The Adorkable Misogyny of The Big Bang Theory

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6 жыл бұрын

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The Big Bang Theory provides a perfect lens through which to deconstruct a popular media trope I like to call the Adorkable Misogynist. Adorkable Misogynists are male characters whose geeky version of masculinity is framed as comically pathetic yet still endearing. Their status as nerdy “nice guys” then lets them off the hook for a wide range of creepy, entitled, and sexist behaviors.
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@CristalianaIvor
@CristalianaIvor 5 жыл бұрын
"Geeky Guys can be sexist, too" well, every girl who plays online Games can agree to that.
@Profanity_Nerd95
@Profanity_Nerd95 Ай бұрын
The kind of abuse that gets beamed at women on mics is fucking crazy.
@Gamfluent
@Gamfluent Ай бұрын
@@Profanity_Nerd95mute
@Funnyjoke12348
@Funnyjoke12348 Ай бұрын
@@Profanity_Nerd95 Thankfully, a lot of us take it well.
@axe-tq2wn
@axe-tq2wn Ай бұрын
They ain’t only sexist, they say the most devious stuff known to man so sometimes I pretend to be white.
@samuel-nq6he
@samuel-nq6he Күн бұрын
Are you new to video games? They're toxic to everybody lol
@phchik
@phchik 2 жыл бұрын
I once saw a quote “Sheldon loves Spock, but Spock would really despise Sheldon for his prejudices” and I think that’s brilliant
@user-tw3rh9po4t
@user-tw3rh9po4t 16 күн бұрын
@@people2chronically-onlineMisogyny
@Emma-iy8nn
@Emma-iy8nn 4 жыл бұрын
“On television men’s feelings and bruised egos are nearly always depicted as more important than women’s comfort or women’s safety.” just had to reiterate that
@people2chronically-online
@people2chronically-online 20 күн бұрын
Wrong
@JuniperGal-ek2pu
@JuniperGal-ek2pu Күн бұрын
@@people2chronically-online “wrong” 🤡
@JulianneFreytag
@JulianneFreytag 3 жыл бұрын
"honorary man". That makes me so sad. The struggle that women had to go through. What a shitty thing to say :(
@people2chronically-online
@people2chronically-online 20 күн бұрын
Leonard clearly hates him for that how do yall call the show sexist
@spettmedia2185
@spettmedia2185 17 күн бұрын
@@people2chronically-onlinedid you not watch The video?
@GamecocksBravesFalcs
@GamecocksBravesFalcs 17 күн бұрын
@@spettmedia2185 Lol quite apparently.....not. Hahahahha
@seijakarjalainen
@seijakarjalainen 14 күн бұрын
Now that women are equal how is it. You can't blame 'the popularity culture' for women doing worse in math. Male chess grandmasters have defeated women fair and square.
@Mynameishassan0
@Mynameishassan0 5 күн бұрын
@@people2chronically-onlinehes an enabler
@jazwaz112
@jazwaz112 6 жыл бұрын
"acknowledging bigotry is not the same thing as critiquing bigotry" PUT THIS ON A BILLBOARD
@javierclement3047
@javierclement3047 6 күн бұрын
Why?
@Fanimati0n
@Fanimati0n 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, I never saw that clip of him calling Marie Curie an "honorary man" before. That was... That was something.
@OTDub
@OTDub Ай бұрын
Basically giving away the game right there, saying the quiet part out loud.
@people2chronically-online
@people2chronically-online 20 күн бұрын
Which he’s made fun of for. The shows not saying it’s a good thing
@seijakarjalainen
@seijakarjalainen 14 күн бұрын
They are mockinf his behaviour.
@Strogman25
@Strogman25 10 күн бұрын
Yeah. I liked how he slipped the transphobia in at the end there by implication. Truly horrible.
@arianalarios6801
@arianalarios6801 2 жыл бұрын
The episode where Penny finally calls him out on his sexual harassment always made me, as a woman, feel so uncomfortable. The fact that they guilt-tripped her into apologizing did not make sense to me at all.
@paolacintron6200
@paolacintron6200 2 ай бұрын
I agree. I honestly thought that her Penny calling him out to his awful bs would finally make him see how horrible of a person he is and change!
