, Floor Jansen is the best Metal AND Pop Singer ! Muhuhahaha 😆

[@peterang6912]

You have operasingers, popsingers, rocksingers and metalsingers and then you have Floor Jansen

[@AHVENAN]

For the Tarja clip, tha name of the song is Supremacy and its her own cover of a Muse song, she recorded that song after she was fired from Nightwish as part of her solo career

[@clivematthews5296]

Of course best rock singer is Floor Jansen and guilty pleasure is Kate Bush.

[@luisnunes3863]

Tarja is palying with her solo band, the song is Supremacy, a Muse cover. 🤘

[@MikeysMorgue]

This is embarrassing but I seen Jewel perform Who Will Save Your Soul and she has major pipes! No joke. She held a note so long, I would have passed out.

[@hbsupermage]

favorite metal singer = Shred favorite pop singer = Shred

[@larrybrinker1664]

the duet in the epica concert. what 2 other girls could you see there?

[@MrClassicmetal]

True, a lot of the top metal vocalists have had training. Either they had/have had training from a coach or they went to music college.

[@Jurgen_Ibro]

Metal: Floor Jansen Pop: Floor Jansen All the metal vocalists though would wipe the floor with those pop singers, although Adele and Lady Gaga are pretty good.

[@syntezjaofficial4240]

Pop had a lot of good singers in 80s like Whitney Houston. Nowadays in hard rock and metal there are a lot of great female singers and composers like Amy Lee (also amazing pianist), Sharon den Adel or Lzzy Hale. Ps. It could be interesting to see this video with male singers like Corey Taylor.

[@marcthedashergd6321]

But comparing a singer like Justin Beiber against someone like James Hetfield would be too unfair. However, comparing Michael Jackson to a random metal vocalist would be a more fair fight.

[@Mtaalas]

I'm a male with somewhat good whistle register, and I can just BARELY sing that first high note of Tarja if i really get everything correct... and then she pulls it even higher and i just can't... physically CAN'T follow that note more than few semitones and then it completely cracks up... it's madness.

[@juliannewarren5466]

Adele has nice and distinctive, grounded voice. I like her singing. I would like to honorably mention Michael Mills. Yes, this is ladies only video, but he still deserves a shout out. I have heard him in Ayreon first and his versatility is almost on par with Floor. I don't know if he can go classical as she does, but the way he can use his voice is pretty impressive. Floor Jansen is amazing in her versatility. Don't know any other female singer alive today who can pull off classical techniques similar to the actual operatic singing and also death growls and everything in between. But there are so many impressive singers in metal, it's impossible to create even top 20.

[@memyselfandi432]

Yeah, Floor Jansen and Tarja Turunen are absolutely mind-blowingly good singers, but can we all just take a moment to appreciate Noora Louhimo of Battle Beast? She's just an absolute powerhouse of a vocalist with lots of versatility, range, and *power*. For example, listen to her just unleash in "Bastard Son of Odin" with her band, Battle Beast, or "Eden" with the same band. As for pop vocalists, while I'm not really into pop at all, I do have to pay my respects to both Lady Gaga and Adele for their own amazing skills as vocalists, even if I'm not the biggest fan of their music.

[@johnnytmcq]

I don't really think this is an appropriate comparison, as there's clearly two different kinds of vocal training at work. All the "metal singers" have clearly trained in opera, which is different but not better. As has been pointed out, if we're talking technical skill and range, some pop singers reign supreme. The thing that these metal singers AKA opera singers have on their side is volume. And you can sing to a large theater without a microphone, that's a loud ass s***. In the end, isn't that one is better than the other, it's that they are different in many ways, and it's not really fair to either side to compare them against each other.

[@aokproservice9324]

Damn, missed opportunity, Doro- Breaking the law live. Any Doro live or studio. I feel old :-) Don't get me wrong, Shred, love your content. Point is missing with OP's video.