@FlorenceBlack73
@FlorenceBlack73 Ай бұрын
I knoooow, y todavía él es la victima y ella se tiene qué disculpar , como por???
@kalindiii8614
@kalindiii8614 Ай бұрын
Omg yes
@dblock20
@dblock20 Ай бұрын
I like the show overall but you are right here. They should have forced Howard to apologize.
@people2chronically-online
@people2chronically-online 20 күн бұрын
Get over it she punched him
@MissVerdine
@MissVerdine 6 жыл бұрын
Additionally, Amy and Bernadette have PhD's as well. Rarely are they referred to as Dr. on the show as the guys are.
@ArtemisScribe
@ArtemisScribe 6 жыл бұрын
"On television men's feelings and men's egos are nearly always depicted as more important than women's comfort or women's safety" And there it is everybody, that's the kicker right there.
@Vishnuk-fe9iv
@Vishnuk-fe9iv 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's the other way around.
@Bubbles603
@Bubbles603 Ай бұрын
@@Vishnuk-fe9ivno it’s not
@nope1083
@nope1083 Ай бұрын
@@Bubbles603 Look at any talk show with middle age women, that's where men's egos and feelings go to die.
@muhdancent4362
@muhdancent4362 Ай бұрын
​@@nope1083All those talk shows combined can't even compare to TBBT and real life. Hilariously bad comparison.
@nope1083
@nope1083 Ай бұрын
@@muhdancent4362 The View?
@melaniepedersen3750
@melaniepedersen3750 6 жыл бұрын
i stopped watching this show when penny finally called out howard's creepy behavior and then he got depressed the entire episode, until penny apologised to him
@people2chronically-online
@people2chronically-online 20 күн бұрын
She punched him
@iron-stewie3381
@iron-stewie3381 10 күн бұрын
Bro didn’t watch the entire episode
@kirstiecampbell4000
@kirstiecampbell4000 5 жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, the guy who essentially sexually assaulted me always threw pity parties about how he wasn't like "other guys."
@axe-tq2wn
@axe-tq2wn Ай бұрын
Did he call himself a nice guy?
@dblock20
@dblock20 Ай бұрын
Sorry that happened to you. You will also see this behavior by some male feminists.
@people2chronically-online
@people2chronically-online 20 күн бұрын
Skill issue
@axe-tq2wn
@axe-tq2wn 19 күн бұрын
@@people2chronically-online Mate, there’s a line between dark humor and edginess
@fizzfizzbang
@fizzfizzbang 6 жыл бұрын
As a female who was or is frequently the only one present in a comic store, magic tournament, d&d campaign, board game night at a cafe, or any online gaming group...I heartily agree with all of this. I especially love how nerd boys still try to make me prove my credentials when I've literally been gaming longer than they've been alive (I'm 35). You should hear it on Overwatch voice coms when I make callouts. Everything stops and you hear "Grill? Is that a grill??"
@prettyfuldancingirl
@prettyfuldancingirl 6 жыл бұрын
I personally never saw the "Heart of gold" in Howard. He's just creepy.
@roguecodes
@roguecodes 6 жыл бұрын
To add to your list of nerdy male characters who aren't sexist- Tom Holland's Spider-Man was a really good depiction of a movie character like that
@Eilowyn
@Eilowyn 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent addition to the list! I think Jonathan was working on this before Homecoming came out, but Holland's Peter Parker is right up there with Abed and Ben Wyatt in my book.
@Supernaturlisch
@Supernaturlisch 6 жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Tom Holland's take on Peter Parker, so I'd just like to add a bit more to love about the movie!
@TheNetherlandDwarf
@TheNetherlandDwarf 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I had someone who hated it because of that one bit at the start where they're crushing on the girl and talking about her sweater.
@knogne5073
@knogne5073 Жыл бұрын
I just know that the writers thought that that Marie Curie line was throwing us women a bone, when all it essentially tells women is that the only way you can be respected by men is to be considered a man. I know I've had that feeling in my life since I was 4 years old, it's the reason why "pick me girls" exist.
@glenmurie
@glenmurie 6 жыл бұрын
As a father of girls who share my passion for video games, comics, and science fiction who felt themselves pushed away from the lunchroom 'nerd table' as the boys started getting 'creepy' (their word) this whole video filled me with rage at the toxic way women are portrayed in media. I never bothered watching more than bits and pieces of that show, and all of them were awful. Thank you for pouring that filth into your brain, Pop Culture Detective, so that we don't have to.
@bahahanope
@bahahanope 6 жыл бұрын
My best friend is an engineering major and one of 4 women in her intro to mechanical engineering lecture. First day of class, she walks in and sits down. The guy next to her says "You know this is an engineering lecture, right? Do you need help finding the right lecture hall?"... So yes, the misogyny in this show is very real and thriving. And making light of it with overdone jokes and subpar comedy is not helping anyone. TBBT has been trash since the beginning, I truly don't understand how it ever took off.
@NickonPlanetRipple
@NickonPlanetRipple 6 жыл бұрын
It told creepy guys that their bad behavior is permissible. It told them what they wanted to hear.
@Vishnuk-fe9iv
@Vishnuk-fe9iv 2 ай бұрын
How is that mysogny? That Guy was helping her. The same goes for Men.
@foxesofautumn
@foxesofautumn Ай бұрын
… he was not helping her. He was questioning why she was there, in an engineering lecture hall.
@MysticOceanDollies
@MysticOceanDollies Ай бұрын
@@Vishnuk-fe9ivhelping her by assuming she didn’t belong in that class that she signed up for?
@shreya2867
@shreya2867 24 күн бұрын
@@Vishnuk-fe9iv why are you trying so hard in every comment section Is this show paying your food tax or something?
@afragilebird6209
@afragilebird6209 6 жыл бұрын
It's so nice to hear men standing up for women
@SarahC-lb9ux
@SarahC-lb9ux 4 жыл бұрын
As a woman in STEM I feel this every day from my colleagues.
@l.pietrobon3925
@l.pietrobon3925 4 жыл бұрын
For a video that has the word "Misogyny" in the title, it has a surprisingly tame comment section.
@hannahsweens5829
@hannahsweens5829 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Mayim Bialik, she's a part of the backbone of the show. She's a neuroscientist and fact checks all of the formulas etc written on white boards in the show but her character is completely bashed all the time. The show acknowledges Sheldon turning down Amy because he "doesn't know how relationships work" but when Amy says no to Sheldon or she needs space he stalks her. Seriously what the ever loving fuck is wrong with this show.
@nobody48803
@nobody48803 17 күн бұрын
well all the characters do tell Sheldon when he is behaviour is upsetting others and they joke about how hard it is being his friend. He doesnt just do all that and get praised for it.
@cocos.9730
@cocos.9730 6 жыл бұрын
I thought I was too sensitive when I thought they are all creepy. Especially in the case of Sheldon who seems to despise women to a point I am surprised that he is in a relationship.
@juanarocha8629
@juanarocha8629 3 жыл бұрын
If you remove the laugh track, They're very awkward and unfunny
@ot1438
@ot1438 2 ай бұрын
The show is trash, but obviously removing the laugh track would totally ruin the comedic timing and make it awkward.. there are plenty of valid critiques without resorting to cheap oh it had a laugh track nonsense
@greyfox4838
@greyfox4838 Ай бұрын
​@@ot1438 I don't know about that. Like if you remove the laugh track from Friends for example, yes it's awkward because of the long pause, but it's not uncomfortable or creepy. Big Bang Theory feels like that though. Remove the laugh track and I feel like I need a shower.
@misaeldoesanimation4408
@misaeldoesanimation4408 Ай бұрын
​@ot1438 if it was trash then why is it one of the most popular American sitcom
@NapStoreVideo
@NapStoreVideo Ай бұрын
@@misaeldoesanimation4408 because most of humanity is very easy to please. a very small percentage of people are able to identify when something is harmful or low quality, probably because only around 20% of people are self aware. i enjoyed big bang theory when i was a kid, as soon as my brain started developing i realized how fucking lame it is lol
@relativ6192
@relativ6192 Ай бұрын
Idk man
@ollivergalaxy6785
@ollivergalaxy6785 6 жыл бұрын
"nerds" are just as hyper-masculine as "jocks". They actively make a point of excluding women from typically nerdy activities and women are constantly being told to "prove" that they're a "real nerd/fan" . Why can't we just let people enjoy things?