[@YnseSchaap]

Could it have something to do with the backing band. I mean practicing with a metal band at 11 or with a tape rolling that's just audible

[@nesguillen]

Floor Jansen is the Queen. And I like Katy Perry, I like her... really much... and not her voice.

[@philipketchum1407]

Floor is on a different level. As for the rest, let the debate go on.

[@Guithulhu]

Metal female I'll go Tatiana from Jinjer. Metal male is the quad of: Dio, Bruce Dickinson, Anselmo, and Warrel Dane. Pop, I'll honestly say none. There are some catchy songs at times, but it's not because of the singing. Somebody just wrote them a catchy line and music....many times "borrowing" from past popular songs.

[@RoamingSouthernNorway]

Elize Ryd is one of 3 singers in Amaranthe, she also preformed in Eurovision Song Contest.

[@kaleidojess]

Pop singers from the 80s are some of the most talented. Whitney Houston, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Des‘ree, Toni Braxton, A lot of the RnB singers from the 80s on up are some of the most talented. I’d even say the 60s but I can’t account for that since I don’t tend to listen to most 60s music unless I’m in the shower singing along Lmao

[@orlock20]

Metal also had a host of top male metal singers at that time too. Pop singers have fallen off because labels have used Auto-Tune to find younger singers that can dance and model but haven't taken singing lessons.

[@marcthedashergd6321]

@@orlock20 yeah there are great metal singers in the 80s like Rob Halford, Bruce Dickinson, Ozzy Ozbourne, James Hetfield (even before he changed his style later), and probably Lemmy Kilmeister (99% chance I messed up his name). However, unlike modern pop which has now fallen off in terms of talent because of autotune, modern metal still has great vocalists who can do more than just screaming.

[@beldin2987]

I think its more that the pop songs from that time were better, at least for me. Best example is Mariah Carey, loved her 90s stuff where she did great ballads thats showed what she can, and then in the 2000s she started to do mostly this lame hip-pop stuff where you don't even really noticed anymore what she is capable of. The same problem i have for example now with Ariana Grande, i have seen her doing waaaay better in Late Night Shows than what she does in most of her songs.

[@arturiuspendragon6849]

@@marcthedashergd6321 Though I like his music a lot, I never thought of Ozzy as a great singer. Definitely not Hetfield. For some truly amazing singers from that period, definitely have to throw in Geoff Tate, Sebastian Bach and Miljenko Matijevic. Axl Rose was an incredible talent, but damn he was a PIA. Oh yeah, it would be blasphemy not to mention one of the greatest ever, Ronnie James Dio. RIP.

[@marcthedashergd6321]

@@arturiuspendragon6849 I understand why you don’t think Ozzy or James are some of the greatest. But I am so sorry that I forgot about Ronnie. He is actually one of if not the greatest singer of all time.

[@johncheek2415]

By far Floor Jansen is the best in the world whether metal or pop

[@isaiahwelch8066]

Only metal singer that's missing, if this video is the one I think it is, is Brittney Slayes from Unleash the Archers. She is the Queen of traditional power metal, having a voice like Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden. Plus, Brittney does sing opera, having sung Brindisi with the singer from Lords of the Trident, on a live-stream.

[@immateriumepicmetal4544]

YES

[@fritsyt2090]

Floor Jansen, Simone Simons and Fabienne Erni (Eluveitie) are by far my favourite female vocalsts. Floor is a beast and maybe the best female singer in Metal but sometimes it's not technique but pure feeling. Simone and Fabienne has tons of this, they got me so many times in tears because of the pure feeling they put in their vocals and chills down the spine. And Floor has these emotions on me too. So for me they are all three in the same league!

[@crashrinaldi9426]

You got me hooked on Tatiana from jinjer. Hands down my new favorite. As far as pop singers go Ive always loved Fiona Apple and Elle king. On a side note there were so many effects on Nikki’s voice on that “live” performance.