@Twinkletoes7300
@Twinkletoes7300 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad a man brought attention to this issue as I think that a woman would have been criticised for being "overly-sensitive" or a "feminazi". It's a shame that when it comes to talking gender equality, men are commonly taken a lot more seriously when voicing their opinions about it. Great video!
@NickonPlanetRipple
@NickonPlanetRipple 6 жыл бұрын
You might not see it here now that he's able to moderate comments, but there used to be loads of vicious dudebros taking over the comment sections, deeming him a "cuck" or "fag" or other bigoted language for being over-sensitive himself and daring not to fall in line with what they think a man should stand for. He is getting traction, but there was some strong resistance leading to where he is now. But maybe this was a special case, I dunno.
@Shorty_Lickens
@Shorty_Lickens 2 ай бұрын
Its a very unfunny show on top of being sexist, but if you point out either failing you're going to be attacked online, by the same type of guys they were portraying ON the show, which actually makes sense.
@Vishnuk-fe9iv
@Vishnuk-fe9iv 2 ай бұрын
Wrong. No woman is shamed for showing the issues which is sexist. People calls her feminazi when she twists it and try to paint Men bad.
@shreya2867
@shreya2867 24 күн бұрын
@@Vishnuk-fe9iv there ; you proved her point
@Vishnuk-fe9iv
@Vishnuk-fe9iv 21 күн бұрын
Just like how Men gets called mysognyst or "incel" when point the sexist tv shows against Men.
@owend9050
@owend9050 2 жыл бұрын
women on this show are ONLY there to be viewed romantically. as soon as a women arrives, whoever they are, they automatically have to be a love interest to one of the guys and I found that to be a problem. like, women aren't just objects made to be beautiful for men, they can contribute to society just as much as men can. also, when sheldon said that madam curie was an "honorary man" it was almost as like they had to consider her male to respect her. disgusting. now I'm 12 years old, and I know better than that.
@ashestodust9483
@ashestodust9483 3 жыл бұрын
They also never apologize. They state that it's racist or sexist but never apologize.
@Fusilier7
@Fusilier7 2 жыл бұрын
I have autism, and I frequently get compared to Sheldon. Unlike Sheldon, I am bad at math, but I am good at history and literature; I do not say inappropriate things to people, in fact I do not say anything at all; I may have immature behaviour, but I do not display this behaviour to anyone; Sheldon is aloof to his own actions and words, but I am very aware of how actions and words affect people, and Sheldon does not appear to have sensory overload, which happens to me all the time. But people still believe Sheldon is a good example of how neurodivergents are, so I just want to say, if you think Big Bang Theory can teach you about the basics of neurodivergent people, turn off the TV and try meeting real us as people.
@dolphincrescent54
@dolphincrescent54 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!!! I also have autism can definitely relate to you! I hate the stereotype that autistics are socially awkward know-it-all savants at math and science. I'm terrible at math and science but I'm good at literature and history. I'm not socially awkward, I just don't say anything and prefer to be by myself. Sheldon is garbage representation for neurodivergent people, and I'm glad we can both see that.
@HasufelyArod
@HasufelyArod Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, watching TV os far easier than meeting neurodivergent people
@yilvoxe4017
@yilvoxe4017 6 жыл бұрын
This is so wonderful. There's no way a woman doing this video wouldn't have been dismissed for being a "feminazi" or told to "shut up". It almost makes me cry that there really are men out there who care enough to say these things. I've been a girl in the geek world since I was very little and I've seen all of this. Casual misogyny cannot be allowed to stand and we need men like you to say it. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
@the21stturtle
@the21stturtle 6 жыл бұрын
As an autistic woman, Sheldon's behaviour bothers me the most; you can't use social disabilities as an excuse to say bigoted things
@morganward2361
@morganward2361 5 жыл бұрын
The most eye opening part of this video for me was your analysis of Leonard. I realized that I know so many Leonards. So many people who won’t challenge the misogyny I experience in life. So many “nice guys”. What’s even worse is realizing that *I* can be a Leonard. It’s so easy to roll my eyes and to just play off jokes as just that. It can be exhausting. I guess I just have to do better. Call out what I see and challenge what I experience.
@wedwhb9899
@wedwhb9899 Ай бұрын
👍
@__-bb9yz
@__-bb9yz Ай бұрын
А почему я должен бросать вызов мизогинии? Что мне это даст?
@minnie6598
@minnie6598 6 жыл бұрын
I used to love TBBT. But all of this is correct. And I can’t believe I had felt sorry for Howard when Penny called him out for being ’pathetic and creepy’. And then SHE apologised?!! The whole show is yucky...
@elfwineeomerson
@elfwineeomerson 6 жыл бұрын
when a nerdy guy gets rejected they always think its because theyre nerdy but most of the time it's because they're like these guys^^^ and don't think sexism is that bad
@TheDude90100
@TheDude90100 3 жыл бұрын
I actually threw up in my mouth when he called Marie Curie an "honorary man". What a fascinating insight into the vile mind of Chuck Lorre, who basically does this stuff in all of his shows.
@Pippis78
@Pippis78 4 жыл бұрын
Even without the sexism the show's humour is constantly really mean. They just say mean oneliners to each other and that's the whole show. Even the geek culture references are really superficial.
@flaviademarcos
@flaviademarcos 5 жыл бұрын
It's so nice that a man is doing a video like this, but also sad it's the only way most people would validate the criticism
@addangel
@addangel 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm so tired of the "nice guy" stereotype, endlessly complaining about being friend zoned as though women owed them something in return for not being assholes.
@latentspacex
@latentspacex 6 жыл бұрын
i always felt strangely repelled by this tv show's humour, and you made me realise what I couldn't
@ot1438
@ot1438 2 ай бұрын
You should try thinking about things
@minervajeanlupin8755
@minervajeanlupin8755 6 жыл бұрын
This is disgusting, I can't believe I never noticed this before
@theycallmemagic
@theycallmemagic 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ the "honorary man/penis made of science" is the most objectively sexist and offensive joke ive heard in awhile
@genneth4986
@genneth4986 6 жыл бұрын
God i hate that laugh track
@9_in_the_afternoon
@9_in_the_afternoon 6 жыл бұрын
Genneth It's a live audience, not a track. Still annoying though.
@KrazyKain
@KrazyKain 6 жыл бұрын
really goes to show how our culture feeds the "nice guy" syndrome so many guys have where they feel a woman owes them a relationship after they've been friends for so long. You can't be a 'Chad' if you're a nerd right?
@pineappleagent1
@pineappleagent1 6 жыл бұрын
I got so uncomfortable while watching 16 Candles for the first time. My mom had talked me into watching it with her and she only realized how creepy it was when I pointed it out.
@harrypotterfantng
@harrypotterfantng 6 жыл бұрын
YES! You hit the nail right on the head with this video. Another thing about BBT that bothers me and wasn't really touched on in this video is its incorrect assumption that all women are uninterested in "nerd stuff." Whenever one of the girls walks into a comic store it's like the men in there have never seen a woman before in their lives. Whenever the guys talk about Star Trek, Doctor Who, Star Wars or something similar the girls are always completely disinterested and dismissive. It's fine to have a couple female characters be uninterested in nerdy things, but to present every woman in the world as being clueless to, say, the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars is absurd and ridiculous.
@letsHugElefanten
@letsHugElefanten 6 жыл бұрын
I always hated that Penny ended up apologising to Howard after she called him out on his behaviour, I don't watch TBBT anymore because I don't really like the characters however I never thought about the sexism in the show that much, this really was an eye-opener, thank you!
@fishbonesinc
@fishbonesinc 6 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for you. Based on the clips you used, it seems like you actually had to sit through multiple seasons of this show. I hope you made it out okay. Get well soon.
@PopCultureDetective
@PopCultureDetective 6 жыл бұрын
I watched all 230 episodes....twice. It was not fun.
@miniskrrt1506
@miniskrrt1506 6 жыл бұрын
Its funny cause in the Pilot episode pitching the show it actually had a girl geek in place of Rajh and Howard, which means they actively replaced her
@lialia2268
@lialia2268 2 жыл бұрын
I typed in “Big Bang theory cringe” looking to laugh at the bad jokes but this was just… so much worse. As a woman, I’m kind of embarrassed that I didn’t notice the harassment and assault in these shows that star “nerds”. This was very awakening
@ToyKnives
@ToyKnives 6 жыл бұрын
In the end video, Jonathan looks like he had a mental breakdown after watching hours of BBT
@Eilowyn
@Eilowyn 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't blame him if he did. Thank you, good sir, for watching all that crap so we don't have to.