[@sateentuoksu]

I'd choose Floor Jansen and Tatiana Shmailyuk. Just because i absolutely love their voices and performing. A gig with those two, and i could like die happy. (And yes, Floor _is_ still with Nightwish, but we have a silly little problem here with gigs nowadays. You might have even heard of it - it's a kinda [sorry,no magic but] pandemia)

[@sateentuoksu]

PS: Jinjer is quite a beasts of musicality -group all together (here only basist & drums) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnmvlKamhNaqqpo

[@Dipper737]

Floor Jansen. No comes close. That woman does things with my emotions no other have ever come close to.

[@racmanov]

Metal Floor Jansen. Hands down. My pop guilty pleasure is Sia. She is insanely good and actually writes songs which is another thing i respect about her edit: best singer of all time is Dimash.

[@MetalGildarts]

Tarja was kicked out of Nightwish in 2005, after which she launched a solo career. What she was singing was a cover of Supremacy by Muse.

[@GothicLightingQueen]

Even if I am very biased towards the music I like and I think that many of the artists I listen is the best from what I've seen so far. I'm always open to the possibility of discovering new amazing artists, whatever genre their in. I must give credit where credits due. I will recognize and agnolish good musicians. For example, I would not attend a slow jazz concert, I Get nothing out of and it's really boring . But as a musician myself. I can be very impressed and inspired to see a jazz artist play their instrument. I have seen jazz groups being virtuosos on their instruments, just freestyling for half an hour and still have perfect and ongoing contact with their bandmates just by listening to each other. Even if the music in it self doesn't do anything for me. Seeing master musicians play together is an absolute thrill.

[@Snyzmi]

If you wanna hear Alissa's clean vocals, check out song "Goodbye" by Nergal's project Me And That Man. I was completely stunned when I heard this for the first time - her cleans are just amazing man

[@countmorbid3187]

😂😂 Saw an interview with a regular "pop" guitarist who was playing the AFAS, or whatever, with Floor Jansen ... he nailed what metal is about. He had to learn to play more than the normal standard 3-5 cord songs without real changes in key and rhythm. 😂 Symphonic metal is the contemporary equivalent of classical music. If Mozart and Beethoven were alive now ... would they compose and play pop or metal? (hint ... watch Ghost Love Score)

[@nikosv95]

You must not have listened to a lot of classical music if you think symphonic metal is the modern version of classical. Compositionally, symphonic metal resembles movie soundtracks at best. At its worst is generic video game music, like all those ai generated epic music videos. Put that on top of pop song structures, following the verse chorus formula, add in some monotonus chugging riffs and some catchy vocals which are mostly sung in a pop style, and voila! Symphonic metal

[@countmorbid3187]

@@nikosv95 And you must have no musical background whatsoever. Doesn't matter though. But if you want, try to study musical theory and styles. Then you will see the difference between "pop" and symphonical metal. The different key's and transitions only found in classical and symph metal elude you. Doesn't matter ... just enjoy your crappy music. To everyone his own. Btw, i studied music, played multiple instruments and listened indeed to a lot of classical music. And all the ppl i know that studied music and play instruments are metalheads.

[@nikosv95]

@@countmorbid3187 Yeah, you totally convinced me with your supposed studies and educated friends, lol... Key changes and transitions are techniques that are found across all music genres, from classical to pop, to rock , folk and so on (maybe not in the modern/electronized pop). It's not exculsive to neither classical music nor symphonic metal (as a supposed educated person you should know this). The main element of classical music is composition and melodic/thematic development This goes at least for romantic era classical music , which is what these symphonic bands poorly try to imitate (so composers like wagner , beethoven etc). All these bands lack any ability for nuanced melodic composition and development. They just follow the verse-chorus formula. When was the last time you heard verse-chorus in a classical symphnony? Also, the singers mostly sing in a pop style and not classical/operatic

[@countmorbid3187]

@@nikosv95 Buddy, i don't care what you think. You're just a musical troglodyte with poor taste.

[@omarlopez-ortega]

There are so many female metal singers that are top notch: Melissa Ferlaak, Diane van Giersbergen, Nicoletta Rosellini, Lori Lewis, Clementine Delauny...they outperform every non-metal singer out there. I respectfully suggest you check bands such as Neopera, Imperial Ages, Imperia.