@Madallen2002
@Madallen2002 2 ай бұрын
I love that show.
@adamshay3767
@adamshay3767 6 жыл бұрын
You could also add Jake Peralta from B99 to the list. He's not as nerdy as the males from BBT, and he has stuffed up, but the main difference is that B99 calls attention to it, and doesn't let him get away with his mistakes. Jake learns, and is actually a nerdy guy who's super nice, and pretty much the ideal. He calls out people for their bigotry and apologises when he is called out himself.
@updown8048
@updown8048 6 жыл бұрын
I literally cannot watch big bang theory because it reminds me so much of my old roommates boyfriend and his friends/roommates. They were so rude, dismissive and downright disrespectful. I remember we all watched a movie and I didn't think it was particularly funny and they all went off on how low my IQ was because I read Twilight when I was 14 and all I actually paid attention to was how nice my eyeliner looked and they constantly compared themselves to Big Bang Theory. They treated my other roommate like shit too, constantly making allusions to her intellect and her being a blonde. They only took my roommate, his gf (who mostly nerded out for HIS benefit) and our other roommate who placated them by essentially asking them to mansplain everything, seriously. It was like every time I opened my mouth they were hell-bent on proving me wrong or why I wasn't as correct as I thought I was. Anytime I brought up something remotely dealing with clothes, cosmetics, or vanity I was immediately labelled VAPID...needless to say, I didn't live with those roommates too much longer...
@sara5angle
@sara5angle Жыл бұрын
As a woman I never even noticed this which is perhaps worse than noticing it. I’ve become so accustomed to hearing these kinds of things in the real world that I’ve become blind to it.
@TheSummelBaerli
@TheSummelBaerli 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for including Ben and Abed as counter examples to how nerds can be written without those awful underlying tones of misogyny! Ben was so supportive of Leslie and their relationship was truly beautiful. And Abed is a bit like Sheldon in the way that they seem to have some sort of autism. But with Abed it is never mean spirited and especially his relationship with Annie was just wonderfully depicted. And when he went too far, he was always called out on his behaviour. Also both Parks&Rec and Community were smart, but also laugh-out-loud comedies which can't be said about TBBT. Thank you so much for this essay!
@Carols989
@Carols989 6 жыл бұрын
as a person who is majoring in a "nerdy" field i can assure you their sexism is very, very real and normalized. things are changing (half of the class is made of very open minded and chill people) but the other half is... well, let's just say our vacations just ended and we already have a racism scandal
@nishattasnim6337
@nishattasnim6337 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you all remember the time when penny had to apologise to howard because she protested against Howard's misbehaviour towards her. I really didn't understand what was the writer eating before writing this script. Lol. Total hypocrisy.
@Sara-mg3cg
@Sara-mg3cg 5 жыл бұрын
The series is basically r/iamverysmart and r/niceguys combined
@algi1
@algi1 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who, as a kid, was good with computers, has been playing RPGs and video games, I always hated how geeks are depicted in TV and movies. Why can't they just behave normally? Why does expertise or being part of a fandom, or even social awkwardness has to mean they can't behave in a socially accepted way? Seriously, even being socially awkward doesn't mean that a person has to behave in scandallous manner. It mostly just means less social interactions initiated, nothing dramatic.
@hannahsweens5829
@hannahsweens5829 6 жыл бұрын
"hey guys, I'm a sexist and pretty racist too but I'm geeky and nerdy and don't know how to socialize so who cares lol" is basically the entire fucking show
@Halberd45
@Halberd45 6 жыл бұрын
As a fangirl and nerd it is always disappointing to watch shows where I am automatically othered or treated as fictional.
@loonachan
@loonachan 6 жыл бұрын
I would never be able to watch enough of the Big Bang Theory to put together a video like this.
@stiches6749
@stiches6749 6 жыл бұрын
I work at a comic book store. I don't get any of the blatant sexism, or weird looks. I get more "fake gamer" comments. I am female, I can't also be a nerd... unless I am an UBER NERD who knows ALL the things!
@Cathar5i5
@Cathar5i5 6 жыл бұрын
That's the worst part of nerdy guys turned bullies, they'll always feel like they're the ones being attacked
@divyaa4459
@divyaa4459 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they made penny apologize was disgusting.
@dblock20
@dblock20 Ай бұрын
I liked the show overall all but that didn't sit well with me either. If howard was just doing pick up lines it would be more tolerant, but all the other stuff went too far at times
@boudoirmusic
@boudoirmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Summed up everything I hate about this show. I love that you show alternative ways to write this character at the end. We do need to retire these tropes.
@deseretgear9425
@deseretgear9425 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the analysis on how lampshading doesn't actually fix the problem. Also this kind of trope is why I hate characters like mineta from bnha
@deeptootie
@deeptootie 6 жыл бұрын
it’s interesting to me how mayim bialik is an advocate for feminism and a very intelligent woman but still supports and works for a show that’s so blatantly misogynistic
@tarantulagirl
@tarantulagirl 5 ай бұрын
In reality Leonard gave no fucks about Penny, he held her to ransom and made her apologise to Howard because he wanted to win a Robot wars competition. Penny was a prop for his ego, the fact he sent a bikini picture to his old school club friends, shows he viewed her as an object.
@ak0372
@ak0372 6 жыл бұрын
Fan girls of all things geeky have learned to mask their fandom because of the way male geeks behave towards them. This is spot on.
@NotAnotherKuromi
@NotAnotherKuromi 6 жыл бұрын
I was never confused as to how Raj & Howard didn't manage to get girlfriends but how the heck they managed to get any girl to like them considering their behaviour, attitudes & apparent unwillingness to change.
@Elliebellisima
@Elliebellisima 6 жыл бұрын
Receipts everywhere.
@toomuchinformation
@toomuchinformation 3 жыл бұрын
I never watched the show. I caught small snippets while remote surfing, but I did gauge the racism towards the Indian guy.
@leahandtabi1
@leahandtabi1 6 жыл бұрын
never liked BBT in the first place and that "penis made of science" comment really solidified it for me
@ene4731
@ene4731 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is besides the point but now I realize why I love Ben Wyatt so much. He manages to be a complete dork with his quirks (like his affinity for calzones) WITHOUT being a creep. He respected Leslie from the moment they began to form a friendship, even poking fun at men who absolutely require their fiances to take their soon-to-be husbands name on the night of his and Leslie's wedding. He's my all time favorite character from anything I've ever seen and I wish more nerdy guy characters could be like him.
@tubes17
@tubes17 6 жыл бұрын
KZbin would not leave me the fuck alone until I watched this.
@sholem_bond
@sholem_bond 4 жыл бұрын
17:40 "Well, despite your... 'quirks,' you three are very accomplished in your respective fields." Hey look, it's the entire reason the Me Too movement exists, distilled down into one supporting character's line on an asinine TV show, which definitely will not age well.
@Tianyulong
@Tianyulong 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I'd heard "Revenge Of The Nerds" was bad, but I didn't realise it was that bad. Ewww
@Emily-ce7hd
@Emily-ce7hd 6 жыл бұрын
I hadn't really watched BBT much before, but I find it interesting that the actress who plays Amy is a very outspoken feminist, speaking about how men should refrain from referring to women as "girls" for example, yet hasn't spoken out about the show.
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 6 жыл бұрын
Is "dogwhistle comedy" a thing?
@comiclover99
@comiclover99 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great term for this!
@donglyknog
@donglyknog 6 жыл бұрын
The amount of different examples given in just this one video is disgusting.
@NathanielJordan85
@NathanielJordan85 6 жыл бұрын
This well articulates a lot of what makes me uncomfortable with and contemptuous towards this show.
@fdj4601
@fdj4601 6 жыл бұрын
DRAG👏THEM👏
@pombie6377
@pombie6377 6 жыл бұрын
you always find the best ways to explain things i know are sexist but can never put my finger on
@paapersen
@paapersen 2 жыл бұрын
As a younger kid, growing up I never understood why people hated the show. I enjoyed the irony but looking back I understand and disappointed about a show I grew up loving.
@aiberlane3390
@aiberlane3390 6 жыл бұрын
Another nerd portrayed respectfully? Brick Heck on The Middle. I'm a few seasons behind, but unless things have changed, he's still a good guy who just struggles in social situations.