[@necrocleric13]

Noora Louhimo from Battle Beast is my personal favorite. She's the one getting all wrapped up in the sheets.

[@voodoocustompickups2547]

Martina Astner from Therion (1998-1999) was an amazing vocalist. Her live performance of "Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah" was amazing

[@pietrayday9915]

Martina, Lori, Thomas, Rosalie - Therion have had lots of great singers on board with them over the years. They seem to get overshadowed a bit by Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, and Epica, but it's a subgenre loaded with great vocalists!

[@ronnysmaaberg]

Floor Jansen in both. Hands down!

[@urvermin2682]

"i don't really know what the main point of that video was " LMFAOOO i love you shred

[@Volkoron]

Alissa competed in a season of Canadian Idol and qualified with bohemian rhapsody. She also used to sing for the band The Agonist where she sang clean as well as screamed.

[@renskevanderhaagen5813]

Floor Jansen is my absolute favorite, I also really like sharon den adel and also simone Simons. For pop, I would have to go with Billie Eilish and also lady Gaga, although I’m not too sure how they are live, haven’t seen enough live pop music. I also like Aurora but I’m not sure that is pop….?

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

It was the "Did someone say ROAR?" citation there, and comparing the two "roaring."

[@JuanChavez-nb3yy]

It's ironic that the only Copyright claims this video gets are the ones from the metal labels...

[@Notyourbis]

do pop singers have labels too like in metal? I don't know but i don't think so

[@pro-v7500]

@@Notyourbis what? Of course they do. Who do you think manufactures pop “artists” to be the way they are? They are a money making commodity created by labels. The vast majority of pop “artists” are a business investment, very few are actually artists making musical-art.

[@thelostbassist450]

Not too negative, not too positive. Love it!

[@GryLi]

Floor Janson is by far the best female singer on the planet.

[@kevinshapka3785]

Check out Brittany Slayes, the lead singer of Unleash the Archers, great example of her high range from classical/operatic background in the song Tonight We Ride.

[@RuthlessBiscuit3]

Hi Shred! Great video! Floor Jansen and Adele are at the top of their profession. When all is said and done, I gotta give it Floor all around and hands down.

[@3cuber749]

6:14 that my friends is battle beast, the singer has been in the same musical "school" as me and the music video is filmed in my home town Nokia in a place called Kerhola

[@agent0-1-02]

1:30 That's actually a song by Muse, Matthew Bellamy has really impressive falsetto

[@legoaxel8695]

Metal vochalist: Floor Jansen Pop: Probably one of the abba singers

[@AussieGoblin618]

simone and floor have the best chemistry and they know how to work off each other. i would also love a collab between Floor and her sister Irene. they slay together as apart of arjen lucassons porjects. if you want to hear Alissas cleans check out liar liar with kamelot or her old band the agonist

[@mikereed827]

On the Metal side: Floor Jansen...no question. Pop: I'd have to say Tori Kelly.

[@tino6176]

Oh man, you're missing out if you truly don't know who Noora Louhimo is. She is an amazing singer and her band Battle Beast is equally good. You saw a snippet of No More Hollywood Endings there, I'd also recommend checking out for example King for a Day, Straight to the Heart, Eden and so many more.

[@auralfixxation6702]

Oh there's no doubt that there are some female metal singers who can flat out school pop female singers. So much more diverse in their abilities compared to pop singers. It's insulting that they do not get more recognition especially in reference to major awards.

[@pietrayday9915]

That said, I'm not sure I'd really be happy or impressed if the major awards DID give them recognition: I think I've felt like getting recognition from awards shows from the '80s has meant slightly less than winning a belt in pro wrestling....

[@asadmuhammad4806]

I love Simone above all female vocalist, but IMHO Floor sits on the throne, she is just the Queen.

[@coreyobrien8777]

6:13 is Noora Louhimo from Battle Beast! She a vocal beast too!