@yoXneo
@yoXneo 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Completely agree! I'm into geeky stuff, but I've always wondered why so many guys, who want women to like them, start calling girls "fake" for liking what they're into. I never understood it, why would you hate someone for liking the same thing you're into, especially if you're attracted to them?! Why not welcome it and have a good time? That's totally backwards....great video! 🤓
@gweng3858
@gweng3858 6 жыл бұрын
One of my old friends was a nerdy guy, and he tried to date me multiple times. At one point he asked me for nudes while I had a boyfriend then tried to rape me. But when I was angry at him and stopped being friends with him everyone was mad at me cause he didn't know what he was doing. Now whenever any guy tries to touch me in any way I flinch because of him. But everyone said I should have just let him cause he doesn't get much
@juliabythebeatles
@juliabythebeatles Жыл бұрын
There’s so many ‘Leonard’s’ in comedy shows. I didn’t see it before but there’s a lot of male (lead) characters that just straight up bother women into liking them. These ‘nice guys’ also never get put into their place or learn anything from their actions and the women are always seen as the ones being stubborn and complaining. Leonard reminds me of other characters like Ross Geller (Friends) and Ted Mosby (HIMYM)
@Kat-tq6tm
@Kat-tq6tm 3 жыл бұрын
I always found howard so gross but the others aren't too much better. I mean leonard I did like because he was the best one out of the group but he would be better off with a different group of friends who can make his confidence grow enough so he feels he can say "no this is wrong" and actually have his friends listen to his advice.
@JonAddisonFilms
@JonAddisonFilms 6 жыл бұрын
This is so fucking on point.
@remote7131
@remote7131 2 жыл бұрын
As a casual viewer, the jokes were funny... But that's exactly the problem, how insidious the offhand misogyny is. Thanks for showing the clips, they drove the point home.
@duden9247
@duden9247 5 жыл бұрын
wait, the characters in this show are supposed to be likeable?
@EOh-ew2qf
@EOh-ew2qf Жыл бұрын
the marie curie line was the reason I stopped watching that show. It's also sad that people(even women) only listen when men talk about misogyny.
@GustavoSerrate
@GustavoSerrate 6 жыл бұрын
I think most man think that they need to be sexist to be called a real men. It's like people think that sexism is the most masculine atitude. It's almost something they to do impress, when they need to show their manliness. The thing is: man need to understand that FIRST: sexism is outraegeous to woman. SECOND: sexism is ridiculous. THREE: they don't have to be sexist to prove something to themselves or to other people.
@cvgurau
@cvgurau 6 жыл бұрын
"most of the jokes in the bbt, such as they are..." ohhh snap
@XPursuitOfEpicnessX
@XPursuitOfEpicnessX 6 жыл бұрын
I mean wasn't this writer also the writer of Two and a Half Men? That was pretty damn sexist too, not surprised.
@Nopperabou
@Nopperabou Жыл бұрын
Some of Sheldon's lines could be spoken by Patrick Bateman
@AGothNamedWednessday
@AGothNamedWednessday 6 жыл бұрын
I am very disappointed in myself for not seeing this trope earlier, and excusing real life experiences that are like this in the past. I really wish this was talked about more.
@cristinar9447
@cristinar9447 6 жыл бұрын
"On television men's feelings and bruised egos are nearly always decipted as more important than women's comfort or women's safety" -YES, thank you. I'll admit that I've been a big TBBT fan because even though there are many jokes that annoy me (every single storyline regarding Howard's unwillingness to do house chores or the human resources lady to name a few) others really make me laugh. But I'm sure that if I were in a position where I had to face that kind of behaviour in real life I wouldn't find this show funny at all. You've really made me rethink what should be condemned in movies and TV and now I'm going to stop watching. Also, this video had me thinking of that quote in The Social Network "you are going to go through life thinking girls don't like you cause you're a nerd. And I want you to know from the bottom of my heart, that that won't be true. It'll be because, you're an asshole."
@soupforfree
@soupforfree 3 жыл бұрын
revenge of the nerds and sixteen candles genuinely make me so uncomfortable. i cant get through any clips those movies without gagging
@amitverma-sr2ik
@amitverma-sr2ik 3 жыл бұрын
Wait we were supposed to feel bad for Howard in the Howard/penny thing?
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